1 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined by my 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: partner and everything Packers, Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to you 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: here from our studios at Lambeufield to preview the NFC 5 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: Wildcard playoff game at Soldier Field. It's coming up on 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Saturday night, seven pm Central kickoff. It is the Packers 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: and Bears. It is round three of this particular season 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: in just a span of a little over a month. 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: And speaking of things kind of happening quickly, these last 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: two days at twelve sixty five Lombardy, Wes have been 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: pretty busy with locker room interviews and press conferences and 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: everything else. So I'm just going to start by throwing 13 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: this out to you. As far as what you've seen, 14 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: what you've heard over the last couple of days here 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: at Lambeau, what's made the biggest impression on you? O? 16 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: Great question. Can I start with a fun fact, Joyed 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: that I didn't realize until today, absolutely has nothing to 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: do with Saturday's game. Sure, the Packers and Bears nineteen 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: forty one, that was the first ever Divisional round playoff 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: game in NFL history. It was to break a tie 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: between the Packers and Chicago atop the NFC or the 22 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: NFL Western Division. Also was Clark Kinkle's last game. That 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 2: was it for him. 24 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: No kidding, that was Clark Kinkle's last game. I did 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: not know that. 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 2: Scored a touchdown on the first play or the first possession. 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: There was back to back fumbles by Chicago. Green Bay 28 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 2: scored after that first one. It was Hinkle's touchdown. That 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: was the last game that he played in. And then 30 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: Chicago win on a thirty point run there ended up 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: winning the game, went on and beat the New York 32 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: Giants to win theirs back to back NFL championships. 33 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: It is also worth noting, as we as I said 34 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: round three and thirty five days, but this is also 35 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: the third postseason meeting between these two rivals, and it's 36 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: worth noting that the winner in the two previous ones 37 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: went on to win the NFL championship. So just throwing 38 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: that out crazy those who those who like to know 39 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: something about their history. 40 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, something else that was funny about Hinkle two that 41 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 2: game against the Bears, he actually had his leg torn 42 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: open by a spike, left. 43 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: The game well, that sounds like fun. 44 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 2: And he came back and made a forty four yard 45 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: field goal later on, just guys. 46 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: With his legs sliced open. 47 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't the kicking leg though. Ohkay, okay, great 48 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 2: start to unscripted this today? Right? 49 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: Why not? 50 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: This is it? Ties in though I say all this 51 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 2: for a reason. Weeks like this are really special, Mike, 52 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 2: and I think you kind of got a feel for 53 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: it the last two days that we've been in the 54 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: locker room. If you are drafted by the Packers, if 55 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: you're signed to Green Bay, you understand the rivalry between 56 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: these two teams. And for two opponents that have squared 57 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: off over two hundred and ten times will be the 58 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: two ner and twelve or two hundred thirteenth meeting. It's 59 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: crazy that this is only the third time it's been 60 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. And you and I have talked about 61 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: in previous episodes there was this era, it seems like 62 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: multiple times where when the Packers were really good, the 63 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: Bears weren't very good. When the Bears were exceptional, the 64 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: Packers were going through their adul drums. And here they 65 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 2: are right now, right where you have Ben Johnson and 66 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: his football team, they're riding high, they're feeling good about themselves. 67 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: And on the other side of things, the Green Bay 68 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: Packers rested trying to make this you know, count and 69 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: be the seventh seed for the third straight year and 70 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: maybe make some magic happen. That's really exciting. And there's 71 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 2: so many layers to this rivalry. There's so many layers 72 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: to this football game. But ultimately, those sixty minutes at 73 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: Soldier Field on Saturday night, snow wind, whatever happens along 74 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: with that game on the lake shore of Lake Michigan, 75 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: there this is This is fun, this is what football 76 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: is all about, and I'm really excited to get it going. 77 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting from the rivalry perspective how quickly things 78 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: changed and got to this point because heading into Week 79 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: eighteen of last season, the Packers had won eleven consecutive 80 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: games against the Bears. It really wasn't much of a 81 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: rivalry because Green Bay simply owned it. The Bears ended 82 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: up winning that game at the end of the twenty 83 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: twenty four season. It didn't have huge consequences, except it 84 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: did have some consequences for the Bears, I think just 85 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: in terms of those players and that locker room and 86 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: now here we come into twenty twenty five. The Bears 87 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: have a new head coach. The first meeting isn't until December, 88 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: and both teams are playing for first place in the division. 89 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: Comes down to the last play. Then they meet again 90 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: a couple weeks later, it again comes down to the 91 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: last play in overtime. And now a playoff game is 92 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: on deck between these two. So it all changed. It 93 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: all shifted very very quickly as far as the last 94 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: couple of days around here, I just want to touch 95 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: on a few things. One is that Jordan Love unequivocally 96 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: said he has no concerns about feeling rusty or being 97 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: rusty having missed the last two and a half games 98 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: heading into the playoffs. He's not concerned about that at all. 99 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: He really felt the practice work that that he got 100 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: last week, even though he wasn't gonna play against Minnesota 101 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: when Matt Lafleur was having the ones go against the ones, 102 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: he felt that helped to keep him sharp. We also 103 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: heard from Josh Jacobs he's with having only carried the 104 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: ball four times in the last two games, four carries 105 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: against Baltimore, did not play at all against Minnesota. Josh 106 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: Jacobs says he feels better than he has since he 107 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: initially banged that knee against the New York Giants back 108 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: in Would that have been in November if if I'm 109 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: correct on my calendar there? So those were two. Those 110 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: were two significant pieces of news commentary to UH to 111 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: come out of the locker room. And I wanted to 112 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: get your thoughts too, because I know, I know you 113 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: take this very seriously as I do as well. But 114 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: the group of green Bay Media the Writers honored three 115 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: players with the annual Tom mull Hern what we call 116 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: the Stand Up Guy Award. Other teams call it the 117 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: Good Guy Award, but it's essentially a media award honoring 118 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: a player or players who help the reporters' best do 119 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: their jobs, and the green Bay chapter gave it to 120 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: three players, Josh Jacobs, Christian Watson, Evan Williams. I thought 121 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: all three were very deserving. I think there are other 122 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: guys in that This has been a really interesting year 123 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: in green Bay because I think whether you're talking Micah Parsons, 124 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: Jordan love Bo, Melton Tucker Craft before he got injured, 125 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: there are a bunch of guys who legitimately would be 126 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: you know, candidates for this award, but three guys get it, 127 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: and that doesn't happen all the time either. It's just 128 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: it was a reflection of how good this locker room 129 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: has been to the media, and I think that's been 130 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: a service to the fans. 131 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: I'm glad there was a lot of people that actually 132 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: messaged me to on social media saying, hey, I always 133 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: kind of look forward to finding on who these gore 134 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: are going to be because the one thing that you 135 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: and I do here, Michael, and it is about x's 136 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: and o's. And certainly the Packers have a football game 137 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 2: to win on Saturday night to continue on their season, 138 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: but it is about getting to understand these players and 139 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 2: know them and realize who they are beyond just what 140 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: they do professionally. And I think Josh Jacobs, Christian Watson, 141 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: and Evan Williams all kind of epitomize that idea of 142 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: understanding that the media and what we do it's a 143 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: condiment to the fans. We are the selected majority minority 144 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: there that like we're like the not to get political, 145 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: but like the congressman that get elected, right, we're of 146 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 2: the fans and we try to go and get the 147 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: information for people right, so and bring it back to them. 148 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: So what I loved about those three guys, first and foremost, 149 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 2: just to touch on Evan Williams, because this guy's come 150 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: in in two years. I think this year we saw 151 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: him make a really good first impression both on the 152 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: field and off the field as a rookie as a 153 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: fourth round pick out of Oregon yep. But then this 154 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 2: year you've seen him kind of emerge as a leader 155 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: and a guy that for a young football team has 156 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: become sort of a voice for them, and you know, 157 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: win or lose, he's there to take the questions. But 158 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: what I enjoyed really about both Josh and Christian, who 159 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: have both won it now two times, join a category 160 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: I think now five guys that have won it multiple times. 161 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: Xavier McKinney is another one who's wonted in the past 162 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: here and again I didn't mention him when I was 163 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: listing off other guys. So that's another guy who very 164 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: easily could have been a word of it for a 165 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: second time. 166 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. But with Josh and Christian, what I loved about 167 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: their stories is both of those guys were incredibly transparent 168 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: about their injuries. Now you don't have to give us 169 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: the the MRIs or the X Rays or like that. 170 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: But so because I think sometimes when you talk about 171 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: fans and what you and I deal with with insider inboxes, 172 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: people get frustrated because they don't understand. I think both 173 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: of those guys in their journeys, Christian coming back from 174 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: the ecl and then Josh dealing with this bone bruce 175 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: slash thigh injury, going back again six weeks ago to 176 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: the Giants game, both of those guys were very transparent 177 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 2: about where they were in their recoveries, and I think 178 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: that speaks to them as men. I think it speaks 179 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: to them as professionals, and also the fact that they're 180 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 2: both very, very good football players on this team. That's 181 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 2: one of the considerations too with the award is that 182 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: it's guys that are routinely sought after and coveted for 183 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: interviews and at constantly asked for their time. They both 184 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: exemplify that, and I think it's also kind of cool 185 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: too in Christian's case that we were talking to him 186 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: separately at his locker on Wednesday, and this is an 187 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: opportunity this Saturday night that he didn't get last year. 188 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 2: He was at home when he tore his acl actually 189 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: against the Chicago Bears in the regular season finale. He 190 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: wasn't able to be there to help this football team. 191 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: You could tell how hungry he is for this opportunity, 192 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs, how much it meant to him to be back. 193 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: He's off the injury report this week, like you said, 194 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 2: to feeling the best that he's felt since he went 195 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: into that Giant's game. These are the playmakers that, yes 196 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: they're the voice of the locker room, but when the 197 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: whistle gets blown on Saturday night, if the Packers are 198 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: going to be victorious, they need to have big performances 199 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 2: out of those guys. And watching a new guy, a 200 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: guy walk into the locker room like Josh Jacobs and 201 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 2: take over a leadership role, and then also seeing Christian 202 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 2: Watson now in year four, a guy that was drafted 203 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 2: here but now taking on that ownership, it's pretty neat 204 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: to see. 205 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: Well, some of these things that we're talking about actually 206 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: highlight some of the differences with regard to this matchup 207 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: versus the one that was at Soldier Field just a 208 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: few weeks ago. Because the hope, of course is that 209 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: Jordan Love will be able to play the entire game. 210 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: He left that previous game in the middle of the 211 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: second quarter with the concussion. Josh Jacobs is certainly much healthier. 212 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: Evan Williams actually missed game number two against the Bears. 213 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: He was dealing with the knee injury at that time. 214 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: And then the Packers are hoping to get Zach tom 215 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: back at right tackle, and Trayvon Diggs has been added 216 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: to the secondary. That's a player that the Packers did 217 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: not have on the roster when they met the Bears 218 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: at Soldier Field earlier. On Chicago's side of things, some 219 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: of the differences. The Bears are expecting to get wide 220 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: receiver Roman Dunze back. The word out of Chicago is 221 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: that he might be kind of limited, not necessarily playing 222 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: a full snapload. But this is a productive and dangerous 223 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: receiver for Caleb Williams, and I'm sure he's thrilled to 224 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: get him back. They also might be getting cornerback Kyler 225 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: Gordon back. He's been designated to return from injured reserve. 226 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: That's a guy who did not play in the previous 227 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: meeting in Chicago. And then CJ. Gardner Johnson, who is 228 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: sort of the Javon Bullard of the Bears defense, the 229 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: safety slash slot corner. Yeah, nickel corner guy. He's in 230 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: the concussion protocol, so his status is iffy for this one. 231 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: Just wanted to kind of rattle those off because those 232 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: are some of the things about this Round three that 233 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: are going to look different compared to Round two just 234 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. 235 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: And I like what Matt Lafleur had to say about 236 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 2: this because he was asked about a doun zabn back, 237 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: but you know, he mentioned that's another playmaker for their offense. 238 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 2: I think it helps their eleven personnel packages. It gives 239 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: them a little bit more flexibility, versatility with how they 240 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: want to utilize personnel. But let's be honest, Mike, I mean, 241 00:11:55,160 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: this is a much more talented Chicago team that I 242 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 2: think the Packers have seen over the years. When you 243 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: look at it is and just a donze right. It 244 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: is the way that Burden has come on. It's the 245 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: way that Colston Loveland has become a focal point. They 246 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: use the tenth overall pick on him. Look at him 247 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: this year. A rookie, twenty one year old that comes 248 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: into the National Football League and he leads them in 249 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: receiving this season Dj Moore. We saw in that last 250 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 2: game just how dynamic he can be, how dangerous he 251 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: can be. When you go back to this whole overhaul 252 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: that they did, he was one of the first pieces 253 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 2: that they brought in. There was a specific plan for 254 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 2: him within this offense, and Caleb Williams has built that 255 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: chemistry with him. And then the challenges that lie with 256 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 2: both that backfield and you know DeAndre Swift and being 257 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 2: a thousand yard rusher again this season. Caleb Williams and 258 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: his ability to extend plays. Their offensive interiors much improved 259 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: this year. The Packers' defense has its work cut out 260 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: for itself. That being said, I like where the mindset 261 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: is right now of Green Bay, which is I think 262 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 2: this unit is booy. You know, we talks so much 263 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: about momentum, right I think there's something to be said 264 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: for also healthy or going into a playoff. 265 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: Yep. 266 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: You can have all the momentum in the world, and 267 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: if you don't play for those sixty minutes the way 268 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: that you got to play, if you're banged up, if 269 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: you're mentally not prepared, if you're not in the right place, 270 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: your season can be over. I think Matt Lafleur has 271 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: hit the right buttons with this team over the last 272 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 2: two weeks. I understand what the losing streak was at 273 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: the end of the regular season based on how that 274 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: game played out. You can't do anything about it. But 275 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's a much different conversation if 276 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: the Packers did have their starters out there against Minnesota 277 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: the way that their defense played specifically. But be that 278 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: as it may, the Packers had to give themselves a chance, 279 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 2: and they did, and they'll find out whether or not 280 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 2: it actually is enough on Saturday night. 281 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's interesting though, I mean, when you talk 282 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 1: about that the health of a team and kind of 283 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: where it sits, because and I'm not trying to get 284 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves here, and because you take it one 285 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: game at a time, but the goal is to win 286 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: a championship. And you know you and I witnessed in 287 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, the Packers had as much momentum as any 288 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: team could possibly ask for, and they were rolling into 289 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs. They got two massive wins, but then you 290 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: get to the NFC Championship and there was nothing left 291 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: in the tank, like they had emptied it, right, So 292 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: I think in terms of the big picture, not just 293 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: what was going to be right for this game against 294 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: the Bears, but in terms of putting yourself in the 295 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: best position to win a championship, to make a run here. 296 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: I think the Packers did the best they could for 297 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: themselves by taking that week to just reset and refocus 298 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: with their starters, because ultimately, this is about not just 299 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: winning on Saturday night in Chicago, but it's trying to 300 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: go on a winning streak here and beat several of 301 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: the best teams in the NFL consecutively, which is what 302 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: you have to do to win a title. 303 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: And I like there was a question that came in 304 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: an inbox and it was really interesting split up the 305 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 2: teams that rested players and the teams that played their 306 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: starters last week. I don't think there is a right 307 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: or wrong answer, right. 308 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: I think it's it's how a coach feels about his 309 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: team in a given moment. It's not like there's some 310 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: formula out there for this, but it's about having you know, 311 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: the finger on the pulse of the team, so to speak, 312 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: and that coach has to make the decision for his 313 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: ball club. 314 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: The only time it really gets taken out of your 315 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: hands is if it's like the twenty ten Packers and 316 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: you just got to win to get in right. Green 317 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: Bay this year had its fate sealed a little bit 318 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: ahead of time, one because of how things played out 319 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: the last two weeks of the regular season, and two 320 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: because they lost that game against the Bears, and that 321 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: kind of made them come to the reality and the 322 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: terms that they're going to be, if not the seventh seed, 323 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: still taking the wild card path. So it's been now 324 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: three months since they had the bye week, and then 325 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: from the Bears perspective, relatively healthy, I mean CJ. Gardner 326 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 2: Johnson ends up getting the concussion. We'll find out later 327 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: today at the time of which we're taping this what 328 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 2: his situation is going to be. My guess they're probably 329 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 2: not gonna to have him, But then Kyler Gordon is 330 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: potentially coming back off of injured reserve designated to return. 331 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: It's all these different things that come together that decide 332 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 2: how this game is ultimately going to be played. But 333 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: I think the Bears, it's been super impressive to see 334 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: what Ben Johnson's done with them out of the gate. 335 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: You can feel that they obviously have a confidence and 336 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: a swagger to what they're doing and the way that 337 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: they're playing. But at the same time, this is new 338 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: territory for them, and they lost back to back to 339 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: end the regular season. The Packers, You've had two experiences. Now, 340 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: you've had two postseasons where you've been the number seven seed. 341 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: You know what it's like going into another team's venue. 342 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: And again, I just feel like this whole setup and 343 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: the way that this thing has played out, it's very 344 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: apropos it's very fitting and to the best team the spoils. 345 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: I think what makes the Bears, because there are a 346 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: lot of people questioning the Bears regardless of the fact 347 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: that they have the two seed, but I think what 348 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: makes the Bears a dangerous team in this what I 349 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: consider a wide o in NFC playoffs is they're a 350 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: team that believes when you set an NFL record by 351 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: winning six games in which you trailed in the last 352 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: two minutes of the fourth quarter, an NFL record for 353 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: one season six times, that's a team that believes. I 354 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: went back, I counted, I believe if I counted it correctly, 355 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 1: eleven of Chicago's seventeen games this season came down to 356 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: essentially the last minute, if not the last couple of 357 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: plays of the game. Eleven out of seventeen, these guys 358 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: have played more down to the wire games than anybody. 359 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: They have won the majority of them, which is why 360 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: they won the NFC North and why they are the 361 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: two seed in the NFC. But they didn't win all 362 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: of them, which they found out the last two weeks 363 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: against San Francisco and Detroit. Those games can go the 364 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: other way. They found out at lambeau Field in early 365 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: December that those games can go the other way as well, 366 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: but they are dangerous because they believe. Round three here, 367 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: I want to dive right into keys to victory because 368 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: when you're facing a team for the third time, you've 369 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: gone through two games sixty minutes in one case more 370 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: than sixty minutes with overtime, it feels like the list 371 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: gets longer and longer you figure out all these things 372 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: that you have to do in order to beat a team, right, 373 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: the list just keeps growing and growing. So it's a 374 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: list of seven, eight, nine things we could rattle off 375 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: that are the keys to victory for the Packers here, 376 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna throw it to you and say what 377 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: and you can list as many as you would like. 378 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: But what's at the top of your list. 379 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: It's protecting the football. Yeah, so there's first I'll bringing 380 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: it back to what you just talked about. We've never 381 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 2: seen in the National Football League a team like the 382 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 2: Chicago Bears statistically speaking, and there's a chance we may 383 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: never see a team like them quite again. When you 384 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: look at the fourth quarter comebacks, when you look at 385 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: the amount of come from behind victories. But then you 386 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: also mix in the fact if you and I have 387 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 2: been discussing an inbox league leader in takeaways yep this season, 388 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: but also allowed twenty four and a half points per 389 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: game team total points on the season. That's never happened 390 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: before with the playoff team in the NFL. In ten 391 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: instances where a team has led the league in takeaways 392 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: but also given up at least twenty three points per game, 393 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: this is the only example of a team that made 394 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: it to the postseason. It shows how opportunistic they've been, 395 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: it shows how talented they've been, but it also shows 396 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 2: that this is a defense that there's yards to be 397 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 2: had yep. The Packers have to take that part of 398 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: it while also minimizing the mistakes, and that is easier 399 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 2: said than done. The Packers have seen it. That game 400 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: against Chicago speaks to that, the small margin of error 401 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 2: that there is that could separate you from being on 402 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: the lose end, losing end of one of those comebacks. Right. So, 403 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 2: for Jordan Love specifically, when you look at how the 404 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 2: game went in San Francisco two years ago, when you 405 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 2: look at how the playoff game, the wild card game 406 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: in Philadelphia went last year, he has to play the 407 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: way in which he's played this season, smart heady, protecting 408 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 2: the football while still finding those opportunities for the big plays. 409 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: And when there is adversity when it does strike, because 410 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 2: it will, even if it isn't a turnover, there's going 411 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 2: to be moments where they're going to be backed up 412 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 2: or they're gonna have to overcome something. Staying within your principle, 413 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 2: staying within your fundamentals, your footwork in the structure of 414 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 2: the offense, I think is going to be critical in 415 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: this game. 416 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and for me, I combine and it has to 417 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: do directly with the loss in Chicago a few weeks ago. 418 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: What rises to the top of the list for me 419 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: is protecting the ball and then finishing drives in the 420 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: red zone, because one of the five red zone failures 421 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: in the second matchup with the Bears was a fumble 422 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: inside the five yard line by Josh Jacobs. It was 423 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: the combination of a red zone failure and a takeaway 424 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: for Chicago's defense. And I'm not saying that that was 425 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: like the play that lost the game, because there was 426 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: a lot of football to be played after that, but 427 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: it's sort of encapsulated like this is exactly what you 428 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: cannot afford to do if you want to beat the 429 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: Chicago Bearers. And as we've talked about, the Packers for 430 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: the first three quarters of the season were so good 431 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: in the red zone as far as their efficiency at 432 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns. They were ranked second in the league. And 433 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: then starting with the Denver game and then the second 434 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: Chicago game, like things started to unravel and in the 435 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: red zone, and the Packers need to get back to 436 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: the efficiency where they were. I thought it was very 437 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: interesting what offensive coordinator Adam Stenovich said on Wednesday night 438 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: when he met with the media, because it's it's not 439 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: about it's not about panicking, it's not about tearing up 440 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: all the red zone pages in the playbook. Because the 441 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: Packers were really successful. So you have to lean on 442 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: what you've been good at down there, lean on what 443 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: you've executed well and and get back to that. And 444 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: I sense there's a confidence that this team is going 445 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: to be able to finish those drives, and going back 446 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,479 Speaker 1: to Soldier Field where they went zero for five, I 447 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: think is as good place as any to do it, obviously, 448 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: but I think it's there's a confidence that that's breeding 449 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: in that because of the approach that's been taken. At 450 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: least that's the sense that I get from the offensive player. 451 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, like how you said that, Michael, because both there 452 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: were two areas for green Bay on both sides of 453 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: the ball where I felt like in the second half 454 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 2: of the season they struggled and obviously offensively it was 455 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 2: red zone. Defensively it was run defense. I think both 456 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: of those things have to get short up here in 457 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 2: the postseason in order for green Bay to make an 458 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: extended run to touch quickly. On the defensive side of that, 459 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: I think there was a positive sign of how a 460 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 2: lot of those guys bounce back, the ones that did 461 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 2: play in that performance against Minnesota. You also saw how 462 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 2: valuable that is we can get an opponent in the 463 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: third and long, making them have to throw the ball 464 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: be one dimensional. Green May has to get back to that. 465 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: That was their bread and butter. Coincidentally, on the other 466 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: side of things for green Bay, all the pieces are 467 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: still in play for green Bay if figure out this 468 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 2: red zone offense. And it's not just the fact that 469 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: Nathaniel Hackett is in Green Bay this week, the coaching 470 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: consultant for them this year, and obviously the gold zone 471 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 2: Officionado a few years ago during some of the season 472 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: which Green Bay was at the top of the league 473 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: in that category. No, it goes back to Josh Jacobs 474 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 2: being healthy. It goes back to you know, some concepts 475 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: there with Romeo Dobbs. I mean, Dobbs was kind of 476 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 2: a go to guy there in the first half of 477 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: the season. Yeah, you're not going to get back Tuckerkraft, 478 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: but you have a guy like Christian Watson now in 479 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: this offense. How can you utilize all these pieces to 480 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: be more proficient, more efficient in that area. Because one 481 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: of the laziest if I May takes, I feel like 482 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: in the media narrative sometimes but definitely in the fan base, 483 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 2: is well you should just always go for what why 484 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 2: aren't you going for you know, you should score, you 485 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 2: gotta be more and then when it doesn't work, then 486 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: they lament not having the field goal. But the reality 487 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: is if you go into the red zone and you 488 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: have to kick two field goals, that's six points. It's 489 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: basic math, right, I mean, you're still basically for going 490 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: a possession in an opportunity to score a touchdown. Green 491 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: Bay has to get back to punching the ball in. 492 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: I think Jacobs goes a long way in that, but everybody, 493 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 2: everybody has a part to play. 494 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and like I said, there's a there's a litany 495 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: of things, a long list of things the Packers need 496 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: to do to win this game. You need to clamp 497 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: down on the Bears running game. You need to get 498 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs going established the line of scrimmage. You need 499 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: to contain Caleb Williams in the pocket, don't let him, 500 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: you know, do the running around thing. You know, all 501 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: those things that we've we've talked about in the other 502 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: matchups with the Bears as well. It's not as though 503 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: those things go away, but but I think the things 504 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: that we're talking about are the ones at the top 505 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: of the list. And if the Packers are the better 506 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: team in those couple of areas, then I really like, 507 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: I really like their chances in this one. But you know, 508 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's the playoffs, it's the NFL. Anything 509 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 1: can happen. And and I think what you said before 510 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: is important too that very rarely do playoff games go 511 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: the way the one in Dallas went two years ago, 512 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,719 Speaker 1: where it's just like nothing seems to go wrong. Everything is, 513 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, great and hunky dory from like start to finish. 514 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: That's not playoffs football. You have to be able to 515 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: weather the storm. I mean, the Bears are going to 516 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: have their moments in this game. They're going to have 517 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 1: their stretches where they're going to control the game, and 518 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,239 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, how can you stem the tide? How 519 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: can you get things going back in your direction? How 520 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: do you handle it when something goes wrong and something 521 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: bad happens. The teams that respond the best in those 522 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: moments are usually the ones that come out on top 523 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: of the playoffs. 524 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: Excellent points almost. I feel like we're doing final thoughts 525 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: right now. Oh that's true. 526 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: Well, we do have a lot of videos to shoot today. 527 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: Final thoughts is one of them, So maybe we'll just 528 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: have them, you know, splice this up and throw it 529 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: out there for final thoughts and save us some trouble. 530 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 2: On the front of it. Yeah, we're good, But not 531 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: to get all doom and gloom about everything too, because 532 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: there is a huge opportunity here. And I just want 533 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 2: to recite this quick because while Chicago did lead the 534 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: league in interceptions this season, some other statistics for you 535 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 2: defensively about when I kind of back up what I 536 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 2: was saying about the opportunities that are there. Yeah, twenty 537 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 2: ninth in total yards this season, three hundred and sixty 538 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 2: one point eight yards per game. They were twenty seventh 539 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: against the run, one thirty four point five yards per game, 540 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: twenty second against the pass, twenty second on third down defense, 541 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: and irrespectable but not spectacular, fifteenth in the red zone. 542 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 2: The Packers, if they take care of business, can get yards, 543 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: They can get touchdowns. But you have to have the 544 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 2: production and you can't do the whole you know, shooting 545 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 2: yourself in the foot deal. 546 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, what jumps out of me when you rattle those 547 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: off one hundred and thirty five rushing yards per game 548 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: that that defense allowed. The Packers can get Jacobs back 549 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,199 Speaker 1: to the Josh Jacobs that we know that he is. 550 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: And you can control the clock and control the line 551 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and you're protecting the football, you put yourself 552 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: in a good position. 553 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 2: And it's not just about running that ball either, right, 554 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 2: because you look at what happened with Baltimore, green Bay 555 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 2: got completely taken out of that because of how that 556 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: first quarter went, how that second quarter went in green 557 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: Bay had to go to the throwing right. Malik Willis 558 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: was very efficient area, but you didn't have the balance 559 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: ends up being forty minutes a time of possession. If 560 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 2: you're gonna win this game, you need to protect the 561 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 2: football because that also means how you're affecting the game 562 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 2: in terms of time of possession and control. That's where 563 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson wants to win this game, in controlling the 564 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 2: temple of the game. And honestly, that's why they've had 565 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: so many comebacks in the fourth quarter because they're keeping 566 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: it close, they're controlling the clock. Green Bay has to 567 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: seize that. When you think about the best Matt Lafleur 568 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: team since twenty nineteen, the best ones have done that. 569 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely well, we do need to pay some bills 570 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: so before we start talking about the other wild Card 571 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: games coming up this weekend in the NFL. We're here 572 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: a quick word from our sponsors. Serious XM NFL Radio 573 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: delivers hard hitting analysis and up to the minute NFL 574 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: news that true football fanatics need. Twenty four seven, three 575 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: sixty five. 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Chance you know that 592 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: game you can kind of say, is what sort of 593 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 2: knock them out of the hunt for the number one seed, 594 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: the hunt for the NFC West Championship. They can get 595 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 2: a little bit of revenge there beating the Panthers, But realistically, 596 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: and it was why reportedly, between the Packers and Bears 597 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 2: and forty nine Ers and Eagles, those are the two 598 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: most popular games here in Wildcard weekend in terms of 599 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 2: distributor and broadcasting and streaming, and it's clear to see why. 600 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: I mean, San Francisco this year has not been perfect, 601 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: but they've been dangerous. And while I felt like they 602 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: kind of got it handed to them a little bit 603 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 2: against Seattle, we saw in the Bears game that they 604 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: can put up points with anybody. I think defensively, they've 605 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: been opportunistic despite losing a lot of guys throughout the 606 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: course of the year. Could they have a long enough 607 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 2: playoff run to maybe get back of Fred Warner. We'll see. 608 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 2: But Philadelphia has been so inconsistent this year and just 609 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: understanding which team you're going to get on any given week. 610 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: The NFC West could rule this weekend. And very curious 611 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: to see which form of the Rams and forty nine 612 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: ers we see because both of them are title contenders. 613 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: But they got to survive this round. 614 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think Carolina is a massive underdo 615 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: at home here. They didn't. Yes, they ended up winning 616 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: their division in a three way tiebreaker, but they didn't 617 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: exactly inspire a lot of confidence that that this is 618 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: a team that is really gonna threaten anybody in the playoffs. 619 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: I think the Eagles against the Niners is a very 620 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: very interesting game because the last two weeks for the Niners, 621 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: they won the shootout with the Bears, and then six 622 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: days after they scored forty two points, they only scored 623 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: three against Seattle, and then they drop from the one 624 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: seed all the way down to the six. You know, 625 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: playing for the one seed and dropping to the six. 626 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: The Vikings last year were playing for the one seed 627 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: at the end, they dropped out all the way the five, 628 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: and they bowed out right away, So I'll be interested there. 629 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: The Eagles rested their guys the same approach they took 630 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: last year. Which worked for them, worked for Nick Sirianni 631 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: and his bunch to make a run. And so we'll see. 632 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: But I think I think that one is uh, that 633 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: one's a real toss up in the AFC. Buffalo is 634 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: at Jacksonville, Chargers are at Patriots, and the Monday night 635 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: game the Houston Texans at the Pittsburgh Steelers. And Aaron 636 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers as he returns to the playoffs for the first 637 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: time since the twenty twenty one season, the four time MVP. 638 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: And congratulations you get to face Demico Ryan's defense. 639 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: Exactly. Good luck against that defense. 640 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 2: I love it though. I love that Rodgers made it back. 641 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: I think I've said this numerous times this season. This 642 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 2: is the way I felt like, whether or not this 643 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: is his last year, this is the way I wanted 644 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: to see Aaron Rodgers go out. I didn't want to 645 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: see it with all this stuff that happened with the Giant, 646 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 2: with the Jets and work. It's good to see him 647 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. It's good for the NFL, it's good 648 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 2: for football. The part of me that's and I think 649 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: this goes back to the parody of the NFL itself 650 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 2: this season, the fact that there hasn't really been like 651 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: a huge front runner. There hasn't been a fifteen win 652 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: team this season. You have Buffalo, who has been so 653 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 2: close to the super Bowl here, been so close to 654 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 2: kind of getting over that humps. They have a sixth 655 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 2: seed because you had this resurgent New England Patriots team 656 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: that I think has taken on a really dangerous LA 657 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 2: Chargers team if Justin Herbert can be relatively healthy. The 658 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 2: Chargers have kind of been like the Packers of the AFC, 659 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: where they have had basically every injury to every position 660 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: that you can imagine. Their backfield, it seems like there's 661 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: been a different running back all season long based on 662 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 2: everything that they've weathered. But I think they're a game team, 663 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: and I think that's going to be a really tough 664 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: one for the Patriots whoever gets out of this. On 665 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: both sides of the conference, I think we're going to 666 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: have a very entertaining Elite eight here in this final 667 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 2: stretch to the finish line. I just think that I 668 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: honestly look at all these things, with a few exceptions 669 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: and respectfully the Panthers being one of them, where I 670 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 2: think all these teams pretty much have a shot at 671 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 2: this thing. But can Josh Allen go into Jacksonville and 672 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 2: beat Liam Cohen's team and Anthony Campinelli's defense. It's a 673 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 2: big question. And then for Jacksonville, the stakes are so 674 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: high because here you are this big season, twelve wins, 675 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 2: whatever it was. You don't want to be one done. Yeah, 676 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: I mean the stakes are really high for all these squads. 677 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: Jacksonville. Jacksonville is the team in the AFC that has 678 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: surged in my opinion at the end. I mean, this 679 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: is a team that just a couple weeks ago they 680 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: went into Denver and beat the number one seed Broncos 681 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: by two touchdowns. So Jacksonville's feeling pretty good about where 682 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: they are. But as you said, Buffalo is the team 683 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: with Josh Allen with a lot of playoff experience. They've 684 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: experienced a ton of playoff heartbreak. But the Buffalo Bills, 685 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, their record is what it is with this year, 686 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: but they I mean, they have lost a ton of 687 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: close games and as you said, they ended up not 688 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: winning their division because the Patriots surged to the front. 689 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: I think that Patriots Chargers game everybody's waiting to see, 690 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: Like when is Justin Herbert gonna have that breakout playoff performance, 691 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: because I think everybody knows that it's in him, but 692 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: is it going to happen? Is he going to find it? 693 00:33:53,800 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: And everybody's wondering there Houston against Pittsburgh. I'm thrilled for 694 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers that he is back in the playoffs and 695 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: he gets another shot, and that Week eighteen, de facto 696 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: playoff game winner gets in. Loser goes home between the 697 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: Steelers and Ravens was one of the most dramatic endings 698 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: to a regular season that I can remember in the NFL. 699 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: But man, Houston's defense is going to give the Steelers 700 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: some problems. I mean, Pittsburgh got its offense going in 701 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: the second half against the Ravens, but that was not 702 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: a very good Ravens defense, and they really struggled against 703 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: those guys in the first half. And if if they're 704 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: having any struggles at all on offense, Houston's going to 705 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: be all over them. I mean, this is this is 706 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: going to be, in my opinion, a very difficult game 707 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers to be able to advance. 708 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 2: Now, fortunately it gets back DK Metcalf. Yes, that's almost 709 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 2: that is the other piece that was almost enough to 710 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 2: eliminate them. 711 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but metcalf is back from the two game suspension. 712 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 2: But you know their offense when you look at Warren 713 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: and gain Well, and I mean, if they run the ball, 714 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 2: they do all right. If they don't, it gets really 715 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: really fast. And in their losses this year, I think 716 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: that including their one to Green Bay when they got 717 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 2: away from the run in the second half, I think 718 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: that showed Houston. This really does come down to can 719 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: Houston's defense control what they're gonna face with Aaron Rodgers 720 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 2: in this offense. If they do, I think it's gonna 721 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 2: vode really well for the Texans. In regardless. Can Pittsburgh's 722 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 2: defense not give up the big plays? Can they not 723 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 2: rupture the way that they did to C. J. Stroud 724 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 2: And in this offense, Nico Collins, everybody that's involved with it, 725 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a good Monday night football game. It'll 726 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 2: be It'll be fun. And I got a kick out 727 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: of the social media campaign of the Texans. They're finally 728 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: not playing on Saturday afternoon. They've always seen got that 729 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon game. Yeah, and here they go. They got 730 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: a Monday night football game in prime time to show 731 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 2: what they can do. 732 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, they have the Carolina Panthers to thank for that. 733 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: The eight to nine NFC South champions got the Saturday 734 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: afternoon wildcard game this time, so but yeah, it's gonna 735 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: be a great weekend of wildcard football in the NFL. 736 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: And we will be there at Soldier Field on Saturday 737 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: night for Packers and Bears. So we'll call it a 738 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: rap on this edition of Packers Unscript. You'd be sure 739 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of the team and 740 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: everything from the playoff game in Chicago West and I'll 741 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: be there and we'll have it all for you on 742 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: Packers dot com. For Wes, I'm Mike. Thank you for 743 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: tuning in everybody. We will see you next time.