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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it's the summer of strikes, isn't it. The actors,

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Speaker 2: the writers, the hotel workers and today John's favorite, the

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Speaker 2: City of La workers. Nobody can misted up my trash today.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, my trash.

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Speaker 3: This was your trash day. Tuesday's my trash day.

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Speaker 4: Oh unlucky you. Yeah, what are you gonna do with it?

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Speaker 4: You're gonna take it to yourself.

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Speaker 1: I dumped it all out in the street as a

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Speaker 1: citizen protest.

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Speaker 2: The airport got messed up because there's pickets there and

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Speaker 2: great job actions.

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Speaker 1: The worst run airport in human history, and now there's pickets.

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Speaker 2: Every article I read, I keep seeing the same damn word,

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Speaker 2: and I've I've seen this word before.

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Speaker 4: We want respect, Okay, I respect you. Now go back

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Speaker 4: to work, Get back to work.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring on Alex Stone, ABC News for KFI with more.

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Speaker 4: And why don't you go on strike, Alex, Well, we're

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Speaker 4: all sag after, aren't we. We're we're technically on strike

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Speaker 4: right now, but we're on a no strike clause.

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Speaker 3: So we're here.

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Speaker 4: And that trash that you threw out there, good luck

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Speaker 4: tomorrow when they drive by it and look at it

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Speaker 4: and keep that they want.

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Speaker 3: They're not going to make it up by doing double tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Well, no they are. They're they're going to go and

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Speaker 4: do it tomorrow, but not at John's house. If it's

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Speaker 4: all over the ground, they're not going to get out

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Speaker 4: and pick that up. So, yeah, it's it's loud on

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Speaker 4: the picket lines. You're speaking of la accellently bring you there.

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Speaker 4: Sounds like this.

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Speaker 3: They're making it hard.

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Speaker 4: It's uh, it's the sanitation workers, the engineers, parking enforcement,

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Speaker 4: so you want to, you know, park in that two

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Speaker 4: hour zone with the confusing signs up and down the pole.

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Speaker 4: Today he's the day to do it, traffic enforcement, eleven

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Speaker 4: thousand of the workers.

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Speaker 3: But this is only one day.

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Speaker 4: So it is symbolic that we're not talking about like

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Speaker 4: the hotel workers and sag after a WGA where this

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Speaker 4: could drag on. This goes back to a year ago

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Speaker 4: when the union SEIU and the city ratified a one

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Speaker 4: year agreement November of last year. The idea was that

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Speaker 4: there were a bunch of issues they didn't get to

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Speaker 4: that they would then talk about over the year. The

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Speaker 4: union claims that the city has refused to sit down

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Speaker 4: and talk about a lot of those and that they

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Speaker 4: want to talk about them. They're not even getting to

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Speaker 4: pay yet in their bargaining. They haven't gotten to discuss that.

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Speaker 4: They say they want to deal with a lot of

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Speaker 4: these other issues. So now today they have walked off

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Speaker 4: the job. Raymond may is with s CiU saying, oh wait, no,

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Speaker 4: that's downtown. That's what it sounds like there. This is

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Speaker 4: it's almost this is Raymond Mason.

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Speaker 5: Well, today is to tell the city that we want

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Speaker 5: to be respected when we go to the barney there.

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Speaker 6: It is.

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Speaker 5: We were recently out of the barney table put across

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Speaker 5: two hundred proposals to deal with the recruitment and retention

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Speaker 5: crisis in the city of Los Angeles, and the city did.

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Speaker 3: Not bargain in good faith.

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Speaker 5: And what I mean by that is they didn't even

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Speaker 4: So the city says it is bargaining in good faith.

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Speaker 4: One of the issues is given you idea that the

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Speaker 4: two Underdew was talking about there is whether sanitation workers

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Speaker 4: can get an allowance to buy boots. And they say

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Speaker 4: that the city won't talk about that, they'ven't gotten there,

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Speaker 4: that they're striking over a pair of boots. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's one of the many issues out there. The one though,

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Speaker 4: when you heard him reference it, that comes up over

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Speaker 4: excessive overtime. Now we know that police and firefighters who

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Speaker 3: This is not their union.

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Speaker 4: And then police and firefighters are on the job. But

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Speaker 4: just the crazy amount of overtime that some of the

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Speaker 4: workers say that they're having to fill because they're told

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Speaker 4: by their boss you got to be here. Yes, they

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Speaker 4: get paid for it, but they say that that doesn't

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Speaker 4: always make up for everything else. This is deon Cornelius

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Speaker 7: They're overworking, mean overworking to others and it's affecting our

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Speaker 7: family lives. Okay, now they think because they'll give you

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Speaker 7: overtime that that's oh, we're happy with overtime.

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Speaker 3: No hire more people kill the position.

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Speaker 7: There's silver positions and all classifications sanitation, window cleaning, bus operations, janitorial.

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Speaker 3: That are not built.

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Speaker 4: So they say they're doing this today ahead of bargaining

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Speaker 4: that's planned for next week. Early next week. They want

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Speaker 4: to make a statement. There are some who are being

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Speaker 4: given what they call line passes. If they work in

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Speaker 4: public safety, not police and fire, they're on the job,

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Speaker 4: but if they work in other roles in public safety

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Speaker 4: at LAX, allowing them to cross sadline to report for

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Speaker 4: duty today. But so the city says it isn't going

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Speaker 4: to negotiate. The mayor, who's kind of in the middle

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Speaker 4: because she falls in line with the unions and the workers,

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Speaker 4: but also represents the city and negotiating, she says that

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Speaker 4: they are going to negotiate that the city is not

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Speaker 4: shut down today. But you go downtown, you go to LAX,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot going on. So when's my trash going

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Speaker 4: to be picked tomorrow? But not if you throw it

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Speaker 4: all over the street again, they're going to drive right

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Speaker 4: by you. I see with a certain finger and keep driving.

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Speaker 3: I have to go clean.

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Speaker 2: It's responding officially on the city side of this is

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Speaker 2: the city council who's actually saying, wow, you know, we're

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Speaker 2: doing our best to negotiate.

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Speaker 4: Is anywhere the mayor is doing a lot of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: The mayor is saying that they are working on it.

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Speaker 4: The workers, you know, they don't want to blame the

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Speaker 4: mayor because she falls in line and on many of

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Speaker 4: these issues with them, so they're saying, no, no, the

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Speaker 4: mayor is great. These are city administrators, the people doing

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Speaker 4: the books that that they will not negotiate. The mayor says,

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Speaker 4: you know, look, I represent everybody, and that they will.

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Speaker 4: But right now the two sides again this you know

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Speaker 4: so often, whether it be hotel workers or the writers

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Speaker 3: Nobody wants to get paid more. They're not even at

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Speaker 4: This is about things like filling the pandemic, jobs like

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Speaker 4: they get in their paycheck.

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Speaker 3: All right, Alex, thank you very much for that report.

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Speaker 3: You got it. Thanks guys, all right, Alex.

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Speaker 2: Stone, ABC News for KFI on the job Action taken

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Speaker 2: by a bunch.

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Speaker 3: Of city workers. It looks like it's a.

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Speaker 2: Service Employees International union seven to one representing more than

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Speaker 2: seven thousand city workers supposedly this one day walkout. Traffic officers, gardeners, mechanics, custodians, lifeguards,

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Speaker 2: all of the city pools are closed, engineers, and a

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Speaker 2: bunch of other government jobs involved in this.

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Speaker 1: Outside of the outside of the trash not getting picked up,

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Speaker 1: it's not anything most people would notice.

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Speaker 4: Notice no the police and fight because still responding. They

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Speaker 4: take about thirty two holidays a year anyway, so this

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Speaker 4: is just another one.

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Speaker 2: The vagrants don't go on strike like for one day.

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Speaker 2: They go back and have jobs and stop taking drugs.

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Speaker 2: What about vagrants, that's right? Yeah, how about like.

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Speaker 3: A no meth Monday for.

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Speaker 2: One I wonder what the effect that would be if

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Speaker 2: nobody took drugs for one day and all of the city.

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Speaker 3: Toss your trank Tuesday. There you go, toss your trank Tuesday.

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Speaker 3: We can continue no weed Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: So they I heard there was the airport was kind

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Speaker 2: of ugly because they still have a big picket line there.

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Speaker 2: Four am there out there with a thousand people's right

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Speaker 2: and that just slows down everything, score up other people's lives.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: People just want to do their ordinary travel and then

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Speaker 1: these bozos getting away.

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Speaker 3: But you know what happens, they just get angrier with you.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 3: You know what the thing is a lot of people

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Speaker 3: work in government. I realize now.

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Speaker 1: It took me a long time that the reason the

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Speaker 1: government hires a lot of these people is because they're

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Speaker 1: unemployable everywhere else. And this kind of keeps society peace right,

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Speaker 1: rather than have them all sitting home and sending them

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Speaker 1: welfare checks, right, and then you know they're just going

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Speaker 1: to spend the checks on booze and drugs. It's like,

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Speaker 1: let's employ the people. Let's get something to do eight

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Speaker 1: hours a day. So they've been in a real capitalist world.

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Speaker 2: All the work it's supposed to be done by government

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Speaker 2: be just contracted out. But you're saying instead the city

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Speaker 2: actually creates these jobs to.

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Speaker 4: Get these people. A lot of people do, not all

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Speaker 4: of them, A lot of them. Yeah, because these these

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Speaker 1: Whenever I have to deal with government and I talked

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Speaker 1: to people, you know, especially on the phone, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you couldn't work anywhere now I know why while you're

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Speaker 1: working for the city lost I'll give you an example

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Speaker 1: of the sanitation thing. The timing on this was incredible.

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Speaker 1: So we've had the same trash cans for fifteen years,

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Speaker 1: right since we moved to this house, and two of

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Speaker 1: them have gotten beat up, right, and they're getting busted.

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Speaker 1: So Saturday I called to get two new ones delivered,

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Speaker 1: but you have to leave your old ones on the curb.

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Speaker 1: And they said, okay, well Wednesday, Well, of course I

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Speaker 1: picked the only week that they're having a annotation strike

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Speaker 1: in the fifteen years. You might get him tomorrow, the

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Speaker 1: only Well, no, I'm not, because they the old ones

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Speaker 1: have to be empty, and the old ones are filmed.

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Speaker 4: They're filled from the trash that didn't get picked up right,

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Speaker 4: they're torn up and dented and busted. They got to

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Speaker 4: be replaced. So I called yesterday and I said, I go, well,

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Speaker 4: since there's supposed to be a strike tomorrow, then then Wednesday,

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Speaker 4: those cans are going to be full, and that's the

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Speaker 4: day I'm supposed to get him replaced.

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Speaker 3: What's going to happen?

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Speaker 1: And the woman on the phone had no idea that

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Speaker 1: was going to be a strike and had no idea

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Speaker 1: what was going to happen.

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Speaker 4: And she said, well, just leave him out tomorrow and

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Speaker 4: let let's see. Let's see what I see, what happens. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's not a good answer. That's the way to get

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Speaker 4: rid of you. But yeah, right, but I got somebody.

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Speaker 4: I'll call back and it will be me the answers.

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Speaker 4: So that's the way to get rid of them. So

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Speaker 4: I called somebody today and I get one of these things,

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Speaker 4: and I could tell, like, you know, the the phone

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Speaker 4: rang in her kitchen, right, her cell phone rang. She's home,

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Speaker 4: you know, I hear the echo. She's not in an

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Speaker 1: Although she had an answer, at least she might have

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Speaker 1: a shot in the private sector because she said, well,

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Speaker 1: which means the pick up day will be Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that'll be thursday. They're going to give your new cans.

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Speaker 2: Oh well, we'll check back and see if that happens.

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Speaker 2: It's own way of raiding city services. My exciting life.

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Speaker 2: And if you heard, it's not about money. They have

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Speaker 2: the best SETI gar SETI welcome to the real world.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that can't fill positions still

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Speaker 2: want to become a TikTok stars, right or you.

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Speaker 1: Know, if they shut down and the rest of them,

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Speaker 2: I am a social media influencer, right, that's my title.

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Speaker 2: All right, more coming up, Johnny n KFI AM six

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Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 6: AM six forty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And you know what's not on strike The Moistline, John.

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Speaker 2: The Moistline is always there to take your calls. You

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Speaker 3: Toll free.

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Speaker 2: The moistline is one eight seven seven moist eighty six

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Speaker 2: There's actually a chance of rain in some parts of

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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to talk now about this is how

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Speaker 2: he's described. Defendant is highly educated, richly supported, and politically connected.

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Speaker 2: He was uniquely positioned to serve his constituents. Instead he

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Speaker 2: served himself. Who are we talking about, good old Mrt.

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Speaker 2: Mark Ridley Thomas, who faces his sentencing for corruption the

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Speaker 2: convictions that were carried out a couple months ago. Later

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Speaker 2: on this month and yesterday, prosecutors asked a federal judge

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Speaker 3: Is their recommendation not long enough?

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Speaker 2: The defense attorneys first asked for twenty one to twenty

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Speaker 3: You know, it was only about two years.

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Speaker 2: Then they went down and said no, how about no

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Speaker 2: prison time, cubation with home confinement, community service, and a

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Speaker 3: Please.

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Speaker 1: Did they show that to Ridley Thomas? And he goes, well,

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Speaker 1: what do you mean twenty seven months? Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying anything. I'm asking for twenty seven months. I'm paying

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Speaker 4: Now, don't do that, right, He probably said, what I mean,

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Speaker 4: if you if you give the judge that offer, he'd

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Speaker 4: probably you know, he'll take it and might give you

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Speaker 4: more time than that.

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Speaker 2: But you got to start with zero, no prison time.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised that their original defense attorneys, their original sentencing

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Speaker 2: papers had that one to twenty seven months in it.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know, then they're asking a downward variance.

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Speaker 3: With no time. Downward variants. What a stupid turn. You know.

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Speaker 1: I hold long, long term grudges, and I've held one

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Speaker 1: against Ridley Thomas ever since he sent those fake protesters

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Speaker 1: to us shouting hey, hey ho ho, John and Kenn

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Speaker 3: And it's a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: So what I'd like to do is I'd like to

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Speaker 1: day he sensed and heh ho ho, Ridley Thomas has

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Speaker 1: got to go to president.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's what I want them to do. They could

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Speaker 4: just chant lock him up. That's lock him up. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you got the Trump chant going. That's right and just

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Speaker 4: shy of fact.

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Speaker 2: You could just go yourself and play it over a

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Speaker 2: speaker from the Trump rallies flop him out.

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Speaker 1: I was sitting fantasizing about standing out there with a

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Speaker 4: I love the way his attorneys referred to him as

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Speaker 4: doctor Ridley Thomas, doctor doctor of what, doctor of corruption,

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Speaker 4: doctor of bribery.

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Speaker 3: There is no need.

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Speaker 2: To incarcerate doctor Ridley Thomas to protect the community.

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Speaker 3: It's like doctor Joe Bias.

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Speaker 2: The shame of his convictions is punishment and provides ample

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Speaker 4: What's his shame? What's his doctor? It in h are urologist,

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Speaker 4: a proctologist.

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Speaker 2: The sentence is coming on August twenty first, so it's

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Speaker 2: not that far away a couple of weeks. It's August

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Speaker 3: I won't be here. Oh that's right, you were not

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Speaker 3: going to be here. Can't you come back just for this?

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Speaker 3: For one? I would?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, really I want to see him.

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Speaker 2: I want to see weeks from yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I want to see him in an orange jumpsuit, led

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Speaker 1: away in handcuffs. You know, in fact, once he's in prison,

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Speaker 3: Of him and put hearing prison clothes, put.

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Speaker 1: It on our website for a month. Yeah, wearing prison clothes.

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Speaker 2: Well, the judge is somebody named Dale Fisher who gave

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Speaker 2: the of course, the co conspirator in this case was

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Speaker 2: that woman Marilyn Flynn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she got three.

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Speaker 2: Years probation, but he said he seriously considered imprisonment for her.

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Speaker 2: So of course, Ridley Thomas is even higher on the

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Speaker 2: food chain here. He's the politician that went corrupt with

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Speaker 2: got to give him some prison time. If he doesn't, there.

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Speaker 3: Will be outrage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean the other uh, the other council

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Speaker 1: people are going to prison, right, Mitch.

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Speaker 2: Englander, did they did? We are is going to go, right,

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Speaker 2: they are going to go. There was another guy too,

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Speaker 2: wasn't there. Well, we don't know about the current price

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Speaker 2: is still pending. Oh right, Yeah, that's hard to keep.

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Speaker 2: They booted that to this month. They booted the decision

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Speaker 2: or suspend him. Remember that, right, it's supposed to happen

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Speaker 2: this month. They're supposed to revisit it. But his case

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Speaker 2: hasn't moved far enough along yet.

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Speaker 3: Nothing but criminals.

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Speaker 1: People are compulsively electing and re electing criminals.

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Speaker 3: And then you look around and go.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's so disgusting in this city.

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Speaker 3: Gee, I wonder.

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Speaker 2: The defense submitted one hundred and thirty or so letters

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Speaker 2: a letters that's really weak. Imagine you get no letter

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Speaker 2: from your from your wife. Last time we talked about,

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Speaker 3: Well because gats for a new trial.

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Speaker 1: He said he did it. I know he actually he

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Speaker 1: did it. They it was clear there's no debate here,

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Speaker 1: no appeal. Well, we'll have to celebrate when we come

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Speaker 1: back days after he is sentenced. All right, we got

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Speaker 6: AM sixty.

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Speaker 2: Well, the word is consequences, I'll repeat it. Consequences, consequences, consequences.

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Speaker 2: Interesting that we're beginning to see stories coming out of

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's another word I hate. Remember yesterday we decided

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Speaker 3: we have to throw out the word homeless. That's right.

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Speaker 3: You can call them drug addicts, you can call them

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Speaker 3: mental patients, you can call them vagrants, but homeless again,

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Speaker 3: is this idea that they were just like everybody else,

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Speaker 2: The other the new word I want to get rid

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Speaker 2: of because it's in the headline here. Camping, Yes, that

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Speaker 2: word has to go, and describing what they do when

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Speaker 2: they take over public spaces.

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Speaker 3: It is not camping.

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Speaker 2: Campingping is when you take your family into the woods

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Speaker 2: and you usually get a permit and there's an area

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Speaker 1: Or some way you can leave your waist. This is

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Speaker 1: hub Scouts and Girl Scouts to camping. Yes, homeless people

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Speaker 1: are laying in the streets.

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Speaker 3: They are right, they are vagrants loiterers.

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Speaker 2: The story in the San Diego Union Tribune is headline

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Speaker 2: change Cities and to rehab. San Diego's new homeless camping

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Speaker 2: band leaves many facing tough decisions. This went into effect

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Speaker 2: There are certain public places in San Diego you can

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Speaker 4: Vagrant okay, apartments. I will tell you San Diego is

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Speaker 4: shockingly disgusting, and I think that's why it came to this.

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Speaker 1: We went to Petco Park a few weeks ago to

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, we got off the freeway. I guess

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Speaker 3: I was unbelievable. Went out for blocks and blocks. It's

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Speaker 3: This is not what San Diego's about.

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Speaker 2: I doubt if you went back there you'd see a

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Speaker 2: But this story says it starts with a woman named

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Speaker 3: Well, it may have been the last straw.

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Speaker 2: The thirty two year old would walk downtown and it

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Speaker 2: So on Wednesday morning, with another night awake, she started

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Speaker 2: So you're not going to get rid of all the vagrants,

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Speaker 2: They're coming to cheula Vista from Santiegood.

443
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Speaker 1: Well, on cheula Vista, they have to tell them to

444
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 1: move on. You do every entry right, every.

445
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 3: Make it difficult everywhere they go.

446
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 1: Everybody does this in every city until they get out

447
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 1: in the desert somewhere, and there are cities.

448
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 2: They make a decision to get themselves clean, or they

449
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,199
Speaker 2: spend their time in a shelter. Of course, a problem

450
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 2: with that, and we talked about you put them in

451
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 2: a shelter, but during the day they're wandering around.

452
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,280
Speaker 3: We're still taking a crap on a street court.

453
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 1: When when when all the idiots in government understand that

454
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,479
Speaker 1: these people have destroyed their brains and they're not going

455
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Speaker 1: to be functioning. Ever, You're not going to cure them.

456
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 1: You're not going to rehab them. You simply have to

457
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: dispose of them in some way.

458
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you do, you do. You have to, You

459
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 3: have to.

460
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 4: You have to cart them up and take them out

461
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 4: outside the city limits. You're not going to fix their brains.

462
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 4: They willfully, and they chose to damage their brains. That's

463
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 4: the consequence. The consequence now is they can't think anymore.

464
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 4: They don't have the will to survive anymore, and you're

465
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 4: not going to fix it, and they don't get to

466
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 4: lay in the street, uh and and destroy the quality

467
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Speaker 4: of life for everybody else.

468
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Speaker 2: And of course eventually you get to the housing side

469
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Speaker 2: of this. Oh, of course we believe it's a housing problem.

470
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Speaker 2: But the San Diegego Plenty Commission just rejected the mayor

471
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Speaker 2: glorious idea that would have allowed single family homes to

472
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Speaker 2: be replaced with these three story apartment buildings. They said

473
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 2: to that, again, that's the fight over keeping the sanity

474
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: of your single family that neighborhood.

475
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 4: A yesterday's story about Midvale Avenue and Pico Boulevard h

476
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 4: at the right on the west side there in West

477
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 4: Los Angeles to take a million dollar home neighborhood and

478
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 4: start inserting these these homeless shelters, and you can't let

479
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Speaker 4: this happen.

480
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Speaker 1: That's where they want to go. They want to send

481
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,160
Speaker 1: these homeless people and store them in bulk in these

482
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: warehouses in your residential neighborhood. They don't know what else

483
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Speaker 1: to do because.

484
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 3: Because they are your neighbors. Yeah, and they'll tell you, yes,

485
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 3: they're your neighbors.

486
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 2: Now up in San Francisco related to this sort of

487
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 2: because again I talk about consequences. Remember I had Sam

488
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 2: Canonis on the show recently, and Sam, of course somebody

489
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 2: who really ought to read. He has a book called

490
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 2: The Least of Us and he really has studied the

491
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 2: fentanyl and meth problem and homelessness. As we've quoted many

492
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 2: times on the show, you lose the survival instinct when

493
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 2: get hooked on these drugs. So therefore you don't have

494
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: any you know, the wits about you to try to

495
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 2: save yourself. So up in San Francisco where they have

496
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 2: something called wellness centers, good lord.

497
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: And again this is the idea of harm reduction.

498
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna stand by with narcan and as you decide

499
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 2: that you might want to get well again, here's a

500
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Speaker 2: wellness center well supervisor up there.

501
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: One of the supervisors up there. His name is Matt Dorsey.

502
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 3: They think he might run for mayor.

503
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Speaker 2: He wants to move the funding away from the wellness

504
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 2: hubs and into the jail rehab. And this is what

505
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 2: Sam Canonas said last time he was on the show.

506
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: You've got to have some He doesn't mind harm reduction,

507
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: but he said, you've got to have some sort of

508
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 2: enforcement or consequences.

509
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 3: So if you throw them.

510
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 2: Into jail, they're cut off from their drugs. And I

511
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 2: guess that's what Dorsy saying. All right, if they're cut

512
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: off from their drugs, one thing they can do is

513
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Speaker 2: turn to some method of rehab. Why don't we put

514
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,239
Speaker 2: more money into that rather than just setting up a

515
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: wellness center hub and hope they come in.

516
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Speaker 1: Right and give him up by the way, yeah, give

517
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: him meals and give him narkhn it's.

518
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Speaker 2: Like, and say things like, maybe someday you should consider

519
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: giving up the drugs.

520
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 3: We can talk about that, right whenever you're ready.

521
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: Oh, that crap's got to end. It's a failure. It's

522
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: doesn't It already sounds stupid, doesn't it? Just what you

523
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: said out loud?

524
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Speaker 3: Oh you know we can help you, No, you can.

525
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: I wish I could record outreach people what they actually

526
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 2: say to these drug addicts on the street. Somehow, I

527
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 2: think it's something like that, Hey, how are you today?

528
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're feeling okay? Can we get you anything to drink?

529
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: Would you like a needle? And by the way, have

530
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 3: you ever thought about then maybe a different life? Yeah?

531
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Speaker 4: No, I've He's dropped on a couple of conversations. Oh

532
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 4: you have well because these these these outreach workers are

533
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 4: all over Santa Monica Beach, right, because every day there

534
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 4: are guys who pitch tents and you know, there's little

535
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: children trying to play on the beach. So people freak

536
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 4: out and they send in the outreach people. And I've

537
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 4: heard these conversations. It's like, h so, what are you

538
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 4: doing today?

539
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 3: Huh? Where you're going? How you feeling? Anything I can do?

540
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 3: Oh it's all soft. Oh yeah, like anything I can

541
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 3: do for you? I mean, do you need something as

542
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: a way?

543
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 2: You know, I'm a harm reduction officer? Should you ode?

544
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: I'm here to save you, but I will never interfer

545
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: your drug usage. I'm walking You must come to that

546
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 2: decision yourself. And I'm biting my tongue because i want to.

547
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: I want to interject and say, you realize you're talking

548
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 2: to a drug addict who's destroyed his brain and he

549
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 2: doesn't know where he is or who he is, and

550
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 2: you're offering him a blanket.

551
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Speaker 3: I mean, are you are you nuts to? Who's nut? Here?

552
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: The vagrant?

553
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 5: Here?

554
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 4: Are you the outreach worker? I did you you remember

555
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 4: in high school.

556
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Speaker 1: Did you ever, like maybe in biology class physiology clash

557
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: and they let you like a carve up a cat

558
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Speaker 1: or something.

559
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was out that day.

560
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 4: Actually, I forget what they they worked on, but that's

561
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 4: my favorite day, was it not? It just happened to me.

562
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 4: I want to see or something. I want to see

563
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 4: what was going on inside the animals. And but I

564
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 4: heard I heard something. She was a ghast some editorial comment.

565
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, just a little Okay, I hated I hated science.

566
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 8: I remember I I just dreaded going in when we

567
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 8: had to Ugh, did you carve the cat? Not a

568
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 8: cat but a frog? We had a dissect a frog.

569
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think was frog carving up cats was cooler.

570
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: But but if you have ever seen like like what

571
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: human brain is at a museum, right, it's a it's

572
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: a fragile little blob. Can imagine if you flood it

573
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: with all kinds of poisons what happens to that fragile

574
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 1: little blob of cells You've got You've got like like

575
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: billions of neurons in your brain and all these millions

576
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: of complex connections between the neurons, and it's it's really uh,

577
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 1: it can be destroyed very quickly. And so when you

578
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 1: flood your brain with all these poisonous drugs, it destroys

579
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: the material inside and and you walk around and that's

580
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: why their eyes are glazed over and their mouth is

581
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: open and they can't communicate anymore because is inside it's

582
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 1: all mush.

583
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: And that's why if you say just let them be

584
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 2: and they'll come around, they're not coming around you.

585
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: No, you can't.

586
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 4: Everybody pretends like, oh god, that's why we have a

587
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 4: thousand dead bodies of more a year. Yeah, it's like

588
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 4: when you drink too much, eventually your liver, you know,

589
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 4: decomposes inside of you. You smoke too much, your lungs

590
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: start to malfunction. Same thing with the brain. You know,

591
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 4: too much math and too much fent and all, and yeah,

592
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 4: you've you've destroyed it.

593
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: To understand, Johnny Kat showed KFI AM six forty live

594
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: everywhere iHeartRadio app.

595
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from kf

596
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 6: I AM six forty.

597
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we were just talking about biology class

598
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 2: and the demoramental. Her class was dissecting frogs. You were

599
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: doing cats, yes, yeah, I don't remember. I heard a

600
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: lot of people did frogs.

601
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had a pile of stiff cats, you know,

602
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 4: plastic bags piled up.

603
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 8: Today is International Cat Lover's Day. I think I'm saying

604
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Speaker 8: that right, You're gonna have a lot of angry cat lovers. John,

605
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 8: you're gloating about wanting to dissect cats. I've never heard

606
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 8: of anybody doing that in a science class. It's always

607
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 8: it's always frogs and a cat.

608
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Speaker 3: What.

609
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was the physiology class. It was

610
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 4: probably great. Yeah, exactly, it was another there cadaver cats.

611
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Speaker 3: They don't kill them, I know, but still yuck.

612
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 8: And to get such glee out of.

613
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Speaker 1: We used to we used to drag the cats behind

614
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: us in the hallway and wander into the cafeteria.

615
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me drag the cats. Well, they were in

616
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 3: plastic bags.

617
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 8: To gross people out while they're eating.

618
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: To make the girls scream.

619
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Speaker 5: You know.

620
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Speaker 2: We were Oh what a charmer, you were. Well, looking

621
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: at a story here. Back to the frogs. There's people

622
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: that actually adhere to the belief of something called cambo.

623
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Speaker 2: Yeah I believe, Well, it's a frog secretion.

624
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: You're drinking it.

625
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: No, they go deep into the Amazon forests and they

626
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: go after what's called a giant leaf frog.

627
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 3: Leaf frog.

628
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 2: After they chase the frog, and after climbing the tree

629
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: to capture the frog, they stretch it, bind its limbs,

630
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,239
Speaker 2: and prog the frog, which secretes a defensive toxin in

631
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: response to the stress. Tribe members then collect the toxin

632
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: with small sticks and dry it out, ready to be

633
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: reconstituted with water and applied to burned human skin. It

634
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: can cost as much as fifty to one hundred and

635
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: forty dollars for cambo, but of course if you buy

636
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: it off the internet, you might get the wrong frog.

637
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 3: This is a particular frog h There are practitioners in California.

638
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: If you do.

639
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: Negotiate with them, we'll do a cambo ceremony where they

640
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: will take the liquid from the frog as I mentioned,

641
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: mixed with water, and then apply it to your skin

642
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: in some sort of burning ritual.

643
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: It's supposed to clear up any of your body problems.

644
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: It says here in the story that people have come

645
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: to this practitioner for all sorts of reasons. Depression, addiction,

646
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 2: some people have yeast infections, some have lime disease. My favorite, though,

647
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: is people who came to this practitioner because they wanted

648
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: to get the COVID shot out of their body. Again,

649
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: there's no scientific evidence that cambo helps in any of

650
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: these things. In fact, it says here that it does

651
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: tend to make you vomit and some people have had

652
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: a ruptured esophagus from it.

653
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: Well, it's a poison.

654
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: It is a poison to toxin from the fraud kind

655
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: of burned it into your skin, so I guess it

656
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: gets into your blood stream. Have you got also have psychosis,

657
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: seizures and heart attack?

658
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Speaker 3: You haven't done this, have you? Are you kidding? I

659
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 3: don't know.

660
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 4: You're into like new age. Well, she wouldn't take anything

661
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Speaker 4: from a fraud.

662
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Speaker 8: I was talking to him off the year about Macha

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Speaker 8: ken and he looked at me like I was an alien.

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Speaker 8: Now I do every day. That's that's ground up green

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Speaker 8: tea leaves, and that's supposed to be really good for

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Speaker 8: the body. No toxins. Frog, what is oh? Come, yeah

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Speaker 8: it is?

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Speaker 3: My daughter drinks that something.

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Speaker 8: It's fermented, not cabbage.

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Speaker 3: I see that one in a lot of places.

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Speaker 8: It's very healthy.

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Speaker 3: It's uh, everything's very healthy.

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Speaker 8: It's a fermented drink made with tea, sugar, bacteria and ye.

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Speaker 1: Oh bacteria actually east Yeah, please on the back I'm

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Speaker 1: going to order a kambuco.

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Speaker 8: Extra bactery reduces inflammation, it supports your immune system, and

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Speaker 8: it reduces DNA damage.

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Speaker 3: I'm not disgusting.

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Speaker 2: We should have a cambo ceremony if you get to

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Speaker 2: all the evil and anger and nastiness of John Coba.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that would take a while.

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Speaker 2: It says here they burn five shallow holes into the

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Speaker 2: skin with a smoldering twig. Then they dab the cambo

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Speaker 2: the skin secretion of the frog over the wound.

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Speaker 1: Wh Why are there's so many that's the ritual, so

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Speaker 1: many primitives in our society after all these thousands of years.

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Speaker 3: It is amazing?

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Speaker 2: Isus crowdstor around Because the world is still so uncertain, John,

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Speaker 2: People cling to things that they think could be a

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Speaker 2: miracle God change their lives.

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Speaker 3: This is why we have cults. Yeah, why we have

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Speaker 3: all sorts of people believing in strange things to ingest

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Speaker 3: in their body. All right, we got more coming up.

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