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Speaker 1: training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headboars at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Hellowing the sack and now your hosts,
Speaker 1: Isaiah stand Back, heck Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 1: It's our first post Thanksgiving edition of Talking Cowboys here
Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and from the SWBC Mortgage
Speaker 1: Studios at the Star in Frisco. Glad you're with us,
Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's, Isaiah stand Back, heck Ma Harrison and the
Speaker 1: great Rob Phillips as always and well boys, you know
Speaker 1: this last couple of days, this past weekend, the thing
Speaker 1: Giving holiday has taught me one thing, and that's to
Speaker 1: appreciate what I have. And it's to appreciate and reflect
Speaker 1: and rest up a little bit after the weekend, because, uh,
Speaker 1: there was a bit of a beat down on Thursday
Speaker 1: that we kind of have to get to in terms
Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys and one that I know that
Speaker 1: a lot of us kind of wanted to forget about
Speaker 1: as Cowboys fans. Ones that we one that we kind
Speaker 1: of wanted to shove to the side. Well, we're not
Speaker 1: gonna do that. We're gonna attack it straight at it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the forty one to sixteen loss
Speaker 1: to the Washington football team coming up here in just
Speaker 1: a little bit. But first, let's let's start off on
Speaker 1: a positive note. Let's keep things positive because it's been
Speaker 1: a good weekend, Rob, how is your Thanksgiving? It was?
Speaker 1: It was good. I didn't I didn't leave the house.
Speaker 1: I got to catch up on dad duty for with
Speaker 1: the nine month old who's soon to be ten months old.
Speaker 1: So that was good. I was looking forward to that,
Speaker 1: just just being a dad. Man. That was a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. That's awesome, Rob, or excuse me, Isaiah, Mi
Speaker 1: is good man. I got to sit down, you know,
Speaker 1: aside from you know, I did a little bit of work,
Speaker 1: but not too much, man, So it was it was.
Speaker 1: It was good time, spending time with the kids much
Speaker 1: in ea of time. And uh, the wife got a
Speaker 1: new vehicle, man, So everybody's happy. It's a good weekend. Balling.
Speaker 1: Isaiah always says it to us in a joking manner,
Speaker 1: But you can't you can't hide money. Heck, mo, you
Speaker 1: just can't you can't using a statement against him, but
Speaker 1: you can't hide it. He was your thanks it's it's
Speaker 1: it's good. But when it comes down to Isaiah, it's
Speaker 1: rare air up there. That's because I'm taller than all, y'all.
Speaker 1: That's all. That's I'm taller than kind of true. True indeed, man,
Speaker 1: My my Thanksgiving was amazing. Man, it was good and
Speaker 1: for me and my family, we were we're self quarantine
Speaker 1: in ourselves. So it's the first time that we didn't
Speaker 1: have Thanksgiving as you know, the big family gathering. My
Speaker 1: wife had to prepare all of the food and she
Speaker 1: did a wonderful job. So I'm sure wife Nicky cool
Speaker 1: points point. You've done all the Christmas decorations though, so yeah,
Speaker 1: he's already got the Christmas How about that. It's a
Speaker 1: little Grinch tree, the Charlie Brown tree is what we
Speaker 1: were calling you. Why are you gonna come? It's her
Speaker 1: one footer. You gotta get at Chris. It's not something
Speaker 1: to talk about. Okay, let's let me say this. Let
Speaker 1: me say this though, can you say this? I gotta
Speaker 1: thank I gotta thank Derek Eagleton for helping me with
Speaker 1: my whole Yeah, Grinch then not wanting to decorate before Christmas,
Speaker 1: before Thanksgiving, and so yeah, there was a little Twitter
Speaker 1: back and forth with Derek and yeah, so I was
Speaker 1: able to go up in the attic and obviously we
Speaker 1: have the Christmas Wonderland already going. So yeah, well it's
Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving, so it's okay at this point, it's fine
Speaker 1: to do it now. Yeah, it's after Thanksgiving. But let's
Speaker 1: let's talk about that Thanksgiving battle. Let's let's go back
Speaker 1: into this. And Rob, you were at the game, I
Speaker 1: want to kind of start with you on this one.
Speaker 1: But forty one to sixteen, the Cowboys give up twenty
Speaker 1: one unanswered points in the fourth quarter alone, and it
Speaker 1: seemed like the Cowboys had a lot of momentum. The
Speaker 1: last play of momentum swing was the Jalen Smith interception
Speaker 1: and then after that it really kind of went down
Speaker 1: the hill. But what did you see from that game
Speaker 1: and how did the Cowboys let this one slip? Well?
Speaker 1: I saw two different entire league games. I saw one
Speaker 1: game before the fake punt, and I saw another team
Speaker 1: after the fake punt. You know, I thought, and we
Speaker 1: can get into those fourth down decisions. I'm sure we
Speaker 1: will but I thought up until that point, given everything
Speaker 1: that they have dealt with during the week, and I
Speaker 1: think also I want to and I know we all
Speaker 1: want to send our condolences to Marcus Paul family. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, I know last time we were on the show,
Speaker 1: we you know, we were hoping for good news and
Speaker 1: just tragic that that the Cowboys strength and conditioning coordinator
Speaker 1: Marcus Paul passed away. And I think it was really
Speaker 1: hard for this team to get like emotionally ready for
Speaker 1: the game. Just the circumstances around that what happened is
Speaker 1: really difficult. I thought they battled up until that point,
Speaker 1: and I thought after that decision, Dare just kind of
Speaker 1: went out of the balloon for the Cowboys and trying
Speaker 1: to to withstand everything they dealt with during the week.
Speaker 1: And then you lose Zack Martin and Cam Irving on
Speaker 1: the same opening drive an offensive line and your offensive
Speaker 1: line just continues to be just a mess, really and
Speaker 1: after after that play, you know that they they weren't
Speaker 1: the same team, and Washington just kind of finished it off.
Speaker 1: So now we're in December and it's gonna be really
Speaker 1: interesting to see how they respond. Heck, month, you know,
Speaker 1: Rob said it, and I believe that when you say
Speaker 1: not the same team, and I want to say it
Speaker 1: this way, this is I've seen this happen twice, and
Speaker 1: I've seen it happen versus the same opponent. And the
Speaker 1: one was when Andy Dalton in DC took that dirty
Speaker 1: head by the linebacker Bostick. You could tell that mentally
Speaker 1: this team just packed up. They were already on the
Speaker 1: bus and then the plane headed back to DFW. But
Speaker 1: after the fake punt, after the fake punt, it was
Speaker 1: like they packed up. This thing is it's a rap.
Speaker 1: Whatever we were playing for, whatever we thought we were
Speaker 1: in this four, let's go ahead mentally, and they checked out.
Speaker 1: I didn't, man, I was our right about it. I
Speaker 1: realized that there's a lot of analytics, probability and everything
Speaker 1: a risk assessment that goes into decision making and I
Speaker 1: may not be a prone to understanding a lot of that.
Speaker 1: And no matter what you have going going to however
Speaker 1: you practice it, it's never a good ideal on your
Speaker 1: twenty four yard line and fourth and ten to do
Speaker 1: a double reverse pass too. I guess you know. The
Speaker 1: first read was the punter and then C J. Goodwin.
Speaker 1: Either way, all of those names don't equate to ceedee
Speaker 1: Lamb and sequel Elliott none, none of that. And so
Speaker 1: I guess the whole trickeration or whatever we were trying
Speaker 1: to go for right there, it didn't succeed. And man,
Speaker 1: it just started to look like amateur hour after that.
Speaker 1: So when you're a brand new coach and I'm not
Speaker 1: when I say brand new, I mean like new to
Speaker 1: the new two organization, Yeah, yeah, new to a team,
Speaker 1: and especially coming off this all season that we had
Speaker 1: where they haven't had the opportunity to be with their
Speaker 1: coach every single day, build a relationship, build confidence, and
Speaker 1: build a rapport. There's going to be there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a couple of plays during during the season worth you're
Speaker 1: gonna be tested as a coach, and there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a couple of opportunities, a couple of situations where you
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to instill confidence in your players, to
Speaker 1: instill that that rapport with your guys and say hey
Speaker 1: I got you. Um, this was a missed opportunity. This
Speaker 1: was what we're what we're all referring to right now,
Speaker 1: what we're all talking about is exactly that moment. There
Speaker 1: was that was that moment where you're down by four points,
Speaker 1: your guys are battling. Your guys have shown you that
Speaker 1: they're willing to battle you. They've shown you that they're
Speaker 1: willing to overcome two guys. They're two starting offense alignment
Speaker 1: out the game in the same series. They overcame that
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, right, and these guys are now
Speaker 1: in the second half. They overcame that, they overcome the
Speaker 1: Zeke fumble. But then you show that you don't have
Speaker 1: confidence in their ability to then go down and play
Speaker 1: some defense. You have a new punter on this team
Speaker 1: who's been kicking the crap out the ball, who's been
Speaker 1: changing the field of possession like crazy, and you don't
Speaker 1: trust him to change the field of possession. You don't
Speaker 1: change You don't trust your team to go out there
Speaker 1: and continue playing tough defense. Um, you don't trust Zeke,
Speaker 1: your ninety million dollars running back to continue to top
Speaker 1: the ball the way in which you know he's capable of.
Speaker 1: After after seeing that he responded will following the fumble, right,
Speaker 1: he came back. He was running hard, These guys were
Speaker 1: blocking hard. And you go out there and you just
Speaker 1: totally show a lack of confidence to your team, and
Speaker 1: that's the response that you received from your team. Those
Speaker 1: guys gave up on their coaches because their coaches gave
Speaker 1: up on them, Rob, Do you think that's something that
Speaker 1: is deeper stem to, like you talked about earlier, maybe
Speaker 1: the energy level. I mean, I definitely didn't see the
Speaker 1: same energy that was there in like the Pittsburgh game,
Speaker 1: or even a little bit earlier in that Philadelphia game
Speaker 1: and throughout in Minnesota as well. But you think it
Speaker 1: was kind of the energy of what was a hard week,
Speaker 1: an emotional week, but also just the fact that the
Speaker 1: things just didn't go your way and things started the snowball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's really it's hard for me to judge
Speaker 1: just kind of how the circumstances around the week because
Speaker 1: we're not around the players this season. I do know that,
Speaker 1: I do know that after the game, guy were definitely
Speaker 1: emotional about Marcus Paul. I know it carried into to Friday,
Speaker 1: even talking to coach McCarthy and the assistance and he said, look,
Speaker 1: I didn't know how we were going to play, and
Speaker 1: that's think about it. I mean, really, they didn't practice
Speaker 1: until the day before the game, so um, just a
Speaker 1: just a terrible week, an odd week in terms of scheduling,
Speaker 1: I thought, and I know the team has gotten ripped
Speaker 1: the last few days, and just in terms of I mean,
Speaker 1: it was a twenty five point loss. That was a
Speaker 1: misleading final score because I thought, given everything they were
Speaker 1: dealing with in the game, you lose your your starting
Speaker 1: tackles who were filling in for the starting tackles. You know, offensively,
Speaker 1: they struggled, but they were still able to hang around.
Speaker 1: I thought any Dalton played pretty well. And the thing
Speaker 1: about the fake punt is defensively the previous two drives
Speaker 1: you had the Jalen pick almost for a pick six
Speaker 1: and then you got a three and out. So yes,
Speaker 1: they're you know, defense, they leaked some play, you know,
Speaker 1: once again, the rushing yardage, I get it. And a
Speaker 1: lot of what they did is what teams have had
Speaker 1: success against them, where they're testing your eyes and they're
Speaker 1: doing a lot of misdirection and motion pre snap, and
Speaker 1: so that was a problem. But man, with twelve minutes left,
Speaker 1: you're basically saying we're going to decide the game right here.
Speaker 1: And that's that's what made it so surprising that And
Speaker 1: I thought John Fossil explained the rationale better than anybody.
Speaker 1: He said, Friday, you know, we looked at the time
Speaker 1: of possession. I think at the time it was like
Speaker 1: ten minutes difference in time of possession. Maybe they felt
Speaker 1: like the defense was just running out of gas and
Speaker 1: offensively it was tough to sustain drives and we just
Speaker 1: had to do something because we were just overmatched in
Speaker 1: terms of the injuries at that point. So I get that,
Speaker 1: but you you put, like Isaiah said, I mean, you
Speaker 1: took it out of the player's hands, you know, with
Speaker 1: one decision where a lot had to go right to
Speaker 1: get a fourth and ten. I mean almost when you're
Speaker 1: thinking it out fourth and ten, it's almost like, could
Speaker 1: you just put the hands of it, put in the
Speaker 1: hands of Amari Cooper who really couldn't be covered for
Speaker 1: most of that game. Isaiah didn't think go for it.
Speaker 1: Heck no, I just p I appreciate what you said, man,
Speaker 1: but that that absolutely made no sense. The the explanation
Speaker 1: from coach Fossil, I didn't. I didn't appreciate it. I
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, no matter how you time of possession,
Speaker 1: even when they did like in the second quarter, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think specifically. They had a long drive. I
Speaker 1: believe it was like a six minute drive. They it
Speaker 1: still ended up in three points for the for the
Speaker 1: football team, your defense showed up. Those guys were playing,
Speaker 1: they were giving it everything. To that point, you were
Speaker 1: still in the game. Even with some of the miscues
Speaker 1: on defense, even with some of the bad plays on offense,
Speaker 1: the team continued to respond, like Isaiah said, with fumbles,
Speaker 1: no matter what it was, to try and to win
Speaker 1: this game. I think that was the point that and
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about other points in this game,
Speaker 1: but I just felt like if you can go to
Speaker 1: one thing and circle it where the bottom completely fell out,
Speaker 1: that was it right there. Because the team after that
Speaker 1: it was lifeless. There was nothing else that they could offer.
Speaker 1: But also going forward on your side of the field
Speaker 1: like that, you just kept giving the Washington football team
Speaker 1: short field, the short field advantage. And again, like you said,
Speaker 1: the final score is definitely misleading because they were in
Speaker 1: it for three quarters. Well, in Heckman, you brought up
Speaker 1: Fossil's rebuttal to the call, and you talked about what
Speaker 1: he had to say, and then Mike McCarthy also came
Speaker 1: out and said, we were trying to go for a
Speaker 1: big play. It wasn't even like they were aiming for
Speaker 1: the first down for the ten yards. They were trying
Speaker 1: to go over the top and try and find a
Speaker 1: big time, game changing, momentum shifting sort of play. That,
Speaker 1: of course, was a high risk, high reward type of thing.
Speaker 1: But Isaiah, do you give any credit to the coaching
Speaker 1: staff or at least trying something there or is it
Speaker 1: just all bad at that point because of the decision
Speaker 1: that was made. Not it's terrible, it's terrible play column.
Speaker 1: We've been seeing it all year. Um, Yeah, No, we've
Speaker 1: gotten lucky a couple of times this year. In regards
Speaker 1: to our special teams, I think we've we've talked extensively
Speaker 1: about our our aggressiveness in this particular reason. I think
Speaker 1: we've also talked about the lack of the lack of
Speaker 1: element of surprise. Now with that unit. Once you once
Speaker 1: you've displayed that on film, you're as a punt return team,
Speaker 1: you're on high alert. You're you might have your part
Speaker 1: return team out there. But believing me, everybody's thinking safe,
Speaker 1: everybody's thinking it safe, nobody's coming. You won't see it
Speaker 1: for the entire year, and you haven't seen all year
Speaker 1: nobody coming for the punt. We're not. They're not. They're
Speaker 1: not rushing to block the punt. They're playing safe defense
Speaker 1: and they're playing hold up is what we called it.
Speaker 1: We play hold up. You come off the ball, you
Speaker 1: grab your guy and you start you start walling him
Speaker 1: off in the direction that you're supposed to according to
Speaker 1: the play. And your eyes are always on the punter
Speaker 1: in the in the long snapper, I mean the punter,
Speaker 1: and the up back, the personal protector, to ensure that
Speaker 1: they're not running a fake. Nobody's being caught off by
Speaker 1: not being caught off guard anymore, it's not something that happens.
Speaker 1: And also when you make these decisions, okay, as a
Speaker 1: head coach, when you make these decisions, you have to
Speaker 1: make sure that if things go alway, if things go
Speaker 1: all the way wrong like they did on that play,
Speaker 1: what position am I putting my team in to still
Speaker 1: be successful to come out with the victory in this
Speaker 1: ball game. You're making yourself go into a two possession
Speaker 1: game at that point in time with what a quarter,
Speaker 1: not even a whole quarter left' that's you can't do it.
Speaker 1: So worst case scenario, Okay, they get you know, maybe
Speaker 1: they get three points. Maybe worst case scenario, you know,
Speaker 1: and we're still in a one possession game. But no,
Speaker 1: not when you're backed up like you are, you're making
Speaker 1: you're giving them the game at that point in time.
Speaker 1: So there's zero chance, zero reason why they should have
Speaker 1: made that call. And again, as a player, as a
Speaker 1: former player, when you see your coaches make decisions like that,
Speaker 1: it's like, man, what the heck am I even doing?
Speaker 1: Like for what? Yeah, And the thing about it is,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, John Fossil talked about they they
Speaker 1: liked the look they got free snap and the actually
Speaker 1: he said his only regret was was was not doing
Speaker 1: it the first time. I think it was a quarter
Speaker 1: before that because post snap it would have been a
Speaker 1: touchdown based on the way Washington reacted. But to Isaiah's point, like,
Speaker 1: it's not just this year, it's John Fossil's reputation, teams are,
Speaker 1: teams are ready, they are on high, high alert, and
Speaker 1: it's once you reach deep enough in the bag, eventually
Speaker 1: a team's gonna be ready. And post snap, when they
Speaker 1: did run it, Washington's I believe it was their line
Speaker 1: one of their linebackers stayed home. On nice wander on CJ.
Speaker 1: Goodwin down the field. And remember I mean CJ. Goodwin
Speaker 1: did complete he and et Ceterric Wilson did complete that
Speaker 1: pass a couple of weeks back against Pittsburgh. So no
Speaker 1: teams are gonna be ready. I like respectfully, I speak
Speaker 1: respectfully about it just because I'm not. I don't do
Speaker 1: the hours of prep they do to try to pull
Speaker 1: off something like that, but it just did. It was
Speaker 1: the ultimate amnium. I don't come at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. Rob, Rob Rob No, I love you, Rob.
Speaker 1: Don't don't don't back. Don't you take your foot off
Speaker 1: in the battle. My opinion of it, no question about it.
Speaker 1: On coach Yeah, On Coach Fossil, listen up, let me
Speaker 1: make this very clear. As a special team's coordinator, your
Speaker 1: job is to make sure that you try everything, everything
Speaker 1: that possibly could be successful, so that I don't I
Speaker 1: don't have any issue with coach Fossil. I have zero.
Speaker 1: I have zero issues with Coach Fossil. You're supposed to
Speaker 1: throw stuff at me if your offensive coordinator, you're supposed
Speaker 1: to say, I got this play right here. I think
Speaker 1: it's a work you're supposed to pitch those things for me.
Speaker 1: But as a head coach, that's why you're the head coach.
Speaker 1: As a head coach, your job is to make sure
Speaker 1: that your team is in the best position to be successful,
Speaker 1: and everything comes through your Everything comes through your headset.
Speaker 1: When a special team's coach wants to run a fake punt,
Speaker 1: he has to come through you. He comes to the
Speaker 1: head coach and he says, hey, this is what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: What do you think. Coach McCarthy said, yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 1: That's terrible by coach McCarthy, not by coach Fossil. Coach
Speaker 1: Fossil is doing he's supposed to do, which is be
Speaker 1: creative and trying to find ways to spark, to spark
Speaker 1: some energy and get some some positive plays. He's not
Speaker 1: supposed to just be out there just just to block
Speaker 1: and punt the ball. That's not his job. His job
Speaker 1: is to create something. So that's not his fault. Coach McCarthy.
Speaker 1: He needs to take ownership for this, and he won't
Speaker 1: get these guys to ever buy into him unless he
Speaker 1: comes out and says, you know what bad call? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, And the other thing about it
Speaker 1: too is it was fourth and ten, but by the time,
Speaker 1: by the time Cedric Wilson was in position to try
Speaker 1: to throw the ball, it was more like fourth and twenty. Yep.
Speaker 1: I mean you're just so much yeah to pull that off,
Speaker 1: and you're talking about a punter trying to catch the
Speaker 1: ball and run with it or c J. Goodwin way
Speaker 1: down the field. It just seemed high risk and very
Speaker 1: low chance of a very high chance of something going
Speaker 1: wrong in a situation like that. Uh, the fourth down
Speaker 1: earlier in the game, I didn't. I had less problem
Speaker 1: with it. I'm more conservative in situations like that, whether
Speaker 1: you punt or whether you just handed off to Zeke.
Speaker 1: And actually, Kellen Moore said Friday, Look, it's basically said,
Speaker 1: it's fair to second guess what we did. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: liked the matchup on the outside, that didn't work, But
Speaker 1: we're talking about fourth and inches compared to fourth and ten.
Speaker 1: That that just that'd be fuddled everybody, everybody, I think
Speaker 1: across the country. And they both led the thing to
Speaker 1: go for an Yeah, but I was gonna say, but
Speaker 1: just to my point, those are all plays that community
Speaker 1: you're communicating every time you make a play call as
Speaker 1: a coach, you're communicating something nonverbally to your team, right,
Speaker 1: You're every single time, every decision that you make, whenever
Speaker 1: you're faced with these with these situational play calls, your
Speaker 1: team is looking at you to say, let me see
Speaker 1: what coach is gonna do? All right, let me see
Speaker 1: what coach is gonna do fourth and inches. Is he
Speaker 1: going to turn around and give it to Zeke and
Speaker 1: show him that guess what we gave you ninety million
Speaker 1: dollars because we believe in you. Or is he going
Speaker 1: to try to throw the ball outside with his backup
Speaker 1: quarterback to a receiver who has man on man in
Speaker 1: press coverage. Which one? What is he gonna do? Right?
Speaker 1: So again, you lost confidence there. You go out there,
Speaker 1: you run these fake punch You lost confidence of your
Speaker 1: d fans. Who's there to believe in you? Why? Why? Why?
Speaker 1: Why should they believe in you if they're going out
Speaker 1: there and they're busting their butt every single play, fighting
Speaker 1: through at virsversity, fighting to overcome these hurdles within the
Speaker 1: game that everybody else feel like they should have tanked
Speaker 1: on but they didn't. And then you go out there
Speaker 1: and you take their ability to win the game from
Speaker 1: underneath them. That's what you did. You literally took the
Speaker 1: ability for them to win from underneath them. They were
Speaker 1: in a four point game, a one possession game. It's
Speaker 1: us terrible, man. Yeah, it's not good. And believe it
Speaker 1: or not, there were other parts of this game that
Speaker 1: happened that led to the loss for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: So we are going to take a break. When we
Speaker 1: come back, we're going to discuss was this the worst
Speaker 1: game of Ezekiel Elliott's career. I think it was. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you why when we return here on Talking Cowboys.
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Speaker 1: singing like on these reads. That's that's what I would
Speaker 1: equate to it. Hey, I'll be your backing up. I
Speaker 1: got you kind of about it. Man, you're the best.
Speaker 1: Hey hey, hey, hey, as as we all know this
Speaker 1: is your show, you know what I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: because we all got kicked off the show. We all know.
Speaker 1: We all know that is Isaiah. That's one thing that's
Speaker 1: clear about this show is Kyle's show. Yeah, what was
Speaker 1: that line? What was that line during the during the
Speaker 1: shuffle where he was like, I don't have to change
Speaker 1: because yeah, because I'm well. They asked me the question,
Speaker 1: you said, why you get to stay and why do
Speaker 1: we have to go? And that was the answer because
Speaker 1: Darren kept the host on their shows and so I
Speaker 1: was the host. So I stay, that's not what you said.
Speaker 1: That's not what you said. That's not what you said.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that it was. It was I'll get
Speaker 1: I'll give Isaiah pas Kyle. This is a circle of trust,
Speaker 1: circle of trust. Oh, I'm outside the circle of trust.
Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm outside the trust tree. Now that kind
Speaker 1: of makes me sad. I got, man, that's gonna take
Speaker 1: a while. That's gonna take a while. I'll have to
Speaker 1: bring backup dance, Isaiah. I am all heard that. God.
Speaker 1: Oh hey, you brought the You brought the smoked mac
Speaker 1: and cheese this past weekend though, and that was fire.
Speaker 1: So for the Thanksgiving game, Isaiah brought an entire pots
Speaker 1: pan thing of smoked mac and cheese. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: it was yeah, brilliant, and the pounds about right. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, it's a pound cake. That's not a joke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he brought some fire pound cake too. It was
Speaker 1: some of the best pass Yeah. Shot out the Mama D.
Speaker 1: Shout out the Mama D from my facility. Stiffast performer.
Speaker 1: She went out there and held it down for us.
Speaker 1: She kicked. But thank you for the poundcake. She'd made
Speaker 1: that specifically for y'all. That was That was so maybe
Speaker 1: next year for me? And hey, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know Rob, I don't know Rob. I'm just
Speaker 1: here once you're back in the hunt. Yeah, how about that?
Speaker 1: So I teased this going into the break talking about
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott, and he ended up with ten carries, thirty
Speaker 1: two yards and a fumble. That's the lowest yardage in
Speaker 1: any game of his career where he has also lost
Speaker 1: a fumble. It's the second lowest amount of yardage he's
Speaker 1: ever had in the game. The only other time he
Speaker 1: was underneath thirty yards was in twenty seventeen on the
Speaker 1: road against Denver at Mile High Stadium. That was also
Speaker 1: a game where the Cowboys lost by twenty five points,
Speaker 1: but that one was forty two to seventeen. This one
Speaker 1: was forty one to sixteen. So my question to you,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna start with Hekma on this one, but
Speaker 1: was this Zeke's worst game of his career? Seeming that
Speaker 1: he had a fumble, he lost the fumble and then
Speaker 1: also only ended up with thirty two yards on ten
Speaker 1: carries in a game where you really needed him to shine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that the fumble was just a cherry on
Speaker 1: top flour. How bad the game was for Zeke and
Speaker 1: the last couple of games that he's had versus the
Speaker 1: football team haven't been you know, glowing games. But you know,
Speaker 1: if you can, he has built in excuse if you
Speaker 1: want to talk about the offensive line and losing both
Speaker 1: of your tackles and the ability for this offense not
Speaker 1: to sustain any rhythm, and also the Washington football team
Speaker 1: and those long drawn out drives that may have frozen
Speaker 1: this offense. But it was bad. I mean, it's enough
Speaker 1: blame to go around for guys. But offensively, we couldn't
Speaker 1: get anything going because man, the football team's defense, their
Speaker 1: front seven was just I mean, it was rockham socka robot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, as Cowboy Nation, we
Speaker 1: just gotta get ready for this matchup between the football
Speaker 1: team because they're really good up front, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: be They have a bunch of young guys. And I
Speaker 1: know you're asking about Zeke right now, but I gotta
Speaker 1: say this, man, this kid McLaurin, as soon as he
Speaker 1: can find a quarterback, he's gonna be a problem. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be a big old problem. What's what's crazy about
Speaker 1: that is he's their only deep threat right now. So
Speaker 1: if they add another deep threat and they shore some
Speaker 1: things up offensively, they're gonna be yeah, because the defensive
Speaker 1: is not line's not going anywhere, no pain, all of
Speaker 1: those pains Montest sweat. I mean, what an athletic play
Speaker 1: that he made. But this's just Terence still whipping on
Speaker 1: the block. He absolutely didn't know who he was going
Speaker 1: with or four at that point. So, um, you know,
Speaker 1: Zeke is just all of these things are just a
Speaker 1: byproduct of the fact that our offensive line is not
Speaker 1: any good when we don't have Zach Martin on him.
Speaker 1: Is zam Yeah. I can't speak to his to his
Speaker 1: whole career, I could speak to this game, and I
Speaker 1: honestly think Zeke was running pretty darg on heart. Man.
Speaker 1: I know everybody's being hard on him right now. And
Speaker 1: I know he lost a fumble. Whenever somebody loses a fumble,
Speaker 1: I always look to see how they respond, what kind
Speaker 1: of energy that has come back with, a kind of
Speaker 1: vision does he come back with, does he have patience?
Speaker 1: And I thought that I thought Zeke was running hard.
Speaker 1: Obviously he had some the old line was struggling with
Speaker 1: the with the defensive line defensive friend of Washington, like
Speaker 1: they what we expected. But overall, I don't think Zeke
Speaker 1: was running bad man. I think it's hard for guys
Speaker 1: to get their legs underneath them when they want to
Speaker 1: get in the ball ten times. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't you take any starting running back and you
Speaker 1: give him ten carries. I don't know what you expect
Speaker 1: the production to be. I just I just really don't um. So,
Speaker 1: I think Zeke was actually doing okay. I wish they
Speaker 1: would have gave him the ball more and then we
Speaker 1: would have really been able to see what he can do.
Speaker 1: But I thought his vision was good. I thought his
Speaker 1: patience was really good on some runs. I thought he
Speaker 1: hit it up in their hard Sometimes they put him
Speaker 1: in there at fullback on one play when it was
Speaker 1: I think it's fourth and one or something at third
Speaker 1: and one. Um, you know, they put Poller that running
Speaker 1: back to put him at fullback and he I think
Speaker 1: he snuck out like eight yards on a quick little
Speaker 1: dive route. I thought he was doing well. So that's
Speaker 1: that's my that's my that's my take. I don't think
Speaker 1: he was the worst game of his career. I think
Speaker 1: the worst game of his career was a few weeks
Speaker 1: back against Arizona at two loss fumbles that led to
Speaker 1: two touchdown, fourteen nothing Cardinals lead, and the game was
Speaker 1: over at that point. And that's the week after Dak
Speaker 1: gets hurt and you're looking to Zeke to spark the
Speaker 1: team and lead the team, and that was the result,
Speaker 1: and that that to me, was his worst game. I'm
Speaker 1: more so. I'm more so with Isaiah on this. Like
Speaker 1: I it's not been a good season for Zeke by
Speaker 1: his standards. I don't think there's any question about that.
Speaker 1: His yards are down, his carry numbers are down for
Speaker 1: different reasons. The fumbles are a career high. But it's
Speaker 1: hard to evaluate. I know, I know he's paid to
Speaker 1: be special despite the circumstances around him, but it is
Speaker 1: really hard to evaluate this running game this year based
Speaker 1: on the deficits they've had, based on the offensive line
Speaker 1: combinations that have been in and out. It sounds like excuses,
Speaker 1: but it's just a fact. And I just pets. The
Speaker 1: pass attempts, yeah, I mean they what they I think
Speaker 1: they had eighteen carries in the game and it was
Speaker 1: a close game, and so but I just think maybe
Speaker 1: Kellen More just felt like, look, we can't get it
Speaker 1: established against this front with the line that we currently
Speaker 1: have in this ball game right now. But here's here's
Speaker 1: the fact. I mean, this is gonna be your offensive line,
Speaker 1: barring more injury, for the rest of maybe the rest
Speaker 1: of the season, at least the next couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: because it sounds like Zach and cam Irber are gonna
Speaker 1: be out for for multiple weeks, is what Mike McCarthy said. Yep,
Speaker 1: Zach's yeah, that's what That's what we're doing. Man. We're
Speaker 1: data mining for bad and it's just we can only
Speaker 1: go off of what we're seeing, and it it looks
Speaker 1: bad every week, and so it's it's the fumbles for me,
Speaker 1: and I just want that is my pet peeve. That
Speaker 1: is one thing I do not like is a running
Speaker 1: back that fumbles the ball, and no matter how you
Speaker 1: come back from that, and especially if you don't have
Speaker 1: a guy dragging on you, poking at it. And it's
Speaker 1: just I mean they replayed it. It didn't look like
Speaker 1: how did that ball come out? I don't know. But again,
Speaker 1: ten Russian's thirty two yards a fumble. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: bad showing for from a running back that you're paying
Speaker 1: those kinds of dollars too. And again, if it's if
Speaker 1: it's everything that he's gonna do for the rest of
Speaker 1: the season, it's going to be contingent on having an
Speaker 1: offensive line. Let's just say we don't have one, so
Speaker 1: that we can just go ahead and get ourselves mentally
Speaker 1: prepared for what his production is gonna be over the
Speaker 1: next of the over the last half of the season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you still have to run the ball. You still got
Speaker 1: to run the ball, man, I mean, of course, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no you can't reinstill confidence. I don't give a
Speaker 1: dog on how much somebody's getting paid. You're still a
Speaker 1: human being. You still run off a confidence. Right, Either
Speaker 1: I'm confident holding the ball, holding onto the ball and
Speaker 1: tolding this thing, or I'm not right. And if you don't,
Speaker 1: if you don't allow for me to get my feet
Speaker 1: underneath me, if you don't give me the attempts to
Speaker 1: get myself out of this rut, how do you expect
Speaker 1: me to ever get out of this rut? Right? The
Speaker 1: facts of the matter are Zick needs to protect the ball.
Speaker 1: Facts that Also. The other fact of the matter is
Speaker 1: Kelling Moore doesn't like running the ball. He doesn't like
Speaker 1: running at all. He doesn't like it. He's a pastor guy.
Speaker 1: He wants to show off what he could do in
Speaker 1: a passing game. So you're battling those two things right now.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, Kelly Moore doesn't run enough and doesn't run
Speaker 1: often enough to allow Zeke to get himself back going,
Speaker 1: to get himself going again. Obviously, you can talk about
Speaker 1: the office of line, We could talk about you know,
Speaker 1: all these other aspects, right, but at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, your team revolves around the run. I don't
Speaker 1: care what office coordinator you have in there. I don't
Speaker 1: care what you have going on at the receiver position
Speaker 1: you have Zeke, you have a office line that's beat up.
Speaker 1: They will figure it out. They will figure it out.
Speaker 1: Give him the ball. Let him get his feet going, man,
Speaker 1: because that's where your energy comes from. You've never seen
Speaker 1: this fourth and inches? Ye, fourth and one. You don't
Speaker 1: turn around in hand twenty one the ball? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's what are you telling him? But what are
Speaker 1: you telling him when you do that? Maybe we're saying this,
Speaker 1: maybe we're saying the same thing different, but I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that when you look at it from
Speaker 1: from a team perspective, you know, he's not even a
Speaker 1: viable option. And when he is, there's a probability that
Speaker 1: there may be a fumble involved. He's leading the league
Speaker 1: in fumbles, right, And is that a byproduct of our
Speaker 1: offensive line or is that him? Right? And And so
Speaker 1: that's that's That's what I'm asking, Isaiah. I mean, so
Speaker 1: so when when I when I hear that question, I
Speaker 1: think back to like Brett Farve, Brett Fireft interceptions left
Speaker 1: or right. But you're he's still Brett Farve, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like he's still Brett far If he's
Speaker 1: still gonna he's still gonna make some plays for you,
Speaker 1: and that you take that risk with it, right, You
Speaker 1: take that risk with it. But you know he's still
Speaker 1: a dog. Right, So when you're talking about when we
Speaker 1: talk about this leadership and a lack there of leadership
Speaker 1: on his team, now Zach Martin goes out boom, He's gone, right,
Speaker 1: who are you turning to? Who's your leader on that
Speaker 1: side of the ball. I know we're all going to say, Zeke, Right,
Speaker 1: So if twenty one's your leader and you go fourth
Speaker 1: in inches and you don't give the ball to your
Speaker 1: leader when any other coach would, what are you communicating
Speaker 1: to him? And what are you communicating to his role
Speaker 1: on this team? Now, I will say, and I've thought
Speaker 1: this before forehand as well, and I've definitely been guilty
Speaker 1: of this, But I also don't like talking about quote
Speaker 1: unquote leaders and using that term leader so loosely because
Speaker 1: of the fact that we're not in that locker room.
Speaker 1: We don't know how the coaching staff's relationships are with players.
Speaker 1: We can only see what we see from the outside
Speaker 1: looking in. So maybe Zeke's not the leader that we
Speaker 1: think he is in terms of from an outside perspective.
Speaker 1: I know that's kind of a stretch, but I'm just
Speaker 1: saying overall, we don't know. We're not in that relationship.
Speaker 1: We're not in those friendships, those meetings, etc. Etc. But
Speaker 1: I will say, and kind of going back to a
Speaker 1: point Isaiah said a little bit earlier, was the fact
Speaker 1: that Zeke asked for that contract, And a big reason
Speaker 1: why he asked for that contract, the one that he
Speaker 1: has right now, is because he saw Kellen Moore ahead
Speaker 1: of him. He saw the fact that Kellen Moore is
Speaker 1: a pass happy, air raid sort of offensive coordinator. So
Speaker 1: the running game might have been at stake and the
Speaker 1: numbers that he had had previously as a running back
Speaker 1: might have been at steak, which is one of the
Speaker 1: reasons he wanted to get paid. But with that being said,
Speaker 1: I and heck, but hit this too. Offensive lines don't
Speaker 1: cause fumbles. You still pay this guy to be elite
Speaker 1: and to hold on to the football and be that
Speaker 1: bellcal But he hasn't been that all year long, even
Speaker 1: with the offensive line issues. Isaiah, Hey, it happens. Nobody
Speaker 1: likes that it happens. It turns and guys, yes, it
Speaker 1: happens six times. You guys, guys getting a ret It's
Speaker 1: not something that you like. It's not you guys. Think
Speaker 1: of something that he's not trying to correct or, You
Speaker 1: think it's not something that's on his mind every time
Speaker 1: he touches the ball. Now, it's not something he's trying
Speaker 1: to do, right, Just like quarterbacks going on these interceptions tyrants.
Speaker 1: You think Tom Brady likes throwing interceptions right now? No,
Speaker 1: but he's throwing them right. So I mean, like like
Speaker 1: like people get into little rets and you have to
Speaker 1: get yourself. You have to get yourself out of this
Speaker 1: rep but you have to be given the opportunity to
Speaker 1: do so. And you know, when I start talking about
Speaker 1: what are you communicating to your team? And some people
Speaker 1: might think that, oh, you're looking too deep into it.
Speaker 1: Trust me, this is coming from somebody who's been in
Speaker 1: playing the locker rooms. It matters, right. Think about the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks when they decided not to get Marshawn the ball?
Speaker 1: What happened to that team? What did that communicate to
Speaker 1: the team? It can it communicated directly to Marshawn You're
Speaker 1: not our dude. Russell's are dude. That's exactly what That's it.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's are dude. You're not our dude. Forget what
Speaker 1: you've done for us so far. We know that you
Speaker 1: probably could have made the play, but we're gonna go
Speaker 1: with him anyway, just because we're leaning that way, right,
Speaker 1: so it's a lot deeper man. And then that everything
Speaker 1: blew up. You know, you lost. You lost on a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys after that that were a part of
Speaker 1: that program that did no longer believed in coach Carroll
Speaker 1: because of that decision that he allowed. But the thing
Speaker 1: about it is, prior to this last game, they did
Speaker 1: get back to basically yeah, and they were more competitive
Speaker 1: scept that is because the defense has been more competitive,
Speaker 1: gives your offense a chance to do it. That's why
Speaker 1: I was surprised they didn't at least try to stick
Speaker 1: with it a little more in the second half against Washington,
Speaker 1: because you're talking about a one score game. It just
Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't stick with it. And but I
Speaker 1: Isaiah's right, like, they've still got to find a way
Speaker 1: to try to run because I don't think you can
Speaker 1: put it all in on any Dalton these last five games.
Speaker 1: I just wonder how proficient they can be a doing
Speaker 1: at that, because there was no There's no question when
Speaker 1: Zach came back from the concussion, there was a difference
Speaker 1: in the running game, and now he's out for who knows,
Speaker 1: at least a couple of weeks. I completely agree, and
Speaker 1: I'm saying to you the running the ball is the
Speaker 1: alphabet super. Is this the alphabet super football? Right? You
Speaker 1: gotta run the ball. It balances everything. You saw what
Speaker 1: it did versus Minnesota. It made everything right like rain.
Speaker 1: We said, you know, the office, the play calling from
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, it almost looked subdued because we were seeing
Speaker 1: just normal football. But that's not what when when the
Speaker 1: when the running game shuts down, they have nothing. There's
Speaker 1: it's a free for off of what you're gonna call.
Speaker 1: You get double reverses. You got a fourth and one
Speaker 1: when you try and isolate Ceedee Lamb instead of just
Speaker 1: turning around and handed the ball to Zeke and getting
Speaker 1: the first down. And a guy who has as or
Speaker 1: who just came off of concussion protocol, you're willing to
Speaker 1: run his head up in there to get a first down.
Speaker 1: And Andy Dalton played brilliant with getting with his legs
Speaker 1: and a lot of times those first downs that he
Speaker 1: picked up. I mean all of you were probably like,
Speaker 1: come on, Andy, get down, but that's him being brave
Speaker 1: and still just trying to pick up something in the
Speaker 1: running game. Our offensive line is as bad as it
Speaker 1: gets without Zack Martin on it and Cam Irvin obviously
Speaker 1: on it. So how do we continue this? Okay, we're
Speaker 1: just gonna run into this brick wall. We're trying to
Speaker 1: get our offense started when it's not there. You saw
Speaker 1: it against Washington, Man. We could get nothing going against
Speaker 1: this team period. The coaching, the coach's calls, let you
Speaker 1: know that they felt the same way that they saw it.
Speaker 1: We can't do anything with this team. So let's do
Speaker 1: ask your question. Let me ask you a question. What
Speaker 1: was our what was our rushing average? Since we're such
Speaker 1: such an analytical team now because of our punts and
Speaker 1: we're looking at the analytics, what's what was our rushing average? Right?
Speaker 1: I know, three point three so there's three point three yards?
Speaker 1: Give you a give you an inch, yes, yes, okay, guys, wondering,
Speaker 1: just wondering, just hands wondering, just wander like, come on, man, like,
Speaker 1: come on, dude, like it's so much deeper. It's so
Speaker 1: much deeper than just a play call. And I hope
Speaker 1: everybody truly understands that what is it is? It is
Speaker 1: blatant delivery messages communication to your team. You're talking to
Speaker 1: your team without talking to your team. And right now,
Speaker 1: none of these guys on this side of the ball
Speaker 1: have a reason to believe anything these coaches are saying anything.
Speaker 1: If you if you think that your defense is not
Speaker 1: watching a fourth and inches play intently, if you don't
Speaker 1: think that they're on the sideline over there looking like,
Speaker 1: are we running there? Are we throwing? Oh? These casts
Speaker 1: through the ball, they're watching. They're watching right when you
Speaker 1: go out there and you let your old line come off,
Speaker 1: you say, hey, we're giving you guys the ball. We're
Speaker 1: coming right behind you. We're coming right behind you, whatever
Speaker 1: number you are, We're coming right behind your butt. You're
Speaker 1: gonna fire off, or you're gonna go ahead. We're gonna
Speaker 1: throw this thing around. That's whack. So following the fumble,
Speaker 1: there were four carries for Ezekiel Elliott. The first one
Speaker 1: was seventeen yards and that was the one that I know,
Speaker 1: Isaiah you were referring to in the moment as, Oh,
Speaker 1: he's coming out and throwing some energy into it. We'll
Speaker 1: take that one away because there was a penalty on
Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz and it was holding and it actually backed
Speaker 1: him up ten yards. So after the fumble there were
Speaker 1: three official carries for Ezekiel Elliott the rest of the game.
Speaker 1: There was an eight yard run, a minus two yard
Speaker 1: run following the interception to Jalen Smith, and then he
Speaker 1: ran for three yards at some point in the middle
Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter. That was it. That was all
Speaker 1: that Zeke saul for the remainder of the football game
Speaker 1: against Washington after he fumbled it. So there's plenty to
Speaker 1: talk about whenever it comes to the running game, the
Speaker 1: play calling, and Ezekiel Elliott. When we come back, I
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Speaker 1: final segment, and this is gonna sound kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna phrase this in a way that
Speaker 1: I want to phrase it, and it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: And Isaiah, we're gonna start with you. Did the defense
Speaker 1: play well on Sunday or on Thursday? That's that's my question.
Speaker 1: Did they play well? Yes? Or no? Because I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't through one through four play Did they play
Speaker 1: well one through four not? I'm putting it all together.
Speaker 1: It's all one game, So damn it, man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say yes before the coaches show lacker of a confidence. Yes,
Speaker 1: Why you can't just say yes? And then you gotta
Speaker 1: at least get me so you said it was no question.
Speaker 1: I know you have to. It's a podcast. I think
Speaker 1: I think the guys were playing well. I think the
Speaker 1: guys were playing well. I think again, they're trying to
Speaker 1: reinstill their confidence. Um, they weren't doing anything that was
Speaker 1: that completely terrible until they had the meltdown. And as
Speaker 1: soon as soon as the meltdown happened, guys were like,
Speaker 1: I don't care. That's honestly what happens. I mean, guys
Speaker 1: get to the point where they just like, man, whatever, dude,
Speaker 1: these coaches are tripping, And that's what happened. So up
Speaker 1: until that point, I thought they were they were fighting
Speaker 1: right the answers, I'm gonna say no and nope, And
Speaker 1: because you got a forty burger put on you and
Speaker 1: all the way up until that point, you still have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to stop them and you couldn't. So that
Speaker 1: ism I like that I got. I mean, I'm with
Speaker 1: I'm with Isaiah in terms of everything. No, everything, No,
Speaker 1: I'm with I'm with everybody. I'm with everybody because I
Speaker 1: think you I don't think you can evaluate this game
Speaker 1: without mentioning the fake punt. The fake punt changed everything. However,
Speaker 1: if we are judging it off of an entire game, No,
Speaker 1: they didn't play well. Now up until that point, they
Speaker 1: allowed twenty points and they were still in the game. However,
Speaker 1: start to finish, No, still having trouble stopping the run.
Speaker 1: You know, I it earlier like Terry McLaurin is their
Speaker 1: only deep threat. I think they had other than McLaurin.
Speaker 1: Scary Terry. They had two wide receivers for two catches
Speaker 1: for twenty three yards. You're getting beat by running backs
Speaker 1: and tight ends in the passing game and just just
Speaker 1: trying to dink and dunk like yeah, I mean that
Speaker 1: you ought to be able to do more against that
Speaker 1: because that their passing the attack is not what it
Speaker 1: should be this year, and they still couldn't stop it. So, no,
Speaker 1: they didn't play well overall. They are they better than
Speaker 1: they were a month ago. Yes, they still are better,
Speaker 1: but no, but not good enough. Thursday, I would agree.
Speaker 1: I think there's still a lot of things to grow
Speaker 1: on from a defensive standpoint. I thought your defensive line
Speaker 1: got you a little bit of a push Randy Gregory.
Speaker 1: I mean, how about the game that Gregory had, and
Speaker 1: that's something that I know you can build upon. I
Speaker 1: thought Alden Smith was decent and run defense, and he
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily have the pass rush that you want to see,
Speaker 1: but he was good as well. I think that defensive
Speaker 1: line played well, so you have stuff to build on,
Speaker 1: but that defense still has a lot of holes that
Speaker 1: you have to fix whenever it comes to stopping the run,
Speaker 1: slowing down tight ends, and then of course the deep
Speaker 1: threat like we saw with Terry McLaurin. Now we'll be
Speaker 1: back tomorrow, Hopefully tomorrow will know more about what's going
Speaker 1: to happen this week in terms of the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Still lots of unfolding there. We're gonna hit
Speaker 1: it tomorrow, but it is fans on the fifties, so
Speaker 1: bring your fan questions. We're gonna continue looking back at
Speaker 1: the Washington Dallas game, but also look ahead a little
Speaker 1: bit to the Baltimore Evens coming up on what is
Speaker 1: now at this point scheduled for a Monday night game,
Speaker 1: are really a Monday afternoon game. So we'll hit that
Speaker 1: tomorrow when we come back here on Talking Cowboys. But
Speaker 1: for today, for Chris Beam in the back, for heck
Speaker 1: Ma Harrison, Rob Phillips, and the great Isaiah stand Back.
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman. Thanks for listening. We'll see you tomorrow
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