WEBVTT - Chapter 10: Beyond JennaWorld

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone thinks it's just a big orgy, but it's so technical.

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<v Speaker 1>You have all these other people in the room. A

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<v Speaker 1>three minute scene might take three days to film. Linda

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<v Speaker 1>Wong performer.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming from the adult industry. I had a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>doors that wouldn't open for me. I would wait for

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<v Speaker 2>the next one, but I try to go in through

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<v Speaker 2>the side door, you know. Heather Hunter performer.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to General World. Welcome back to General World. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>your host, Molly Lambert. This is episode ten Beyond General World.

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<v Speaker 3>Jenna Jamison feels like her success as a porn star

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<v Speaker 3>is self directed. Sure, it takes a lot to stand

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<v Speaker 3>out in a room of skinny, blonde white women with

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<v Speaker 3>really big breaths, but Jenna also benefits from being a skinny,

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<v Speaker 3>blond white woman in the first place, working in an

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<v Speaker 3>industry controlled primarily by white men pushing eurocentric beauty standards.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyone who doesn't fit into a very specific mold is

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<v Speaker 3>treated as exotic or niche. But in both born and

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<v Speaker 3>mainstream pop culture, there are performers and directors of color

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<v Speaker 3>who want to change things from the ground up and

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<v Speaker 3>create space in their industries for other people who look

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<v Speaker 3>like them.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to be an exhibitionist, to last long in

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<v Speaker 4>this business. I am venessidelio performer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm betraying a It's just a character. My personal life

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<v Speaker 1>is totally separate.

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<v Speaker 3>Even early on in porn history's seventies golden age, there

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<v Speaker 3>are performers who manage to break through porn's racist barriers.

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<v Speaker 3>Linda Wong, the Japanese American actress we mentioned in episode three,

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<v Speaker 3>is born Linda Carol Secchi, a virgo in San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 3>Linda is a high school homecoming queen ballerina and college

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<v Speaker 3>dance major who starts nude modeling and is asked to

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<v Speaker 3>do adult films. She co stars with John C. Holmes

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<v Speaker 3>in The Jade Pussycat, one of Bob Chan's Johnny wadd

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<v Speaker 3>series of movies. She struggles with addiction and makes her

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<v Speaker 3>last film, The Erotic World of Linda Wong in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty five, before dying of an accidental drug overdose in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty seven at a motel in Petaluma. The first

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<v Speaker 3>major crossover star of color is a d's performer named

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<v Speaker 3>Vanessa del Rio who becomes known as the Latin from Manhattan.

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<v Speaker 3>She is born Anna Maria Sanchez. An Aires, the child

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<v Speaker 3>of Cuban and Puerto Rican immigrants from Harlem. Raised as

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<v Speaker 3>a strict Catholic, she starts to rebel after her mom

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<v Speaker 3>takes her to see movies starring Isabelle Sarley, a former

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<v Speaker 3>Miss Argentina who starred in a string of hit sexploitation

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<v Speaker 3>movies like Fuego. Sarle is considered the Latin American equivalent

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<v Speaker 3>of the French sex symbol Brigitte bardow Anna Maria Sanchez

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<v Speaker 3>drops out of school in eighth grade, learns to code,

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<v Speaker 3>and at age eighteen, becomes a computer programmer, then runs

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<v Speaker 3>off with a boyfriend who steals cars to live in

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<v Speaker 3>a series of hot Volkswagen Beetles. After tiring of bug life,

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<v Speaker 3>she starts waitressing, go go dancing and bartending topless. She

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<v Speaker 3>also works as a call girl and street walker. Then,

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen seventy four, or she's offered one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>fifty dollars to act in an adult film called Cherry Hustler.

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<v Speaker 4>I just asked how much does it pay? She said

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<v Speaker 4>one hundred and fifty dollars, and that's exactly what I needed.

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<v Speaker 4>That was my half of the rent. I guess it

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<v Speaker 4>was meant to be.

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<v Speaker 3>She takes her stage name from a friend named Vanessa

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<v Speaker 3>and Dolores del Rio, the Mexican actress who became Hollywood's

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<v Speaker 3>first Latina star. Vanessa del Rio stars in films like

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<v Speaker 3>Dracula Exotica. She uses her new influx of cash to

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<v Speaker 3>take herself on a dream vacation to Europe. Vanessa del

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<v Speaker 3>Rio makes one hundred and twenty movies and appears in

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<v Speaker 3>innumerable peep show loops before retiring from adult films in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty six. She continues to dance and model, and

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<v Speaker 3>appears in a nineteen ninety six episode of NYPD Blue.

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<v Speaker 3>Vanessa del Rio has a second wave of notoriety from

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<v Speaker 3>being name checked in songs by ice Cube Digital underg

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<v Speaker 3>in Junior Mafia. She cameos in the music video for

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<v Speaker 3>Junior Mafia's Get Money, and on set, Little Kim approaches

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<v Speaker 3>her to say she's a fan. Vanessa deploys her coding

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<v Speaker 3>skills to create a personal website for her Goddess of

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<v Speaker 3>Lust fan club, where she sells memorabilia and does cam shows.

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<v Speaker 3>There's also a tashi in art book about her.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen you Can't unring a bell, I can't be a

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<v Speaker 4>porn apologist. You can't undo the fun. I just considered

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<v Speaker 4>my life an adventure. It's like I let the wind

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<v Speaker 4>blow me wherever. Everything that you could consider exploitative, I

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<v Speaker 4>found something to get out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Stars like Linda Wong and Vanessa del Rio are among

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<v Speaker 3>the first to break the white blonde mold, but performers

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<v Speaker 3>of color also have to contend with issues that white

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<v Speaker 3>actors don't like being exoticized and racially fetishized. For these

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<v Speaker 3>performers of color, working within the studio system often means

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<v Speaker 3>agreeing to take racially stereotyped roles because that's all that's

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<v Speaker 3>being offered to them. But in the eighties and early nineties,

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<v Speaker 3>there are actors and directors on both sides of the hill,

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<v Speaker 3>in both Hollywood and porn Valley, who are actively aiming

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<v Speaker 3>to challenge and change the racist status quo by changing

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<v Speaker 3>who is behind the camera, in front of it, and

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<v Speaker 3>running the studios. In the nineteen eighties, Eddie Murphy is

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<v Speaker 3>a world famous comedian and a list Hollywood star, wildly

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<v Speaker 3>popular from his stand on Saturday Night Live and blockbuster

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<v Speaker 3>movies like Beverly Hills Cop. Much like porn stand up

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<v Speaker 3>involves doing something rehearsed and trying to make it appear spontaneous.

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<v Speaker 3>Bruce Gowers is a Scotsman who directed the proto music

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<v Speaker 3>video for Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody. Gowers helped pioneer the form

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<v Speaker 3>that became music videos by filming promotional performance videos for

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<v Speaker 3>legacy acts like The Rolling Stones and Rod Stewart. Gower

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<v Speaker 3>shot up to become one of the most sought after

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<v Speaker 3>names in the burgeoning music video economy.

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<v Speaker 5>It changed the way music was perceived. Everyone was doing

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<v Speaker 5>videos and bands were seeing their sales and chop positions rise.

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<v Speaker 6>Bruce Gowers director.

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<v Speaker 3>Bruce Gowers moved to La where he directed the music

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<v Speaker 3>video for Michael Jackson's Rock with You and several Prince videos,

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<v Speaker 3>including nineteen ninety nine and Kiss. Eddie Murphy hand picks

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<v Speaker 3>Bruce Gowers to direct his landmark stand up special Delirious,

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<v Speaker 3>which shares its title with a Prince song. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>eighty five, Eddie Murphy hosts the MTV Video Music Awards

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<v Speaker 3>and goes off script, ad libing and cursing in defiance

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<v Speaker 3>of MTV censorship rules. The Los Angeles Times runs letters

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<v Speaker 3>of Complaint.

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<v Speaker 7>I was watching the MTB Video Music Awards on Channel

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<v Speaker 7>eleven and was appalled by the number of times Eddie

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<v Speaker 7>Murphy used profanity and was bleeped. My ten year old

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<v Speaker 7>daughter was watching, and even though Murphy was censored, she

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<v Speaker 7>could figure out what he said. If a show was

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<v Speaker 7>going to be aired at eight PM, it should be

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<v Speaker 7>clean enough for the whole family to see it. Susan

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<v Speaker 7>Wattling Chino.

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<v Speaker 3>In the eighties, Prince has also become famous and controversial

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<v Speaker 3>for his envelope pushing lyrics and raw overt sexuality. Eddie

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<v Speaker 3>Murphy and Prince are both part of what pearl clutters

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<v Speaker 3>like Susan Wattling from Chino see as a new raunch culture. Really,

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<v Speaker 3>it's that Eddie Murphy and Prince's huge celebrity as black

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<v Speaker 3>men threatens the racist American pop cultural status quo. So

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen eighty three, a backlash starts. It begins when

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<v Speaker 3>Rick Alley, a thirty year old junior executive at a

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<v Speaker 3>Cincinnati tool company, buys the Prince album nineteen ninety nine

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<v Speaker 3>from a record store and brings it home to play

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<v Speaker 3>for his family on the living room stereo. Rick ally

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<v Speaker 3>buys the album because he loves little red Corvette, which

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<v Speaker 3>he thinks is about a car that is small and

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<v Speaker 3>red and not about Quissy.

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<v Speaker 8>The whole one side of the album had what you'd

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<v Speaker 8>call top forty hits. We didn't get to the four

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<v Speaker 8>letter words until I turned it over, Rick Alley concerned

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<v Speaker 8>father Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 3>When rick Ally flips the LP over to Let's Pretend

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<v Speaker 3>We're married, he is shocked by the content and tries

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<v Speaker 3>to run his eight year old son an eleven year

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<v Speaker 3>old daughter into another room while his wife, Mitzy freaks out.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's too late. His kids have heard Prince's ode

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<v Speaker 3>to matrimony. Rick Ally runs to look at the record

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<v Speaker 3>to see if the obscene words coming out of his

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<v Speaker 3>stereo system are listed on a lyric sheet, only to

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<v Speaker 3>find that there is no lyric sheet provided with the album,

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<v Speaker 3>and so rick Alley begins a personal crusade against what

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<v Speaker 3>gets termed porn rock that starts with a demand that

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<v Speaker 3>record stores warn you if the album you are buying

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<v Speaker 3>contains profane lyrics.

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<v Speaker 8>I think Prince is a fantastic artist. I bought Purple

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<v Speaker 8>Rain too. He's an incredible musician, and my wife and

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<v Speaker 8>I are big fans, so you can't say this is

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<v Speaker 8>a vendetta.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen eighty four, a group called the National Parent

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<v Speaker 3>Teachers Association takes up rick Alley's cause with a conservative

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<v Speaker 3>lobbyist group called Parents Music Resource Center, a coalition of

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<v Speaker 3>women married to influential politicians funded by ghouls like Mike

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<v Speaker 3>Love from The Beach Boys. The PTA and the PMRC

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<v Speaker 3>go after the National Association of Broadcasters and threaten to

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<v Speaker 3>get their radio licenses revoked if they play songs with

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<v Speaker 3>explicit lyrics or indecent thememes. They demand records come out

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<v Speaker 3>with ratings and warning labels for sex, drugs, violence, and

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<v Speaker 3>the occult. Good Housekeeping magazines suggests parents write angry letters

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<v Speaker 3>and boycott record companies. An anti censorship group forms called

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<v Speaker 3>the Musical Majority, whose members include Martin Scorsese.

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<v Speaker 8>Hall and Oats.

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<v Speaker 3>The Musical Majority says ratings and warning labels are okay

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<v Speaker 3>as long as obscene content itself isn't being suppressed. The

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<v Speaker 3>controversy just sells even more prints records. The record companies

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<v Speaker 3>agree to do the parental advisory stickers, which they have

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<v Speaker 3>already been putting on explicit comedy albums like Eddie Murphy's Delirious.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen eighty nine. The stand up comedy landscape has

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<v Speaker 3>become rife with comedians whose gimmick is that they are

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<v Speaker 3>raunchy in court controversy, usually by doing sexist, racist, and

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<v Speaker 3>homophobic material. Eddie Murphy resents that he gets so much

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<v Speaker 3>public flack for working blue, while white comedians who do

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<v Speaker 3>much dirtier material and are less funny than Eddie Murphy

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<v Speaker 3>seem to.

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<v Speaker 6>Skate hickory dickery dock.

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<v Speaker 9>Some chick's been sucking my cock clock Struck two. I

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<v Speaker 9>dropped my goo, dumped the bitch down the next block. Oh,

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<v Speaker 9>Andrew Dice Clay comedian.

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<v Speaker 10>Now when I did Delirious, I got all this flag

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<v Speaker 10>from my material being so filthy. The truth is it's

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<v Speaker 10>nowhere nearest fieldy is some of the stuff they're doing. Now,

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<v Speaker 10>I'll feeling like a fucking oh guy watching Sam Kinnison

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<v Speaker 10>or Andrew Dace Clay Eddie Murphy comedian.

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<v Speaker 3>By the late eighties, Eddie Murphy has become one of

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<v Speaker 3>the most powerful people in the film industry after starring

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<v Speaker 3>in a string of blockbuster heads. While Hollywood power brokers

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<v Speaker 3>are still extremely openly racist behind the scenes, they'll make

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<v Speaker 3>an occasional exception for a star like Murphy if they

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<v Speaker 3>sense there's money to be made. In an interview with

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<v Speaker 3>Jet magazine, director Spike Lee criticizes Eddie Murphy for not

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<v Speaker 3>using his power to help other, less powerful black film

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<v Speaker 3>workers break into a racist industry that runs on a

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<v Speaker 3>closed circuit of gatekeeping and private golf course networking.

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<v Speaker 11>If Eddie Murphy, who made a billion dollars for Paramount,

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<v Speaker 11>went into their offices and said, I ain't making no

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<v Speaker 11>more films until you hire some black people in your

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<v Speaker 11>front office, they would have to do it. I hope

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<v Speaker 11>he'll use his clout rather than focus on who gets

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<v Speaker 11>the best table at Spago's Spike Lee.

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<v Speaker 3>Director Eddie Murphy directly responds to Spike Lee's comments in

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<v Speaker 3>a Rolling Stone interview, saying that Spike Lee is overestimating

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<v Speaker 3>how much power Murphy actually has with the big movie studios.

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<v Speaker 10>The company is called Paramount, not Eddie Murphy Productions. I

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<v Speaker 10>can't walk into the studios front offices and demand, shit,

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<v Speaker 10>how's some black people here.

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<v Speaker 3>Murphy also gets critiqued by actor director Robert Townsend, whose

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<v Speaker 3>movie Hollywood Shuffle is about reductive screen caricatures of blackness

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<v Speaker 3>at Hollywood studios. The success of an Eddie Murphy is

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<v Speaker 3>seen as an exceptional outlier, not a sign that a

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<v Speaker 3>larger breadth of voices makes for better art. After initially

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<v Speaker 3>getting defensive, Murphy processes the feedback from his black peers

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<v Speaker 3>in the entertainment industry. He hires Robert Townsend to direct

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<v Speaker 3>his second stand up special, nineteen eighty seven's Raw. Eddie

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<v Speaker 3>Murphy knows the film industry is racist and that studio

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<v Speaker 3>executives still don't care about fostering diversity, only about using

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<v Speaker 3>him to make more money. He is also a where

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<v Speaker 3>that Hollywood's old white establishment wants to make him a

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<v Speaker 3>token to pretend that the film industry is more progressive

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<v Speaker 3>than it is Presenting. At the nineteen eighty eight Oscars,

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<v Speaker 3>Eddie Murphy again goes off script.

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<v Speaker 10>They came to me and said they wanted me to

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<v Speaker 10>present the award for Best Picture. My manager came and

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<v Speaker 10>told me that the Academy had picked me. My first

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<v Speaker 10>reaction was to say, no, I ain't going. My manager said,

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<v Speaker 10>but why. I said, I'm not going because they haven't

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<v Speaker 10>recognized black people in their motion pictures. He said, what

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<v Speaker 10>are you talking about black people? Win Oscars? I said, well,

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<v Speaker 10>black actors and actresses have won Oscars throughout sixty years,

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<v Speaker 10>but I'll probably never win an Oscar from saying this,

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<v Speaker 10>but hey, what the heck, I gotta say it. Actually,

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<v Speaker 10>I might not be in any trouble because the way

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<v Speaker 10>it's going, it's about every twenty years we get one,

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<v Speaker 10>so we ain't due till about two thousand and four,

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<v Speaker 10>so by the time this all blows over. I said

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<v Speaker 10>I wasn't going, but my manager said, you have to go.

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<v Speaker 10>You can't sub the academy. So I came down here

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<v Speaker 10>to give the award. But I just feel we have

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<v Speaker 10>to recognize as the people. I just want you to

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<v Speaker 10>know that I'm gonna give this award, but black people

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<v Speaker 10>will not ride the caboose of society and we will

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<v Speaker 10>not bring up the rear anymore, and I want you

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<v Speaker 10>to recognize it.

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<v Speaker 3>Murphy expects his speech to spark a big conversation about

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<v Speaker 3>race and representation on screen. He is surprised to see

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<v Speaker 3>nobody mentioning it in the news or the trades the

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<v Speaker 3>next day, almost as if to pretend it didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 3>There are rumors that Oscars brass are very pissed about

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<v Speaker 3>Eddie going off script to critique the Academy, and that

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<v Speaker 3>in doing so he has detonated his own chances of

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<v Speaker 3>ever winning an Academy award. Rather than responding to the

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<v Speaker 3>truth and his criticism with a big show of action,

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<v Speaker 3>they choose to punish him for public criticizing the Academy.

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<v Speaker 3>The Academy proves his point approximately twenty years later when

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<v Speaker 3>they nominate Murphy for Best Supporting Actor for his role

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<v Speaker 3>in Dream Girls and then have him lose the award

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<v Speaker 3>to Alan Arkin in Little Miss Sunshine. In nineteen eighty nine,

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<v Speaker 3>Spike Lee's third feature, Do the Right Thing, comes out

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<v Speaker 3>and hits really big at the box office, both critically

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<v Speaker 3>and commercially. The success of Do the Right Thing helps

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<v Speaker 3>kick off a new era of filmmaking known as Black

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<v Speaker 3>New Wave or Black New Hollywood. Do the Right Thing

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<v Speaker 3>makes almost forty million dollars on a six million dollar budget,

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<v Speaker 3>and as always, it's visions of potential profits that finally

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<v Speaker 3>motivate some producers to bankroll a handful of young black

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<v Speaker 3>filmmakers after studios are forced to see that there is

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<v Speaker 3>a large underserved audience for films about the black experience

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<v Speaker 3>in America that are made by black filmmakers. In October

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<v Speaker 3>of nineteen ninety, Spike Lee and Eddie Murphy make peace

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<v Speaker 3>publicly in a Spin magazine cover story conversation where they

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<v Speaker 3>clear the air, reminisced about growing up in New York

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<v Speaker 3>and connect over both sponsoring the United Artists Against Apartheid

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<v Speaker 3>benefit for Nelson Mandela or Nelson Mandela told Eddie Murphy

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<v Speaker 3>his comedy made him laugh while he was stuck in prison.

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<v Speaker 3>They also discussed Hollywood's double standards for black creatives versus

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<v Speaker 3>white ones, which Murphy experienced firsthand when his nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 3>nine directorial debut Harlem Knights flopped and he suddenly saw

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<v Speaker 3>himself being labeled in the trades as washed up and

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<v Speaker 3>box office poison.

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<v Speaker 11>The way I see it, they only want one black

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<v Speaker 11>person at the top anyway, And even though you've made

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<v Speaker 11>two billion dollars for Pair Amount and Hollywood, I still

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<v Speaker 11>think they'd rather have somebody white in that position. And

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<v Speaker 11>anytime there's a white boy that comes around that might

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<v Speaker 11>take the title from you, like Tom Cruise or whoever,

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<v Speaker 11>it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it from Eddie.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what?

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<v Speaker 10>I felt like that when I did come into America,

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<v Speaker 10>because it felt like that was a really good movie

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<v Speaker 10>and it got really really bad criticism. It was like, well,

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<v Speaker 10>what the fuck do they want me to do?

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<v Speaker 12>You know?

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<v Speaker 10>But this movie, I think it was an okay movie.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, we got some bare views and we got

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<v Speaker 10>some really good ones. But I'd expect to be like either.

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<v Speaker 11>Or how come we never just talk to each other.

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<v Speaker 10>What they like to do is to separate. You're the

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<v Speaker 10>biggest black director in the world. Okay, I'm the biggest

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<v Speaker 10>black movie star in the world. That's a dangerous combination

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<v Speaker 10>to have us hook up because the people who have

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<v Speaker 10>control don't have control.

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<v Speaker 3>Then Eddie Murphy and Spike Lee commiserate about the huge

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<v Speaker 3>pressure on both of them to fix the entertainment industries

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<v Speaker 3>racism problems. And while they're talking about Hollywood, the same

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<v Speaker 3>thing is happening on the other side of the hill

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<v Speaker 3>and the other entertainment and just in the valley. In

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<v Speaker 3>the late eighties and early nineties, porn studios are dealing

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<v Speaker 3>with the same issues as mainstream filmmakers when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to representation and inclusion. Despite Asian American author Bob Chen

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<v Speaker 3>being porn's first big director. As the business becomes ultra profitable.

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<v Speaker 3>It's primarily white men behind the camera, and they tend

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<v Speaker 3>to fetishize other races in their films. The earliest porn

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<v Speaker 3>movies from the seventies are integrated. It's only later in

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<v Speaker 3>the video age that performers of color are really siloed

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<v Speaker 3>off into a separate niche of adult movies centered around

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<v Speaker 3>racial fetishism and racist stereotypes. There is always acting work

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<v Speaker 3>for performers of color, but mainly within this framework. But

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<v Speaker 3>some people are always working hard to broaden what pornography

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<v Speaker 3>looks like and make the industry more inclusive and better

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<v Speaker 3>for participants. One of these people is a tall, handsome,

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<v Speaker 3>life black performer who takes the stage name Shawn Michaels.

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<v Speaker 3>When Jenna World returns, we meet the James Bond of

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<v Speaker 3>Horn Shawn Michaels. Oh my God, Welcome back to Jenna World.

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<v Speaker 3>Shawn Michaels is born Andre Allen in Brooklyn in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>fifty eight, up Ices. He attends Boys and Girls High

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<v Speaker 3>School in Bedstye. Because of his striking good looks and

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<v Speaker 3>six foot three height, he gets scouted into modeling. He

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<v Speaker 3>moves to la in the late eighties and works as

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<v Speaker 3>a nurse in Woodland Hills. He gets back into modeling,

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<v Speaker 3>this time without his clothes on. In nineteen eighty five,

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<v Speaker 3>at age twenty seven, he decides to get into porn

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<v Speaker 3>as a performer. He combines the names of two famous

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<v Speaker 3>men epitomizing luxury and masculinity, Sean Connery and Michael Jordan,

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<v Speaker 3>to form his stage name, Shawn Michaels.

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<v Speaker 13>Sean Connery is a man's man on and off camera,

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<v Speaker 13>Shawn Michaels performer.

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<v Speaker 3>When Shawn Michaels enters the industry in the mid eighties,

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<v Speaker 3>films with black performers having sex are treated as a

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<v Speaker 3>niche genre. Money flows predominantly to white run companies and

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<v Speaker 3>white performers. White men were still considered the most important

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<v Speaker 3>consumers for the porn business to court because American porn

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<v Speaker 3>is so racist. Shawn Michaels does his earliest work in Germany,

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<v Speaker 3>where is likely racist in a different European way. Shawn

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<v Speaker 3>Michaels has an ambitious plan to make high budget, glossy

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<v Speaker 3>porn for a black audience that reflects his own tastes.

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<v Speaker 3>Shawn Michaels wants to portray himself a suave, rich, and

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<v Speaker 3>seductive like James Bond, talking women out of their clothes

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<v Speaker 3>with his smooth charisma. In nineteen ninety, he appears in

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<v Speaker 3>Oh What a Night, where he's the lone black performer.

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<v Speaker 3>His sex scene is with Sherry Taylor, a wife and

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<v Speaker 3>mother who entered a wet t shirt contest in her

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<v Speaker 3>thirties and discovered she was an exhibitionist. Oh What a

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<v Speaker 3>Night is directed by John Leslie ak John Nuzzo, an

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<v Speaker 3>Italian American stud turned director from Ohio. John Leslie, a

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<v Speaker 3>five foot eleven Steelers fan in Aquarius, worked at a

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<v Speaker 3>steel mill, then moved to New York for art school

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<v Speaker 3>and to play harmonica in a band called the Brooklyn Bluesbusters.

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<v Speaker 3>In the nineteen seventies, he moves to Mill Valley, California,

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<v Speaker 3>and gets into porn via the Mitchell Brothers. When John

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<v Speaker 3>Holmes is sidelined by the Wonderland Murders, thirty year old

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<v Speaker 3>John Leslie takes over his spot. Leslie is known for

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<v Speaker 3>three watercolor paintings, playing blues harmonica, and directing the hell

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<v Speaker 3>out of some sex scenes.

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<v Speaker 5>John was one of the very very very few who

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<v Speaker 5>I looked up to as having something to teach me.

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<v Speaker 5>He was the best pornographer, best eerotic filmmaker. He was

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<v Speaker 5>just an artist in many ways, from his painting to

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<v Speaker 5>his cooking to his filmmaking. Paul Thomas director.

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<v Speaker 3>Leslie is one of the first performers to move into directing.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen eighty seven, he directs night shift nurses, and

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<v Speaker 3>by nineteen eighty eight he's directing full time. He is

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<v Speaker 3>fresh off a spate of AVN wins when he makes

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<v Speaker 3>Oh What a Night for BCA with cub performer turned

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<v Speaker 3>aspiring director Shawn Michaels.

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<v Speaker 13>I was nervous. I knew my lines and everything, but

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<v Speaker 13>I was just nervous about working with John Leslie, And

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<v Speaker 13>of course I had a crush on Sherry Taylor, so

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<v Speaker 13>I was totally intimidated. But put me at ease, as

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<v Speaker 13>did Joey, and I was able to pull it off.

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<v Speaker 13>That was basically the beginning of my career as a

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<v Speaker 13>serious individual in the adult industry. That was my introduction

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<v Speaker 13>to an actor becoming a director producer.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh What a Night shoots on location in Bodega Bay, California,

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<v Speaker 3>where Alfred Hitchcock made The Birds. Sean Michael scene gets

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<v Speaker 3>him noticed by the big porn studios. For his on

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<v Speaker 3>screen presence and physical prowess. He earns a sterling professional

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<v Speaker 3>reputation and becomes known as the gentleman pornographer.

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<v Speaker 13>John Leslie was the first person to give me a

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<v Speaker 13>male performer in the adult industry who just happens to

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<v Speaker 13>be black, an opportunity to do more than just be

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<v Speaker 13>known for being a black dick in movies, and which

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<v Speaker 13>also gave me the opportunity to see that the industry

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<v Speaker 13>did offer more than a lot of racially demeaning types

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<v Speaker 13>of roles towards not only African Americans, but all nationalities

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<v Speaker 13>that are in the adult industry.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen ninety one, Shawn Michaels gets his chance to

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<v Speaker 3>direct his debut is Girls in the Hood, a takeoff

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<v Speaker 3>on John Singleton's nineteen ninety one hit debut Boys in

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<v Speaker 3>the Hood, for which twenty four year old Singleton became

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<v Speaker 3>the first black director ever nominated for the Best Director Oscar,

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<v Speaker 3>as well as the youngest ever nominee. Shawn Michael's career

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<v Speaker 3>blossoms in tandem with nineties black New Hollywood, led by

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<v Speaker 3>directors like Singleton, Mario Van Peebles, and the Hughes Brothers.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen ninety two, Shawn Michaels directs a movie called

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<v Speaker 3>black Jack City, titled after Van Peebles nineteen ninety one

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<v Speaker 3>New Jack City. In nineteen ninety five, Shawn Michaels gets

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<v Speaker 3>inducted into the AVN Hall of Fame. In nineteen ninety six,

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<v Speaker 3>he founds his own production company, Shawn Michaels Productions International.

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<v Speaker 3>He hires his sister Sandy to run sales and marketing.

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<v Speaker 3>Shawn Michael's films are diverse, which is not to say unproblematic.

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<v Speaker 3>They have fetishistic language and themes, but for porn this

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<v Speaker 3>is still major progress. He helps expand and humanize the

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<v Speaker 3>portrayal of black men in porn. Michael stars in films

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<v Speaker 3>like a porn remake of Othello and directs titles like

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<v Speaker 3>Up Your Ass eight. He has big dreams for his imprint,

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<v Speaker 3>envisioning a sex comedy porn series inspired by James Bond

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<v Speaker 3>and Austin Powers called Sean Bond, which comes to pass

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<v Speaker 3>with titles like License to Drill and Cold.

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<v Speaker 13>Finger International Intrigue. Whatever it'll be, goofy, It'll have things

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<v Speaker 13>that we can have fun with sexually. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 13>leaning towards sexual comedy.

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<v Speaker 3>Michaels and another black performer named Ron high Tower work

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<v Speaker 3>on the white side of the porn industry while calling

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<v Speaker 3>out its continued racism. When high Tower retired from performing

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<v Speaker 3>in nineteen ninety six, he starts directing music videos for

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<v Speaker 3>rap groups like Gangstar and Above the Law. He directs

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<v Speaker 3>the music video for Tupac featuring Casey and JoJo's how

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<v Speaker 3>Do You Want It, which features black porn stars like

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<v Speaker 3>Angel Kelly, Jeanie Pepper, and Heather Hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>I work hard, and I planned to go all the

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<v Speaker 2>way to the top.

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<v Speaker 3>Before Jenna Jamison. One of the porn stars who becomes

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<v Speaker 3>most successful at crossing over into mainstream culture is Heather Hunter,

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<v Speaker 3>a five foot three libra dynamo from New York.

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<v Speaker 2>When I started in the business, I was being billed

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<v Speaker 2>as black an Italian. I had to hurry up and

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<v Speaker 2>nip that in the butt and let people know I

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<v Speaker 2>was proud to be African American. And then there were

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<v Speaker 2>the titles of the movies. My manager and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really want to do any stereotypical titles like Chocolate Swirl.

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<v Speaker 2>The porn companies did not get contracts to black girls

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<v Speaker 2>back then, and I just felt, well, why can't the

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<v Speaker 2>African Americans do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Heather Keisha Hunter real name, is born to a funeral

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<v Speaker 3>salesman and his wife in the South Bronx in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>sixty nine. One of four kids. Her parents divorced when

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 3>she's very young, and the family moves around New York

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 3>to Bedside, Harlem and Fort Green. As a teenager, Heather

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 3>is a New Addition fan who paints portraits of her family.

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 3>She runs away at age sixteen and supports herself through

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 3>odd jobs. She takes up with a graffiti crew and

0:29:37.280 --> 0:29:41.040
<v Speaker 3>uses the tag Miss forty five after the Able Ferrara film,

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 3>but gives it up after getting a paid citation. As punishment,

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 3>She's enrolled in a youth art workshop to channel her

0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 3>instincts into other forms of art making. Her teacher is

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:57.320
<v Speaker 3>the artist Keith Herring. Heather works as a clerk and

0:29:57.360 --> 0:29:59.920
<v Speaker 3>then a go go dancer at the Latin Quarter Nightclub,

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.640
<v Speaker 3>which opened in the forties as a jazz club, turned

0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 3>into a seventies disco, became a house music venue, and

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:10.600
<v Speaker 3>is now currently a reggaeton club. Hunter answers an ad

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 3>in the Village Voice looking for exotic dancers. From stripping,

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 3>she gets recruited into nude pictorials for Swank mag Her

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 3>co worker at Latin Quarter is a porn star named

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 3>Hyapatia Lee, who suggests Hunter could make good money in porn.

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 3>In nineteen eighty eight, she makes her first adult film

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 3>at the age of nineteen, titled Heather Hunter on Fire.

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 3>In New York, she shoots titles like Coming on America

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 3>and Screw the Right Thing. In nineteen ninety, Heather moves

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 3>out to Porn Valley and gets a job dancing on

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 3>Soul Train until nineteen ninety two, when they find out

0:30:47.680 --> 0:30:51.600
<v Speaker 3>she's an adult actress and fire her. In La she

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 3>fulfills one of her main goals, becoming a contract girl.

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 2>When I got signed to Vivid in nineteen ninety, I

0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:04.000
<v Speaker 2>became the first black female to be under contract.

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 3>Her Vivid debut, Heather Hunted, is directed by Judy Blue,

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 3>and detective work on the Internet Adult Film Database reveals

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.400
<v Speaker 3>that Judy Blue is a pseudonym used by Paul Thomas.

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 3>The first porn star to crossover into music is Andrea True,

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 3>a performer who has a nineteen seventy six hit with

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 3>More and More and More during the double Golden Age

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 3>of porn and disco. Andrea Trudan's parents were Slovenian immigrants

0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 3>in the Nashville polka scene. More and More and More

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 3>is a fluke hit, and True's music career stalls out

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 3>by her third album, a nineteen eighty anti war new

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:45.920
<v Speaker 3>wave rock album called War Machine, and she moves to

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Upstate New York to practice astrology and work as a

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:53.040
<v Speaker 3>drug counselor so By the nineties, the path to crossover

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 3>between porn into music is pretty well established. In nineteen

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 3>ninety three, Heather Hung Hunter signs an Island Records contract

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 3>and puts out a piano house single called I Want

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 3>It All Night Long. As a vivid girl living in LA,

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:14.240
<v Speaker 3>she's romanced by La playboys like Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Charlie Sheen,

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:18.200
<v Speaker 3>and Bill Maherr. She signs a new record contract with

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Tommy Boy. While her music career doesn't take off instantly

0:32:22.640 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 3>like her porn stardom did, Heather Hunter is so famous

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:28.959
<v Speaker 3>for porn she gets name checked in rap lyrics on

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Lil Kim's debut album Hardcore. In nineteen ninety five, Asia

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Carrera becomes the first Asian American Actress to win Best

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Performer of the Year at the Avian Awards. In nineteen

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 3>ninety six, she builds her own personal website, and in

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety eight, Asia Carrera appears in The Big Lebowski

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 3>in the Logjam in porn within the movie. In nineteen

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 3>ninety eight, Heather Hunter starts hosting a music video show

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 3>for BET called The Peep Show that shows uncensored music

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 3>videos to show that Arizon pay per view, where she

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 3>interviews rappers known for their sexual content like Achan Yele,

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Have Put It in Your Mouth Fame and Uncle Luke

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Campbell of two Live Crew. In nineteen ninety nine, Heather

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Hunter retires from performing in adult films and vows to

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 3>crack the mainstream.

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 14>Those old stereotypes about the adult business have been chipped away.

0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 14>It's not so disgusting anymore. Midori performer.

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 3>By the two thousands, major strides are being made for

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:37.360
<v Speaker 3>diversity and porn. Heather Hunter is featured on Cool Keith's

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:41.640
<v Speaker 3>album spank Master. In two thousand and one, a black

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 3>performer named Medori becomes the first black woman to win

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 3>any Adult Video News award for Best Supporting Actress.

0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 14>You have the playboy blonde who is sexy in every

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 14>man's dream, and as an African American woman, I was like, Okay,

0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 14>where's a sex symbol that looks like me? And there

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 14>were very, if not any that made me a little headstrong,

0:34:03.280 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 14>and I tried to figure out why, and the further

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 14>I looked into it, I thought, I want to change

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:08.719
<v Speaker 14>this because this isn't right.

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Midori's birth name is Michelle Wattley. She is the sister

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 3>of singer Jody Wattley. Born in Durham, North Carolina. Their

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 3>father is a traveling minister who takes them on the

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 3>road as he holds revival meetings. The family moves to

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Kansas City, Missouri, and then Chicago. Her parents split when

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:33.280
<v Speaker 3>she's twelve, and their mom moves Michelle and her sister

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:36.359
<v Speaker 3>out to California.

0:34:36.440 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 6>I moved to California.

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:39.520
<v Speaker 14>It was junior high school and I was in seventh

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:42.359
<v Speaker 14>grade and the girls have boyfriends. They were kissing, and

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 14>I was just mortified. I had never seen, you know,

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 14>that sort of thing before. It was just different. I

0:34:48.560 --> 0:34:50.760
<v Speaker 14>still have my Midwestern ways about myself.

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Michelle Wattley studies dance at a French ballet Academy and

0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 3>Theater in England. She works as a backup singer of

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:04.040
<v Speaker 3>Vidalsas hair model and a commercial actress, she is scouted

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 3>into modeling, but her five foot seven height keeps her

0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 3>off high fashion runways. As Michelle Wattley, she plays one

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:13.920
<v Speaker 3>of the naked female attendants in the bathtub scene in

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:17.719
<v Speaker 3>Eddie Murphy's Coming to America. She decides to become an

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 3>exotic dancer and takes the stage name Midori, after the

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:27.520
<v Speaker 3>Japanese melon liqueur Midori. The liqueur was originally named Erme's

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:31.480
<v Speaker 3>Melon Liqueur by its manufacturer, Suntri, and it was renamed

0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Madori for US audiences unfamiliar with the green melon flavor

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 3>popular in Japan, and launched two American audiences in nineteen

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 3>seventy eight at a party for the cast and crew

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 3>of Saturday Night Fever. Midori means green in Japanese, and

0:35:45.640 --> 0:35:48.760
<v Speaker 3>the Midori sour has the same sweet and sour taste

0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 3>as American green apple candy.

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 14>I got into the adult business for several reasons. One

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:58.320
<v Speaker 14>of them was to create some controversy. It also appealed

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 14>to me because there was a lack of African American

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:02.840
<v Speaker 14>women who were major porn stars, and I thought I

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 14>could take my music, my dancing and everything and be

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 14>an overall entertainer. I've always done music and that was

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:11.160
<v Speaker 14>something I never gave up on, but this was a

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:11.800
<v Speaker 14>big gamble.

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:13.320
<v Speaker 6>Luckily it worked.

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 3>In nineteen ninety five, Michelle Madori Wattley decides she wants

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 3>to fix the representation of black women in porn by

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:27.000
<v Speaker 3>entering the adult industry herself. Her sister, Jody Wattley has

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 3>already become a world famous singer. Jody Wattley was a

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 3>dancer on Soul Train who was hand picked by show

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 3>producer Don Cornelius to join his prefab R and B

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:41.360
<v Speaker 3>group Shalamar. Her nineteen eighty seven self titled album for

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 3>MCA made Jody Wattley a star and style icon. She

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 3>won the semi cursed Best New Artist Grammy in nineteen

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:53.759
<v Speaker 3>eighty eight. Like her sister Michelle, Jody Wattley hungers for

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 3>more images of black glamour and high fashion mixed with

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:01.879
<v Speaker 3>street style, so she creates the wearing designers like Isse

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:05.959
<v Speaker 3>Miaki and John Paul Gattier with her signature accessory, Big

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 3>Hoop Earrings.

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:10.400
<v Speaker 14>When I first got in The reason I wanted to

0:37:10.400 --> 0:37:12.320
<v Speaker 14>go full force in the adult market is because I

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 14>thought there was a lack of African American people, women,

0:37:14.960 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 14>especially being promoted in the same way as my blonde counterparts.

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 6>It baffled my mind and it pissed me off.

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:23.359
<v Speaker 14>So I did everything I could to make it where

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 14>a black woman was able to be on the same level,

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 14>so to speak, within this business.

0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:32.399
<v Speaker 3>Jody Wattley's late eighties influence on culture is so wide

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:36.279
<v Speaker 3>ranging that the catchphrase Hasta la vista baby from her

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:39.359
<v Speaker 3>hit Looking for a New Love is then adopted by

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.520
<v Speaker 3>Arnold Schwarzenager in the nineteen ninety two movie Terminator to

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Judgment Day. Jody Wattley is inspired by icons like Diana

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:54.240
<v Speaker 3>Ross and Grace Jones, and her public image of a beautiful, cool,

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:59.800
<v Speaker 3>sophisticated black woman who mixes streetwear and catore inspires artists

0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 3>like TLC and Selena. Her follow up albums are more

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.720
<v Speaker 3>straight R and B, and she never surpasses the success

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:11.280
<v Speaker 3>of her first album sales, but the Wattley name means

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 3>something to audiences.

0:38:14.600 --> 0:38:16.839
<v Speaker 14>I'm not saying my family's thrilled about what I'm doing,

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 14>but they love me and support me.

0:38:18.920 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 6>My sister and I have come to an understanding.

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 14>We share the same last name and the same parents,

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:24.960
<v Speaker 14>but we have different laves.

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Jody is no comment about the situation, no comment whatsoever,

0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Tom SD Jody Wattley spokesman.

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Medori tries to appear only in scenes she doesn't personally

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:44.880
<v Speaker 3>feel our racist. At first, she is only doing mainstream

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 3>porn with white male performers, which she rationalizes to herself

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:51.240
<v Speaker 3>by saying that those are the scenes that win adult

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 3>awards and get mainstream media attention. Medory brands herself as

0:38:56.440 --> 0:39:00.040
<v Speaker 3>the black Barbie Doll in emulation of the popularity of

0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:03.840
<v Speaker 3>rapper Lil Kim, whose art for her album Hardcore directly

0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.080
<v Speaker 3>references the esthetics of hardcore porn.

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 14>Society is a little more open now and people are

0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 14>more ready for what's going on. With artists like Lil

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:16.359
<v Speaker 14>Kim being so straightforward with her lyrical content, that's open

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:17.319
<v Speaker 14>a door for someone like me.

0:39:19.440 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 3>But she adds that unlike Little Kim and other rappers,

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:26.239
<v Speaker 3>MADRORI does the stuff that Little Kim raps about, and

0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:27.720
<v Speaker 3>she does it on camera.

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 14>As a performer, Medoria is who I am, whether I'm singing, rapping,

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 14>or in front of the camera. Who are you gonna believe?

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 14>Between me, Foxy Brown and Little Kim, I'm the real deal.

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:42.279
<v Speaker 14>People use the media to their best advantage.

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:47.720
<v Speaker 3>Within the year, Midori starts to realize the racist limitations

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:51.280
<v Speaker 3>of the white focused mainstream porn industry and starts making

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 3>porn with black directors and performers.

0:39:55.200 --> 0:39:56.959
<v Speaker 6>I didn't want to have black guys thinking I didn't

0:39:57.000 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 6>do them too.

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.400
<v Speaker 3>In nineteen nine twenty seven, Spike Lee offers Medoria a

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 3>role in He Got Game as a prostitute, which she

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 3>turns down because she doesn't want to play a sex worker.

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:12.440
<v Speaker 3>She starts directing porn herself and joins the free speech

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 3>coalition of pro adult activists.

0:40:16.320 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 14>I can cut myself off emotionally when I'm working, but

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:19.920
<v Speaker 14>when I'm home.

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 6>I need that.

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 14>It's made my personal relationships more intense because I look

0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 14>for more than the physical aspects of sex. I'm proud

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 14>of the choices I've made.

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 3>In nineteen ninety nine, Medoria is featured on a compilation

0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 3>of music by porn stars called Porn to Rock. The

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 3>producer of Porn to Rock echoes other adult industry figures

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 3>in saying that porn is actually one of the nicer

0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:47.800
<v Speaker 3>tears of the entertainment industry, especially compared to music.

0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 15>It's certainly less scummy than the music industry. The people

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 15>are more honest, the friendlier. It's, you know, more of

0:40:57.000 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 15>a family. Maybe it's because they're all sleeping again, I

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.319
<v Speaker 15>don't know, Well, who's to say that in the music

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:07.239
<v Speaker 15>industry then not, I'll sleeping together too, DA's caller executive

0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:08.719
<v Speaker 15>producer will pawn to Rock.

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:11.359
<v Speaker 6>It's the right time.

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:13.399
<v Speaker 14>I knew it was going to happen because with music

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:15.880
<v Speaker 14>videos and the girls damn Near naked, and the lyrics

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:19.400
<v Speaker 14>and the billboards and ads and Calvin kleinb everything was

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:20.440
<v Speaker 14>gearing towards sex.

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:25.880
<v Speaker 3>That same year, Midori has a three month relationship with

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Kid Rock, who says that she gets just as much

0:41:28.560 --> 0:41:30.719
<v Speaker 3>attention from fans on the street as he does.

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:34.440
<v Speaker 14>It's so funny to watch him, you know.

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 16>People see me and they run up they're like, oh,

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 16>I got your record and.

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 13>I love it.

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Then people see her and they're like are.

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:45.319
<v Speaker 13>You do you And she'll be like, yeah, that's me

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:47.520
<v Speaker 13>and they'll be like I thought so.

0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 16>And they'll never really come out with like, oh.

0:41:51.080 --> 0:41:52.840
<v Speaker 12>Didn't I see you with a dick in your ass

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.439
<v Speaker 12>on TV Kid Rock.

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.720
<v Speaker 3>It's because they have respect for her work, just like yours.

0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:03.919
<v Speaker 3>Kid Rock. Vadi signs a record contract with a small

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:07.440
<v Speaker 3>label in Seattle, and in two thousand, she appears on

0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:10.439
<v Speaker 3>the cover of the Andrew Dice Clay album Face Down,

0:42:10.600 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 3>Ass Up.

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 14>I wanted to create some controversy to catapult my music,

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 14>you know, like Madonna did.

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 3>When Jenna World returns, abn holds a roundtable about racism

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<v Speaker 3>in the industry. Oh my God, welcome back to jenal World.

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<v Speaker 3>By the late nineties, the porn industry has become more

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 3>diverse due to strides made by performers like Shawn Michaels,

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 3>Heather Hunter, and Midori. They saw a gap in the

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 3>market and catered to an audience that had been underserved

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:59.799
<v Speaker 3>for decades. But while these black performers led the way

0:42:59.840 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 3>from onscreen representation, once they'd established that there was a

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 3>large financial market, many of those same black creators were

0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:12.279
<v Speaker 3>prevented from cashing in on it. Here's Jake Steed A

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 3>Virgo talking with Madori for av And magazine in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>ninety nine during a roundtable they conducted with black performers

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<v Speaker 3>and directors.

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<v Speaker 17>Years ago, there were a couple of big directors, guys

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<v Speaker 17>that have probably been in the cover of ABN who said,

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<v Speaker 17>nobody wants to see that shit. Nobody wants to see

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:33.920
<v Speaker 17>black Girls. It just won't sell. Now, we had something

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 17>called Black Dirty Debutante, and almost every black man in

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 17>America watched those movies. Then the same people who denied

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<v Speaker 17>any kind of work or respect as far as black

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.719
<v Speaker 17>talent jumped on the bandwagon. And what you see is

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 17>a bunch of white guys trying to commercialize the new

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 17>untapped market of blacks, and the blacks don't have any

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:55.560
<v Speaker 17>power to capitalize on it because they've been so broke,

0:43:55.760 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 17>trying to survive, trying to get work. Now that the

0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 17>black markets open, all the companies that are doing black

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:06.399
<v Speaker 17>movies are all white. They're just commercializing it. And these

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 17>places cannot duplicate the black experience. They can try to

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:12.359
<v Speaker 17>commercialize it as much as they can. But I see

0:44:12.360 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 17>that in the future what's gonna happen is that the

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:17.640
<v Speaker 17>consumers who watch my movies are gonna say, hey, this

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 17>is real. We want something from our perspective, not something commercialized,

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 17>and we don't want to support a company that's pretending

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:29.440
<v Speaker 17>to be black, that's not really black. Jake st performer

0:44:29.480 --> 0:44:34.080
<v Speaker 17>and director. You can start by directing black movies and

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 17>then you can direct white movies. It's not that a

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:39.839
<v Speaker 17>black man can't direct white movies. There's nothing special to it.

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<v Speaker 17>The problem is that there's so little resources that how

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<v Speaker 17>are they gonna get the money within the business. Because

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:50.680
<v Speaker 17>there's no money to be made if you're black. We

0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:54.080
<v Speaker 17>can't get to a point where we say I made it,

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:58.440
<v Speaker 17>therefore everybody else can. That's like Bill Cosby attitude. You

0:44:58.520 --> 0:44:59.800
<v Speaker 17>have to be pro black.

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<v Speaker 6>I am pro black.

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<v Speaker 17>Racism is so rampant in the industry. It has to

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:08.959
<v Speaker 17>be a dress and it's not a lie just because

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:11.120
<v Speaker 17>one or two people made it like I made it.

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:15.880
<v Speaker 17>I made it because I was lucky and talented to persist, persist, persist.

0:45:16.200 --> 0:45:17.799
<v Speaker 17>But it doesn't have to be that.

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<v Speaker 6>Way because it's a white dominated world.

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<v Speaker 14>We all know that it's difficult and it's hard, and

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 14>we have to get our hustle on it. And I'm

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:26.640
<v Speaker 14>lucky to have the things happen to me that have happened,

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 14>but I've also had to work really hard and I'm

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:30.720
<v Speaker 14>still working hard at it now. With the dance market,

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:32.759
<v Speaker 14>and there are clubs that still will not book me

0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 14>because I'm black. It doesn't matter how many awards I've won,

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:38.440
<v Speaker 14>it doesn't matter how many box covers, magazine covers I've

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 14>been on.

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<v Speaker 6>It's because I'm fucking black, exactly.

0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 14>And I swear when my record comes out, if these

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 14>clubs still do not book me, I'm gonna call the

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<v Speaker 14>ACLU and the NAACP.

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<v Speaker 3>Shawn Michaels, who joins the roundtable midway through, gets mentioned

0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 3>first a few times negatively by some of the other

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 3>black performers, imply that Shawn Michaels panders to the white

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:05.920
<v Speaker 3>production companies and doesn't work hard enough to advance the

0:46:05.960 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 3>careers of other black performers that aren't Shawn Michaels to

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 3>help build out their own part of the industry. For

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 3>those who run the white side of the porn industry,

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 3>there's only room for one token blackmail performer at a time,

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 3>and currently it's Shawn Michaels. Jake Steed alleges that even

0:46:25.560 --> 0:46:27.839
<v Speaker 3>Shawn Michaels has had to take a cut in his

0:46:27.880 --> 0:46:30.760
<v Speaker 3>pay rate because there's still so little work for black

0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:33.959
<v Speaker 3>performers in the industry. And they're still not getting paid

0:46:34.040 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 3>the same kind of money as the white performers. Jake

0:46:37.680 --> 0:46:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Steed guesses that black and interracial content accounts for ten

0:46:41.080 --> 0:46:44.080
<v Speaker 3>percent of the porn industry, up from three percent a

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:48.279
<v Speaker 3>few years before. Jake Steed and another black performer named

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:52.000
<v Speaker 3>mister Marcus credit their own careers to Ed Powers, the

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.880
<v Speaker 3>inventor of Dirty Debutants, who they say is one of

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.400
<v Speaker 3>the few non racist white guys in porn Valley.

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 17>The key to the future is guys like myself and

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:05.080
<v Speaker 17>Sean who make a better product and outdo the white

0:47:05.120 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 17>guys who are trying to make black movies. Put them

0:47:07.680 --> 0:47:09.919
<v Speaker 17>back where they belong, doing their own thing.

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:13.800
<v Speaker 6>There's a female involved with that too, you know, okay,

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:14.640
<v Speaker 6>which is me.

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<v Speaker 3>The white AVN interviewer states that for decades, porn has

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 3>had a racist unspoken rule against scenes of black male

0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:27.640
<v Speaker 3>performers with white women because they thought it would prevent

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 3>the film from going to cable due to racists and

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 3>television affiliates and markets like the Deep South. One cable

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:38.719
<v Speaker 3>company finally broke the rule, and the other larger pay

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 3>cable softcore networks like Playboy and the Spice Channel followed suit.

0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 13>This year, I started my own distribution company, and I'm

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:50.080
<v Speaker 13>happy to say that we're doing quite well. We're black

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 13>owned company, and it's been a long time coming. I've

0:47:53.560 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 13>been able to achieve something that not many people of

0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:57.840
<v Speaker 13>color or ethnicity have been able to do in this

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:02.160
<v Speaker 13>industry or any industry. In a Marriora, specifically what I

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:06.840
<v Speaker 13>do or interracial videos as opposed to all white, all Asian,

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:10.160
<v Speaker 13>all Hispanic. You know, I don't feel that there should

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:10.800
<v Speaker 13>be a division.

0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Shawn Michaels is way more positive about the state of

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:18.719
<v Speaker 3>the porn industry than his peers, while also agreeing with

0:48:18.800 --> 0:48:22.080
<v Speaker 3>Jake Steed that black creatives need their own studios and

0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 3>own distribution companies. Madori ends up working an office job

0:48:26.840 --> 0:48:29.280
<v Speaker 3>at Shawn Michael's company later that year.

0:48:31.320 --> 0:48:33.879
<v Speaker 6>White people will never understand what we have to go through.

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<v Speaker 14>When I go shopping in Beverly Hills, I'm being watched

0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:38.839
<v Speaker 14>all over the store and I have a platinum card.

0:48:39.120 --> 0:48:41.279
<v Speaker 6>You will never understand what we have to go through.

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:46.759
<v Speaker 18>Blacks are always watching other blacks. We do that the

0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:49.239
<v Speaker 18>minute I put my name on the tape is directed

0:48:49.239 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 18>by I get letters. I'm so glad to see you

0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:56.200
<v Speaker 18>direct fuck the movie you directed it. That's what they're

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 18>happy about. They won't to see you come up, mister Mark.

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 6>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Director Sean Michaels wants to stretch his talents beyond porn,

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:09.560
<v Speaker 3>so he starts taking acting classes and trying to get

0:49:09.600 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 3>in the Screen Actors Guild, which doesn't normally accept porn performers.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm going to lease Strasburg, not because I want to

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:20.120
<v Speaker 13>lead the business, but because I want to do feature films.

0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:22.520
<v Speaker 13>I just want to get in there and act with

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:25.520
<v Speaker 13>the public out there that support me. Why not try

0:49:25.520 --> 0:49:28.439
<v Speaker 13>to support me on the mainstream side as well. It's

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:31.480
<v Speaker 13>worth a fucking try. You know, somebody's going to make

0:49:31.480 --> 0:49:35.560
<v Speaker 13>that crossover, and damn it, it might as well be me.

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:40.840
<v Speaker 3>In two thousand and four, Heather Hunter appears as a

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:44.960
<v Speaker 3>judge on a Hustler produced reality competition show called Can

0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:49.000
<v Speaker 3>You Be a Porn Star? Alongside fellow judge ginger Linn Allen.

0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:52.720
<v Speaker 3>The show airs on pay per view and pits twenty

0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:56.160
<v Speaker 3>eight female contestants against each other for a grand prize

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:59.160
<v Speaker 3>of a one year contract and one hundred thousand dollars.

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 3>The reality competition show is hosted by a former adult

0:50:03.640 --> 0:50:08.280
<v Speaker 3>performer and playboy model who goes by Mary Carey. Mary

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Carey ran for governor of California in the two thousand

0:50:11.480 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 3>and three gubernatorial recall special election or incumbent Governor Gray

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Davis was defeated by incumbent terminator Arnold Schwarzenegger. This election

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:26.840
<v Speaker 3>portends a future where celebrity and charisma will start to

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 3>take precedence over traditionally prized electoral qualities like competence and intelligence.

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:35.400
<v Speaker 3>While this trend was set in motion with the election

0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:39.760
<v Speaker 3>of President Ronald Reagan, it's the election of Austrian born

0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:44.080
<v Speaker 3>libertarian mega movie star Arnold Schwarzenegger to a high state

0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 3>office that predicts a future where the wheels of US

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:49.800
<v Speaker 3>politics will start to come off entirely.

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:55.400
<v Speaker 4>Look at Jenna Jamison. She wasn't a fearful woman, and

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 4>I think that's exactly what it takes, actually being in

0:50:58.719 --> 0:51:01.839
<v Speaker 4>touch with the power that women have over men when

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:03.080
<v Speaker 4>it comes to sexuality.

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<v Speaker 3>It's now the mid two thousands and porn is a

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:12.319
<v Speaker 3>four point three billion dollar industry, generating about half of

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:17.280
<v Speaker 3>Hollywood's reported yearly revenue of nine billion dollars. Jenna Jamison

0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:21.320
<v Speaker 3>has built a porn empire in her own name, first

0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:25.120
<v Speaker 3>at Wicked Pictures and now with her personal production company,

0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 3>Club Jenna. Stephen Hirsch's Vivid Entertainment company is netting a

0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 3>cool eighty million dollars a year. Hirsch lives in a

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:38.160
<v Speaker 3>one point six million dollar eighty one hundred and fifty

0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 3>square foot mansion in a gated community in the Santa

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 3>Susana Mountains with a pool and a water slide. He

0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:47.399
<v Speaker 3>has a three hundred and seven thousand dollars a year

0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:51.719
<v Speaker 3>suite at Staple Center called the Porn Box, reserved for him,

0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 3>his friends, and his porn star employees. Meanwhile, thirty year

0:51:56.600 --> 0:52:01.080
<v Speaker 3>old Jenna Jamison is at a crossroads to retire from

0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 3>the adult industry to have children with her husband, Jake Gerdina,

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:07.280
<v Speaker 3>But she knows that she can't afford to stop working

0:52:07.320 --> 0:52:09.520
<v Speaker 3>for too long, or the industry will just move on

0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:14.040
<v Speaker 3>to other stars. She's taking preliminary steps towards her planned

0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:18.360
<v Speaker 3>future by getting a breast reduction, taking her gigantic double

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:22.279
<v Speaker 3>d implants down to a tasteful sea cup. She's also

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:25.920
<v Speaker 3>starting to worry about how aging will affect her business

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:28.239
<v Speaker 3>that involves her body in appearance.

0:52:30.040 --> 0:52:33.440
<v Speaker 12>Our looks, pay our bills. I get botax and I

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:37.000
<v Speaker 12>love it. I'm very expressive and I'm trying to keep

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 12>lines from appearing. I did have a chin implant, and

0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:43.880
<v Speaker 12>I'm having breast reduction surgery. I'll get a full reduction

0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:44.960
<v Speaker 12>after i have children.

0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:49.440
<v Speaker 3>In two thousand and four, there's a great profile of

0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Jenna by writer Vanessa gregoriotis in a rolling stone with

0:52:53.200 --> 0:52:58.000
<v Speaker 3>Tom Cruise on the cover. It's called Jenna Jamison's Forbidden Desires.

0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:01.399
<v Speaker 3>Time to promote Jenna's news auto biography How to Make

0:53:01.440 --> 0:53:06.239
<v Speaker 3>Love Like a Porn Star. The writer visits Jenna in Scottsdale, Arizona,

0:53:06.480 --> 0:53:11.080
<v Speaker 3>and notes all of her obvious contradictions. Jenna doesn't display

0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 3>porn in her own house to keep her life work balance.

0:53:15.080 --> 0:53:18.720
<v Speaker 3>She shows Vanessa around the Neo italianate new build villa

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:21.600
<v Speaker 3>and complains about her dogs drinking out of the toilet

0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:25.839
<v Speaker 3>and peeing all over the house. Jenna and Jay look

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:30.600
<v Speaker 3>like any other two thousand zero new metal loving Arizonian couple.

0:53:31.400 --> 0:53:33.880
<v Speaker 3>The only sign in the house of Club Jenna the

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:36.880
<v Speaker 3>porn Empire that they run together is that Jay is

0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:39.680
<v Speaker 3>hunched over some computers, editing a scene where Jenna is

0:53:39.760 --> 0:53:42.840
<v Speaker 3>dressed in white Latex as a nurse. He jokes that

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:47.040
<v Speaker 3>they're submitting it to Sundance. The whole house is decorated

0:53:47.080 --> 0:53:51.600
<v Speaker 3>with collages Jenna made for Jay celebrating their love. She

0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:55.920
<v Speaker 3>complains about Hollywood people still treating her like a freak show.

0:53:57.719 --> 0:54:01.280
<v Speaker 12>I'm so unaffected by the whole frig in Hollywood scene.

0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:04.479
<v Speaker 12>Give me the job or shut the fuck up. I'm

0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:07.359
<v Speaker 12>not a show pony. I don't want to hang out

0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 12>with you and your friends, and I don't want to

0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:13.799
<v Speaker 12>leave a message on your answering machine. You've reached, Scott.

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:15.960
<v Speaker 12>He's busy with me right now.

0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:17.120
<v Speaker 13>Ugh.

0:54:19.800 --> 0:54:22.960
<v Speaker 3>At the peak of her porn career, famous enough for

0:54:23.040 --> 0:54:26.640
<v Speaker 3>a big multi page spread and Rolling Stone, Jenna is

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:31.480
<v Speaker 3>still not satisfied. Whenever she accomplishes one goal, she already

0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:34.920
<v Speaker 3>has her eye on another. She's got a new lifestyle

0:54:35.000 --> 0:54:40.719
<v Speaker 3>in mind Housewife. She's also starting to feel like the

0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:44.120
<v Speaker 3>porn industry has changed a lot since she started her

0:54:44.120 --> 0:54:48.400
<v Speaker 3>own career. The sex acts have gotten more hardcore, and

0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 3>the market has become so saturated with talent that it's

0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:53.239
<v Speaker 3>even harder to stand out.

0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:58.040
<v Speaker 12>I look at these new girls today, taking on six

0:54:58.200 --> 0:55:01.719
<v Speaker 12>guys and doing boukaqes. I think, what the hell are

0:55:01.719 --> 0:55:06.120
<v Speaker 12>they doing? These girls don't know that You've just start slow, baby,

0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:08.600
<v Speaker 12>and make them pay you more for each thing you do.

0:55:09.480 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 12>And my day you hardly had to have sex, let

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:13.560
<v Speaker 12>alone too.

0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:18.440
<v Speaker 3>Dix up your ass. At thirty years old, she is

0:55:18.480 --> 0:55:22.200
<v Speaker 3>already saying things like in my day about her twenties.

0:55:22.800 --> 0:55:25.279
<v Speaker 3>She's cut down her performing to a couple movies a

0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:28.640
<v Speaker 3>year with a stipulation that Jay be the only male talent.

0:55:30.400 --> 0:55:34.920
<v Speaker 3>After thoroughly exploring sexual exhibitionism, she now feels like taking

0:55:34.920 --> 0:55:38.440
<v Speaker 3>her clothes off professionally has become mundane and wants to

0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:40.160
<v Speaker 3>challenge herself in other ways.

0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 12>The fact is, I'm at a point in my life

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<v Speaker 12>where I don't want to be butt naked in front

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<v Speaker 12>of thirty people anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Like many people who just turned thirty, Jenna feels like

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<v Speaker 3>she's turned a corner into mature adulthood. She feels ready

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<v Speaker 3>to settle down into motherhood and a stable home life.

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<v Speaker 3>Even in Scottsdale, she gets recognized constantly, so she stays

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<v Speaker 3>home a lot, which is just how Jay likes it.

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<v Speaker 3>She's tired of being Jenna Jamison all the time and

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<v Speaker 3>wants to be Jenna Missoli again, albeit this time with

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of money and a horse. She plans to

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<v Speaker 3>get her signature heartbreaker tattoo lasered off her ass, cut

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<v Speaker 3>her hair into a fuck ass bob, maybe even legally

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<v Speaker 3>change her name to Jenna Gardina, and moves smoothly into

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<v Speaker 3>the next phase of her life. While she's the moneymaker

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<v Speaker 3>in the relationship, Jake Gardina takes care of the business

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<v Speaker 3>side and tends to Jenna's many moods. He makes sure

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<v Speaker 3>the Club Jenna website keeps posting enough Jena content to

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<v Speaker 3>satisfy fans and keep the money rolling in. But for Jenna,

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<v Speaker 3>shooting sexy photos has become a draining chore like any

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<v Speaker 3>other job. Her mind is elsewhere. She and Jay have

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<v Speaker 3>not yet been able to get pregnant, despite having a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of unprotected sex. She's been seeing fertility doctors and

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<v Speaker 3>looking into alternative medicine, but the thing she wants the

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<v Speaker 3>most remains out of her grasp and not in her control,

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<v Speaker 3>and she really really hates that. Every time she gets

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<v Speaker 3>her period, she feels like a total failure as a woman.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm trying to think positive, but sometimes I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>Jenna's book is a huge hit that spends six weeks

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<v Speaker 3>on the New York Times Bestsellers list. There's talk of

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<v Speaker 3>a film adaptation. Jenna wants Kate Hudson to play her,

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<v Speaker 3>although she says Kate would need stunt tits. Jenna keeps

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<v Speaker 3>expanding into other fields that require less of her vigorous

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<v Speaker 3>physical participation, video games, comic books, erotica. She writes an

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<v Speaker 3>advice column for the British men's magazine FHM for Him Magazine,

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<v Speaker 3>where she dispenses relationship and sex advice.

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<v Speaker 16>When my girlfriend goes out on girls' nights, she never

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<v Speaker 16>lets me tag along and keeps the plants top secret.

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<v Speaker 8>Is she cheating?

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<v Speaker 16>What could she be up to in the dark glen View, Illinois.

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<v Speaker 12>She could well be having females athletic sex of her

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<v Speaker 12>life with a richer, more handsome man than you. The

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<v Speaker 12>point is this, You either trust your girlfriend or you don't.

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<v Speaker 12>Everyone needs space. Enjoy the time of part with your

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<v Speaker 12>friends and see how she reacts to you being Captain sneaky.

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<v Speaker 12>If she freaks out, she's up to no good.

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<v Speaker 16>When I left for Iraq, I thought i'd miss my girlfriend,

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<v Speaker 16>but I don't. I'm thinking of dumping her. What's the

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<v Speaker 16>best way to break up without upsetting her heart of

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<v Speaker 16>steel the email.

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<v Speaker 12>I think you're fooling yourself about not missing her, and

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<v Speaker 12>you're building an emotional wall for yourself. It's nothing to

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<v Speaker 12>get hung up about. That's a natural defense for men.

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<v Speaker 12>You don't need to break up with a woman unless

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<v Speaker 12>you go to prison. Feel free to give in to

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<v Speaker 12>temptation while you're away. Be safe over there. You have

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<v Speaker 12>my love and support. The thought of all those guys

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<v Speaker 12>jacking off in one place gets me so hot.

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<v Speaker 3>One guy writes in asking how to get his girlfriend

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<v Speaker 3>to have a threesome. Jenna says, you let the girl

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<v Speaker 3>pick out the third person. Don't kiss that person on

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<v Speaker 3>the mouth, and ask yourself if you really want to

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<v Speaker 3>do it, because it won't be like the porn film

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<v Speaker 3>fantasy and could fuck up your relationship for real. Jenna

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<v Speaker 3>is not ashamed of her storied career, but she wants

0:59:49.240 --> 0:59:52.760
<v Speaker 3>to get out of porn before becoming a mother. She's

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<v Speaker 3>tired of being on all the time and fielding lude

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<v Speaker 3>comments and comments from strangers, both male and female, who

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<v Speaker 3>expect her to be the same in real life as

1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:06.000
<v Speaker 3>she is in her movies, but porn still pays the

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<v Speaker 3>bills for now, so she's hosting events and banking content

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<v Speaker 3>in advance for when she goes on a permanent maternity leave.

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<v Speaker 3>She wants to leave porn on top, but life has

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<v Speaker 3>other plans for Jenna Jamison. Next time. On Jena World

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<v Speaker 3>episode eleven, Pirates, a director named Ali June starts Digital

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<v Speaker 3>Playground Studio and makes the biggest budget porn film of

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<v Speaker 3>all time. Jenna World is an iHeartRadio production executive produced

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<v Speaker 3>by Anna Hosnier and Becco Ramos, supervising, produced by Bei Wang,

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<v Speaker 3>produced by Victor Wright, script editing by Jonathan Mills, engineered

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<v Speaker 3>by Graham Gibson, and edited by Rory Gagan. Today's episode

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<v Speaker 3>of Jenna World featured Emily Yoshida as Linda Wong, Sydney

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<v Speaker 3>Battle as Heather Hunter, Iffy Wataway as Shawn Michaels, Becca

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<v Speaker 3>Ramos as Vanessa del Rio, Jason Walliner as Bruce Gowers,

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<v Speaker 3>and Paul Thomas, Sara Sobsey as Susan Wattling from Chino,

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<v Speaker 3>Ian Grant as Rick Alley, Peter Cellini as Andrew Dice,

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<v Speaker 3>Clay Brian Moses as Eddie Murphy. Yasser Lester as Spike Lee,

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<v Speaker 3>Jed Nick mayerd as Madori, Blake Wexler as Tom sd

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<v Speaker 3>Mort Burke as Dax Couner, Carvel Wallace as Jake Steed,

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<v Speaker 3>Freddie Gibbs as mister Marcus Grant Creator as In the

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<v Speaker 3>Dark and Heart of Steel, and Lauren ser Video as

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<v Speaker 3>Jenna Jamison Oh