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Speaker 1: Taking a Walk Nashville.

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Speaker 2: Hi everyone, this is Sarah Harrelson, your host of Taking

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Speaker 2: a Walk Nashville, and today I'm here in Cool Springs

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Speaker 2: in the Franklin area at the common Ground Gym. It's

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Speaker 2: owned by celebrity trainer Gunner Peterson and Gunner is one

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Speaker 2: of the most sought after trainers in the world, working

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Speaker 2: with and training a list celebrities such as the Kardashians

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Speaker 2: and the Jenner family, Sylvester Stallone, athletes like Tom Brady

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Speaker 2: and Mike Tyson, and many many more. Gunner served as

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Speaker 2: the director of Strength and Endurance for the La Lakers

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Speaker 2: from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty, and he just partnered

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Speaker 2: with the innovative red light therapy fitness company sole Basium.

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Speaker 2: Also joining here today remotely from Australia is Bradley Carden,

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Speaker 2: the CEO of soul Basium. So thank you both for

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Speaker 2: being here today in person and on zoom. I definitely

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Speaker 2: want to talk about red light therapy and these great products.

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Speaker 3: In a minute.

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Speaker 2: But this is a very fun and special episode for

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Speaker 2: Taking a Walk in Nashville because our listeners get to

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Speaker 2: hear both music and fitness today.

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Speaker 3: As a conversation, Gunner, Can you start off.

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Speaker 2: By telling our listeners how you transitioned from working and

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Speaker 2: living in LA to moving to Nashville.

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Speaker 4: Uh, the hardest part was getting my wife on board.

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Speaker 4: It was it was time. There was there was a

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Speaker 4: lead up to it. Obviously, my oldest daughter was going

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Speaker 4: off to college. The other two had gone on. I

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Speaker 4: had two little ones. The lease in my gym was

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Speaker 4: about to expire. LA was going through its growing pains

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Speaker 4: or shrinking pains, depending on how you saw it, in

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, and it

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Speaker 4: was just time and things lined up, and I thought

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Speaker 4: we looked at a lot of different places, but Nashville

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Speaker 4: checks a lot of boxes. It has obviously its own industry.

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Speaker 4: It has an international airport. My parents have a farm

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Speaker 4: about two and a half hours from here. They were

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Speaker 4: as all of us, you know, are getting older. But

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Speaker 4: I just thought it's the right time to make a move.

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Speaker 4: And eventually my wife got on board and we're all

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Speaker 4: very happy here. So it was just everything aligned and

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Speaker 4: it was time to do. Time to make a move. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: different chapters in life exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so many people have been moving from the West

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Speaker 2: coast to Nashville and other than you know athletes, You've

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Speaker 2: worked with a lot of musicians and artists. To Jennifer

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Speaker 2: Lopez for an example, why do you think it's important

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Speaker 2: for entertainers to stay fit while they're touring?

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Speaker 4: Entertainers and athletes, there's a there's a nexus right where

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Speaker 4: where those worlds collide, and I think they are inextricably

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Speaker 4: linked forever and always will be, regardless of AI. I

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Speaker 4: think that they have to be able to perform at

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Speaker 4: a high level much the way an athlete does. They

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Speaker 4: peak for certain projects, whether it's film tour and the

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Speaker 4: same way an athlete does. And sometimes their season is

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Speaker 4: even longer than an athlete season, So a lot of

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Speaker 4: similarities and working with them also depending on what kind

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Speaker 4: of act it is. Is it a high energy act

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Speaker 4: that is a ton of physical movement and dance and choreography,

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Speaker 4: or is it a standing in front of a microphone

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Speaker 4: barely moving but belting out something from deep within. There

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Speaker 4: are different demands physically which all require training, recovery, proper nutrition, supplementation, hydration,

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Speaker 4: all the things that go along with that, and there's

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Speaker 4: just to me, there's no separation. So you're working with overachievers,

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Speaker 4: high achievers. Those people fire me up as much as

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Speaker 4: I hope I do them when they get into the gym,

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Speaker 4: and I just love being in all those worlds right

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Speaker 4: Hopefully I've put together something that's going to serve them right,

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Speaker 4: it's definitely not going to hold them back and they

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Speaker 4: can improve. And then I do it alongside of partners

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Speaker 4: like Solbasiums, so they're getting top of the line recovery

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Speaker 4: treatments as we go right, whether it's whether it's a

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Speaker 4: protein shake from someone we work with, whether it's a

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Speaker 4: high end water with lower contaminants and pfas, or it's

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Speaker 4: red light therapy for loosening up prior to or recovery post.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to go with the Solbasiums with the nowadays,

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Speaker 4: I'm always looking to partner and align myself with the

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Speaker 4: companies that will help the people who come in here

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and recovery is so important, especially for artists. You know,

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Speaker 2: the time can take a big toll on people in

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Speaker 2: the music industry. And so Bradley, with your company Selbasium,

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Speaker 2: you are revolutionizing red light therapy and recovery technology. As

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Speaker 2: Gunner said, Bradley, can you talk to us about the

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Speaker 2: difference you have seen with people simply using red light

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Speaker 2: therapy versus other recovery methods.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think I think the industry in general, like

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Speaker 5: what we've noticed is that over the past five years

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Speaker 5: has just been an explosion in growth. I mean, like

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Speaker 5: everyday people now are using red light, they're using hyperbaric

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Speaker 5: oxygen chambers, it might be PEMF or even percussion therapy. Now,

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Speaker 5: you know, it wasn't always like this, you know, back

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Speaker 5: in the day, I remember like we couldn't even give

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Speaker 5: red light therapy devices a way because no one knew

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Speaker 5: about it. But to answer your question, you know, what

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Speaker 5: are people using alongside red light therapy and how popular

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Speaker 5: it is? Like, you know a lot of people use

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Speaker 5: the red light, especially the facial masks. They'll also use

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Speaker 5: the full body beds and even the panels and also

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Speaker 5: we're seeing more people that you know are using PEMTH

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Speaker 5: like I mentioned earlier, like you name it all. The

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Speaker 5: recovery technology is really like hitting the mainstream now and

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Speaker 5: it's a great thing.

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Speaker 4: It's funny you talk about back in the day, way

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Speaker 4: back in the day, getting someone to consider a monthly

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Speaker 4: or bi monthly massage was extravagant. Recovery meant sleep and

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Speaker 4: sleep only. And then it led into body work. And

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Speaker 4: then Jason Worslin created the Theorra gun right so handheld

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Speaker 4: percussive device, and then everyone else does that and improves

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Speaker 4: upon it. And then it comes to the percussive device

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Speaker 4: built into the PEMF mats. You have what Selvasium is doing,

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Speaker 4: which is taking it next level, next level, next level.

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Speaker 4: The red light therapy a reverse that was like people

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Speaker 4: were skeptical and now everybody wants it, everybody needs it,

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Speaker 4: and Selbasium makes it where it's like you have a

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Speaker 4: specific you have a pad for the back, you have

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Speaker 4: just easy to apply, easy to use, and it's funny

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Speaker 4: to think that. I mean, I've been in this business

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Speaker 4: thirty five years, thirty five years ago, no exaggeration. The

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Speaker 4: bi weekly or sorry, the bi monthly massage was a dream.

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Speaker 4: And now people can grab the gun and you know, handheld,

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Speaker 2: So speaking of like these products and the gun, if

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Speaker 2: is that how is that better than just using a

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Speaker 2: regular like thera gun without the red light therapy.

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Speaker 4: Brad I can answer, But that's your world, all right.

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Speaker 5: It's a very good question, and look, it's one that

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Speaker 5: comes up all the time. First of all, with red

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Speaker 5: light therapy, when you're going to deliver the light to

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Speaker 5: the body, there's a lot of things that you have

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Speaker 5: to take into consideration. It comes down to the melanin

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Speaker 5: that's all going to come into play. Also the water

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Speaker 5: content in your body. So the magic behind the massage

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Speaker 5: gun coupled with the red light is that as that

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Speaker 5: percussion device is hammering into your muscles, what it's doing

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Speaker 5: is it's compressing the tissue and digging it deep into

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Speaker 5: the muscle. So you're going to be able to deliver

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Speaker 5: more therapeutic wavelengths of light than any other product on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that definitely helps with muscle inflammation. And Bradley,

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Speaker 2: just looking at your Soulbasium products, you launch the world's

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Speaker 2: first read light therapy muscle roller, and you just launched

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Speaker 2: the Nova red light therapy bed. We have some products

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Speaker 2: here of yours today to talk about. I think we

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Speaker 2: have the ankle pad percussive device. So how do these

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Speaker 2: different devices aid recovery for athletes versus you know, just

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Speaker 2: taking an ice bath after you know they've worked out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's two different mechanisms between the ice bath

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Speaker 5: they use. So we've got multiple models. We have the ankle,

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Speaker 5: the knee, the universal pad, and the backpad, and they

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Speaker 5: all serve different purposes. Like let's say, for instance, an

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Speaker 5: or maybe they've broken their ankle. They can wear the

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Speaker 5: Selbasium red Light ankle pad and then they can accelerate

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Speaker 5: the time, the healing time for their injury. So that's

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Speaker 5: the first big thing, and especially with knees because in

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Speaker 5: the most from the athletic trainers, especially in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: What it's going to do is it's gonna heal those

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Speaker 5: Now for the full body bed, you can't I mean,

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Speaker 5: you can't heal the body with that, which it will

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Speaker 5: do that, but also it can enhance performance as well.

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Speaker 5: And what I always tell people is that especially in

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Speaker 5: what red light therapy can do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe Gunner canna be our van of White for

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Speaker 2: a second, and I'll have some of these.

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Speaker 3: Products to show us how they work.

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Speaker 4: Right, the pad here, uh, which you can see it's

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Speaker 4: all and the red left therapy goes there. And then

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Speaker 4: you have the percussive device which I go here and

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Speaker 4: it has not just one speed, but I can take

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Speaker 4: this up. It's probably good to get pretty loud on

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Speaker 4: your microphones. Nice wow. Right, so and the red light

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Speaker 4: the fact that to me that it's portable, and we

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Speaker 4: talked about oh yeah, we've talked about in the past,

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Speaker 4: how Bradley says any he schooled me on this prior

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Speaker 4: to a big lift, you can hit the target and

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Speaker 4: muscle group, right, and you're gonna brat you want to

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Speaker 4: expound on this, but you talk about prior to big

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Speaker 4: lists from a warm up standpoint, like, this is such

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Speaker 4: an easy carry for anybody to have in their gym

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Speaker 4: bag that's going to world now, even if it's not

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Speaker 4: a pro athlete, even if it's somebody who's a weekend

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Speaker 4: warrior who's trying to have a pr on a Saturday morning.

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Speaker 4: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: No, No, you're correct, Yeah, yeah, these are great for traveling. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So people and companies can find these products online at

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Speaker 2: Sylbasium dot com and Bradley I saw the two percent

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Speaker 2: of every purchase of these products go to towards the

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Speaker 2: National Pediatric Cancer Foundation.

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Speaker 5: Correct, that is correct. So it's something we started up,

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Speaker 5: was it two or three years ago? So, yeah, a

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Speaker 5: portion of each sale is given to them. We actually

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Speaker 5: gave our first contribution to them. When was it three

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Speaker 3: Nice, Yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously these products are very portable, but you know,

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Speaker 1: Well, Gunner and Bradley, thank you both so much for

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Speaker 1: being here today. And if it's a rainy day, you know,

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Speaker 2: Check out for more information on Soulbasium on their website.

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Speaker 3: And Red Light Therapy.

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Speaker 2: And thank you again both for being here with me

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