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Speaker 1: should be. It took forever, Bucky, but we finally got

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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals underway. And I'm gonna say this because

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Speaker 1: it's such a rare occurrence that it's worth mentioning. So

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Speaker 1: after the Celtics forced a Game seven on that miracle

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Speaker 1: everyone obviously picking the Celtics at home and they were

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Speaker 1: gonna make history. And I said, I have a sense

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Speaker 1: Boston's gonna bleep in their pants in that game, and

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Speaker 1: they look worn out, and that incredible Miami Heat team

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Speaker 1: jumped all over them. And that's how we got to

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Speaker 1: where we are right now, an eight seed the Miami

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Speaker 1: Before we get into a little talk about what's to come,

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Speaker 1: in this series, what we saw in Game one of

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Speaker 1: this series. How compelled are you, Bucky Brooks to watch

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm really compelled because I'm a Miami Heat fan.

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Speaker 2: But even if I wasn't a fan of the Heat,

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Speaker 2: I would be compelled because this is an opportunity for

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Speaker 2: an anonymity since the ball with that's really the last

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Speaker 2: so to have an opportunity doing the run up to

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Speaker 2: the finals, to see him dominate and do all those

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Speaker 2: shouldn't have been a three time MVP.

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Speaker 3: He's done everything.

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Speaker 2: I would have been compelled to see what he does

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Speaker 2: because this was the last frontier. It's the last question

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Speaker 1: This reminds me a little, and I always go back

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Speaker 1: into history of the nineteen seventy one World Series and

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Speaker 1: people discovering Roberto Clemente. Now Clementi obviously had been a

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Speaker 1: But in nineteen seventy one, he put on a show.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he just dominated that seven game series. The

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Speaker 1: not like he just suddenly came out of nowhere. He's

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Speaker 1: I watch Jokic's game and it's old school. And when

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Speaker 1: I say old school, we go back in time. So

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Speaker 1: for most of the listeners out there, when we say

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Speaker 1: was way back in the late fifties and through the sixties.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you how Bill Russell played the center position.

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Speaker 1: He was a defensive oriented center, blocked a lot of shots.

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Speaker 1: back to Bill Walton with the Portland Trailblazers in the seventies.

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Speaker 1: These were playmaking centers who could score if they wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Now that is the prototype of its center should be.

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, Bucky, whether or not we're going to

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Speaker 2: I think what you've seen is a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a return to the old school. I mean, even if

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Speaker 2: you look at the Miami Heat, they've shown that you

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Speaker 2: can drive through the rim, try and collect free throws

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Speaker 2: three point strip. With the Denver Nuggets, they have the

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Speaker 2: best of both worlds because they have a big man

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Speaker 2: who plays big. You know, the difference between Joker and

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Speaker 2: wants to play like a guard much like Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 2: Joker has the ability to do all those guard like things,

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Speaker 2: to do. And so yeah, it should be a greater

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Speaker 2: appreciation for I would say old school big man play.

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Speaker 2: And hopefully I know we have all these kids playing

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Speaker 2: But if you look at Joker and you look at

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Speaker 2: he just confounds and befuddles these defenders in the block,

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Speaker 2: I will spend more time in the block man just

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Speaker 2: being a big guy that can dominate it. You cannot

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Speaker 1: You know, after Kareem's sophomore year at UCLA, they outlawed

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Speaker 1: guys that Bill Walton they could not dunk in college,

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Speaker 1: meaning they actually had to learn how to shoot the ball.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Jokuch. When he's around the rim,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter the angle. He knows where he is

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Speaker 1: and he's able to do little turnaround scoops wherever. But

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Speaker 1: he has a great sense. How many times do we

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Speaker 1: see big guys in this league blow layups. It's like,

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Speaker 1: how is this at seven feet missing that shot because

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Speaker 1: they don't shoot that ball. They don't shoot that ball

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Speaker 1: you'll get has such a great sense around the rim,

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Speaker 1: from different angles. So I'm I'm hoping call it old school.

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Speaker 1: It's not old school, it's where we are right now.

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Speaker 1: You're watching it right now. People are just blown away

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Speaker 1: by the multifaceted, non athletic Nicola Jokic. And I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: if you could do that with this guy a second

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Speaker 1: if you taught them that brand of basketball, how great

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Speaker 1: those teams would be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you'd like to think that those teams would

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Speaker 2: be outstanding, maybe outstanding because they're developed in the air.

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Speaker 2: A team that is able to mix power with skill,

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Speaker 2: finesse and the things that we used to appreciate. I mean,

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Speaker 2: think about I mean it's crazy that it's been thirty years,

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Speaker 2: but think about the big men. I was saying their

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Speaker 2: heyday when you had an opportunity to watch a chem

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Speaker 2: Olajuwan and Shaq and Patrick Ewing and David Robinson, Tim

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Speaker 2: Duncan all in that era. I mean, Kevin Garnett, Karl

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Speaker 3: And you can live at the free throw line.

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Speaker 2: I think what you're seeing is in this league, man,

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Speaker 2: you have to have a way to generate points that

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Speaker 2: aren't always difficult, and in the postseason when everyone the

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Speaker 2: game kind of bogs down and everyone has the ability

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Speaker 2: to really hone in on the game plan, you have

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Speaker 2: to have someone who can go and get a bucket,

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Speaker 2: someone who can go and get files to kind of

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Speaker 2: bring some calmness to the game. And we've seen with

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Speaker 2: the big man like Joker, they've been able to do

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Speaker 1: And of course in this Game one, he basically didn't

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Speaker 1: and he had twelve points in that fourth quarter when

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Speaker 1: Miami was nudging a little bit toward them. So this

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Speaker 1: is one of those series that I think, in fact,

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Speaker 1: there's many layers to the series. By the way, one

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Speaker 1: quick note, and I know you're a Miami Heat guy, Bucky.

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Speaker 1: So the Miami Heater the second eight seed to get

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Speaker 1: to the NBA Finals. The previous one, coach by Jeff

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Speaker 1: Van Gundy, were the ninety nine Knicks. By the way,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of parallels in these two NBA finals

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Speaker 1: because the nineteen ninety nine Knicks in the finals played

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Speaker 1: for the first time who had migrated from the ABA,

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Speaker 1: the San Antonio Spurs. And here we are, all these

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Speaker 1: That series ended in a four game sweep. Was it

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Speaker 1: wasn't for one, I don't believe, So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know it either way, sweep, gentlemen sweep

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Speaker 1: forever year. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't much of a contest,

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Speaker 1: let's put it that way. But the bottom line here

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Speaker 1: is is that something's going to have to change, Draft Stickley,

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Speaker 1: if the Heat are to make this a competitive NBA Finals,

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Speaker 1: Steve Harbin and Bucky Brooks. This is Fox Sports Saturday

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Speaker 1: By the way, we want to welcome our new affiliate

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Speaker 1: in Peoria, Illinois, Peoria Sports Radio one o one point one,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to our FSR family, Peorias Sports Radio one oh

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Speaker 1: one point one. Actually, the Harbin family. We have roots

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Speaker 1: Mount Carrol, Illinois's right on the border of Illinois and Iowa,

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Speaker 1: years ago. Speaking of Iowa, Iowa, Sam, who we were

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Speaker 1: I don't know questioning whether he would return after flying

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: I was just going to say, you know, England, London

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Speaker 7: was nice with nice weather, but Peoria, Illinois, you've never

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Speaker 1: I assume I have never been to Peoria. No underratedly

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Speaker 1: nice town, nice town, good looking.

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Speaker 7: It a town is a city city, I'd say, I'd

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Speaker 7: say it's six figures. I'd have to double check that.

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Speaker 7: But Peoria happy for that. That doesn't compare to let's say,

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Speaker 7: But it's over one hundred thousands, I guess, And yeah,

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Speaker 7: great for them, Peoria. Yeah, it's not. It's in western Illinois.

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Speaker 1: so we are we are breaking this down. What's going

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Speaker 1: on right now? As far as these NBA Finals are concerned.

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Speaker 1: By the way, so the the Nuggets had ten days

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Speaker 1: that'll shake off pretty quickly. Well they should it off

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Speaker 3: Stretch it out.

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Speaker 1: We need to we momentum, go back to backs.

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Speaker 3: We don't want back to well.

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Speaker 1: It's not a back to back. How about every other day.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it seems you can get an extra travel

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Speaker 3: No, no, not too soon?

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Speaker 2: All right, give Miami multiple days back, bounce back and

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Speaker 1: By the way, I wanted to mention one thing about

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Speaker 1: and that is organizational continuity. Once again, we're seeing a

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Speaker 1: scrambling of all these coaches, Bucky, where guys are fired

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Speaker 1: then you have Malone, Michael Malone, who's what is it

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't seem to be a genius idea that

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Speaker 1: continuity of these two organizations to me, again, we're talking

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Speaker 1: them put the game plan together, develop the players, create

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a great plan.

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Speaker 2: Both organizations know exactly who they are and they take

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Speaker 2: how do you take what these guys have done in

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Speaker 2: And so it sounds great on paper, but unless you

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Speaker 1: It's amazing how winning can really make a coach more effective.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about building respect in a room.

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Speaker 1: So these guys, this nucleus of players for Denver have

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Speaker 1: he's been selling an idea to them year after year

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Speaker 1: what every organization obviously is looking for.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's just it's just way you want to make

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Speaker 1: And then what had happens of courses, And we've seen

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's impacting. That's kind of part of it.

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Speaker 1: But more then, that's because certain coaches believe that they

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Speaker 2: So it is just a matter of understanding exactly who

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Speaker 8: going to see any upsets here. The thing about Novak

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Speaker 8: Djokovic is that he's only won two out of all

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Speaker 8: the Grand slams on clay. This is not a service

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Speaker 8: that suits his game very well. But with no Rafina

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Speaker 8: doll And we heard a report today that he's going

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Speaker 8: to be out at least in the next five months

439
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Speaker 8: because of some injury issues. It's either him, it's al KaAZ.

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Speaker 8: Here is a name that you're going to want to remember,

441
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Speaker 8: Dan Altmeyer. He beat Yanix Center in the second round.

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Speaker 8: Dan Altmeyer is a guy that I got to call

443
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Speaker 8: a challenger event of him just about seven weeks ago.

444
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Speaker 8: And this guy's a filthy backhand and he is on

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Speaker 8: a charge here. He's got Grigor Dimitrov today, So somebody

446
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Speaker 8: to keep an eye. Regardless of his outcome in this tournament,

447
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Speaker 8: he's going up the charts.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the tennis thing and this thing about

449
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Speaker 1: sports like this, you know, it's an individual sport. He

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Speaker 1: needs stars. And with the retirement of Serena and Federer

451
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Speaker 1: and Nadal says next year will probably be his last

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Speaker 1: year Djokovic has left. I mean, there's this sport desperately

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Speaker 1: needs a breakout star that's going to start dominating some

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Speaker 1: of these Grand Slam tournaments.

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Speaker 8: Well, and I think I think Bucky will like this

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Speaker 8: because on the American side for men's tennis, Ben Shelton

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Speaker 8: could be that guy. Now, his background, he won national

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Speaker 8: championships at the University of Florida, but the dude was

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Speaker 8: a quarterback in high school. So he's got the football

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Speaker 8: athleticism that you rarely see in a tennis player. His dad,

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Speaker 8: Brian is the head coach for the University of Florida,

462
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Speaker 8: has all kinds of great athletic jeans. But you're talking

463
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Speaker 8: about a guy who's built to be a quarterback and

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Speaker 8: take some punishment. And now he's back there hitting four

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Speaker 8: hands and backhands. That is somebody to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 8: He is inside the top fifty. He's only, I believe,

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty years old. So for looking for an American man,

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Speaker 8: which we haven't had since Samprius at Agacy and even Roddick,

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Speaker 8: if you want to go down that road, we're looking

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Speaker 8: for the next American star, it's going to be Ben Shelton.

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Speaker 1: All right, there, it is, there, it is Tennis. Couldn't

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Speaker 1: believe that tennis right there by the way, Sam was

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Speaker 1: taking notes during that entire time.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Sam, Sam oftentimes gets tetris confused with tennis.

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Speaker 4: So I just have to right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a big fan of Tetris.

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Speaker 4: Yes. Yes.

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Speaker 8: By the way, Steve, you're talking about the changes between

479
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Speaker 8: game one game two of the NBA Finals. One change

480
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Speaker 8: could be that we see Tyler Hero in that game.

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Speaker 8: Miami Heat head coach Eric Spolster said today that they're

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Speaker 8: not going to say yet whether or not Hero can play.

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Speaker 8: He's dealing with that injury to his right hand, that

484
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Speaker 8: surgically repaired right hand, But by tomorrow Spolster will have

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Speaker 8: an indication on whether Hero can play. He was out

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Speaker 8: Game one of the Finals, which is a game that

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Speaker 8: the Nuggets won. NBA four Julius Randall he'll be back

488
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Speaker 8: time for the Knicks training camp in the fall, but

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Speaker 8: he did, according to the team, have surgery on his

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Speaker 8: left ankle. Former Yukon head coach Kevin Ollie is going

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Speaker 8: to be joining the Brooklyn Nets coaching staff, and when

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Speaker 8: he was a college head coach, he won the national

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Speaker 8: championship with Yukon in twenty fourteen. A ton of baseball

494
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Speaker 8: going on as well, and the Washington Nationals right hander

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Speaker 8: Stephen Strasburg, this according to the Washington Post, is dealing

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Speaker 8: with severe nerve damage and there is a whole lot

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Speaker 8: of speculation now, guys, that he may never pitch in

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Speaker 8: a game again. Stephen Strasburg may never get in a game.

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Speaker 1: Know what he is going to do, though, continue to

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Speaker 1: collect insane phex thirty five million year. We're never retiring,

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Speaker 1: I mean, is that unbelievable. He's only pitched, I believe

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Speaker 1: since the twenty nineteen World Series. Arreys, I think he's

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Speaker 1: pitched five games. Yeah, and he's collected one hundred million

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Speaker 1: dollars with more to come.

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Speaker 8: Not bad former San Diego State aztec Strasburg. Just a

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Speaker 8: couple of notes as far as games going on right now.

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Speaker 8: The Phillies have taken lead one and nothing against the

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Speaker 8: Nationals in the top of the third. Tigers and White

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Speaker 8: Sox are going to extra innings. Not a whole lot

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Speaker 8: of offense their seven combined hits one to one. Is

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Speaker 8: the score coming up At about seven to fifteen Eastern

512
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Speaker 8: time on Fox Television, We've got the Dodgers hosting the Yankees.

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Speaker 8: And lastly, guys, the Red Sox finish off a win

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Speaker 8: against the Rays eight to five, with the Socks scoring

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Speaker 8: five runs in the sixth inning.

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Speaker 1: And lastly, the memorial turn of PJ. To our third round, a.

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Speaker 8: New leader Bucky and Steve David Lipski eight unders, got

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Speaker 8: a one shot leader Mark Hubbard going into the back

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Speaker 8: nine here. Hadeki Matsuyamu had the lead going into today,

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Speaker 8: leading by as many as two shots. This is a

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Speaker 8: Steve Hartman special. Had a six on a par three

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Speaker 8: on the back nine, a couple three consecutive bogies on

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Speaker 8: his round today has.

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Speaker 4: Completely fallen down the leader board.

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Speaker 8: But a six on a par three, as they send

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Speaker 8: it back to Bucky and Steve, that sounds like a

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Speaker 8: Steve Hartman special on the golf course.

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, there's no such thing that's a

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Speaker 1: part three on my card. It may say part for me,

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Speaker 1: but I'm always adding at least a number to every hole. Right,

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Speaker 1: That's that's the way pretty much. It's called a handicap, right,

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Speaker 1: that's the way you do it. So all right, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. By the way, a little update on

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Speaker 1: the Strasburg situation. Since the twenty nineteen World Series, he

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Speaker 1: has actually started eight games. He has a record of

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Speaker 1: one and four. He has been collecting thirty five million

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Speaker 1: dollars for each of these four years, and he has

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Speaker 1: three more years guaranteed at thirty five million dollars, So

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Speaker 1: he has collected one hundred and forty million so far

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Speaker 1: for one win and three more years even if he

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Speaker 1: never pitches again. So I guess this would be the

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Speaker 1: argument that the NFL has about not guarantee more contracts.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're on the hook for that doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: what whether he pitches or not. You got to pay

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Speaker 1: all that money out. Can you imagine at the end

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Speaker 1: of it. I mean, seriously, the NFL is getting a

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Speaker 1: little more in terms of guaranteeing deals that they're never

548
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Speaker 1: going all the way like the no Look at Chris Bosh.

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Speaker 1: I mean he he collected about four years of pay

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Speaker 1: after he was forced to retire. Was you know it

551
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Speaker 1: was a career ending injury, but still, I mean you

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Speaker 1: had to pay him for multiple years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's part of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, it is is a part of

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Speaker 2: It's one of those things that you have to always

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Speaker 2: be mindful love, and so we have seen it with

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Speaker 2: these situations when it comes to doing the extra. No

558
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Speaker 2: one wants to do extra. Everyone wants to do the ordinary,

559
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Speaker 2: but still get the great results. You got to do

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Speaker 2: extra to make it happen. And so you've seen these

561
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Speaker 2: people try and throw with this chum out there. See,

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Speaker 2: I didn't get their guys to bite and say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know what, we don't we don't flip the switch

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Speaker 2: on Monday. Everyone's gonna show up.

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Speaker 1: So the way I added up Steven Strasburg, if he

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Speaker 1: never pitches again, we'll collect two hundred and forty five

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Speaker 1: million dollars for one win. That's not bad. No, not

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Speaker 1: a bad thing. A right, let's get back to the

569
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Speaker 1: NBA finals here, Bucky. So the one thing that was clear,

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Speaker 1: and this was really no seekert going into this matchup

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Speaker 1: between the Heat and Nuggets, is that physically the Nuggets

572
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Speaker 1: are just a much bigger team. They're a bigger team

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Speaker 1: across the board. So the question being is if you're

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Speaker 1: the smaller opponent, if you are David versus Goliath, how

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Speaker 1: do you even the playing field? How how do the

576
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Speaker 1: Heat attack the Nuggets in a manner that they can

577
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Speaker 1: equal the playing field? If they can oo.

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Speaker 3: This is a tough one.

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Speaker 2: So when you look at the matchups, one team is

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Speaker 2: clearly superior in terms of talent. A lot of times

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Speaker 2: though you're a spolstering those things, you talk to your team,

582
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Speaker 2: and you say, hey, tough team wins, But the problems

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Speaker 2: you run against with the Denver Nuggets, they're talented and tough.

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Speaker 2: Years ago, I had a coach tell me, like, ultimately,

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Speaker 2: which you're looking for in the team is a collection

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Speaker 2: of blue chip talents that have blue collar mentalities. They're

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Speaker 2: gonna do the dirty work in those things. And so

588
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Speaker 2: the Nuggets are willing to do the dirty work. So

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Speaker 2: the only thing that the Miami Heat can do is

590
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Speaker 2: they got to find a way to make the game

591
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Speaker 2: end up being played in the muck. It has to

592
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Speaker 2: be a load down scoring, grinded out, grinding a million

593
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Speaker 2: free throws, whatever it is, but it has to be

594
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Speaker 2: a very slow, deliberate pace to the game because Nuggets

595
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Speaker 2: want to run. What I think everyone has to pay

596
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Speaker 2: attention to is that last game is gonna be tough

597
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Speaker 2: on the Heat. Anyway, play on Monday, emotional win. You

598
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Speaker 2: get there probably Tuesday morning, you're trying to figure out.

599
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Speaker 2: You got two walkthroughs, maybe a little light pratice. Then

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Speaker 2: you're playing on Thursday. I don't know if that's enough time.

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Speaker 2: And so what they're probably hoping on is hopefully they

602
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Speaker 2: can maybe stay close enough still one early. So by

603
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Speaker 2: the time they get their sea legs back, when they

604
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Speaker 2: get back to Miami, they can kind of start throwing

605
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Speaker 2: in some defenses and wrinkles that have slowed them down.

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Speaker 1: Well, one thing that's got to change is two free

607
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Speaker 1: throws in a game, an all time NBA Finals record

608
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Speaker 1: low doesn't even seem possible, especially because the Heat are

609
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Speaker 1: not necessarily a team that camps at the three point line.

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Speaker 1: So Jimmy Pohler is not a guy that sits at

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Speaker 1: the three point line. He's a guy that's aggressive. And

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Speaker 1: he took it on himself after the game. He said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: it starts with me. We got we gotta go to

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Speaker 1: the hoop man. We gotta start to create a foul.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you pick up a couple of quick fouls on yok,

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Speaker 1: get him to sit down for half a quarter and

617
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: do some damage that way. But if you're not attacking,

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00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: you're really just playing into Denver's hands.

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Speaker 2: You're playing in their hands, and they have superior talent.

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00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: They're longer than you. Everywhere, they have people that are

621
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Speaker 2: sitting there at the room just disturbing shots and coming

622
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: over with those like whatever I call them, like the

623
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: little cheap shots, not cheap shots, but like the little

624
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: coming over it, close out, make it hard, make it difficult.

625
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: You got all the size in the middle of the pain.

626
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: And so I think what happens is you get intimidated.

627
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Speaker 2: You don't want to go in there and deal with

628
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Speaker 2: the contact. You don't want to get your shot blow.

629
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Speaker 2: And so it's funny because the Celtics look huge compared

630
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 2: to the Heat when we watch this series, and then

631
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Speaker 2: it's like the Nuggets are supersized, supersized because it's not

632
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: even Joker, it's I mean, Gordon and everybody.

633
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Speaker 3: I mean the way.

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Speaker 2: Gordon was so aggressive going hunting a shot early in

635
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Speaker 2: the game. Yeah, pounding on it. It's gonna be tough.

636
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Speaker 2: There's a school of thought that some people say, hey, man,

637
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Speaker 2: why don't you just single up on Joker and let

638
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: him get as much as he wants and don't playoffs

639
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,239
Speaker 2: the shooters, make the shooters take tough shots because they

640
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: haven't shot well when they've been uncontested. But the way

641
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Speaker 2: Joker plays, man, he may go for sixty five, like

642
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Speaker 2: that's the thing you can you can you can factor

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Speaker 2: in all right, we may get to one ten, he

644
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Speaker 2: may get fifty or.

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Speaker 1: He's had a fifty point game in this postseason. He

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Speaker 1: can pretty much do what he wants to do. And

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Speaker 1: even if you were to single cover him, his vision

648
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Speaker 1: on the court, his passing ability. Again, it points out

649
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Speaker 1: when you have a great passing big man. To me,

650
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Speaker 1: there's nothing more valuable. Bill Walton was this way back

651
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Speaker 1: in the day. He can see, first of all, being

652
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Speaker 1: as big as he is, he can see the whole court,

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Speaker 1: and guys play off of that. So even if you're

654
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Speaker 1: singling up on him and seemingly trying to lock down

655
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Speaker 1: everybody else on the court, he'll still find them. It's

656
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Speaker 1: almost to say someone is indefensible. Well, I guess there's

657
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Speaker 1: a defense for everybody. The problem for the Miami Heat

658
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Speaker 1: is I don't know what formula they can put together

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Speaker 1: with the players they have. There's a reason they were

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Speaker 1: the eighth seed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's a reason. There's a reason why

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Speaker 3: they were af seed.

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Speaker 2: Like looking out of their regular season was I mean,

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Speaker 2: they were spotty at best when it came to it.

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Speaker 2: But we said, if they feed it out, they could

666
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Speaker 2: be a handful. And so I'm sitting here looking at

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Speaker 2: what they can do, and we talked about a single

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Speaker 2: upon Joker smother everybody else, or double team Joker every

669
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Speaker 2: time and make him randomly find the guy, but we

670
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Speaker 2: won't double team off the same guy and backs back lists.

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Speaker 2: That's there, but it's a lot trying to keep up

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Speaker 2: with who's dublin, who's switching, who's moving where on personnel?

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Speaker 2: And then the final thing is ultimately you just got

674
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Speaker 2: to you got to play better, get shoot better, because

675
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Speaker 2: as bad as the game looked, it only looked bad

676
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Speaker 2: because Miami was missing threes.

677
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: Miami hits a couple of those threes. The game is

678
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Speaker 3: nip and tuck.

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Speaker 1: A league or sport dreams about having that charismatic star

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Speaker 1: that not only dominates on the court or on the field,

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Speaker 1: but some of you can market. I think a lot

682
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Speaker 1: of people now are sitting there looking at yoga seeing

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Speaker 1: all right, right now, he is the best player in

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Speaker 1: this league. Is that a good thing for the NBA?

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Speaker 1: How to market? Nicola will tell you how? This is

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Steve Harvin Bucky Brooks. This is Fox Sports Saturday. We're

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Speaker 1: coming alive from the ti iraq dot com studios. All right,

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Speaker 1: So the NBA has got a problem. Nicola Jokic is

694
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Speaker 1: not the problem as far as the game he's playing.

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00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: I love the game he plays, and I think a

696
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: lot of people are enjoying the game that he's playing

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00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: right now. But if you're a league and suddenly you're

698
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Speaker 1: looking at the distinct possibility that the Nuggets are not

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Speaker 1: a one and done team. They have a nucleus of

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Speaker 1: young players. It is conceivable that the Nuggets could be

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Speaker 1: winning a championship this year and a couple more after that.

702
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: So that means that Jokic could be center stage for

703
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Speaker 1: several years to come as the face of your league.

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Speaker 1: How do you market Nicola Jokic. Sam's got some ideas,

705
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Speaker 1: But before I get to Sam, Bucky, I got to

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00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: get to you, all right. So you're the marketing guy

707
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: for the NBA, and you're like, okay, by the way,

708
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: you remember they've sort of had a similar situation with Yannis.

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00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: How do you market a guy that's from Greece with

710
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: a last name of Aunchta Compo and they really haven't

711
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: done a great job. Plus, he plays in a smaller

712
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: market in Milwaukee, similar to the Okic situation in Denver.

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00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: It's not New York, it's not Chicago, it's not la

714
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: and Giannis, despite winning a championship and a couple of

715
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: MVPs from a PR standpoint, still flies under the radar. So, Bucky,

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00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: what do you do with Jokic?

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Speaker 3: Man? This is a tough one.

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00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 2: This is a tough one because he's such a good

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00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: player within this how do you make it where he

720
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 2: can can transcend lines meaning that everyone has an appetite

721
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: for his game. I think the only thing you can

722
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: do as you market him is no gimmicks. Look, man,

723
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: you just got to put the focus on his basketball skills,

724
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: how dominant he is, the fact that he's a two

725
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: time MVP should have been a three time MVP, and

726
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Speaker 2: you have to put it on the on court stuff.

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Speaker 2: I just don't think with him because even when you

728
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 2: hear him talk in articulately like he's great, he's a

729
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: great teammate, but he does he deflects so much of

730
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: the attention away from him on his teammates. I don't

731
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: know if he can ever be a marketing machine or

732
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: like where you can just pump all this stuff out.

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Speaker 2: I think you have to put it on his game.

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Speaker 2: He is one of the best that we've seen. We

735
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Speaker 2: may not see another guy like this for a while. YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 2: You have to kind of talk him up like some

737
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Speaker 2: of the other great big men. And because remember, I

738
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Speaker 2: don't know if they've ever been able to really market

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Speaker 2: a big man. Shack was able to, but his game

740
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Speaker 2: was power and a little different.

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Speaker 1: Well, look at Tim Duncan. I mean, if you're going

742
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Speaker 1: to make a comparison to anybody to Jokic, it's Duncan.

743
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Speaker 1: I mean, Duncan was a consonant, the Big Fundamental. Any

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Speaker 1: attention on me.

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Speaker 3: The Big Fundamental, that's his nickname.

746
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 1: Right, The guy won five NBA Championships and flew under

747
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Speaker 1: the radar through the entire career. All right, now, Sam,

748
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: you're known as a marketing genius. Some things you throw

749
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: out there are absurd, ridiculous, laughable, But every once in

750
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Speaker 1: a while, something sticks. So what do you have for

751
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: Nicola Jokic. You got to pitch all your ideas. You

752
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: gotta see you it sticks, all right.

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Speaker 7: So my thing with Nicola Jokic is sometimes people might

754
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 7: call him nicola or nicola, So how about a soft

755
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 7: drink called nicola, like Coca cola or RC cola. Or

756
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 7: he comes in and they resuscitate the old ricola and

757
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 7: he does mekola and that becomes this thing because you know,

758
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 7: he soothes the itchy sore throat of the Denver Nuggets

759
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 7: fan base and anybody loves basketball, so he could come

760
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Speaker 7: in and they and it's funny thing because he's so

761
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Speaker 7: such a serious guy a lot of the time, so

762
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Speaker 7: if he does a silly commercial like that, it might

763
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Speaker 7: get a good reaction.

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Speaker 1: Well that's that's the point right there. He just looks

765
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Speaker 1: like a big bouncer. We always love to see somebody

766
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: out of character. He's a no nonsense guy. Give him

767
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: a little nine. I mean, look a look at my tumbo.

768
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no right, no no no, no

769
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: no no. So I mean he was able to use

770
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: that as yeah, exactly. So what you need to do.

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Speaker 4: Is to.

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Speaker 1: Have him agree to do something that would be out

773
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Speaker 1: of characters, which would instantly endear him to everybody.

774
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Speaker 7: And I think the Nicola that thing could be great

775
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 7: because we haven't seen that would be a copyright infringement. Well,

776
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 7: but he works for you to be working for Ricola

777
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 7: doing the Nicola coff trap.

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Speaker 1: I think they have a lot of money that we

779
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: haven't remember. Those guys that are up in like the

780
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Speaker 1: rice Alps. But I know that those big.

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Speaker 7: Horn tubes and they're blowing those and down relates to

782
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Speaker 7: twenty twenty three something that was back in nineteen eighty eight. No,

783
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 7: those commercials are running as recently is maybe fifteen years ago.

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00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: I swear.

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Speaker 1: I are Nicola Soft dren Again if you're looking for

786
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: commercial marketing, and again, this is this is the dream

787
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: of every sport. The reason that Michael Jordan or a

788
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods went into the stratosphere is that their game

789
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: and their personality translated to those that could care less

790
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: about basketball or care less than golf. That's your dream

791
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: that your biggest star has that crossover appeal.

792
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 7: Michael Jordan made undershirts and underwear. You know Haynes. He

793
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 7: turned that into something.

794
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: That he didn't have to. He could put his name

795
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Speaker 1: on any.

796
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Speaker 6: But the Haynes.

797
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 7: There's nothing crazy about Haynes undershirts and underwear.

798
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Speaker 1: I mean it's not that interesting. I'll just be honest. Yeah,

799
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: that's your dream. I don't know. Look right now, Denver

800
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: still has work to do. They got to get three

801
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: more wins in order to corral this first championship. All right,

802
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: We'll have much more NBA finals to talk about down

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Speaker 1: the road. Some of the coaching changes of the NBA.

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Speaker 1: We turned to the NFL. Yeah, OTAs, what's going on?

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Speaker 1: We got all the latest Steve Harvin, Bucky Brooks. This

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Speaker 1: much for joining us here in our Fox Sports Radio family. Now,

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Speaker 1: one thing you're going to find out about this show,

831
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Speaker 1: and I have someone of the caliber of Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 1: in the room, a man that has worn every imaginable

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Speaker 1: I mean, is there anything you haven't done under the

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Speaker 1: umbrella of the National Football League?

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Speaker 2: I mean there's so much more to do, Like there's yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's like games.

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Speaker 1: How good of a general manager would you be, Bucky?

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Speaker 3: Oh? I mean who says that they would be a

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Speaker 2: I think hopefully I would be smart enough to surround

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844
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Speaker 1: Well, the Raiders could probably use your help, no because sorry,

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00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: all right, So look at and Mike Mayock. You know,

849
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,799
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Speaker 1: became a general manage journey. He made some good picks,

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Speaker 1: made some bad picks, but every general manager has good

852
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Speaker 1: and bad. I've known a lot of gms over the years.

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00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: I worked for one named Al Davis, who was a

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00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: de facto GM as owner of that team. Bobby Bether

855
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Speaker 1: was a close friend. Oh yeah, great Bobby Bether and

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Speaker 1: I knew extremely well. He used me a lot doing that.

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Speaker 1: He yes, father C. J. Bethard and member of the

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame. So they're obviously are great

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Speaker 1: success stories out there. But I'm a little confused with

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Speaker 1: the Raiders' situation because a week ago last Sunday, Rich

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00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: and I were talking about the real possibility that Tom Brady,

862
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Speaker 1: who's seeking partial ownership of the Silver and Black, may

863
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: first have to take some time off to be the

864
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: quarterback of the team because Jimmy Garoppolo had foot surgery

865
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: and they're being a little choy about his situation. But

866
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: when you have a guy who is given an eleven

867
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Speaker 1: million dollar signing bonus and then that bonus is withdrawn

868
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Speaker 1: and lumped into his salary, which by the way, is

869
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 1: only guaranteed if he makes the.

870
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Speaker 3: Team, he's gonna make the team. Made the team.

871
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: That's assuming that there are people out there, Budcky that say,

872
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo will never see the light of day as

873
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Speaker 1: the Raiders quarterback. Why else would they do that with

874
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Speaker 1: his signing bonus.

875
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 3: They have to do it.

876
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: From a procedural standpoint, you want to make sure that

877
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Speaker 2: you protect the team and protect the owner. You don't

878
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: want to make sure. You want to make sure that

879
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 2: you don't give out exorbitant money to someone who's not

880
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: going to play. And so just to protect yourself in

881
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: the contract, you want to make sure that that is

882
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: a presisting condition if you hurst that, we don't want

883
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Speaker 2: to be on the hook for those things. Just to

884
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Speaker 2: kind of make sure that, uh, mister Javis, do you

885
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: call Mark Davis?

886
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 3: Mister Davis?

887
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: Now hard for me to me. He's Mark.

888
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: Okay, so we're talking about Mark Davis.

889
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: So just to make sure that Mark Davis has protected

890
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: the team is protected from having the Dolau cash. But

891
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 2: this is not uncommon. If you have an injury you

892
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 2: signed for a team. In those things, sometimes they point

893
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: to those injuries. Make sure you know it's covered with

894
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: the waiver. A if you hurt this again, we won't

895
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: protect it. But if anything else happens, yeah, you get

896
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 2: all your money and stuff like that.

897
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 1: All right, So for the Raider fans out there, update

898
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: this on this Garoppolo situation.

899
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: So my thing with the Garoppolo thing is, look, he

900
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: had foot surgery. He has had a series of injuries obviously,

901
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: regardless with Jimmy Garoppolo, if this popped up or not,

902
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 2: you worry about him because durability has been as big

903
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: as concern. He's been oft injured, but when he's played,

904
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: he's played pretty well for his teams. For the Raiders,

905
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: I think is a worthwhile risk because potentially he's an

906
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: upgrade over Derek Carr based on the connection, the chemistry,

907
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: the knowledge and expertise that he has in this offense

908
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: with Josh McDaniels is just a notch above what Derek

909
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: Carr had. And so Josh McDaniels and those guys wanted

910
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: their own quarterback, and though Jimmy Garoppolo's own quarterback, he

911
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Speaker 2: just has to be available.

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Speaker 1: Well, Josh McDaniels was laughing off this entire thing, and

913
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, why is Josh McDaniels laughing

914
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: With all the success he had on all those years

915
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Speaker 1: in New England. And yes, we recognized that he had

916
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Speaker 1: a major part in winning a lot of those Super Bowls,

917
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: no question about that. But as a head coach he's

918
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: been a failure. He was a failure in Denver, and

919
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: he was a failure last year with the Raiders and

920
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: the idea that he is a doctor. Remember we were

921
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: mentioning earlier about Belichick, where you build the kind of

922
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: collateral where it's my way or the highway. Josh McDaniels

923
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: has not built that collateral in terms of his head

924
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: coaching career. You have no credibility with the my way

925
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: or the highway. So I don't know what kind of

926
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Speaker 1: deal that he made with Mark Davis and the Raider

927
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: organization where he feels safe or even if he were

928
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: to let go or get let go, he's got a

929
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: lot of guaranteed years left on that contract because we

930
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: never get the specifics of these coaching contracts, so we're

931
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: not exactly sure how they work. But I mean, the

932
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Speaker 1: idea that Garoppolo makes a full recovery from this first

933
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Speaker 1: surgery and then is out on the field for seventeen

934
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: starts in twenty twenty three seems like a far fetched

935
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Speaker 1: idea to me.

936
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Speaker 2: It might be tough for him to pull it off

937
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: because he's never really been that guy. The one thing

938
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Speaker 2: that I would question if I was a Raiders fan,

939
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo the move, that's what it is. But you

940
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 2: had Jerry Stidham and Jared Stidham came in and played

941
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: the last couple of games after you sat down, Derek

942
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 2: Carr and Jared Stidam leaves goes to Denver. You weren't

943
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: able to retain them, so they had Bobby Horrier as

944
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 2: maybe your backup qurter.

945
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: Bobby Hoyer, who, by the way, was Rich Ornberger's roommate

946
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: when they broke in together with the Patriots back in

947
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: nine that's unbelievable. But Rich hasn't play in the NFL

948
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 1: in nine years.

949
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 3: That's just unbelievable, And so you have him as a backup.

950
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: Who's right?

951
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 2: Just a placeholder if you really wanted to do this,

952
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 2: you always want to stop gap your position with someone

953
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 2: who can play and play at a high level. It's

954
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: been a long time since Brian who here has played

955
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 2: better Yet sins, Brian Horrey has played at an acceptable

956
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 2: high level that you think you can win a long

957
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: stretching games, and so to put all your eggs in

958
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: the Jimmy garoppolo basket, it's risky.

959
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 1: You had the guy. His name is Tom Brady. Last

960
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: time I checked Tom Brady, last year's set NFL records

961
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: for attempts in completion, still playing at a pretty high level,

962
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: a guy that's also somewhat familiar with Josh McDaniels. On

963
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 1: the offense that they run. He has been absolutely emphatic.

964
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: He has played his last play. He's not interested in

965
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: getting hit anymore. Here's one problem that Tom Brady, tom

966
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: Brady may not have actually accounted for. Do you understand

967
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady is responsible for one of the most

968
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: hated plays in the history of the Raiders. If I'm

969
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: a Raider fan, the idea of Tom Brady associated with

970
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: the Raiders, I'll tell you when I'll let him be

971
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: associated with the Raiders. When he comes clean and admits

972
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: that he fumbled the ball, that that whole tuck rule

973
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: thing was an absolute joke. It changed the dynamic of

974
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: the NFL because even Tom Brady admitted, had we lost

975
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: that game, Drew Bledsoe would have been back as the

976
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: starting quarterback the next year, he would have been back.

977
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: That was tom Brady's own words, why would you stay

978
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,479
Speaker 1: with me? We would have lost our first playoff game

979
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: at home. I didn't play particularly well in that game.

980
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 1: They would have brought back Bledsoe and tom Brady's current

981
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: could have gone in a completely different direction. So if

982
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: Tom Brady really wants to either be the quarterback of

983
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: the team, which he says he doesn't, or even get

984
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: an ownership stake in the Raiders, he needs to come clean.

985
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 1: And I say that which clean? That had you cheated?

986
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: He fumed.

987
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 3: He didn't make the call.

988
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: He was playing, but he's denied it. Or did you

989
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: see the Woodson thing?

990
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 3: He didn't make the call. He was trying to make

991
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: a but for just.

992
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: To acknowledge the fact that he fumbled the ball, he

993
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: got head.

994
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 3: He fumbled the ball.

995
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: He wasn't trying to throw paths. He's trying to make

996
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 1: him forward pass please, so you're on his side.

997
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: I'm just saying you're trying to. I'm just look, I

998
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: think there's a way to understand.

999
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: There are two plays that will stick in the craw

1000
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 1: of Raider fans forever. The Immaculate reception to his last breath.

1001
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: Al Davis said that was an illegal place should ever

1002
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: have happened. And the same thing with the Tuck rull.

1003
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: Two plays that cost the Raiders dearly, and Tom Brady

1004
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: is the perpetrator. Plus he's he's laughed about it, laughed

1005
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: at the Raiders. If I'm a Raider for I don't

1006
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: want Tom Brady is an owner, Why would I want?

1007
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: Why am I affording him ownership of the team? Is

1008
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: no different than he's a Patriot.

1009
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: It's no different than when pat Riley went from the

1010
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: Lakers to the Knicks and then from the Knicks to

1011
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 2: the I mean, it's no, it's really no different.

1012
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 3: It's the same thing.

1013
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes really didn't have a tuckerl play.

1014
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, but he was always edgy and fringy

1015
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 3: and kind of.

1016
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: No Raider fan liked Tom Brady or the New England

1017
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: Patriots for that matter.

1018
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but all things I mean, what's going on here?

1019
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: We got the takeover of the coach, the general manager.

1020
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: Now you're bringing in Tom Brady as an owner. What

1021
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: the hell's going on here?

1022
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: Well, I guess some would say that they're trying to

1023
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 2: create a winning environment, even though you so eloquently put

1024
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: out a nice case that maybe Josh McDaniels has not

1025
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 2: been a winner. He struggled running his own program. But

1026
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: as he's trying to recreate what he left in New England,

1027
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: he's trying, he's trying to put the piece of the

1028
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: puzzle together.

1029
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 3: Ownership is a big part of it.

1030
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: And he needs a dumb down that playbook a little bit.

1031
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: What do you think? You know how these coaches are.

1032
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: I've seen these these wizards walk in with these you know,

1033
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: gigantic play book book.

1034
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 3: I got sure. I got to show you how smart

1035
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: I am.

1036
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: And I remember we were talking about Bartie. Yeah, Sean McCabe,

1037
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: I'm with you, I'm with you. I'm doing a few

1038
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: things really well.

1039
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

1040
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 2: But so Steve, what happens is in the office and

1041
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 2: you have all this time, right, you get this time,

1042
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: You got all this tape that you're watching, You got

1043
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: all these ideas you're watching games, particularly if you didn't

1044
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, you've been looking at games and I mean,

1045
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: you just have all this stuff and you hadn't been

1046
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: around the players, and so you don't get around the

1047
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: players for real until the end of May, where you

1048
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 2: can get on the field and do something. So from

1049
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 2: that time at the end of January, from January on,

1050
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: man like about three months of just into four months

1051
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: of just in the tape room just trying to figure

1052
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 2: out how you can get an advantage. Yeah, so that's

1053
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: why the playbook is so big.

1054
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: I remember a conversation years ago I had with Mac

1055
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: Brown when you at the University of Texas and how

1056
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: he handled the Vince Young situation. He says, I had

1057
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: this incredibly talented quarterback, and it realized that we're asking

1058
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: a college kid, a nineteen year old, to try to

1059
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 1: do too much. Simple it down. Here's what we're gonna do, Vince.

1060
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna have because he could throw an accurate ball.

1061
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: So your primary receivers open, you can get that ball

1062
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: to him. If he's not open, we're not worried about checkdowns.

1063
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: You take off and run.

1064
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: Agreed.

1065
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, they win a National Championship.

1066
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, ultimately that's what you're doing. Maybe

1067
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: we'll just get to it. Josh mcdaris has to go

1068
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 2: through the process of whittling things down. It's an editorial process.

1069
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 2: It's like being a writer, like you start with a

1070
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 2: big old thing and then you get your work count down.

1071
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: So he'll get the work counting down. You won't see

1072
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: as many plays on the play sheet as we are

1073
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: accustomed to see him from him.

1074
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: All right, a lot of things going on with the

1075
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: OTA's right now as we get ready for the season.

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Speaker 1: What is all the latest news. We've got it for you.

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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Saturday. Steve Hartman, Bucky Brooks. This

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Speaker 1: is Fox Sports Saturday. We are coming a lot from

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Speaker 1: the Tirak dot Com studios OTAs and going on and

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Speaker 1: sort of a sort of an important time around the NFL, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: because once you got the mini camps, the OTA is over.

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Speaker 1: That's it. You don't see these guys again until training camp.

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Speaker 1: And that is is that now in August? Do we

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Speaker 1: even have any training camp in July?

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Speaker 3: Or is we we have stuff in July right right

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Speaker 3: at the end, right at the end.

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Speaker 1: Wait, Like you know, I think Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: I think the Hall of Fame game is the first

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Speaker 2: weekend in August, maybe August third or so.

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Speaker 3: All right, so those two teams have to come a

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Speaker 3: little early.

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Speaker 2: Those teams come in and get after it a little bit,

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Speaker 2: and so you have a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: It's different though. It's a different training camp.

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Speaker 1: Very different from the old days, believe me. All right,

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about a guy who's still very much

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Speaker 1: in the news. DeAndre Hopkins, after being cut by the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, has now said that he's going to take

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Speaker 1: his time, and that's a good thing because he's got

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Speaker 1: no list of possibilities or no endless list. It's an

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Speaker 1: endless list of possibilities of world he may end up.

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Speaker 1: So last week we were talking about Buffalo, we were

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Speaker 1: talking about the Chiefs, we were talking about the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: We talk about a number of teams, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are losing sight of one team out. He

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Speaker 1: supposedly would like to return to Houston, Haystown put it down.

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Speaker 1: But the word is the Texans aren't interested. They've turned

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Speaker 1: the page from DeAndre Hopkins. By the way, the early

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Speaker 1: reports on CJ. Stroud seemed to be very positive. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how much you can tell this early, but

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Speaker 1: they used the term he's ahead of where he thought

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Speaker 1: he would be hit a schedule. Head a schedule does

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Speaker 1: that mean?

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Speaker 2: I mean they maybe thought he would be behind in

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Speaker 2: terms of being able to grasp the playbook, being able

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Speaker 2: to take things from the classroom and play it out

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Speaker 2: on the field.

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Speaker 3: He's been able to do that. We've seen the clips

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Speaker 3: in there.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, you don't know if social only puts the good

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Speaker 2: ones out, but you've seen the ball.

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Speaker 3: He looks as advertised.

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Speaker 1: Oh, last time I saw him, he look really good

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Speaker 1: against one of the great defenses in the country, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, where else could a DeAndre Hopkins end up?

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Speaker 1: Let's see, it doesn't take a genius to figure this out.

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Speaker 1: Because he had a quarterback that he had a lot

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Speaker 1: of success with in Houston. You may remember this guy,

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, now the quarterback of the Cleveland Browns. And

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson has been asked about DeAndre Hopkins and he said, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we had success together. That's a good connection. So what

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Speaker 1: about it, Bucky? Are the Browns a real player in

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Speaker 1: the sweepstakes to get DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 3: That'd be interested.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of money tied up in your offense.

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Speaker 2: A lot of money now, rightfully so, because you paid

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Speaker 2: a quarterback a ton of money, So you want to

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Speaker 2: make sure the quarterback looks. The part of last year

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Speaker 2: when we saw him didn't play great, So maybe you

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Speaker 2: want to make sure he's comfortable.

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Speaker 3: We've seen him.

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Speaker 2: They traded for Eli Moore, they bring in, They have

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Speaker 2: Maura Cooper there. They paid big bucks a year ago

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Speaker 2: to David Njoku. The offensive line of being rout told

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Speaker 2: you got Nick Chubb back there. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: there's enough money for DeAndre Hopkins, even if you want

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Speaker 2: to bring him in. And then when it comes to

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Speaker 2: the offense that they run, they run an offense that

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Speaker 2: requires you to be a route runner. DeAndre Hopkins is

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Speaker 2: more of a what we call a playmaker, meaning it's

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Speaker 2: kind of the going back to your basketball days. It's

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Speaker 2: the difference between falling in love with a guy like

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Speaker 2: Dominic Wilkins who's a score versus a guy who's really

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Speaker 2: a shooter, like a Larry Bird or so Alex English,

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Speaker 2: something like that. So he's more of a playmaker, not

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Speaker 2: the Polish, refined guy. And so if you're Kevin Stefanski,

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Speaker 2: how do you make that fit in your offense when

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Speaker 2: everybody else are route runners. If he doesn't get the ball,

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Speaker 2: you gotta be able to drop some things to help

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Speaker 2: him get open. And that's necessarily not his forte. He's

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Speaker 2: always winning fifty to fifty balls, contested catches, acrobatic catches,

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Speaker 2: those things great as gets older and as he slows

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Speaker 2: down based on the price tag, because the price is

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Speaker 2: going to be hefty, I don't know if you can

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Speaker 2: get a return on your investment.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: So if I'm Cleveland Brown's ownership and my quarterback has

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Speaker 1: his heart set on bringing in DeAndre Hopkins, I got

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Speaker 1: to Shawn Watson. I said, you really want this guy,

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Speaker 1: don't you? I really want him? Then we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to redo your deal slightly. I mean, the money is

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Speaker 1: all guaranteed, but we're gonna have to redo the deal

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Speaker 1: a little bit to clear some space.

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Speaker 3: Oh, my money's guaranteed, so however you want to do

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Speaker 3: it right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're Deshaun Watson you really have your

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Speaker 1: heart set on de hop then yeah, okay, that doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter to me whether I get paid now or get

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Speaker 1: paid down the road. You wanted to first, some money,

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Speaker 1: you can do, I'll do that. So whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: the salary part of it is always doable. You could

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Speaker 1: always figure it out to get a guy that you

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Speaker 1: want in the fold. Let's go back to those Houston

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Speaker 1: day though, when they were one of the most dynamic

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Speaker 1: quarterback receiver combos in the league. Describe it. What did

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Speaker 1: they do well? How much was Bill O'Brien involved in

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Speaker 1: the sort of a scheme to put them on the

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Speaker 1: right page, But what did they do that put them

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Speaker 1: on the map as one of the best passing combos

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Speaker 1: in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: They had a great connection. They had an unbelievable amount

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Speaker 2: of trust with one another. Dejean Watson knew that he

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Speaker 2: could throw it anywhere in the area, and Dee Hopp

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Speaker 2: was going to make the play. He was going to

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Speaker 2: protect him because if he couldn't catch it, he's gonna

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Speaker 2: make sure that it's not intercepted. And so that trust

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Speaker 2: allowed them to really take advantage of some one on

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Speaker 2: one matchups, some things where my guy's been in New York,

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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna throw it up to them, regardless of

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Speaker 2: the coverage regardless of Hey, whether you had the right

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Speaker 2: play call or not, went and out throw to DeAndre

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Speaker 2: Hopkins and they had a lot of success doing that. Now,

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Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins is older, and it's not only that he's older.

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Speaker 2: He's been injured a ton, you know, and the injuries

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Speaker 2: may not prevent him from playing games, but then he

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Speaker 2: can't practice. And so when you think about the timing

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Speaker 2: of the offense and those things, without consistent practicing from Hopkins,

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Speaker 2: it makes it hard to really build the offense around

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Speaker 2: him because things are so different on game day than

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Speaker 2: they are in practice. This would have to be one

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Speaker 2: where you have to be convinced, okay, man, has he

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Speaker 2: worked out, he is in great shape, he's the medical

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Speaker 2: and the durability in those things you have to get

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Speaker 2: all that kind of signed off on before you even

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Speaker 2: think about pulling the trigger. And by the time you

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Speaker 2: go through all that, you want to say, is it

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Speaker 2: worth it is a return on investment? Is really going

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Speaker 2: to be a worthwhile risk for us?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 1: The other thing for DeAndre Hopkins, because last week we

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Speaker 1: were mentioning four teams. We had the Bills, we had

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, we had the Ravens, and we had the Jets,

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Speaker 1: and first of all, not only all four teams in

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Speaker 1: the AFC, but all teams that you could make an

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Speaker 1: argument now that Aaron Rodgers at the quarterback of the

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Speaker 1: Jets that would be in the mix for a possible

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Speaker 1: we'll run to get to the Super Bowl? Are the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns a d hop in the conversation? Where are

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns right now? Assuming that Deshaun Watson can

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Speaker 1: get back to form anywhere near what he used to

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Speaker 1: be with the Houston Texans, Where are the Browns right

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Speaker 1: now in terms of being a playoff contender? How far

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Speaker 1: away are they from actually being a championship contender?

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Speaker 2: They're not too far off. And the reason they're not

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Speaker 2: too far off if Deshaun Watson returns to form because

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Speaker 2: people forget it's been two years since you really explain,

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Speaker 2: here's the top five quarterback. If he returns to form,

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Speaker 2: and he's a guy because remember in the midst of

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Speaker 2: that terrible season that they had when he just got paid,

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Speaker 2: that was his best year.

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Speaker 3: Best year. He's throwing it all over the yard.

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Speaker 2: He was efficient, high level of efficiency despite the circumstances.

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Speaker 2: If he gets back to playing like that, Oh, this

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Speaker 2: team could be good because the running back they have

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Speaker 2: is Legitim Nick Chubb Amari Cooper should settle in and

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Speaker 2: he and Deshaun Watson would have a better connection, better connection,

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Speaker 2: better rapport. Defensively upgrade. Jim Schwartz comes over, it takes

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Speaker 2: over that defense to be a tax style.

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Speaker 3: He'll create some things for Miles Garrett to get going.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of optimism, a lot of reason

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Speaker 2: for optimism in Cleveland. Now they just have to put

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Speaker 2: it down. And so this for me is Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 2: It's the equivalent of when Deshaun Watson went to Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Is very much like when Lebron with the Miami first

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Speaker 2: and Lebron was wearing the black mask and all that,

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Speaker 2: that's not his natural emo. Well, now that Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 2: is navigated that first year, that first go around with

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Speaker 2: all the stuff swelling around him in terms of people

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Speaker 2: attacking this character and that stuff, well now you can

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Speaker 2: settle in. I think you see a much more relax

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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson, which means you'll see a better version.

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Speaker 1: Now. Most conversations I've seen with him are very football oriented.

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Speaker 1: Like that other stuff, it'll never go away. But in

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Speaker 1: terms of what is expected of him in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 1: completely different story. All right, let's find out what's trending

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Speaker 1: right now. Look at Brian Finley, b Fenn, it's all

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Speaker 1: ready to roll. He's got all the latest. What do

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Speaker 1: we actually have going on today?

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Speaker 8: Well, Stephen Bucky, it is human nature to want to

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Speaker 8: be validated, and the Buffalo Bills are doing that in

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Speaker 8: the form of a new contract extension for their defensive

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Speaker 8: tackle Ed Oliver. To the tune according to reports, four years,

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Speaker 8: sixty eight million dollars.

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Speaker 1: That is the extension. Hold on a second here, So

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Speaker 1: the last thing I read about Ed Oliver and we

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Speaker 1: remember when he broke on the scene at the University

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Speaker 1: Houston first team All American as a as a freshman,

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Speaker 1: the new Aaron Donald, and we haven't seen that. It's

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Speaker 1: not that he hasn't been good, but he hasn't been

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Speaker 1: generationally good like he was supposed to be. And now

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Speaker 1: they're talking about he needs to use his head a

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Speaker 1: little bit more. Right, physical talent is there, and now

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Speaker 1: I wonder how his mental game is going to be

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Speaker 1: with all that money in his pocket.

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Speaker 3: It's too late.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, with that money, it's only going to up his

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Speaker 8: mental game as far as what he.

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Speaker 4: Thinks of himself.

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Speaker 8: But we do know that it's one year left on

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01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 8: the deal, so essentially under contract now he will be

1292
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 8: in Buffalo for the next five seasons. The Washington Post

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01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 8: is reporting that Nationals right hander Stephen Strasburg is facing

1294
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 8: severe nerve damage. He's been dealing with injury issues for

1295
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 8: quite some time now, and there is a strong chance

1296
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 8: now that he may never pitch in the Bigs again,

1297
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 8: that we might have seen the last of Steven Straws.

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Speaker 1: So I did the math again. So with three more

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Speaker 1: guaranteed years of thirty five million a year, he will

1300
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: have collected over seven years two hundred and forty five

1301
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,439
Speaker 1: million dollars, and assuming never pitches a game, he would

1302
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: have won one game in those seven years.

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Speaker 8: Do you remember the controversy that one year the Nationals

1304
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 8: were making a playoff run and there was a pitch

1305
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 8: count or number year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they lost in the first round of the

1307
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: playoffs because they sat him because he had run out

1308
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: of innings. Yes, I was like, what happened here?

1309
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah? I could not even believe that that was a thing.

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Speaker 1: He held him out of a playoff series because they

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01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: said he'd already used up his innings during the regular season.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he did end up getting a World Series. Oh,

1313
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 8: he was a World Series MVP. Yes, so he ended

1314
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Speaker 8: up getting one.

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01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: But so two hundred and forty five million dollars from

1316
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 1: one win, the Rangers could be World Series contenders one day.

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Speaker 8: They As we look at games that are going on

1318
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 8: right now, we're leading the Mariner six to three in

1319
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 8: the bottom of the fourth. The Cardinals and Pirates they

1320
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 8: just got out of a rain delay and so they

1321
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 8: are resuming things in the top of the third with

1322
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 8: Saint Louis enjoying a one to nothing lead. The Astros

1323
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 8: have jumped ahead of the Angels in Houston two to

1324
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 8: one bottom of the fourth there, while we are into

1325
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 8: the bottom of the fourth in Cincinnati where the Reds

1326
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 8: are getting dismantled by the Brewers ten to three. Right now,

1327
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Speaker 8: we do a few finals to get to, and of course,

1328
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Speaker 8: coming up at seven to fifteen Eastern tom on Fox

1329
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 8: National Television, the Dodgers will be hosting the Yankees for

1330
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 8: that rare matchup between these two at Dodger Stadium. But

1331
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 8: the Red Sox finish off the Rays eight to five,

1332
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 8: five runs for Boston in the sixth inning, make that

1333
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 8: six runs of the sixth inning, and the White Sox

1334
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 8: winning two to one over the Tigers in a battle

1335
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 8: of two teams under five hundred in a game that

1336
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 8: ended in the tenth. We do know that one American

1337
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 8: on the men's side at Roland Garris the French Open

1338
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 8: is still going on right now in his third set

1339
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 8: battle here with Alexander Zverev.

1340
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 4: That will be Francis tiafo the twelve Sea.

1341
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 8: They are into the fourth set with Tiaffo up two sets.

1342
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 8: Excuse me, he's down two sets to one right now

1343
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 8: and it is two all in the fourth, So something

1344
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 8: to keep on your minds there. And then lastly, Bucky

1345
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 8: and Steve third round of the PGA Tours Memorial Tournament

1346
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 8: and David Lipski still clenching onto that lead. He is

1347
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 8: seven under four the day, one under for the tournament

1348
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 8: on eighteen right now, so just about done for his day,

1349
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 8: one shot lead over Rory McElroy, who made a late

1350
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 8: charge on the back nine, is one shot off the pace.

1351
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 8: But it was a day that started with Hadeki Matsuyama

1352
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 8: in the lead. He is on eighteen five shots off

1353
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 8: the lead at one point and now three shots at

1354
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 8: four under. But a day and again this could be

1355
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 8: as Steve Hartman Special. There were back to back to

1356
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 8: back bogies, which for U, Steve is sort of like

1357
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 8: a double eagle.

1358
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 1: For you, it depends on the hole. Yeah, No, Usually

1359
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: what happens based on the difficulty of a hole. I mean,

1360
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: if I really butcher a hole that I feel like

1361
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 1: I should have done well on, I'll take my medicine.

1362
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 1: But if I post the score that in my mind

1363
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: is better than what I should have scored on a hole,

1364
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: then I yeah, I give myself all the credit in

1365
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: the world.

1366
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 8: There was a Fox Sports radio employee, and I don't

1367
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 8: want to name names, but I played golf with him

1368
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 8: once and there was a par three seventy yards. He

1369
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 8: put three t balls in the water, finished with an

1370
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 8: eleven and told me on the scorecard to write him

1371
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 8: down with a six.

1372
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well to see that. I have a quick

1373
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: story for you. This is I was covering a golf

1374
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: tournament at the Monarch Bay Resort, beautiful private club out there.

1375
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: This is years ago, and we were scheduled to do

1376
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: an interview with Fred Couples. It was a charity tournament

1377
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: and former President Bill Clinton was there. I even got

1378
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 1: a picture. But you know, the President, he was very nice,

1379
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: by the way, but he was going to play with

1380
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: Fred Couples, and because the President was late getting there,

1381
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: we had to sort of scratch our interview with Couples.

1382
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: We understood. I mean, Fred is such a super nice guy.

1383
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: So we're sitting on this deck overlooking the course, and

1384
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,959
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, coming up the steps is Fred Couples.

1385
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,480
Speaker 1: We're like, aren't you playing with the President? And he goes, yeah,

1386
01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 1: but he started playing his own game right now. He's

1387
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 1: just sort of kicking things around and replacing the ball

1388
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: and putting down ridiculous scores. So if he's gonna have

1389
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: that mentality, then yeah, I'm gonna hang out with you

1390
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: guys as long as you want. I don't think he

1391
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: misses me at all. So but if a president could

1392
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 1: do it, why not.

1393
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,759
Speaker 7: Yes, that person you're playing with, I think they should

1394
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 7: have picked up your bar tab.

1395
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. That's his last name rhymes with

1396
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: snding guard.

1397
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 7: Oh, I'm sorry. I was trying to tell a joke.

1398
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 7: When I said what I said, I thought it was

1399
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 7: somebody else. Never mind, all right, No one's understand what

1400
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 7: we're talking about. No, they have no clue. I have

1401
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 7: news for you said. That's most of what he said.

1402
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 7: I know, but that's okay. We love it and see

1403
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 7: if it works.

1404
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 1: All right, Beef, we'll talk to you about a little

1405
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 1: bit later on one of the big stories out of

1406
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 1: the NBA. It's been the coaching carousel here, buggy, so

1407
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: let's update you again. So the Pistons Dwayne Casey out

1408
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:07,799
Speaker 1: Monty Williams, who was fired by Phoenix.

1409
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 3: This mighty big Bucks Williams.

1410
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 1: I mean he got the biggest contract I believe ever,

1411
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: is that right for Kickbucks?

1412
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 3: Big Bucks?

1413
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: So Phoenix didn't like him, Detroit did. The Milwaukee Bucks

1414
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: replaced Mike Budenholzer, who led him to a championship a

1415
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,640
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, with Adrian Griffin. So give me

1416
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: a guy at a first time opportunity. I'm still looking

1417
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: at the Sixers swap out and I'm trying to figure

1418
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: this one out. You get rid of Doc Rivers, and

1419
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: I certainly have no problem with that. Nick Nurse. Okay,

1420
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 1: So Nick Nurse's first year with Toronto, they won the

1421
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: championship when he had a guy named Kawhi Leonard. Things

1422
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: went predictably south with Nick Nurse after that. Meanwhile, in Phoenix,

1423
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 1: where they fired Monty Williams, who led him to the

1424
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 1: NBA Finals two years ago and then a year ago

1425
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: he was the NBA Coach of the Year, they replaced

1426
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 1: him with Frank Vogel, the former Pacers and Lakers coach,

1427
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 1: Which means there's only one vacancy left and that's Toronto

1428
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: firing Nick Nurse and they still need a coach. That

1429
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 1: means that there are still doc Rivers and booten holes

1430
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 1: are out there if you want to continue to recycle coaches.

1431
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 2: It's not only the recycling that I'm I'm worried about,

1432
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 2: Like this is one thing, but for some of these coaches,

1433
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 2: and I guess like once you get a championship, like

1434
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 2: you have to be considered an upper echelon coach. But

1435
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 2: to me, I don't believe Nick Nurse is an upgrade

1436
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: over Doc Rivers.

1437
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: I would agree with you, And let me ask you,

1438
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: this is Frank Vogel an upgrade? O OLEMANI Williams.

1439
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 2: Another one like, man, how many jobs is Frank Vogel had? Well,

1440
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 2: you have the Pacers job Pacers, Magic Lakers. Yeah, we

1441
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 2: think that highly about Frank Voge that he needs to

1442
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 2: have four head coaching tries.

1443
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 3: I mean, that's why he won a championship. Like, what

1444
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 3: can you say?

1445
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 2: But in a bubble, I mean the bubble counts. I

1446
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 2: still give them credit. They want a championship, but still well.

1447
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,639
Speaker 1: You don't want to get Vogel credit. But two years

1448
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 1: after he was thirty three and forty nine. That's the

1449
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 1: last time we saw Frank Vogel with the Lakers. He

1450
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: was thirty three and four and it wasn't all his fault.

1451
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,879
Speaker 2: And I understand because we can talk about Bill Belichick

1452
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 2: not being able to work out in Cleveland, but it

1453
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 2: works out in New England and all those things. Yet

1454
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 2: got it, But I don't know if any let's just

1455
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 2: say it from a consumer, if I was a season

1456
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 2: ticket holder from any of those teams, I don't know

1457
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 2: if the guys who've been hired make me like, Okay,

1458
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: let's reiff and let's go do this.

1459
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 1: All right. So when we say when Frank Vogel's last

1460
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: year with the Lakers, they were thirty three and forty nine,

1461
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: and the argument was, well, it wasn't all his fault. Okay,

1462
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: if you're going to make that argument it wasn't all

1463
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: his fault, then how much credit should he get for

1464
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: them when he had championship? In other words, if his

1465
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 1: presence wasn't the reason why they had a bad year,

1466
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: then it's it's got to be equal playing ground, and

1467
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 1: then his presence it really wasn't a big part of

1468
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 1: them winning. If it really just comes down to having

1469
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 1: healthy players on the court plane at a high level,

1470
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: then what exactly is the coach there for is? I mean,

1471
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: we've made the argument with Major League Baseball because of

1472
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 1: all the saber metrics and everything else and lineups are

1473
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:23,440
Speaker 1: made for the managers that they have been rendered basically obsolete.

1474
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 1: Are we at that point with NBA coaches? I mean,

1475
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: even a guy like Eric Spolster with all of his success,

1476
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: really is a product of Pat Riley. They have a

1477
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: system in place, similar to San Antonio has a system

1478
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:40,919
Speaker 1: in place with Pop and you could say the Warriors

1479
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: as well have a system in place now with Steve Kerr.

1480
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 1: The rest of the teams are just scrambling and they're

1481
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 1: just rotating these coaches in and out. I expecting different results.

1482
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 1: And if even if Let's say the Phoenix Suns were

1483
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: to have a breakout season and Duran can somehow stay

1484
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: healthy and you know Chris Paul can squeeze out a

1485
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: few more games out of his almost forty year old

1486
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 1: body and win a championship. How much is that Frank

1487
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: Vogel to get credit for that?

1488
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 2: Well, So my thing would be, if we're talking about coaches,

1489
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 2: coach has to come in with an experts. He's have

1490
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 2: to know he's known for something. He's coming in this

1491
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 2: is what we need. He's gonna bring this element to

1492
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 2: help us get over the top. And so for Frank Vogel,

1493
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 2: who is known for defense, I don't see a team

1494
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 2: that is a defensive oriented team or a team that

1495
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 2: is ready to be a defensive team. Are they going

1496
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 2: to get a bunch of young players that can play

1497
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:38,840
Speaker 2: defense around.

1498
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: You trained your guys that play defense to get durant

1499
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:43,799
Speaker 1: so defensive players.

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01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 2: So I don't understand that. And then look, we can

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01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 2: talk about Minnie Williams and he did a good job

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01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: getting the Phoenix Uns up and going. He may be

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01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 2: what we call a program starter, maybe not a finisher.

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01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 2: Maybe can get him up to a certain level, can

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01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 2: get a but I mean Detroit is so I mean,

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01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 2: I mean they are a long ways away. I think

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01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 2: you have Nick Nurse.

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01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 1: Nick Nurse, look at it. If I were to choose

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01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: between Budenholzer and Nick Nurse, I would take Budenholzer all

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01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 1: day long. First of all, the last time I checked

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01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 1: Budenholzer this season led his team to the best record

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01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: in the NBA. Now, yeah, they went belly up in

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01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: this improbable run by the Miami Heat. And by the way,

1514
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: the Heat seemed to have their number anyway for some reason.

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01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,799
Speaker 1: It can be a lot about matchups. But Nick Nurse,

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01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: Nick Nurse, first year in Toronto had Kawhi Leonard thrown

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01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 1: in his lap. And how much was that Kawhi Leonard

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01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:47,440
Speaker 1: winning a championship plus the fact that Golden State completely

1519
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 1: fell apart in the finals physically, and how much was

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01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 1: that Nick Nurse.

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01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 3: I mean, like.

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01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 2: So some would say because I think Dwayne Casey did

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01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 2: he get fired after winning Coach of the Year.

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01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did. In fact that that was back in

1525
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 1: the day when they had an awards show after the season.

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01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:11,719
Speaker 1: He got actually given the award when he had already

1527
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: been fired and then hired by the Pistons.

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01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 2: So my thing with Nick Nurse and the Raptors, Dwayne

1529
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 2: Casey to me, did a lot of the groundwork, like

1530
01:16:25,479 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 2: he can't be solely responsible for it, but Nick Nurse

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01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 2: got it over there. So it's just hard for me

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01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 2: in some of these situations, say that you get in

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01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 2: the level of coaching espertise that is going to put

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01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 2: the team over the top.

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01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 4: All right.

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01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 1: On the other side, we have two coaches still very

1537
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: much alive. The last names are Spolstra em alone. What

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01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: changes will we see in Game two from both sides?

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01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,600
Speaker 1: As we continue on with our coverage of the NBA Finals,

1540
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: this is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvin, Bucky Brooks, Fox

1541
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 1: Sports Saturday, comeing Alive from the tairaq dot com studios.

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01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: All Right, I want to get on a different note

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01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: here for a second. We'll get back to our NBA

1544
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: Finals coverage. But the commissioner of the NBA, Adam Silver,

1545
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 1: says that it will be after the NBA Finals before

1546
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: the league decides on what's next for Ja Morant conduct

1547
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: detrimental to the league. That was the previous eight game

1548
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:27,959
Speaker 1: suspension for brandishing the gun. By the way, his friend

1549
01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: didn't do him many favors by exposing the fact that

1550
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: he was once again brandishing a gun. Wasn't his own

1551
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 1: camera at work, it was his friends.

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01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 2: Thanks, but maybe maybe the friend didn't know that he

1553
01:17:41,479 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 2: was gonna whip out his gun.

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01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: Well exactly what I do you think? I mean, you know,

1555
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 1: so what do you do now? So he would be

1556
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: a second time offender like this? See, this is the

1557
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 1: one thing that's sort of a graay area when it

1558
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: comes to the relationship between the league and the players

1559
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: union and how to arrive at certain punishments. He hasn't

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01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: been arrested for anything. It's under that banner of conduct

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01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: detrimental to the team, to the league. How do you

1562
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 1: think Adam Silver is gonna handle this second offense with

1563
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:17,599
Speaker 1: Jah Morant?

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01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 3: Uh? Fifty games?

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01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: Fifty games.

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01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna come down hard and then he'll

1567
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 2: let the union and arbitration bring the number down. But

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01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 2: Adam Silver is going to send a message so that

1569
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 2: we behind the mic can't say, oh, he went soft

1570
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:38,680
Speaker 2: on him, because he went soft on him before he

1571
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 2: went with eight games and everyone was like, oh, it's

1572
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 2: like a lord, not even a slap on the wrist.

1573
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing and so then in less than

1574
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 2: two months, you're right back at it having to address

1575
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,880
Speaker 2: a similar issue all over again. Oh no, he's gonna

1576
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 2: hammer him, He's gonna throw it at him.

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01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: What do you do with Jah Morant moving forward? If

1578
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: you're the Memphis Grizzlies, I mean, he is the franchise.

1579
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: He obviously has superstar potential, but he can't seem to

1580
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 1: get his act together, and a lot of it may

1581
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 1: be his circle of friends that continue to perpetuate a

1582
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 1: form of behavior that is not conducive. If you're being

1583
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 1: paid the kind of money he's being paid to be

1584
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: playing in the NBA, you have a right to live

1585
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 1: your life as you please. But that doesn't mean that

1586
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 1: the NBA has the right to employ you.

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01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 3: No, And so it's a tricky thing, right.

1588
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,839
Speaker 2: Obviously it's tricky because we you know, it's a hot

1589
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 2: button topic when you think about gun safety and gun

1590
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 2: controlled and all those other things. People talk about Second

1591
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 2: Amendment right to carry all of that. But here's the thing.

1592
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 2: When it comes to the NBA and their players, they

1593
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,599
Speaker 2: have a right and they have an obligation adam silver

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01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 2: to protect the brand. And so if one of the

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01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 2: faces of your league is honishing the brand in some way,

1596
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 2: shape or form. You have to correct the behavior. And

1597
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 2: so whether we like it or not, and whether we

1598
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,679
Speaker 2: say it's not fair, those things I can see where

1599
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: Adam Silver would say, here's what I'm going to do,

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01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 2: not only just for job morant, but I'm gonna scourage

1601
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 2: the rest of the players in the league from getting

1602
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 2: involved in this stuff so that it begins to turnish

1603
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 2: the brand. Because I think you understand this the long

1604
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,560
Speaker 2: sorted history of the perception of the National Basketball Association

1605
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 2: and how David Stern had to really work hard to

1606
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 2: overcome the way that people on the outside viewed the NBA.

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01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:37,479
Speaker 3: And so now that you.

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01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 2: Finally got it out of that, the last thing you're

1609
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 2: trying to do is have it go back to what

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01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 2: people perceive it to be. And so that's why Adam

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01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,520
Speaker 2: Silver has to hammer him.

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Speaker 1: Back in the day, David Stern actually was a fairly

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01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 1: frequent guest on our radio show back when I was

1614
01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: working with Michael Thompson, and when he came down with

1615
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 1: the ruling about what you wear, it was the Allen

1616
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 1: Ivers in the desk code. I actually asked him, and

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01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 1: Stern was the kind of guy you could say something

1618
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 1: like this too. I said, Commissioner, I have a question

1619
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: for you. Are you drunk with power? That's exactly what

1620
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: I said on the air, and his retort, he had

1621
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 1: an immediate retort. He said, if you mean am I

1622
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 1: looking out for the best of the league. Yeah, that's

1623
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: my job. So it'd be very interesting to see because,

1624
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 1: let's face it, Adam Silver is a disciple of David

1625
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: Stern and he can make some hard decisions. How that

1626
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 1: plays for Jean Morant. We're gonna find out much more

1627
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 1: on the NBA Finals and what's next for the Boston Celtics.

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1650
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Speaker 1: Insider is going to be joining us, coming up here

1651
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 1: in about eighteen minutes. We're obviously getting ready for Game

1652
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 1: two of the NBA Finals tomorrow between the Nuggets and

1653
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: the Heat, and the Heat are going to have to

1654
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: do a lot of things differently to make this a

1655
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 1: competitive NBA Final series. Now, the fact that the Heat

1656
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 1: are there really had as much to do with the

1657
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 1: Celtics failure in the Eastern Conference Finals again, and this

1658
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: is raising a question about the future of the Boston Celtics,

1659
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 1: and they are relevant, like the Lakers, two franchises that

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01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 1: have combined for thirty four NBA titles. That's more than

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01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: half of the league's history, or somewhere along those lines,

1662
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 1: the two dominant franchises in league history. And in consecutive

1663
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: years twenty sixteen and twenty seventeen, the Celtics had the

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01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: third overall pick in the draft, and in consecutive drafts

1665
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,560
Speaker 1: they took Jalen Brown and they took Jason Tatum. To

1666
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: all NBA players, I'm a big Jalen Brown fan. He's

1667
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 1: I remember when he was a col has won and

1668
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 1: done year. He talked in terms of having learned six

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01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: languages by the time he's twenty five. He's very impressed individual,

1670
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: much less a basketball player. That being said, there's a

1671
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: lot of buzz right now for a team and they're

1672
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 1: six years together, have been in the Eastern Conference Finals

1673
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: five times, but have only made it two of the

1674
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: finals once that was a year ago, and obviously they

1675
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 1: came up short against the Warriors. Jalen Brown's twenty six,

1676
01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum's twenty five, these are still very young players

1677
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 1: with a very young coach, by the way, So the

1678
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: question is this, have you seen enough to convince you

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01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 1: that this dynamic duo is gone as far as they

1680
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 1: can go as a pair. Or is it just a

1681
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 1: matter of circumstance or maybe just a matter of time

1682
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:48,720
Speaker 1: before their time comes in which they reign supreme at

1683
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: the top of the NBA. Because if you are going

1684
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: to trade one, Jylen Brown would be the guy, with

1685
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 1: all due respect, because Jason Tatum is the man in

1686
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: the moment for the Bostons Celtics and Jalen Brown coming

1687
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 1: off in all NBA season, obviously he's going to get

1688
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 1: a lot in return. There's a lot of teams that

1689
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: would love to have Jalen Brown on their roster. So

1690
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 1: what do you do if you're the Boston Celtics.

1691
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 2: State, of course you stayed, of course, because you've been

1692
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 2: I think you said five Eastern Conference Championship games finals.

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01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, finals, you've been the one final. Uh.

1694
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 2: Both of these guys are under twenty six years of age.

1695
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:30,799
Speaker 2: When you have a young crew like that, you continue

1696
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:34,640
Speaker 2: to build upon it. And so instead of saying that

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01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 2: it has to be either or, I would say, well,

1698
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,480
Speaker 2: what do we need to put around them to compliment

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01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 2: them in terms of how they play? To me when

1700
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 2: you look at them, these guys are ball dominant guys,

1701
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 2: a pat.

1702
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 3: Pad dribble dribble, dribble, drib dribble drill.

1703
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:50,400
Speaker 2: But it's like a game one on one. But what

1704
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 2: a point guard, a dominant point guard who's a pass

1705
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 2: first point guard. Would he make the game easier for

1706
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum so they don't have to

1707
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:01,519
Speaker 2: work is hard to get buckets.

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01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 3: This team is solid.

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01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 2: And I'll say this, I'm not in love with Joe

1710
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 2: Mozzoula in terms of like how he handles the media

1711
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 2: because I think he makes life harder on himself when

1712
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 2: he's so acrimonious. But man, he was put in a

1713
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 2: tough spot right before training. Gave me his takeover. Team

1714
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 2: doesn't have his own coaches. He was a second rogue guy.

1715
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 2: Now he's in charge and he's trying to figure it out.

1716
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 2: And for all of the people who I mean kind

1717
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 2: of way in after the fact, it's a lot easier

1718
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 2: to coach from the comfort of your living room than

1719
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 2: when you're having to do it and you're trying to

1720
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 2: learn how to be a head coach. I would give

1721
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:40,560
Speaker 2: them time. I would give this team some time and

1722
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 2: see if you can add a few pieces around the two.

1723
01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't break them up.

1724
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: Well, I like what you said about a point guard

1725
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,320
Speaker 1: when you look back at their last championship team in

1726
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,839
Speaker 1: eight three first ballot Hall of Famers Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, KAMC. Garnett.

1727
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of people that believe the

1728
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: most valuable player on the team was for Geen Rondo

1729
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 1: couldn't make a free throw, but he did so many things.

1730
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 1: And even Kendrick Perkins, who understood his role as a

1731
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: big man in the middle. So those were the two

1732
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 1: role players, but they played a huge role on a

1733
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 1: team that featured these superstar players. And I agree with you. Now,

1734
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 1: obviously you got Marcus Smart. You brought in Brogden, who

1735
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: immediately delivered a six Man of the Year award. He

1736
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 1: had to adjust to the idea that he was coming

1737
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: off the bench, and he was able to do that.

1738
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 1: The Missoula question, I think it's fair to give him

1739
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 1: another opportunity, I don't I don't know. I mean, my

1740
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: biggest problem with the Boston Celtics, and we saw a

1741
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 1: play out in these Eastern Conference finals. You live by

1742
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 1: the three, you die by the three. Yeah, and if

1743
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: you look at the two teams that are in the

1744
01:27:56,160 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: NBA Finals, Okay, they can shoot, but Jimmy Butler is

1745
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: not a three point shooter. And obviously the Nuggets operate

1746
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 1: us are up around a center, yea. And that, to

1747
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: me is the thing that is holding the Celtics back

1748
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: because and we see Jason Tatum is a prime example

1749
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,960
Speaker 1: of this. He'll have those games where he goes off

1750
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 1: and you're like, now, that is a star, that is

1751
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 1: an NBA All Star, that is a guy deserving of

1752
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: what he's been the last couple of years, first Team

1753
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 1: All NBA. And then there are other games where he

1754
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 1: can't make anything and he just disappears he does. That's

1755
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,960
Speaker 1: the problem. And you know, remember I was I was

1756
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 1: making the point that Jalen Brown should remember when Tatum

1757
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,880
Speaker 1: was struggling. I'm looking at Brown's numbers and I'm like,

1758
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: why isn't he getting to the ball more? And then

1759
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Jaylen Brown couldn't make a shot.

1760
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 2: So my issue, and this is where coaching should come in.

1761
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 2: The coach's job is to make the game easier for

1762
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,560
Speaker 2: the players. So you have this debate where you have

1763
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 2: star players say no, no, you don't need a coach

1764
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:08,799
Speaker 2: and those things. But I would tell you the coach's

1765
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 2: job is to make the game easy. So when you're

1766
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 2: looking at Jason taylorm and Jaylen Brown struggle to get

1767
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 2: shots from their spots, so they're having to work so

1768
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 2: hard to get their spots their shots, the coach's job

1769
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 2: is to come up and exit on them like, hey,

1770
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:22,439
Speaker 2: here's what we can do to make the game easy,

1771
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 2: or let's put our system in that make it easy

1772
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 2: so you don't have to work as hard to get

1773
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,679
Speaker 2: quality looks. The other thing I will say with the Celtics,

1774
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 2: I don't mind them pulling threes because we saw when

1775
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 2: they look they hit you with the avalanche of threes.

1776
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 3: They gonna get you about the gym.

1777
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 2: But the coach has to be able to tell them, hey, man,

1778
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,320
Speaker 2: we probably need to get some more paint touches, probably

1779
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 2: need to take it to the rat game.

1780
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 3: Seven is hard. Everyone's a little tight. We started out

1781
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 3: zero for twelve.

1782
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 2: Let's hey, let's take the next five possessions and make

1783
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 2: sure we get shots that are in the paint, get

1784
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 2: at least a foot in the paint before we kick it.

1785
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 3: Back out in those things.

1786
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 2: And so it's a combination of playing style, this combination

1787
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:06,200
Speaker 2: of Missoula's leadership, and then do you have Mit Smeth

1788
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 2: like the right pieces. I like Marcus Smart for what

1789
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 2: he does for the Celtics, but I don't know if

1790
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 2: he can run the offense as their starting point guard.

1791
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 2: Meaning I'm not saying he has to be John Stockman,

1792
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 2: but can he man make the game easy, what the

1793
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 2: ball is going. So there are a few different things.

1794
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 2: I wouldn't just put it on Jay Brown, but I

1795
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:32,799
Speaker 2: will say this Game seven, when Jason Tatum twists his ankle,

1796
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 2: I did say, Okay, here we go. If you're the dude,

1797
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 2: here you go. This is your moment where everyone wants.

1798
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 2: Everybody's not necessarily built to be the lead horse.

1799
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 1: Well, exactly the point. And by the way, I get

1800
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 1: a lot of grief from Celtic fans on social media

1801
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: because they know of my allegiance to the Lakers growing

1802
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 1: up in Los Angeles. And when they were down three

1803
01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:59,559
Speaker 1: to zero and you know, all of a sudden forced

1804
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 1: the games and I maintained, yeah, they haven't gotten to

1805
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 1: the finish line yet, using the Jason Tatum injury as

1806
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:11,639
Speaker 1: an excuse in a game that frankly got blown out

1807
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 1: of that game on your home court. That's not going

1808
01:31:16,040 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: to make the difference. But the fact that Jylen Brown

1809
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,880
Speaker 1: was enabled to take the baton and take over that game,

1810
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 1: as you just said, maybe he isn't that kind of player.

1811
01:31:27,080 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 1: So we'll see where the Celtics go next. Pretty much

1812
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: they'll have a set roster for next year, obviously looking

1813
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 1: for very different results.

1814
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:34,439
Speaker 4: All right.

1815
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 1: On the other side, we're going to get back to

1816
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 1: the National Football League. A guy that's been all over

1817
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: the OTA's camps everywhere. We're going to find out his

1818
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:45,759
Speaker 1: latest venture. Adam Kaplan our Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider

1819
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,759
Speaker 1: will join us coming up next. I love the choice

1820
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:53,680
Speaker 1: of songs here. Of course, Shocking Blue did the original

1821
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:57,960
Speaker 1: version of Venus, but you go Banana Rama, which is

1822
01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 1: more here. Yes, m m mmmmmmm, I love Banana Rama

1823
01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 1: back in the day. Oh by the way, if you

1824
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:09,759
Speaker 1: are wondering, yes, this is Fox Sports Saturday Steve Harbin

1825
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 1: and Bucky Brooks and we are live from the tire

1826
01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 1: Rack dot Com studios. I'm not quite sure if he

1827
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 1: is a Banana Rama fan. We are a fan of his,

1828
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 1: though he is our Fox Sports Radio NFL Insider, Serious

1829
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 1: X NFL insidebers. He does it all when it comes

1830
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 1: to the shield, mister Adam Kaplan, we missed you, Adam.

1831
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 1: How are you today?

1832
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 4: Guys gould to talk to you. Yeah, I remember that song.

1833
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:33,639
Speaker 4: I actually remember the video Believer.

1834
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: Oh well, we all remember the video videos. Yeah, the

1835
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 1: video definitely made it a far more effective song that

1836
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 1: actually was. All right, Adam, we have so much to

1837
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 1: catch up with you on, but I want to start

1838
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 1: with the Raiders. I was asking Bucky about this a

1839
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 1: little bit earlier, because you know, all of a sudden,

1840
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 1: the news comes out about the foot surgery for Jimmy

1841
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:55,880
Speaker 1: Garoppolo and they saidenhow took his signing bonus and morphed

1842
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 1: it into his salary. And some people are looking at

1843
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:02,120
Speaker 1: as a possibility of just being flat out released so

1844
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,680
Speaker 1: they're not on the hook for anything, which, by the way,

1845
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 1: would leave him without a quarterback unless Tom Brady changes

1846
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 1: his mind sides the return. So where do we stand

1847
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 1: right now with the Silver and Black?

1848
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 4: No, they what happened is and this happens when you

1849
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 4: bring a player in it's coming off an injury. I mean,

1850
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:22,000
Speaker 4: all players have to take a physical, and they they

1851
01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 4: required more work. They wanted to see exactly what's going

1852
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 4: with that foot from last season, which the Niners, by

1853
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 4: the way, didn't think need surgery, but the Raiders were

1854
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 4: not comfortable with it. I remember doing some reporting many

1855
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 4: years ago. Remember Roger Staffold, the then Rams guard, while

1856
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 4: the Raiders were doing a big free agent deal with him,

1857
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 4: and the Raiders had a problem with his shoulder and

1858
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 4: they nixed the deal at the last second. Effect his

1859
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 4: agents were there. It's crazy, and they walked away. They

1860
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 4: were not comfortable with the situation and he went back

1861
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 4: to the Rams. Really crazy story in here. They made

1862
01:33:56,760 --> 01:34:00,879
Speaker 4: this commitment to Garoppolo for three seasons terms of a contract.

1863
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 4: It's got a one year structure, and they redid the deal.

1864
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 4: And the bottom line is they have relief if for

1865
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 4: some reason, let's put it this way, they fully expect,

1866
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 4: as I understand, he'll be ready by late your life,

1867
01:34:14,240 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 4: not before that, to practice, but for some reason he

1868
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 4: has to setback. They've got relief here and that's why

1869
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:20,679
Speaker 4: they did.

1870
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 3: It makes sense.

1871
01:34:22,720 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 2: Another thing that I guess will eventually make sense as

1872
01:34:25,840 --> 01:34:29,839
Speaker 2: a team signing DeAndre Hopkins, who are the real suitors

1873
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:31,479
Speaker 2: when it comes to the former All Pro.

1874
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, he wants to be with a good team. And

1875
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 4: here's the thing, we have to understand who this player is.

1876
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 4: He's not Odell Beckham junior. Dale Beckham Junior. We know

1877
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:42,880
Speaker 4: about the injuries, but talking to people who are at

1878
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 4: the workout that he had before he signed his deal

1879
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:47,680
Speaker 4: with the Ravens, it's pretty good workout. He you know,

1880
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:50,720
Speaker 4: he can get downfield. That's not Hopkins. Hopkins is a

1881
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 4: possession receiver, so he's a certain type of guy in

1882
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 4: terms of catching the football and separation all that, and

1883
01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 4: now we've had the draft, there's just not the mark

1884
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 4: that he's looking for. He remember now he was set

1885
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 4: for a salary not guaranteed, over nineteen million. If he

1886
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 4: gets even half that, he would be lucky. At this point,

1887
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 4: he doesn't have the leverage that Beckham Junior had before

1888
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 4: the draft. So it's just I'm a little surprised. Now.

1889
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 4: I know he changed agency. Change agency, didn't have one.

1890
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 4: He had one years ago with the Texans. Then he

1891
01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:24,679
Speaker 4: did the Cardinals deal on his own with an advisor.

1892
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 4: Did a pretty good job, by the way, and then

1893
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 4: he got an agent. But that shouldn't stop him. But

1894
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 4: the league is really telling him, look, you don't run

1895
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 4: as well as he used to. You remember, he's been

1896
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 4: injured a little bit the last two seasons. He had

1897
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:39,640
Speaker 4: the suspension. He's thirty one years old next week, and

1898
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 4: teams are clearly saying, you've got maybe two years left

1899
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 4: in him. They're not going to overpay for him. I mean,

1900
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 4: if he gets ten million a year, I'd be surprised. Now, again,

1901
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 4: he's a posession of receiver. He's a number two or

1902
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,120
Speaker 4: number three receiver. He's really not a number one at

1903
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 4: this point.

1904
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:54,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and a lot of people were just a week ago,

1905
01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,879
Speaker 1: we were talking about teams like the Bills, the Chiefs,

1906
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,639
Speaker 1: the Jets, the Ravens, you know, teams that i've are

1907
01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 1: Super Bowl contenders, and that at this point of his career,

1908
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, he just wants to latch onto a team

1909
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 1: like that. And then all of a sudden this week

1910
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 1: entered Deshaun Watson, his teammate in Houston, and they obviously

1911
01:36:13,080 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 1: had a magic He's not the same receiver we were

1912
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 1: speculating Bucky and I about, you know, if Deshaun Watson

1913
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 1: has his heart set on getting d Hop and I'm

1914
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 1: the Browns, Well fine, we have a fully guaranteed contract.

1915
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 1: We'll have to restructure some of that, defer some of

1916
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 1: that money to open up some room. But would DeAndre

1917
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:38,280
Speaker 1: Hopkins joining the Cleveland Browns raise their bar in terms

1918
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 1: of a true contender in twenty twenty three?

1919
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 4: Well, what help? Their issues aren't so much offense they've got.

1920
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 4: They added Elijah Moore from the Jats, so they really

1921
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 4: are high on. They added Marquis Goodwin, who's a de threat,

1922
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 4: Cedric Tillman in this draft. They feel pretty good from

1923
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 4: talking to people there about their receiver corps, David and Joke,

1924
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:58,559
Speaker 4: who's been a leader at tight end. They don't really

1925
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 4: need add Hopkins. I mean, he's again it's got the

1926
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 4: chemistry as you're talking about with Watson, no doubt about it.

1927
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,719
Speaker 4: They were terrific together. But they're also looking to develop

1928
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 4: their younger receivers like Donovan Peoples, Jones was on the

1929
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 4: final years deal, and I just mentioned Tilman and David

1930
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 4: Bell by the way, who was a third round pick

1931
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:15,720
Speaker 4: last year. So it just doesn't make a lot of

1932
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 4: sense to me. The one thing though, I will tell you,

1933
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:19,599
Speaker 4: this offense is going to change a little bit. They're

1934
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:21,000
Speaker 4: going to throw the ball more than they usually do

1935
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 4: with Kevin Stephanski being the head coach, because you don't

1936
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 4: pay Watson what they're paying to keep running the football

1937
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:29,599
Speaker 4: with Nick Chubb, and the feeling is there that Watson's

1938
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 4: could take a big step and having a full offseason

1939
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 4: with the football team.

1940
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Speaker 3: Okay, So Adam, explain to me this.

1941
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 2: Ty Bowles was talking about the quarterback situation and you

1942
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 2: got Kyle Trask and Baker Mayfield down to duking it

1943
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:43,840
Speaker 2: out and then you see some of the videos that

1944
01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 2: come out. How confident are they in either one of

1945
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks as their potential QB one.

1946
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,800
Speaker 4: I was talking to Rashad White, there's a second running

1947
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:55,920
Speaker 4: back there this week, and you know, I asked him,

1948
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:58,560
Speaker 4: I said, hey, could you break down kind of what

1949
01:37:58,640 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 4: you see from both guys? And he taught. We talked

1950
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:02,920
Speaker 4: about Trask first and he's been now with Trask for

1951
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 4: two seasons. This is the second year together with him,

1952
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 4: and look, Trask is a guy if you look at

1953
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:10,720
Speaker 4: his skill set. To be a Secon round pick, you've

1954
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 4: got to have skill. I mean, you're not going to

1955
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:15,600
Speaker 4: be like drafted that high without having the ability to

1956
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 4: get things done. And he's got a big arm. He

1957
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 4: doesn't move very well, although White said he's got he's

1958
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:23,560
Speaker 4: actually mima little bit. He's moving better now, which I

1959
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:27,639
Speaker 4: thought was interesting. But again this is in OTAs. It's

1960
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:30,720
Speaker 4: not a great situation Mayfield. Look, I know this. The

1961
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 4: talk at the combine was they were going to pursue Mayfield.

1962
01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:34,560
Speaker 4: I was pretty certain of that, and they did that.

1963
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:37,280
Speaker 4: But it's not a great situation. But the good thing

1964
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 4: is they've got a terrific receiver corps, the very high

1965
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 4: on second year ten M Kate Otton, who will take

1966
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:44,519
Speaker 4: over as a starter. So the skill the skill position

1967
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,959
Speaker 4: players are really good. It's just the quarterback situation. Bucky's

1968
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:51,360
Speaker 4: not until somebody shows that they could be a consistant player.

1969
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:53,920
Speaker 4: I would expect both guys to start this year, and

1970
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:55,679
Speaker 4: then the question is who could be the lead dog.

1971
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 4: That'll sort itself out in training camp. But there is

1972
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 4: a transition here, no Brady, Remember there's a change with

1973
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:05,680
Speaker 4: Byron Leftwich no longer there, and Dave Canalis, who came

1974
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 4: over from Seattle's there. He's calling the place for the

1975
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 4: first time. So it's really an interesting situation and it's

1976
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 4: certainly a changing of the guard here, all.

1977
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,720
Speaker 1: Right, I'm really curious to find out your take on this.

1978
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 1: All reports are as a Dalvin Cook has played his

1979
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 1: last game as a Viking, and Miami has been talked

1980
01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 1: about as a possible destination, and he's even talked that

1981
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 1: the Vikings may release him. He still hasn't clerated his

1982
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 1: twenty eighth birthday, and he's coming off a season which

1983
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 1: he started seventeen consecutive games, four st eight years of

1984
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 1: at least eleven hundred yards rushing. Why are the Vikings

1985
01:39:38,280 --> 01:39:40,280
Speaker 1: so anxious to get rid of Dalvin Cook?

1986
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 4: Well, okay, he's turned into twenty eight in August, which

1987
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 4: means your twenty eight NFL years. He's coming off shoulder surgery,

1988
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:49,719
Speaker 4: he's had any problems in his career. There's a center

1989
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 4: around the league that he's another guy at running back.

1990
01:39:52,560 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe he's got two years left in him. They

1991
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 4: also do not think he's worth his ten point four

1992
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 4: million dollar salary, which only two million of us fully

1993
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 4: guaranteed right now, and his cap number is over fourteen million,

1994
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 4: so they're going to want to lower that, and they

1995
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 4: also are looking potentially to get well, it's not potential,

1996
01:40:09,240 --> 01:40:12,479
Speaker 4: they want to get Justin Jefferson's extension done, which is

1997
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:16,879
Speaker 4: going to be massive. So that's part of this situation.

1998
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:21,799
Speaker 4: And now the other thing is interesting. They guaranteed almost

1999
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:26,760
Speaker 4: all of Alexander Madison's contract. He's making seven million over

2000
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 4: the next two seasons. They guaranteed six point three million

2001
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:31,479
Speaker 4: of it. That's a lot for a backup running back.

2002
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:33,639
Speaker 4: And it's almost like they knew something. But I remember

2003
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 4: talking to the Vikings about this. It's not like they

2004
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 4: don't want to cook back. They just they have a

2005
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,519
Speaker 4: number in mind and he's not willing to take it.

2006
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:44,800
Speaker 4: Won't He probably won't be with team now. I don't

2007
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 4: get the sense of Miami right now with trade for him.

2008
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:48,640
Speaker 4: I'm not saying they wouldn't change their mind on it.

2009
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:51,800
Speaker 4: It's just a situation where Miami just drafted a running

2010
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 4: back a Shane in the third round. They have Jeff

2011
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:57,400
Speaker 4: Wilson who fits this scheme or he mostered it's more

2012
01:40:57,400 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 4: of a really good special teams player could fill in

2013
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 4: it running back. One more guy, but they're not looking

2014
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:04,560
Speaker 4: to pay a lot of money, and that's that's the

2015
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 4: challenge here.

2016
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Speaker 3: And you have the Timman.

2017
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 2: It seems like there's a trend amongst quarterbacks to kind

2018
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 2: of get in great shape.

2019
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 3: And lean up and fill out and those things. And

2020
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:15,759
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Miami.

2021
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 2: I'm looking at to a type of a lowe and

2022
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 2: he looks like a different body type than the one

2023
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:21,920
Speaker 2: that we're seeing.

2024
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 3: What are you hearing about tua is progress down in Miami.

2025
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, he actually has bulked up that. It's true. This

2026
01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:30,679
Speaker 4: is something that he hopes will help him stay healthy.

2027
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 4: But is explain to me. The thing is the reason

2028
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:38,680
Speaker 4: why he gets hurt, including according to the people I've

2029
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 4: spoken with, he seems to hold on the ball a

2030
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:42,839
Speaker 4: little bit too long. He doesn't see the rush always.

2031
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 4: I mean, you could, he could put on twenty pounds

2032
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 4: of muscle, but it's not gonna stop him from being

2033
01:41:47,240 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 4: from getting hurt if you don't see the rush and

2034
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:51,679
Speaker 4: he needs to get rid of the ball faster. This offen,

2035
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 4: this old school West Coast offense that Mike mcdander runs,

2036
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 4: it does. I mean the reason why, too, when healthy

2037
01:41:58,160 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 4: played well is because he when he gets the football

2038
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 4: is like a point guard. But when he holds on

2039
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 4: to it, he takes too much contact. That's why it's

2040
01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 4: been hurting. They have a pretty good by the way,

2041
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:08,840
Speaker 4: They've got a pretty good backup in Mike White, who

2042
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:09,960
Speaker 4: did a good job for the Jets.

2043
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: All right, I want to get back to the Raiders

2044
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 1: for a moment here, and ownership of this franchise. It's

2045
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 1: a franchise I know a little bit about. The Davis

2046
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 1: family owns less than fifty percent of the team. Mark

2047
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 1: Davis's hold on ownership is precarious at best because his

2048
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:30,800
Speaker 1: mom's still alive. As long as his mom's still alive

2049
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 1: and she's in her nineties now, they're able to hold

2050
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 1: on to the team. There was a lot of hanky

2051
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:39,679
Speaker 1: panky before mister Davis passed away to ensure the Davis

2052
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 1: family still had controlling interest in the team. And now

2053
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:48,080
Speaker 1: we have Tom Brady, who, to most Raider fans, is

2054
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 1: about as hated as any player in the history of

2055
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 1: the NFL. You know, my attitude is, if I were

2056
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 1: a Raider fan, is I don't want this guy in

2057
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:59,600
Speaker 1: our organization. There's a lot of people have money. He

2058
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 1: doesn't have as much money as some other people. Are

2059
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 1: concerned until this guy comes clean and admits that he

2060
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 1: fumbled the ball and there was no you know, hanky panky.

2061
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 1: Why would I want this guy associated with the team.

2062
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 1: So I want to get your sense of the Brady

2063
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 1: buying into ownership and what that actually means in the

2064
01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 1: future as to who will ultimately own certainly one of

2065
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 1: the most marketable names in terms of franchise value in

2066
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 1: the National Football League.

2067
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 4: Let's look at the latter. It would only first of all,

2068
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 4: Brady would only have a very minor part of ownership.

2069
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:36,680
Speaker 4: Let's go to the real store here. I don't know

2070
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:38,960
Speaker 4: if you're aware of this, but my reporting back in

2071
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:41,680
Speaker 4: twenty twenty they were going to sign Brady, I mean,

2072
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 4: this was going to happen, and then Brady. There were

2073
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 4: some things they didn't want to do with Brady wants,

2074
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 4: some other things there, and they just they couldn't come

2075
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:54,360
Speaker 4: to an agreement. In fact, they were pretty steap fast.

2076
01:43:54,439 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 4: He was going to be their guy. Mark Davis, by

2077
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:58,560
Speaker 4: the way, was really the one sort of driving the

2078
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 4: train there and it just didn't happen. But the fact

2079
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 4: of matter, and by the way, it sounded like Dark

2080
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:05,640
Speaker 4: Car didn't know about it. Dark Carr was aware of it.

2081
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 4: But the bottom line is when you look at the situation,

2082
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:11,720
Speaker 4: people have talked about the raid for years. Mark Dave

2083
01:44:11,760 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 4: was always needing money, always needing money. They're the team

2084
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 4: that doesn't have a ton of money, but it's never

2085
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 4: stopped them from paying big contracts and so forth, just

2086
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,400
Speaker 4: like Mark's dad did, Al Davis in his the latter

2087
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 4: of years. I don't know if you know this, they

2088
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 4: did some of the contracts which I mean would be

2089
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 4: turned out to be some of the worst in NFL history. Yeah,

2090
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:32,360
Speaker 4: Javon Walker and one of them I could, I mean

2091
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:33,720
Speaker 4: went off time for this, but I could give you

2092
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 4: five or six where you'd shake your head. You cannot

2093
01:44:35,560 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 4: believe that I'll did these deals. But they've looked. They don't.

2094
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 4: They've never not paid people. That's never been in terms

2095
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 4: of contracts for players. The other stuff is another story.

2096
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:48,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll see how this all plays out, all right. Well, Adam,

2097
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:51,520
Speaker 1: by the way, are you making any rounds with the OTAs.

2098
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go to the Eagles next week, probably

2099
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 4: the Ravens, probably the Ravens. But what I will be

2100
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 4: doing when we speak in July and August, you know,

2101
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 4: I'm big on these joint practices. I'm probably gonna see

2102
01:45:02,240 --> 01:45:07,200
Speaker 4: combined ten of them. Boy, Like, it seems like half

2103
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 4: the league already has announce that they're practicing with each other,

2104
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:11,720
Speaker 4: which is great. That's able to see two teams at

2105
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:12,639
Speaker 4: once is a pretty good thing.

2106
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:15,799
Speaker 1: Oh, I love those I saw years ago a scrimmage

2107
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:18,800
Speaker 1: between the Chargers and the Cardinals. They got far more

2108
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 1: work done in that than any Kakamami preseason game. Believe me,

2109
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 1: because you you know, you say all right, this is

2110
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 1: what we're working on, and then return the other team says, fine,

2111
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 1: well that's what this is what we want to work on.

2112
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 1: It's far more productive. Adam, you're the absolute best. We'll

2113
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:34,840
Speaker 1: check in with you next week. Thank you so much.

2114
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 4: Eric, Thank you.

2115
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:41,360
Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan are Fox Sports Radio, NFL insider. It's allly

2116
01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:45,960
Speaker 1: good stuff. Yeah, the Davis family is He's right. I mean,

2117
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:48,040
Speaker 1: the Davis family has never had a lot of money,

2118
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 1: and again they own less than fifty percent of the team,

2119
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:56,280
Speaker 1: so it's a precarious situation. The fact that missus Davis

2120
01:45:56,320 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 1: got bless her is still around, that's crazy. I mean,

2121
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 1: and I was working for this team forty years ago.

2122
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 1: She was coming off a very serious stroke and we

2123
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 1: were very worried about her future.

2124
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 3: She's still going, still hanging.

2125
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:13,680
Speaker 1: Carol Davis, absolutely amazing. Let's find out what's trending right

2126
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:18,640
Speaker 1: now speaking about a man, just a man, you know,

2127
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:22,760
Speaker 1: a man in general, you know a man that that

2128
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 1: guy looking over there, and I'm like realizing, that's exactly

2129
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 1: what you are, man.

2130
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:29,439
Speaker 4: Right, that's amazing, you know.

2131
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:33,519
Speaker 8: So we do have as you were talking to Adam,

2132
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:37,320
Speaker 8: from one NFL insider to another, and one who is

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Speaker 8: employed by ESPN is reporting that there is a new

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Speaker 8: contract extension in order for Buffalo Bill's defensive tackle Ed Oliver.

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Speaker 8: Four years, sixty eight million dollars is the extension and

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Speaker 8: the finer details including forty five million dollars guaranteed. Still

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Speaker 8: has one year remaining on his prior contract, so he

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Speaker 8: technically has five years on a contract now for a

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Speaker 8: Buffalo as they bring on some extra cash for him. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 8: Washington Nationals right hander Steven Strasberg reportedly is facing severe

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Speaker 8: nerve damage and it has become so severe that there

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Speaker 8: really is a just glimmer of hope that he'll ever

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Speaker 8: pitch in another Major League Baseball game. That's as dire

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Speaker 8: as it gets as far as his longevity and his

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Speaker 8: hopes of playing in the BIGS, but as far as

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Speaker 8: Major League Baseball is concerned, the Rangers are just taking

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Speaker 8: a crowbar out here on the Mariners fifteen to three

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Speaker 8: bottom of the seventh, Corey Seeger, three RBI, Angels, and

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Speaker 8: Astros are into.

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Speaker 4: The seventh inning. The Stros are leading seven to five.

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Speaker 8: They got an Alex Bregman grand slam, Brewers double digits,

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Speaker 8: ten runs for them, six for the Reds.

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Speaker 4: Top of the eighth.

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Speaker 8: There, Mets and Blue Jays all square at one in

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01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 8: the bottom of the seventh completed games. The Red Sox

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01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,599
Speaker 8: win Game one of a doubleheader eight to five against

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Speaker 8: the Rays. Excuse me, six runs scored on that sixth

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Speaker 8: inning for the Red Sox, White Sox and Tigers went

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Speaker 8: into the tenth inning and Chicago won that two to one.

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Speaker 8: All three of those runs were scored via a wild pitch,

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Speaker 8: So what a game that must have been. And the

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Speaker 8: Phillies find a way to beat the Nationals four to two.

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01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:20,839
Speaker 8: We do know that Game two of the NBA Finals

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Speaker 8: is tomorrow night and both teams heat head coach and

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Speaker 8: of course the Denver Nuggets head coach and Michael Malone.

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Speaker 8: But on the heat side their head coach, Eric Spolster

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Speaker 8: talk to the media today. Nothing new as far as

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Speaker 8: what he said about Tyler here on the chances that

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Speaker 8: he could play tomorrow dealing with that right hand injury.

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Speaker 8: Spolster adding that more will be known on Hero status

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Speaker 8: by tomorrow as far as whether Hero can play or not.

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Speaker 8: In golf, we do know that the third round of

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01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 8: the Memorial Tournament has wrapped up and we've got a

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Speaker 8: two way tie for first with one round to go.

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Speaker 8: Rory McElroy all the way up there, shooting up to

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Speaker 8: the died up there with David Lipski, and so it's

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Speaker 8: actually a three way tie for first including those two,

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01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:11,640
Speaker 8: but Bucky and Steve. Rory McElroy making some noise here

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Speaker 8: with a thirty five on his back side and would

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01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:18,679
Speaker 8: love to get himself another win here on the PGA circuit.

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Speaker 1: Well, as you know, the family are two weeks away

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Speaker 1: from the US Open, which will be played at the

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Speaker 1: La country Club that nobody in La know exists unless

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Speaker 1: you're actually a member of that country club. It's I've

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Speaker 1: literally been asked by people like where he is the

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Speaker 1: LA country Club? I go, have you ever driven on

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Speaker 1: Wilshire Boulevard? But like, yeah, all the time, I said,

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01:49:39,560 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 1: then you have literally driven by it every time you're

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Speaker 1: on Wilster Boulevard. Well, some people confuse it for Wilshire

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Speaker 1: Country Club, right, which is not that far away. It's

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Speaker 1: I put it this way, it's a course that has

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Speaker 1: never been used for tournament golf.

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Speaker 6: Really.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess the Walker Cup, which is like

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01:49:57,080 --> 01:50:00,200
Speaker 1: sort of the amateur version of the Ryder Cup up

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01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:03,640
Speaker 1: posted a few years ago. It hosted the what was

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Speaker 1: the LA Open back in the thirties and forties, But

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Speaker 1: it's not a tournament golf course. So we when you

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Speaker 1: talk about a course where we have no clue. It's

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01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:17,840
Speaker 1: a beautiful course, but it's there's no history there at

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Speaker 1: all when it comes to tournament golf.

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Speaker 8: The parking situation over there is going to be, my madness,

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01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:24,720
Speaker 8: what they're saying now. There are going to be some

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01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 8: big outlets malls where they're encouraging everybody to park there

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01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:31,960
Speaker 8: and then shuttle on site. Because if you have a

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01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:35,720
Speaker 8: ticket to getting an opportunity to parking spot on site,

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01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 8: you have to be very prestigious. And unfortunately Steveyerry, none

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01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:43,920
Speaker 8: of us, wait, none of us rate that high.

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Speaker 1: None of us are even in the ballpark. We're not

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Speaker 1: even good enough to park the car as much as

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Speaker 1: park Park our car. All right, bfnn, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Once again, we're coming alive from the tire rack dot

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Speaker 1: Com studios. This just in Michael, do not call me

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01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:04,519
Speaker 1: Mike alone, head coach of the Denver Nuggets. I told

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01:51:04,600 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 1: our players today, don't read the paper, don't listen to

2216
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,600
Speaker 1: the folks on the radio and TV saying that this

2217
01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 1: series is over and that we've done something, because we

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01:51:14,160 --> 01:51:15,760
Speaker 1: haven't done a damn thing.

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01:51:17,000 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 8: Now.

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01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 1: Malone is really hammering his team for what he called

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01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:24,080
Speaker 1: their atrocious defense. Quote. I don't think we played well

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01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 1: in Game one. I watched the tape. They were five

2223
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:29,840
Speaker 1: of sixteen on wide open threes. As I told our

2224
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 1: players this morning, the fact that they got sixteen wide

2225
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:37,120
Speaker 1: open threes is problematic. If you think that Max Truce

2226
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 1: is going to go zero for nine again, or Duncan

2227
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:42,840
Speaker 1: Robinson is going to go one for five, you're wrong.

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01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 1: So Malone's taking a different tack. Yes, Edgy, you know

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01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:52,880
Speaker 1: I saw prior to Game one he talked about the

2230
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 1: fact with his team that the heated won game one

2231
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 1: of each series against the Knicks, against the Bucks, against

2232
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 1: the Celtic on road, on the road to jump and

2233
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:05,960
Speaker 1: get that home court advantage, and he's like, not on

2234
01:52:06,160 --> 01:52:10,800
Speaker 1: our court. Okay, so they got game one. When you

2235
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:15,919
Speaker 1: have a coach that is constantly bringing up the negative

2236
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 1: and I know this is this is not It's not

2237
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 1: exclusive to Malone Belichick. Does a lot of guys do

2238
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 1: you know you win a game fifteen or nothing? All

2239
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 1: they can do is Nick pick on. How does that

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01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:30,439
Speaker 1: translate to a player? I mean, you come off the court,

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01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 1: you're feeling good, you won a big games, the first

2242
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:37,160
Speaker 1: you know, finals game in franchise history. It wasn't right.

2243
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:40,559
Speaker 1: They were really threatened in Game one, and then your

2244
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 1: coach is all over you saying, yeah, we played terrible.

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01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:45,680
Speaker 3: That's the time that you do it.

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01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:48,639
Speaker 2: So you can be the hardest on your team after

2247
01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:51,519
Speaker 2: they've had a little success, right. And the reason why

2248
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 2: you want to be hard on him in this situation

2249
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 2: is because this, like the last twenty four to thirty

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01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 2: six hours, we've heard, oh it's over, it's only a

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01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 2: mere fury until it's a four game sweep. It's out

2252
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:05,400
Speaker 2: of here. It's a mismatch of epic proportions. There's no

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01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:08,240
Speaker 2: way the Miami he can slow down that. So if

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01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 2: that is playing on repeat, throughout the locker room and

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01:53:11,479 --> 01:53:15,839
Speaker 2: the facility, and whenever they go home, the players naturally

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01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:18,360
Speaker 2: have a tendency to let up. And so what Mike

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01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 2: Malone is trying to do is no, no, no, no, no,

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01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 2: don't be tricked. When you look at the tape, they

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01:53:23,880 --> 01:53:26,240
Speaker 2: missed a lot of wide open shots and if they

2260
01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 2: knock those shots down, guys, we can be in trouble.

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01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 2: And so he is doing a good job of holding

2262
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:33,400
Speaker 2: them accountable for some of the mistakes that they made. Now,

2263
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:37,120
Speaker 2: I will give him credit whenever they've been in a

2264
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:39,800
Speaker 2: downturn or they lost, he's the first one to build

2265
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:42,600
Speaker 2: him back up. And so it has to be that

2266
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 2: delicate balance of Hey, I can go hard, an't you,

2267
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:48,400
Speaker 2: but I also can be your biggest support and advocate

2268
01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 2: when things aren't going their way. But to be honest,

2269
01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 2: there haven't been many things that haven't gone the Nuggets way.

2270
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:58,759
Speaker 2: So what I want to see what happens if things

2271
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:01,599
Speaker 2: don't go their way, if they do happen to drop

2272
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 2: Game two, because they've been on easy street throughout the postseason,

2273
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:08,760
Speaker 2: whereas the Heat has had to kind of grind and

2274
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 2: make their way through from playing all the way. I

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01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:14,560
Speaker 2: just want to see how do the Nuggets handle a

2276
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 2: little adversity they could come their way.

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01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:20,519
Speaker 1: Well, again, I'm looking at my star players and Jokic

2278
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 1: Emery both had twenty five points, double digit assist last

2279
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 1: time teammates did that, and an NBA Finals game was

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01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:30,560
Speaker 1: magic and worthy. So it's been a while, so think so.

2281
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 1: But I mean, my point is is there is a

2282
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:36,920
Speaker 1: certain maturity factor in those two guys that to me,

2283
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 1: prevents the idea that both would have an off night.

2284
01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 1: To me, both would have to have an off night

2285
01:54:43,600 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 1: both both for the Heat to get there. Now, the

2286
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:49,280
Speaker 1: Tyler hero situation, I mean, I don't know if this

2287
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 1: is real. If you know Sposer just throwing it out there,

2288
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 1: he might play. I'm sure Malone is. You know, he's

2289
01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:57,480
Speaker 1: working out, and we're talking about a guy that can

2290
01:54:57,600 --> 01:55:00,760
Speaker 1: put up twenty on you very easily knocked down threes

2291
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 1: and and certainly changed the dynamic. But my point for

2292
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:07,800
Speaker 1: the Nuggets is is that what we are doing defensively

2293
01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 1: is taking away the easy basket. In other words, for

2294
01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:13,360
Speaker 1: the Heat to stay in that game, they had to

2295
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 1: knock down threes and they weren't able to do that.

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01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:17,360
Speaker 4: I think the.

2297
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:20,760
Speaker 3: Size as a major factor.

2298
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:25,440
Speaker 2: So this will be the game I feel they will

2299
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:27,720
Speaker 2: finally get a chance to see Eric s Bolster make

2300
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:28,400
Speaker 2: some adjustments.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm calling you, mister Miami Heat, because you

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Speaker 1: have an allegiance to this organization. So on the other side,

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01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:37,760
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks speaking from the heart, is it possible, Is

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01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 1: it possible that his team not wishful thinking? Is there

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01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:45,520
Speaker 1: a strategy that will deliver a w on the road

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01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:47,440
Speaker 1: against a Nuggets team that has not lost a home

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01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:50,800
Speaker 1: game throughout these entire playoffs. We'll have that answer coming up.

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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Saturday to one pitch. Swinging a

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01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:58,640
Speaker 1: high fly deep left center field back and looking is Dickerson.

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01:55:58,800 --> 01:55:59,520
Speaker 4: He's out of room.

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01:55:59,640 --> 01:56:01,600
Speaker 1: It's into the Phillies bullpen.

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01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:06,080
Speaker 8: Jt Realmuto with his fourth home run of the season

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01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:09,320
Speaker 8: and he puts the Phillies back in front.

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01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:15,000
Speaker 1: That's ninety four point one. Wip the Phillies a radio network,

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01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 1: Phillies trying to get off the mat, Gonna win on

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01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 1: the road against the Nationals today, the defending National League champs,

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01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:25,440
Speaker 1: still six games below five hundred. By the way, that's

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Speaker 1: Hartman and Bucky Brooks. We are live from the tire

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Speaker 1: Rack dot Com studios. We do not do this show alone.

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01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:52,080
Speaker 1: We have a mass of talent on the other side

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01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:55,280
Speaker 1: manning the board. Wait, Iowa Sam earlier, and then Alex

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01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:57,440
Speaker 1: jumps in here. I don't know how Alex ended up

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01:56:57,480 --> 01:57:01,240
Speaker 1: back on the weekends here. It just it's always great

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01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:04,240
Speaker 1: to see you. It just unexpected. We thought you had

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01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 1: graduated from this level. So apparently I'm like a souvenir

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01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:10,240
Speaker 1: here now. I just keeps showing up to remind us

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01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 1: of how great it is. I feel the same way

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01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:15,880
Speaker 1: every once in a while. Of course. Uh well, Brian

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01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 1: Family was here earlier doing all the updates for us.

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01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:21,720
Speaker 1: Be Fenn was great as always, and then of course

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01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:26,160
Speaker 1: our brilliant producer Brandon uh whose padres continue to circle

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Speaker 1: the drain.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just awful.

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01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 1: Two to one yesterday the Cubs two to one yesterday,

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01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:35,040
Speaker 1: One Yeah, to the Cubs at home, to a guy

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01:57:35,080 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 1: who gives up, who has an ERA of eight.

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01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it all started with de Meme on the scoreboard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't help. Didn't help, didn't help. And then

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Speaker 1: Tati's doing the bat toss at Yankee Stadium, you know,

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01:57:46,480 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 1: doing that, you know, and I got no problem with that,

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Speaker 1: But then you ended up losing back to back games

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Speaker 1: of the Yankees.

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Speaker 3: How you do anything? So, how you do everything? You

2349
01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:56,800
Speaker 3: want them to flip the bath but then see it's.

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Speaker 1: Just how you got to get on a run. Well, yeah,

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01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:01,960
Speaker 1: there's a lot of problems with this giant. I mean,

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01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:05,080
Speaker 1: I'm just curious because you know, obviously I was down

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01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:07,680
Speaker 1: there for a long time, and Preller has been their

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01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:11,720
Speaker 1: general manager. It's very similar to the Telesco situation with

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01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 1: the Chargers, where at some point you got to say,

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Speaker 1: how is this guy still in charge? How's Preller still

2357
01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:22,120
Speaker 1: the guy after ten years? You know, and they've had

2358
01:58:22,360 --> 01:58:26,640
Speaker 1: two playoff runs and they spent a bowtload of money

2359
01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:32,240
Speaker 1: to assemble a seemingly unmatched lineup. Well, is not working.

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Speaker 1: The product has to perform well. Again, if I'm ownership,

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01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:41,040
Speaker 1: because they have great ownership, because ownership in San Diego

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01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 1: has said we'll spend the money even though we are

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01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:46,480
Speaker 1: deemed a small market team. They have you know, by

2364
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:48,960
Speaker 1: the way, every small market team hates the pod Rays

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01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:51,040
Speaker 1: because they've proven there is no such thing as a

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01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 1: small market team. There's a small spending team, and they've

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01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:57,520
Speaker 1: spent like they're the Dodgers and the Yankees, and they're

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01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:00,440
Speaker 1: getting no return on their dollar, at least at this point.

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Speaker 1: All right, Bucky, I've given you plenty of time to

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01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:07,120
Speaker 1: think this thing out. Mm hmm uh. How how far

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01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:09,880
Speaker 1: back does your allegiance to the Miami Heat go?

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Speaker 2: This is go way for I mean, it goes back

2373
01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:15,400
Speaker 2: as far as when I've been ahead coach at Grenada Hills.

2374
01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:18,240
Speaker 2: Because you look at teams and programs that you admire,

2375
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:20,880
Speaker 2: guys who you kind of think do it the right way.

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01:59:20,920 --> 01:59:23,280
Speaker 2: So it kind of goes back to that, I will

2377
01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:26,000
Speaker 2: say when I look at this situation, because the one

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01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:27,600
Speaker 2: thing you want all your teams to do is you

2379
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:29,560
Speaker 2: want them to exhibit toughness. You want them to play hard,

2380
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 2: so they do that. The problem is the Denver Nuggets

2381
01:59:33,240 --> 01:59:35,720
Speaker 2: also do it, but they're more talented. So this is

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01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 2: going to be one where Eric suppose is gonna have

2383
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:40,400
Speaker 2: to be in his bag. Some of the things that

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01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:43,040
Speaker 2: they did against the Boston Celts could probably help them.

2385
01:59:43,360 --> 01:59:45,400
Speaker 2: Maybe pick up a little of the pressure early in

2386
01:59:45,480 --> 01:59:48,040
Speaker 2: the back court, burn up some of that shot clock,

2387
01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:50,880
Speaker 2: then fall back in the zone, make them take rough shots.

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01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to go and put their foot in

2389
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:56,200
Speaker 2: the pain and be committed to try and get close shots,

2390
01:59:56,280 --> 02:00:00,000
Speaker 2: layups and files. The size is so intimidating. Jimmy Butler though,

2391
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:01,480
Speaker 2: those guys and I want to get in and get.

2392
02:00:01,320 --> 02:00:01,920
Speaker 3: Their shot blocks.

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02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 2: So they're gonna have to challenge the Nuggets in a

2394
02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:06,440
Speaker 2: different way, maybe play with a little more pace. It

2395
02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:08,080
Speaker 2: can be done, but they're gonna have to They're gonna

2396
02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:09,440
Speaker 2: have to play great. They're gonna have to play well.

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Speaker 1: One thing about Sporlzer throughout this playoff run by the

2398
02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:14,760
Speaker 1: Heat as an eight sea making it to the finals

2399
02:00:14,880 --> 02:00:17,880
Speaker 1: is even when they lose, he's laughing. I mean every

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Speaker 1: time I'm looking up at him, whether it's post game

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Speaker 1: after a loss, even after that seemingly devastating home loss

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Speaker 1: in Game six that everyone said, well they can't lose

2403
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:27,720
Speaker 1: Game six at home. They'll never be able to go

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Speaker 1: back to Boston. They win a Game seven. He was

2405
02:00:30,040 --> 02:00:32,640
Speaker 1: joking about it. I mean, you know, and he saw,

2406
02:00:32,920 --> 02:00:34,720
Speaker 1: you know, White come back with that follow he goes,

2407
02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:39,880
Speaker 1: you understand a course that that ball bounces anywhere two

2408
02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:43,680
Speaker 1: inches in any other direction because he didn't put the

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02:00:43,760 --> 02:00:47,240
Speaker 1: ball back and he volleyball set it in. That's all

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Speaker 1: the time he had. So it was a perfect and

2411
02:00:49,760 --> 02:00:52,200
Speaker 1: he and he laughed it off and he didn't commiser.

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02:00:52,240 --> 02:00:54,320
Speaker 1: Rady just said, look, we'll come back game seven, and

2413
02:00:54,440 --> 02:00:56,680
Speaker 1: they came back in a big way. So now I'm

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Speaker 1: not I'm not discounting this Miami Heat team. But this

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02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:05,080
Speaker 1: team rolls with Jimmy Butler. I mean, and Butler needs

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02:01:05,200 --> 02:01:07,560
Speaker 1: to have a monster game.

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Speaker 3: He has to show up. He has to have more

2418
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Speaker 3: of an impact.

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02:01:10,120 --> 02:01:12,000
Speaker 2: I don't mean it doesn't mean thirty points, but he

2420
02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:14,680
Speaker 2: has to be very, very involved in the action.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know if there's another game

2422
02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:19,560
Speaker 1: because to see Wednesday, I mean, this series is going

2423
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:20,600
Speaker 1: to drag on for a while.

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Speaker 3: So we love it.

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02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:22,480
Speaker 4: We love it.

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Speaker 1: Alright, Hey don't go anywhere, folks, keep it right here.

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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Radio.