WEBVTT - Eras Only w/ Aviv Melmed 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.800 Hey everyone, I'm Devin Simone and I am Davon Rogers, 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:13.040 and we are back hosting MTV's Offecial Challenge podcast to 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:17.640 cover the Challenge Season forty Battle of the Eras. 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:21.400 Yes, Devin, it is the fortieth season of the Challenge. 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:23.400 I'm excited. How excited are you? 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:24.000 Girl? 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.600 You know I'm excited. I've always liked old So fortieth season, 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:28.560 we are. 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:30.720 Gonna get into it. 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:33.360 Oh my gosh, it's going to be iconic. Well, first 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:35.879 of all, just happy birthday and shout out to the Challenge. 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:36.600 Will. 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:40.320 Not many shows make it to forty seasons. It's iconic 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:41.720 that we are here. 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:42.760 Yeah. 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.680 So today we're kicking off the season covering the official 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:49.159 launch special, which Davon and I were lucky enough to 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.800 host alongside TJ in Vietnam. 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:56.120 This season is going to be so interesting to watch. 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.640 We have the Battle of the Eras. 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:02.360 Now it's gonna spy I see on this podcast because 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:04.080 we are a part of two different eras. 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:05.759 Okay, that is my sister. I love her. 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.559 Down yeah, but we are in two total different eras, 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.240 and I know she's probably gonna be rooting for her. 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:14.880 Era, not necessarily, I'm not necessary look, I'm loyal to 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:19.000 the people. No, I think there are I think it's 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.080 just going to be so interesting to see it play out. 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:24.919 And also the reason why probably I'm not like super 0:01:24.959 --> 0:01:26.640 loyal to my era is because I'm one of those 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:29.000 in betweeners. I came in on season twenty one, which 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:32.200 is the beginning of Era three, but I was initially 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.760 I came on Real World during ERA two, and I 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:37.199 was initially asked to be on a challenge season during 0:01:37.200 --> 0:01:40.600 ERA two, So in a way, I'm almost closer to 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:45.720 some Era two people then I was Era three, so 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:47.960 I and I love Era one. I love people on 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.240 Air four. So I'm just I just want everybody to 0:01:50.280 --> 0:01:53.120 have fun and I want to see I want everyone 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.640 to show up and see how they do and what's 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:58.880 crazy too. Because okay, so to give you guys a 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:00.640 little tea behind the scenes, so Day and I were 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.800 there and it was top secret, so none of the 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:05.280 cast new that TJ had flown us out right, we 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:06.440 got fleut out. 0:02:06.320 --> 0:02:09.680 And it was really crazy, like really interesting. 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:11.480 I mean, TJ just wanted it to be a surprise, 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.400 and I guess he figured that's what the people wanted. 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:14.040 I don't know. 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:17.919 That we popped out, oh chipped out. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:21.880 Ceet looked the most stunned. TCT like opened the door 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:22.800 and then didn't he shut it? 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.560 He shut it in our face, like just hut the 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:26.079 door in our face. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:27.880 I said, you never tell me twice Mama said, don't 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:28.960 never be no where I'm not welcome. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:30.160 But I'm out of here, goodbye. 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.040 I think he was just so stunned. 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.080 It was all in the end he gave us because 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.920 but it was all crazy. But what we were doing 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:39.880 when we did interview them is we were giving our 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:43.120 unsolicited sister opinion. So Dale, you why don't you take 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.400 the lead on some of the advice that we were giving, 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.720 like Amanda, for example, on what they should be doing. 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:52.280 Yes, going into talk to Amanda, y'all know if you know, 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:56.040 you know, Amanda's my girl, that is my sister ro right, 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:57.960 So having a conversation with her, I needed her to 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:00.880 know whatever beef you got with Kara, you gotta diet 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:03.720 it immediately because you got Tory in here, and Tory 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:05.679 is probably about to come for your throat. And that's 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:09.799 a common for you and Cara. So maybe just maybe 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.040 you might have to put your differences aside, and so 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:13.680 you know, I had to talk to her and tell 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:14.639 her put your pride. 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:16.560 Throw it down the toilet and flush it and you know, 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:23.840 mingle and she she listened. I said, that's my girl, 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:24.919 that's my girl. 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.919 But I want to be very clear in the conversation 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.400 that she's having with her. I don't think she did 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.120 it for political purposes. I really think that was a 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.200 genuine conversation she had with Bara like that was very 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.640 genuine and it was so refreshing to see it. 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:40.720 Even, you know, both of them being. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.480 Mature about the situation, because Kara could have not been receptive, 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.000 but Cara received it. And you know, and that's also 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.400 because we had a conversation with Kara. 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:49.840 We did. We gave Carl, yeah. 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:53.680 The same advice like, hey, you know you in here 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:54.800 by yourself. 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:02.800 Hold Josh, you told you and Josh hadn't started, so okay, 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.120 everyone knows you start politicking. 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.200 Or everyone knows that, right. 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.440 And Josh over here he was they've now been locked 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:10.680 down for I don't know how long. 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:14.040 Josh hadn't even started, yeah. 0:04:14.200 --> 0:04:17.120 Because he had his vacation Alliance members there. I remember 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:19.520 we asked him the tough question. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:20.600 We asked him. 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.160 We said hey, are they gonna look out for you? 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:24.720 And he told us he. 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.880 Said, no where everybody in the Alliance is going to 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:27.400 get their win. 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.760 And I asked him, I said, do you think that 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.480 they would push you in front of Anissa to get 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:34.680 a win? Do you really think that would happen? And 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:36.279 he couldn't come up with an answer. 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:36.920 Well, he said, I think. 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.440 We asked did you specifically clarify that with him? 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:39.600 Right? 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.760 He was assuming yeah, yeah, And we were like, okay, 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:45.840 did you point blank say, hey, is get clear? And 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:49.880 he was like, well, no, yeah, see we can't roll 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:51.960 with all Well, no, we can't roll with that. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.679 He's done this too many times. He knows better, Like, yeah, 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:56.880 knows better. 0:04:57.720 --> 0:04:58.960 So it was just great talking. 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:00.680 People got a chance to talk to Olivia about the 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:08.159 Harassio and Nuris situation, you know, I situation Like there's 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:12.960 so many everybody was just beefing. There's so many different dynamics, 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:16.160 the Kara and Laurel, like, there's so much going on 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.279 in this season and that I think that is the 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:21.080 hardest part because not only are the eras competing against 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.400 each other, the people within the eras aren't like competing 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.920 within each other and so that's a whole different. 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.280 And just like their history, Like, I haven't seen Nya 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.400 and Leroy together since they both left me on the 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:34.679 back of a bus in Uruguay because they were sitting 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.320 parallel me. Okay, they were sitting opposite me. They knew 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:40.520 I was there, they were doing other things, and they 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.520 got up off that bus when the bus stopped and 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:44.240 left me there in Uruguay. 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:46.320 So I have not seen them together. 0:05:46.560 --> 0:05:50.560 Obviously, I've seen Lisons, you know, since. 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:52.400 What was that like ten years ago? 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:58.080 It was really great to just see these interesting dynamics 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:02.800 people and to see people who were there rooting for 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.440 you in one of your biggest for lack of a 0:06:05.440 --> 0:06:08.160 better term, challenges years ago, still there and thriving was 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.200 just super special. And there's no one I would have 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:11.359 wanted to share that with other than you. 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:11.640 Day. 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.840 I'm gonna cry because we had such great moments, like 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.920 even you know, being there, but us bonding and having 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:21.520 that experience as well, and then like even being in 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.560 that moment, like you said, it was very nostalgic, and 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:25.440 I think the part that got me because you know, 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:29.960 thugs don't cry, but the part that got me was 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.880 pretty much everybody was like, you know, you're supposed to 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.680 be here, right, And I'm like, and to say that 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.719 to me, somebody who's never won, never even made it 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.480 to a final, and they all believed in me. I think, 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:43.440 you know, Johnny has said it to me, Cee t 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:46.400 has said it to me. Polly had me hemmed up 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.160 in a corner like just like, what do you mean? 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:50.560 What's your problem? 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:50.880 You know? 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.120 And it just it was so good, so refreshing. 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.320 Everyone wants to see you come back, and it just 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:56.160 you know what it was. 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:00.800 It was a family reunion. It was it was a family. 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.760 It see my cousins and I don't know how long. 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.480 That's exactly how it felt without the spades. 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.000 Was a family, which you know, there's the cousins you 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:13.960 like and the ones you get along with less, but 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.520 as a whole you love them and it's family. That's 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:18.960 exactly what it was. It was the challenge family reunion. 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.760 And it was just so special seeing Lee cry when 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.600 he saw Cam and the beautiful baby babies. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.360 Oh just really yeah. 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:31.600 Overall it was just really special and can we I'd 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.240 be remiss TJ. 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:35.880 I love TJ. 0:07:36.000 --> 0:07:40.200 We talked about his wardrobe. TJ came in hot. 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:40.760 Oh. 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:44.520 TJ looks so. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:46.960 So proud of him. He loves that I critique his work. 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.480 We talked about it. I relaid some of the messages 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:52.960 you guys, the fans have sent me about TJ's wardrobe. 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.960 He knows we're watching, he knows we're analyzing. He came 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.760 in so fly and it was such an honor to 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:04.520 get to stand beside him in such a special moment. 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:05.360 We love teach. 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.280 He has also approved. I want to let you guys know, 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.640 he has approved of us being called TJ's angels. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:12.600 You gave us the. 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:16.560 Stamp of approval people, So that's where we are. But yes, 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:22.520 this this premiere launch party was so good. Strategy started, 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:23.760 politickings started. 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:25.160 I'm looking over dramas. 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.760 I'm like, all of the things have started. 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.760 Yep, yep, and you know, the drama started, and it's 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:34.560 only going to get better and juicier. I cannot wait 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:36.920 to see what happens. Okay, So I just want to 0:08:36.960 --> 0:08:38.880 know here we go. Why don't we do it? Maybe 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.199 because this is an Olympic year, but why don't we 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:46.400 I'd love for us to rank the eras each week, 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.120 So I want to know, Like, who do you think 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.199 is going to come out on top like gold, who's 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.400 going to get silver, who's gonna get bronze, and who's 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.360 going to get participation? And it can be the same 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:58.520 each week, it can change based on what happens in 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:01.280 that episode. And I know the competition hasn't officially begun yet, 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:04.160 but just based on what you're seeing, based on who's 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.800 on what team and the histories, what would be your 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:09.960 order or your ranking this week? 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:11.720 Okay, so. 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:20.720 Participation points. First of all, I love my era down. 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.920 Okay, how many times she keeps saying that by the 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:25.640 end of the season. 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:30.120 But it's just too much pride. It's just too much drama. 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.240 It's just it's too much. And you know what it is, 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:34.400 it's a lot of people who want to be in charge. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:34.920 What is the time? 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.560 Too many chefs in the kitchen, way too many chefs 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.040 in the kitchen. Right, everybody has the it's my idea, 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.560 We're gonna do my plan. Everybody wants to be the 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.000 top dog in Era four, So I think I'm going 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:46.960 to give them participation trophy. 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:51.800 They showed up, they were there Era one and two. 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:52.199 I don't know. 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.880 I'm kind of stuck between which one to give the 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.760 gold because I feel like they both have something to prove. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:09:59.559 I feel like they have something to prove. 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.560 All these you know new kids as they like to 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:05.360 call us, have come in and have taken over. 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.920 Their show, and so they have something to prove. 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:08.360 And so. 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.160 I'm gonna give the gold to Era two. 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.160 Okay, I'm gonna give the gold to Era two. I'm 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:22.040 gonna give the silver to Era three, and I'm gonna 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.319 give the bronze to Era one. And the reason I 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.080 said I'm gonna give the silver to Era three is 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:32.160 because you got Tory, you got Jordan, you got There's 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:33.480 a bunch of champs there, you. 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:33.920 Know what I'm saying. 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:35.400 And then not to take away from anybody else because 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.600 a bunch of champs everywhere else, but a lot of 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:40.520 recent champs are there, if that makes sense. 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:41.800 You know, they just fresh out. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.360 A lot of them was in the last couple of seasons. 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:46.840 So you know, how you do something, it's like muscle memory. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.400 Oh I was just here. Some other people got to 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.880 shake the dust off, you know, Tride some oil on 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:52.280 the team. 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:53.200 Can We don't know? 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:55.680 So how about you? 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.000 You know what I'm gonna say. 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.439 For as of right now, my rank in the pre 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:05.200 week of the Challenge Season forty. I'd have to say 0:11:05.559 --> 0:11:10.520 that I think I think participation and I love my 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:16.800 Ara down for participation, I'm gonna give Era three for 0:11:17.679 --> 0:11:19.839 what you said about air Force. I think Era three 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.760 has too many cooks in the kitchen and I feel 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.439 like they're in that hybrid stage where I will be 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.960 hopeful but surprised to see if they learn how to 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.360 really work together as a team. I think they are 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:37.080 all very loud, talented, but individuals, like individualistic, and I 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.320 just don't even I don't even see really many teams 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.040 among them, Whereas for the other eras, I can see 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:43.640 little grouping, you know, like I see kind of half 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:45.160 teams and it's like, all right, if they could just 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.360 bridge this gap, then they can all work together. Whereas 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.360 Era three, I feel like you're starting from the bottom. 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:52.280 Although I am hopeful in seeing Amanda and just how 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.200 she approached Kara, and maybe it works. So I'm giving 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.960 participation to my own Era for this week. Era three, 0:11:58.360 --> 0:12:02.960 I think the bronze would go to And this one 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.920 is tough because there are it's it's there. 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:07.480 Is a line. 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:11.800 I think the bronze would probably go to Era four. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.760 I do think there are some powerhouses on there, Like 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.559 I'm looking at Kyland, I'm looking at Orossio, I'm looking 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.640 at Nourice. I'm looking at Olivia too. But and Casey, Actually, 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:21.960 you know what, never mind, take that back. 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:22.360 I lied. 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:26.640 No, I think Bronze is going to go to Era 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.679 two only because I think they might self implode, right, Like, 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.600 I think there's some strong ones there. There's a group, 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.880 but I think they can get distracted in fighting. I'm 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:37.160 also not quite sure how strong the guys are. I 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:42.880 think the Silver goes to Era four because I think 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.920 there are some powerhouses in your era, like collect Michelle 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:47.240 is literally a political mass. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:48.600 I mean we called her the Godfather. 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:52.240 Like, Michelle's brilliant and if they can just learn to 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:59.760 work together, Casey is like, like, don't sleep on Casey, right, Casey, Olivia, Nourice, 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:05.160 uh Herdassio, Kylind you got so many strong people there, Appaullie. 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:07.080 So I think Silver goes to air for. 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.800 And right now, I'm gonna say, I know they're old, 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:13.559 but with that age comes a certain level of wisdom. 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:17.559 Mm hm. So I think Era one could take home 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:19.680 the gold. At least that's how I see it this week. 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:21.200 I think Era one could take. 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.120 Home the gold Era one. 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:25.320 We'll see when the game actually starts. 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.440 So how did our numbers line up? They definitely didn't 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.319 because you said for gold Era two. 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:30.800 Or we were not on one accord at all. And 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:31.319 that's okay. 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.400 Yeah, that's gonna make this that's whats gonna make it fun. 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:34.920 And don't worry you guys. We're still gonna do gold 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:37.240 Star in timeout, but nobody has done much of this episode, 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.200 so we're just letting it fly. I mean, the gold 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:43.080 Star ultimately would be TJ's wardrobe and and hours because 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:44.080 day you look so flying. 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:45.000 Thank you. 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.280 She hated her heels was great? 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:49.600 Okay. I think we came in and we was floating. 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:53.480 Okay, we did. We did just TJ and his angels. 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.160 It's gonna be such a fun season and we are 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.880 excited to go on this ride and journey with you. 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.319 And get all the tea and talk. 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:04.560 To all these generations because we're literally looking at a 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:09.800 competition of Gen X, millennials and Gen Z which is 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.000 really cool. Yeah, kudos to whoever came up with this 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:14.760 format because that's actually pretty brilliant. 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:15.720 Oh, this is gonna be great. 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:18.880 Oh, this is gonna be so good. I'm excited. I'm 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.200 so excited that we are back on the podcast. We 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.080 love our girls, Thank you guys for coming. We do 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:27.520 Tori and Anissa, they held down the fourth for the 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:28.520 previous season. 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:29.760 Devin and I are. 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.920 Back and we get to watch our girls play. Yes, 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:34.720 and I'm so excited for them, for. 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:38.400 Sure, absolutely, and we are so excited for you guys 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:42.600 and our first guest. She is an icon because she 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:46.600 won and then she just disappeared and now she is back. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.920 She is coming for she's coming to remind us all 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:53.360 why she is a Challenge champion. You guys are not 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:56.000 going to want to miss this interview. We haven't heard 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.720 from her and literally over a decade, almost two decades. 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.840 So grab some snacks, get comfy, whatever you gotta do, 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.360 but don't go anywhere because when we come up, we have. 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:10.600 An interview with iconic Challenge champion of ev of E 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:12.320 right after this. 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.240 Okay, let's get back to the show, all right. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:24.800 Ladies and gentle people. 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:28.960 We are so excited for our first guests as we 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:33.800 kick off the season forty of the Challenge. She's iconic, 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:36.840 she came, she left her impression and then she was like, 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.680 I'm out, but now she's coming back for season forty. 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:45.040 Please give it up for a challenge, Champion of the. 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:51.880 Welcome Girl. 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:55.760 Welcome first, can we say you are smoldering right now? 0:15:55.800 --> 0:16:00.880 I mean just gorgeous, literally all the vibes, and you're 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:02.400 so excited to have you here. And how do you 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:04.920 feel being back after being gone for so long? 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:09.880 Oh my gosh, amazing. I feel better than I have 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:14.120 felt in a long time. And I think this opportunity 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:18.720 for me sort of came out of nowhere. I had 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:23.640 let go. You know, my first season was eighteen years ago. 0:16:23.800 --> 0:16:26.200 I was twenty one years old. I was still finishing 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.840 up college. I was a baby. I didn't know, you know, 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:35.760 just much about myself, much about life. And that being said, 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:39.920 I came, I won, and then then I was never back. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:45.200 So it was just like this cool thing that had 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.440 happened at one point in my life and I moved 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:53.520 on and to have this resurface after so long, and 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.400 I think for me, you know, I had just turned 0:16:55.400 --> 0:17:00.320 forty years old to have Season forty B forty and 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.720 come back to sort of this circle of life that 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.840 had started so long ago. And it never really had 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:08.920 you know, I think I never really had closure, and 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.439 I didn't realize it because it just, you know, it 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.680 was what it was, and that was it. So how fun. 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.359 Because we have at earlier AVIV. Yeah, were you called 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.080 back and you just turned it down? Or had you 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:21.679 not heard from the Challenge since? 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.359 So basically I was pretty boring my first season, like 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:31.240 minus winning, which apparently doesn't matter. But I didn't talk much. 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:34.280 I was terrified and I had been on a season 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:38.359 with all vets pretty much everyone in Era one, So 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.080 what you'll see is like, I'm much closer. Actually, I 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:43.480 know more people in Era one than I did. You 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:47.639 know an era too, which was interesting the season in general. 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.720 But you know, I think they called me back once 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.520 for availability, and then I had recently missed something in 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.639 the last two years when they started All Stars, and 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.199 they'd asked me to come for All Stars, but I 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:04.320 didn't see the message because I'm like forty. So anyway, 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.919 on jokes aside, I ended up kind of reconnected with 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.480 some people, and I think it was probably due to 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:12.960 some of the All Star stuff, and you know, Derek, 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.159 some people that I had worked with in Challenge media 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.520 and before I knew it. I had a call. It 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.760 was originally going to be potentially All Stars, and then 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.760 they put me in as an alternate for forty and 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:28.439 I'm like, Okay, this probably isn't going to happen. And 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.080 ten days before the show I found out, I was going, so. 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:35.280 Wow, wow, we want to be put in that moment 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.879 because eighteen years is. 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.560 A long time, long time. 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.680 And so you get the actual phone call. 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.360 What happens is it like yeah, sign me up, where 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:47.760 it's like hold on, let me let me let me 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:49.480 think about that for a minute. 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:54.480 I was just like I have a few questions, right, no, right? 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:56.280 What were the questions? 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.919 Well? Number one like how long is this right? Right, 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:04.439