WEBVTT - You've Got Decisions:  To Leave, Or Not To Leave?

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<v Speaker 1>If you would like to have us answer your questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Babe, Babe, babe, babe bebe y'all to hear about that later.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, welcome to another You've Got decisions, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Our book is out. Literally, it's literally out.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get it now.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, I've been telling people in my stories if you're

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<v Speaker 1>Please do.

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<v Speaker 2>And noteworthy is it in the sex and psychology section

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<v Speaker 2>because we're number one on Amazon? Yeah, Medical, psycho general,

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<v Speaker 2>sexual health as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, so, I'm like, yeah, all the different

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<v Speaker 1>categories are really interesting that we're being put into on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me click on it and just see.

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<v Speaker 2>Just so, No No Holds Barred has been out now

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<v Speaker 2>for how many hours?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, while we're recording this, this it's release date.

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<v Speaker 1>But when y'all hear this, it's been out for a

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<v Speaker 1>whole week.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one new release in Sex Instruction, Yo, uh huh, we'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Take that number one in new releases. Okay, I'll take

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<v Speaker 1>that one. I'll take that one for a show.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's literature and fiction and erotica take that. We're

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<v Speaker 2>number two. Some mother fuck nigga will no number one.

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<v Speaker 2>We number two, and erotica releases and some other medical

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<v Speaker 2>shit medical, wait till they open it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Medical, Well, we do talk about anatomy. Medicinal. We talk snow,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk anatomy. That's science. Sure. Sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, y'all don't holds bard a dull manifesto. Sexual exploration

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<v Speaker 3>empowers out. Not only do we want to see what

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<v Speaker 3>our books look like on the shelves when you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to the bookstores. If y'all can please take a picture

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<v Speaker 3>with our book and send it to me if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to repost it. Over the next couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna just be posting all the war Hive members

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<v Speaker 3>with their books on our Decisions Decisions page.

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<v Speaker 1>So please, please please, if.

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<v Speaker 3>You have the book, take a picture with it, Smile,

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<v Speaker 3>be cute, and send that to me. Be up, damn kids, Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>just take it like this now because we can't post

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<v Speaker 3>it like that, but I can do something else with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, this week I thought it was only

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<v Speaker 3>right to read this question from our listener because sounds

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<v Speaker 3>very close to a chapter in Weezy's book, when do

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<v Speaker 3>you know you stay too long? Well, this one says,

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<v Speaker 3>my question is to leave or not to leave?

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<v Speaker 2>Hi.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a new listener and have enjoyed listening to your pod.

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<v Speaker 3>It helps break up my boring ass days at work,

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<v Speaker 3>so thank you. I'm writing today for some insight.

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<v Speaker 1>On what to do with my relationship. Here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a thirty seven year old female and my partner

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<v Speaker 3>is fifty four male. We've been together for two and

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<v Speaker 3>a half years. He's recently battled stage two prostate cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>He opted to have the surgery instead of chemo, which

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't a fan of. The recovery time for the

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<v Speaker 3>surgery is extremely slow. Prior to his diagnosis, we had

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<v Speaker 3>the best sex life. It was sexy, spontaneous, and freaki

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<v Speaker 3>as fuck. Since the surgery, we haven't had any vaginal sex.

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<v Speaker 3>He hasn't had an erection since before the surgery. In

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<v Speaker 3>November of twenty twenty four. That was the last time

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<v Speaker 3>we had sex. I've been celibate since then for contacts.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been celibate three times prior to this, for more

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<v Speaker 3>than a year each time, but that was by my choice.

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<v Speaker 1>How old is Jesus thirty seven?

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<v Speaker 3>Surgery was seven months ago and he is in remission,

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<v Speaker 3>which I'm so happy about. He finished physical therapy a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of months ago that hasn't continued to do any

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<v Speaker 3>exercises at home like he should. You know how black

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<v Speaker 3>men are. They feel they are better than they are.

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<v Speaker 3>But he doesn't understand he's healing from the inside out.

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<v Speaker 3>For the first few months, he would pleasure me with

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<v Speaker 3>his hands, mouth, and toys. It's been about two months

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<v Speaker 3>since he's done any of that. I would even suck

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<v Speaker 3>his soft dick just so he wouldn't feel left out.

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<v Speaker 3>I've tried to explain to him that I'm in need

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<v Speaker 3>of intimacy, and intimacy can be more than sex. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't remember the last time he's kissed me or held

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<v Speaker 3>my hand. On top of the lack of intimacy, he's

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<v Speaker 3>gotten increasingly grumpier and rude, well dub bitch because he

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<v Speaker 3>ain't He ain't fucking anyway. I love him so much,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm getting tired. I want to walk away before

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<v Speaker 3>I cheat, because I'm not that type of person. Also,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be the girl who loved the

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<v Speaker 3>cancer pation. Any advice that you can give me on

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<v Speaker 3>how to handle this situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be appreciated.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe the cancer pation. At least he's a

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<v Speaker 2>real cancer vation because Mandies.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a lot right fat. At least he had real

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<v Speaker 1>cancer so interestingly, so common. By the way, taking cancer, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard it's a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because you get attention and you get sympathy and

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<v Speaker 2>empathy and people.

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<v Speaker 1>Care about you. When you want attention, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Should only fake her pregnancy is seeing your money? No

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<v Speaker 2>faking pregnancy. He's saying, people fake cancer. Yeah, I'm taking pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 2>Get your five hundred out.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>But you are down and out if you gotta fake

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<v Speaker 3>what you was when you did that, because you did it,

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<v Speaker 3>I needed you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not telling that. I ain't telling the girl to fake.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to see five dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling them a people test around and you already

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<v Speaker 3>know I'm telling them. If you don't open your legs

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<v Speaker 3>at all, you better be able to get five hundred

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<v Speaker 3>dollars round.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I will say this.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just watching this movie called The Room next

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<v Speaker 2>Door and it's with Julianne Moore, who I think is

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<v Speaker 2>so sexy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 2>And then some other white lady tilled you something, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was about a woman with cancer, and she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>shoot the first scene I had to stop watching the

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<v Speaker 2>movie on the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, planes make you cry. I don't know they do.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I love crying on the plane. So it starts,

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<v Speaker 2>She's like how are you? But not like how people

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<v Speaker 2>say how are you? Like really how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, some days of you four it because I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Alive, and then other days I'm depressed because I've survived,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was ready to die.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was this.

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<v Speaker 2>I was that I really don't know the ebbs and flows.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe one day we talked to get to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to Crystal, you know, just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I taught her every day. I know. No, I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like just us, as you know listeners of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>she would never come on here.

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<v Speaker 3>Well regardless, yeah, man, they could have another cancer survivor discussing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think if y'all listen to last year,

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<v Speaker 3>I had three people simultaneously be diagnosed with breast cancer, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to say all three are in remission. Like

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<v Speaker 2>they all beat it. They rang the bell, but they all.

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<v Speaker 3>Lost their hair, double missectomies, had to go through chemo.

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<v Speaker 3>One is now being told she has to go into radiation,

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<v Speaker 3>which she doesn't want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>For they all. We just saw all of us hereditary.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know the backstory, but they all

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<v Speaker 3>got it. I know, I know my best friend like

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<v Speaker 3>it ran in her family, and then I know. We

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<v Speaker 3>also just saw Anna Luis pass from breast cancer. It's

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<v Speaker 3>something that's happening to women much younger. This guy being

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<v Speaker 3>a remission from prose cancer. Prose cancer gets most of

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<v Speaker 3>our black men, especially fifty plus, which is why they

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<v Speaker 3>say that y'all need to go check your colon's is.

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<v Speaker 3>You know when you reach a certain age. We lost

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<v Speaker 3>combat Jack from cancer. So I mean, these cancers are

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<v Speaker 3>running rampant, specifically in our communities, and so I can

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<v Speaker 3>understand as we're aging, that is not something you know

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<v Speaker 3>when you get.

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<v Speaker 1>Married right till death. Do us part through sickness and health.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if.

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<v Speaker 3>Any of us have really had the conversations about sticking

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<v Speaker 3>through non marital relationships with someone battling something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot mentally, if you are someone who is

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<v Speaker 3>very sexual, you feel guilty for leaving them because of

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<v Speaker 3>their diagnosis or what they're dealing with. And unfortunately, I

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<v Speaker 3>know you said it jokingly if this isn't someone that

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<v Speaker 3>you see yourself long standing staying with.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, I hate the guilt.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate that the guilt eats you up because now

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<v Speaker 3>you're staying with him because you feel like, damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a shitty person for leaving a cancer patient.

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<v Speaker 3>But all of the things you're dealing with, you're not

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<v Speaker 3>being pleased physically, you're not even receiving the intimacy, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's probably showing up grumpy or more rude, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>because of how he doesn't feel like himself either.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like, I think, maybe giving grace to the

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<v Speaker 2>person that's going through something way more traumatic, because maybe

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't the best version of himself, and maybe if

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<v Speaker 2>it happened to you, you'd.

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<v Speaker 1>Want grace as well. He's seven months in.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you, how long do you extend that

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<v Speaker 3>grace because you're a freak as whole who liked to

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<v Speaker 3>get fucked too.

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<v Speaker 1>So they don't have an open relationship. How long are

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<v Speaker 1>you waiting holding out?

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<v Speaker 2>I would set a time frame from when I'm acknowledging

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<v Speaker 2>that they're doing something wrong. Okay, So I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>okay another few months without telling you something's wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. I would come to the table and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing X y Z. Wait, yeah, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you saying it? I want to know how it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Making You're making it harder for me to enjoy being

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<v Speaker 2>in this relationship, and I want to let you know

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<v Speaker 2>some of the flaws I'm seeing and what's really difficult

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<v Speaker 2>for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, he responds, this is what I you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>just hold on, but like, let's let's dialogue this out.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, you know, I just like went through cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>Chemo wasn't easy. Like I don't have any control over

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<v Speaker 3>how my body is healing.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that you're depressed, I know that you're going

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<v Speaker 2>through X y Z. I'm telling you this is how

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<v Speaker 2>you're treating me. Okay, So I'm going to stick here

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<v Speaker 2>through you with this, but I need you to try

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<v Speaker 2>to take care of yourself better that I can be

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<v Speaker 2>a good partner to you because.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't both drown. Like, yep, how am I going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a support system? Actually? I just had this conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>We were out to do with some friends in Paris,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of them said that when they cheated on

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<v Speaker 2>their partner, they gave their partner a warning before it happened.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, whoa, whoa, wait what wait it was specific?

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<v Speaker 3>What is a warning to tell your partner before you cheat?

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought this was crazy. The person said, look, I

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<v Speaker 1>understand you work late nights. I think his wife was

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<v Speaker 1>a waitress. Okay, he was like.

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<v Speaker 2>But to the point where we're not having sex at

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<v Speaker 2>night because you get home and you're exhausted. Understandable, understandable

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<v Speaker 2>in the day, you need more rest. When do we

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<v Speaker 2>ever prioritize sex at all? I'm letting you know this

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<v Speaker 2>is a need, and right now we barely have sex

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<v Speaker 2>once a week. I need to have sex at least

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<v Speaker 2>twice a week. That's my minimum.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't give it to me, I'm gonna step

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<v Speaker 1>out on you.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't say that, but he said, we need to

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<v Speaker 2>get back to the drawing board on what this relationship

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<v Speaker 2>looks like if we can at least have sex together.

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<v Speaker 1>In this house. That was not a warning. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's what.

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<v Speaker 3>Because that didn't come with a time frame, bro, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you just bring it to me, how long between

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<v Speaker 3>you saying that? So you cheating because if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Come next time? So apparently that time frame, Yeah, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the time fro.

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<v Speaker 1>The next thing happens? Person? This is their job.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a month or two later. He made a joke

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<v Speaker 2>on the right side, we can fuck now. We got

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<v Speaker 2>time to spend. I don't know if he said we

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<v Speaker 2>can fuck now. She said, that's a shitty thing to

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<v Speaker 2>say to me because I'm depressed. Now, I really don't

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<v Speaker 2>think like it't around you. Apparently it went to ninety

0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:55.360
<v Speaker 2>days he cheated now, I'm not a lot of you.

0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.280
<v Speaker 2>To me, that's enough, And I don't think lying is right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he should have broken up with her.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, when he told the story, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>did you really say that? He was like, yeah, I did.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, so she went. She went from not fucking

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<v Speaker 1>him thirty eight years old. She went from not fucking

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<v Speaker 1>him because of his job.

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<v Speaker 2>No no, no, no, no, wait, because of her job to then

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<v Speaker 2>not fucking him because he depressed, depressed because she lost

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<v Speaker 2>her job, So she might not have just been a

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<v Speaker 2>sexual being. Well you know what this makes me think

0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:29.080
<v Speaker 2>of not having sex because you got cancer. Now you

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<v Speaker 2>not haveing sex as you're depressed about the cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no, he's not physically being able to get hard,

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<v Speaker 3>not being.

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<v Speaker 1>Sexual, Y're not, Yes, they're not doing anything.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well that's I guess the different thing, right if

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<v Speaker 3>they had a healthy sex life. This reminds me of

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<v Speaker 3>like when I was fucking twenty four seven, but also

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<v Speaker 3>when they've been together for two and a half years.

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<v Speaker 3>But also it reminds me of like my relationship with

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four to seven and a lot of people I

0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.360
<v Speaker 3>was fucking in my twenties where we had his healthy

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<v Speaker 3>sex lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Zero intimacy for man.

0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:04.079
<v Speaker 3>Who can show up really well in the bedroom sexually,

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe you don't even acknowledge the need for intimacy

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<v Speaker 3>because you getting fucked through the mattress.

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<v Speaker 2>U she'says he doesn't hold my hand or kiss me anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, he doesn't do it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't say anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>So what I'm saying is maybe she didn't get the intimacy.

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<v Speaker 3>But because now she's not getting the sex she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I would like at least the intimacy I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Not getting either.

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<v Speaker 2>You ain't gonna be if but he could be a

0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:31.960
<v Speaker 2>man that might not be intimate, like there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of men that don't know how to show up as

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<v Speaker 2>an intimate lover, like without putting the dick down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the warning, give him the warning about and then

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<v Speaker 1>from the warning.

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<v Speaker 3>So the warning is you gotta get your mental health

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<v Speaker 3>together and show me intimacy or else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you have to say the things that you need, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>in this relationship, And I think it's very fair to

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<v Speaker 2>tell someone I just had to pro say cancer, this

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<v Speaker 2>is not about sex, and this conversation I like that

0:13:57.200 --> 0:13:59.240
<v Speaker 2>I need more connection. And the reason you need to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure you say it's not about sex because that's

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<v Speaker 2>the literal thing that he can't do right, and that

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<v Speaker 2>would be fucked up up, that'll be fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. That's worse than leaving the cancer patient. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I also think that so she's thirty seven,

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<v Speaker 3>he's fifty two. I think that there has to be

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<v Speaker 3>and I know that we talk about dating with intention,

0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:26.600
<v Speaker 3>We talk about being with partners.

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people do.

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<v Speaker 3>Date with the hope of marriage or you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>hierarchy of what's next in this relationship. I think that

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<v Speaker 3>she should sit with over the past two and a

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<v Speaker 3>half years, maybe even leaving out the fact that you're

0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.600
<v Speaker 3>holding him down through the cancer thing. Is this person

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<v Speaker 3>someone that you see yourself with because through sickness and health, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the thing that I realized too. Even when you

0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.600
<v Speaker 3>go into remission from cancer, Oh, maybe there's still checkups,

0:14:58.840 --> 0:15:00.480
<v Speaker 3>there's certain medications I want to take.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a part of.

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<v Speaker 3>Your new life to where if say, something else comes back, like,

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<v Speaker 3>is this.

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<v Speaker 1>Something you'd willing to deal with again?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, to me, you have to acknowledge someone's health condition

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<v Speaker 3>when you were dating that.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, this is making me think a loud

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<v Speaker 2>about my parents. So my mom hasn't had sex in

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<v Speaker 2>a few years obviously because of my dad. And she

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<v Speaker 2>said a few years ago when it happened. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to say he got sick in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because that was my old bab she said, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like six months out. My mom never had a job.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad always took care of everything, and she started

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<v Speaker 2>working at a store, and this was before I was

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<v Speaker 2>making a lot more money to where she didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to work. But basically she was like, listen, your dad

0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:53.360
<v Speaker 2>took care of me his whole life, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm meant to do. She's like, it was never

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<v Speaker 2>anything that we didn't have, that we didn't want. He

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<v Speaker 2>was loving to me, like, this is what I meant

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<v Speaker 2>to do. And it was very sweet coming from a

0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.840
<v Speaker 2>house wife who frankly, my mom can't figure out any

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<v Speaker 2>handle life for Peter, and she's always had to remind

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<v Speaker 2>herself these things sometimes. And recently I was actually there

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<v Speaker 2>with my partner and my mom were visiting my dad

0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:19.200
<v Speaker 2>and he just got grumpy out of nowhere, and it

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<v Speaker 2>happens like it's a dimension.

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<v Speaker 1>You just get angry, get mad.

0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:28.720
<v Speaker 2>And my mom starts to say to me, this is

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<v Speaker 2>I will do anything for him, And I don't know

0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.360
<v Speaker 2>if she's saying out loud for herself, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a hard life that he's got. Right now,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a hard life that I've got, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>have to go visit my husband.

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<v Speaker 1>I still feel young, I still feel like I could

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<v Speaker 1>do things.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I have to be there for him and of

0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:44.280
<v Speaker 2>course the next day, maybe he has a good day.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think my parents were together for twenty nine

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<v Speaker 2>years before this happens. Now they're together thirty five years,

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<v Speaker 2>but twenty nine years of their marriage of healthiness. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>That to me is when you can I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to use the word oh someone, but when you can

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<v Speaker 2>be selfless.

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<v Speaker 3>And a half years and you and you thirty seven girl,

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<v Speaker 3>you you silly ripe, oh half a century? Like I

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<v Speaker 3>think that you you have to decide if this is

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<v Speaker 3>something that you can mentally know that in your mind

0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.920
<v Speaker 3>you may have to ride this roller coaster again, because

0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.880
<v Speaker 3>you're on this roller coaster now with him through being

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<v Speaker 3>not only a cancer survivor, but someone who now has

0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:31.800
<v Speaker 3>to really like And.

0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.240
<v Speaker 2>I cannot make care of his own intimacy park because

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<v Speaker 2>something my fan told me recently, like your parents kiss

0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.000
<v Speaker 2>so much that like it's I've never seen anything like this.

0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.960
<v Speaker 2>My dad can't roll the wheelchair. They'd be like career, Like,

0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, the intimacy can still exists in this weird way.

0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:50.200
<v Speaker 2>They'll smack her by like it's just no intimacy can

0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.080
<v Speaker 2>show up in so many different ways that they haven't

0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:55.800
<v Speaker 2>had sex in years and like if my mom tells

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<v Speaker 2>this joke. So my dad the last vacation I got

0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.639
<v Speaker 2>to put him on a plane for uh, travel on

0:18:01.680 --> 0:18:03.400
<v Speaker 2>someone who's older, it's just just wipes them out.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been able.

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<v Speaker 2>It was great to be able to take them on

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<v Speaker 2>the beach, but it was a lot for him. So

0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.320
<v Speaker 2>she told him the next day that they had sex.

0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:14.280
<v Speaker 2>He's like, no, we did it, we really did. So

0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yes, it was so good. You don't remember,

0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:19.720
<v Speaker 2>but my dad was exhausted. So sometimes like you're still

0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:22.199
<v Speaker 2>talking about this name. Remember we were in Mexico and

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<v Speaker 2>Gila left the room and he's like, I think, I

0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.960
<v Speaker 2>think I remember Jude. I think I know what they're

0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.080
<v Speaker 2>talking about, like because he needs to know that he

0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.000
<v Speaker 2>still had that. And it's like when people really love

0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:36.119
<v Speaker 2>and care about you and they're able to put that aside,

0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:37.560
<v Speaker 2>they want to show up in those ways.

0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:41.800
<v Speaker 1>And so for I have a parallet like that. It's sweet, right.

0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.800
<v Speaker 2>But to know that, like this part, dude is watching

0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.000
<v Speaker 2>you stick with him through you know, through all of that.

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<v Speaker 3>In because you know you ain't have sex for seven months, bitch,

0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:58.600
<v Speaker 3>so do he so you to not have bitch, giry

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<v Speaker 3>you that Gummy did knowing it wasn't gonna get hard,

0:19:01.400 --> 0:19:03.359
<v Speaker 3>like you didn't even try to just give him some

0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:07.920
<v Speaker 3>else of pleasure. And I think that she's acknowledging as well, like, Okay,

0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.479
<v Speaker 3>I get it, he's going through this thing. The healing

0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:14.320
<v Speaker 3>phase is taking much longer. That's probably what's adding to

0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:17.679
<v Speaker 3>him being grumpier and ruder. But I don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>we and when I say we, it's human beings have

0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:26.960
<v Speaker 3>to be subjected to certain treatment, like by people, and.

0:19:26.920 --> 0:19:30.479
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you only go through something so long being

0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:32.040
<v Speaker 1>because as human.

0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Beings like Bro, there has to be something where you

0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:37.560
<v Speaker 3>put yourself first, like consider yourself, what do you want?

0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.920
<v Speaker 1>And if this doesn't work for you, if long term

0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Like damn, I don't think I could do this again, well,

0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.320
<v Speaker 3>the reality is you might have to deal with this again,

0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:50.000
<v Speaker 3>like cancer comes back even after you beat it sometimes,

0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.520
<v Speaker 3>like it's a very big possibility. And so I just

0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:57.360
<v Speaker 3>think that with knowing his health status, you're young enough,

0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:01.760
<v Speaker 3>I think, and you're not tied through marriage to consider yourself.

0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:05.359
<v Speaker 3>And it could sound harsh, it could sound fucking really selfish,

0:20:05.720 --> 0:20:08.240
<v Speaker 3>but I think, like Bro, when you young, sometimes you

0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:10.840
<v Speaker 3>gotta choose yourself. Bro, two and a half years you

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<v Speaker 3>had a good ride.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's let's talk about it. That nigga fifty two

0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:17.000
<v Speaker 1>and they got no wife. Don't do that. Don't do that.

0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Why you did that? Don't do that, ahole.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I don't like that because look at don't

0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:23.320
<v Speaker 2>do that.

0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:27.199
<v Speaker 1>Becase, No, it don't matter. Don't do that. Don't do that.

0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:32.119
<v Speaker 1>Don't nobody watch. That's terrible. You're literally being the person

0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:33.160
<v Speaker 1>like when I.

0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:36.560
<v Speaker 3>Get fifty with no kids, no husband, ain't nothing wrong

0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:38.440
<v Speaker 3>with me. This is what I chose, all right, he

0:20:38.560 --> 0:20:40.880
<v Speaker 3>might have chosen it. Don't mean you asshole, you don't

0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:42.560
<v Speaker 3>mean it. I don't like that because I know that

0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:45.040
<v Speaker 3>we put that same stigma on women who are older,

0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:47.720
<v Speaker 3>who are unwed with no children. I'm not gonna allow

0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:50.159
<v Speaker 3>that narrative to go on any of my platform. Be

0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.120
<v Speaker 3>a dick, because I'm not gonna talk with that little dick.

0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:53.520
<v Speaker 3>He could be, he could be.

0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:56.919
<v Speaker 2>But the narrative that you're old without a wife or

0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:58.440
<v Speaker 2>a husband looking for without.

0:20:58.320 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Kids does not mean that.

0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:02.000
<v Speaker 3>You a fucked up person, or that you suck, or

0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.479
<v Speaker 3>that you're unwanted or no one wants you. I just

0:21:04.560 --> 0:21:07.520
<v Speaker 3>hate hearing that narrative because I see it in the comments.

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I see that we're gonna grow old, lonely, like bro.

0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:12.879
<v Speaker 3>This is my decision as a human being, and I

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<v Speaker 3>would never sit here. I'm a hypocrite on a lot

0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:17.919
<v Speaker 3>of things, but I'm not a hypocrite to be on

0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:20.800
<v Speaker 3>some You old, you ain't got no no wife, you

0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:23.320
<v Speaker 3>ain't got no kids. You a shitty ass person because

0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:25.320
<v Speaker 3>people make those decisions for themselves.

0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, clearly got triggered. I'm just not gonna a lot

0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:29.520
<v Speaker 1>active be the narrative.

0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:32.399
<v Speaker 3>But men or women over fifty who aren't married and

0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:34.480
<v Speaker 3>who don't have kids, because I have a friend right

0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:38.160
<v Speaker 3>now who is unmarried with no kids.

0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I have friends right now who can't have kids, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I would just hate for the narrative in a couple

0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:45.080
<v Speaker 3>of years because they're all approaching forty for it to

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<v Speaker 3>be the you know, they suck as people, especially knowing

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking about cancer. There's people that can't have kids

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<v Speaker 3>after going through things.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, I know, triggered, but just want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't believe that not talking about people know children

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<v Speaker 2>or like mishaps or anything like that I'm being facetious,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do think he's probably a dick.

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<v Speaker 1>And why you say that because he's treating her like what.

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<v Speaker 3>He just had cancer and can't get his dick hard, Like, bro,

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<v Speaker 3>you get grumpy, sometimes you get grumpy.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes he had.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't tell her to say with them many I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying that because I'm just saying I'm not and he's

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<v Speaker 2>being a dick, well, because he just fucking beat cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>Like as a friend who some days Crystal didn't feel

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<v Speaker 2>the best. Some days another friend was like, why the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck am I here and didn't want to be here?

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<v Speaker 2>Like beating cancer is a blessing you just talked about

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<v Speaker 2>the show. There's gonna be some days that are really hard,

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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes they may not know that they're treating the

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<v Speaker 2>people around them like shit.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me, that's why I leaned into it as

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<v Speaker 1>a health thing.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of things that come with people who

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<v Speaker 3>navigate all types of things. So whether it's cancer, whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's mental health issues, whether it's any sort of level

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<v Speaker 3>of diagnosis that requires medication, like you as a person

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<v Speaker 3>can decide whether to stay with them or not. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that being guilted for staying with them, or staying

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<v Speaker 3>with people who don't treat you, well, that's a whole

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<v Speaker 3>nother like way of looking at that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyone should put up with it. I don't think you

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<v Speaker 3>should guilt yourself for staying. If it doesn't work for you,

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<v Speaker 3>leave And I think that we have to as people,

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<v Speaker 3>be fine with just leaving people because we don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to deal with their health, not that they're dicks, not

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<v Speaker 3>that they suck as people, because she loved them.

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<v Speaker 1>They have fun up until the cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>So but when people have to deal with like health shit, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>they become different people.

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<v Speaker 1>They become different people.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't want to put any labels of people

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<v Speaker 3>being shitty as people when people have life changing moments

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<v Speaker 3>like cancer where they beat it where they thought that

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<v Speaker 3>they might be dying, where now it changes their whole bodies,

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<v Speaker 3>where maybe now they have to decide or realize damn it,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't have kids now. Damn I'm having hot flashes now. Damn,

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<v Speaker 3>my breasts aren't even mine anymore. And now I gotta

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<v Speaker 3>like how I look in shirts and maybe I woke

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<v Speaker 3>up this morning and fucking hate that I have these

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<v Speaker 3>fake breasts in like I understand the mental capacity of

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<v Speaker 3>like what it feels like to technically become a whole

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<v Speaker 3>new person after cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for me, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Would say you, as a partner, leave if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to be the support system or you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>the patience or capacity to be there for him, and

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<v Speaker 3>be okay with that. I don't think you deserve to

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<v Speaker 3>be dating someone who's grumpy or nasty to you, But

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<v Speaker 3>just know that this is his reality now and he

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<v Speaker 3>may have more grumpier or more grumpier days than not because.

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<v Speaker 1>Of his health. And so look at the health thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think any of us have to sit here.

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<v Speaker 3>And not admit that we don't have the capacity to

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<v Speaker 3>deal with someone's health issues. It's a lot, and so

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<v Speaker 3>you have to sit with that. Do you have the

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<v Speaker 3>capacity to weather through the storm with this man's health?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes or no? And if you don't choose yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>leave him.

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<v Speaker 3>Wish them the best and maybe maintain a friendship, because

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<v Speaker 3>when you break up with someone, you can still be

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<v Speaker 3>friends with them even if he may fill away.

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<v Speaker 1>Go listen to our patre go list.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't anyone that's ever sent us a YGD, Please

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<v Speaker 2>send us in your updates we want everybody gets invested.

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<v Speaker 2>We all want to know what's going on. Our listeners

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<v Speaker 2>want to know what's going on. We want to know

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<v Speaker 2>if you took our advice or if you didn't. It's funny,

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<v Speaker 2>we had an update, but I think it was from

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<v Speaker 2>one of the ones you did, so we ain't read it.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's an update in the email that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't touch that right and at maybe there was

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<v Speaker 2>an update though, and we were like, oh, I don't

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