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Speaker 3: And B ladies and gentlemen. My name is Tank Valentine
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Speaker 4: R and B.
Speaker 1: Come on, talk to him, talk to him.
Speaker 4: I'm sick of your shiit.
Speaker 1: What the hell is going on?
Speaker 2: I want to hear your vocal if they got them,
Speaker 2: I want to hear your train.
Speaker 4: Raw fleck footed, turn the machines.
Speaker 1: Off, Darphin though Daulphin.
Speaker 3: Vocal.
Speaker 1: They know who are today?
Speaker 5: They know yeah, yeah, because I got the same clothes twice.
Speaker 5: They I don't do that, only do that when we
Speaker 5: gotta double up.
Speaker 3: Have not seen a combination of beauty and gift and
Speaker 3: intellect ever.
Speaker 4: Standing on that. She's in the building.
Speaker 3: My my mind, Chante, it's in the building, damn it, Shante.
Speaker 3: You can fucking sing and no fucking sing, no question,
Speaker 3: no questions.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get into the history of it. But we
Speaker 3: we were on the show. I think this was the
Speaker 3: b T war like to look at her like tumble
Speaker 3: as well. But you you're an athlete too. I didn't
Speaker 3: know you had that. You put that one hand down
Speaker 3: and it's still carrying them and you proceed what was
Speaker 3: this twenty twenty two? You proceeded to show us the
Speaker 3: difference man.
Speaker 1: That remember is like its yesterday.
Speaker 3: I was like, you hear this and it was like
Speaker 3: the room was even even the room was confused, like
Speaker 3: what the fuck is going on right now? Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: what's going on right now.
Speaker 4: And it was like, let's do it again.
Speaker 6: Because I fell down and listen.
Speaker 1: Cool, cool, no problem, no problem.
Speaker 4: Oh you want it again.
Speaker 1: You do this all day.
Speaker 4: I can do this all all night because this is
Speaker 4: what I do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I just I You're You're you are,
Speaker 3: you are what you are, You're you're a really you're gifted,
Speaker 3: of course by immeasurably right. But the work that you
Speaker 3: have put into your gift speaks volumes because every time
Speaker 3: you open your mouth, it is like see and I listen,
Speaker 3: and I've known you for such a long time, you're
Speaker 3: like you're like you're like the coolest, nicest person. And
Speaker 3: maybe Stephen feels differently, maybe you show him another side,
Speaker 3: but maybe you can tell us about the stories. Man,
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, bro, he was in the crowd other night.
Speaker 3: But it's like that gift, that beauty, that everything that
Speaker 3: comes along with you for you to have always been
Speaker 3: as gracious and welcoming and awesome of a person that
Speaker 3: you are every time that I've come in contact with
Speaker 3: you for the last fifteen, twenty years, whatever, it's just incredible,
Speaker 3: just incredible. Like I come from a place where, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, if you got all the tools
Speaker 3: as a woman, oh you stuck all the way up?
Speaker 4: What you know?
Speaker 3: You're hey girl, hey whatever, you're like.
Speaker 4: I come I come from.
Speaker 3: That, no super turned up and you've just with with
Speaker 3: everything that you have, but all the gifts God has
Speaker 3: given you, you've never been that and that's I think
Speaker 3: that's that's the other layer that's even more awesome about you.
Speaker 4: So I just I just wanted to.
Speaker 3: Make sure we throw those flowers at you at the
Speaker 3: top of the pod so people can understand who and what.
Speaker 4: Is sitting in the.
Speaker 3: Hot seat now high school?
Speaker 4: Where is this?
Speaker 3: Like, it's kind of I feel like you've been singing
Speaker 3: since you were like one and a half.
Speaker 4: That's just my guess.
Speaker 3: If I had to guess, I would say she was
Speaker 3: holding harmonies it too.
Speaker 6: Well. I love to see First of all, thank you
Speaker 6: for having me here.
Speaker 1: Course course you're telling people I used to be chasing
Speaker 1: you down.
Speaker 5: I wondering I'm just offing to a boulevard I'm like, what's.
Speaker 6: Up, and we were like, yes, yes, so thank you
Speaker 6: for having me here. I appreciate that singing. I love music,
Speaker 6: So it's always been something that I played. It was
Speaker 6: on a little phonograph, it was on the little album
Speaker 6: thing my godmother got me, uh to play records on
Speaker 6: and I play them and sing and dance. And what
Speaker 6: is not commonly known is that my family was all music.
Speaker 6: My mother saying. My father's a pianist, he's still living.
Speaker 6: My mother's passed on. My sister is the most talented
Speaker 6: out of all of us. She sings and plays guitar,
Speaker 6: she plays the piano, she can play the drums, She writes,
Speaker 6: she draws, she does everything. She told her sister kind.
Speaker 1: Of like that.
Speaker 6: It was a lot, and that's what it was when
Speaker 6: I was growing up. My brothers was a drummer. He
Speaker 6: passed on as well, but he's played with DJ Rogers
Speaker 6: and the guys from Crouches, all the Crotches anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 6: he was yeah, yeah, And so I was the baby
Speaker 6: of the family, and so the it was just you know,
Speaker 6: shut up, just shut up, chante because I was always
Speaker 6: running with the camera and running. I want to play.
Speaker 6: I want to, I'll sing it. They're like, baby, just
Speaker 6: bet So. My mother got me a tape recorder when
Speaker 6: I was about seven. She was like, this is so
Speaker 6: you can hear how bad you sound, baby wow. And
Speaker 6: it's okay because I never took offense to any of it.
Speaker 6: They were like shout up. I was like, I'll just
Speaker 6: go to my room. You got to I don't, I
Speaker 6: don't care. And so I went, and there's tapes of
Speaker 6: me actually on one of my albums. I have this
Speaker 6: thing where I'm talking in the middle. I shot he's
Speaker 6: got a man whatever album that is smums Mine and
Speaker 6: you've seen said Chantette seven. It was literally me going
Speaker 6: so you were the only thing I could talk to
Speaker 6: was you, And so I'm just talking into my papercorder.
Speaker 3: And I still had that tape.
Speaker 6: I still yeah wow. But I wasn't the singer. I
Speaker 6: was in the choir. At twelve, they let me be
Speaker 6: in the choir, but I was just in the choir.
Speaker 6: I wasn't the soloist. My sister was the one who
Speaker 6: would sing and slay them. My mom sang before my
Speaker 6: dad preached, and she'd slay it. And it was.
Speaker 3: Just like, yeah, I didn't know we really followed that
Speaker 3: saying all these years, I didn't know that like we
Speaker 3: followed that same.
Speaker 6: Either.
Speaker 4: I couldn't play my cousin's.
Speaker 3: Drum, get off that piano drill like and my cousin Keisha,
Speaker 3: my first cousin, she was the soloist.
Speaker 4: She was the one that got all the solos.
Speaker 3: My mama sang, my grandmama sang all my big cousin,
Speaker 3: she has all of them, was saying becausein father, they
Speaker 3: was the singers, and I was the kid trying to
Speaker 3: just get a little She's get a little peace, like
Speaker 3: you could just get here.
Speaker 4: I'd sneaking to the what they was saying.
Speaker 3: And as you said that that, like here, how bad
Speaker 3: you sound? I had a solo one time. I had
Speaker 3: fought for this solo. My grandmother fought for this solo
Speaker 3: for me, and and I sang this solo, Jesus are
Speaker 3: the center of my joy in front of the whole
Speaker 3: state Congress, which my grandmother was the diana, and I'm
Speaker 3: singing my lead, and the two other older guys singing
Speaker 3: lead with me, and and toward toward the middle of
Speaker 3: the song, I just felt like I was getting boxed
Speaker 3: out from the microphone. You know, ain't know what that was.
Speaker 3: I was like, well, let me just sing to their
Speaker 3: shoulders and maybe they'll get through. And after that, you know,
Speaker 3: were walking to the car with my anti Betty got
Speaker 3: arrest her soul. She was the one who was teaching
Speaker 3: us how to sing Junior Crawle. I was like, anti, baby,
Speaker 3: I'll sound. She said, you was off, Baby was real.
Speaker 6: Honest, okay.
Speaker 4: Didn't deter me when okay, all right, and I went
Speaker 4: back and I kept doing.
Speaker 3: Until I figured it out. Same thing, the process, the process, it's.
Speaker 6: The love for the music. For me, it's not about
Speaker 6: I didn't think I was going to become a singer.
Speaker 6: Well that wasn't even if it was going to be
Speaker 6: a ballerina. And then I thought I was going to
Speaker 6: be a gymnast, and then I thought, oh, I'll just draw.
Speaker 6: I didn't know. I didn't think singing was an option
Speaker 6: at that point. And where you were you from the
Speaker 6: baby the family in.
Speaker 5: San Francisco, Come on, yeah, come on, okay, so I
Speaker 5: see it.
Speaker 4: I see man, you know.
Speaker 1: Singers like you know, we got right. That's good stuff.
Speaker 6: I love it. And that was the thing that they
Speaker 6: didn't deter me from loving the music. I could only
Speaker 6: listen to gospel music as a kid because my dad
Speaker 6: and mom were like not having it. And then when
Speaker 6: my brother turned eighteen, he had a drum set already
Speaker 6: in the garage, but when he turned eighteen he could
Speaker 6: play other music. So we just started going into the
Speaker 6: garage and I can play the drums, which I haven't
Speaker 6: done a lot of, but because he said, don't touch
Speaker 6: them neither time you left home out So but that
Speaker 6: was just where the love came from. And then hearing
Speaker 6: Mini Ripperton eventually realizing other people did the thing I
Speaker 6: thought was a broken part of my voice. I thought
Speaker 6: it was broken me because Tremaine couldn't sing you know
Speaker 6: that that, you know, the real and I would try
Speaker 6: to do that with Walter and her and Andree Crouch
Speaker 6: and all those people. I love singing with singers, and
Speaker 6: I couldn't do that full voice. And I didn't have
Speaker 6: anybody to ask because they weren't gonna tell me how
Speaker 6: to do it, because they were like, you just be caiet.
Speaker 6: And one of my aunties used to say, good thing,
Speaker 6: you cute because the singing were singing I words now
Speaker 6: though I wait, yeah, But my point was what oh,
Speaker 6: I would go over the note like if they do
Speaker 6: that and they went at full voice, I would just
Speaker 6: up on top of that because that was all I knew,
Speaker 6: and so I thought that was broken, so I would
Speaker 6: I didn't even let anybody know I could do that
Speaker 6: because I didn't think it was something to be proud of.
Speaker 6: It was just what I did to get through the
Speaker 6: song with them.
Speaker 4: What.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know that, so wid discovery. Yeah, just
Speaker 5: to do that, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: I didn't know. So yeah, that was it.
Speaker 1: That's where happened. So that was Anne.
Speaker 3: And when do you get a chance at least to
Speaker 3: where the film is like, all right, go ahead saying
Speaker 3: something me, let me hear what you're doing to me.
Speaker 6: I sang background with my sister and my mom, like
Speaker 6: as we sang before my dad would preach, we would
Speaker 6: do that. I was the alto, but alone. A lady
Speaker 6: asked me to be Dorothy in a stage production college production,
Speaker 6: and I was Dorothy and she asked me to do it,
Speaker 6: and I was like, everybody always mixed me and my
Speaker 6: sister up, it's Laton. I'm chante you Laton. She was like, no, no,
Speaker 6: I know who I'm asking. I was like you want
Speaker 6: me to do. I never scared. I was like, yeah, okay, sure,
Speaker 6: So I said yes to being Dorothy and we learned
Speaker 6: all the lines and singing in my mother played the
Speaker 6: what is Auntie Auntie m? She played auntiem in the beginning,
Speaker 6: and my sister was part of the Yellow Brick Road.
Speaker 6: And so I'm doing rehearsals and We're all sitting on
Speaker 6: the floor in this college whatever replace. We were just
Speaker 6: sitting on the floor and the guy's playing the piano
Speaker 6: and I'm singing with him, and my sister and my
Speaker 6: mother looking me in and it started looking at each
Speaker 6: other and I was like, what's what I'm singing? Like
Speaker 6: home or whatever the B line. I don't even remember
Speaker 6: what the song it was. And they were like, when
Speaker 6: did you learn how to sing? I was like, I
Speaker 6: can sing? I was sixteen. I was like, I can
Speaker 6: do it. I can okay. So that was the moment
Speaker 6: I realized that they thought I could sing. And then
Speaker 6: performing the end the Home at the end is when
Speaker 6: I got bitten with the bug, the performance bug, and
Speaker 6: they clapped. I was like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna deal
Speaker 6: with that.
Speaker 3: I can do it like this And you had just
Speaker 3: been in your shed just working on it.
Speaker 6: Well, I didn't know I was working on it.
Speaker 4: You know, you didn't know you were working on it.
Speaker 3: But there's there's maybe this unconscious thing where you know,
Speaker 3: you're just waiting for this approval. Like I wanted Auntie
Speaker 3: Betty to say I could I could finally sing so bad,
Speaker 3: like you know what I mean? Like I loved it,
Speaker 3: so that's why I was doing it. But at the
Speaker 3: same time we're looking for that. Auntie Betty was the
Speaker 3: barn Right and she.
Speaker 1: And your mother and your your for you.
Speaker 6: I mean, I thought it was the approval of that
Speaker 6: I can carry a note. It still wasn't the I'm
Speaker 6: going to do this for a living.
Speaker 4: Well no, not even with it, just love it.
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, I'm on good yeah, all right,
Speaker 6: all right, two thumbs up.
Speaker 3: I didn't know did you did you? Did you kill it?
Speaker 6: You know what? There was a tape of it a
Speaker 6: long time ago, and I don't know if I did
Speaker 6: or didn't. I think I did good enough?
Speaker 3: Yeah, good enough?
Speaker 6: They did. They clapped, and it was it was the
Speaker 6: moment I thought this could be something I could do
Speaker 6: for a living. But I thought, you know, one song
Speaker 6: don't make an.
Speaker 3: Artist, right, because you also like, it's not one of
Speaker 3: the million outletsible.
Speaker 6: It was not even in my realm, you know, I
Speaker 6: didn't even think yeah like that.
Speaker 5: The other part about that too, and it may be
Speaker 5: a little different for you tank where most people don't
Speaker 5: realize how small San Francisco is and the small community
Speaker 5: of black people. So we like, we don't even have athletes,
Speaker 5: especially when we were coming up that made the NFL
Speaker 5: or the NBA or the major like, we don't We
Speaker 5: definitely don't know singers.
Speaker 1: We don't have no artists really.
Speaker 6: I mean we have a couple, we have gospel artists, yes, but.
Speaker 5: We don't have we don't have Marvin gay If you're
Speaker 5: from DC or the Maryland area, you're like Marvin.
Speaker 1: Gaye was, you know, he used to be right over
Speaker 1: here doing that.
Speaker 5: So it almost seemed and I'll just give my own experience,
Speaker 5: it almost seemed impossible when my father would be talking
Speaker 5: to us about what we were going to be in
Speaker 5: music and how we were going to have careers in
Speaker 5: music and were like, I'm probably gonna end up selling.
Speaker 6: I didn't make that.
Speaker 5: I'm difference when you when you do to use and
Speaker 5: take out different type of church. So, but did you
Speaker 5: see that for yourself at all, Like you're like, I'm
Speaker 5: going to make this a career for myself, like once
Speaker 5: you started to do it while you're in San Francisco.
Speaker 6: No, I didn't. I didn't. I I I knew I
Speaker 6: felt special. I don't think I thought turn it into
Speaker 6: this or that. I love to dance and perform, and
Speaker 6: you know, whether anybody was paying attention or not, it
Speaker 6: was what my joy was. I acted songs out and
Speaker 6: the songs said knocked me down to the ground. I'll
Speaker 6: be on the floor and then I like you picked
Speaker 6: me up, oh you know, and just whatever I was
Speaker 6: singing and doing the song.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So did you did you have to leave? Leave what
Speaker 1: san Francisco?
Speaker 6: Well, we moved to San Diego. We moved to San
Speaker 6: Diego when I was twelve, so that was already a change.
Speaker 6: So San Diego was when I joined the choir and
Speaker 6: middle school, and I don't know, I don't know when
Speaker 6: it changed so much. Modeling Key Key Shepherd and her
Speaker 6: mother Kekey and von Gretchen was a Miss Black America.
Speaker 6: They I don't remember. Oh, I know. I was in
Speaker 6: a beauty pageant called MS Bronze and I was fourteen.
Speaker 6: I was fourteen and I run one first runner up
Speaker 6: and miss Bronze and that's what made me meet Kiki
Speaker 6: and Vaughn and they just loved on me. They really
Speaker 6: made me feel like family and they said how special
Speaker 6: I was. And I started modeling as soon as the
Speaker 6: pageant was over. I was in clubs and modeling with
Speaker 6: them and doing all that. I don't know, it was
Speaker 6: just interesting how that just unfolded into just walking and
Speaker 6: performing and clothes and you know, they were like, keep
Speaker 6: your head up and just there were certain things that
Speaker 6: just came with being around them. Just crazy. I forgot
Speaker 6: about them, but yeah, they put me in the mindset
Speaker 6: of being in front of a crowd, right, more so
Speaker 6: than just you know, being a goofy kid somewhere.
Speaker 1: But are you singing it still?
Speaker 4: At the now?
Speaker 6: I'm modeling at this point, I mean in my room, right.
Speaker 1: But you're fully focused on.
Speaker 6: I'm in high school and I'm just, yeah, not really
Speaker 6: thinking of what could be. By seventeen eighteen, I started
Speaker 6: thinking about, maybe it's what I can do because modeling
Speaker 6: is out. I'm only five four, so you know, petite
Speaker 6: modeling did not take off like I thought it would.
Speaker 6: And so my mother was always thinking out of the box.
Speaker 6: So she was like, what do you want to do?
Speaker 6: Whatever that is, let's work on that. So modeling was
Speaker 6: it for a long time, just going out on catacauls
Speaker 6: and trying to make it. I don't know. She always
Speaker 6: made me think of any moment could be the moment
Speaker 6: for whatever it is. When I would go to the
Speaker 6: grocery store, I'd be full on made up, and anywhere
Speaker 6: I go it was just makeup and hair and shoes, nails,
Speaker 6: and it was just this thing. My mother always was
Speaker 6: always about presenting myself a particular way, and it's good.
Speaker 6: It was too much, but it was good to at
Speaker 6: least have the bar. And then once I realized you
Speaker 6: didn't have to work that hard at being pretty, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. It's not like you have to
Speaker 6: have on a bunch of makeup. Sometimes natural is good.
Speaker 6: My mother was always about just extra stuff, and I
Speaker 6: call it. She was so guardy. She always had a
Speaker 6: bunch of bracelets, earrings and lips. She was doing a lot,
Speaker 6: and I think that makes me not want to do
Speaker 6: it as much. And her always feeding me and loving
Speaker 6: me so and pumping up and all of that. I
Speaker 6: was like, okay, okay, because if I'm not on stage,
Speaker 6: I don't really really I don't need all attention. I
Speaker 6: don't need it. And I think there is something in
Speaker 6: people who are performers that are that is there's a
Speaker 6: there's a monster that gets fed on stage, and that
Speaker 6: what they want to feed that monster all the time.
Speaker 6: And I'm just like, can we go home? And I'm
Speaker 6: being a bed can I'll watch it on TV? But
Speaker 6: I don't know's some and maybe that's from not being
Speaker 6: the center of attention as a kid, or when my
Speaker 6: mother did pay attention, it was a whole and it
Speaker 6: was like, oh Chante and Chantey is Chante was like yes, Mama,
Speaker 6: over here is a Laton and here's Kilvin and here's
Speaker 6: the other people. I just I don't know. So I
Speaker 6: kind of have a thing that is there when I sing,
Speaker 6: which is what I try to make it about when
Speaker 6: I'm in concert is my voice. And I don't know,
Speaker 6: I have a thing where I gotta like let myself
Speaker 6: go and be able to jump off of the cliff
Speaker 6: a little bit more often sometimes. So yeah, I don't
Speaker 6: even know if I answered your question, But I'm back, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: For the journey.
Speaker 5: We want people to understand how people get to the
Speaker 5: success and the process and the other things, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. Most people probably don't know that you
Speaker 5: were a model at fourteen. They don't know that you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So it's like for us, that's
Speaker 5: that's a big part of our show. So we would
Speaker 5: we love those type of answers.
Speaker 4: We would have thought you were winning every talent show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we thought you were singing in high school.
Speaker 6: I did sing in the Beauty Pageant though. I sang brown.
Speaker 1: Baby, you got to do It.
Speaker 6: I did do that, and I sang to a little
Speaker 6: big doll in the Swaddling Clues, and I sang the
Speaker 6: brun baby rum Baby. So that was the only time
Speaker 6: I had really sang anything that is crazy.
Speaker 3: I was in high school. I was singing my face
Speaker 3: off everywhere, and you just.
Speaker 6: And I wish I would have youthing's better. But I
Speaker 6: think when I when I came out, I wish I'd
Speaker 6: had more preliminary work on performing live what to do
Speaker 6: with my hands because at first this arm here was
Speaker 6: like it was like you never watched the Flintstones and
Speaker 6: the hands are always down here one hand, just one arm.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 6: I was one it was and I went, I'd be
Speaker 6: like and lift it and then it would go back.
Speaker 6: It's not cute. It's really not cute.
Speaker 3: I know the group I'm trying to think of the
Speaker 3: group that was before the flints are out of space and.
Speaker 6: The one they wouldn't move, the arm that's my it
Speaker 6: was paralyzed. And so I wish that I'd had more
Speaker 6: work on how to present myself when I watch. And
Speaker 6: the thing about it is, I started. I knew how
Speaker 6: to do my hair and my makeup, and so they
Speaker 6: were cheap. They were like, oh, you do your hair
Speaker 6: and you make up. Once I said I knew how,
Speaker 6: they were like, oh, you're not even gonna have nobody
Speaker 6: do that. So you see me looking like me would
Speaker 6: me would look, but not like I should have been styled.
Speaker 6: I should have been make up and people should have
Speaker 6: done those things. And I was doing it. I look
Speaker 6: like church girl because that's why I was so my hair.
Speaker 6: I just finished doing it and then I'd be on
Speaker 6: showtime to the Apollo and the dress topic. That's crazy,
Speaker 6: and you know, I just feel like I wish somebody
Speaker 6: would have done.
Speaker 3: You would do all of those things for sure. But
Speaker 3: I'll just tell you outside looking at and we're going
Speaker 3: to go back to finish the story we did. We
Speaker 3: did not notice, We didn't know. We just like, right,
Speaker 3: she's incredible. That's that's all we So I get it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to give me the moment where.
Speaker 3: Where you now believe where you know this this you
Speaker 3: as a solo artist, singer, like you circle. When you
Speaker 3: finally circle back to your both.
Speaker 5: Of those, it's like, oh, yeah, you know what, I
Speaker 5: can't model. Maybe'll so we never get shun to say more.
Speaker 5: If you go to five nine or five.
Speaker 6: Ten, No, you probably wouldn't. Probably not. That would have
Speaker 6: been nice, would be nice to be taller.
Speaker 1: The things that happened your legs stop.
Speaker 6: Bro, I thought of it, but that's so painful.
Speaker 3: And when it looked like it took him a year
Speaker 3: to get his walking back, I said, now I'm.
Speaker 6: Good, Like that's be grateful moment.
Speaker 4: Take this five ten and deal with it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, five ten, I'm gonna deal with that. Seventeen eighteen eighteen,
Speaker 6: I met a guy I was modeling at these clubs.
Speaker 6: We had these modeling groups, and we were midling. I
Speaker 6: got the name of the club. But we were modeling
Speaker 6: my and this one football player saw me and started
Speaker 6: buying all the outfits that I was in, and.
Speaker 4: You what do you mean?
Speaker 6: And people could auction. We auction the clothes like if
Speaker 6: they go, oh, twenty five dollars, I was, you know,
Speaker 6: through somebody go oh thirty dollars, okay, when I turn
Speaker 6: and poth and okay. And then whenever they get the
Speaker 6: last bid, you give him the card and they get
Speaker 6: that dress. And so he started buying the dresses I
Speaker 6: was in. And after the Momming show, this is so bananas.
Speaker 6: I haven't eve thought it was forever h and uh.
Speaker 6: So afterward I was like, oh, you know, here's all
Speaker 6: your cards and you know, outfits go to He was
Speaker 6: like you. I'm like, oh, shoot, okay. I don't remember
Speaker 6: what happened after that, but after that he wanted me
Speaker 6: in those outfits of course, and he heard some of
Speaker 6: my songs that I just was doing at home, and
Speaker 6: I told him I wanted to sing, and he was like, well,
Speaker 6: I'm going to build a place in my house that
Speaker 6: you've just come over and sing. So I would go
Speaker 6: to his house and sing, and I don't know how
Speaker 6: this happened. This sounds so bizarre because I haven't talked
Speaker 6: about this in a long time. This is weird. But
Speaker 6: I had a keyboard and a four track which turned
Speaker 6: into a six track recording thing, and I started just
Speaker 6: trying to create songs. And wow, seventeen eighteen, I wrote
Speaker 6: a song that's on my first album and it was
Speaker 6: called Listen to My Song. And Darryl Sutton was in
Speaker 6: San Diego, and I don't know how it got connected,
Speaker 6: but he had a person who knew had a studio,
Speaker 6: and I went in the studio and I sang some
Speaker 6: songs and Daryl's and connected me to some girl. Forgot
Speaker 6: his name, her name right now, but she was an
Speaker 6: assistant to Benny Medina, and somehow that connection happened and
Speaker 6: they got my demo and they said yes, and Bennie
Speaker 6: Medina signed me to Warner brother Records when I was eighteen,
Speaker 6: and I recorded an entire album and after I finished it,
Speaker 6: he dropped me, and then.
Speaker 1: You did the whole album, though I did full project.
Speaker 6: Full project, and he dropped me. And I met Eldbarche
Speaker 6: here in La at a stage production. I forgot where
Speaker 6: it was, though it's in Culver City, because when.
Speaker 1: You signed the Warner Brothers, you moved to LA.
Speaker 6: I what did I do? I did not move to LA.
Speaker 6: I was still in San Diego. I recorded my album
Speaker 6: in Sacramento. I got connected to Jay King and they said,
Speaker 6: they said, you know, work with him and he'll produce
Speaker 6: your record. He's hot right now whatever, and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 6: So I did an entire project. And then actually I
Speaker 6: met Brian Morgan during that time because he was in
Speaker 6: the group Cachet Deuvois and so that was he was
Speaker 6: signed to Jay as well. And after I finished, Yeah,
Speaker 6: I did a stage production met El DeBarge. Chased El
Speaker 6: DeBarge because he was just like the most talented and
Speaker 6: you know, the light skinned thing was really really in
Speaker 6: at that time, and so I talked to his manager
Speaker 6: more than I talked to him, because l it was
Speaker 6: just like everywhere. And his manager was Fred Moultrie, who
Speaker 6: was Prince's accountant and so he had all these things
Speaker 6: in Lucas said he was representing him. It was a
Speaker 6: whole bunch of people on the wall. And I called
Speaker 6: him to find out how do I get a manager?
Speaker 6: How do I get somebody who actually would take me
Speaker 6: where I need to go because I don't know how
Speaker 6: to I don't know how to do this. And he
Speaker 6: was like, i've heard your demo, I'll represent you. And
Speaker 6: I was like, get the heck out, and so we
Speaker 6: took the album I made for Warner Brothers, condensed it
Speaker 6: and that was my demo. We went to La Face
Speaker 6: MCA and it seemed like one other place, but it
Speaker 6: was the battle between La Face and MCA Records, and
Speaker 6: Tony Braxton had just signed with La Face and Louil
Speaker 6: was just so gung ho. Loul called La and Face
Speaker 6: and ask him not to sign me because we were
Speaker 6: going to go with them because of the songwriting, and
Speaker 6: they said okay, And that's how I ended up at
Speaker 6: MCA Records.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: And this is after stay right week about You?
Speaker 6: Yes, that was the time where I was in Takama,
Speaker 6: That's where I met him. Yeah.
Speaker 1: How did you feel the first time you heard that?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Did you even know it was about you at first?
Speaker 6: I did? I remember the day. I don't know who's
Speaker 6: whose apartment it was it could I think it might
Speaker 6: have been Brian's. I'm not really sure, but we were
Speaker 6: sitting and he was because I dated Jay King, which
Speaker 6: is well known because I rarely mentioned his name, but
Speaker 6: nevertheless he said, whenever I see you with him, I
Speaker 6: hear this, And he wrote that. He said it was
Speaker 6: a circus. And he said, and you when you're not
Speaker 6: with him, right, I hear this the little that's the
Speaker 6: first I heard. He didn't play the whole thing, but
Speaker 6: that was the part. He said, that was what I
Speaker 6: make him think of. And then he wrote the song
Speaker 6: and did he definitely did play for me.
Speaker 3: But that is so great.
Speaker 1: Did you think it was a hit when you heard it?
Speaker 6: You know, I like the song, but I like Brian's songs.
Speaker 6: He I love what they did well. He had songs
Speaker 6: that never came out. It was a song called wrong,
Speaker 6: just like five and five just don't make nine. I
Speaker 6: was like wrong. So he always had songs that were great.
Speaker 6: But I didn't know it to be a hit or
Speaker 6: not a hit. I think music is what I love,
Speaker 6: and so I didn't know if it was a hit
Speaker 6: or not.
Speaker 3: M So you get the little silence, Yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 3: he's cracking at this time. Yeah, And you had been
Speaker 3: signed to you know, the Bennymdenny thing and all this,
Speaker 3: and and now you're here with Louil, what is what
Speaker 3: do you feel like? Is the difference in this opportunity
Speaker 3: versus that one.
Speaker 6: His excitement, his knowing what he wanted from me. He
Speaker 6: wasn't trying to make me something else. He heard my
Speaker 6: voice and he wanted me to be the next with Houston,
Speaker 6: the k next Mariah care You are mine, wouldn't you?
Speaker 6: You are mine, Mariah? You are going to be the
Speaker 6: biggest thing better. So I love that he had such
Speaker 6: vision and he was so excited. You can't buy people
Speaker 6: being excited about you, especially in the music industry. Everybody's
Speaker 6: always thinking of the next something else other than you.
Speaker 6: So it was nice to be to have his excitement
Speaker 6: about me. I didn't have to hype him up for me. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it was just my dreams coming true. And what was
Speaker 6: interesting because he signed me to MCA Records, and that
Speaker 6: was just the Lord protecting me from what was going
Speaker 6: to happen, because my career would have been over after
Speaker 6: one record. Because he signed me to MCA and then
Speaker 6: asked me to be his first release off Silas Records
Speaker 6: and then Silace Records was really a setup for a
Speaker 6: little to go down. They were tired of his antics.
Speaker 6: He was a lovely person, but he was a bulldog
Speaker 6: and he always is was cussing and yelling and screaming
Speaker 6: and popping veins at people, and.
Speaker 1: Maybe the record man. He was a record man, he was, but.
Speaker 6: He burned some bridges with that attitude he had. He
Speaker 6: made a lot of things wonderful, and his era was
Speaker 6: just ending when he met me, when I met him.
Speaker 6: So then they gave him the label to sink him right.
Speaker 6: So once that happened, then I was right on the
Speaker 6: NCAA Records again after that went away.
Speaker 5: So once once they dissolved Silence Records, then they picked
Speaker 5: you back up, though.
Speaker 6: They never let me go. As their point, we want
Speaker 6: her what's.
Speaker 3: The what's the what's the terms? No, there's there's a
Speaker 3: there's a term in the contract where once where all
Speaker 3: the artists.
Speaker 5: Revert back to Yeah, I know you're talking about I
Speaker 5: can't think of the name. It's kind of just a
Speaker 5: absorbing absorb it, but it's in the contract.
Speaker 4: But they move if we don't fuck with that no more,
Speaker 4: we still need those.
Speaker 5: Back no, because I think, and this is a really
Speaker 5: important part to talk about during the show too, is
Speaker 5: that most of these labels aren't actually labels.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.
Speaker 5: They're production companies, and they don't have true ownership in
Speaker 5: their companies, and their masters are still owned by and
Speaker 5: still you know, promoted and licensed and distributed by this
Speaker 5: parent company.
Speaker 1: So the artists aren't their actual artists.
Speaker 5: And you young executives and you young brothers who are
Speaker 5: starting your labels and doing your thing, make sure that
Speaker 5: your artists are your artists, not the distributors artists, not
Speaker 5: the parent companies artists, because they will sink your company
Speaker 5: and absorb your artists.
Speaker 6: But I was directly signed first third. I will say
Speaker 6: that that is not exact actly how it went, but
Speaker 6: I do understand what you're saying to teach the audience,
Speaker 6: teach artists that that does happen. But I literally was
Speaker 6: signed to because he.
Speaker 1: Was an executive there. First they gave him.
Speaker 6: Then the label happened. So then he asked me to
Speaker 6: just wait, and I waited.
Speaker 3: So did you drop on your initial did you come
Speaker 3: out on your initial deal with MCA? Yeah, when the
Speaker 3: first first.
Speaker 6: Precious came out, Precious was on Silas, So I waited
Speaker 6: because they were building Silas when I got signed in
Speaker 6: ninety one. And then he wanted me to wait till
Speaker 6: ninety two to come out so that I could be
Speaker 6: on his label. And in between that, I did the
Speaker 6: song with eld Barge you know what I Like? And
Speaker 6: that was how I met the director. Ant He did
Speaker 6: that you Know What I Like video, which is why
Speaker 6: Antoine Fuquad did Loves taking Over video in Paris, which
Speaker 6: is why Ntwine Fuqua did It's all Right video.
Speaker 3: And that's just a bar nex suerbar, that's a super.
Speaker 1: Bar because now he's doing a Jackson movie. He's doing
Speaker 1: a Michael Jackson movie now too?
Speaker 3: Are you kidding your Jesus Christas?
Speaker 4: Were you thinking that this is Banana's.
Speaker 1: At the time, not that he was.
Speaker 6: I had no idea, but but it was just my
Speaker 6: dreams were coming true. That's for sure. Mind blowing. Going
Speaker 6: to Paris in the first place. I'm like, we're going,
Speaker 6: we get to go. We went in two days and
Speaker 6: shot it. It was just Banana.
Speaker 1: Had you ever been overseas before that?
Speaker 6: I went to London, but that was it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shooting your video, yeah.
Speaker 6: In Paris used to be first single.
Speaker 4: First single, that's disrespect.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, Now when you look at Louell, that
Speaker 6: was what it was about. Louil was about making epic
Speaker 6: things happen. The stuff he did, I mean, if we
Speaker 6: look back at his track record, it's amazing. I mean,
Speaker 6: just one group, and then how we were talking about
Speaker 6: you as about different artists stemming from those other all
Speaker 6: those groups, and then all the people who came after that,
Speaker 6: and then that producing all the people that came after that.
Speaker 5: I'm a product of Blue gave me my first record
Speaker 5: here as a kid ten years old, no side as junior, Like.
Speaker 1: There's so many the tree.
Speaker 5: Of the people that he's worked or worked with, and man,
Speaker 5: it's vision vision.
Speaker 3: As we talk about like a lot of the record
Speaker 3: company men and women who were shall we say, boisterous, yes,
Speaker 3: and big in personality, I just don't feel like and
Speaker 3: it gets to a point to where, yes, a lot
Speaker 3: of these guys end up getting pushed and phased out,
Speaker 3: for sure, But I feel like, as you guys say
Speaker 3: you're connected to that kind of guy, I'm connected to
Speaker 3: that kind of guy who was not shy about telling
Speaker 3: the motherfucker.
Speaker 5: If you're not doing your job. Try, I mean, because
Speaker 5: that's the other thing. Try sitting in those meetings and
Speaker 5: you got a table full of people who are just
Speaker 5: trying to get a two week check, and you are
Speaker 5: a record man. When passion who wants to take his
Speaker 5: brand new artist who's never saw a record to Paris,
Speaker 5: come on.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to jump on the table.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to You're gonna have to do some
Speaker 5: screaming because you have to make people see the vision
Speaker 5: because everyone is not a visionary, no matter. You may
Speaker 5: be in the music business, but that does not make
Speaker 5: you a visionary. So being a visionary is really tough because.
Speaker 1: You got to be able to articulate it. You gotta
Speaker 1: be able to show it to the people.
Speaker 6: Champion, champion.
Speaker 5: But then you gotta gotta be a little boisterous about it.
Speaker 5: You gotta fight tooth and fucking you gotta make it.
Speaker 5: You gotta make somebody feel like if I don't do that,
Speaker 5: I'm fucking up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she do need to go to Paris because you
Speaker 6: put this song, that beautiful artist in his voice.
Speaker 1: You gotta put it in parents.
Speaker 5: But the person that's looking at the bottom line, looking
Speaker 5: at the P and L, they're like.
Speaker 1: That's it's gonna be a line on that. Well, we're
Speaker 1: gonna make a superstar.
Speaker 6: When you get the person who is in power, who's
Speaker 6: behind you, and that was at that time Louell was
Speaker 6: that person. So he did I'm sure have to have
Speaker 6: something brewed by a d or whoever it was in
Speaker 6: charge of whatever. But he was mainly the one like, Okay,
Speaker 6: this is our budget, right, let's make this part happen.
Speaker 6: We'll cut back on this and do that, and we'll
Speaker 6: travel here and we'll do so he was making stuff
Speaker 6: happen that that's what you want to happen. When the
Speaker 6: Special Union.
Speaker 3: If you believe, you believe, listen, I spent I spent
Speaker 3: five hundred thousand on the first video, seven hundred on
Speaker 3: the second. Like this is like black dar little boutique label.
Speaker 3: Barry Hankinson, Joe will Say. Hankerson said, we are not
Speaker 3: gonna fucking lose. We're gonna bet the ranch. He had
Speaker 3: actual and I watched him call everybody all sorts of motherfuckers, sons.
Speaker 4: In my honor, like all those men like that shot up.
Speaker 3: Uh goanna say many, many blessings and prayers to the
Speaker 3: Gotty family.
Speaker 4: Earth Gotti, who was another.
Speaker 3: Guy like that recordmen who called me out of the
Speaker 3: blue one day, dank, I'm riding my fucking jeep.
Speaker 4: You know it's fucking R and B shit. I like.
Speaker 4: I like some of the R and B shit.
Speaker 3: I like it. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: But all that fucking lovey duffy. You know I'm a
Speaker 3: streak guy, but that fucking maybe I deserve, not the
Speaker 3: fucking record I'm playing it right now, Like that energy
Speaker 3: for an artist's.
Speaker 4: Everything made me feel like a conquer the world.
Speaker 3: When I hear motherfucker saying, motherfucker on my behalf, you
Speaker 3: played this motherfucking record, but we're gonna kill you.
Speaker 1: That's the far they can't say. They can't say that,
Speaker 1: that's that part.
Speaker 5: You gotta omit that we're gonna break you.
Speaker 6: This like, yeah, that's why.
Speaker 3: That's why ninety eight percent of us are here because
Speaker 3: of that fight. It wasn't an analytic it was a feeling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna fight for this feeling that I had. This Shante
Speaker 3: More is something fucking special. You better fucking play this
Speaker 3: record or I'm coming out there.
Speaker 6: But you know what also happened in the middle of
Speaker 6: that time period, right in the middle of my record,
Speaker 6: my first record going up the charts. It was this
Speaker 6: shift that happened. It was a Paola first and then
Speaker 6: it began to be what is the thing when they
Speaker 6: had the no it was like or your records were
Speaker 6: here if you played that many of them. There was
Speaker 6: as a word for it, and I can't remember the
Speaker 6: name of it. BDS and sound Scan, and so when
Speaker 6: that happened, it was like the shift happened. And it
Speaker 6: was interesting as I was paying attention to s WV
Speaker 6: at the time and because of knowing Brian and him
Speaker 6: producing them and their first song and mine was here,
Speaker 6: and then BDS and SoundScan took over and mine ended
Speaker 6: up there hmmm, because they were getting more airplay being that,
Speaker 6: you know, so you and my song I guess wasn't
Speaker 6: as much as that, and so it got switched. And
Speaker 6: I just saw how it was so hard to quote
Speaker 6: unquote work the charts after that, and not that things
Speaker 6: didn't do well, it was fine. I just think that
Speaker 6: I don't know, I'm the kind of artist everybody's always like, oh,
Speaker 6: you're so underrated and you should have and you could have,
Speaker 6: and know we hoped you would, and I don't know,
Speaker 6: I just feel like it's always been this almost made
Speaker 6: it kind of thing, and I'm grateful. Don't let me
Speaker 6: make it something that I'm thinking that I haven't had
Speaker 6: a successful career. I have, and I feel like sustaining
Speaker 6: is even better than being a shooting star and then
Speaker 6: disappearing because a lot of people came out around my
Speaker 6: time and they're gone and I can't even remember their
Speaker 6: names or their songs. I remember one song and you're like,
Speaker 6: who's sang that?
Speaker 3: Again?
Speaker 6: I forgot what the girl was?
Speaker 4: That what happens?
Speaker 6: And so I'm really really grateful to have had this
Speaker 6: almost under the radar career where I've been honing my
Speaker 6: craft still and still performing and still trying to get
Speaker 6: better and still paying attention to the audience and feeding
Speaker 6: them and them feeding me and making me feel loved.
Speaker 6: That's been a roller coaster ride, but it's been good.
Speaker 3: The shooting star thing, I mean, I was that haunted
Speaker 3: me for a long time. It's like, I'm better than
Speaker 3: that motherfucker. And I was like, I was like, I
Speaker 3: just really want to do this for a really long time,
Speaker 3: and I just kind of got I got settled in.
Speaker 3: I was like, what is what is my reason for
Speaker 3: being here? What is what is what is my purpose?
Speaker 3: What is my design? And it was it was. It
Speaker 3: was a guy by the name of Jamie Fox saying, man,
Speaker 3: I study you. I love what you're doing. Like, Wow,
Speaker 3: you're you're the blueprint man. Keep doing that. It was
Speaker 3: a guy my name of Chris Brown said, oh my god,
Speaker 3: bro that sex, love and pain. I changed my freaking life.
Speaker 3: Oh Trey songs, I can't believe. Like jojoh I singing
Speaker 3: no for No, it goes and I'm like, h h,
Speaker 3: That's what I'm here for. And I settled out of
Speaker 3: the the wanting the shooting star moment, and I said,
Speaker 3: I just I just want my start to shine constantly.
Speaker 3: And that's what I feel like. You are, like you're
Speaker 3: you're You're You're You're timeless. No matter when or how
Speaker 3: we see you, you always shine.
Speaker 1: See you guys are like the nurse star.
Speaker 3: People who can people who can sing right, people are
Speaker 3: musically inclined.
Speaker 1: Are your way to freedom?
Speaker 3: No, who know exactly who in the fun Jane Moore is.
Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, it's not even a quest. That's not even
Speaker 5: the question the question.
Speaker 3: And so some of some of some of our gifts,
Speaker 3: some of us gifted, we are relegated to inspire and
Speaker 3: and push and and help and serve.
Speaker 6: The gifted and our audience. I've seen you live and
Speaker 6: that's when I really really became a fan. I saw
Speaker 6: you move around that stage. I saw you play and
Speaker 6: sing and move all of the women that were in
Speaker 6: the audience, and no, for real, like really just be
Speaker 6: sexy and you know it, and and there was like, yeah,
Speaker 6: their minds about you and I you know, you can't
Speaker 6: get that from the album. You can make moments personally
Speaker 6: with your album is very sexy, but you don't know
Speaker 6: who you are as an artist until you see you.
Speaker 6: Like I feel like it's like seeing Patti LaBelle lives.
Speaker 6: You can't contain her voice, and I feel like that's
Speaker 6: the thing that you are as well. I feel like
Speaker 6: that's where I can shine and have fun and fall
Speaker 6: down and get back up again, and it's all right
Speaker 6: because because what you're gonna do and a real concert,
Speaker 6: you can't. You fall down and you sing from floor
Speaker 6: or you get back up. Whatever you're gonna do, you
Speaker 6: do it. And that's the mindset that I had already
Speaker 6: figured out, is that I'm not about the perfection. If
Speaker 6: I mess up my own, so I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 6: messed up the words. Let's get back to it and
Speaker 6: then you know, sing what it comes to mind.
Speaker 3: That's another part of your gift where you're you know,
Speaker 3: you're just you're resilient in that.
Speaker 6: That is one of my words that describe myself as resilient,
Speaker 6: resilient in that.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: But you bring up also with and I feel like
Speaker 5: with both of you where the whole shooting star thing.
Speaker 5: But you guys did get success out the gate too,
Speaker 5: though It's not like it was like Okay, well it's
Speaker 5: a sputter a little bit, but like get a gold album.
Speaker 1: You got cracking, you know what.
Speaker 5: I mean, Like you hit records from the beginning, so
Speaker 5: you know, I think it's now and people having an
Speaker 5: understanding of that, like now it's maintaining it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now it's maintaining it.
Speaker 5: And like the next projects and the you know, the
Speaker 5: label things and all the other things that happened that.
Speaker 1: The public usually does not know.
Speaker 5: The public don't know that the parent company is trying
Speaker 5: to sink the smaller.
Speaker 1: Label and that you're just kind of collaboral damage.
Speaker 6: Nobody cared, and that nobody cares about that. What they
Speaker 6: care about is what they hear on the radio. What's
Speaker 6: interesting is I remember some of the questions you all
Speaker 6: sent us ahead of time. Made me think of a
Speaker 6: situation that puff Daddy was in the studio and I
Speaker 6: had already done a record with Rodney Jerkins, and my
Speaker 6: song was called If I Gave Love. Hers was if
Speaker 6: You Had My Life, same song. Puff Daddy heard my
Speaker 6: song and said, I want that song for j Lo.
Speaker 6: And Roddy was like that that Chante's song, and he said,
Speaker 6: I want that song. So powerful people get what they want,
Speaker 6: and so they made their own song that they made
Speaker 6: for me for her same song. And that's a thing
Speaker 6: I wish that I would have been more aggressive and
Speaker 6: been more like, well, let's put them both at the
Speaker 6: same time.
Speaker 3: Then I was all about to say that, and we.
Speaker 6: Did, but we did, and I was like, how can
Speaker 6: I compete with j Lo money? They were coming so
Speaker 6: high and I had already just I just had Jantie's
Speaker 6: Got a Mantle. That was my one two punch. That
Speaker 6: was the two and I just feel like we just
Speaker 6: like b After that, I'm like, okay, well uh yeah,
Speaker 6: so we'll see you know, it's all good. What's wonderful
Speaker 6: is that learning the lessons and understanding which purpose is.
Speaker 6: My purpose is to sing and inspire the audience, not
Speaker 6: necessarily other artist. I think that when you sing for
Speaker 6: the people who support you, the people who show up,
Speaker 6: especially being a believer, these are the things that move me.
Speaker 6: Is when I move my audience, when I encourage them
Speaker 6: and let them know they're not alone, and they get
Speaker 6: into this thing because you know, people see the look
Speaker 6: of things and I'm like, yeah, no, the glitter, lipstick
Speaker 6: and makeup and all this stuff comes off. I'm really
Speaker 6: just a girl. And it really is true because heartbreak comes,
Speaker 6: sadness comes, depression comes, not knowing my worth, all of
Speaker 6: the things, jealousy, everything comes as a human and then
Speaker 6: being a woman on top of that, and you have
Speaker 6: to deal with it whether or not you sing for
Speaker 6: a living or if you're working at Target. So that
Speaker 6: is what I realized through the years that I am
Speaker 6: made to do is inspire and talk about who God
Speaker 6: is when I'm on stage and try to encourage somebody
Speaker 6: to believe when they don't believe. No more. Yeah, that's
Speaker 6: what I'm supposed to do. I love it.
Speaker 3: Give me a moment when you were on stage and
Speaker 3: you realize for the first time you had a hit record.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, yeah, well it's funny because I did Soul
Speaker 6: Train and don Cornelius, Cornelius, Cornelius, I'm gonna say, Cornelius asked.
Speaker 6: He asked, Liul, did we pay people in the audience
Speaker 6: to get excited about that song? And Loul was like,
Speaker 6: who's having done that? He was like, but people are
Speaker 6: really reacted to that immediately, and he was like, what
Speaker 6: do you want me to do? So that was one
Speaker 6: moment I was like, people really must like the song.
Speaker 6: And then I did a show, a radio show with
Speaker 6: Destiny's Child, and I remember uh singing on that caliber
Speaker 6: of a show and the people were singing so loud
Speaker 6: I couldn't hear myself and little white girls and that
Speaker 6: I had never had that before because you know, we're black,
Speaker 6: and they played black music on black radio. Unless you
Speaker 6: cross over, nobody's gonna nobody in another race is going
Speaker 6: to really So that song was doing so well. I
Speaker 6: was on a radio show with Destiny's Child, so I
Speaker 6: was out there and I watched the people sing it back,
Speaker 6: and it did take me aback, like I was like,
Speaker 6: what y'all, Oh, y'all noticed? Okay, So it was a
Speaker 6: radio show, and then what's interesting is after that show
Speaker 6: is what is even more memorable. Beyonce was like, huh,
Speaker 6: your somethach smaller than mine? You had a baby, yes,
Speaker 6: something smaller than mine. Okay. She was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: have to get to work and latch there, Hippa. I
Speaker 6: watched her and I love it. I loved it and
Speaker 6: I hated it at the same time because it was
Speaker 6: just like wow, like how a career can just and
Speaker 6: I and I love it because I love the She
Speaker 6: was a star then, and we you know, in the
Speaker 6: group of all of them, it was beautiful and we're
Speaker 6: all were like group, group, group. We were like our eyes,
Speaker 6: we're not leaving her. I think that's when you see
Speaker 6: the actor in a group.
Speaker 1: But then the work she put.
Speaker 6: In, yeah, to maintain it and still a whole another level.
Speaker 6: But that was one of the moments. And I still,
Speaker 6: honestly every time they say Shanta more ninety five percent
Speaker 6: of the time they say my name backstage when I'm
Speaker 6: about to go on, and I go, shoot, that's me,
Speaker 6: Like it's me because that's my name since a kid.
Speaker 6: I was not like it's another name. I'm not like, yeah,
Speaker 6: that lady.
Speaker 4: I was taking a baby too well.
Speaker 6: But you know it's a weird thing.
Speaker 1: How you mentioned the record.
Speaker 5: How do y'all come up with that with saying like, Okay,
Speaker 5: this is what we're going to call the song Shantees
Speaker 5: got a man.
Speaker 6: Jimmy and Terry and I were sitting in the studio
Speaker 6: writing many songs because.
Speaker 4: Still stop there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was just a studio in Minneapolis, but it
Speaker 6: was incredible. Honestly, we had been in the studio for
Speaker 6: almost a year and a half. It had taken to
Speaker 6: make this record. It was a long time. Every time
Speaker 6: we came home they were little, was like yeah, no,
Speaker 6: I mean it's good, but we need we need that song.
Speaker 6: And I remember Jimmy jam said you need a ghetto song,
Speaker 6: like you need John Day's ghetto song, and so we
Speaker 6: all went huh. And he was like, you know, like
Speaker 6: that Kelly Price kind of thing, you know that thing?
Speaker 6: And I was like, okay, so big jim I rest
Speaker 6: his soul. He started playing something on the keys and
Speaker 6: I was talking about how my friends all were upset
Speaker 6: in the mad and their boyfriends were cheating and beating
Speaker 6: them up literally uh, And I was like, sorry, I'm
Speaker 6: really happy. I don't know what to say to you.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry your man ain't home, really feel bad for you,
Speaker 6: but I was so giddy and happy that I couldn't
Speaker 6: I could I could uh empathize because everybody's had the heartbroken,
Speaker 6: everybody had somebody cheat, everybody's had the man who's not
Speaker 6: at home with you when you want to be. But
Speaker 6: I had my man at home. And it was that
Speaker 6: moment that we were like, huh, Shaanta's gettle song, that's
Speaker 6: what it was called before Shant's got Yeah, And I
Speaker 6: have the cassette Jimmy Jam's c G Shahntay's Ghettle song
Speaker 6: CGS on a cassette with the first music of that song.
Speaker 3: Happened that great. I'm just jealous. I'm just jealous, everybody said.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna make it a point to work with
Speaker 3: Jimmy Jam.
Speaker 1: And I'm about to give you another one. She had
Speaker 1: some more bart.
Speaker 5: I don't even know, because I don't think a lot
Speaker 5: of people talk about You're amazing song, which is a
Speaker 5: different type of song on the Waiting to Exhale soundtrack.
Speaker 1: Oh, like that is such a bar.
Speaker 5: Because baby Face decided he's going to write all these
Speaker 5: songs for all these great women, for this great movie soundtrack.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Like, but.
Speaker 1: He sends you a song, or you go to the
Speaker 1: studio and you talk out the words.
Speaker 6: No words, scat song.
Speaker 1: It has no words, man, baby Face, the king of words.
Speaker 6: Can I tell you how mad little was? I can
Speaker 6: I tell you how much he does.
Speaker 4: That's one of the story.
Speaker 6: So I don't know how it ended up being my song.
Speaker 6: I think he. I think he genuinely was a fan
Speaker 6: of my voice and thought.
Speaker 1: I could pull it off because in it ly they
Speaker 1: wanted to sign you.
Speaker 6: They did. I didn't think about that at that moment,
Speaker 6: but yes, so I was always yes because it's face,
Speaker 6: you know, and how do you not work with baby Face?
Speaker 6: So my thing is, you know, be kind and do
Speaker 6: your best and be grateful, you know for what doors
Speaker 6: are opened for you, because I know doors don't open
Speaker 6: for everybody. And being on the album that I knew
Speaker 6: was produced all by him. I knew Aretha was on it,
Speaker 6: I knew Whitney was on it, I knew CC Winings,
Speaker 6: I knew Brandy was on it, I knew Tony Braxton
Speaker 6: was on it.
Speaker 1: So my answer was yes, yes, you hear anything.
Speaker 6: And I sank background. I think on like five of
Speaker 6: those songs, I think I'm on Shoot, definitely on uh,
Speaker 6: Tony's definitely on Paddle La Bells. And it seemed like
Speaker 6: it was a couple of other people. One girl was
Speaker 6: singing rapping, and I was singing the background. Face was like,
Speaker 6: just please come plase sing.
Speaker 3: I love to sing.
Speaker 6: I love singing background.
Speaker 1: I loved I say songs on Wait Next Cooking.
Speaker 6: So I did. And that's just so.
Speaker 1: When you first heard it, though, what do you what
Speaker 1: do you come on? Because we hear now it was beautiful.
Speaker 6: I just thought it's just an extra song.
Speaker 1: Did you think that?
Speaker 5: Okay, well, maybe he's just playing me the melody and
Speaker 5: he's gonna he's gonna feel in work.
Speaker 6: He told me it was this. I probably have the
Speaker 6: cassette somewhere, but I don't remember. Oh his version of
Speaker 6: him singing it, Yeah, I think so, or maybe I
Speaker 6: don't know. He might have just did it then. I
Speaker 6: I but yeah, I knew even.
Speaker 1: When I was young and I heard, I was like,
Speaker 1: this sounds like jungle.
Speaker 6: Look, but it's the song that if I'm on an
Speaker 6: airplane and somebody black says, oh my god, I love you.
Speaker 6: I love you, Oh my god, blah blah blah. Because
Speaker 6: black people they love me. They always show me love
Speaker 6: everywhere I go always, but it's the white person that's
Speaker 6: next to me that goes, Okay, so I don't know you,
Speaker 6: and I'm really sorry, but I don't know the excitement
Speaker 6: and all that, but like, what do you do? And
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, I'm singer, you know, oh what, I
Speaker 6: know your stuff and I don't know how to point
Speaker 6: them to me. And I say, well, have you ever
Speaker 6: seen waiting to exhale? And they go, oh, yeah Houston
Speaker 6: and blah blah. I was like, yeah, So the very
Speaker 6: first song in Whitney Houston has a convertible first song
Speaker 6: that's plane when her hair is blown in the wind.
Speaker 6: That's me, the first voice she hears me. That's how
Speaker 6: I explain myself to the Caucasian persuit.
Speaker 1: That's actually a great how do you explain yourself to
Speaker 1: the white people?
Speaker 4: I oh, I can't make you love me? Sometimes I
Speaker 4: use that or I say I say, They're like they
Speaker 4: so you sing that.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, sing. It's like, well, what I know
Speaker 3: any of your songs? And I'm like, do you do
Speaker 3: you like sexy time.
Speaker 6: What record do you put on?
Speaker 3: Do you.
Speaker 5: Like sexy?
Speaker 4: Do you pro create? Because my music is of the
Speaker 4: pro creation?
Speaker 6: That really is that album is? Really?
Speaker 3: What song would you say? I said, you really want
Speaker 3: to get nasty? I got a song called when weed
Speaker 3: it get you pregnant? I'm just throwing it out there.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to put too much on you.
Speaker 3: But do you want your legs to go up high?
Speaker 1: That got them?
Speaker 4: I got them going to it right now?
Speaker 6: She cuts the pearls. Why are you talking about I
Speaker 6: would never I remember.
Speaker 3: I remember I told yes, some white people like almost
Speaker 3: like a little family or whatever. My husband was saying this, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: my wife's looking at your chest.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: This is just because it's like, I'm sorry, What can
Speaker 4: I do?
Speaker 1: Somebody got to come up with a show explaining black music?
Speaker 6: How do you connect the dots?
Speaker 3: So in in all of this, and when we talked
Speaker 3: about purpose, and we talked about you know, the people
Speaker 3: and all of these twisting turns, right, what is the
Speaker 3: thing that you want to be remembered for.
Speaker 6: Inspiring love and evolving? Like I started here and I
Speaker 6: think I was pretty good. And then I started looking
Speaker 6: at what I had done performances and you have to
Speaker 6: own them differently if you want to make a statement.
Speaker 6: And I think I know, I was afraid. I still
Speaker 6: have jitters before I go on stage. But I was
Speaker 6: afraid because I didn't have enough practice doing what I
Speaker 6: did for a living. The first time I performed live
Speaker 6: before our audience, that was my own stuff, and like
Speaker 6: I sang this place called the moon Glow in San
Speaker 6: Diego with the Baha strings and we sang top forty.
Speaker 6: I sang everything from part time Lover to shibop whatever.
Speaker 6: I sang all that stuff. And I wasn't even twenty
Speaker 6: one yet, but I sang three shows two three shows
Speaker 6: a night, three nights a week, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, one
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty dollars a night. But the first time
Speaker 6: I ever sang my music, I was singing in front
Speaker 6: of MCA Records, doing the you Know show in my
Speaker 6: new music before I went to with George Duke over
Speaker 6: to Montroe Jazz Festival. That was the next time I
Speaker 6: sang I Know, and I knew where I was going,
Speaker 6: and I knew it was crazy, and I wasn't prepared.
Speaker 6: I wish I felt more confident and prepared and practiced,
Speaker 6: and I think people were so excited about the tone
Speaker 6: of my voice, and I understand now that that's something special.
Speaker 6: When Layla Hathaway comes up and goes, girl, your tone,
Speaker 6: let me tell you that your tongue. I'm serious.
Speaker 1: That's what she did. And it's like you.
Speaker 6: She said, you must know you, you must know honey.
Speaker 6: And I'm like said the woman with the tone, her
Speaker 6: daddy and herself morphed into one amazing voice. So I
Speaker 6: kind of go, huh. Some people make you go well,
Speaker 6: maybe I'm not so bad because of what I think
Speaker 6: of them. But the thing is, you can't get confused
Speaker 6: when somebody goes before you and somebody goes singing a
Speaker 6: different way than I sing. The church vocals can be
Speaker 6: misleading or your ego starts to jump in and go,
Speaker 6: well they singing like this, let me and you have
Speaker 6: to stay in your lane. That's the thing I've learned
Speaker 6: is stay in your lane. You can only be you
Speaker 6: and I can only be me. But I am taking
Speaker 6: voice lessons. I just started taking voice lessons. I've had
Speaker 6: two and I'm repeating those over and over until you
Speaker 6: come back to me. But that is what I want
Speaker 6: to do is get better. There's stuff I want to
Speaker 6: know how to do. There's stuff when I get sick
Speaker 6: that I want to be able to just do some technique,
Speaker 6: make me go and get over it. It's changing the
Speaker 6: entire you know, melody.
Speaker 1: That's so cool to hear you say that, though, Man,
Speaker 1: you're still taking vocalists.
Speaker 6: No, I've never taken. It was Robert Stevens. He is amazing.
Speaker 6: I think he's Robert rab in some circles, but he.
Speaker 6: I was sitting next to him by chance on a
Speaker 6: flight from Atlanta last month and he noticed me sniffing
Speaker 6: and put my bag up for me and whatever. So
Speaker 6: we chatted the whole time, and it was weird that
Speaker 6: I don't usually talk on the airplane. I'm usually, you know,
Speaker 6: like hi, good night, okay, and I go to sleep
Speaker 6: or watch a movie. But somewhere in there we started
Speaker 6: chatting and and I was like, yeah, and I want
Speaker 6: to take voice lessons. And he was like, you don't
Speaker 6: realize that that's what I do. And I know exactly
Speaker 6: who you are, and blah blah bl and by the end,
Speaker 6: I was just like this was a I think because
Speaker 6: I didn't know who he was at all. But usually
Speaker 6: those people are behind the scenes.
Speaker 4: Robert, Yes, so that's who I'm gonna start.
Speaker 3: Taking get out.
Speaker 6: He is so amazing, Like it's so weird and wonderful
Speaker 6: at the same time.
Speaker 1: We just made.
Speaker 6: I met him with Justin Biber Timberlake. I knew that
Speaker 6: that's the I think of first. Yes, sorry, the original, Yes,
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, just keep moving.
Speaker 4: But I was like I was out there with with
Speaker 4: with Justin.
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, you like Crispy every night He's like
Speaker 3: brom Ashley, Like, I'm fucked up right now. Like vocally
Speaker 3: he's like, you know, my guy. He keeps me. I
Speaker 3: was like, Who's who's the guy? Who's my guy? Big
Speaker 3: Jason was like, trust me, he's always wants to meet
Speaker 3: the guy. I want to meet the guy. He's like,
Speaker 3: you need to you need to work with this nigga.
Speaker 3: And I was like, and I had been procrastinating on
Speaker 3: it for I would say years, and then finally not
Speaker 3: too long. I was like, I need your help. Man.
Speaker 3: I sing pretty good, but you know, I just want
Speaker 3: my conditioning. I want my stamina, I want my height back.
Speaker 3: Like I listened to like a lot of my old
Speaker 3: songs and I'm like listen to that young vocal. You
Speaker 3: gotta I gotta get back in the gym. I used
Speaker 3: to sing every day, every day, all day working at
Speaker 3: you watch watch this new thing.
Speaker 4: I can do like every day.
Speaker 3: And as you get older in his family and and
Speaker 3: and kids, and you can you just you just can't.
Speaker 3: And so you just you you You're You're not the
Speaker 3: same conditioned hooper you used to be when you were
Speaker 3: jumping every day.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You're not.
Speaker 3: You're just not the same. And I'm like, I just
Speaker 3: want to get some of that back. And I know
Speaker 3: if I do the work with the right person, I
Speaker 3: can do that. So it's funny that you said his
Speaker 3: name and I'm like, are you serious? And when you
Speaker 3: were saying you were on a plane with him to Atlanta,
Speaker 3: he was probably telling me, yeah, I'm on the way
Speaker 3: to LA for a few days.
Speaker 6: Let me know if you want to get Yeah, my
Speaker 6: first lesson two weeks ago, maybe maybe three, maybe yes, yeah, no,
Speaker 6: it's amazing. I have never known a warm up or
Speaker 6: a warm down. I don't even I don't trust it
Speaker 6: because I'm like, I'm gonna be tired trying to.
Speaker 3: Do a warm up.
Speaker 1: What I'm gonna do is wait.
Speaker 5: And saying when I get on, I'm saying practice pretty much.
Speaker 6: I can't. I do hot water and honey. It's my
Speaker 6: doctors like, you have high cholesterol. I was like, that
Speaker 6: is impossible. You are pre diabetic. Yeah, and I said,
Speaker 6: how in the world I don't eat if you looked
Speaker 6: at me and I work out, especially when the first
Speaker 6: they first said it it's because I have hot water
Speaker 6: and honey all the time. Honey is just sugar, just sugar,
Speaker 6: just sugar ate some cakes. No, but yeah, but the
Speaker 6: hot water and honey is what does it for me?
Speaker 6: And like during the show, Yeah, it's what I do.
Speaker 1: They got sugar free honey.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you can.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know if you can.
Speaker 6: It's smell of funny.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I think it's just something's turned into shaketh. Yes, but
Speaker 6: sugar free.
Speaker 4: Like I'm just it's just interesting how we parallel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like just the journey and I have another I
Speaker 6: have a song I want you to sing. I have
Speaker 6: a new record coming. And somebody was listening, Actually cook
Speaker 6: you cook Coo career, you know what, I don't never
Speaker 6: know his last name. He works with Laney and Tricky.
Speaker 1: Okay, so coach and producer.
Speaker 6: I didn't. Yeah, so he was I don't know who
Speaker 6: he was. I forgot who was named. But Cook was
Speaker 6: listening and Cook and then did can't Lighten You time
Speaker 6: ago for so first album for me was Laney and
Speaker 6: Tricky and and uh Laney and what's his name? Can't
Speaker 6: think of it right now, it's okay, But AnyWho, he
Speaker 6: was listening to one of the songs and he said,
Speaker 6: I love this. This sounded like a Tank song. And
Speaker 6: I was like, oh my god, it made me like
Speaker 6: the song even more thinking about you singing and I
Speaker 6: was like, oh, Tank gotta be oh my, that would
Speaker 6: make that record even hotter. But anyway, so we'll talk
Speaker 6: about that.
Speaker 4: People know how funny you are.
Speaker 1: This is great.
Speaker 6: I'm a goofball, That's what I am. But that was
Speaker 6: the thing I was as a kid is I was
Speaker 6: the comic relief. I was always trying to make everybody happy,
Speaker 6: make you smile. If mom and my sister were having
Speaker 6: problems with it normally, dude, I was trying to go, Mama, listen.
Speaker 6: She said not to say what's And then I said, listen, Mama,
Speaker 6: love you and just just don't talk back. That would
Speaker 6: be good, not to talk back time you lie your eyes.
Speaker 1: I can imagine doing this at like years old.
Speaker 4: That's what makes me funny, negotiating.
Speaker 6: I was just come to Tom and my sister and
Speaker 6: I are thickest because she knows she can always count
Speaker 6: on me. I know she is my sister. Like I'm like,
Speaker 6: You're the closest thing that will ever come to me
Speaker 6: because we got the same mom and same daddy. You
Speaker 6: could have been me, I could have been you. I
Speaker 6: don't know, but we just I just a lover.
Speaker 1: Speaking of coming together.
Speaker 3: So every.
Speaker 5: In Tank this because Tank is part of my family.
Speaker 5: My family comes together, right and we we we all
Speaker 5: get together and gather in the kitchen as my sister cooks.
Speaker 5: And there is a song that we sing as a
Speaker 5: family at every family event.
Speaker 1: It is called Contagious. All the men in the family.
Speaker 3: We take.
Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am, and all the women wait for.
Speaker 5: Please please give me the story behind this record, because
Speaker 5: it was so un expect it for you to pop
Speaker 5: up on that song.
Speaker 6: Yes or to the world it was no, no, no.
Speaker 6: It was to me too. So I knew r Kelly
Speaker 6: through Cheryl Cobb she's a fan. She's a friend first friend,
Speaker 6: then fan. Uh and then she always was like trying
Speaker 6: to push no matter what happened, she was trying to
Speaker 6: connect me with someone she has always connected me to.
Speaker 4: Robert.
Speaker 6: Robert was like, well, r who is really a good guy,
Speaker 6: like really a nice person, really funny. And so I
Speaker 6: hung out with him and her and he was like,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna write you a song. I'm gonna write you
Speaker 6: a song. He had a song he was gonna call
Speaker 6: Capital Love Capital l oh the e Capital love was
Speaker 6: Capital love. You never got to that Capital Love. But
Speaker 6: one day out of the blue he called and said,
Speaker 6: I want you to do something for me. Go would
Speaker 6: you go in the studio and I want you just
Speaker 6: to sing this party goes, but I want you sing
Speaker 6: it just like I tell you. And I was like, sure,
Speaker 6: I'll do it. So Robert, I, mister Issley and I
Speaker 6: never were in the same place.
Speaker 1: The way they make records now, uh huh people make
Speaker 1: records now.
Speaker 6: Right, yes, But yeah, so he just told me when
Speaker 6: to sing my part, Frank, So I just had to
Speaker 6: do my part.
Speaker 1: Talking.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, I just did what he told me to do.
Speaker 6: And then all at the end of it. It just
Speaker 6: was a song.
Speaker 1: But had you heard it.
Speaker 6: After it was done he sent it, yeah, probably probably
Speaker 6: when he mixed it. And then uh we did the
Speaker 6: video and we had to make out in the video.
Speaker 6: So Robert was like, we should practice that scene. I
Speaker 6: was like, I think, I think we'll know how to
Speaker 6: do it when.
Speaker 3: I believe that we.
Speaker 6: Practice. The connection has to be statistic.
Speaker 3: It's like when you hoop it, like you know, you
Speaker 3: got to practice, you know first, and then you got
Speaker 3: then you know, then you played the game, So we
Speaker 3: need to practice.
Speaker 6: I didn't need practice. I did not. I did not
Speaker 6: need practice. Now he can kiss, so I don't know
Speaker 6: why he don't. He was practice. But what's interesting is
Speaker 6: after that I can't be around because it was just
Speaker 6: it was too much.
Speaker 3: Mhmm.
Speaker 6: It was too much. They said that out Soria mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 6: So no other songs came after that, and I don't
Speaker 6: think it as often as I probably should.
Speaker 1: So it's not in your show.
Speaker 6: It was for a little while, and I think it's
Speaker 6: harder when it comes back up and he's in the
Speaker 6: news again and all that stuff. It's just a lot.
Speaker 6: But I mean when it comes on, I just do doom, doom, doom,
Speaker 6: and then what the hell is doing that comes on?
Speaker 6: And then everybody and I start doing what you and
Speaker 6: your family do. So yeah, then they go, right, that
Speaker 6: was shotting.
Speaker 3: So you've been part of some really dope, really dope moments.
Speaker 3: I'm bad, some really dope moment And I think it's
Speaker 3: like the power of those moments and how you showed
Speaker 3: up in those moments that that is what has sustain you.
Speaker 3: And like people people like like let's say hit records, right,
Speaker 3: like hit like life changing records. Right. I don't have
Speaker 3: that many, but the few that I have, oh, I.
Speaker 6: Know, I need to learn how to do that more.
Speaker 3: I get the milk, Yeah, I get the milk, all
Speaker 3: the milk. Like people like this, oh you, you.
Speaker 6: And the fing some crazy people get to have the
Speaker 6: most fun.
Speaker 3: And it's it's it's it's using those great moments, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, and and and letting them carry
Speaker 3: you through because of how you showed up in those moments.
Speaker 6: But you have to know that they are and I
Speaker 6: think that's something that being the underdog of the family
Speaker 6: or you know, the baby and the grunt, you know,
Speaker 6: just like you know the one that it's I'm used
Speaker 6: to minimalizing some things, and so I didn't get it
Speaker 6: when some of those fantastic moments happened that they were significant.
Speaker 6: I when I sing some songs like Way You and
Speaker 6: My Show, but I was thinking because of our because
Speaker 6: the way loul was like, ah, I can't believe you
Speaker 6: did that. And it didn't even my norminal lyrics on it.
Speaker 1: So I never say it you sing it at first.
Speaker 6: No, lately I have because of Stephen, not because well.
Speaker 1: Way way way wait wait, this was not part of
Speaker 1: you show.
Speaker 6: Always no, no, mm hmm. It was like a thumb.
Speaker 6: It was the thing that baby Face said he would
Speaker 6: do a song because I had done so much for
Speaker 6: that album and you know, I'm gonna and it never happened.
Speaker 6: And that's why you got to keep relationships though and
Speaker 6: not be bitter, you know, because it really is about
Speaker 6: the rhythm of life. It is life that has to
Speaker 6: continue to happen, relationships that connect old to the new.
Speaker 6: And this is a perfect setup for the new album.
Speaker 6: I have a record with Lady and Tricky and and
Speaker 6: uh Babyface and it's about to be We're Taken and
Speaker 6: Jim and Terry and you know, it's a it's a
Speaker 6: body of work, and it's called evolved because that's what
Speaker 6: I really feel like I've been doing is just evolving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love it.
Speaker 6: I love it. I have a song with Bennett and
Speaker 6: it's pretty good. And that's the thing is, I don't
Speaker 6: watch the charts.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't even watch where it's going because it is
Speaker 6: what it is or it isn't. My life has not
Speaker 6: been based on charts. It's been based on people showing
Speaker 6: up to my shows. That's how I make a living.
Speaker 3: I'm happy that you are making new music because you
Speaker 3: should make new music. Your voice should be heard on
Speaker 3: new shit.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 4: Why the fuck not?
Speaker 3: How many?
Speaker 1: How many shows do you do a year? Even do
Speaker 1: you try to keep it to a certain number?
Speaker 6: Oh no, last year I worked a lot. Year before
Speaker 6: I worked a whole I worked a whole lot in America,
Speaker 6: and I spoke this that I want to be, you know, overseas.
Speaker 6: I think there's a market for me overseas, and there
Speaker 6: still is. I believe there's more things that I need
Speaker 6: to work, places I need to go. I've been in
Speaker 6: America and Aii, I've been around America. Last year I
Speaker 6: went to China and just spent three months there and
Speaker 6: say three months, three months, you do. I was in
Speaker 6: a singing competition, Chinese singing competition called Singer twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6: I didn't know was that at first, and they said
Speaker 6: will you go there? And I said yes, and they
Speaker 6: said okay, And it's a competition, singer competition with other
Speaker 6: Chinese artists. So these other people have been in the industry.
Speaker 6: They're not like noviced novices, uh, but they are really entertainers.
Speaker 6: And so we battled ere free week what yeah, wait,
Speaker 6: wait for thirty fourteen fifteen fifteen week.
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 4: But mind you.
Speaker 6: The first day I was no, but the but it
Speaker 6: was different because the movie.
Speaker 5: You know as a movie, because you're getting off the
Speaker 5: place niggas getting knocked out by vocals.
Speaker 6: Thinking what it was a great opportunity. I got there
Speaker 6: and I didn't know what cause I found out about
Speaker 6: it when I was on tom Join a cruise and
Speaker 6: I was not singing that week, and they called and
Speaker 6: Joey Fleming, Joseph Fleming, I think they call Joey now,
Speaker 6: but he called and said that somebody I sang Happy
Speaker 6: Birthday at his birthday party. Last year, and then he
Speaker 6: said this lady Chinese lady came up to me afterward
Speaker 6: and she was like I would like to. She was
Speaker 6: all close and all in my space. I was like,
Speaker 6: she's weird. I don't think i'm and so I gave
Speaker 6: her my other phone number because I was like, this
Speaker 6: is a business call and I didn't even pay attention.
Speaker 6: And then Joey called and was like, hey, you know
Speaker 6: this lady. Her name is Tay and she wants you
Speaker 6: to do La bla that. I was like, Oh, this
Speaker 6: is for real, real, So I said yes and I
Speaker 6: went and a week later I landed. Then that night
Speaker 6: I did a sound check and the stage was incredible.
Speaker 6: The sound was incredible, the band was incredible, the orchestra
Speaker 6: was incredible, the lights, everything was amazing. And then the
Speaker 6: next day I got I put my clothes on and
Speaker 6: that night I sang and I won first prize. That
Speaker 6: first night, I sang Alicia Keys if I Ain't Got You,
Speaker 6: and two hundred and fifty million people watched in China.
Speaker 6: What two hundred and fifty million people?
Speaker 3: Oh, we dropping this outum in China.
Speaker 5: No, I'm about to figure out how to put your assarate.
Speaker 4: We need to put this single out in China.
Speaker 1: And it's not racist that I said that. So I
Speaker 1: missed me with that bullshit.
Speaker 4: I need to get I have not been and I'm
Speaker 4: going with you. I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 6: You know, no, it's it's it was. It was life changing.
Speaker 6: Days later, I was walking on the street with Steven,
Speaker 6: my husband, and people going the trip them all, and
Speaker 6: they started calling me Momo. Now I am Momo in
Speaker 6: China fifteen weeks, singing everybody else's song from Wrecking Ball
Speaker 6: to Alicia Too. Everybody, I am Momo.
Speaker 3: If you don't get back over, I'm going. I went.
Speaker 6: I went a few times last year, which is what
Speaker 6: we were talking about. But I I'm singing a lot,
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna go back. We don't have the times
Speaker 6: set right now. I did the Chinese version of Tiny Desk,
Speaker 6: which I haven't doing American. I haven't done American yet,
Speaker 6: but I don't want to until the record comes out.
Speaker 3: But AnyWho, uh, Yeah, your album has to be released,
Speaker 3: and it has to be a thing. It has to
Speaker 3: be you present to release your album. Momo has to
Speaker 3: be in China to release her album.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because you have you performed your records over there
Speaker 5: too at this point or not yet.
Speaker 6: I only have done one. One concert I did was
Speaker 6: one of a few, but it was a stadium of people. Yeah, no,
Speaker 6: it was. It's mind blowing.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 6: But I uh, I've done their TV show there and
Speaker 6: I've done two concerts there, but I intend to go
Speaker 6: back because yeah, because momos.
Speaker 3: Got I'm going to say this before I had the
Speaker 3: honor the honor of standing next to you singing backgrounds with.
Speaker 4: You know, with mister talk about it, talking about.
Speaker 3: Me and you Avery Wilson, and I will I will
Speaker 3: say we might be the coldest background unit of all times,
Speaker 3: all times. Anybody want to challenge that? We do want smoke.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of smoke, super smoke.
Speaker 5: As a fan, as a fan, I'm saying it as
Speaker 5: a fan. Y'all were all their cooking.
Speaker 3: And and I say this because I just want to
Speaker 3: speak this, you know, this this piece to other artists
Speaker 3: out there. For me, I'm not too big for any
Speaker 3: moment in music. Like when I came to rehearsal and
Speaker 3: I saw you with your iPad and your like you
Speaker 3: were you were background singer. I locked and low and
Speaker 3: I was like, I fuck what, Like, I am of
Speaker 3: the mind of whatever. Wherever I'm at, I'm going to
Speaker 3: go crazy in my spot. I'm going to live and
Speaker 3: enjoy my and and we were having the time of
Speaker 3: our lives being background singers, as elite lead singers. We
Speaker 3: were having the time of our life being background singers
Speaker 3: and and that type of thing, that type of love
Speaker 3: for the sport. Yeah, like.
Speaker 4: I appreciated.
Speaker 3: I appreciated having that camaraderie with you and Avery and
Speaker 3: and sharing.
Speaker 4: That because that was it was a team.
Speaker 6: We were in the car, we were like we.
Speaker 4: Was like and I was like, you wrote that.
Speaker 6: Oh my god. All the songs. We could not say
Speaker 6: his hits.
Speaker 4: Oh man, we had jakes. He was cutting sounds.
Speaker 3: We were like, no, no, But I really appreciate it
Speaker 3: and have fun standing beside you songs like you You're
Speaker 3: You're the ship.
Speaker 4: You're the ship, and so are you.
Speaker 6: And that's one of the most watched things that I've
Speaker 6: ever done, is that Tiny Desk and the Soul Trade.
Speaker 6: Those are the two biggest things that I think have
Speaker 6: gone like viral.
Speaker 3: Because because because you're really good, God damn it. Ship
Speaker 3: your top five R and B singers.
Speaker 6: Singers. First, let me say one thing first, is that
Speaker 6: two of the sexiest albums ever Marvin Gaye Tank. I
Speaker 6: just want to say that out now we're going, that's
Speaker 6: what the first thing. I just want to say, sexiest,
Speaker 6: like full on sexy and you knew and sexy what
Speaker 6: So just saying that, I'm just looking at.
Speaker 3: The cameras so they can so they know I'm standing
Speaker 3: on what you said.
Speaker 1: Here is the truth. It really is like the whole Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what we got you Now you're done.
Speaker 4: Okay, you are.
Speaker 1: Saying got okay, okay.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: Favorite artist period, it's got to be Prince. Just love him,
Speaker 6: Just love his style, his versatility, his ability to sing
Speaker 6: everything that sounded like rock and roll or UH or Elvis,
Speaker 6: it didn't matter, you know it. Just I loved just
Speaker 6: growing up having him musically. Michael Jackson, I think is
Speaker 6: a given for everybody, So I kind of stuck him
Speaker 6: in there because he is Michael Jackson. Tina Marie is
Speaker 6: one of the people that I grew up listening to.
Speaker 6: My mom used to go, you think she seemed better
Speaker 6: than you when she was on Then once they told me,
Speaker 6: I was saying she was really pumping, and so she said,
Speaker 6: you think Tina sing better than you? And I was like,
Speaker 6: well yeah, She was like she it's just more daring
Speaker 6: than you, and I was like you So anyway, Uh,
Speaker 6: the system, I absolutely love them. I love them and
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna say it real fast as if it's
Speaker 6: more than five. It's really just just moves them together.
Speaker 6: So shock up Marvin voiceing me a new edition. So
Speaker 6: just in there because Shaka's voice is just like a trumpet.
Speaker 6: That's the stuff I want to learn how to do that.
Speaker 6: That full mouth wide just she just got.
Speaker 3: A different throat. She is afferent throat.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Tremaine Hawkins was the other person that I was listening
Speaker 6: to that I was trying to do what she did
Speaker 6: and that's how I got But see, all things work
Speaker 6: together for my good because if I could do that,
Speaker 6: I wouldn't do the high stuff.
Speaker 3: You know, as you say that, because you know God
Speaker 3: by the name of Sean Stockman. He told me one day,
Speaker 3: He's like, he's Tank, I don't sing hard. I was like,
Speaker 3: what do you mean? He said, I don't sing hard
Speaker 3: and I don't try to. Why you do that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I do what I do and I stay there, and
Speaker 3: I was like, you do you do? And as you said,
Speaker 3: like chasing all those other things when you are you
Speaker 3: have your own uniqueness. It's right there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So we don't always appreciate ourselves. And I think
Speaker 6: that's a thing that even the Night of Soul Train
Speaker 6: Escape went before me and I thought they did a
Speaker 6: really good job. And I was listening to them and
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, this girl's a saying yeah. And
Speaker 6: I had to go, excuse me, ma'am. Do you don't
Speaker 6: listen to them and try to change how you approach
Speaker 6: your songs tonight? So I literally had to pull myself
Speaker 6: back and put me back in my own pocket. You
Speaker 6: can get, you get lost because there's so many different voices.
Speaker 6: And what's beautiful about boys to men is you have Sean,
Speaker 6: you have wan Ye, you have all all they have
Speaker 6: all the voices that when you can't do something, you
Speaker 6: just say you And you can't do that with yourself
Speaker 6: unless you have some other tools, which is what we
Speaker 6: would both be learning. So that was my list of
Speaker 6: top nine.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's your top five R and B songs.
Speaker 6: Hm, oh wait, let me do what I want to
Speaker 6: say to uh new artists, newish artists love money long,
Speaker 6: love money long. So love her style, her voice, the
Speaker 6: way she executes just mic is on. I love it, Uh, Vienna,
Speaker 6: she just knows who she is, and I love the
Speaker 6: way her voice is mixed. She's always mixed on the top.
Speaker 6: I always refer to her whenever anybody's doing any songs
Speaker 6: for me, I'm like, mix me where they put Rihanna.
Speaker 6: I don't care what song it is. It could be
Speaker 6: a song that you bouncing to or a song that
Speaker 6: you're like rocking to. She's right here, right there, and
Speaker 6: then the music and that's better for my voice. So
Speaker 6: I love her usher killing it already, Bruno Mars, we
Speaker 6: already know that wonderful Beyonce. I love. I love how
Speaker 6: she's evolved, and it's just she's trying to preach anything
Speaker 6: I did in Perison. How about that the first night
Speaker 6: that Homegirl her daughter was dancing, we were there, We're like,
Speaker 6: oh my god, we were laughing. I know that's only
Speaker 6: because with Stephen, it's not because of me. I would
Speaker 6: have been at home literally shout out.
Speaker 3: To Steve and.
Speaker 4: To turn up himself.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: And actually I believe r Kelly should be in that
Speaker 6: list no matter what he has come R and B
Speaker 6: straight right in the middle of the eyes. So he
Speaker 6: shouldn't did what he did. But that's not nothing to
Speaker 6: do with the music, all right, what else do your Okay?
Speaker 6: I had to put Shanta's Got a Man at home
Speaker 6: because I wouldn't have a real long career without that.
Speaker 6: I don't think I put while we're here, That's what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. Still love it in my system one of
Speaker 6: my favorite songs. I love that, Prince, I love everything.
Speaker 6: These are songs that I think make me want to
Speaker 6: get up and dances, which is what I think what
Speaker 6: made me think of them.
Speaker 3: D M S R.
Speaker 6: I love Prince, D M s R dance music. Okay,
Speaker 6: just making sure you.
Speaker 4: Knew, Uh, don't do this here at the R and B,
Speaker 4: R and B and early.
Speaker 6: In the morning. I love it. Uh? How does it feel?
Speaker 6: I love that?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 6: And then I put on airs where I put not
Speaker 6: to make sexiest CD Tank and Marvel Gato where I
Speaker 6: put up there, but I did the other one first.
Speaker 6: And wait, let me tell you how gigantic they.
Speaker 3: Know you got fought, you got, you got big because these.
Speaker 6: Eyes, I mean they eight I am. I'm not even talking.
Speaker 3: About it big, fun, big, and it was old. It
Speaker 3: was thick letters.
Speaker 6: I like when they go smaller. But if you keep
Speaker 6: saying in the one, it makes like a thing in
Speaker 6: the top. If you keep texting in this regular bread
Speaker 6: and then there's brio.
Speaker 4: So you got you got that.
Speaker 6: It's true. I've embraced my eyeballs can't see, so I
Speaker 6: have glasses everywhere.
Speaker 3: Miss Shante Moore, Let's build a voltron. You're super R
Speaker 3: and B artists. Who are you going to get the
Speaker 3: vocal from the performance style, the styling of the artists,
Speaker 3: the passion of the artist. And since you just you
Speaker 3: like to write songs with Jimmy jam and Terry Lewis,
Speaker 3: who's gonna write the write, Let's start with the vocal.
Speaker 4: One vocal for your super R and B artist.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say, shakak she can do it all is
Speaker 6: pretty awesome, amazing.
Speaker 5: Range off the chart in the chest on here and
Speaker 5: you tell Miss Shaka Khan to come to the podcast.
Speaker 1: Can you call it?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You know that's that is, you know because be thinking,
Speaker 3: you know people I do that. I know she kicked
Speaker 3: me out of the section one time. Try to see
Speaker 3: and we and we've been coating cool after that, that's
Speaker 3: the way you gotta kick me out. I do that.
Speaker 4: She needed a place to sit. Tell lem niggas to move.
Speaker 6: Everybody had a moment.
Speaker 4: I'm a move but playing talk to me nice. The
Speaker 4: performance style.
Speaker 6: In my dream, this is a dream.
Speaker 4: This is your super R and b R is yours.
Speaker 4: However you want it.
Speaker 6: Sink like Shaka, dance like Beyon m hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and beyones be cutting up on stage, cutting up,
Speaker 3: hard work, dedication, all of it, all night with the fan.
Speaker 4: With the fans. Yeah do that. Oh my god, our
Speaker 4: conditioning is graz night tonight. Styling mm hmm.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say my style work it working really nobody
Speaker 6: but always always class. If I could sing like that
Speaker 6: and still be me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well done. They knew, they knew earlier. You
Speaker 3: could style yourself. Hit your own care, hit your will
Speaker 3: give you know. But listen, st figured out what I
Speaker 3: need the budget for shan, grab yourself some if you
Speaker 3: will go back to grab yourself something.
Speaker 6: Just see my little church haircut and let's go back
Speaker 6: to the showtime with the Apollo.
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's just me.
Speaker 3: Just pull up a picture the little screen shot the
Speaker 3: passion of the artist, the heart of the artists. Who
Speaker 3: means it?
Speaker 6: Mm hmm, passion and heart.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: Tina Turner ship yes sing anime. Yeah, because she sang
Speaker 6: everything from the from the guts of guts. I wouldn't
Speaker 6: want every single song, but everythingle song to be that
Speaker 6: guts because sometimes you got to relax a little bit.
Speaker 6: But still, if you have the option be in shockup,
Speaker 6: you can do what you do.
Speaker 3: I love that that's worked. There's Tina and then there's
Speaker 3: b Yes, that is why that, that's why that is.
Speaker 3: And who's writing for this artist? Yeah, that's a hot
Speaker 3: see question. And you friends and every single everybody.
Speaker 4: Great song.
Speaker 1: He's written a song for you.
Speaker 6: Man, don't get mistarted.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: The thing, the hardest song the song I was pressed
Speaker 6: more to work past my own limits that song. I
Speaker 6: think it took me over a couple of months to
Speaker 6: sing Shanta's got a man, I got horse and got tired.
Speaker 6: Jimmy and Terry were like, go home, baby, we'll see
Speaker 6: it today. You think you need a couple of go
Speaker 6: home and go rest and then come back because we
Speaker 6: didn't get the vocal and I'm singing and they're going
Speaker 6: imagine Mariah Carey is in the audience. You are at
Speaker 6: the award show and you're singing some of the year go.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 6: I was like, I don't want to sing during that
Speaker 6: kind of pressure. So I would say Jimmy and Terry
Speaker 6: because they worked me the singing hard, melodic, soft, the backgrounds, harmonies.
Speaker 6: They want it all. Some are some producers get stuck
Speaker 6: on the tone and they don't press for go singing,
Speaker 6: go try harder ye, and then some just want that
Speaker 6: and they don't understand there has to be a finesse
Speaker 6: to get to So Jimmy and.
Speaker 3: Terry, Yeah, you don't pick somebody. Some of the greatest
Speaker 3: songwriters and producers of all time and they are so
Speaker 3: friends they are.
Speaker 6: Isn't that awesome? That's awesome. So I of course married
Speaker 6: Stephen Hill, and I know Stephen absolutely loves Jimmy and Terry.
Speaker 6: He loves music period, but he especially has an affinity
Speaker 6: for Jimy and Terry. So I asked them to co
Speaker 6: write the song I walked down the aisle to him
Speaker 6: on so they did. So that was the song that
Speaker 6: is on my record that it's going to be on
Speaker 6: the new record.
Speaker 1: You've got it Forever in love, we are pouring champagne.
Speaker 6: What's funny is he is the most supportive, Like he
Speaker 6: just gets overwhelmed with the love and the joy and
Speaker 6: I'm like, cry more about it than I do. It's
Speaker 6: just He's like, it's just swarm up, yes, baby, it is.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 6: But I am. I am so grateful to have some
Speaker 6: someone who who does appreciate and value absolutely not just
Speaker 6: chant on stage, but me at home for real, literally.
Speaker 3: At home about my god.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 5: So we're here now at the very important part of
Speaker 5: the show. Will you tell us a story? Funnyer fucked up?
Speaker 5: A funny and fucked up? The only rule to the
Speaker 5: game is shante.
Speaker 3: Can you say no? No.
Speaker 6: I have two stories that come to my One is
Speaker 6: I was on this show and I had this full
Speaker 6: length mink coat on and I was supposed to come
Speaker 6: down the stairs and then start talking to the host.
Speaker 6: And I was coming down the stairs and I stepped
Speaker 6: on my own coat, and so I just rolled up
Speaker 6: into the coat and I couldn't get up because every
Speaker 6: step I made was on the coat that was on me.
Speaker 6: And I sat there and everyone the guys came and
Speaker 6: they lifted me up, and this particular person which is
Speaker 6: really not like a bad thing. But she was like, oh,
Speaker 6: so you're just gonna lay there like a diva and
Speaker 6: late till they pick you up. And I was like,
Speaker 6: I didn't mean to, but I couldn't get up so
Speaker 6: that a funny story couldn't get it. I couldn't get
Speaker 6: my arm. So that's one. The one is another is uh,
Speaker 6: somebody I worked with said I couldn't get a record
Speaker 6: unless I slept with them, and so I said no,
Speaker 6: and that was the end. I never got the record.
Speaker 6: H Are there any others? There's probably a bunch of them.
Speaker 1: You really tell the.
Speaker 4: Ship.
Speaker 3: Mm uh.
Speaker 6: Someone who's gonna sign me before I got signed and
Speaker 6: they said, uh, we'll take your songs, but not you.
Speaker 6: You're not that special, but we'll take your songs. Though
Speaker 6: I was like, well they come with me, so no.
Speaker 6: That was long before I signed.
Speaker 1: Will take your song?
Speaker 6: Mh. They were like, you want to be a writer, Jesus.
Speaker 3: It's tough this businesses.
Speaker 6: And keep a soft inside.
Speaker 3: That's the problem because because because you're going to get judged.
Speaker 4: Both ways.
Speaker 3: You're going to be judged for giving in and you're
Speaker 3: also going to be judged or standing firm on your morals,
Speaker 3: and so even in your nose, you have to figure
Speaker 3: out a way to make your no pleasant.
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: Which is no, which I mean, I'm just saying to.
Speaker 6: People that are in power, no is no. They don't
Speaker 6: get what they.
Speaker 3: Want so exactly, but just just giving the nuance of
Speaker 3: how it works a lot in entertainment for women, that
Speaker 3: balance of saying no and still being able to get
Speaker 3: an opportunity.
Speaker 6: I would have a different career if I said yes
Speaker 6: for four or five times, I'd have a completely different group,
Speaker 6: completely different And I'm okay with not having that.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen the the chante more you are, uh,
Speaker 3: we love and revere understanding that, and we appreciate those choices.
Speaker 3: That is why you are who you are.
Speaker 6: Yes, getting proud of yourself. Nobody else gonna be proud
Speaker 6: of you. That part I have to stand in.
Speaker 4: My shoes, stroll up, talk about it.
Speaker 3: You do. I think we are just, you know, we
Speaker 3: are just fans. We are just I mean, I feel
Speaker 3: like we're family members, so that goes without saying. But
Speaker 3: you know, I think we're we're We're always of the
Speaker 3: mind of understanding and appreciating the value of the people
Speaker 3: that we rock with and never letting, never taking that
Speaker 3: for granted, and never losing that that respect for it.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like seeing you here, you
Speaker 3: being here with us means something to us, because to
Speaker 3: us you are chante more. Like that name means something
Speaker 3: that mother But listen, my great grandfather to say Paul
Speaker 3: lewis home now, it's a big motherfucking difference. And when
Speaker 3: you say chante more, it just gets different because chante more.
Speaker 3: And that'll never change for us. This will always be
Speaker 3: a place where if you lose a little bit of
Speaker 3: self esteem, self esteem, you come onto the R and
Speaker 3: V Money Pod, you call one of us. We're gonna
Speaker 3: let you know exactly who and what you are, how
Speaker 3: important and how powerful and how impactful you are, and
Speaker 3: how needed you are. Your voice, your stories, your courage,
Speaker 3: your willingness to stand ten toes down on who you are,
Speaker 3: your comedy on now come on now.
Speaker 4: Like incredible.
Speaker 6: I feel the same way about both of you. Thank
Speaker 6: you for doing this. I'm just so proud of you
Speaker 6: all from moving out of what's your comfort zone as
Speaker 6: well and doing something completely it's outside of that, it's
Speaker 6: inside R and B. But it's still different.
Speaker 4: Than what.
Speaker 6: Amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's like and it's it's it's it's how
Speaker 4: can we be of service? Yeah? How can we?
Speaker 3: How can we help?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: And in the universe will take care of the rest.
Speaker 3: We'll take care of the rest. But how can we
Speaker 3: how can we have something that that we all can
Speaker 3: stand on, that we all can be proud of, that
Speaker 3: we all can say, hey, we we all collectively because
Speaker 3: I mean me and him can sit there and talk
Speaker 3: by hours, but we we need special people in this
Speaker 3: seat right here.
Speaker 6: Well, maybe R and B money has to be the
Speaker 6: new Yar City your hall. I'm just saying, we got
Speaker 6: married to the guy.
Speaker 1: That you're married to.
Speaker 4: The guy can consult us all the way you need
Speaker 4: to go see.
Speaker 3: You know your wife, you heard your wife always.
Speaker 6: But the thing is, I remember on b T before
Speaker 6: he was there, I was the first person to sing
Speaker 6: live on b E T tabot a live singing like
Speaker 6: doud camera first time. That's all.
Speaker 3: As as we continue to talk, you're just you're just
Speaker 3: more core, more more, which.
Speaker 4: Which speaks to why you are.
Speaker 3: More.
Speaker 4: Thank you incredible. My name is Tank Valentin.
Speaker 3: This the Everybody Podcast, the authority of all things R
Speaker 3: and B and apparently stand up as well. And you know,
Speaker 3: this has just been for us a special episode with
Speaker 3: a very incredible, special gifted, beautiful, amazing human being. And
Speaker 3: she goes by the name of Chante more discre