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Speaker 1: My guests is Gino Brooks. He's a director, writer, and producer,

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Speaker 1: founder CEO of The Artistic Standard. Gino is an HBCU

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Speaker 1: where he joined A five A five So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get my give my a F I eight and graduating

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Speaker 1: or degree of Real Rehabilitation Mental Health. He's also got

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Speaker 1: the Master's degree of Rehabilitation consult Counseling from the University

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Speaker 1: of Kentucky. His background includes that masters and playwrighting and

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Speaker 1: screenwriting from u c l A. The Artistic Standard is

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Speaker 1: a boutique media studio focused on developing, producing, and distributing

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Speaker 1: and disruptive, socially and culturally impactful television, film and digital content.

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Speaker 1: I have on with the show because he was disruptive

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Speaker 1: in my life when I saw a body of work

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Speaker 1: called on the Bounce TV network called The Johnson's about

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Speaker 1: these four brothers who from the standpoint and I've lived

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Speaker 1: in a great life and I'm gonna continue to live

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Speaker 1: a great life. I've never seen it done so well,

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Speaker 1: especially from an African American perspective focused on men. Please

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Speaker 1: welcome to money making Conversations. Mastercland Gino Brooks h my

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Speaker 1: brother that listen. That introduction was phenomenal, man, thank you

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Speaker 1: for having me. I'm excited to be here. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: in preparation of this, I watched a lot of interviews man,

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Speaker 1: so I know how how in depth you are, and

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Speaker 1: I love the conversation. So thank you. Excited. You know,

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Speaker 1: I love the fact that my life allows me to

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Speaker 1: just you know, some people call me a renaissance man

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Speaker 1: because I really do talk and have a clear understanding

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Speaker 1: of what the journey can be. You know, my careers

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Speaker 1: in mathematics, my minor, and sociology and which work for IBM.

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Speaker 1: And then I realized that wasn't my dream. And then

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Speaker 1: when I look at you, you know HBC you graduate,

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Speaker 1: and then I see University of Kentucky, Then I see

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Speaker 1: U c l A. You got all this blue grass

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Speaker 1: and this basketball blue grass, the West Coast, the bit

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Speaker 1: West Coach. I'll started for you, man, the HBCU that

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Speaker 1: that black excellence captain you just pushed you out into world.

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Speaker 1: It did it? Did it? Did? I was You know,

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Speaker 1: The funny thing is I was one of the students

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Speaker 1: family aspect of that that brought me. Help focus me

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Speaker 1: the spc U. I'm advocate for a spc U S.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm standing on the line right now in the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry hoping to bring more opportunities for creatives and

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Speaker 1: a spc U S to get in the field that

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Speaker 1: I've chosen since you know, it's interesting that when I

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Speaker 1: look at your your life, Gino from a standpoint, because

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Speaker 1: we have similarities, you know, because what we're doing now

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Speaker 1: is not what we went to school for. Right right then,

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Speaker 1: we also um pledge Fi. I played qu Sci fi

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Speaker 1: and which you know it's it's calling doing the platform

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Speaker 1: and the divine nine. You also have five a sigma

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Speaker 1: organizations is tied to all of them. Delta, come on

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Speaker 1: that Sima Gamma road. We got him out there, but

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Speaker 1: you know you got me. This showed me no little okay,

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Speaker 1: after that, let's make sure that get something you're gonna

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Speaker 1: They're gonna hate on this. Now. We talked a little

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Speaker 1: you kind of hit a little bit, but I need

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Speaker 1: more information because of the fact that in doing George Floyd,

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Speaker 1: it just exploded. Donations were flooding into HBCU. Was like

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Speaker 1: like the white folks finally discovered it. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was annoying to me. It was annoying

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Speaker 1: you help, you know. I get a lot of individuals

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Speaker 1: So I needed to set my life up as a student. Um,

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Speaker 1: it was interesting you said something there, you know, because

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are are chasing dreams that go nowhere,

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Speaker 1: or chase them too long. You said, Rashan, Look, I know,

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Speaker 1: I was all Park. I go to the park. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm naturally right handed. I played left. Then they started gambling,

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Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. You know, we

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Speaker 1: know I was looking to your bio and like I said,

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Speaker 1: producing The Johnson which is on Bounce TV. Incredible series

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Speaker 1: of individuals who are listening or watching this episode have

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't use the words dysfunctional, but you know you can.

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Speaker 1: In our first meeting, UM, Dais and Thomas said to me, Um,

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Speaker 1: Well again, thank you for coming to money Making a Conversation.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye,