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Speaker 3: As you heard Rashaun Slater tackle Los Angeles Chargers. I

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Speaker 3: think there are a lot of people's dark horse here

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Speaker 3: for the year. Torn Pateller tendon was carted off today.

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Speaker 3: You know, listen, we like to start with the more upbeat,

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Speaker 3: fun things. But one, this is certainly the most newsworthy

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Speaker 3: thing of the day. Two, you know, you are probably

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Speaker 3: the best person to speak to about this here at

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio, so we can get into the impact

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Speaker 3: of Los Angeles Chargers, et cetera. But thirteen year NFL

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Speaker 3: Just your first reaction to hearing that news which just

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Speaker 3: broke here within the last.

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Speaker 4: Time literally during the update, I looked at you like,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, it is number one it's awful, of course,

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Speaker 4: I feel I feel extremely sorrowful for this young man

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Speaker 4: who is one of the bright stars on the offensive

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Speaker 4: line in the NFL. It every year we have these

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Speaker 4: type of injuries to teams in training camp. It just

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Speaker 4: lets you know how how aggressive I'll say, football is,

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Speaker 4: so when you have guys who don't feel like they're

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Speaker 4: being compensated the right way, they hold out to hold

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Speaker 4: in Now because of the fine system has changed, you

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Speaker 4: start to understand why. So less than a week ago,

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Speaker 4: this young man signed a four year extension FO one

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Speaker 4: hundred and fourteen million dollars and ninety two million guaranteed.

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Speaker 4: If he had not signed that contract seven days or

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Speaker 4: so ago, the numbers would be considerably different after sitting

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Speaker 4: out this whole year. And I just want to say

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Speaker 4: it like that to keep it in context for our

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Speaker 4: wonderful listeners who join us every day. This is it's

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Speaker 4: a business now. Most of our listeners are fans and

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Speaker 4: sports today. They want guys to show up and be

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Speaker 4: there for their teams. But it's a just a job,

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Speaker 4: one dred percent. And if you're being underpaid at your

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Speaker 4: a certain type of way. I understand what Michael Parsons

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Speaker 4: I understand what Terry McLaurin is going through because they

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Speaker 4: know that next day at practice tomorrow, yep, their season

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Speaker 4: could be over. And now negotiations take on a whole

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Speaker 5: And so.

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Speaker 4: As for the Chargers, we are a lot of high

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Speaker 4: it's this is one thing I can tell you for sure,

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Speaker 4: playing left tackle for many, many years in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: Right, So most teams don't have too high level left tackles.

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Speaker 4: Now you may have a swing guy who come in

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Speaker 4: You knew no matter what was going on. He was fine.

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Speaker 4: So when you're calling these offensive plays, you know, we

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Speaker 4: He can be on an island, he can shine, He's

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Speaker 4: So we can do some things and know that he

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Speaker 4: I got you. We're good, right, I've been there. I've

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Speaker 5: And that's what I call it.

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Speaker 4: The island. DB's have an island. Left tackles have an island.

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Speaker 4: My career being alone on an island and crying the

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Speaker 4: all right, even when we call this play, it's we're

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Speaker 3: And I think I already know the answer based on

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Speaker 3: everything you've said over the last couple of minutes. Chargers,

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Speaker 3: I think producer Rob told us they're going to try

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Speaker 4: So the great thing about them if they do decide

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Speaker 5: Everything was different.

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Speaker 4: Okay, it's like you're right handed, Sure, start writing with

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Speaker 6: Wow. And So that's that's where NIL is.

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Speaker 4: That's where the just Youth athletics itself is skewing to

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Speaker 4: watching them go into training camp at a small university

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Speaker 4: and sleeping in the dorm room, like I hate That's

436
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Speaker 4: the part.

437
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Speaker 5: I hate it.

438
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Speaker 4: Now later in my career, the teams I went to

439
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 4: you could stay at a Veterans can stay at home,

440
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 4: which makes all the difference in the world. Sleeping well,

441
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 4: there are only five teams still currently that leave and

442
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 4: go to train camp somewhere else interesting and just watching that.

443
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 4: In Atlanta, we used to go to Furman University. Oh god,

444
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 4: it's awful. And Denver. We used to go up to

445
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 4: northern Colorado in Greeley, Colorado, the manure capital of the world.

446
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 4: Imagine what that smelled like, twenty four hours a day.

447
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 4: And so the summer, it's just it was all of

448
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 4: these things that were like, oh, it's just tough. But

449
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Speaker 4: what I took from that is watching them coming in

450
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Speaker 4: and how could you not like Josh Allen?

451
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

452
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Speaker 4: How could you not like that guy? Sure, they like

453
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 4: him so much. They're building a stadium so the wind

454
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 4: later in the years doesn't hamper his abilities. Interesting, I

455
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 4: did't get to the end of hard knocks. That was

456
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Speaker 4: what I cut it off.

457
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Speaker 6: When they were touring the new facility.

458
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Speaker 4: They're taking a look at the state, and they explained,

459
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 4: you got to remember that game they played against New

460
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 4: England when they lost to mac Jones.

461
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Speaker 5: The wind was whipping all around. They couldn't even pass

462
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Speaker 5: the ball.

463
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: They're like, yeah, we're not gonna do that again. We're

464
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 4: not going to leave it up to that. Sure, and

465
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 4: so they went out and they're building this beautiful facility

466
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 4: that shields the field from the wind. Some of the

467
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: other elements like that. That's how important Josh Allen is

468
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 4: to this community, into this team. And he's you know,

469
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 4: a family man, just got married. He's just one of

470
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 4: those guys like I look at him and I'm like, man,

471
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 4: I would love to block for that guy.

472
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 6: Sure, you know, I love that.

473
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 5: He's a team guy.

474
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 4: He's great, came from the Mountain West, you know, played

475
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 4: at Wyoming. No star recruit turns into the league MVP.

476
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,719
Speaker 4: And so what they're doing. The first of all, they

477
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 4: have some of the most dynamic fans ever. Bill's Mafia's

478
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,119
Speaker 4: real thing. And they traveled. When I mentioned earlier, I

479
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 4: was over in London, I went to the Jacksonville I

480
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 4: was going to ask yeah, and Bill's Mafia was in effect.

481
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 5: They were.

482
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 4: They were deep in London. And so just the world

483
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 4: getting to see this unique team. And you know, it's

484
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 4: not a lot going on in Buffalo, New York. Sure, right,

485
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 4: not a destination, but they love, love, love the Bills. Uh.

486
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 4: And it's good to see the impact that Josh Hallen

487
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 4: has on on the community. Not only the community, but

488
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 4: the NFL and also Big Dan Dawkins had an opportunity

489
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 4: to meet him. We do a thing with the NFL.

490
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 4: My production company teamed up with the NFL and sky

491
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 4: Dance Sports and we put on this uh a four

492
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: day immersive for athletes who want for NFL players who

493
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 4: want to get into production and get to the the

494
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 4: entertainment business. And got a chance to meet Big Dawkins

495
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 4: and just watching him drive the drift car. Like I

496
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 4: love Hard Knocks because it lets you inside. It's kind

497
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 4: of under the helmet. You get to really know these

498
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 4: guys and it's not just about football and on the field.

499
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: I was on the first iteration. Really it was just

500
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 4: it's called training camp, I think on the NFL network

501
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 4: and it was with the Jacksonville Jaguars, and it was

502
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 4: they were just trying to see if this thing could

503
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: be something sure, and we were there and it was hilarious,

504
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 4: it was fun, and it turned into what it is now.

505
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 6: Well, and that was before everyone had cameras everywhere.

506
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, this this was like a real reality. Sure.

507
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 4: I remember after practice going in and seriously so it

508
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 4: was to see where it is now. I think it's

509
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 4: it's great for the fans. I think it's great for

510
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,719
Speaker 4: the league, and it's helped growing the overall brand.

511
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: So that is the glasses half full Hard Knocks Review.

512
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 3: Now to quote another real reality show, let's stop getting

513
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: polite and start getting real Buffalo Bills again.

514
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 6: You and I were on air during the.

515
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: AFC Championship game, and I certainly don't want to put

516
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 3: words in your mouth. I seem to remember as soon

517
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 3: as the Bills went for two right before halftime. If

518
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 3: you remember, they were down twenty one to ten, they

519
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 3: score a touchdown, it's twenty one to sixteen. They go

520
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: for two to cut it to three before the half

521
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: for reasons only known.

522
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Speaker 6: To Sean McDermott.

523
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Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna speak for you or what your

524
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 3: thought process was, but I vividly remember you saying he's

525
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: not coaching the way that he normally does. I'm worried,

526
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: and I bring it up because I truly do believe.

527
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: I think there are certain guys that are great in

528
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: the regular season, guys that are great in the postseason,

529
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: some guys that are great in both. I think he

530
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 3: coaches differently in the postseason. I think he's got a

531
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 3: Chiefs problem. I'm not convinced. And in the other part too.

532
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: Josh Allen's now twenty nine years old. I mean, how

533
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 3: many great years does he have left with the way

534
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: that he plays. I thought they should have moved off

535
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: Sean McDermott last year, multiple AFC Championship games. You can't

536
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: get over the humps, You can't beat the Chiefs. Where

537
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: do you stand on the state of things with this organization?

538
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: Knowing they've been on the doorstep? Can't get over the hump,

539
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: can't get past KC. But also quite a bit of

540
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 3: it is self inflicted by a lot of different variables.

541
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 3: But I would say Sean McDermott being number.

542
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 4: One, Yeah, it's hard to fire a coach that successful,

543
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 4: I know.

544
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 6: Right hot on January eighteenth.

545
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Speaker 4: Yeah, But because you're watching it and I'm looking, I'm like, oh,

546
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 4: oh no, it seems too big for him. Yes, if

547
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 4: you're playing a team like Kansas City and Patrick Mahomes

548
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 4: and Andy Ree, you almost got to be perfect, yes,

549
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 4: and not just the players, coaching decisions and all of

550
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 4: those things must be perfect. And when they're not, like

551
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 4: going for two for no reason and chasing points because

552
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 4: once you don't get that too, you're chasing that point. Yes,

553
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,239
Speaker 4: exactly what did it come down to to a two

554
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 4: to three point game?

555
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 5: Right?

556
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 4: And so you look think back and be like those

557
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 4: decisions early in the game have a profound effect on

558
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 4: the outcome in a negative way for you. And if

559
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 4: you can't see that as the head coach, then I'm like, oh,

560
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 4: this seems too big for him. Yes, And you know,

561
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 4: it's hard to fire a coach that can get you

562
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: to the NFC our AFC Championship game. It's hard to

563
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 4: just be like, you know what, enough is enough because

564
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 4: who do you replace them with?

565
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Speaker 3: Well, I think Joe Brady's going to be a head

566
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: coach at some point, and I don't know if he's

567
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: good enough.

568
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 6: I know that.

569
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Speaker 3: And here's the other thing. So, first of all, it

570
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 3: was a three point game. It is worth noting, by

571
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: the way, because I remember this stat being a thing

572
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 3: while we were on air. They went for it on

573
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: fourth down six times.

574
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 5: I couldn't believe they were doing that.

575
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Speaker 3: Yes, six times they went for it on fourth down

576
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: push and they didn't not execute it. And they do

577
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: it and we were watching it. I'm like, what is

578
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 3: happening right now? And you brought up a great point.

579
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 3: You said, Josh Allen doesn't look comfortable, he's so big.

580
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 3: What makes Jalen Hurts so unique at it is that

581
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Speaker 3: I don't know what is he six' one sixty two

582
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: but he's not six.' six, BUT yeah, i mean you

583
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 3: know they they end up losing. By three they're chasing.

584
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Speaker 5: That.

585
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Speaker 3: Point Uh The Kansas, city chiefs by, the way uh

586
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: kicked a field goal up twenty nine to. Twenty nine

587
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: you know if you had, that point it would have

588
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: been twenty. ONE seventeen i can't do all the math

589
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: off the top of, my head but it ended up,

590
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 3: costing them even though the quote unquote.

591
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 4: Lous what happens when you give up points? Like that

592
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: you we see it happened to all.

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Speaker 3: The TIME can i jump in really because it was

594
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Speaker 3: right before halftime TO and i vividly remember both, of

595
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 3: us but certainly you haven't played like you?

596
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Speaker 6: Know what that how much.

597
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: Energy because you just scored a touchdown right before the

598
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Speaker 3: half and all all you.

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Speaker 5: Gotta do is? Kill, me yep but?

600
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 4: Go ahead it. Changes everything that momentum. Changes everything going

601
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: in after doing something positive and having a. Negative effect

602
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 4: it's like scoring a touchdown and giving up a touchdown

603
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 4: on a. Kickoff, return, yep right scoring, a touchdown missing the,

604
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 4: extra point scoring, a touchdown going for two and not

605
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 4: getting it you take the energy out of, the room

606
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 4: and that that's the energy you.

607
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 5: Want to go into the locker.

608
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: Room with on been in games where we've had a,

609
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 4: big turnover we've caused the big turnover and scored going

610
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 4: into a into half in the game that WERE Behind

611
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 4: nfc championship game in ninety eight Against, the vikings they

612
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 4: were really giving it. To us we get, a, sack fumble.

613
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 4: We score now we're going into the locker room down

614
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 4: less than. A touchdown we knew we had them at, that,

615
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: Moment right and so it's those types of things. Going

616
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: forward with the touch push six times it's. Not necessary

617
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 4: and when you're pushing and pushing and pushing as, a

618
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 4: player it's difficult enough because that's when, interceptions happens that's when.

619
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Speaker 4: Fumbles happens but from a, coaching standpoint when you don't

620
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 4: PUT your mvp in a situation for him to, be

621
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Speaker 4: successful then the oness is.

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Speaker 5: On you