1 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: I'm Rashaan McDonald, the host of Money Making Conversations Masterclass, 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: where we encourage people to stop reading other people's success 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 2: stories and. 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: Start planning their own. Listen up as. 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 2: I interview entrepreneurs from around the country, talk to celebrities 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: and ask them how they are running their companies, and 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 2: speak with dog profits who are making a difference in 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: their local communities. Now, sit back and listen as we 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: unlock the secrets to their success on Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Hi, 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: I'm Rashaan McDonald, a host this weekly Money Making Conversations 12 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: Masterclass show. The interviews and information that this show provides 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 2: offer everyone. It's time to stop reading other people's success 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: stories and start living your own. If you want to 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: be a guesst on my show, please visit my website, 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: Moneymakingconversation dot com and click the b a guest button. 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: My guest is an independent mortgage broker. She's committed to 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: delivering exceptionals service. Do a focus on accountability and securing 19 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: the right mortgage for your home. They'll ensure a smooth 20 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: and seamless home buying process. Please work with the Money 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: Making Conversations Masterclass Latree's price get stalled. You know French 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: that gestalled. You got to got to put that gets stared. 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 2: From Houston, Texas the tree, So you know down there 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: y'all do all the San Antonio people listalled. 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: How you doing, my friend Letree, How you doing? 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 3: I'm doing great? How are you doing? 27 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: Finance? What's your what's your background? When you start talking 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 2: about you know, mortgage brokering and brokery and accountability and finance. 29 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: Give us a little history on you before we get 30 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: started and get deep into this interview. 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 4: Well, I am originally from San Antonio, Texas, and I 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 4: have a bachelor's degree in finance, and I've been in 33 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: finance since nineteen ninety nine. Where I originally started out 34 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 4: working in investment operations, which consists of like settlements operations 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 4: and and investment accounting. And then like around twenty twelve 36 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 4: or so, I moved over to doing auto of financing. 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 4: My husband and I we opened up a car dealership 38 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: and I was part owner and also our finance manager, 39 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:22,119 Speaker 4: where I helped customers get financing for their cars. We 40 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 4: focused a lot on first time buyers and just pretty 41 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 4: much took care of them to make sure that they 42 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 4: were not being taken advantage of and getting good interest 43 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: rates and good payments that they could maintain because a 44 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 4: lot of the customers were like your college students and 45 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 4: first time buyers who had just who had just actually 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 4: just graduated from college. 47 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: And then right in the middle of all that, you know, well. 48 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 4: At the time, there was a lot of favor with 49 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 4: auto lending and so forth, and so a lot of 50 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 4: that changed, unfortunately, And so then I started looking into 51 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 4: mortgage financing just to kind of like compliment what I 52 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 4: was already doing. And that's pretty much how I ended 53 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: up in mortgages. I started well, I obtained my license 54 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 4: in twenty eighteen, and then in twenty twenty two I 55 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 4: decided to go ahead and take the leap and become 56 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 4: an independent mortgage broker where I. 57 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: Have my Well, I don't think you just took a leap. 58 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: You're a planner. 59 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: You're a planner now because you're dealing with numbers, so 60 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 2: you already know about taxes, you already know about understanding 61 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: the you know that profit margin that you have to 62 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 2: achieve now. As in the car industry, first of all, 63 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: are rarely meet a person of color who said they 64 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: went in the car dealership. You know, you re meet 65 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 2: car sellers, of car mechanics, of people of color. How 66 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: did y'all get into the auto industry from a dealership standpoint? 67 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 4: Well, actually, my husband he had his first car dealership 68 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 4: in San Antonio in the early nineties and it went 69 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 4: fairly well for him. He ventured off into doing some 70 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: other things, into like promotions and so forth, and then 71 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 4: around that time he decided to just go ahead and 72 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 4: start to do the car dealership again. But he didn't 73 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 4: want to do it the same way he did it before. 74 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 4: He decided to do it differently this time. And it 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 4: went very well for a while because it was around 76 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 4: the time when Obama was, you know, issuing out all 77 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 4: of the rescue money, and so the lending guidelines were 78 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 4: very helpful for those who were having a difficult time, 79 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 4: you know, at that particular time. And unfortunately they had 80 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: to go back and tighten up those lending guidelines again 81 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 4: and that changed the industry. And then COVID came right 82 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 4: behind that and made it even more tighter. 83 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: So cool now you could have asked this one car, 84 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: what about car dealerships? You know, you know, I've had 85 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: a lot of used cars in my life and I've 86 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: traded them in. Now should I have haggle to get 87 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: the price down the trees? Because I always trade it 88 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: in my used car, which would have been a better 89 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: right that you way that you would have recommended, and 90 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: just listening and people listening may follow your advice or 91 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 2: they might do their own thing. 92 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: What would you suggest haggling a trade in and used car? 93 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 4: I think that you should do definitely negotiate and make 94 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 4: sure that you get in the right deal. And you know, 95 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: a lot of people they go to Kelly Bluebook to 96 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 4: reference the value for their car, but I personally recommend 97 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 4: you going to Nada dot com their powered by Geni 98 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 4: Powers and associates now and they tend to give a 99 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 4: better explanation of what the value is of your car 100 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: because it gives it whether or not if it's in 101 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: good condition or a bad condition, or if it's even 102 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 4: in a syllable condition, and so you can kind of 103 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 4: you can negotiate off of those numbers. A lot of 104 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 4: times of dealerships they don't. They just assume that you 105 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 4: don't really know what the value of your car is. 106 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 4: And if you come in and you and you're educated 107 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 4: and you can you know, discuss on those particular parameters. 108 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 4: You could say, well, no, you know my car. You know, 109 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 4: I just did this, this, and this to my car, 110 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 4: so it's actually valued at this particular number, and this 111 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 4: is what I would like to have because they're going 112 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 4: to pay you what they're going to pay you and 113 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: turn back around and sell it and make sure that 114 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 4: they get. 115 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, like anything, do your homework. 116 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: Yes, going there and have a stand a value stand 117 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: on your vehicle before you start trying to ask somebody 118 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: what they think is going to call yes them. 119 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 3: Because they're going to make sure they make their money. 120 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 5: Right. 121 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're good. 122 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,119 Speaker 2: Well, I brought you on the show to talk about 123 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: being an independent mortgage broker. The word independent is powerful. Yes, 124 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: you know, how are you an independent mortgage broker? First question? Secondly, 125 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: why are you an independent mortgage broker? 126 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 4: Okay, I am an independent mortgage broker because I basically 127 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: hold my own license as a broker. So I go 128 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 4: out and I establish relationships with various lenders to provide 129 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: different loan options to my borrowers. You know, I have 130 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 4: lenders that will cater to individuals who may be self employed, 131 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 4: who may have a difficult time getting approved. I also 132 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: have lenders who cater to first time buyers. I have 133 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 4: lenders that cater to those who may need help, you know, 134 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 4: due to citizenship, you know issues and so forth. 135 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: I mean, there's all types of lenders out there. 136 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 4: And so as a broker, you serve as that advocate 137 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: for your borrower to make sure that they're getting the 138 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 4: right loan product and not necessarily just getting approved, but 139 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 4: you know, do they have the right product that fits 140 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 4: their particular needs and so forth. 141 00:07:53,920 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so, but why. 142 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 4: Well, what made me become well decide to become a 143 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 4: mortgage broker was I had actually been laid off at 144 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 4: a company. 145 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: It was a builder. 146 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 4: It was like in late twenty twenty two, the interest 147 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: rates has started to really go up, and so they 148 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 4: had lost like sixty eight percent of their contracts due 149 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 4: to borrowers falling out because they could no longer fit 150 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 4: the home because they were in the middle of construction 151 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 4: and so forth. And so I was faced with having 152 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 4: to go and find something, find new employment and so forth. 153 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 4: And so I just noticed that, you know, the commission 154 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 4: negotiations just did not fit my needs. And so I'll 155 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 4: just figure I might as well just go ahead and 156 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: advocate for people like I do, and also keep my 157 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 4: commissions at the same time. 158 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: There are certain things as you gain equity. That's the 159 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: big thing. That's the goal in any house is to 160 00:08:55,679 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: gain equity. Explain to us the value of mortgages when 161 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: you hit a certain age and you have a certain 162 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: equity in your house. 163 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 4: Okay, Well, I will say this due to the fact 164 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 4: that a lot of people do not really have very 165 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 4: much knowledge in reversed mortgages. The usage of them are 166 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: only like about two to three percent of senior citizens, 167 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: and it's typically in the age range like around seventy 168 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 4: five and older. And that's typically when people will you know, 169 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 4: will have enough equity in their home and or have 170 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 4: exhausted their retirement funds and have high medical costs and 171 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 4: so forth, and so it's just a way for them 172 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 4: to be able to have tax free cash coming into 173 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 4: their home. They can either take a lump sum amount, 174 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 4: or they can get they could receive a monthly payment, 175 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 4: or they can open up a line of credit where 176 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 4: they just withdraw the money out every month. I feel 177 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 4: like it is a good option for those, you know, 178 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 4: for individuals that are in that particular age range who 179 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 4: have a exhausted their retirement funds or have limited retirement funds. 180 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 4: And you know, it's just unfortunate that people typically do 181 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: not have enough education, you know, about them because what 182 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: happens sometimes is is that you know, they'll take out 183 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: the reverse mortgage and the family is unaware and when 184 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 4: they passed away, they don't know that the debt is there. 185 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 4: And so but what the family can do is if 186 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 4: they want to keep the keep the home in the family, 187 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 4: they can refinance it, you know, if they want to 188 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 4: keep it, or they can just sell it to pay 189 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 4: off the debt. Flowers while they're here. You know, they 190 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 4: paid all the equity into the house, so. 191 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 5: You know. 192 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you this question. Write quickly tree. 193 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: I'm talking to the Tree's Price Get Started and independent mortgage 194 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: broker based in Houston, Texas. Okay, you take out a 195 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 2: lump sum? How does that work? How are you paying 196 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: it back? If you have no money and you having 197 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: financial issues and you do a lump sum or how 198 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 2: exactly walk me through how a reverse mortgage works and 199 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: how exactly. 200 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: Does it benefit? 201 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: Because if you if you take some money, they're going 202 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: to want it back. So how are they making those 203 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: payments back of the lump sum. Are the monthly songs 204 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: that they're requesting. 205 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: Well, the beauty of it is there are no monthly 206 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 4: payments going back to the institution. The data is paid 207 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 4: off when the home is paid off, you know, like 208 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 4: when the person passes away. The family can either refinance 209 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 4: it into their name or they can sell the home. 210 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 211 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. So so let's use some numbers. 212 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: So if the house is two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, yes, 213 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: then you can do a reverse mortgage own the equity 214 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: or the value of the home. 215 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: The equity, that's what you're saying. 216 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and you would need fifty percent of equity 217 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 4: in the home to be able to do it. 218 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: Okay, cool, So that means that you can do a 219 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: reverse mortgage on one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars. Yes, 220 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: if it's two hundred and fifty thousand dollars house, and 221 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 2: then they receiving payments, they don't have to make any 222 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: payments back. 223 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: But that's why you were saying, Rashan. 224 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 2: Generally people who do these reverse mortgages are in their seventies. 225 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: Yes, because it's not something you want to do in 226 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: your fifties? 227 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: No, no, okay, cool, Now that I. 228 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: Have to be at least sixty two years old. 229 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 4: I'm just saying that typically most of the barbers in 230 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,479 Speaker 4: that range are around the seventy five ish range. 231 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: Right, so it has to be sixty two years old. 232 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: So do you handle those type of situations there? 233 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: Do? 234 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: Okay? 235 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: How does one contact you? Or how does one do? 236 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: You have a website? Let's start there. Let's start breaking 237 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: down the lines of communication. If somebody wanted to are 238 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 2: considering it, wanted to be educated about reverse mortgages, how 239 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: did they reach out to you? 240 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 4: They can reach me by phone at three four six 241 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 4: four seven six nine five five nine, or they can 242 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 4: go to my website ACI Mortgage LLC dot com. 243 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 2: Okay, cool, Now on to the next point, zero down 244 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: payment programs. Okay, I'm speaking to Lutreces Price gets started. 245 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: What exactly is that zero down payment program? 246 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 4: Well, I have a I have a lender that is 247 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 4: that that has that promotion at the at the present time. 248 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 4: And what they do is they loan the amount that's 249 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 4: needed for the down payment. It's it's up to like 250 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 4: three percent of the loan. And what they do is 251 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 4: they put the loan, they attach it to the actual 252 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 4: mortgage itself, and then it is it is paid. It 253 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 4: is paid off once the loan is either sold or 254 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 4: either refinance, but up until then it is it is 255 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 4: part of the part of the mortgage. But I also 256 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 4: do have other down payment assistance programs that will give 257 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 4: up to five percent of the value of the loan. 258 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 4: So what happens is with some people they use like 259 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 4: the three to three and a half percent that's required 260 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 4: for the down payment and then the remaining of the 261 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 4: five percent to pay off to help with the closing cost. 262 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 4: And so that's pretty much where that assistant comes into play. 263 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 5: Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more 264 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 5: money Making Conversations Masterclass. Welcome back to the Money Making 265 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 5: Conversations Masterclass, hosted by Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations Masterclass 266 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 5: continues online at Moneymakingconversations dot com and follow money Making 267 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 5: Conversations Masterclass on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. 268 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: You know, being an independent mortgage BROKERAM the big thing 269 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: that scares people off is big numbers, percentages, fifteen thirty 270 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: years mortgages would ever own it. Let's walk through the 271 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: process of how you handle clients LaTrece when they come 272 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: to you, the educational process. How does your business model 273 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 2: for you work and how does it benefit the customers 274 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: that come to you. 275 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 4: Well, the first thing that I ask each person when 276 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 4: they called is if they've purchased a home before and 277 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 4: how soon do they need to buy. 278 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: A home. And then I'll ask like key points like 279 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: how long they've. 280 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 4: Been on their job, what their credit score is like, 281 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: and what you know, do they have any money for 282 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: down payment, you know, anything in savings And I just 283 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 4: kind of like gauge off of what they tell me 284 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 4: and just kind of like take it from there. But 285 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 4: I do when I do offer the different type of 286 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 4: loan products, I do explain like the difference between the 287 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 4: you know, between each kind because you know, you you 288 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 4: have fah A v A conventional and U S d 289 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 4: A and and each one caters to a particular you 290 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 4: know customer, you know, whereas you I have like f 291 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: ah A you know, that's that's that's really more for 292 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 4: like the customer who may need a lower down payment 293 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 4: but also may have like a lower credit score than 294 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 4: than the average, or have like a lot of open 295 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: debt because that particular program allows for a higher dt 296 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 4: I versus someone who could go conventional who may have 297 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 4: like a higher credit score, but their down payment will 298 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 4: start like around three percent and go up to like 299 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 4: about five percent. 300 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 3: And so I guess to answer your. 301 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: Question, is score it permits their interest rate. 302 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 4: It is a very it's a very key component, you know, 303 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 4: because we do have programs that will go as low 304 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: as five five hundred credit score, but a course quite 305 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: naturally those who are like I would say, like around 306 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 4: seven to twenty and above will have your more favorable 307 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 4: you know, interest rates. 308 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk to it, because there's a lot of 309 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: people out there in that five hundred ranges probably listening 310 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: to my show now. But you can still help people. 311 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: Now that's a pretty low score. Now, that's a pretty 312 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: low score out there trying to buy a home. How 313 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: do you help somebody in that five hundred to six 314 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 2: hundred credit score range get in the house, Because right 315 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: now I think that's I think this be nearly impossible. 316 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: But you're saying you can make that happen. 317 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 4: Yes, The main thing with that particular group is that 318 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 4: they're going to have to have a higher down payment. 319 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 4: They're going to be the ones who's going to need 320 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: that ten to twenty percent down in most cases, because 321 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: those programs are not going to allow down payment assistance, 322 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 4: and the interest rate is going to raise the payment, 323 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 4: which is going to make the DTI heart to fit. 324 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 4: So that particular group of people is going to really 325 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 4: need that big down payment in order for that to work. 326 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: Okay, cool. 327 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: So that means that again, do you work with individuals 328 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: latrees over a six month period or do you coach 329 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 2: them along? 330 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: Somebody comes to. 331 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 2: You, say in January and they said, look this is 332 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: where I stand them at five hundred, and you said, well, 333 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: come back to me, do your homework. You get your 334 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 2: credits trade by making consistent monthly payment. Let's see we 335 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: can get that credit score up. Because right now, if 336 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: you roll into a plan right now, your interest rate 337 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: is going to be higher and your down. 338 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: Payment is going to be higher. Do you work with 339 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: individuals like that. 340 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: Latre, Yes, I do. 341 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 4: I do offer the opportunity to consult while they get 342 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 4: ready and so forth, and I do offer suggestions and 343 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 4: so forth. Out to be very careful about, you know, 344 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 4: credit counseling per se. But I do offer suggestions, and 345 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 4: you know, go over there file and just give them 346 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: what's called a what if scenario, and it is it 347 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 4: is provided by the credit bureau, and not not the 348 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: credit bureau, but but the credit reporting agencies that I use. 349 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 4: They have a report called what if scenario and I 350 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 4: go in and I'll put you know, like say that 351 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 4: they paid these particular credit cards down or what have you, 352 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 4: this is what it could possibly look like if they 353 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 4: did this and so forth. And I would give that 354 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 4: to them, and you know, we'll work over, you know, 355 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 4: their plan over those months and so forth, and I 356 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 4: will say about sixty percent of the people actually follow through, 357 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 4: and really, do you know come back and say, okay, listen, it's. 358 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: All about follow through. 359 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: It's all about your dream, all about whether you want 360 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 2: to make it happen. Yes, And that's really what we're 361 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: talking about right now. Yes, making up, putting it, putting 362 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 2: forth one hundred percent. Now in this world as being 363 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: an independent mortgage broker, frustrates you about it? And what 364 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: benefits do you feel you bring to the table? 365 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 4: Okay, I will say what frustrates me is, you know, 366 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 4: basically what we just talk about just now is the 367 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: customer that does not follow through or the customer that 368 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 4: is not honest and forthcoming. 369 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: Do you ever get mad in the little tree? 370 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 2: Do you ever get mad if some of your customers 371 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: come on that this is money making conversations? 372 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: Okay, somebody wasted your time for three or four months. 373 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 4: Now. 374 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: Yes, Basically, the reason she's an independent because a lot 375 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: of traditional outlets won't even look at you, They won't. 376 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: Even walk in the front door. 377 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 2: She is giving you an opportunity because early in our 378 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: conversation she spoke about she sets up relationships. She's kind 379 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 2: of like, it's a lot of people out there, like 380 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 2: independent insurance people. Well, you can come there and they 381 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: can do insurance with anybody out there. 382 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: And that's what you're saying that you can do as 383 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: an independent. 384 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: You not limited to one particular financial out correct. 385 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: Yes. 386 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: And now with that being said, do you have a 387 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: place you'll go to outlet? You don't have to say 388 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: the name, and why is that outlet that you go 389 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: to you feel works for you the most in your 390 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: independent platform and the type of customers that you bring 391 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: to the table. 392 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 4: I'll be more than happy to say that my outlet 393 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 4: would be you. Not at Wholesale Mortgage u w M. 394 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 4: They are the number one wholesale lender in the you know, 395 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 4: in the States, and they have a very. 396 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: Quick turnaround time. 397 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 4: My executive there is top notche The process is just 398 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 4: it's just it's impeccable, you know, every time. 399 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: And what. 400 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 4: The customer that that I would take there is actually 401 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 4: well I can't say the majority of them, but I 402 00:21:55,720 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 4: would just say the customers that they cater to you 403 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 4: are more of like, you know, your well your experienced 404 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 4: buyers is where's your first time buyers. But a particular 405 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 4: product that I like that they have there is there 406 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 4: one time construction loan, Like say you want to buy 407 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 4: land and build a house at the same time. Well, 408 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 4: you know, traditionally you would have to finance both separately, 409 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 4: but they will do the loan all in one, you know, 410 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 4: And that's what That's one of the main things that 411 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 4: I really like about them. 412 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: And so just as a process and the loan products 413 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 3: that they offer. 414 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: Cool. 415 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: As we close out the interview, I want to talk 416 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: about the benefits of utilizing f h A two thousand 417 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 2: and three is it two thousand and three K program 418 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 2: two or three. 419 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: K that is that is a home innovation yes, and 420 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 4: what people don't know is you can buy a fixer 421 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 4: upper at the you know, and and finance the renovations 422 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 4: as well as as the home within the the within 423 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 4: that that one transaction, and that's that's where the f 424 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 4: h A two or three K comes into play. 425 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: And it just it could be something as. 426 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 4: Low as as you know, replacing windows all the way 427 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 4: up to remediating mold. It just depends on what the 428 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 4: needs are for it, you know, for your project and 429 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 4: so forth. 430 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 3: And so. 431 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: That particular problem when you stay that when you stay 432 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: in the f h A and f stands for what. 433 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: Federal Housing. 434 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 4: That's I'm sorry, Federal Housing Association and that that's that's 435 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 4: basically the the the government agency that monitors those particular 436 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 4: types of loans and there and that's it's it's basically 437 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 4: there to protect the lenders against the the you know, 438 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: in case the bar defaults. 439 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: On the loan. 440 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: Okay, cool, okay cool. 441 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 2: And this particular program you telling me, a lot of 442 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 2: people are not aware of it. And I always get 443 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: mad when I hear that, and I said, mad, mad, 444 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: but I guess frustrated mad because there's so many programs 445 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: out there that are to benefit the buyer. But nobody 446 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: knows because guess what, they're not promoted. So how does 447 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: one find out by programs like this that can benefit 448 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: them that somehow don't make it trickle down to the 449 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 2: people that need them. 450 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 4: Well, I mean you would have to consult a mortgage broker, 451 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 4: you know, because it's not you know, just everyday knowledge 452 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 4: that is out there. 453 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 3: Now. Most people know about. 454 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 4: FACH loans, but they're not as well aware of the 455 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 4: of the FAHA two or three K program that is there. 456 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 4: A lot of times people think that they have to 457 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 4: buy the house first and then finance the renovations and 458 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 4: so forth. 459 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 3: But if this particular product, you can do both at 460 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 3: the same time. 461 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: Wow, I knew nothing about it. 462 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: Again, Please give us a contact number, and if you 463 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: have a website, please get a website number so we 464 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: can reach out to you. Because being an independent broker, 465 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 2: first of all, fearlessness. You seem to be a person. 466 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 2: If someone wanted to do this for a living, if 467 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: somebody wanted to step out on faith or just go 468 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: for a leap, what steps would you tell people to 469 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: make sure that you did that you will not do 470 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: that would help them be successful as independent as an 471 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 2: independent mortgage. 472 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 3: Broke things I would do. 473 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: You would not do because you made the mistakes to 474 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: resond that was I can tell you right now. There 475 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 2: were some things I did when I started my company 476 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 2: and I hired people who were not qualified for the job. 477 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 2: They were family, they were old friends, and I paid 478 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: them checks. They were overpaid because I knew they needed to, 479 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: you know, paid a certain amount of expenses for their family. 480 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: I didn't. I just had the bad business model. 481 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 2: Yes, and I would never do that again and so 482 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: and it was a hard decision because it eventually it 483 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: led to me laying these same people off that I 484 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: was trying to support. 485 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: So those are bad business decision. 486 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 2: Now you became an independent mortgage broker, what did you 487 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 2: do or would recommend so people would make the same 488 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 2: mistakes that you did, because we all make mistakes when 489 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 2: we start businesses. 490 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: I would say that I would have had more capital. 491 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 4: Before deciding to not move forward with with with other employment. 492 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 4: And that's because what I had to do was, since 493 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 4: I did not have as much capital, I had to 494 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 4: kind of like do a lot of side gigs and 495 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 4: so forth that took me away from my business and 496 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 4: so forth, and so and then also to have a 497 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 4: stronger pipeline. You know, even though I had been had 498 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 4: been originating loans for as long as I had been, 499 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 4: I don't feel like I had a full enough pipeline 500 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 4: to really take off. So not having a capital and 501 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 4: not having a full pipeline, that that kind of stagnated me. 502 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 4: And it made a little bit more difficult to really 503 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 4: you know, get going and so. 504 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: Forth and so. And then also the time frame. 505 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 4: It was during a time when interest rates were just 506 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 4: out of control, and it made it really hard to 507 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 4: get people, you know, approved and so forth. And so 508 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 4: I would say to definitely look at the economic you 509 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 4: know market at that particular time, make sure you have 510 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 4: that strong, solid pipeline, and then have that capital so 511 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 4: that you can focus more on the business versus you know, 512 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 4: just just. 513 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: Going for it. 514 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: Cool. 515 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 2: Let's get that number out there one more time. The 516 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 2: litree's price. 517 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: Okay is three four six four seven six nine five 518 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 4: five nine. 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