WEBVTT - Kash Patel: Trump's FBI Pick 0:00:01.760 --> 0:00:02.920 Cool media. 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:09.160 Welcome back to it could happen here a podcast about 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:12.840 Garrison Davis talking to me. Also the world falling apart? 0:00:13.360 --> 0:00:15.520 How do you feel about that? Gear? How you doing? 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:19.680 I'm pretty used to it by now, honestly. Yeah, we've 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:21.880 been doing this whole thing for quite a quite a while. 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:23.160 You sure have. 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:26.680 Have you noticed that some of these some of these 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:29.840 cabinet picks are a little funny, They're a little bit odd. 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:34.239 Have you noticed that yet? I don't know. I get 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.120 kind of a funny feeling about some of these guys. 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:39.639 You've heard about this? Are you hearing about this? Yeah? 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:42.120 I don't love it either. Gear. They don't seem cool 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:42.640 and good. 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:46.080 I mean, not all of them are like sticking around. 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.559 I guess you know. Matt Gets is now out of 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:52.000 the job. Tragic, kind of like Icarus. He flew. He 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:53.880 flew too close to an elementary school. 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:58.240 Yeah, we've already got our Scaramucci. I was gonna make 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:00.240 a scare Muccie joke, but your joke was much better. 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:04.600 It was a really fast turnaround for dates two. Yeah, 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.440 and now we're all watching Pete to see if he 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.240 if it cures the top job at the Pentagon but 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:14.520 today we're talking about this other guy named Cash Patel. 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.200 How do you feel about Cash Ptel, Robert. 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:22.320 Uh, not thrilled, kind of worried, not thrilled. Matt Gates 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.600 really seemed like the kind of guy you used to 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.520 make your sketchy Secret Police and Cash Pattel as, I 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.440 guess you're backup to that. 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:33.000 Guy totally, yeah, or at least, like I don't know. 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:35.360 Cash is different in a few ways, Like he does 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.520 a lot more kind of dirty work because he's not 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.120 like important as a person. He just wants to be 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:43.160 seen by Daddy Trump. And this episode we're going to 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:45.520 get into a little bit of Cash's backstory, what his 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.800 plans are for the FBI as he is now nominated 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.360 for the position of being director of the FBI, as 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:54.160 well as kind of what Cash has been up to 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.320 in the four years since Trump's been out of office. 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:00.280 So let's just start all the way back to the 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:05.080 beginning for background on mister Patel here. Okay, So, Cash 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.720 Pttel was born in New York, but after graduating law 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:09.880 school in two thousand and five, he worked as a 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:13.960 public defender in Florida for nine years before becoming a 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.080 federal prosecutor in the National Security Division of the DOJ. 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:21.000 He didn't really want to be a public defender. It's 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:23.000 that he really couldn't get any other jobs because he 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.320 wasn't like that's skilled. So he ended up just working 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.760 as a public defender, even though it wasn't really what 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.560 he wanted to do out of law. But once he 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.560 got to the DOJ, he worked as a terrorism prosecutor. 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:39.079 According to a DoD profile, Patel quote led investigations spanning 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.560 multiple theaters of conflict and oversaw the successful prosecution of 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.880 criminals aligned with al Qaeda, ISIS and other terroot groups unquote. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:50.200 Patel also worked with quote counter terrorism units to conduct 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:56.120 collaborative global targeting operations against high value terrorism targets unquote. 0:02:56.360 --> 0:02:59.600 Right, Okay, I'm sure he was good at that job. 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.680 I'm sure he didn't have any really embarrassing failures during 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:04.600 that period of time. 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.160 No. No, I say that just for kind of his 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:11.320 like more like surveillance background. But we will certainly get 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.720 to his ability to complete these jobs on a reliable 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:18.080 basis and like. Although that info is directly from the 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:23.880 DoD's website, Patel himself has exaggerated his career record claiming 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:27.400 in a YouTube podcast to have been the quote unquote 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:31.799 lead prosecutor in the case against the twenty twelve Benghazi attackers. 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.000 Patel actually was not even part of the trial team, 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:37.840 was only a junior staff member at the DOJ at 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.880 the time, and he was removed from this case for 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:44.680 clashing with the US Attorney's office. But this incident kind 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.520 of marks the start of a few unfortunate events in 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.200 his career that really started to kind of turn Patel 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.880 against the justice system. According to The New York Times, 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.720 in twenty sixteen, Patel was thrown out of a court 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.560 room for wearing quote, rumpled cash keys, boat shoes and 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.160 a too small borrowed jacket unquote. 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.920 I hate that he's got on my cousin Vinnie in 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.400 his record, because that movie is great and it gets 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:13.920 me on his side in a way I definitely shouldn't be. 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.920 Did he Did he come in next wearing like a 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:22.920 funeral director's tuxedo or a fucking band leader's tuxedo or whatever. 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.159 I don't know how to describe the tuxedo Viny wares 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.200 in the scene after that, anyway. 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:30.000 No, he was just kicked out of the courtroom with 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.520 the judge saying, quote, if you want to be a lawyer, 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.960 dressed like a lawyer unquote. Now this judge was also 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.840 like a racist asshole. Not defending the judge here. 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.839 And to be clear, cash Betel was not dating Marisitome. 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:43.719 He could never pull Marsitome. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:48.240 He could never pull I mean, honestly joke, who can 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:52.560 That's yeah. 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.800 But this incident is like an important part of his 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.640 career trajectory. A profile in The Atlantic details Pattel as 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:02.600 growing increasingly frustrated and disillusioned by his failure to navigate 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.680 and rise up in the justice system, just collecting more 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:09.120 and more personal grievances that fuel and animosity towards the 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.680 bureaucracy of the legal system, based on people's apparent unwillingness 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:16.760 to help him excel in his own career. But in 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.560 twenty eighteen, Patel got his really first like big break, 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:25.120 with Republican Representative Devin and Nunez hiring Patel to be 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:28.560 the House Intelligence Committee's lead investigator to disrupt the Special 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:31.960 Council investigation into Russian interference in the twenty sixteen election. 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.800 Trump was impressed enough with Patetel's work under Nunez that 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.760 He gave Patel a job on the National Security Council 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.599 and later served as chief of staff to Acting Secretary 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:46.279 of Defense Christopher Miller. Trump mused about having Patel as 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.719 deputy director of the FBI or director of the CIA 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:53.039 in late twenty twenty after the election, but this led 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.159 to harsh resistance from within his own administration, with ag 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.599 Bill Barr saying that Patel would only become FBI director 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:04.200 over my dead body, unquote. So I don't know if we'll 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:10.120 have any updates on that, yeah, say. But instead, back 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:13.040 in twenty twenty, Trump just put Patel on the Pentagon 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:18.200 transition team. Trump basically tasked Patel was doing dirty work 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:22.480 and awarded him with promotions for following orders. Patel advised 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:26.640 on the Ukraine impeachment, spread conspiracy theories that Ukraine, not Russia, 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:29.839 meddled in the twenty sixteen election, created a list of 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:33.080 intelligence agency officials to fire in February of twenty twenty, 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:37.360 and helped manage the now dismissed a classified document's case 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:42.080 against Trump. The former deputy National advisor to Trump, Charles Kopperman, 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:45.599 said in an interview quote Trump wanted to make cash 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:49.640 a political executioner to root out and fire individuals on 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:52.760 the White House staff who weren't being as loyal as 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:56.560 he thought they should be unquote. So that's kind of 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.520 a good look at him as a person. And like 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:01.960 what Cash is the rule is like specifically for Trump 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:05.720 and with the possibility of the justice system becoming just 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:07.920 more and more of like a tool to target Trump's 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.720 political rivals, Cash is the exact guy that you would pick, 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.520 especially for a job that has like an investigative focus 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:17.760 like the FBI. But Cash isn't always good at his 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:19.040 job necessarily. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.000 Wow, who amongst us? 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:24.040 We're gonna talk about one specific incident here that's one 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.200 of like the wildest stories in like national security that 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:31.480 I've ever read. In October of twenty twenty four, days 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:34.920 before the election, the Pentagon was planning in Operation for 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.840 Sale Team six to rescue an American citizen, Philip Walton, 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:41.800 who was kidnapped in Niger and being held in Nigeria. 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.200 As the State Department was working to communicate with officials 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.720 in Nigeria to clear airspace for the operation. Patel, who 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:51.840 was not part of this operation, just called the Pentagon 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.360 saying that Secretary of State Mike Pompeo had gotten approval 0:07:55.440 --> 0:08:00.760 from Nigeria and the airspace was deconflicted, so as the 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:04.960 Seals were about to land in Nigeria, defense officials couldn't 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:09.080 verify that the flight actually had clearance, leaving the aircraft 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.520 to circle over the target for hours as they scrambled 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:15.320 to get approval from Nigeria. According to former Defense Secretary 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:20.000 Mark Esper, Patel was never in communication with Mike Pompeo 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:24.360 about this mission, and Defense officials concluded that Patel quote 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:30.640 made the approval story up. Unquote. Cool guy, this is wild. 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.360 You almost caught Sealed Team six like shot out of 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.200 the air because you made up a story about having 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.360 flight clearance. It's like, it's crazy. 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:42.120 Yeah, I mean, this is exactly the guy you want 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:43.760 running the FBI, for sure. 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:48.400 A Pentagon official yelled at Cash, quote, you could have 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:50.880 gotten those guys killed. What the fuck were you thinking, 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.880 to which Cash replied, if nobody got hurt, who the 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:55.640 fuck cares? 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:02.200 Amazing stuff, amazing stuff, Let him cook crazy stuff. Look 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.160 here's the thing, Garrison. If it had gone the worst 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.400 possible way it could have gone, we'd have been saved 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:12.640 at least four interminable books and at least three podcasts. 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.719 So like people like interviewed in the Atlantic, and I 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.440 think the author of the profile on Cash kind of 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:22.280 muses that, like maybe Cash just wanted this operation done 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.680 before the election to give Trump like an extra win 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:28.160 leading up to the polls. I don't know, it's it's 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.520 certainly odd, but like Cash has a very like inflated 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.040 sense of like personal worth. In an interview with Glenn Beck, 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.680 he talked about how like people should should trust his 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.920 expertise because quote, I've read the entire JFK file. 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:46.600 Well, I mean, geez you and Oliver Stone. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.760 Right, he makes comments like that, It's like no, no, no, 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:54.160 like trust me. I know everything, Like I've read all 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:56.559 the classified stuff that you're not allowed to. I'm like 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.480 the smartest guy in the room. I've read everything, right, 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:02.040 Like he's he uses this as like a as a 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.480 way to like inflate his own personal worth and like 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.800 flex to weird right wing online podcast s grifters. 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:09.920 People have made this point. But it's guys like this 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:12.640 that have convinced me that there's no at least no 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:17.560 like perfectly known to intelligence smoking gun about the Kennedy assassination. 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:21.240 That shit would have leaked so quickly. No, if not 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.160 before Trump was in office, then certainly a bout the 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:24.880 time he was. 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.520 Yeah, because you have guys like Cash Battel reading these files. 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:29.520 There's nothing in there. 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.640 There's no or at least if there is, it's the 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:34.520 kind of thing there may be a smoking gun that 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.199 someone who is deeply knowledgeable at the time period, like, oh, 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:38.800 the fact that this guy was here at this time 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:40.920 really means that this other thing happened, and like yeah, yeah, 0:10:40.960 --> 0:10:42.120 the Cash Hotel doesn't know shit. 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.640 Yeah, he is not smart enough to put any pieces 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.480 together or maybe there's even still redacted and the versions 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.360 that he's reading don't really have any like pertinent info. 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:50.760 Right. 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:52.880 People are just like, let's not give this guy the 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:53.560 real once. 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:59.720 No, No, this guy like lied about prosecuting the Bengazi 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:02.720 and almost got Seal Team six killed. 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.319 Now, oh man, and of all this, out of all 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.520 the Seal teams to get killed too, that's the one 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:08.800 that would be the biggest news day. 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.440 Do you know who would never kill Seal Team six? 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:15.320 Robert I'm never gonna say never about killing Seal Team six. 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:19.240 Well, I mean, hopefully allegedly these products and services would 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:31.000 never wish harm upon Seal Team six. All Right, we 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.240 are back. I'd like to talk a little bit now 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:38.120 about Patel's actual plans for the FBI. Now, this job 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:41.640 doesn't require a Senate confirmation, so we will see, you know, 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.320 if he gets past that process or if he's gonna 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.560 get pushed in through recess appointments, which we still don't 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:48.480 really know if Trump will be able to pull off. 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:52.040 But in terms of the FBI, we do have some 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.800 idea about what Cash has in mind, because he's spent 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.400 the past two years just talking about it a NonStop 0:11:58.440 --> 0:11:59.640 in books and interviews. 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:00.000 Yeah. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.640 Yeah, because he, like all these guys, cannot shut up. 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:03.640 Can't stop talking. 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:04.240 Yes. 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.920 In an appearance on The Sean Ryan Show this past September, 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:13.199 Patel said, quote, I'd shut down the FBI Hoover building 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.320 on day one and reopen it the next day as 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:22.600 a museum of the deep state. Unquote Okay, okay, cool. 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:26.160 Sure, I do feel like you're underestimating the expense of 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.520 office space and overestimating the availability of it, but sure, 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:29.880 why not. 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:32.680 Yeah, I don't think they can make a whole museum 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:33.760 turn around in one day. 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:38.400 But I also think you are really, really underappreciating docents. 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:40.840 It is not easy to get a docent up to speed, 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.080 like for example, it's a much harder job than you 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:44.680 currently have. 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:49.240 No, like Patel does talk about like trying to like 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:52.400 clear out like the bureaucracy and red tape of the FBI. 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.440 And though he has criticized the wide footprint of the 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:58.560 FBI and its surveillance operations though really only the ones 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.760 targeted against Trump and his campaign, Cash's ideal FBI would 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:05.079 not in fact have like a more limited presence out 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:08.680 in the world, saying that after closing the Hoover Building, quote, 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.040 then I'd take the seven thousand employees that work in 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:14.640 that building and send them across America to chase down criminals. 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:19.760 Go be cops, your cops, go be cops unquote. So 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:21.400 this is what you get, Like a seven year old 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.440 the keys to the FBI, and this is this is 0:13:23.480 --> 0:13:25.720 this is the kind of stuff he's talking about. Yeah, 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:29.000 it's like I'm gonna send all these administrative employees out 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:30.960 into the world to chase down criminals. 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:34.200 Now you say that, Garrison, I absolutely would put a 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.680 seven year old in charge of the FBI. You know why. 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:40.280 That's a blockbuster movie Now, to be fair, that's a 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:42.240 nineteen ninety seven blockbuster. 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:44.400 But yeah, yeah, it's like that could thirty years ago. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.560 Can you imagine the cat cat young Mara Wilson running 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.240 the FBI, fucking FBI. Yeah, perfect. 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.480 You know, if we said it a little bit further, 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.360 we could have like Will Wheton as like the villain. 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.560 Yeah, you know, like Will Wheton as the evil kid 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.400 heading the CIA. They also put it, but they put 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:03.880 Will Wheaton charge of the CIA. Yes, damn all right, 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.000 you know what, Garrison, this podcast is done. You and 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:07.520 I are writing a screenplay tonight. 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.719 With the power of AI, I can just generate this 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:13.440 whole movie instantly. 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:18.079 Perfect with a truly ghoulish guest appearance by Robin Williams. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.160 Just the worst taste imaginable. 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:30.000 No, sorry, President Williams. God damn oh dear, nightmare nightmare fuel. 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:33.960 Now it's it's really unclear if like Cash's plans here 0:14:33.960 --> 0:14:37.040 are like rhetoric, right, like you know, more vibes than 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.360 like actual plan, you know, like expressing some kind of 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.760 sentiment rather than like an actual practical like plan. But 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:47.800 last year, Patel published a book titled Government Gangsters, the 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.960 Deep State, The Truth and the Battle for Our Democracy, 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:55.240 where he also proposed relocating the FBI headquarters out of Washington, 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:59.680 d C. To quote prevent institutional capture and curb FBI 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:04.960 leader from engaging in political gamesmanship unquote. Though the bulk 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.160 of this book also details like why we must root 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:12.120 out politicians, journalists, big tech, and quote unquote members of 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:16.480 the unelected bureaucracy that operate the deep state, So you know, 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.200 like the FBI engaging in a little bit of political 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:22.760 gamesmanship is okay. In the appendix of this book, it 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.360 contains the names of sixty alleged members of the deep state, 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.720 most of them either like former Trump cabinet people who 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:33.200 like turned on Trump or just like current Biden adamin people. 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.040 It's all pretty silly, But it's not like he actually 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:39.720 plans to take out political prosecutions away from like the 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.680 FBI's operational structure. Like come on, buddy, this is like 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:46.360 your entire plan. In an interview with Steve Bannon last year, 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:52.120 Patel reiterated the goal of targeted prosecutions against political enemies, saying, quote, 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.840 we will go out and find the conspirators, not just 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:59.160 in the government, but in the media. Yes, we're going 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:02.120 to come after people in the media who lied about 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:06.840 American citizens who helped Joe Biden rig presidential elections were 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:10.840 going to come after you unquote. So that's cool again, 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:12.960 It's this is this is the basic stuff that Trump's 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.720 been promising since, like you know, the past four years, 0:16:15.800 --> 0:16:18.040 going after journalists, going after politicians. 0:16:18.240 --> 0:16:18.440 Yeah. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.200 This quote specifically also just like reminded me that like 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.320 there's like a real possibility that like the head of 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.600 the FBI legitimately thinks the twenty twenty election was stolen, 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.240 And like then I got to thinking, like how many 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:32.600 of like the people operating the highest levels of government 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:35.520 now genuinely believe the election was stolen in twenty twenty, 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:37.680 which is like kind of kind of threw me for 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:39.960 a loop. I like didn't really like process that like 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:44.080 concept of like how just broken the reality structure will 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:47.160 be with something like so like clear, yep, that's his 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:48.280 FBI plans. 0:16:49.040 --> 0:16:52.520 Yeah, great, well, uh seems like it's gonna end well 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.840 for everybody. I don't know, what do you think? Do 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.480 you think he's gonna get confirmed? Because he's one I'm 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.520 saying people are focusing now that Gates is out, focusing 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.800 way more on heg Seth, which is probably the priority 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.040 because my god, that man should not be leading the 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:07.399 Department of Defense. 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:08.160 Because he's going to start a war. 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:12.920 Yeah, he's going to He's going to drunkenly and accidentally 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:15.240 start a war. I'm not even worried about him like 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.919 launching a conflict with China, right, Like we're going to 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:21.520 wind up fighting an insurgency against the Portuguese because he 0:17:21.600 --> 0:17:24.960 gets fucking hammered and mixes up a couple letters, Like. 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.680 I mean, I'm also like really concerned about Tulci Gabbard. 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.920 Gabbard is top of my list because she is has 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:35.560 just never met a dictator she doesn't like, and yeah, 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:37.520 that's a scary person having that job. 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.119 Potello's really bad and we're going to get into some 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.919 more of his like kind of crank beliefs, but there 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.320 is a level of basic competence. The fact that Tulci 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.120 has been able to get into this position despite very 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.200 very clearly having like deep sympathetic ties to a sod 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:54.040 in Russia is like, yeah, super frightening. 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:58.120 She's evil but smart and incredibly power hungry. That's all 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.560 that matters to her is getting into power, and she 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.879 has things that she believes and what we know of 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:06.760 the things that she believes is chilling, Like yeah, but 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:10.000 that's yeah, and we don't we're talking about someone besides 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:10.760 Tulci today. 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:16.639 Yeah, yes. Now, since twenty twenty, Cash Patel has served 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.119 on the board of directors for the parent company of 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:23.920 Truth Social called Trump Media Technology Group, so he's been 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.600 part of the team operating you know, Trump's version of Twitter, 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:29.800 and back in twenty twenty two, Patel was openly talking 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.159 about how, like the truth Social staff, we're trying to 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:36.639 quote unquote incorporate to QAnon into our overall messaging scheme 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.439 to capture audiences. So this is this, this is the 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:43.720 section where we're going to really get into Patel's super 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.879 super heavy q ties, which is kind of like a throwback. Right. 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.560 We don't really talk about QAnon as much anymore, And 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.119 I don't think Patel's interest in this is genuine. I 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.680 think it is just to like grow both his own 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:58.280 brand and help boost the stock of truth Social. It's 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.040 still like the closest that anyone in Trump's has gotten 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:04.280 to like openly endorsing q and on and like repeatedly 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:08.560 True Social staff operate an account at q forms to 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:11.320 piggyback off of q Andon's popularity and draw in popular 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.959 Q and on influencers. In February twenty twenty two, Patel 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.400 posted a photo of a beer pint and the arm 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.520 of someone wearing a flannel shirt, with text saying he 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:24.600 was quote having a beer with Q right now unquote. 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:28.040 Ptel continued to frequently interact with the Q account, make 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.280 q and on related posts, and do reoccurring appearances on 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:35.119 Q and on linked podcasts, most notably the X twenty 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:41.000 two Report, The Matrix Xxx Grove Show, and Red Pill 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:45.639 seventy eight. It's been a while since I've listened to 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:47.800 these types of shows, and it was it was like 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:50.960 a huge throwback, ah man, and they're like all chugging 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.440 along and now they're like tugging along better than ever, 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:57.040 which is, you know, not ideal for me. On these shows. 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.840 Cash has praised the Q and on fandom researchers, saying 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:04.920 both he and the President have been impressed. It's all 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:08.240 like very pandering, but it really works for these people I've. 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.000 Seen on social media, on Trump, on truth social How 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.040 could these researchers are? And I kind of wish I 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:14.680 had some of them when I was doing Russia again, 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.600 some of these other things. You know, Devin and I 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:18.359 talk regularly, and then you know, I talk with the 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:20.520 President all the time as well, and we're just blown 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.679 away at the amount of acumen some of these people 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.879 have and how quick they are to grab it and 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.520 suss through it and sort of thin it down and 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:30.480 make it presentable. 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:34.760 Later in that interview, Patel openly said that he publishes 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.960 government documents on his website Fight with Cash dot Com, 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:41.560 specifically so that QAnon researchers will dig through them to 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.920 make QAnon content. He openly said that's like why he'd 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:46.520 like posts these documents. 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:51.560 You see again, I'm sympathetic. Everything I do is for content, Garrison. 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.000 That's just that's just the way the world works now. 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:56.160 The content must flow. 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:57.280 You know. 0:20:57.440 --> 0:21:00.399 Patel also has books just like you. Although he's been 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:03.280 signing copies of his with the q andon phrase where 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:04.520 we go one we go all? 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:06.480 I mean, I do that too, and he. 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:08.840 Has defended his use of the slogan on these q 0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:13.200