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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a lot of good options.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, that's one of those things that we're

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Speaker 1: Obviously, you know, the things that they say to us

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we know this is a team. This

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Speaker 3: But this is the best time to spend money, spend

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Speaker 1: It probably depends how you define mostly quiet. I would

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Speaker 3: It's definitely signaling we're not going to come to other

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Speaker 1: a lot of different routes they could go. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of different things they explore.

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Speaker 1: I think with where they're at right now, the easiest

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Speaker 1: fit to see is them finding some kind of deal

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Speaker 1: on the trade market. But they're going to keep their

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Speaker 1: options open and explore things, and like they do every winner,

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Speaker 1: see how the markets develop for various players and try

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Speaker 1: to put themselves in position to strike if they think

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Speaker 1: that there's a deal that they value.

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Speaker 3: Final one I got for you here before I let

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Speaker 3: you escape. Two names key contributors to this Dodgers run

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Speaker 3: over the last two years of World Series dominance, Keith

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Speaker 3: arnandez Miguel Rojas, both free agents. I'm kind of going

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Speaker 3: back and forth on whether or not there's definitely a

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Speaker 3: heart and soul need for both of those guys to return.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that the roster right now seems to

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Speaker 3: fit both of them returning, especially with guys like Alex

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Speaker 3: Freelancy still being around them wanting to get something out

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Speaker 3: of Hessan Kim now Ryan Ward on the roster what's

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Speaker 3: kind of your feeling of where the organization and the

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Speaker 3: relationship with Ke and Miguel Rojas, like, could they both return?

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Speaker 3: You think it's to a one return sort of situation.

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Speaker 2: What are you thinking?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is a difficult dynamic to work

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Speaker 1: through because of all the things you just said. They

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Speaker 1: have been so valuable and not just in the clubhouse

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Speaker 1: and as veteran leaders, but directly on the field during

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Speaker 1: the last couple octobers. And even if you're guessing that

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Speaker 1: you know you're probably not going to get a ton

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Speaker 1: of production out of them in the regular season, knowing

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Speaker 1: that those are guys that you can count on to

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Speaker 1: deliver in big moments in the playoffs is a really

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Speaker 1: valuable thing for a team that's judged based on how

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Speaker 1: it does in October. So I think that there is

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Speaker 1: still an interest in trying to bring them back if

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Speaker 1: it makes sense. I think the way you've seen this

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Speaker 1: play out with Kik the last couple off seasons is

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers make their moves, they kind of wait around.

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Speaker 1: He waits around, sees what they do. They wait around,

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Speaker 1: see kind of how his market develops, and then at

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Speaker 1: the end of the winner if there's still a rout

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Speaker 1: or path for him to come back and have a

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Speaker 1: role on the team. They've been able to hammer out deals,

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Speaker 1: and I would imagine with both these guys probably something

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Speaker 1: similar to that that Dodger are going to cast a

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Speaker 1: wide net right now, try to figure out a little

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Speaker 1: more specifically, Okay, what is the roster going to look like,

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Speaker 1: who are the other pieces they're going to add, and

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Speaker 1: then you know, if they have roles for to bring

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Speaker 1: geek A and Miggey Roe back. I think they would

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Speaker 1: love to do that because they understand how valuable they are.

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Speaker 1: But before they do that, they're going to see how

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Speaker 1: the rest of this winter kind of plays out first.

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Speaker 1: Would be my guess, you know, similar to what we've

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Speaker 1: see in the last couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it should be definitely an interesting, maybe less interesting

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Speaker 3: off season than what we've seen over the last couple

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Speaker 3: of winters, but still intriguing nonetheless, And of course we'll

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Speaker 3: be covering what you and all of the cohorts over

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Speaker 3: at the early times of doing Jack, I appreciate the

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Speaker 3: time here on the Thursday, give them a follow by

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Speaker 3: Jack Harris on the Twitter x whatever you want to

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Speaker 3: call it.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, we'll talk soon, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you much, appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Guys, we're going to continue the show. We're going to

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Speaker 3: get into last licks. Doing this for Alana, who will

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Speaker 3: be back of course on Monday, but I'm excited to

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Speaker 3: I just really want.

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Speaker 2: Chip to be adopted.

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Speaker 3: There wasn't an adoption while Alana's been on vacation. Sonny

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Speaker 3: got adopted, so that is super cool. We appreciate whoever adopted.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who did it, but I'm gonna hit

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Speaker 3: that applause button for Sonny being adopted. But Chip here

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Speaker 3: needs an adopter. This is a one and a half

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Speaker 3: year old mixed breed. He is the handsomest looking good boy.

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Speaker 3: He's neutered, vaccinated, great with kids, great with dogs. You

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Speaker 3: can help Chip out by adopting him. You can help

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Speaker 3: Gidrey's guardian out by adopting Chip.

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Speaker 2: You can help Alana out.

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Speaker 3: They have a bunch of dogs right now that need homes.

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Speaker 3: They need the right home, so do check that out.

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Speaker 3: We're trying to get as many dogs as we can

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Speaker 3: good homes. Good boys deserve good homes, so we'd appreciate

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Speaker 3: it if you consider Chip or anybody else over there

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Speaker 3: at Gidre's guardian dot org um at a baseball thought

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Speaker 3: for the road, something probably dumb, something that could potentially

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Speaker 3: get us in trouble, but whatever. I'm sure some people

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Speaker 3: saw today that the San Diego Padres are quote evaluating

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Speaker 3: a future you know, ownership, What is it? I lost

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Speaker 3: all the words there, future with the Padres. They they're

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Speaker 3: in the process. This is I probably should just read

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Speaker 3: what's I put on the screen here. John Seidler, the chairman,

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Speaker 3: announced that they are deciding a process of evaluating future

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Speaker 3: with the Padres and potentially looking this is the point

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Speaker 3: we're getting to eventually looking to sell.

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Speaker 2: The team, sell the franchise.

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Speaker 3: Just two years removed from Peter Seiler passing away, we

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Speaker 3: knew at some point this Padres organization, that Padres organization

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Speaker 3: would become an absolute shit show. And with all of

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Speaker 3: those contracts, with all of the drama going on with

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Speaker 3: ownership in the front office, and and things with Peter

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Speaker 3: Siler's growing friend and the brothers that own the team,

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Speaker 3: and all of this just drama, drama issues. They invested,

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Speaker 3: Peter invested a lot of money into aging stars, and

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Speaker 3: those stars are getting older and older and still worth

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Speaker 3: a butt ton of money with like a U Darvisho's

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Speaker 3: out for next year. Manny Machado, who you know is

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Speaker 3: selectively a fan of Hustle, Xander Bogart's all of these guys.

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Speaker 3: Jake croninworth a weird deal that he got. You know,

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Speaker 3: you could see this team, you could see that organization

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Speaker 3: start to get desperate to move some payroll.

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Speaker 2: I've seen a few names mentioned.

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Speaker 3: A few people mentioned the idea of Fernando Tatis Junior

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Speaker 3: being traded, maybe him being a Dodger. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how I feel about Nando being a Dodger.

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Speaker 2: He's a hell of a right fielder.

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Speaker 3: Maybe him playing with some quality leadership would help him out.

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Speaker 3: I doubt the Padres and Dodgers come together on a deal,

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Speaker 3: but still, it's just it's funny. It's sad, but probably

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Speaker 3: more funny, just towards Padres fans that this could be happening.

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Speaker 3: Who knows if they bring in investors, however it works out.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to talk about something different than the

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Speaker 3: Dodgers for a second. Here in our Baseball thought for

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Speaker 3: the Road, Mark Marcus saying the Padres just cannot get

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Speaker 3: their act together. He's in San Diego and would love

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Speaker 3: to see them get going. We've said it here a

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Speaker 3: bunch of times, the Dodgers are better when other teams

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Speaker 3: in the NL West are better.

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Speaker 2: You hope the.

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Speaker 3: Giants find a way to get a little bit better.

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Speaker 3: You hope that the Padres find a way to figure.

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Speaker 2: Some things out.

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Speaker 3: You hope that the d Backs get back on track

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Speaker 3: from where they were in twenty twenty three, because that

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Speaker 3: forces the Dodgers to get even better.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's about it.

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Speaker 3: Marcus also says Tatis would not fit in. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: really can't see that, Mike. Bring it up the Frank

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Speaker 3: McCourt era. Still shudder every time I think about the

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Speaker 3: Dodgers being owned by Frank McCourt.

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Speaker 2: But that's it.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to touch on that for a little

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Speaker 3: bit here on the way out. Guys, thank you for

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Speaker 3: watching this edition of Dodgers' Territory. Big thank you to

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00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 3: Jack Harris filling in for a lot of giving us

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Speaker 3: some insight today. A lot of Rizzo will be back

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Speaker 3: on Monday, so fear not. It will be fun to

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Speaker 3: get Riz back and we could finally get her thoughts

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Speaker 3: about the World series that she watched most of Game

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Speaker 3: seven on a plane, which is unfortunate. But all the

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Speaker 3: way out, guys, we can smash that like button, subscribe

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Speaker 3: to the channel, all that kind of stuff. Trying to

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Speaker 3: get to fifteen thousand subscribers. We're not very far away.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we could do that by Monday if you guys

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Speaker 3: go insane. Otherwise, just thank you for being here. We'll

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Speaker 3: see you on Monday. Buy some stuff on the way

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Speaker 3: out to Dodge Territory shop dot com. All right, that's

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Speaker 3: enough plugging stuff. I'll see you see on Monday. Okay, bye,