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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty arm Strong

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Speaker 1: and Jetty and he Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 2: So, if you're an NFL fan, the very first game

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Speaker 2: of the this year was last night Chargers Lions. Chargers

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Speaker 2: beat the hell out of the Lions in the Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame game and can'ton Ohio anyway. I came across

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Speaker 2: this at Harbaugh. Jim Harbaugh, one of our favorite people

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Speaker 2: back when he was a forty nine Ers coach, said

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Speaker 2: to his team or media or somebody, because people are

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Speaker 2: talking about then all it's freaking July. There's an NFL

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Speaker 2: game and preseason and who cares and all that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff, And he said, this game will get higher

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Speaker 2: ratings than a World Series baseball game or any NBA

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Speaker 2: Finals game. And he's right, that's how much bigger the

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Speaker 2: NFL is than the other sports.

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Speaker 1: Wow? Is that right?

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Speaker 2: He yeah, I didn't look it up, but that's historically,

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Speaker 2: that's true, that sort of thing. That's how much bigger

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Speaker 2: the NFL is. Wow, they are the five hundred pound guerrilla.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: So Kamala Harris was on Colbert last night. We talked

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Speaker 2: about this a lot. Yesterday, She's got a book out.

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Speaker 2: She announced she's not running for governor of California. She's

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Speaker 2: clearly running for president, or at least trying to put

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Speaker 2: together a team to run for California, and if she

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Speaker 2: can get the money people behind her, she will run.

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Speaker 2: She's delusional. She was on Colbert. She was always good

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Speaker 2: at those. That's why she did them. She's good at

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Speaker 2: the smiling, laughing and if you have a host that

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Speaker 2: wants to help you along, she's fine at it. And

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Speaker 2: I think that's what convinced her in her head she

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Speaker 2: could be president because she was good at those. She

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Speaker 2: couldn't do any interview where she has challenged on policy.

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Speaker 2: But I just wanted to hear this a little bit

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Speaker 1: I've just read about it and it sounds gosh.

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Speaker 3: Thanks gentlemen, My guest tonight was Vice President of the

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Speaker 3: United States. Please welcome her back to the Lake Show.

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Speaker 3: Vice President Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 1: Listen to that crowd.

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Speaker 2: Keep you going there, my, She stands there and waves

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Speaker 2: because they're all on their feet, grinning.

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Speaker 1: The ear to ear excitement in the.

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Speaker 4: Air cheering wildly, I guess, And.

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Speaker 1: Here you go with the USA chance. Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: what the state of the USA would be if that

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Speaker 1: half witted Well, that's not that though. What does that

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Speaker 1: tell you? That's good, Michael. What does that tell you politically? Though?

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Speaker 2: Now Colbert famously has a very left audience. That's what

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Speaker 2: he crafted on purpose. He was the number one show,

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Speaker 2: so blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Uh. But he's got that crowd. But she got beaten

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Speaker 1: by Donald Trump, and the crowd is chanting USA and

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Speaker 1: he can't get him to quiet down enough to even

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Speaker 1: ask her a question. Yeah, I'm just trying to think

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Speaker 1: of an analogous situation on the other side of the aisle,

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Speaker 1: like if Republicans Conservatives had just erupted in rapturous cheers

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Speaker 1: when Bob Dole was introduced for Mitt Romney after his defeat.

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Speaker 1: Although you could argue Mitt Romney was a was a

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Speaker 1: very good man, could have won, blah blah blah. But

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Speaker 1: you know the history. You always have that quote about

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Speaker 1: when people run for president and lose. That's the history

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Speaker 1: of people when they run for president lose. Even if

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Speaker 1: you're a good gut person. People are ardies are done

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Speaker 2: Is it's just an opportunity to express your anti Trump enthusiasm, particularly.

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Speaker 1: Given the fact that anti Trump enthusiasm is kind of

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Speaker 1: tied up in the whole Colbert Show is getting canceled

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Speaker 2: I thought that was an interesting political moment. She's not

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Speaker 2: only a losing candidate. She lost to a guy whose

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Speaker 2: negatives were higher than anybody who's ever won the presidency,

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Speaker 2: and she was horrible at it and thunderous applause.

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Speaker 1: In Chance of USA. I mean that is if they

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Speaker 1: keep sharing, folks, maybe you can get to Kamala and

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Speaker 1: Mamdani as the VP nominee that got the juices in

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Speaker 2: Do you have juices in your brain that got the

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Speaker 2: juices in her brain that we're thinking should I run

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Speaker 2: for prison or not? Into full tilt mode? I guarantee

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Speaker 2: you look at this should I run? How is that

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Speaker 1: The people want me. I would be a bad American

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Speaker 1: if I did not become their leader, right, they're begging

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Speaker 1: me as will Okay, So there's that.

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Speaker 2: And who knows what's going to happen in twenty eight

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Speaker 2: because who knows what the issues will be. It's possible

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Speaker 2: that one of the biggest issues for the mid term

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Speaker 2: or the presidential election are going to be how great

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Speaker 2: the tariffs were or what a disaster the tariffs were,

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Speaker 2: depending on how this all turns out. But so Trump

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Speaker 2: last night announces I think it was sixty eight new tariffs.

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Speaker 2: He had this big board with sixty eight countries on

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Speaker 2: there and what their new tariffs are, including a thirty

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Speaker 2: it was a big deal. So on MSNBC, I was

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Speaker 2: watching their late night show that's on at eleven o'clock

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Speaker 2: all about Hayte and try Up all the time. And

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Speaker 2: Stephanie Rule, the host of that show, had a guest

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Speaker 2: on and she sets him up with this anti Trump question,

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Speaker 2: hoping they're all just going to get to do some

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Speaker 2: good Trump bashing and I thought the guy's answer was

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Speaker 5: Trump wants people to focus on the big new tariff freeze,

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Speaker 5: but the reality is he's just pushing the deadline again,

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Speaker 5: like has Taco Tuesday become Taco Thursday at the White House?

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Speaker 6: You know, Steph, I don't think so. I think these

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Speaker 6: are for real. I think tonight's a fairly historic night

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Speaker 6: where I think you can go back and when you

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Speaker 6: write the history, you'll say this is the night that

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Speaker 6: the global free trade era begun by the United States

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Speaker 6: really came to an end. There is now, I think,

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Speaker 6: a permanent tariff curtain around this country.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was some pretty good analysis and there

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Speaker 2: should be more of that. Whether it's going to be

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Speaker 2: which is abnormally fair for HIMSNBC. He goes on to say,

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Speaker 2: whether this turns out to be a good thing for

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Speaker 2: over time. He didn't automatically say it was gonna be

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Speaker 1: The whole taco thing is a stupid narrative. New York

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Speaker 1: taco joke is funny, but the reality is Trump has

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Speaker 1: done it. We live in a much different world of

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Speaker 1: tariffs now than before he came into office. It's real,

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Speaker 2: He talked big and there and things didn't change. No,

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Speaker 2: things changed a lot, and we'll.

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Speaker 1: See how it turns out. Right. Yeah, and this story

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Speaker 1: doesn't really lend itself very well to hit and run,

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Speaker 1: you know, media of whatever sort and what you just

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Speaker 1: quoted the fellas saying kind of anticipate in one of

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Speaker 1: the points I was gonna make. I have some pretty

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Speaker 1: strong opinions about some aspects of this, but we won't

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Speaker 1: know until time passes. Well, hell, we don't even know

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Speaker 1: if the tariffs are going to be an acted stand

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Speaker 1: by for that. But if it were, if what Trump

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Speaker 1: the reason modern democracies often don't solve their problems. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like our budgetary problems it's fairly obvious how we need

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Speaker 1: fix it. And so I readily admit knee jerk analysis.

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Speaker 1: What Trump is doing is either going to be wrong

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Speaker 1: or it's just unfair. It's just dumb. Having said that,

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Speaker 1: and it is absolutely hilarious to me how little coverage

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Speaker 1: this is getting. The US Court of Appeals for the

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Speaker 1: Federal Circuit on Thursday yesterday heard oral arguments in a

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Speaker 1: challenge to the Worldwide Tariffs and the editorial board of

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Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal's lead is, well, that was painful

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Speaker 1: for the Trump administration's lawyer. That is, judge after judge

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Speaker 1: doubted the administration's arguments. And so what you need to

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Speaker 1: know is the administration says the nineteen seventy seven International

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Speaker 1: it is, grants the president's sweeping authority to impose tariffs,

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Speaker 1: and the judges seemed very very skeptical, which doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: prove anything. They'll put out a ruling then we don't

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Speaker 1: into a discussion with the lawyers about, well, that's true,

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Speaker 1: but the law is written broadly to give the president

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Speaker 1: Hang on a second. It's a great question about Congress

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Speaker 1: and how to interpret broad statutes. And you remember us

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Speaker 1: on the libertarian conservative side, we're really happy. Last year

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Speaker 1: You got to figure out what Congress meant, and remember

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Speaker 1: the Major Questions doctrine says Congress must give the president

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Speaker 2: But you said it'll get to the Supreme Court. Is

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Speaker 2: that something they could rule on before October, like jump

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Speaker 2: in and you know, take off their summer shorts and

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, sure, yeah. They could do a couple

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Speaker 1: of things. They could announce immediately that they're not taking

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Speaker 1: the case after this the Appeals Court rules.

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Speaker 2: And which means it stands, and you're anticipating the Appeals

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Speaker 2: Court will rule that Trump can't do this.

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Speaker 1: I'm leaning that way with you know, just a moderate

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Speaker 1: level of confidence. Well, because you know, as you pointed

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Speaker 1: on the oral arguments, but it's a slippery thing to do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I got a question about that, But first we

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Speaker 2: Wow, robot fighting, yes, the foot golf you only use

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Speaker 1: Well belated Happy birthday too, medicare celebrating it's what was it,

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Speaker 1: How do you like?

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Speaker 1: Reminds me of the old Internet meme, how it started,

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Speaker 1: like anything else on earth? And nobody program different stand,

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Speaker 2: We're about to have our healthcare experts. Craig gotwalls on.

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Speaker 2: I'll bet he could do this so on the OCHO network.

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Speaker 2: It's why we decided to have Craig on, because he's

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Speaker 4: Forty five trillion.

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Speaker 1: Craig the healthcare guru attorney, law benefit consultant, Benefit Revolution. Craig,

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Speaker 1: how are you, sir?

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Speaker 7: I'm good, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: How are you a Paul? Just terrific? Well, he's a Paul.

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Speaker 1: I'm terrific. So back to the internet meme. How did

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so, well, if you just medicaid, which is the

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Speaker 7: You can go back to the congressional record and you

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Speaker 1: Well, that's because the standard of living is declined so

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Speaker 1: quite the opposite. Go on, Craig.

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Speaker 7: Sorry, well, yeah, and that's just medicaid. When you combine

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another thing is from the one article that

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Speaker 2: I don't want to now you put you on the

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Speaker 7: No, honestly, Jack, it's a perversion of the tax code.

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Speaker 7: So you know, like third party insurance started in the

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Speaker 7: you know what, that's a good idea. We like you

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Speaker 7: just like everything else, right, just like with with our

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Speaker 7: And to the point now where you know it's it's

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Speaker 1: Wow, we don't want socialized medicine, everybody says, yeah, we

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Speaker 2: Well, So the headline I've been quoting all week long

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Speaker 7: if you tried to peel Medicare back, you'd have I mean,

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Speaker 7: just you know, right left and center, you'd have just

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Speaker 7: absolute mutiny on your hands of the oldsters saying I

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Speaker 7: paid into it for all these years. You can't peel

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Speaker 7: it back. And I will say that when you look

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Speaker 7: at the studies on the efficacy of the programs, it's

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Speaker 7: pretty clear that Medicaid isn't able to show that it

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Speaker 7: causes any better health outcomes. And part of that's because

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Speaker 7: of lifestyle of people that are on Medicaid, the longer

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Speaker 7: wait times, et cetera. But Medicare it's a much more

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Speaker 7: mixed record where you know, there might actually be some

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Speaker 7: benefit to Medicare.

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Speaker 2: But listen to what you just said, there might be

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Speaker 2: some benefit. We're spending a trillion dollars a year on

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Speaker 2: these programs, and the best you can do is say

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Speaker 2: there might be some benefit.

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Speaker 7: Well, cobbling them both together, Jack, it's like one one

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Speaker 7: and three quarter trillion a year when you act them

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Speaker 7: all together. But yes, so because if you were to

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Speaker 7: fund your own health care outside of Medicare, if you

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Speaker 7: were to completely be a free market system where you

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Speaker 7: had a relationship with a doctor and you funded your own,

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Speaker 7: I think it's really clear that your outcomes would be better,

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Speaker 7: you'd be more invested in it, you'd have a better

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Speaker 7: a more personal relationship. So that now if you were

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Speaker 7: to say, well, it's either Medicare or nothing. Either I'm

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Speaker 7: going to have a Medicare doctor, I'm going to have nothing, well,

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Speaker 7: then it's also it's pretty clear that Medicare is better

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Speaker 7: than nothing. But surely that's a tough choice, you see.

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Speaker 1: So one of the most interesting things we've learned from

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Speaker 1: you through the year's Craig, Oh, before I get to that,

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Speaker 1: it is true, is it not that there are now healthy,

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Speaker 1: working age single men on Medicaid?

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Speaker 7: Yes, And then that was yeah. I wanted to circle

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Speaker 7: back to that in your intro because you know, the

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Speaker 7: one big beautiful bill that the draconian requirement is that

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Speaker 7: you now have to either volunteer or take a class

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Speaker 7: for at least eighty hours a month to remain on Medicaid.

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Speaker 7: That's this horrible draconian requirement we put in for able

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Speaker 7: bodied humans.

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Speaker 2: Right, which I understand is pretty easy to game. You know,

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Speaker 2: you have a friend or something that signed some paperwork

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Speaker 2: that claims you volunteer.

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Speaker 7: And so of course I was teaching a class at

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Speaker 7: a university during the pandemic, and we had something similar

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Speaker 7: that came through the pandemic where if you took a class,

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Speaker 7: you got an extra amount of unemployment effectively, and the

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Speaker 7: class quadrupled in size from what it normally was, and

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Speaker 7: you just had people sitting there, not even doing the work,

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Speaker 7: so they could just check the box that they attended

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Speaker 7: and get there and get their gum and cheese.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like when I was trying to hire babysitters

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Speaker 2: through one of the most popular websites in the country

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Speaker 2: and nobody would ever like respond, and somebody finally told me, no, no,

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Speaker 2: that's just so they can fill out their paperwork showing

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Speaker 2: they're looking for a job that qualifies you for variety

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Speaker 2: of things.

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Speaker 1: They don't want the job.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 7: I with a number of client employers in the same

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Speaker 7: situation where you just I've literally walked into one of

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Speaker 7: my clients in a rural county and there's people standard

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Speaker 7: charge get their app pajamas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, can you repeat that? You glitched out?

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Speaker 7: Oh, I'm sorry. I was one of my clients in

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Speaker 7: a rural county that they get a lot of applicants,

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Speaker 7: they have a lot of turnover. I showed up there

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Speaker 7: one day and there's all these there's all these employe

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Speaker 7: potential employees lined up to get their application of HR

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Speaker 7: and some of them are literally standing there in their pajamas.

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Speaker 7: They don't want the job, they just want to check

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Speaker 7: the box.

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Speaker 1: God dang it. That's the problem with socialism. People find workarounds, right,

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Speaker 1: Which brings me to my greater question, back to one

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Speaker 1: of the most interesting things we've learned from you, Craig,

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Speaker 1: and and it go. It has to do with the

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Speaker 1: utterly bizarre, complex and perverse way a lot of this

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Speaker 1: stuff is funded. And I know a lot of those healthy,

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Speaker 1: you know, working age males on medicator on it because

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Speaker 1: of the perverse incentives enacted during Obamacare, and god, you

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Speaker 1: get to the provider taxes and hospital taxes. It's probably

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Speaker 1: too much for what we're going to do here today,

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Speaker 1: but the compensation rates for doctors and hospitals for for Medicaid,

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Speaker 1: for instance, is a fraction of the cost. How does

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Speaker 1: that work?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's gotten so complicated now, Joe, And that's right. Like,

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Speaker 7: on average, a physician or a hospital is reimbursed less

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Speaker 7: than their cost, something like eighty percent of their actual

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Speaker 7: rock cost just to provide surgeries and facilities. So then

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Speaker 7: what happens is there's additional taxes built into the system,

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Speaker 7: primarily on employer sponsored plans that get funneled back to

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Speaker 7: the hospitals on the back end to make sure that

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Speaker 7: they're made whole. Well, of course, this is nothing more

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Speaker 7: than a hidden tax on our employer plans, such that

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Speaker 7: we're paying three hundred percent of what Medicare pays for

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Speaker 7: certain services because of the fact that Medicaid pays like

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Speaker 7: eighty percent of what Medicare pays for certain services.

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Speaker 1: Which enables Congress to get away with not using honest

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Speaker 1: numbers to fund the programs. They stick it to everybody

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Speaker 1: with private insurance. And I would I would guess fewer

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Speaker 1: than ten percent of Americans understand that that is going on, Dahl.

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Speaker 7: I probably even fewer than that. It's such a it

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Speaker 7: took me years in the industry to even figure it out,

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Speaker 7: to follow the money around to all the different convoluted stops.

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Speaker 7: It makes just to see that that's what's actually happening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way ten percent of people understand that. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's unbelievable. Gotline. Yeah, go ahead, Craig.

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Speaker 7: I was gonna say, just because they keep in mind

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Speaker 7: twenty nine percent of us have private healthcare are that

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Speaker 7: are greatly funding these underpayments and this system on the

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Speaker 7: back end.

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Speaker 1: I think it's damned interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that Joe did a little search on the news stories,

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Speaker 2: and of course every stories I've seen is like this too.

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Speaker 2: It's either a glowing isn't it fantastic that this happened?

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Speaker 1: Or neutral.

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Speaker 2: But there's certainly outside of that Wall Street Journal opinion

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Speaker 2: piece that I came across, anybody pointing out this has

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Speaker 2: cost us a lot of money for very little good.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, No, that's right. And it it just it just

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Speaker 7: goes to show once you get something away, you can

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Speaker 7: never peel it back. Because even in even in my industry,

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Speaker 7: I've had I've had coworkers that have been in this

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Speaker 7: industry for years asked me, Hey, what's this? What are

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Speaker 7: these terrible draconian cuts gonna do with Medicaid? What's that?

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Speaker 1: Anything, he's gone. You got tired of us? So and

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Speaker 1: who can blame him? So? Uh, Craig is available. He's

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Speaker 1: actually doing some amazing stuff on uh for companies and

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Speaker 1: individuals to design their own health plan and not pay

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Speaker 1: insurance companies.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We'll have a link at Armstrong and getty dot com

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Speaker 1: to Craig's substack. Again, that's Armstrong and getty dot com

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Speaker 1: under hotlinks and.

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Speaker 2: A frustrating note that seems to be weaving its way

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Speaker 2: through our Friday show, which is not good.

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Speaker 1: You shouldn't be frustrated on Friday.

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Speaker 2: But here is the biggest driver of our debt that

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Speaker 2: we've got in all of government, your Medicare Medicaid thing.

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Speaker 2: And it's a sixty anniversary and you can't get a

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Speaker 2: debate going over how good is it or how good

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Speaker 2: is it not? Or could it be improved or tweaked?

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Speaker 2: Or is it a disaster?

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Speaker 1: No, none of that, no national debate about that at all.

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Speaker 1: Just sixty years ago today, fairy dust angels of the

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Speaker 1: dropped down, free healthcare for the down drodden. Isn't it wonderful?

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Speaker 1: In other news? And then the mean Orange man is

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Speaker 1: trying to end it? Yeah, and this stuff. We were

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Speaker 1: discussing about compensation rates and how Congress passes laws. When

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Speaker 1: they pass, you know, the laws that brought us these things,

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Speaker 1: or continue to fund it, they will say, and of course,

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Speaker 1: will increase the taxes and the compensation to physicians year

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Speaker 1: after year after year to fund this. But then it

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Speaker 1: would be politically really unpopular to increase those taxes, and

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Speaker 1: so they say, yeah, yeah, never mind about that, which

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Speaker 1: increases the gulf between costs and inflow of revenue more

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Speaker 1: and more and more every single year, and you know,

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Speaker 1: requiring it, you know, in requiring the government to stick

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Speaker 1: private tax payers or private insurance people with more and

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Speaker 1: more of the cost without admitting to what's happening. So

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Speaker 1: there's this enormous dishonesty. And perhaps if everybody understood what's

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Speaker 1: going on, we had some honesty, we could have an

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Speaker 1: argument in which lefties would call for very high taxes

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Speaker 1: and there should be no billionaires and we need universal

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Speaker 1: health care, and that's fine. We can have that disagreement

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Speaker 1: and then vote on it. That's what we do around here.

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Speaker 1: But the fact is, nobody knows what the facts are.

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Speaker 1: It's so shrouded in mystery.

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Speaker 2: So we have figured out why Katy Perry and Justin

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Speaker 2: Trudeau are a romantic couple. The answer is there and

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Speaker 2: it's pretty obvious once you hear it. Among other things

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Speaker 2: we've got on the way, stay here.

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Speaker 10: The longest lightning bolt ever on record, as signed US

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Speaker 10: have now earned. A single lightning bolt stretching five hundred

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Speaker 10: and fifteen miles across three states Texas to Missouri was

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Speaker 10: back in twenty seventeen, now confirmed. The megaflash covered the

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Speaker 10: distance in a little more than just seven seconds.

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Speaker 2: The longest light bolt lightning bolt. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: they measured that exactly, but seen by many, many people

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Speaker 2: across the Midwest. That's kind of exciting measure is that

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Speaker 2: climate change? Is that something to be worried about? Yes,

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Speaker 2: this story, if you haven't seen the video is getting

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Speaker 2: lots of attention.

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Speaker 1: If you've seen the video, you know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 9: The terrifying moment a rod in an amusement park started

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Speaker 9: losing control. The rod in Saudi Arabia, going back and

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Speaker 9: forth with for it appears to come loose and then

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Speaker 9: it just splits in half. Many of those people, as

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Speaker 9: you can imagine, we're seriously hurt. With some hospitals nearby

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Speaker 9: declaring a state of emergency. The exact number of people

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Speaker 9: hurt and what went wrong is still unclear.

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Speaker 1: Holy crap, have you seen that video?

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Speaker 2: Plus plus They show it over and over and over

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Speaker 2: in slow motions so that you can like individually look

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Speaker 2: at each person and see did their arm break? Did

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Speaker 2: their foot get cut off? Because it's yes, Katie.

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Speaker 8: It's it's one of those pendulum rides that swings, and

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Speaker 8: it swings all the way to the top, and then

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Speaker 8: the band that it is on just snaps and the

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Speaker 8: whole part that all the people are on slams all

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Speaker 8: the way to the ground.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh that would have been a terrifying half

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Speaker 2: a moment before. And then you land and think, is

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Speaker 2: my neck broken?

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Speaker 1: Geez? That looked like quite the jolt.

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Speaker 8: And that's the day you decide to never go on

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Speaker 8: a ride again.

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Speaker 1: And then the woman running the thing runs away. Is

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Speaker 1: it's crashing?

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Speaker 2: The woman running the thing, it's Saudi Arabia is wearing

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Speaker 2: the full beekeepers outfit where she's just looking through the

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Speaker 2: little slit.

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Speaker 1: That's that and that what an interesting thing that is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're one of the I don't know, wife,

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Speaker 2: slave people that they have in Saudi Arabia, not allowed

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Speaker 2: to cover, allow anything to be seen except your eyeballs

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Speaker 2: while you run the crappily put together right at the carnival.

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Speaker 1: I'm in favor of Carne's being forced to cover themselves,

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Speaker 1: that's true. Get can we get that going around here?

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see nothing but your eyeballs and you

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Speaker 1: could wear sunglasses if you want. Yeah, that's horrifying, terrible.

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Speaker 1: Oh jeez, here's a funny thing I came across. So

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Speaker 1: I mentioned yesterday that Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau, the

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Speaker 1: former Prime Minister of Canada, seemed to be a thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Astronaut Katy Perry, I keep I keep not

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Speaker 1: throwing in that descriptor because they're lesbians. Yeah, today's today's

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Speaker 1: hottest lesbian couple. I'm Katy Perry. Let's got a spat.

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Speaker 2: So astronaut Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau are a romantic item.

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Speaker 2: And it was pointed out on Mark Alpern's video last night.

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Speaker 2: It is the most romantic Trump derangement story ever.

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Speaker 1: And that exactly what's going on. Obviously, that's what driver,

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Speaker 1: it's the I have to be pro Canada with Justin

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Speaker 1: Trudeau and make a big show of it and everything

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Speaker 1: like that, how much we hate America and moving to

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Speaker 1: Canada and.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah that whole world is that. Isn't that fantastic?

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Speaker 2: A romantic Trump derangement syndrome story?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 1: I remember the famous audio from uh the Hillary Clinton

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Speaker 1: victory party there about Katy Perry's crying, Righty Gaga's crying.

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Speaker 1: On a slightly serious note about politics, New York Times

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Speaker 1: and political reporting today that Donald Trump is raising money

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Speaker 1: in an unprecedented at an unprecedented clip for lame duck.

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Speaker 1: Usually he's a lame duck. He can't raise any money.

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Speaker 1: He wants to give money to somebodyho's about to be

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Speaker 1: out of office. But the president's primary super pac brought in

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Speaker 1: on an unbelievable one hundred and seventy seven million dollars

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Speaker 1: in the first half of the year, and it's leadership

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Speaker 1: pack raised twenty eight million dollars. Nobody's ever seen anything

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Speaker 1: like this before. Yeah, that's something for a lame duck.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff.

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Speaker 2: Two hundred million dollars total in the first six months,

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Speaker 2: with people expecting him to still have power.

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Speaker 1: I guess. As I've said a thousand times, Donald J.

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Speaker 1: Makes me insane in a lot of ways, But man,

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Speaker 1: is he making great progress on some fronts the border,

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Speaker 1: you know, most notably, and rolling back the climate cult.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff on that next hour. Hope you can stay

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Speaker 1: with us, Armstrong and Getty