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Speaker 2: Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 3: Hey, welcome to Good Morning Football, presented by Old Trapper

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Speaker 3: Beef Jerky live in New York City. It's Tuesday, October third.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jamior at All. There's Kyle Brandt, There's Peter Scheger,

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Speaker 3: there is Jason.

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Speaker 1: Mccordy, Here's mc daniel Jones, and the reigning Coach of

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Speaker 1: the Year, Brian Davill said, after losing by three touchdowns

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Speaker 1: at home, if.

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Speaker 4: They showed someone from Linden, I would have said lind.

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Speaker 5: Didn't play well enough. It was unacceptable and I let

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Speaker 5: the team down. So I've got to I've gotta fix it.

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Speaker 5: I gotta work hard to get it right, and I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna do that. No one expected this to be where

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Speaker 5: we were where we are, so yeah, there's some shock,

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Speaker 5: but at the end of the day, it's about what

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Speaker 5: we do from here and getting things corrected, playing better football.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like this season is starting spiral a

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Speaker 1: little bit on you guys.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's the first quarter of the season. There's a

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Speaker 6: long way to go, but certainly a lot of things

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Speaker 6: we got to do better. Yeah, I'd be upset too

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Speaker 6: if I was a fan. So there's a lot of

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Speaker 6: things we got to do better, and that's what we'll

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Speaker 6: try to do.

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Speaker 3: Relating to the fans. Very helpful. Tough night for the Giants.

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Speaker 3: The next few weeks though the gas pedal, let's just

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Speaker 3: say it doesn't let up whatsoever. Giants go on the

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Speaker 3: road against the Dolphins and the Bills, and then they

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Speaker 3: have to host the Commanders, who seem to be playing

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Speaker 3: everybody tough right now, and then the MetLife matchup. They

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Speaker 3: have to play the Jets in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Since Week eight and of October, Ian Rackport told us

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Speaker 3: yesterday safe one Barklay has a realistic chance to play

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Speaker 3: in week five after he suffered that ankle injury against

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals two weeks ago. He was out against the

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers, he was out last night. Hopefully he's

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Speaker 3: back for the Giants. Is that what the Giants need

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Speaker 3: to turn things around? I guess, Peter, what could be

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Speaker 3: the key factor here to help the Giants out? Or

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Speaker 3: if you want to talk to Heahawks, you do that too.

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Speaker 7: Religion, faith, prayer, prayer, the Almighty, the Almighty. I don't

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Speaker 7: know Sequon's are running back, and we've learned that, Like,

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Speaker 7: he's a great player. But I don't know if you

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Speaker 7: dropped Saquon onto the field last night, the Giants are

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Speaker 7: suddenly winning it. They got sacked eleven times. Saquon's not

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Speaker 7: playing left tackle. That's Andrew Thomas, who's also injured by

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Speaker 7: a chance.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're a.

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Speaker 7: Giants fan, you look at that schedule. We're going down

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Speaker 7: to Miami in the heat. Miami has one of the

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Speaker 7: most electric offenses in the league. They're going to score points,

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Speaker 7: and then it's like, Okay, can the Giants offense somehow

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Speaker 4: I don't see.

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Speaker 1: Let's personalize this few Okay, grew up in the area

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Speaker 1: Giants guy, and more recently, you were the only one

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Speaker 1: amongst us you can pick the New York Giants to

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Speaker 1: go to the playoffs. So what has changed in the

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Speaker 1: last month from your expectations to that terrible product sol

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Speaker 1: last night.

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Speaker 7: I have a lot of remorse in making that pick

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Speaker 7: looking at the product we've seen. They had an eleven

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Speaker 7: day break between the forty nine ers game, which is

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Speaker 7: an understandable loss. Still got embarrassed thirty twelve month prime

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Speaker 7: time and beat an eleven day break to prepare for

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Speaker 7: a Seahawks.

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Speaker 4: Team that lost to the Rams in Week one. And

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Speaker 4: this Seahawks.

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Speaker 7: Team, I think it was Sean O'Hara, our dear friend

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Speaker 7: said their defense hasn't looked as good since they won

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Speaker 7: the Super Bowl against Denver and another Manning brother against Peyton.

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Speaker 7: It was done in jest because Peyton was on the broadcast,

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Speaker 7: But like I mean this, I haven't seen this since

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Speaker 7: the Legion of Boone stuff. And I'm not saying that,

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Speaker 7: but I did see Andy Dalton throw all over this

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Speaker 7: that they suddenly ran into the seventy eight Steelers. No,

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Speaker 7: this is a problem for the Giants. Couldn't protect Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 7: He got sacked eleven times. He looked inept. You go

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Speaker 7: to the sideline, the coach is throwing a tablet at

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Speaker 7: his feet, and Daniel Jones doesn't have a flicker of

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Speaker 7: a motion back. I don't see how they're suddenly going

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Speaker 4: I don't where do you go from here?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I look back on it, and I.

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Speaker 7: Did say that they are a playoff team, and I

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Speaker 2: Why because of Jones?

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Speaker 4: If they had the coach of the year and they

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Speaker 4: were won a road playoff.

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Speaker 7: Game last year, and they picked up apparently a guy

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Speaker 4: And Paris Campbell was supposed to be something.

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Speaker 7: And oh yeah, they also got these defensive players in

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Speaker 7: the draft that we were supposed to hear from. Deontae

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Speaker 7: we haven't seen it.

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Speaker 2: So I was wrong.

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Speaker 7: They're probably not going to the playoffs. I know that

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Speaker 7: they can make a run here, but I don't think

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Speaker 7: Saquan's a difference. I think it's an entire organizational thing

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Speaker 7: right now. And you get sacked eleven times after you

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Speaker 7: have an eleven day break to prepare, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't see where to go from here.

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Speaker 7: I will say this, when the Giants were haggling with

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Speaker 7: Daniel Jones and he fired his old agents at CAA,

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Speaker 7: and he hired athletes first, and it never felt like

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Speaker 7: the Giants were dying to pay them. And is that

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Speaker 7: ever a good thing when you're put in a corner

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Speaker 7: and you're like, we have.

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Speaker 2: To pay him, Fine, we will.

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Speaker 4: Here we are eight months later.

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Speaker 7: Does it look like the Giants were ecstatic at the

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: And are the Giants fans now ecstatic that they paid him.

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Speaker 4: Probably not, So we'll see where it goes.

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Speaker 2: But seventy eight bucks a game in the ninet everywhere.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and the Giants offensive line, there's a lot offensive

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Speaker 7: lines were banged up.

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Speaker 4: It's not just the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: In defense of that playoff road win against the Vikings,

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Speaker 3: that team, I think, like the twenty twenty two Vikings

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Speaker 3: at home. I don't think they were like this team

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Speaker 3: that was like the proof is in the pudding that

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Speaker 3: if we beat the Vikings, like that's it. They were,

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Speaker 3: you know, kind of real quick.

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Speaker 7: You talk about the Giants and like, don't pay real quick,

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Speaker 7: just go yeah, Well they're one and seven on Monday

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Speaker 7: night with Daniel Jones, you talked about last year's loss

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Speaker 7: was a liar for like the the last year's season

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Speaker 7: for the Vikings is a liar like some when it's

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Speaker 4: They've been outscored by eighty two points on just Monday

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Speaker 4: Nights football. So the nation sees you, and you guys

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Speaker 4: can't wait.

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Speaker 7: Like again, I'll give you the San Francisco on but

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Speaker 7: the two big games for them, the Cowboys beat them

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Speaker 4: So I'm just like.

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Speaker 2: All the talk coming from the Giants this week was

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Speaker 2: fast start. We got to get to a fast things.

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Speaker 2: First half's been terrible.

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Speaker 8: It was the worst.

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Speaker 7: They haven't been good since that first drive when they

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Speaker 7: They marched right down the field against the Cowboys Andrew

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Speaker 4: Sorry I sound like a talk radio I.

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Speaker 7: Just I watched the pot Giants game and I followed

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Speaker 8: Height.

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Speaker 9: OK, I hear you say Daniel Jones changing representation, get

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Speaker 9: paid Daniel Jones because so far it hasn't looked great.

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Speaker 9: But the fact that he did get his money and

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Speaker 9: he did perform last year, and I'm not going to

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Speaker 9: discredit their last season. You look at Ryan Dable comes

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Speaker 8: That is huge.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, who kind.

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Speaker 9: Of was a failure in fans eyes, he gets under

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Speaker 9: Dable and has.

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Speaker 4: A really good year last year.

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Speaker 9: Now the issue of the challenge is coming off a

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Speaker 9: good year. The first good year is can you back

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Speaker 9: quarterback and this year there's been no answers. But on

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Speaker 9: top of that, you talked about the eleven sacks. They

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Speaker 9: haven't been able to hold up as an offensive line.

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Speaker 9: Last year, we gave Daniel Jones a ton of credit

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Speaker 9: because there weren't a lot of weapons around him. And

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Speaker 9: now this year, yes, they go out and get Darren

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Speaker 9: Waller and you mentioned Paris Campbell, but you still look

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Speaker 9: at that Giants offense out there. You remove Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 2: Is there anybody out.

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Speaker 9: There You're like, my goodness, like, we got a game

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Speaker 9: plan around this guy. So you're looking at a similar

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Speaker 9: making a ton of pillays. You didn't want to even

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Speaker 9: pay Saquon Barkley this last year, and now here we

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Speaker 9: are asking, well, if Saquon Barkley comes back, could the

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Speaker 9: Giants offense blah blah blah. Segon Barkley may be like,

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Speaker 9: you know what, I'm go ahead and rest his ankle

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Speaker 9: a little bit more and make sure I'm healthy enough

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Speaker 9: to try to get a contract this offseason. It's just

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Speaker 9: not fun out there for the New York it's not.

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Speaker 1: And this was supposed to be the New York season Jets,

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Speaker 1: Johns and where finally were celebrating. Back in the day,

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Speaker 1: Conan used to have this bit called the Curse of

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Speaker 1: Cocun where all these people from the movie Cocun were

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Speaker 1: dying and he was tracking it. But that's because they

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Speaker 1: were so old at the time they were signing in

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Speaker 1: national costs. It was a bit is there, like a

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Speaker 1: curse of the Coach of the Year, like I've just

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Speaker 1: been tracking this. Some of these guys, all right, Matt

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Speaker 1: Naggie wins it. The Bears go twelve and four. If

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Speaker 1: it looks fifty years ago, Kevin Stefanski wins it. They

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Speaker 1: haven't been back since. Mike Rabel wins a couple year ago.

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Speaker 1: Last year was terrible for the Titans. This year, we'll see,

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Speaker 1: and now Brian Dables shows up and it's this terrible,

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Speaker 1: terrible set. A lot of times, coach of the year,

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Speaker 1: you shot out of a cannon and play a week schedule.

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Speaker 2: You catch everybody off guard.

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Speaker 1: In that second year, the schedule's tough, nobody's surprised.

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Speaker 1: Are we reaching a point when Brian Dabelho was like,

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Speaker 7: We want to just be like, but when you're losing

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Speaker 10: In other news, Steelers quarterback Kenny Pickett suffered a bone

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Speaker 3: He doesn't sleep. Let's bring it back into town in

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Speaker 11: It, and from my understanding, Rodney this morning handled everything

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Speaker 3: That is indeed true. But it was an odd response

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Speaker 7: He's confident quarterback and there's a chance there's a glimmer

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Speaker 7: Like I thought, the differences between Daniel Jones last night

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Speaker 7: after the game, everyone slumped shoulders.

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Speaker 7: Down eight points, took this team right down the field,

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Speaker 4: I can do it.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, the drive you showed, the two pass to the

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Speaker 9: There are more victories than all of that, this, that

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Speaker 9: Maybe I can manage the game and get our team

437
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Speaker 9: to a few wins, whatever that may come of it.

438
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Speaker 9: I think it was a huge night for him to

439
00:17:59,548 --> 00:18:01,028
Speaker 9: just be able to look in the mirror after a

440
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Speaker 9: game and say, you know what, I'm not a punching

441
00:18:03,028 --> 00:18:06,188
Speaker 9: back tomorrow. I actually did perform, and my teammates they

442
00:18:06,228 --> 00:18:08,428
Speaker 9: feel that around me, and I think it'll carry over.

443
00:18:08,628 --> 00:18:10,628
Speaker 2: He would look in the mirror and say, do I suck?

444
00:18:11,188 --> 00:18:11,908
Speaker 3: That's what he said.

445
00:18:12,588 --> 00:18:14,748
Speaker 9: I remember Tua said it and if TU was saying

446
00:18:14,748 --> 00:18:17,068
Speaker 9: it where there were glimpses, we haven't really seen a

447
00:18:17,108 --> 00:18:18,868
Speaker 9: glimpse of Zach Wilson until Sunday night.

448
00:18:18,948 --> 00:18:20,748
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do it all the time after the show too.

449
00:18:20,828 --> 00:18:22,268
Speaker 2: It sucks. You gotta do it sometimes.

450
00:18:22,348 --> 00:18:25,668
Speaker 1: Yes, yesterday I came out and was not as impressed

451
00:18:25,708 --> 00:18:28,268
Speaker 1: with Zach Wilson as everybody else seemingly is, And twenty

452
00:18:28,308 --> 00:18:31,028
Speaker 1: four hours later I feel the same way. But there's

453
00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:33,228
Speaker 1: something with the media thing, the Rodney Harrison thing taps

454
00:18:33,268 --> 00:18:36,988
Speaker 1: into there's a New York mentality, which is like, we

455
00:18:37,108 --> 00:18:40,428
Speaker 1: can bash our quarterback, like we can get after him

456
00:18:40,428 --> 00:18:42,788
Speaker 1: he is one of us, but the second someone else

457
00:18:42,908 --> 00:18:44,788
Speaker 1: does it, all of a sudden, we have his back.

458
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Speaker 2: Yes, it's kind of a hard thing to explain, like

459
00:18:46,668 --> 00:18:48,468
Speaker 2: it's a New York true like we.

460
00:18:48,428 --> 00:18:50,868
Speaker 1: Will carve up all these athletes that are New Yorkers,

461
00:18:50,868 --> 00:18:53,828
Speaker 1: but like, second, somebody from Philly or La or Boston's

462
00:18:54,028 --> 00:18:55,748
Speaker 1: and then it's our guy. I've seen it happen with

463
00:18:55,748 --> 00:18:57,748
Speaker 1: a million guys. And there's a sympathy for Zach Wilson.

464
00:18:57,828 --> 00:19:00,948
Speaker 1: Now let's just talk in bottom lines. Though I'm not

465
00:19:00,988 --> 00:19:03,828
Speaker 1: really terribly interested in his feelings or his confidence there,

466
00:19:03,828 --> 00:19:06,028
Speaker 1: his conversations, can are we going to get the deaths

467
00:19:06,028 --> 00:19:08,108
Speaker 1: to a wildcard this year? Is that gonna possibly happen?

468
00:19:08,228 --> 00:19:10,428
Speaker 2: Is all? Does anybody else anything else matter? They're one

469
00:19:10,428 --> 00:19:10,908
Speaker 2: and three?

470
00:19:11,228 --> 00:19:13,348
Speaker 1: You know they lost, They scored twenty points. He fumbled

471
00:19:13,348 --> 00:19:14,828
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. They kind of blew it.

472
00:19:15,348 --> 00:19:17,188
Speaker 1: I figured, you gotta go nine and four of the

473
00:19:17,228 --> 00:19:18,508
Speaker 1: rest of the way if you're gonna get sniffing a

474
00:19:18,548 --> 00:19:19,468
Speaker 1: FFC wildcard.

475
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Speaker 9: That it's not an expectation for Zach Wilson led Jets.

476
00:19:22,108 --> 00:19:22,548
Speaker 2: So it's over.

477
00:19:22,868 --> 00:19:24,908
Speaker 9: No, they're not making the playoffs with Zak Wilson as the.

478
00:19:24,948 --> 00:19:26,548
Speaker 2: Okay, so then what do we care? And what are

479
00:19:26,548 --> 00:19:28,948
Speaker 2: we talking about? Like I don't even understand the substance

480
00:19:28,988 --> 00:19:29,308
Speaker 2: of the top.

481
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Speaker 3: He goes no matter what you're looking at him as

482
00:19:32,108 --> 00:19:32,708
Speaker 3: we still.

483
00:19:32,468 --> 00:19:35,068
Speaker 7: Have Jets on Prime time four times. Yeah, one season,

484
00:19:35,108 --> 00:19:36,948
Speaker 7: the Jets still had all this hope. And even if

485
00:19:37,028 --> 00:19:39,268
Speaker 7: Rodgers doesn't come back for next year, if they can compete,

486
00:19:39,308 --> 00:19:41,028
Speaker 7: that's a team worth watching. I remember when Viny went

487
00:19:41,068 --> 00:19:43,148
Speaker 7: down and they stuck with rick Meyer, they stuck over.

488
00:19:43,508 --> 00:19:45,908
Speaker 7: Finally Ray Lucas, Rutgers guy, came in and they started

489
00:19:45,908 --> 00:19:47,788
Speaker 7: winning games, and like Jets fans talk about that season

490
00:19:47,788 --> 00:19:49,868
Speaker 7: they missed the playoffs, that's one of their favorite seasons

491
00:19:49,908 --> 00:19:51,588
Speaker 7: ever because no one believed in them and they still

492
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Speaker 7: found a way to finish the season strong.

493
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Speaker 1: Well, that's that's very sad to me. That's one of

494
00:19:55,548 --> 00:19:57,308
Speaker 1: their favorite seasons ever. He'd even to make the playoffs.

495
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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, what are we talking about?

496
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Speaker 9: Lucas?

497
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Speaker 1: I like Ray Lucas too, He's got an incredible personal story.

498
00:20:03,268 --> 00:20:06,268
Speaker 2: But I'm still little bit lost. We're all saying, oh,

499
00:20:06,308 --> 00:20:09,148
Speaker 2: they're done, they're not making the playoffs. They compete, they

500
00:20:09,188 --> 00:20:10,788
Speaker 2: will be on television. Okay.

501
00:20:10,868 --> 00:20:13,788
Speaker 9: I thought that was going to inspire you where you're like, oh, that's.

502
00:20:13,588 --> 00:20:14,988
Speaker 2: Pretty damn same. I don't know.

503
00:20:15,268 --> 00:20:17,868
Speaker 1: Listen, Like I just I don't have the time to

504
00:20:17,948 --> 00:20:20,028
Speaker 1: be asked and be like, maybe if we want to

505
00:20:20,068 --> 00:20:24,228
Speaker 1: have a conversation about listen, the schedules coming up. They

506
00:20:24,268 --> 00:20:27,148
Speaker 1: got the Giants. They're terrible Bronco Like, there's some teams

507
00:20:27,188 --> 00:20:29,188
Speaker 1: that they could beat. And if you're sitting here and like,

508
00:20:29,268 --> 00:20:32,188
Speaker 1: oh my god, they're four and four, fine, like, but

509
00:20:32,388 --> 00:20:34,588
Speaker 1: there's thirty two teams to cover. Guys like I'd rather

510
00:20:34,628 --> 00:20:36,588
Speaker 1: talk about the Texans than the Jets. If you're not

511
00:20:36,748 --> 00:20:39,788
Speaker 1: relevant and you're not winning, we only got three hours,

512
00:20:39,868 --> 00:20:43,508
Speaker 1: so kindly step aside, all due respect to your good

513
00:20:43,508 --> 00:20:44,428
Speaker 1: will story and all that.

514
00:20:44,508 --> 00:20:46,428
Speaker 2: Like we're a national show, so.

515
00:20:46,508 --> 00:20:49,548
Speaker 1: I would must rather talk about the Bleeping Commanders, who

516
00:20:49,628 --> 00:20:51,108
Speaker 1: have like won a couple of games this year. So

517
00:20:52,148 --> 00:20:54,548
Speaker 1: my bottom line is, can you win a game? If

518
00:20:54,588 --> 00:20:56,828
Speaker 1: you beat Denver, then like you're snapping a three game

519
00:20:56,948 --> 00:20:59,748
Speaker 1: losing streak, and then like we got something here. But

520
00:20:59,828 --> 00:21:02,228
Speaker 1: until they actually win, not tried better, not have a

521
00:21:02,228 --> 00:21:05,068
Speaker 1: good attitude, not feel good, and the mirror afterwards, I

522
00:21:05,068 --> 00:21:06,388
Speaker 1: think he's win the game.

523
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Speaker 7: A lot of people at homes now who don't live

524
00:21:08,988 --> 00:21:10,348
Speaker 7: in the seven three to two, nine.

525
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Speaker 2: Eight, five six area.

526
00:21:11,828 --> 00:21:13,908
Speaker 1: But I feel like there's also Listen to me, there

527
00:21:13,988 --> 00:21:17,188
Speaker 1: was some sort of beautiful infomercial for Zach Wilson the

528
00:21:17,188 --> 00:21:17,748
Speaker 1: other I'm.

529
00:21:17,588 --> 00:21:19,508
Speaker 4: Like, whoa this guy?

530
00:21:19,588 --> 00:21:21,508
Speaker 2: He can throw? Yeah, he's a third year of pro

531
00:21:21,548 --> 00:21:23,388
Speaker 2: he's a second overall pick. Of course he can throw.

532
00:21:23,588 --> 00:21:26,268
Speaker 1: It's a little patronizing to me. So he played really

533
00:21:26,308 --> 00:21:29,828
Speaker 1: well until they win. Jamie ordall the Jets to me

534
00:21:29,948 --> 00:21:31,228
Speaker 1: or we got other things.

535
00:21:31,068 --> 00:21:31,628
Speaker 8: To talk about.

536
00:21:31,828 --> 00:21:34,188
Speaker 3: So you have to win to lead the hour on

537
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Speaker 3: Good Morning.

538
00:21:34,748 --> 00:21:36,908
Speaker 2: I would think you, Yeah, so what do we get through.

539
00:21:36,788 --> 00:21:38,948
Speaker 3: The first two hours of the show talking about the Giants?

540
00:21:39,108 --> 00:21:41,028
Speaker 2: We're talking about the Seahawks. Oh, that's right, we're talking

541
00:21:41,068 --> 00:21:44,268
Speaker 2: about my bad. Yeah, I managed until they went.

542
00:21:44,348 --> 00:21:46,868
Speaker 3: Why not just like straight up evaluate him for the

543
00:21:46,868 --> 00:21:48,908
Speaker 3: rest of the season, so you know what you're getting

544
00:21:48,988 --> 00:21:51,628
Speaker 3: if you're a Jets person for the next couple of years.

545
00:21:51,668 --> 00:21:53,748
Speaker 3: Can that be the argument to care about whether or

546
00:21:53,748 --> 00:21:55,908
Speaker 3: not he's doing good or man already?

547
00:21:55,948 --> 00:21:58,628
Speaker 2: No, we hopefully we never say the word Zach Wilson

548
00:21:58,628 --> 00:22:00,148
Speaker 2: again after this year. Never.

549
00:22:00,468 --> 00:22:02,828
Speaker 1: Never, It's Rogers next year. It's a it's a shame

550
00:22:02,868 --> 00:22:05,908
Speaker 1: that we're saying it this year. This is not happy story, Peter.

551
00:22:05,948 --> 00:22:08,268
Speaker 12: You're working hard over there, like you see my facial

552
00:22:08,308 --> 00:22:12,228
Speaker 12: expressions like that, because I played well, This is great.

553
00:22:12,588 --> 00:22:14,428
Speaker 2: What do you want to cookie for you?

554
00:22:14,708 --> 00:22:16,988
Speaker 4: We found our backup quarterback.

555
00:22:16,668 --> 00:22:18,588
Speaker 3: I don't even know if that's true, and gave Peter

556
00:22:18,748 --> 00:22:20,588
Speaker 3: everything he wanted out of Daniel Jones on Monday Night,

557
00:22:20,588 --> 00:22:22,548
Speaker 3: which was he played well and he showed some emotions,

558
00:22:22,548 --> 00:22:23,348
Speaker 3: a little bit of emotion.

559
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Speaker 7: Zach was bummed, he was upsett he fumbled the ball

560
00:22:25,668 --> 00:22:26,708
Speaker 7: took some accountability.

561
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Speaker 2: I'm watching Daniel.

562
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Speaker 4: Jones last night.

563
00:22:29,428 --> 00:22:30,148
Speaker 2: That's wonderful.

564
00:22:32,148 --> 00:22:34,588
Speaker 7: The Jets are like, all right, we got a guy.

565
00:22:34,548 --> 00:22:36,588
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we keep scoring this league like that's that's

566
00:22:36,628 --> 00:22:38,348
Speaker 1: the way it works.

567
00:22:38,588 --> 00:22:39,708
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it the scoreboard.

568
00:22:39,868 --> 00:22:42,948
Speaker 3: Yeah, come up with your Texans and Commander stopic and

569
00:22:42,988 --> 00:22:43,828
Speaker 3: let us know what it is.

570
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Speaker 1: Sure great, I'd rather talk about their wrecking quarterback right now.

571
00:22:48,068 --> 00:22:53,628
Speaker 1: Like then, the jack will guys winning the racket again.

572
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Speaker 10: In the shotgun throws and it's intercepted by Malcolm Jenkins

573
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Speaker 10: and Malcolm Jenkins first in the NFL Man.

574
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Speaker 2: It goes back again.

575
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Speaker 1: He steps up, he's being righted pin in.

576
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Speaker 2: He's pick off. I've won it all the way up

577
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Speaker 2: for a touchdown.

578
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Speaker 13: It's Jacobs to bring it from the other side. He's

579
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Speaker 13: under pressure, rolling out to his right. He's gonna throw

580
00:23:18,308 --> 00:23:20,468
Speaker 13: a ball up in the air. Then that ball's gonna

581
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Speaker 13: be picked off. Malcolm Jenkins gets in on the fun

582
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Speaker 13: and go and take yourselves a photograph in the inside

583
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Speaker 13: dress luck the boy's best.

584
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Speaker 9: Our next guest is a special one for me. Back

585
00:23:36,068 --> 00:23:38,348
Speaker 9: in two thousand and five, we were playing together in

586
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Speaker 9: a high school all star game. The Governor's Bowl in

587
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Speaker 9: New York versus New Jersey. Now we're sitting at the

588
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Speaker 9: breakfast table. Thirteen years in the NFL, two time Super

589
00:23:47,748 --> 00:23:51,748
Speaker 9: Bowl champion, a legend in both New Orleans and in Philly.

590
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Speaker 9: Please welcome to the table, Malcolm Jenkins.

591
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Speaker 2: Look at you.

592
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Speaker 12: Appreciate you guys having me. It's been thirteen years.

593
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Speaker 2: For you too, right, yeah, yeah, at thirteen. Yeah, it

594
00:24:01,868 --> 00:24:03,868
Speaker 2: was a great run. You look good.

595
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Speaker 9: You look I'm still you know, we do a segment

596
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Speaker 9: called the fit Liss.

597
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Speaker 8: This would be on there for.

598
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Speaker 2: All the right reasons.

599
00:24:09,468 --> 00:24:09,988
Speaker 8: I appreciate it.

600
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Speaker 9: So I appreciate that. But you retired a year and

601
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Speaker 9: a half. Now, I know you've been the business man

602
00:24:14,508 --> 00:24:15,308
Speaker 9: while you were playing.

603
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Speaker 2: What have you been up to?

604
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Speaker 12: You know, for the first year, last year, I kind

605
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Speaker 12: of stayed close to the game. I almost ended up

606
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Speaker 12: coming back to the Eagles and they got some injuries

607
00:24:23,668 --> 00:24:26,308
Speaker 12: late in the year. But the last year I really

608
00:24:26,348 --> 00:24:28,788
Speaker 12: just stepped away from the game. I've been traveling a lot,

609
00:24:29,108 --> 00:24:31,388
Speaker 12: been collecting art, hanging out with artists, just kind of

610
00:24:31,428 --> 00:24:33,868
Speaker 12: getting away from, you know, the sport you've been playing

611
00:24:33,908 --> 00:24:36,148
Speaker 12: since you're seven years old, and so I'm trying to,

612
00:24:36,228 --> 00:24:37,988
Speaker 12: you know, just kind of give it a little bit

613
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Speaker 12: of a break, but still running my businesses, doing my foundation,

614
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Speaker 12: spend a lot of time with my kids, you know,

615
00:24:43,628 --> 00:24:45,828
Speaker 12: and that's and obviously writing this book has been the

616
00:24:45,828 --> 00:24:48,508
Speaker 12: biggest thing. What winner is going to tell you dropped today?

617
00:24:48,548 --> 00:24:52,028
Speaker 12: I wrote a memoir that was I started writing it

618
00:24:52,148 --> 00:24:54,948
Speaker 12: while I was playing those last couple of years, knowing that, Okay,

619
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Speaker 12: my career is about to come to an end. How

620
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Speaker 12: do I contextualize this and really showcase the behind the scenes,

621
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Speaker 12: you know, of that thirteen year your career.

622
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Speaker 2: So you mentioned it an author? You want the fit list?

623
00:25:05,788 --> 00:25:10,068
Speaker 2: Look at this guy right here, vulnerable, shirtless.

624
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Speaker 1: All business won't tell you lessons from a legendary defender.

625
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Speaker 2: We have a lot of questions about this, Malcolm.

626
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Speaker 1: First of all, down on the bottom of the cover,

627
00:25:18,388 --> 00:25:20,068
Speaker 1: it says forward by Tom Brady.

628
00:25:20,708 --> 00:25:22,268
Speaker 2: Brady's a super busy gut reflex.

629
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Speaker 1: How do you go and say, like, Tom, take time

630
00:25:25,148 --> 00:25:27,268
Speaker 1: out of your day and write a forward from my book?

631
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Speaker 2: What's that like?

632
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Speaker 8: Yeah? So you know, it's interesting one.

633
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Speaker 12: I had been trolling Tom for a few years about

634
00:25:32,748 --> 00:25:36,028
Speaker 12: that Super Bowl, so I asked him, was a little

635
00:25:36,108 --> 00:25:39,108
Speaker 12: you know it was a little iffy, but I didn't

636
00:25:39,148 --> 00:25:40,588
Speaker 12: even have his number. I'm like, hey, how do I

637
00:25:40,628 --> 00:25:43,748
Speaker 12: get in touch with with Tom? And Devin actually was like, hey,

638
00:25:43,788 --> 00:25:46,708
Speaker 12: Tom replies to his ig way more than he does

639
00:25:46,748 --> 00:25:50,628
Speaker 12: a text me. So I DM him and he replied,

640
00:25:50,748 --> 00:25:52,348
Speaker 12: and so I'm like, hey, you know, I would love

641
00:25:52,348 --> 00:25:54,468
Speaker 12: for you to write the forward, and he obviously, you know,

642
00:25:54,508 --> 00:25:57,708
Speaker 12: blessed it. When I'm writing a title is legendary defenders,

643
00:25:57,748 --> 00:26:00,588
Speaker 12: like who better than your favorite opponent? And obviously I

644
00:26:00,668 --> 00:26:02,228
Speaker 12: got a lot of respect for Tom who he is.

645
00:26:02,268 --> 00:26:04,308
Speaker 12: I think he's the goat, So to have him kind

646
00:26:04,308 --> 00:26:06,508
Speaker 12: of blessed the foreward was definitely definitely the cherry on

647
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Speaker 12: top well.

648
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Speaker 3: And for him to set the table for the title.

649
00:26:08,748 --> 00:26:10,628
Speaker 3: What winners won't tell you? To have both of your

650
00:26:10,708 --> 00:26:12,548
Speaker 3: names on the cover of that book. That's so cool

651
00:26:12,588 --> 00:26:14,828
Speaker 3: for you. I know you said you stepped away from

652
00:26:14,828 --> 00:26:16,148
Speaker 3: the game a little bit, but you're still watching it

653
00:26:16,228 --> 00:26:17,628
Speaker 3: enough that we want to ask about the Eagles. Can

654
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Speaker 3: we do that?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 12: Cool.

658
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Speaker 3: They're one of two teams still remain undefeated in the NFL,

659
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Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers being the other one. But their

660
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Speaker 3: four and oh feels odd. To us at times we

661
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Speaker 3: say on the table like, pardon our dust a little bit.

662
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Speaker 3: As the Eagles have won some of these games, what

663
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Speaker 3: is your stance on the difference between teams that are

664
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Speaker 3: winning games versus dominating the teams that they're playing.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I don't know when Philly got so used to

666
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Speaker 12: style points.

667
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Speaker 8: Is We're a blue collar city.

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Speaker 12: It's like the only thing that matters are wins, right

669
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Speaker 12: when when we look back at the season, we don't

670
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Speaker 12: look at how many points you scored or what the

671
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Speaker 12: difference was. And I think they're actually in a good

672
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Speaker 12: place coming off of a super Bowl. The hardest thing

673
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Speaker 12: to do is flush last season. So when you're winning,

674
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Speaker 12: but you still have all of these things you feel

675
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Speaker 12: like you need to get better at, that allows you

676
00:27:00,948 --> 00:27:03,188
Speaker 12: to stay in the moment, allows you to stay you know,

677
00:27:03,508 --> 00:27:05,868
Speaker 12: you know, focused on on getting better week to week.

678
00:27:06,228 --> 00:27:08,988
Speaker 12: The fans are somehow upset, so it allows you to

679
00:27:09,028 --> 00:27:11,708
Speaker 12: create this US versus them type of thing. And I

680
00:27:11,708 --> 00:27:13,468
Speaker 12: think that's what they need, you know, because you need

681
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Speaker 12: to flush last year, you know, as fast as possible.

682
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Speaker 12: And I think that's what's happening right now. We're looking

683
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Speaker 12: at the team last year and expecting to see the

684
00:27:20,828 --> 00:27:23,068
Speaker 12: same thing, but every single year is a different team.

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Speaker 8: There's gonna be a new path for them.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited to read the book.

687
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Speaker 7: I've already started skimming it here at the table and

688
00:27:28,148 --> 00:27:30,908
Speaker 7: comes out today again. It's called What Winners Won't Tell You.

689
00:27:31,028 --> 00:27:33,748
Speaker 7: Lessons from a legendary defender. Malcolm Jenkins, of course, one

690
00:27:33,788 --> 00:27:35,468
Speaker 7: of the great NFL players of this generation.

691
00:27:35,948 --> 00:27:37,588
Speaker 4: You played for Sean Payton.

692
00:27:37,868 --> 00:27:40,388
Speaker 7: And for all the stuff that we read about with

693
00:27:40,428 --> 00:27:42,868
Speaker 7: Sean and what you see in the media, he is

694
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Speaker 7: known as a master motivator and gets the most out

695
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Speaker 7: of his guys.

696
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Speaker 4: What's your best Sean Payton story in the book?

697
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Speaker 12: You know, Sean I talk about you know, he's very direct, right,

698
00:27:53,468 --> 00:27:55,788
Speaker 12: He's somebody who's not going to mince his words or

699
00:27:55,828 --> 00:27:58,188
Speaker 12: things like that. And I remember missing a game I

700
00:27:58,188 --> 00:28:01,068
Speaker 12: had a few mistackles and he comes up to me

701
00:28:01,108 --> 00:28:03,308
Speaker 12: in practice the next week as I'm stretching and he

702
00:28:03,428 --> 00:28:06,628
Speaker 12: just casually walks by and says, hey, uh, safeties, who

703
00:28:06,788 --> 00:28:10,868
Speaker 12: can't tackle somebody else's safety? Why it walks away? I'm like,

704
00:28:10,908 --> 00:28:13,708
Speaker 12: hold on, so come back. Does that mean He's like,

705
00:28:13,828 --> 00:28:16,788
Speaker 12: you know, that's not for me. You know, Bill Parcels

706
00:28:17,348 --> 00:28:19,148
Speaker 12: is his mentor. He's like, that's from Parcels, It's not

707
00:28:19,148 --> 00:28:21,228
Speaker 12: from me, and he walks away. And so you know,

708
00:28:21,268 --> 00:28:23,588
Speaker 12: I've seen him call guys out and do those things.

709
00:28:23,588 --> 00:28:25,628
Speaker 12: But the one thing about Sean is you always know

710
00:28:25,708 --> 00:28:28,468
Speaker 12: what your responsibility is, what your role is on the team,

711
00:28:28,748 --> 00:28:30,468
Speaker 12: and what it is you're expected to do. And I

712
00:28:30,468 --> 00:28:32,228
Speaker 12: think you know, as a player, you want that. You

713
00:28:32,268 --> 00:28:34,348
Speaker 12: want to know what you're being evaluated for. You want

714
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Speaker 12: to know what a coach is thinking.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 8: And he does not mince words.

717
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Speaker 4: A safe place.

718
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Speaker 3: I just got the shivers.

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Speaker 1: In the forward, Brady talks about how he doesn't like

720
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Speaker 1: to relive the final quarter of the.

721
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl Patriots Eagles.

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Speaker 1: It's a weird game because he was prolificed statistically, and

723
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Speaker 1: then BG makes the strip at the end of the game.

724
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Speaker 1: Just take us back to that day. I know there's

725
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Speaker 1: a lot about it in the book. What do you

726
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Speaker 1: remember about that incredible Patriots Super Bowl?

727
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Speaker 8: You know, I remember the things leading up to that game.

728
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Speaker 12: You know, it was so much going on through our season,

729
00:29:07,748 --> 00:29:11,588
Speaker 12: the players coalition and negotiating with the NFL, was meet

730
00:29:11,628 --> 00:29:14,308
Speaker 12: Mill was, you know, sending us messages. He was incarcerated

731
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Speaker 12: at the time. My favorite thing about that game was

732
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Speaker 12: just the entrance. I think I can't remember what the

733
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Speaker 12: Patriots came out to really, but we came out to

734
00:29:21,668 --> 00:29:24,108
Speaker 12: meet Mills dreams of nightmares, and I knew the game

735
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Speaker 12: was over at that point, you know, because we just

736
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Speaker 12: we had that energy.

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Speaker 8: We were going to show up the same way that

738
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Speaker 8: we had. You know, been all year.

739
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Speaker 12: Most of us, all of us except for myself and

740
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Speaker 12: a couple guys, have never been there before. And if

741
00:29:34,428 --> 00:29:36,268
Speaker 12: it's one thing I told him is like they always say,

742
00:29:36,348 --> 00:29:38,028
Speaker 12: act like you've been there before. It's like, no, don't

743
00:29:38,068 --> 00:29:40,028
Speaker 12: act like you've been there before. Be who you were,

744
00:29:40,548 --> 00:29:42,908
Speaker 12: you know to get here. And so for us to

745
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Speaker 12: bring that back to Philly was was special.

746
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Speaker 7: This book is going to tell your story, but I

747
00:29:47,308 --> 00:29:49,748
Speaker 7: think your impact is off the field more than on

748
00:29:49,788 --> 00:29:50,268
Speaker 7: the field.

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Speaker 4: Your legacy is a NFL player.

750
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Speaker 7: If someone says meet you in an elevator first time

751
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Speaker 7: with their career, saying, hey, what were you about as

752
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Speaker 7: an NFL player, what would you tell them?

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Speaker 12: I mean, I think I always try to leave with love.

754
00:29:59,748 --> 00:30:01,388
Speaker 12: Like if you go back and listen to any of

755
00:30:01,388 --> 00:30:03,588
Speaker 12: my micd ups and things, like that, Like I always

756
00:30:03,628 --> 00:30:06,188
Speaker 12: pregame to the players that I play with, coaches like

757
00:30:06,388 --> 00:30:08,348
Speaker 12: I love you. This is a dangerous, dangerous game that

758
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Speaker 12: we play, but it's one that you have to play unselfishly.

759
00:30:12,308 --> 00:30:14,108
Speaker 12: And that's not just on the field, that's off the field.

760
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Speaker 12: I'm somebody who leaves with love in my community and

761
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Speaker 12: my family and so hopefully that's those are the things

762
00:30:19,308 --> 00:30:21,628
Speaker 12: that you see in this book. It's definitely a journey

763
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Speaker 12: and a maturation of you know, going from a boy

764
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Speaker 12: all the way to the man you see today. And

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Speaker 12: I'm connecting the dots of you know, the people and

766
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Speaker 12: experiences that have changed my life and really molded me.

767
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Speaker 12: And hopefully, you know, people see the flaws, the positives

768
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Speaker 12: and get some inspiration from it.

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Speaker 2: It's cool.

770
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Speaker 3: One of the one of the things that caught my

771
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Speaker 3: eye was you talk about losing a national championship back

772
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Speaker 3: when you're at our house state Florida, like af to

773
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Speaker 3: back ones Like that's the kind of stuff that's also

774
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Speaker 3: in here too. It's not just your time in the NFL.

775
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Speaker 12: No, this is this is not a pat myself on

776
00:30:49,788 --> 00:30:53,268
Speaker 12: the back type of yeah, very much, you know, exposing

777
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Speaker 12: because that's the thing a lot of winners won't tell

778
00:30:55,388 --> 00:30:58,508
Speaker 12: you the dirty side of the shadow side of their life, right,

779
00:30:58,868 --> 00:31:01,028
Speaker 12: So it's about you know, all of the failures that

780
00:31:01,028 --> 00:31:03,148
Speaker 12: have taught me lessons that where later in life I

781
00:31:03,188 --> 00:31:05,548
Speaker 12: can stand on those lessons and then you know the

782
00:31:05,588 --> 00:31:07,588
Speaker 12: fighter that you see me, you know, be for the

783
00:31:07,708 --> 00:31:11,148
Speaker 12: community or anything else comes from you know, a story.

784
00:31:11,148 --> 00:31:13,428
Speaker 12: I'll talk about my grandmother pushing me back outside to

785
00:31:13,428 --> 00:31:16,468
Speaker 12: go fight a bully. Like those things. Yeah, those things

786
00:31:16,508 --> 00:31:18,468
Speaker 12: are what made me you know who I am today.

787
00:31:18,508 --> 00:31:22,428
Speaker 12: So hopefully after this thirteen year career, this book allows

788
00:31:22,468 --> 00:31:24,428
Speaker 12: people to go back, look at my story and put

789
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Speaker 12: it in proper.

790
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Speaker 4: Com just from it observational standpoint.

791
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Speaker 7: I got two amazing men and leaders and fathers here

792
00:31:30,228 --> 00:31:32,788
Speaker 7: and Jason, you remember the NFLP for many years.

793
00:31:32,788 --> 00:31:34,388
Speaker 4: Malcol of course you have a huge voice.

794
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Speaker 7: I think I'm half a Jamie Kyle myself in the audience, like,

795
00:31:37,148 --> 00:31:40,348
Speaker 7: thank you for using your platform, yeah to further advanced things,

796
00:31:40,388 --> 00:31:42,308
Speaker 7: not just for football.

797
00:31:41,828 --> 00:31:43,788
Speaker 4: For the players of the organizations that they played for.

798
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Speaker 8: No, thank you, honor having you here. Man.

799
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Speaker 9: I feel enlightened every time I get a chance of

800
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Speaker 9: being your presence. So I appreciate you congrats on the book,

801
00:31:51,188 --> 00:31:53,188
Speaker 9: doing amazing things. I know there's better things to come

802
00:31:53,228 --> 00:31:53,548
Speaker 9: as well.

803
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Speaker 8: Man sir, nice to have you.

804
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Speaker 3: Man well winners won't tell you lead with love.

805
00:31:56,588 --> 00:31:56,988
Speaker 2: I love that.

806
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Speaker 3: I'm so good to see you