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Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Becca Tilly and Tanya rad and I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio and two time People's Choice Award winning podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, We're scrubbing in. Happy Monday. Happy Monday. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can tell, because that was

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Speaker 1: a very enthusiastic Happy Monday. But I am on my

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Speaker 1: menstrul in my menstrual phase, and I am sparking a

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Speaker 1: different tune. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. It hasn't

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Speaker 1: been like earth changing so far, but I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: lie like the bad days have been shorter. Oh that's great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure as time goes on every month it will be.

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Speaker 1: I'm in it for the long game. I'm in it

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Speaker 1: for the long game. We love to hear that. Um,

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Speaker 1: how was your weekend? We can it was really great.

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Speaker 1: How was your weekend? My weekend was great. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: when when I first saw you, we were like, how

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Speaker 1: did you have a good weekend? And in my mind

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Speaker 1: we were saying, like the weekend to go by so fast,

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Speaker 1: yet they feel long in the moment, if that makes sense. Mark,

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Speaker 1: do you have that? Yeah, I guess that's true. You're like,

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Speaker 1: I'll crap with Monday morning already. Meanwhile, Saturday afternoon, you

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Speaker 1: were like, when you like, you have full a full

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Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday, so forty eight hours to just have

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Speaker 1: a weekend, and we're like doing things. Again, I can't

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Speaker 1: even explain to you. So I went to Disney Sprinkle.

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Speaker 1: She had about fifty people at this sprinkle, and I

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Speaker 1: was living my best life. Like I felt like again,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I've never done drugs of sorts, but I

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Speaker 1: on this like euphoric trip of seeing people that I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen in so long. Like I was like, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, I haven't seen you, and like hugging people

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Speaker 1: and it was just so nice. I know, Like I

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Speaker 1: actually like I got home um that night, Red Star

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Speaker 1: and I had a barbecue with my parents and I

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Speaker 1: was like, I knew I was like excited about the sprinkle,

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Speaker 1: but I was just like it was more fun than

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Speaker 1: I was expecting ever to have at a sprinkle, And

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Speaker 1: now like want to throw like a rador birthday party.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we should do a big birthday literally, like

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Speaker 1: I don't know, because it was just so fun. Do

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Speaker 1: you want to explain what a sprinkle is for? Anybody

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Speaker 1: is that common knowledge what a sprinkle is, because we

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Speaker 1: had to go through this in the Morning show that

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Speaker 1: not everyone news. God, it's like kind of like a

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Speaker 1: party for like a baby shower party. Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: baby shower, but for your second child, well for her

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Speaker 1: child after your first one. You have sprinkles. They're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be small, but because you don't need as much

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Speaker 1: stuff right right right, because like you might hear sprinkle

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Speaker 1: and think of like a cupcake sprinkle, but this is

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Speaker 1: more of a water sprinkles. You're sprinkled with gifts and

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Speaker 1: where to drought here in California, So sprinkles are the

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Speaker 1: way to go right now? Yes, exactly. Yeah. It looks fun,

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Speaker 1: it looks really cute. Yeah I we. So Hayley performed

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Speaker 1: And I overserved myself because there was tequila and like

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Speaker 1: amount of alcohol. So I filled up like half the

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Speaker 1: And just like I didn't like do things inside your

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Speaker 1: an outward expression of an internal feeling called excitement. Fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Becca so good and so um. But it's so funny

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Speaker 1: So Mark was saying Mark had family in town, and

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Speaker 1: previous successes that they've had with other artists, and I

422
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 1: was like, this is it, this is it. And I

423
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 1: wrote back to them and I was like, yes, this

424
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: is amazing. That's worked together. And so we started working together,

425
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: and six months later I got my first placement. Then

426
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: I got a placement like a month after that, a

427
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: month after that, a month after that, they just started

428
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: coming and coming. And I realized this as I'm watching back,

429
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 1: because I'm rewatching all the seasons, right, I was like,

430
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: wait a minute, they used this song so close, and

431
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: then I was like, two episodes later, I was like

432
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: another one, and then an episode another, and then season three.

433
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: That's where it all hit for me. Season three, there

434
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 1: was like four songs on that on that season, and

435
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 1: the season finale they used a song called keep Breathing.

436
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 1: And so at this point I knew that Gray's wanted

437
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: an unreleased song. They wanted only unreleased songs in their

438
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: season finale because they wanted to release a record right

439
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 1: of all these songs that were only seen at Grays Anatomy.

440
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: So I was like yeah, I was like, okay, I

441
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: willed it to happen the first time, and I'm gonna

442
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 1: will this to happen. So I wrote this song called

443
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 1: key Breathing. I had no idea what the script was about.

444
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know what I mean, I knew the plot

445
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: line of what was going on at the time, but

446
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know where it was going. So I wrote

447
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,119
Speaker 1: the song, you know, and it's just about persevering and

448
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: breathing and continuing going on and you know, definitely about

449
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: things that were going on in my life. But also

450
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: I was like, these are themes that the show, you know,

451
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: plays around a lot with. And I remember they were like,

452
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: we love it, We're going to use it. We're not

453
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 1: going to use it as in the very ending of

454
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: the episode, we're going to use it somewhere in the middle,

455
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 1: and I was like, good, amazing, done, I got it,

456
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: you know, And I remember thinking, well, would have been

457
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: great to get the end that you want those last

458
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: few minutes, but you know, when I'm not going be greedy.

459
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: And then like three weeks before they cut the edit,

460
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: they were like, we made some shifts and we're taking

461
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: your song. It was like a four minute song. They

462
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: turned it into six and a half minutes and used

463
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: it as the last six and a half minutes of

464
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: season three, the epic where she's oh, we can't do it,

465
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over again, and then

466
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: just when you think it's gonna end, it keeps going

467
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: and they go into another scene I think where like

468
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: the chief is looking off into the distance or something

469
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: like I don't know, and then it ends like this

470
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: epic way with my voice, and I was just like,

471
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? And that night my lyrics and

472
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: my name were the number one to most google thing

473
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: in the country because that show. At that point, it

474
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: was like, that's such a fever pitch right when on

475
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: Good Morning America and that stay and they talked about it,

476
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 1: and I was so nervous and like that really was

477
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: the beginning, you know, the beginning of me having a career.

478
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: And I would go and Grace was so big in

479
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: Europe too, that I would go to Europe and they're

480
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: like we love Grays innat of in Germany in England

481
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: and so um, I really oh so so much. And

482
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: so it's it's really like very sweet and kind of

483
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: full circle to like come back to this and be

484
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: part of the finale again with with my new single

485
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I just I love being part of

486
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: the Grays Anatomy world. I mean I sang at one

487
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: of them, one of the was it some somebody in

488
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: the like production department. I sang at their wedding. It

489
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: was someone's house wedding. I was like ingrained into like

490
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: the Grays Anatomy fabric um and I'm so it's it's

491
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 1: I'm it's one of those shows where if you fall off,

492
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: then you fall off. It's like so hard to jump

493
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: back into it. And so every year that goes by,

494
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, this is the year. This is the year,

495
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: and then this year again, this is my superstitious stuff.

496
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: I was like, if I start watching it, they're going

497
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: to use to begin again. In the finale. So I

498
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: started watching it and now I'm I'm you know, of

499
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: to season eight and then use it. I was like,

500
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: my weird grace had me like, your manifestation really is

501
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: and I do I have like these like weird, like

502
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: little manifestations with this show. But it seems to work

503
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: so far. Yeah, I'm like, no, I gotta finish because

504
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm like deep into season and like there's so much

505
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: going on. I'm so invested. I watched a couple of

506
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: episodes every night. Basically, I need to channel your manifestation skills.

507
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: Do you make vision boards or do you just do

508
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: it mentally? No? And you know, here's another thing I

509
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: haven't told many people. This is kind of weird. With

510
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: Keep Breathing, which was on season the season three finale,

511
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: I listened to my My It was like a rough

512
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: cut of it. I listened to it over and over

513
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: and were in my car when I drove to work.

514
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: I used to work in a children's theater camp and

515
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: I would put it in the car and just listened

516
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: to it all the way there, and then I listened

517
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: to all the way home. And my theory was like,

518
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: if I just keep listening to it, they'll use it.

519
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: It's so weird. I have like this weird superstitious stuff

520
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 1: with with with Um. It's probably with other things too,

521
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: but I feel it really coming out with grace, Like

522
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: committing to watch this many seasons of the television show.

523
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: It's really intense, you know, yeah, we know, Like so

524
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: I could drop off, but I can't come so far.

525
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 1: And now, and now that I saw the finale, I'm like,

526
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 1: it's even more incentive to get there. But it's a

527
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: lot of seasons you've got. So I've been watching since

528
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: it started, Like I have been a loyal viewer, like

529
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: Thursday nights weekly since it started. So Tanya, when wasn't

530
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: like four years ago, it was New Year's Eve going

531
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: in whatever, going into like nineteen or nineteen, going into

532
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: like two thousand, going into like two thousands eighteen or something.

533
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: It was New Year's Eve. Such a loser. I had

534
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: no plans. It was like December thirty one, and everyone's like,

535
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: what are you doing for New Year's Eve? And I

536
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna go home and I'm gonna start

537
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: Gray's Anatomy from season one, episode one, And I started

538
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: it that night and I watched I think it was

539
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: up to season I think or know, like thirteen or

540
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: something like that, maybe fourteen. Um, I watched from one

541
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: to fourteen in a matter of like. It was weird.

542
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: It was fast. Six months. It's all I did. I

543
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: had no social life. I didn't leave, Like I would

544
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: go to work and then I would just come home

545
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: and watch graze Awtomy until like I went to bed.

546
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: It was like sick, and then I got caught up,

547
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: and so here I am today. But yeah, what I

548
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: were trying to say is we get the feeling like

549
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: you want to. I'm not. I'm a little far behind that.

550
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm a little far I'm not as intense. But I

551
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: probably started watching it three months ago. So if I

552
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: started watching three months, I'm at season. Yeah, you're doing

553
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: some good work. You're doing some good work. I'm not

554
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I slowed down once I watched the finale,

555
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: so a week ago. So in the last five days,

556
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: I've slowed a little bit. Yeah, you're gonna start slowing

557
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: a real bad around my season, like twelve thirteen. Things

558
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: get slow in season twelve. And I'm not totally sure

559
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: which ones, but there there's a couple, there are a

560
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: couple of slow season was done a little bit, but

561
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: it's okay, you can okay. I feel like my favorite

562
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: moment is my favorite episode is this It is so creepy,

563
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: but is the one with the guy with the gun

564
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: the shooting episodes, Like, I know, it's so good, one

565
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: of the best, like of any show I've watched, one

566
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: of the best season finales I've ever watched. Daily with

567
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: the with the When When when was Charles Charles? Yeah,

568
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: I know, I know on the regular. Well, I mean

569
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: you're so wait okay, if keep breathing. So what was

570
00:30:54,360 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: your first song ever that they chose? What was it? So?

571
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: What I've been doing also is filming every time it happens,

572
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: And I have a folder on my phone, like a

573
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: compilation such a loser that I wanted a compilation? Well,

574
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: like they make one for you. Yeah. How long have

575
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: you been dating your boyfriend Will Chase? He played Luke

576
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: Wheeler on Nashville. We've been together since the beginning of

577
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: Oh My, you know what happened? It's the old so

578
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: so like like we say, all right, you know, anniversaries

579
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: are sort of funky, but we're like January eleventh is

580
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: sort of what we say is that from when you

581
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: met or from when you became official. We met, and

582
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: I don't really remember meeting, but there's like photographic evidence

583
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: of us a gala event. We're both like great impact

584
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: we made each other. But we were friends for a

585
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: little bit before we got together, for like a year

586
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: and then you were like, maybe this is he's making

587
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: dinner right now. I can smell him cooking in the

588
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: air fryars hungry. So what's the anniversary date? Is it

589
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: that like the near first that's like when we were like,

590
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: we like each other, We're going to take a chance

591
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: because you have to pick a day, right, Like we

592
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: were like talking and seeing each other for a little

593
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: bit before that, but we were like, what's the day

594
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: if we're going to pick a day, And it was

595
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: the day that when I went to Nashville to do

596
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: some writing and we like actually like kissed for the

597
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: first time, I hung out for the first time, like

598
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, um, And so we're like,

599
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: well that's and then you know, months later, we like,

600
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: this is a good day. If we're going to pick

601
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: a day. This feels like the right Like we weren't

602
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: fully progressed and we never said like this is our day.

603
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: But I felt like I like that one eleven, he said, January,

604
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: love it, it's a good day. One eleven. Yeah, I'm

605
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: not really big and I'm not like a I'm not

606
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: an anniversary person. What's your sign? What's your zodiac sign?

607
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: Sagittarius and what's he September twelve. I don't know what

608
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: is it is that maybe my big thing are birthdays

609
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: and Christmas. Christmas is consistently the same, so that's easy,

610
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: are too? Yeah. I struggle with birthdays, to be honest,

611
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: like because I unless it's someone that's just like consistently

612
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: like close in my life, I really rely on social

613
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: media for the reminder unfortunately. Well I mean like in

614
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: my relationship, like like in my relationship, okay, like the

615
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: things you and that's yeah. Side note, he's not a Libra,

616
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: He's a Virgo, Marcus saying that he is a Virgo.

617
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: In fact, I don't know much about Virgo and Sagittarius

618
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: together as a couple. That's why I remained a little

619
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: bit silent. But it's into saying yeah, and I'd just

620
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: like to know, like, you know, who are anniversary people?

621
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: What you do on your anniversary? Do you celebrate it

622
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: every year once a month. Temmy and I are very

623
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: different because I really could care lest Like I asked

624
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: about science as if I know anything, and then people

625
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: tell me and I'm like cool, but like I have

626
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: no follow up. I just know that sagittarius Is are

627
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: supposed to be um Like every time I've read any

628
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: description about a Sagittaries, I was like, Oh, that does

629
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: seem like me. Do you like adopted? Like did you

630
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: kind of morph into stuff with your boyfriend like you?

631
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't. I hate to say the term like a chameleon,

632
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: but you can kind of be a chameleon, Like you

633
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: can really adapt to whoever you're around. I'll tell you

634
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: that I can. But young ones, I'll give you some advice.

635
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: I feel like what I what I have done, and

636
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: what I had done in the past in past relationships,

637
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: is sort of minimize myself and kind of become too

638
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: much a little bit of the other person and lose

639
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: yourself a little bit. And I feel like I've I've

640
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: been that way in relationships and partnerships and working relationships.

641
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: And the older I get, the more I realize that

642
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: that's not really the greatest asset to It's there's one

643
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 1: thing to kind of go with the flow and to

644
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: kind of mesh with people. Well it's another thing to

645
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: sort of lose yourself. And and I think that's that

646
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: might be something. I don't know if that's a Sagittarius thing,

647
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: but I feel like that was something that I struggled with,

648
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: was sort of, um, maintaining my bigness, you know, not

649
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: minimizing and not absorbing other people's characteristics. But that is

650
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: also something that I do. Little things like like little

651
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: like hand movements that people do, like I will mimic

652
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: that and I will put it into my like my

653
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: like my friend Chelsea she does this sometime, like she

654
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: like I just take my thinking and I like turn

655
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: it this way, and so now I do that with

656
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: my hand. No, well, it's really it's really interesting. And

657
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: but that you're aware of that because that is a

658
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: very Sagittarius trait. You can like, when sagittariuses date anybody,

659
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: they really just kind of adapt to whoever they're dating,

660
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: and they don't have a strong sense of self. And

661
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: so it's interesting that you recognize that about yourself because

662
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: I definitely have I definitely have have have dealt with

663
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: that in the past. But I think in just getting

664
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: older and being and just being in different relationships and

665
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: going to therapy, like you realize, oh, I have to

666
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: I have to like embrace the power and the majesty

667
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: that is me and everything that I have to offer,

668
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: and and run alongside someone as opposed to like jumping

669
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: on their back or like morphing into them and going

670
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: at the same pace. Like I can have my own pace.

671
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: We can have different paces and still make this work,

672
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: you know. So that's something that I'm definitely the older

673
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: I get, the more I understand. Well, it feels like

674
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: you're doing something right. I mean, you've been together since

675
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: so feel solid to me. I feel like, I don't

676
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: even know, like six years. It's six years and we

677
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: were together almost every single day for like a year.

678
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: Yeah over COVID Yeah durn yeah. I mean if it

679
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: couples who made it out of COVID strong, they have

680
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: potential to stay together for a long long time. I

681
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: think we were. We both we both like found our

682
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: groove separately and together. Like he did what he was

683
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: like working on his projects. I was kind of working

684
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: on my stuff, and then we would come together and

685
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: like like how normal people are, you know, like you

686
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: go to work, you come back, you have dinner, watching

687
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: TV together, or you talk whatever. We kind of figured

688
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: out a routine where we work, because at first we

689
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,720
Speaker 1: were just like watching CNN and on the couch together

690
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: like sad all day long. And I was like, this

691
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: is so depressing. And then we both kind of like

692
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: figured out, like how are we going to not be

693
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: in each other's faces every day? You know? And I

694
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: think it was a very romantic time. Like one of

695
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: my other really good friends just started dating somebody and

696
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: they were like, we're like in our little lovedness and

697
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I can see how that might be.

698
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: How it is at first, but when even over like

699
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: five years, you know, you can't be with them four

700
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: and seven, it becomes ridiculous. And so we definitely had

701
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: like our own stuff, and luckily we have the you know,

702
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: the space in our home to be able to have

703
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: like our own existence and then come together when we

704
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: wanted to. UM. But yeah, it's it's been a long time.

705
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy. Actually it's amazing. Yeah, it is amazing,

706
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: and you should be proud of that, both of you

707
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: and UM your song to begin again, the one that's

708
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: in this the seventh season seventeen finale of Grays. It

709
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: is so beautiful and you're like, as soon as your

710
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: voice comes in, it is just like taking in like

711
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: fresh air. Like the only way I can describe it,

712
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: like when I leave l at and go up to

713
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: the mountains or something in the air is different, like

714
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: that's how your voice sounds. And then Zane's voice, I mean,

715
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: it's just like beautiful, his voice, his whole trip. He's

716
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: an interesting guy, although I've never met him. I don't

717
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: know if you know. Do you know that like the

718
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: scandal that I caused, No no, no, but we love

719
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: a scandal here for the podcast. Wait with scandal, it's

720
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: just like embarrassing. Um okay. So the way that he

721
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: and I got together is that his people reached out

722
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: to my people, literally, his manager and my manager beginning

723
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: of and was like, Zane is a big fan of Ingrad,

724
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: would love to work with her. And I'm like Zane, Zane,

725
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: Zane like of one direction. And my manager was like yeah,

726
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, weird, but yeah, next time we

727
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: have a project, we'll reach out to him. But then

728
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: COVID hit and I was just creatively not really in

729
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: it for a yeah. Um, and then I wrote to

730
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: begin again in January, I was feeling hopeful with the

731
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: election and vaccines are coming and like I was just

732
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: like moved to write the song. So I wrote the

733
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: song and I was like, oh, it was like one

734
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: of the first songs I've written in a long time.

735
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is a duet. It feels

736
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: like it's a duet. Remember when Zane reached out like

737
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: ten months ago, let's read back out and see if

738
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: if he's so interested in what he's doing during COVID,

739
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: you know. And he actually responded really quickly, or his

740
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: manager did, and and said he loves it, send us

741
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: the track and we'll record. And then within a month

742
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: he recorded the vocals, sent them back. They were amazing,

743
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: and we started mixing and um did a video and

744
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: it all just happened without he and I ever communicating.

745
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: Y'all never texted or in nothing. And I said, I

746
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: talked to his manager a bunch, and I was like,

747
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: let him know that if he wants to, like, you know,

748
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: here's my phone number or here's my email, like no pressure,

749
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: but like and she's she basically was like he's just

750
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: a very private, shy guy. Um, which makes sense that

751
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: like he would read, he also just doesn't do he

752
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: doesn't live by other people's rules, like he is super

753
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: super famous. He reached out his people reached out to me,

754
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: somebody who was I'm not super famous. I have some fame,

755
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: I have some notoriety, but you know, I'm not at

756
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: like Xane level. Right, So for him to want to

757
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: work with me right there, it's not a red flag

758
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: in a bad way. It's a red flag in that

759
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: he's like, I want to work with artists that I like,

760
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: not necessarily that are going to bring me to a

761
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: higher level. Um. And so I think he just is

762
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: a is a is a person who just does the

763
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 1: unexpected sort of or does what what he feels like doing.

764
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: And also it's very very private and I think very shy.

765
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: And so yeah, we never everything was communicated through her.

766
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: She was like, he loves the song, he's so excited,

767
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: big fan, all the stuff. So I was like, I'm

768
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: not going to pressure the guy had talked to me,

769
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 1: you know, like he's obviously like has a kid, he's

770
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: super famous, you talk to me about him all the time,

771
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: Like it's probably like a whole existence that I have

772
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: no idea what this is like. So then I was like,

773
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: he gave me his vocals, like thank you, that's amazing.

774
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: So on my I have a Patreon live stream with

775
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: like super fans right that I feel very safe talking

776
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: in this group of people had a live stream and

777
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: I was talking about about somebody was asking about Saint

778
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: and I said, you know, telling the story about how

779
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: like he's very private and we've we've never actually spoken,

780
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: and and I said something like, you know, he's really private,

781
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: he's he's got a kid, he got he's married. Just

782
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: threw it away, right and kept going, kept going, finished

783
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: the podcast. I finished the live stream, had dinner, was

784
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: watching TV with my friend, wasn't looking at my phone.

785
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: Opened up Instagram two hours later and my d m

786
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: s and like emails and I'm like, what what's happening?

787
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: Was happening He's not married? Oh yeah, he was married.

788
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: And somebody in my safe circle of my of my

789
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 1: you know Patreon you know fan group, was a zane

790
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: person who was probably just like signed up for this

791
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: because they wanted like crumbs of san wrote out exactly

792
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: what I said, posted it on Twitter, and it went

793
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 1: like crazy viral and everyone it was like trending topics.

794
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: Singer Michaelson says, you know, bills the beans about Zane

795
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh no, no, no, no, I'm like

796
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: this is so bad like this I didn't know, I

797
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, talked to his manager and she's like,

798
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: don't worry. This kind of stuff happens all the time.

799
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: Believe me, They're used to it. And I was like, no,

800
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: but I don't want to bring any sort of like

801
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: discomfort to this couple. I don't want to bring any

802
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,280
Speaker 1: So I went on Instagram and I was like, hey, guys,

803
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: so uh not married. As far as I know, I

804
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: don't know him. I'm sorry I said anything. Forgive me.

805
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: You know. Everyone was very sweet and was like, oh,

806
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: you clowned us and all this stuff that I don't

807
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: understand what they're talking about. And I was like, you know,

808
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: one person was like she she wanted us. She's like

809
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: saying I did it on purpose. I was like, oh

810
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: my god, no, Like this is like mortifying to me,

811
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: Like I don't like attention, and that especially not like

812
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: so much attention all of a sudden like focused on me,

813
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: and and and and then like a gossipy way. I

814
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: was like so gross to me. And so then the

815
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: next big trending topic on Twitter was like Ingram Michaelson

816
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: admits she's wrong, and like they're pictures of me like

817
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: looking sad from posting on my Instagram, like crying after

818
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: after we did a reading of my musical of the Notebook,

819
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: like weeping, and I took a picture of myself and

820
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: that was the picture there, like she's apologetic about this

821
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: whole thing, and I was like, first of all, I'm

822
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: not bad, y bad, but they didn't really care, and

823
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: also I'm not crying over it, but it just was

824
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: so the whole thing was just like so mortifying and

825
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: so embarrassing, and it made me realize the amount of

826
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: eyeballs that they have on other people. It must you

827
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: can't do or say anything without people just jumping on

828
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: it and then like spreading the word to the whole

829
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: entire world. So it made me realized, like that is

830
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: not a life that I am destined, Like I can't.

831
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: I don't want that level of fame or attention like

832
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: that seems like like unfathomable to me. Um so like

833
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: so much props to anybody in that world and to

834
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 1: people who can handle that sort of attention. It's just

835
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: like so intense. And it wasn't even like negative attention.

836
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: It was just like attention. But I was so embarrassed

837
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: for like days I could. I kept thinking about and

838
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: like shuddering. Do you have those moments where you're like,

839
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god, yes, like the morning

840
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: the morning after you wake up after a blackout and

841
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, I sent that text Like

842
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 1: that was basically like me, like appreciating anxiety, where you're

843
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: just like why did I do that? How did I

844
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: do that? And I didn't know. I just figured, you know, yeah,

845
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: you were like it was such a like you said

846
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: a Thorawa comment like yeah, he's private with his wife

847
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: and kids, and it's like yeah, like never knowing what

848
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: that was going to lead to. No, It's it was

849
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: so it's so crazy. It's so crazy. But I'll tell

850
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: you that his fans, the fandom are so sweet. They

851
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: have like radio campaigns, like they're like at please play

852
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: to begin again, you know, saying mat like at ingram

853
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: mine like all this, like they have like and they'll

854
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: go like radio station by radio station and they're like,

855
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 1: come on, guys, let's get this trending up the charts,

856
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: and it's like they're so cute, and um, there's so

857
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: many of them crazy. So in some ways I was like, okay,

858
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: I can get like why you would like this much

859
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: love coming at you was really amazing, but also at

860
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: the same time, if it turns at all, I feel like, oh, yes,

861
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: pretty wild. And it was like I was like, oh,

862
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: this is what Taylor Swiff feels like. For like a second,

863
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: I was like, this is what it must be like. Okay,

864
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: you brought up something I was going to bring up.

865
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: So right before they told us that you were going

866
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: to come on the podcast, I was talking about how

867
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: someone asked me, like my favorite song from album, and

868
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: I said out of the Woods and Clean, it's like

869
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: a toss up. And someone message me and they're like,

870
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: you have to listen to Ingered Michaelson's cover of Clean

871
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: on YouTube because um, like you're a big fan of

872
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: Gray's Anatomy and Taylor Slept, and so I listened to it,

873
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: and like literally right after that, our producer sent us

874
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: and talked about you coming on the podcast, and I

875
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: was like, I'm going to bring that up because you

876
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: said something at the beginning before you started the song

877
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: that she had played it for you and you asked

878
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: her like if you could have a song or so

879
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: so dumb. We're friends for like a hot minute, and

880
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: I remember, um, she had me over her apartment in

881
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: New York and she was playing me a bunch of

882
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: songs in my name nine and clean was one of them,

883
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, this song was

884
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: so good. Can you send it to me? Not thinking

885
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: that she's like huge and famous and has you know,

886
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: you can't just be sending demos or like you know,

887
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: unreleased songs out obviously, like she probably has like firewalls

888
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: up everything. To say. That album in particular, I remember

889
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: when it came out. She it was like somebody from

890
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: her management team had to come with like the thing

891
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: on the thing with like specific dongles for each of

892
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: us to listen to it from the same Like it

893
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: was like under lock and key, like a man and

894
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: a suitcase. So I was like, can you give me

895
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: can I have? Can you send it to me so

896
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: I can listen to it. She's like, no, you know,

897
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't evenmber what she said. I didn't remember she

898
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: was like trying to be nice, but probably like are

899
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: you kidding you? Right? But I loved it so much.

900
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: And then as soon as that record came out, I

901
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: just listened to it like over and over and over again.

902
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: Um yeah, so dumb. So I was so naive. I

903
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: just yeah, I loved that. Because I loved that. You

904
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: were just like, yeah, can you just send that on

905
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: over so I can listen to it. Just email it

906
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: to me, don't just put it in my drop box,

907
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: right or just like texted to me. Text me. Then, Peter,

908
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: the thing is that she's very um approachable, so you

909
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: kind of forget, you know. She she was saying we

910
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: hear songs from her hadn't come out yet, and we

911
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: were dancing around listening to it, so I like, you know,

912
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 1: I just like forgot who she was or where I

913
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: was for a moment. And after the fact, I was like, right,

914
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: probably not going to get the unreleased song emailed to you, Ingrid, Well,

915
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: I love the come. I was like, I can't believe

916
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: I have never seen this before, Like being a fan

917
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: of both of you and that song, I was like,

918
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: how where have I been that I've never seen this?

919
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: But um, you also yeah, it's a great song you

920
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: brought up, um that you're doing. There's a Broadway adaptation

921
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: of the Notebook and you're doing the music for it. Yeah.

922
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm writing the music and lyrics and I've been working

923
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: at it since so like two years after you met

924
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: your boyfriend. Here we go, um, and yeah, it's been

925
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: really amazing. We were supposed to be probably like be

926
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: on stage now exact COVID happens. Everything got pushed back, um,

927
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: and we're getting we're gearing up to get back into

928
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: some workshops and and out of town stuff, and so

929
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: it's all like full steam ahead. But we've had a

930
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: lot of time to kind of reflect and and I'm

931
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: actually grateful because I feel like we've been able to

932
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: change it in ways that I think are going to

933
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: be so impactful and so important, because I think we

934
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: are all so fundamentally changed after on so many levels, um,

935
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: that it was almost impossible. It's not impossible, but it

936
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: was for me impossible to kind of tell the story

937
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: in the same way. And when I say that, I

938
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: can't give too much away, but it's like the story

939
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: is always the story of Ali and Noah, but there

940
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: are certain things that we're doing that, I think hit

941
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: differently than they would have hit before. I can't really

942
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: say it's like like subtlety is just you know when

943
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: you see it, you'll understand. So when I mean, are

944
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: they thinking like this year, like because if it's gonna be, yeah,

945
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: I can't wait for um. Yeah, I'm like, what are

946
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: we in? Yeah, it's gonna be. I'm hoping hopefully, you

947
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: know meddal to end of two. That's I'm sort of

948
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: saying that without anyone telling me. That's just like my

949
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: own map, my own like wishing that it's going to

950
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: be like end of that trending on Twitter for you

951
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: over and over again every night. I can manifest it

952
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: like that's that's a labor of love. Though that's a

953
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: long time to be in. Yeah, musicals take a really

954
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 1: really long time. And also COVID on top of it

955
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,280
Speaker 1: has has added an extra year and a half. But yeah,

956
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot of just it's not like writing an album.

957
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: You know, there's so many people involved. There's you know,

958
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: you're literally changing things as actors are saying them on

959
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: you know, in a workshop you're like, oh that line

960
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: doesn't work anymore, and now I have to change this

961
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 1: line in this line and this line, and then this song,

962
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: this song doesn't even work here anymore, Throw that song away,

963
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: write a new song. It's like this evolving process. I

964
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: just scrapped like a huge song last week and started

965
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: to write another one because it doesn't make sense anymore

966
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: for the lead one of the characters. Um. But yeah,

967
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: it's it's really interesting. And I really love seeing other

968
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: people singing my music. There's something that's just very um,

969
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: very uh like charges my battery, so to speak. Like

970
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: I've performed so much, I've seen myself so much, you know,

971
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 1: performing on stage, and I've just I'm heard my own voice.

972
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: It's to hear other people interpret it is really incredible.

973
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: And and I'm never going to stop making records and

974
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: doing my my my, my own you know, singer songwriter

975
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 1: pop thing. But I gotta say that writing for other people,

976
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: writing for musicals and theater and TV and movies and

977
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: things like that is really I've been doing a lot

978
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 1: of that, and it's like so satisfying, it's so so cool.

979
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: So I hope they do another musical episode of Grays

980
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: and then I can write people. So Okay, we have

981
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: a lot of opinions about that episode, so maybe if

982
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: you're a part of it. Well, I loved it. I

983
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: think anything that Sada Ramirez sings, that's how you say

984
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: it Sada. Yes, I almost have been calling her Sarah

985
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: this whole time. I think a lot of people do,

986
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: but it Sara Sat. I know from people who have

987
00:54:55,840 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 1: have worked with them that they like to be called that.

988
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: That's like how you pronounced the name. Yeah, like Spanish,

989
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: you know, right, rolling a little bit sata, but it

990
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: sounds like a d A when I say it's sad. Um.

991
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: Anything that they were saying it was like gorgeous. Okay,

992
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: I can agree with that, but the rest of the

993
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: cast got a little owen, went a little hard. One

994
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: needed you to just like dial it back a tiny bit.

995
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: But like it was so endearing. Um. I think when

996
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: you're watching anything that's like musical theater related, you have

997
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: to just shake off the like there's gonna be there's

998
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 1: gonna be, for lack of a better word, it's gonna

999
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: be a little cheesy. And as long as you accept that,

1000
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: I think it makes everything a lot easier. Well, I

1001
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: felt like Sada Ramirez like those scenes were so powerful

1002
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: and then it would go into like Derek and Meredith,

1003
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: and they were almost like laughing because you could feel

1004
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: that they were just like, I'm not a singer. Like

1005
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: why I think that that of stuff worked was because

1006
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: everything that that that they were in was like, um,

1007
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: with my dream perspective, Like, so it worked. They weren't like, really,

1008
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: they're doing stuff, But I think it was from their

1009
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: point of view or something. I don't know. I thought

1010
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: I thought it was like it was a really brave

1011
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: and bold move, and I think some of some of

1012
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: the songs worked a lot better than others a diplomatic

1013
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: way to say, really when when Sara was singing, um,

1014
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,839
Speaker 1: the Brandy Carlisle song, Yes the story is like one

1015
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: of my Yeah, that's like one of my definitely crying.

1016
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: So I feel overall that that episode really, Like I

1017
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: just love musical as soon. I'm such a sucker excited

1018
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: for the night. I'm very excited for West Side Story

1019
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: starting to like people want to see them more and

1020
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: more so, and that's like where that's where I went

1021
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: to school for so my first true love and so

1022
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: I'm just very excited that this is becoming more mainstream. Well,

1023
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: I would just like to say after this podcast, I'm

1024
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: an even bigger fan of you, and and I'm excited

1025
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: for everything that you're coming out with and working on

1026
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: and whenever it may happen, the Notebook and everything Grey's

1027
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: Anatomy new musical episode. If you're a part of that

1028
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: and doing it, I can get on board. Yeah, thank you.

1029
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: You definitely have to come back on when you finish,

1030
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: when you catch up to current current episodes. Yeah, I

1031
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: will have a lot to say, I'm sure. Yeah, yeah,

1032
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna do about the Little Gray,

1033
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: And all we can say is like, have a good

1034
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: friend on standby who can your friend who loves Gray's

1035
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: Anatomy because she can really empathize with you. Thank you

1036
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: so much for coming on and hanging out with us

1037
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: and everyone stream to begin again. It's amazing watch the

1038
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: season finale and all her music, because I mean it's

1039
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: all spectacular. Yeah, we're big fans, So thank you for

1040
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: coming on. Thank you so much, Thanks a bye, all right,

1041
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: I mean she is so cool. Like sometimes they have

1042
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: people on and I am a big fan, but I

1043
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: never know if they're gonna be excited to talk with

1044
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: us about the things that we love to talk about,

1045
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, like Gray's Anatomy. I really felt like she Yeah,

1046
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: she embraced embraced our love and like joined in with us.

1047
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah what I'm doing? Oh sorry, I sometimes I get

1048
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: nervous at Becca doesn't push things correctly. So I was

1049
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: just checking to make sure that we were still recording Mark,

1050
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: did she not say? Becca made me check to make

1051
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: sure it was going before we started this podcast. I

1052
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: like to periodically check. I think that's good. That's the

1053
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: same thing to do. Thank you. No teamwork makes a drummerk.

1054
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: What if you accidentally nudge something and hit pause. I

1055
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: don't know, just making sure we've had and I'm not

1056
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 1: saying it's Becca's fault. We've had episodes that were half

1057
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: zoom and half not zoom because we forgot to hit record.

1058
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: That's why every time we start, I go, Tanya, do

1059
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: you see it counting up? Anyways? And a long podcast?

1060
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,959
Speaker 1: Just wanted to check. I'm a bigger Ingrid fan now

1061
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: than I was thirty minutes ago. Maybe you know, she

1062
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: said she she performed at the Gray's Anatomy producer's wedding.

1063
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 1: Maybe she should be on her like scrubbers, like a

1064
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: live podcast. We do. Oh, I was gonna say she

1065
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,919
Speaker 1: could perform your wedding, but I think you might get married.

1066
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: I mean marriage is just freaky to me. But wow, okay,

1067
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: but you're like really into marriage, so maybe for your wedding. Yeah,

1068
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: I've already kind of locked that in though. Oh well

1069
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: you are. Well maybe if you stop lists of singers

1070
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: you gotta you know, really you have a good like

1071
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: text thread. I'm sure with a lot of singers you

1072
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: could use. Um. Anyways, love angered Michaelson and her song

1073
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 1: is honestly maybe the best part of the finale. I

1074
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: will I can say that confidently, and the only reason

1075
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: this is what I'll say before we let Mark try

1076
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: to redeem this episode for us. I think what upset

1077
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: me the most was that they talked about using this

1078
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 1: as the series finale. That is exactly what shook me.

1079
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: You can't. You have to remove that Internet. You have

1080
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: to focus on the episode for the episode itself. I mean, okay,

1081
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: So okay, let's focus on the episode itself. Mark, These

1082
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 1: forty four minutes focus on the US. Whatever redeeming qualities

1083
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: this episode have, like had, please list them. I enjoyed

1084
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: the Gray staff catching up to real time. I'm glad

1085
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: that they are now where we are. I love seeing

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01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: them be vaccinated. That was a very nice moment when

1087
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: they're all getting their shots. I was affected emotionally by

1088
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 1: Link proposing to Amelia and her just staring at him

1089
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: in front of the three kids, and him appearing crestfallen image.

1090
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:44,479
Speaker 1: His words were beautiful, beautiful, And I am a guy

1091
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: who put together some beautiful words and proposed on a

1092
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: beach just like that during Golden Hour, And if Amy

1093
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: would have just stared at me, that would have been

1094
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: a real drag. So I was affected by that. Um.

1095
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: I liked being harrassic. I thought that was a fun

1096
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: little thing. And I don't know it had a good

1097
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: season finales have to have a marriage, it had one,

1098
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: a birth, did never birth, but Joe got Luna like.

1099
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: There was enough season finale elements to it that I

1100
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: thought it was fairly satisfying. Now, if it had been

1101
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: the last episode of Grades ever, I would have been

1102
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: upset about that. But you can't put that context now,

1103
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: there's too much pressure for one episode to endure. I

1104
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: thought it was a decent season finale. I'm not saying classic,

1105
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: it's hardly a classic. I thought it was decent they

1106
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: said someone like one of the writers is the one

1107
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: who said that this season finale could be the series finale.

1108
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: But I think that was Verne Off. But I also

1109
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: think they made some changes, Like I think like um,

1110
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: the class, the Gray, the Meredith clap out, I think

1111
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: that was part of it. I'm not sure exactly. I

1112
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: saw a number of different articles about it, but I

1113
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: think that's too much to put on it. I it's

1114
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: not the finale. It's not remember that, right, it's not.

1115
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: But the fact that somebody in that zeitgeist not using

1116
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: it properly, but uh, in that zeitgeist of Gray's Anatomy,

1117
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: thought that this could be the series finale just feel

1118
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: so disrespectful to me as a viewer. I think there

1119
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: would have been changes made if it had been the

1120
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: series finale. Well, the whole thing should have the whole thing.

1121
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 1: Just this is my issue. I think I'll go through

1122
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: and tell you my issues with the beginning part with

1123
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: Winston and Maggie, with their wedding that almost was a wedding,

1124
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: but then their parents stood up. It was just like

1125
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: it didn't get like. I just don't feel like they're

1126
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: they're like getting the like the love story the content

1127
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: that like they deserved to tell that story. I mean,

1128
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just feel like that was corny.

1129
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: So now Owen and like I always proposed to Teddy

1130
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: how many times, Like I just I'm irrationally angry about

1131
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: that storyline. I can't even tell you, like I love

1132
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: Teddy and so I want her on the show. But

1133
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: if she would have left to be a classic, I

1134
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: would have sacrificed that to just like see that happen.

1135
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: So like every time that Owen was like on the screen.

1136
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: So I watched the finale with Red Star, which truly

1137
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: I almost wish I would could have videotaped his reactions

1138
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: because they were so somebody who's really never I mean

1139
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: he's watched one episode of Craze Anatomy. He was like,

1140
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: this looks like the videos they show you to like

1141
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 1: pitch you as a wedding videographer, but you like don't

1142
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: pick them, like when they were filing them, the way

1143
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: was beautiful. No, he goes every time every time Owen

1144
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: came on the screen, I would go like or like

1145
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: like I was getting like so hot, and he was like,

1146
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: what's your deal with this guy? And I was like

1147
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 1: he cheated on Christina Yang when they were married, and

1148
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: I just I haven't been able to get over it,

1149
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: Like I just I just don't like him, and he goes,

1150
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: what if he ever comes on your podcast? I was like,

1151
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be straight with him. I'm gonna be like,

1152
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: I don't like your character, like I just can't get

1153
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 1: past not you're gone. We can't act like we love

1154
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: Owen when we like our whole podcast. You could say

1155
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten past your cheating and Christina, that's fine,

1156
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 1: but you're not gonna say every time you come out screen,

1157
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: and yeah, that's true, but it's true. But I think

1158
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: it was like rubbing me the wrong way because he

1159
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: was like so over the top with every little thing

1160
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: like Teddy this episode. I was just like, that's okay,

1161
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: and I get it we were jumping time, but I

1162
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: felt like we went from them literally they couldn't even

1163
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: look at each other, to then them making out and

1164
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: having sex in the on call room to like then

1165
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 1: there's like we're there just so madly in love, and

1166
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 1: I just felt I'm like, I'm not dumb, like I

1167
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: feel this feels forced to me. That's why I was

1168
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: so irritated. Yeah, I the whole thing. And you know

1169
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: I love cheesy, and so now we have a whole

1170
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 1: new season the cheese tee and me all the cheese

1171
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: if I'm getting ordering Nacho's like double down on the cheese.

1172
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 1: And to me it was too much, like I was

1173
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: just like, what, like, what is happening? I like the

1174
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: musical episode, so I'm all in on the cheese as well.

1175
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: But I agree, I can't defend the O and Teddy's situation.

1176
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: And then and then the Lincoln Amelia things was so sad.

1177
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: Why like where, why did she all the sudden? Where

1178
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: did that come from? I'm confused where that came from?

1179
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:33,440
Speaker 1: That isn't that like that Alesia Kara song and you know,

1180
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: when did you fall out of love with me? That's

1181
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: what Amelia or that's what Link should have been singing

1182
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: to Amelia. Okay, but here's my thing now, which is

1183
01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: what I always thought was going to happen. They're going

1184
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: to try and do the Link and they were friends,

1185
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: which I'm not opposed to, But then I felt like, well,

1186
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: why have Lincoln Amelia have this relationship up and have

1187
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 1: a baby if they're like if they saw Joe and

1188
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: Link being together, which felt very obvious to me. I

1189
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: don't know, but I was very sad when when she

1190
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: didn't say yes yeah, And honestly, I was really like

1191
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 1: thrown off by that whole storyline, like because I'm like,

1192
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 1: when did she stop liking link? When did she fall

1193
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: out of love with him? I did love Um, you know,

1194
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: I did get emotional at the very end when Meredith

1195
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: and Teddy came out of surgery and Meredith and Bailey hugged,

1196
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: because to me, it felt like I was seeing there

1197
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: them in real life, like not even characters, Like I

1198
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: felt like I could see their friendship and they're like

1199
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: respect for one another in that hug and like how

1200
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 1: much they love each other, And it made me kind

1201
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: of emotional. And that's when um the song to beginning

1202
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: it was playing just like a lot, so yeah, this

1203
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: is my I've had a few Grays Anatomy finales that

1204
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:57,479
Speaker 1: I've been like me, but normally the ones before those

1205
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: are so devastating and crushing and like all summer long,

1206
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I cannot wait to see where this picks

1207
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 1: up again. And then this one was more one of

1208
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: those ones where I was like, I'm not but also

1209
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:16,560
Speaker 1: I appreciate that they wrapped up this season long COVID storyline.

1210
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 1: I feel like, in the fall, we're gonna get back

1211
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 1: to normal, Like this was another side of getting back

1212
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 1: to normalcy in life, and on Gray's I appreciated that

1213
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I did like that. I did like

1214
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 1: that they're not gonna have another season finale where the

1215
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: building explodes and half the cast is killed, you know,

1216
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm done with those. If we don't have

1217
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: any more disaster finales, I'm fine with it. I don't know,

1218
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: I kinda I you know, there's something about it's like

1219
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: weird because what Gray's Anatomy has done such a great

1220
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: job with is showing tragedy and loss while also showing

1221
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: hopeful moments, and so they've been able to navigate both

1222
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 1: and I think I mean, granted, COVID was devastating, but

1223
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: it was a season of like a consistently sad thing

1224
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: that we're living in real life, Whereas like the bomb episode,

1225
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 1: the shooting episode, those were just like so intense that

1226
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,799
Speaker 1: your brain like couldn't even like it felt like TV,

1227
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, like where you're like escaping into this universe

1228
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 1: that wasn't real. And I felt like this one was

1229
01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: so real that there wasn't that escape feeling, and maybe

1230
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: that's what I felt like I was missing on the finale.

1231
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. Um I do would like to say

1232
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 1: that we're talking with Ingrid about great musical memories from

1233
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: that show, and my favorite will always be the bomb

1234
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 1: episode when Meredith is over the body and Kyle Chandler's

1235
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: talking through it and suddenly here it's too am and

1236
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: she calls me but I'm staying away. Can they do

1237
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: almost a whole song of breathe? Who am by an analytic?

1238
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: And then wait, what's the song? It's breathe just breathe breathe? Yeah,

1239
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: that isn't That isn't really great. That's my favorite Grays

1240
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: moment musical. It's a pretty great scene. You know. It's

1241
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: interesting how funny though that that's actually what I wanted

1242
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: to do for like a little bit of time in

1243
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: my life. Do you know what? So play music? Negotiator,

1244
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: play songs? What songs go into like what TV episodes?

1245
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 1: Because that really makes it really makes like a moment.

1246
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 1: I also when I started watching Grays Anatomy was like,

1247
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: how do I get to be the personal Grayson Anatomy

1248
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: who chooses the songs? Yeah, because I think also in

1249
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: that time when I was really interested in it, that's

1250
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 1: where a lot of music Discovery was coming from. Like

1251
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 1: that was it like people would put there, you know,

1252
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I heard this song on my favorite

1253
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 1: show and they're like google the lyrics and d dada da,

1254
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 1: and so that was like a big thing. That's where

1255
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: I heard white Horse by Taylor Swift for the first time.

1256
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: They featured it on Graysonatomy before it came out on Hill.

1257
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 1: For me, like I feel like I did a lot

1258
01:10:56,000 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: of music Discovery had some great, great music. Fine, Um, well,

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Speaker 1: I mean we've been gone, this podcast has gone long,

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Speaker 1: so I think it's time to go. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: like they saying Gray's Anatomy, what that's s and folks,

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard that. All right, we'll not note We'll

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Speaker 1: be back next Monday for more fun. Yeah, and definitely

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Speaker 1: let us know if you want us to go to

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Speaker 1: pump Springs again. Yeah, let us know, because we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go whether you want us or not, I'm sure, but

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Speaker 1: it would be fun to know if you would be

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Speaker 1: interested in that. Yeah. Um, we love you all, have

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Speaker 1: a great week fine