Speaker 1: There's just a lot of optimisms surrounding Misrowsky. I'm surprised
Speaker 1: it took this long, but the fact that he's about
Speaker 1: to make his debut, I think everyone in baseball should
Speaker 1: be watching.
Speaker 2: Your from fanside at MLB insider Robert Murray where it's Robert,
Speaker 2: good to see you, and I want to start trades.
Speaker 2: Then we'll get to some call ups. I want to
Speaker 2: get right to biz.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: Team that you think will be the most popular for
Speaker 2: phone calls based on legit assets that can help a
Speaker 2: team win the World Series is.
Speaker 1: I'll go to the Arizona Diamondbacks, and first of all,
Speaker 1: good to be here with you boys. It's been a while,
Speaker 1: but they have so many different pieces here and this
Speaker 1: season has not gone out they expected it at all.
Speaker 1: But they have pieces such as like Zach Gallan, they
Speaker 1: have Merril Kelly, they have Shelby Miller, have a bunch
Speaker 1: of pieces on offense which are headlined by Suarez there.
Speaker 1: So they have so many different names that they're already
Speaker 1: starting to get calls in Arizona. They're not ready to
Speaker 1: sell quite yet, but if they continue to struggle, and
Speaker 1: with Corbin Birds's injury, then that could make them a
Speaker 1: really enticing trade candidate for so many different teams. There's
Speaker 1: not a lot of obvious sellers right now, so if
Speaker 1: you can, if they end up deciding to sell, they
Speaker 1: could really end up dictating the market.
Speaker 2: Here, Robert, where are you at on the Orioles and
Speaker 2: how far they will go? We talked earlier about Felix Bautista.
Speaker 2: I actually believe that he won't be dealt based on
Speaker 2: how many years he has left, what his cost is,
Speaker 2: and the messaging to Orioles fans.
Speaker 3: Hey, we tanked for half a decade. We lost favor
Speaker 3: in the area.
Speaker 2: There are fans that probably became Nationals fans, not older fans,
Speaker 2: but younger fans because they're like, this isn't a serious franchise.
Speaker 2: They're tanking for years and the window was so short
Speaker 2: for now they can't just close it. Do you think
Speaker 2: that if they trade someone like Bautista who has years
Speaker 2: of control, they're sending the wrong message and they should
Speaker 2: look more at Sir Anthony Dominguez, Andrew Kittridge, Cedric Mullins,
Speaker 2: Ryan O'Hearn, etc.
Speaker 1: I think you're spot on with that. If I was them,
Speaker 1: I would not move Bautista unless you end up getting
Speaker 1: just a massive haul like we ended up seeing last
Speaker 1: year with Scott and a bunch of these other relievers
Speaker 1: who were moved last year. Like the prices on relief pitching,
Speaker 1: especially high leverage guys, was just so high, and these
Speaker 1: teams could not necessarily ignore that, Like the value was
Speaker 1: just too much for them to say no to. And
Speaker 1: if the Oriols get something like that in return, then
Speaker 1: I think that conversation could be had. But if you're
Speaker 1: looking at it from their perspective, they, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: they can't move guys that are not sign or they
Speaker 1: can't move guys who are signed long term. They have
Speaker 1: to move guys who are signed in for only this season.
Speaker 1: And you can look at Charlie Morton, to me is
Speaker 1: one of the better value plays. He struggled to start
Speaker 1: this year. But I think a guy with his history
Speaker 1: and just how good he's been and how important he's
Speaker 1: been in clubhouses as well, that guy I would target
Speaker 1: him if I was a team not looking to necessarily
Speaker 1: like break the bank for a starting pitcher, just a
Speaker 1: pitcher in general. But you mentioned some of these other
Speaker 1: guys as well, like Sigano, like Zach Eflin, Cedric Mullins.
Speaker 1: There's so many different also relief pitchers as well, Kid Ridge.
Speaker 1: I mean, although he's signed for next year as well,
Speaker 1: But they have guys who assigned short term that they
Speaker 1: can move on from, and they have a core of
Speaker 1: young players. And you guys were talking about it before
Speaker 1: I hopped on here. The expectations were just so high
Speaker 1: in Baltimore and it's just not been that at all,
Speaker 1: and they have to continue to try to build for
Speaker 1: next year and going forward. They cannot sell anything too
Speaker 1: big where it just decreases their chances of winning next season,
Speaker 1: because then that could end up really impacting Michael Lias's
Speaker 1: job status, and maybe with them moving on from their manager,
Speaker 1: that has already happened where it's like the seats starting
Speaker 1: to get warm. But they're going to be building for
Speaker 1: next year and going forward, so I expect this to
Speaker 1: be just a sell off of expiring contracts for this year.
Speaker 4: But isn't that just quinn pro quo from normal teams
Speaker 4: that are like championship caliber teams. We always talk about
Speaker 4: how well the Pirates can't trade Paul Skiings, the Orioles
Speaker 4: can't trade the Mountain like to me teams that don't
Speaker 4: go out and spend and make that big move. You
Speaker 4: can't just go quick broke, well like the Yankees would
Speaker 4: never trade to Paul Skis. They would never trade Like
Speaker 4: you have to almost like flip the script and be like, wow,
Speaker 4: how did they do that? Are the Orioles in that position?
Speaker 4: Or does this new ownership. I think they spent seventy
Speaker 4: three more million dollars this year, just expect Okay, we're
Speaker 4: gonna run it back next year, but we're gonna put
Speaker 4: our money into new things because if they don't go
Speaker 4: out and get the guy, because all we heard from
Speaker 4: the Orioles was, Oh, we're gonna go trade for this guy,
Speaker 4: trade for that guy. Why not make a big move
Speaker 4: now and get that starting pitcher before the offseason.
Speaker 1: You're preaching an a choir on that one, because I've
Speaker 1: been wanting them to make a big move for even
Speaker 1: since the offseason and they just have not done that.
Speaker 1: And it's incredibly frustrating because I I'm a covering baseball.
Speaker 1: I'm ten plus years into this now, which is kind
Speaker 1: of crazy to think about, but I've never seen a
Speaker 1: core of like this talent or this much talent of players,
Speaker 1: even maybe since like the Chicago Cubs, or even more
Speaker 1: so than that, like they've they have such a like
Speaker 1: a great collection of young players all across a roster here,
Speaker 1: and they've just not maximized it. And if there was
Speaker 1: anything that they were going to go out and spend on,
Speaker 1: it was starting pitching, like they did it getting Corbyn
Speaker 1: Burns almost immediately after the ownership change, So I was
Speaker 1: hoping and thinking that was like a sign of things
Speaker 1: to come, but it's just been incredibly underwhelming. And whether
Speaker 1: it's the owner, whether it's MIKEE. Lass being hesitant to
Speaker 1: make a big move like that, I'm not exactly sure
Speaker 1: what it is, or even if it's just a mixture
Speaker 1: of both. But this team, especially with all these guys
Speaker 1: signed cheap but also long term as well, now has
Speaker 1: been the time to go out and get those players
Speaker 1: in free agency or even when you have an infield
Speaker 1: logjam or even an outfield logjam, trading some of those
Speaker 1: guys and improving your pitching staff. They've not done that.
Speaker 1: They did it last year and with the trade with
Speaker 1: the Marlins, and they moved and got Kyle Stours and
Speaker 1: Connor Norby, and that trade was easily the worst of
Speaker 1: last deadline, so they the pressure is on them to
Speaker 1: get things right both now and in the off season,
Speaker 1: because if not, then there's gonna be a lot to
Speaker 1: talk about them looking for both a new manager but
Speaker 1: also a new GM as well.
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Speaker 2: Sandel Contras put together back to back nice addings. So
Speaker 2: maybe he goes on a little run here over the
Speaker 2: next month and gets himself back into the trade conversation
Speaker 2: for Miami. I'm sure they would like to move him.
Speaker 2: Pictures are always taking time bombs, even though this one's
Speaker 2: coming off surgery, And if they're thinking long term, this
Speaker 2: would be a good year to do it if he
Speaker 2: gets back on track. And is there anyone else you
Speaker 2: think that could pop up and be relevant for a
Speaker 2: Marlins trade conversation?
Speaker 1: I honestly think the Marlins will listen on anyone not
Speaker 1: named Augustine Ramirez or even Yurie Perez, anyone else I
Speaker 1: think the listen on. And like I want to make
Speaker 1: it clear, like listening and shopping are two totally different things.
Speaker 1: Every team listens on almost every player, Like that's just
Speaker 1: a part of it. Because you got to know exactly
Speaker 1: what kind of value is out there and try to
Speaker 1: make the most informed decisions for your franchise. So when
Speaker 1: I say that, like they're I just anticipate them listening
Speaker 1: on essentially everyone on the roster. And I could also
Speaker 1: see that including a guy like Kyle Stowers. And and
Speaker 1: my guess is a trade is probably unlikely considering this
Speaker 1: just the overall year he's had. He signed long term,
Speaker 1: he signed cheap. I believe he's in his mid to
Speaker 1: late twenties somewhere in that ballpark, and he's a really
Speaker 1: valuable piece. But what I said before with the Diamondbacks is,
Speaker 1: so far this looks like a very limited trade market
Speaker 1: and a seller's market. And I would not be surprised
Speaker 1: at all off that Marlin's got plenty of trade calls
Speaker 1: for a gallic stours And if you can end up
Speaker 1: having those trade calls turn into offers, and those offers
Speaker 1: turning into a bidding war, then that could be something
Speaker 1: where I could see the Marlins trying to take advantage
Speaker 1: of that. I think Star Wars makes plenty of sense.
Speaker 1: Sandy al Contra, We've talked about plenty and the year
Speaker 1: that he's had overall has been extremely disappointing. Like I
Speaker 1: think his best baseball is easily ahead of him, but
Speaker 1: this season has been a huge struggle for him, and
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised whatsoever if the Marlins held
Speaker 1: on to him and tried to wait for the the
Speaker 1: offseason or even maybe next trade deadline to try to
Speaker 1: trade him. So my guess is Sandy stays, but then
Speaker 1: some of these other guys on the roster they could
Speaker 1: be had, or even some some bullpen guys as well,
Speaker 1: because bullpen is always just a huge need for almost
Speaker 1: every contending team.
Speaker 3: Hold up though on stours.
Speaker 2: I don't know where he's at with service time, but
Speaker 2: it is very very early in the service time clock. Yeah,
Speaker 2: free agent listed here. I don't with Baseball Reference that
Speaker 2: they mean after during the year. It as twenty thirty
Speaker 2: you mentioned, so after twenty thirty.
Speaker 4: Wasn't he a rookie last year?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think a couple of other times. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: had been up and down actually for the last few years,
Speaker 2: but barely. Yeah, Okay, they're going to trade him. He
Speaker 2: looks like a piece of the future, honestly.
Speaker 3: Okay, there we go.
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're going to trade him, but I think there's any
Speaker 1: teams call. So that's that's what I want to say there.
Speaker 5: Peter Bendix will trade anybody we make the right right,
Speaker 5: you know what they could You know what if you
Speaker 5: call Peter Bendix right now and you offer him the
Speaker 5: bat dog that just got called up, he'd be like,
Speaker 5: you know, we could save a couple of bucks by
Speaker 5: making that trade. Maybe we could do that and the dog,
Speaker 5: but the bat dog could.
Speaker 1: Also do something.
Speaker 5: We could also save money on a bat boy.
Speaker 1: So he's like.
Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, see Robert would never trade his pot. But
Speaker 2: I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Not available, he's untouched category for me exactly.
Speaker 3: There you go, crack you go, all right.
Speaker 4: The Rockies they've always been willing to like make big
Speaker 4: moves at the trade deadline when they wait.
Speaker 1: No, not the Rockets.
Speaker 4: Literally they have some pieces. Are they going to be
Speaker 4: able to move or want to move the pieces that
Speaker 4: are actually good or are they just going to be
Speaker 4: a team that tries to move like a Kinley who's
Speaker 4: I think he has a six plus ra or even
Speaker 4: finally move McCann who I mean McMahon who now isn't
Speaker 4: having a great year when they could have traded him
Speaker 4: other years and gotten something for him.
Speaker 1: There is a reason why the Rockies are always bad,
Speaker 1: and I mean that's just one of many reasons for them.
Speaker 1: And it's unfortunate because that ballpark is beautiful and they
Speaker 1: somehow have a bunch of people in the stands on
Speaker 1: every night, but yet the product on a field stinks.
Speaker 1: And that's not the player's fault. That's just an organizational
Speaker 1: problem and it starts at the trade trade deadline because
Speaker 1: they've had they've had players in the past, and Ryan
Speaker 1: McMahon it really is just the prime example of that.
Speaker 1: He is someone they should have sold when his value
Speaker 1: was a lot higher. I know myself and so many
Speaker 1: others were really like adamant that they should absolutely listen.
Speaker 1: But yet Dick Mumfort and that organization put their foot
Speaker 1: down and we're just like, Nope, that's a guy we're
Speaker 1: not moving. He's a fan. He's a favorite of Muntfort
Speaker 1: as well, and that's gotten in the way of this,
Speaker 1: and also I believe some other other things in the
Speaker 1: past as well. But if they listen on him right now,
Speaker 1: which I think Ken Rosenthal even reported today like there's
Speaker 1: no real sign that there or there's no real like
Speaker 1: they haven't decided exactly what they're going to do here.
Speaker 1: But if they do listen on McMahon or even some
Speaker 1: of their relievers or just anyone on that roster in general,
Speaker 1: they should absolutely consider moving McMahon, even though his values
Speaker 1: not at what it once was, But shedding out or
Speaker 1: shedding that big contract would be ideal for them. But
Speaker 1: just they could have gotten so much more even a
Speaker 1: year or two ago. And the fact that they've waited
Speaker 1: this long and might move him now, I just the
Speaker 1: Rockies are going to Rocky.
Speaker 4: But the whole Momford family works for the Rockies, don't they.
Speaker 5: It's like the dad, the brother, the son, the other
Speaker 5: song on this Guy's Sister. It's like the whole family
Speaker 5: works with the Rockies. So they can't sell. They can't
Speaker 5: move on because they then they would have to find
Speaker 5: a whole new family business. Besides, I get what my
Speaker 5: mom for someone to sell. All right, let's go to
Speaker 5: a team in their division of the Padres. What's a
Speaker 5: bigger need for the Padres left field? Which is they
Speaker 5: do have Hayward coming back? Or is it Catcher which one,
Speaker 5: do you think they have a better chance and more
Speaker 5: maybe a better need of filling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a good question, and I think
Speaker 1: you can make the case for both. And you could
Speaker 1: even see it in spring training with the Potters at
Speaker 1: the catcher position because last Diaz was struggling there and
Speaker 1: they were really they were trying to figure out exactly
Speaker 1: what they were going to do. And they even kicked
Speaker 1: the tires I believe at some point in the spring
Speaker 1: or somewhere in there on that ballpark on Yasmina Groundal
Speaker 1: who actually was just released from the Red Sox. But
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if Grundhal ended up retiring there.
Speaker 1: So if that is the case, heck of a career
Speaker 1: by Grundal. But catching that's always tricky, what like what
Speaker 1: exactly they can end up targeting, like who's to be available,
Speaker 1: Like Gary Sanchez could make sense if the if the
Speaker 1: Oriels end up moving on from him, So I could
Speaker 1: see that being a potential fit in there's history there
Speaker 1: as well. And then you could also look at left
Speaker 1: field and there's gonna be plenty of different options for
Speaker 1: them to consider. But the thing I would actually put
Speaker 1: ketcher ahead of that, just because I think ketcher's just
Speaker 1: you obviously know AJ like and also Cratzy there as well.
Speaker 1: You guys a team of Ketchers today. I didn't even
Speaker 1: think about that, but ketching is such like a is
Speaker 1: such an important position, so I would put that ahead
Speaker 1: of that for sure. I would think that's probably the
Speaker 1: top priority for them. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna be spending too much money
Speaker 1: because they've had a pretty limited budget in years past,
Speaker 1: even so in the offseason and and getting Jackson Merrill's
Speaker 1: deal done was it was. There was a lot of
Speaker 1: pushing and shoving that had to go into there to
Speaker 1: make that happen. So I'm not gonna I'm not banking
Speaker 1: on a big aj Preller move. Although that being said,
Speaker 1: he's proven me wrong before with Luis Hariz and some
Speaker 1: of these other things. I'm not gonna doubt them, but
Speaker 1: I'm kind of skeptical of that right now.
Speaker 4: And catching moved at the trade deadline is rare, rare, rare,
Speaker 4: rare moves so it's barely But let's talk about a
Speaker 4: call up. A call up that happened in both of
Speaker 4: our old stomping grounds Jacob Mizerowski. Is this guy's ascension
Speaker 4: to the big leagues gonna be culminated in him being
Speaker 4: pulled out in the fifth inning? Or is this one
Speaker 4: hundred and three going to be something that we're going
Speaker 4: to see night or not night in and night out
Speaker 4: every five days and really solidify that second spot in
Speaker 4: the Brewers' rotation, especially with Savali going to the bullpen.
Speaker 1: I think he's going to make an immediate impact. And
Speaker 1: you might think I'm crazy for what I'm about to say,
Speaker 1: a cratsy, but I we've seen the Brewers. They've they've
Speaker 1: had Freight Prawlta, they've had Corbin Burns, they've had Brandon Woodruff.
Speaker 1: If everything goes right for Mizerowski, I could see him
Speaker 1: being better than all of those guys. He has all
Speaker 1: the tools in his body. He's typically averages about ninety
Speaker 1: seven to ninety eight, can top out at one oh three,
Speaker 1: got a really good slidder, really good curveball, and his
Speaker 1: big problem that he's had has been his control, and
Speaker 1: he's figured it out. It's been moving in a better
Speaker 1: direction for him. And if everything ends up working out,
Speaker 1: and I know that's easier said than done, but He's
Speaker 1: got all the tools in his body to be better
Speaker 1: and better than all of those guys. So if I'm
Speaker 1: the Brewers should I would be incredibly optimistic about what's
Speaker 1: to come for him. He's going to make an immediate
Speaker 1: impact there and both now and going forward, he's gonna,
Speaker 1: if my guess, he's going to be in the ace
Speaker 1: of that rotation, maybe as soon as next year if
Speaker 1: Freddie Peralta becomes a trade possibility for them in the offseason.
Speaker 1: So there's just a lot of optimism surrounding Miserowski. I'm
Speaker 1: surprised it took this long, but the fact that he's
Speaker 1: about to make his debut, I think everyone in baseball
Speaker 1: should be watching because he is easily one of the
Speaker 1: best pitching prospects to come up for the Brewers and
Speaker 1: just in general with although Bubba Chandler is he should
Speaker 1: be up now, but he's also a very good one
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: When do you think Bubba Chandler gets called up for
Speaker 2: the Pirates to give them something else to watch for
Speaker 2: fun since the team's not a contender again.
Speaker 1: I was open like a month ago. He's he's so
Speaker 1: good and if he ended up getting called up earlier,
Speaker 1: he was my pick to win nationally Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: He is an awesome, awesome, awesome player. And the Pirates,
Speaker 1: I mean, they played better since moving on from their
Speaker 1: manager there. And if if you call him up, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have Paul Skins, You're gonna have Bubba Chandler, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have Mitch Keller, You're gonna have a bunch of
Speaker 1: these other guys. I wish Jared Jones was healthy because
Speaker 1: having all those guys together would have been a really really,
Speaker 1: really cool thing and given fans a reason to come
Speaker 1: to the ballpark. And it's a shame to see that
Speaker 1: ballpark as empty as it is. But Chandler is he
Speaker 1: is the best pitching prospect in baseball, and it like
Speaker 1: the Pirate should have call him up, like even a
Speaker 1: month ago. They should call him up now. I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly what they're waiting for. If it's like a
Speaker 1: service time thing, I have no idea. But Pirates fans
Speaker 1: ever ever, have every reason to be optimistic about him
Speaker 1: because between him and Paul Skeins, you have maybe the
Speaker 1: most talented one two punch in baseball with those guys.
Speaker 4: And Harrington coming up too. But Ken Ken Bubba Chandler
Speaker 4: hit because that's the case, and the Pirates fans will
Speaker 4: really come out.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, if only he was shoe Otani. He
Speaker 1: can't play for his base. Yeah, that would be yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be fun. That'd be fun.
Speaker 3: Good, Hey, bring me in for a sec.
Speaker 2: So you remember you got to go way back twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four, the Pirates called up this big deal pitching
Speaker 2: prospect name Paul Skeens. They called him up on May eleventh,
Speaker 2: which is too late for them to get that extra
Speaker 2: draft pick that reward for calling someone up right, but
Speaker 2: not too late for that player to get a full
Speaker 2: year of service time if he finishes in first or
Speaker 2: second place for a now Rookie of the Year. So
Speaker 2: they got nothing out of a system that is essentially
Speaker 2: created for an organization like that. Yep, some smart people
Speaker 2: on the screen right now. Do we think that has
Speaker 2: anything to do with it?
Speaker 4: I'm I'm killing handling.
Speaker 3: I know you're handling. I'm going here, Robert, no offense,
Speaker 3: I have there's a special surprise coming.
Speaker 2: That's okay, Former Pirate aerocrats, do you think that has
Speaker 2: anything to do with it?
Speaker 4: Yes, fool me once. Whoops, we didn't think Schemes was
Speaker 4: going to pitch like he did, or they knew he
Speaker 4: was gonna pitch like we did. We didn't think he
Speaker 4: was going to win Rookie of the Year. Oh wait,
Speaker 4: we let him keep pitching then he won it. We're
Speaker 4: not going to make that mistake again with a guy
Speaker 4: who our great Robert Murray just said is one of
Speaker 4: the best pitching prospects in baseball. I saw him in
Speaker 4: spring training.
Speaker 3: I dude, can sling nast exactly.
Speaker 1: He's so good.
Speaker 3: Robert. We appreciate the time, thanks for stopping by.
Speaker 2: Obviously we'll talk again as your hot time of the
Speaker 2: year is coming up here with the trade deadline, I
Speaker 2: think about fifty days away, I think about six weeks.
Speaker 3: Good catching up, man
Speaker 1: No, I appreciate you guys, thanks for having me, have
Speaker 1: a good rest of your day, and as always, go birds.