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<v Speaker 4>Hello and welcome to a new episode of this machine podcast,

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<v Speaker 4>part of the Foul Territory Network. I'm your host, Josh Nelson,

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<v Speaker 4>and in this episode you're going to hear from a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of White Sox personnel as we will be recapping

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<v Speaker 4>what happened between the White Sox and Guardians, a huge

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<v Speaker 4>series in the American League Central. James Fige and Jim

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<v Speaker 4>Margolis will join me in an upcoming episode of The

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<v Speaker 4>Sox Machine podcast. But we did so many interviews, we

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<v Speaker 4>have so much video from Chris Gatz, Will Venable, Coles Montgomery, Munatakamurakami,

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<v Speaker 4>White Sox pitching coach Zach Bove. We even have Mark

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<v Speaker 4>Burley also doing a quick interview with us about all

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<v Speaker 4>the festivities that happened this weekend with of course Azy

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<v Speaker 4>Gehan having his number thirteen retired and joining like Mark

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<v Speaker 4>Burley and Paul Konerko from the two thousand and five

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<v Speaker 4>World Championship squad up in the rafters. I also want

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<v Speaker 4>to give a quick shout out to everyone that joined

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<v Speaker 4>us this weekend for Sox Machines to twentieth anniversary.

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<v Speaker 5>Pretty special moment for us.

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<v Speaker 4>We had our Veterans Committee members, which that is part

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<v Speaker 4>one of the tiers if you are a Sox Machine subscriber.

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<v Speaker 4>We always have a Sweet Night every year, so that

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<v Speaker 4>was a lot of fun. That was on Friday Night,

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<v Speaker 4>which unfortunately White Sox didn't win, and of course hilarity

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<v Speaker 4>ensued as job Rule canceled his concert. And then on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 4>so many of you stopped by and lot e as

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<v Speaker 4>we had our tailgate as well, so we had the

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<v Speaker 4>hot dogs and Polar sausages. We had the Sox Machine

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<v Speaker 4>cupcakes as well, so it meant a lot to us

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<v Speaker 4>for everyone that said thank you and congratulations as we

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<v Speaker 4>celebrated our twentieth anniversary this weekend. Of course, on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 4>the day belonged to Ozzie Gean having his number thirteen

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<v Speaker 4>retired and joining in the rafters at Rate Field, and

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<v Speaker 4>for Ozzie the nineteen eighty five American League Rooki of

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<v Speaker 4>the Year, but of course most well known for being

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<v Speaker 4>the Chicago White Sox manager when they won the World

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<v Speaker 4>Series in two thousand and five a pack stadium. It

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<v Speaker 4>was a very emotional speech. You can easily tell this

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<v Speaker 4>honor meant a lot to Ozzie and to seeing so

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<v Speaker 4>many former players in White Sox personnel being seated on

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<v Speaker 4>the field while Ozzie was given his speech. It was

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<v Speaker 4>a great moment for Ozzi and the Chicago White Sox.

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<v Speaker 4>Ozzi was asked about what was his biggest thrill of

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<v Speaker 4>receiving this honor, and Ozzi Gian said, quote, to me,

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest thrill when I see the number, the name

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<v Speaker 4>out there is what it means to my grandkids to

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<v Speaker 4>walk this field and see that last name up there.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the biggest thrill.

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<v Speaker 4>We also got a chance to hear from Chris Getz,

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<v Speaker 4>former player under Ozzi Gian his first manager, and of

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<v Speaker 4>course Mark Burley two thousand and five world champion, what

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<v Speaker 4>it was like to play under Ozzi Gian.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he was nervous and he was a little

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<v Speaker 2>more emotionally.

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<v Speaker 6>They came over, He's like, I didn't get a moment small.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a few times literally going.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, I don't know if you've got nervous story

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<v Speaker 7>baseball stuff, but I think he's a lot more nervous.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, he's given so much of his career, his playing career,

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<v Speaker 8>coaching career, broadcasting career.

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<v Speaker 9>Half his life he's been with the White Sox on

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<v Speaker 9>how much do you think this means to him?

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<v Speaker 7>I think it means a lot. You can you can

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<v Speaker 7>see obviously talking about it. I mean, he's again, he's

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<v Speaker 7>a family guy. He spent a lot of time talking

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<v Speaker 7>about his family. He loves family guys, the kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>the kids on the team. He brings everybody together. So

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<v Speaker 7>I think it meant a lot for him.

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<v Speaker 10>In my office and I've got at home in my

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<v Speaker 10>first opening day was hitting the second second, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>they call everyone out to the to the line and

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<v Speaker 10>I've got a picture of you know where he's acknowledging me.

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<v Speaker 10>We're giving each other knuckles and yeah, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 10>think everyone reflects back on the first manager that they've

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<v Speaker 10>ever had, and in my case, you know, a memorable

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<v Speaker 10>one for for a lot of different reasons. You know,

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<v Speaker 10>had a story playing career and managing. You know, I

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<v Speaker 10>still believe that in terms of instincts for the game.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, one of the best I've been around, if

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<v Speaker 10>not the best. I mean I it's you know, really

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<v Speaker 10>special and and also one of the funniest people that

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<v Speaker 10>that I've ever been around as well.

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<v Speaker 6>He was always very supportive of me when I was

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<v Speaker 6>in the minor leagues to be a big leaguer, and

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<v Speaker 6>even when I was playing with other clubs as well.

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<v Speaker 10>I always look forward to interacting with them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 10>It's really cool to see so many people coming. Not

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<v Speaker 10>only are fans on tomorrow, uh for for his special day,

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<v Speaker 10>but players that have played for him, friends of his uh.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, he's obviously got.

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<v Speaker 7>A special place in their hearts, and he doesn't mind

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<v Speaker 7>been like a five seconds, I think just reagree AJ

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<v Speaker 7>and p Se. My biggest thing is hot about was

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<v Speaker 7>like that's obviously probably seventy five and said, whine.

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<v Speaker 2>We went to Mimi.

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<v Speaker 6>But because he was the manager, is because knowing.

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<v Speaker 7>How much he loved It's like it didn't matter if

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<v Speaker 7>you want up losing game. The kids were allowing me

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<v Speaker 7>to love ost you guys said, I think the kids

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<v Speaker 7>fault you all four don't yell at down and obviously

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<v Speaker 7>having kids growing up at that time, I loved it.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's just it was like he is the biggest family.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy known the man. So that was that's one of

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<v Speaker 2>the guys.

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<v Speaker 11>Said, was off mon Brooklyn and great and remember how

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<v Speaker 11>much he was.

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<v Speaker 2>In pot with them. I remember coming to the clubs,

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<v Speaker 2>coming on the road and there.

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<v Speaker 7>Was a great I think they remember the gator a

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<v Speaker 7>cup full of sweetest fish, and he'd always given them

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<v Speaker 7>an ends at ten thirty at night, whenever they're walking

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<v Speaker 7>out of a couple of candy and mans like it's

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<v Speaker 7>pretty enough the best idea. But I think over the

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<v Speaker 7>last few years of being up here on them, I

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<v Speaker 7>don't think when I was playing on the l I'm

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<v Speaker 7>not sure they really remember much of that, But I

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<v Speaker 7>think it's more of the last couple years been up here.

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<v Speaker 6>More certain every specifically you could tell them this you

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<v Speaker 6>haven't told before?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, like AJ said, there were talking about Ozzie and

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<v Speaker 7>tell the truth, but kind of keep it PG No,

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<v Speaker 7>I like I said, I just think it's mostly the

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<v Speaker 7>family thing. And that's what I took tard because I'm

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<v Speaker 7>a family guy. And like when I went to Toronto,

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<v Speaker 7>it was like my family wasn't there. And every time

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<v Speaker 7>I opened my apartment door and they weren't there, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 7>what am I doing? I feel like a cow's kid.

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<v Speaker 7>I actually have my family here and they can't be

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<v Speaker 7>so just the whole family aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 2>How big of a family guy he was.

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<v Speaker 7>And yeah, me cared about baseball and performing well, but

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<v Speaker 7>it was family first.

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<v Speaker 6>I was a family doing and are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? You want to go longer? Like it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, everybody who loves people who tell the truth, I'm farmers, well.

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<v Speaker 12>Yours you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 6>When people like him even to the.

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<v Speaker 7>Truth, I think that's why, Like I mean, he he

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<v Speaker 7>literally told you what he was expecting out of you

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<v Speaker 7>or what he thought of you, whether it was good

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<v Speaker 7>or bad. You might not want to hear it, but

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<v Speaker 7>his door was always open. You can walk him anytime.

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<v Speaker 7>You might not might not want to hear what he's

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<v Speaker 7>gonna tell you, but he's gonna tell you the truth.

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<v Speaker 6>I can't tell any of those stories. Yeah, now, I've

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<v Speaker 6>got a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Of those stories, you know.

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<v Speaker 10>I Yeah, no, I don't know what comfortable sharing those,

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<v Speaker 10>But I've got a lot of stories.

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<v Speaker 6>I love telling people. I just don't think I need

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<v Speaker 6>to make them pump cash.

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<v Speaker 7>There was one story I can say that was my

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<v Speaker 7>that's not with my daughter when she was young, but

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<v Speaker 7>she walked out of the cluboffs crying, bowling her eyes off,

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<v Speaker 7>and Ozzie came out behind her and he said, I

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<v Speaker 7>think she just saw Rebate naked and that's why.

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<v Speaker 2>She was trying.

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<v Speaker 7>So that's that's the Ozzy story in ours. I mean

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<v Speaker 7>eight million like that and lease of the ones that

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<v Speaker 7>you can actually talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to appreciate the bluntness from Mark Burley. But

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<v Speaker 4>congratulations again to Ozzie Gean and his family for his

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<v Speaker 4>jersey retirement.

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<v Speaker 5>And we'll see who will be the.

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<v Speaker 4>Next number to be retired by the Chicago White Sox.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe Jose Brau. That could be a stretch. He did

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<v Speaker 4>win Rookie of the Year and the MVP. He probably

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<v Speaker 4>has the best chance of the more recent former White

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<v Speaker 4>Sox players to have his number retired, but it could

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<v Speaker 4>be a while before we see anybody's number retired for

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<v Speaker 4>the Chicago White Sox. We're gonna take a quick break

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<v Speaker 4>the American League's central standings. As the White Sox win

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<v Speaker 4>a big series against the Cleveland Guardians and get those

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<v Speaker 4>host game and hose series reactions from manager Will Venable

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<v Speaker 4>and Colson Montgomery, plus Hagen.

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<v Speaker 5>Smith makes his major league debut, and we.

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<v Speaker 4>Hear from Chicago White Sox pitching coach Zach Bob about

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<v Speaker 4>the current pitching structure and what we could see in

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<v Speaker 4>the very near future before this season ends.

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<v Speaker 5>For White Sox pitchers. Next on The Sox Machine podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back to the Sox Machine podcast as we recap

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<v Speaker 4>what happened between the Guardians and the White Sox this weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>In Game one, really weird starts as Noah Schultz didn't

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<v Speaker 4>even get out of the first inning because well documented

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<v Speaker 4>and we wrote about on soxmachine dot com, Will Vedible

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<v Speaker 4>made the mistake in the first inning of a second

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<v Speaker 4>mound visit that required him to replace Noah Schultz with

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<v Speaker 4>David Sandalin, as the Guardians did end up winning that

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<v Speaker 4>game in a big manner eight to two as they

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<v Speaker 4>hit a grand slam off David Sandlin. Sandlin did the

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<v Speaker 4>best that he could in those extreme circumstances, but the

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<v Speaker 4>White Sox did respond quite nicely on Saturday and on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 4>as in Game two, the White Sox were down two

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<v Speaker 4>to nothing as they finally got to Gevin Williams and

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<v Speaker 4>Cleveland's bullpen to pull together a rally. Mood of Takomurakami

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<v Speaker 4>sparked a rally with a home run as the White

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<v Speaker 4>Sox ended up winning six to three, and then on

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<v Speaker 4>Sunday a long rain as the White Sox and Guardians

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<v Speaker 4>entered a rain delay in the top of the second inning, again,

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<v Speaker 4>the White Sox had to burn another starting pitcher, Davis

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<v Speaker 4>Martin only lasted an inning, but thanks to a big

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<v Speaker 4>home run from Coles Montgomery, the White Sox beat the

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<v Speaker 4>Cleveland Guardians five to three and now when you take

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<v Speaker 4>a look at the American League Central standings, a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of adjustments here. Great weekend for the White Sox. They

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<v Speaker 4>extend their lead in the division. They are sixty one

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<v Speaker 4>and fifty six. They have already won more games than

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<v Speaker 4>they did last year, so that's always that's a great sign.

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<v Speaker 4>The Detroit Tigers are now in second place with a

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<v Speaker 4>fifty eight and sixty record. They're three and a half

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<v Speaker 4>games behind the White Sox. Meanwhile, the Guardians drop to

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<v Speaker 4>fourth place as they do not have the tiebreaker against

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<v Speaker 4>the Minnesota Twins. Both teams are fifty eight and sixty one.

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<v Speaker 4>They are four games back. The Kansas City Royals are

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<v Speaker 4>forty nine and seventy They are thirteen games back. Here

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<v Speaker 4>is debo series interviews from White Sox man or jar

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<v Speaker 4>Will Vetable, Munataka Murakami, and colst to Montgomery.

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<v Speaker 6>Last season's win total. What are your thoughts, if anything

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<v Speaker 6>on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's great, I mean it's signals progress for us.

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<v Speaker 7>Obviously, you know we have a long way to go here,

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<v Speaker 7>but I'm certainly happy about where we're at now, knowing that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>we've gone through some stuff here and continue to push

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<v Speaker 7>through and just get better and better, and obviously getting

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<v Speaker 7>our sixty first one today and passing last year is

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<v Speaker 7>at this stuff.

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<v Speaker 9>Seventeen walks in total, I think between the teams, do

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<v Speaker 9>you think like slickness or the money just in the mound,

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<v Speaker 9>like contributed at all or just kind of a wacky game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't have any explanation for that. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>one of those games. Yet put the money and places.

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<v Speaker 6>It's obviously a very important series. So I'm really glad

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<v Speaker 6>that you know, we got to We're just went. We

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<v Speaker 6>were in a bide and could say stringers get to

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<v Speaker 6>be set and then come back today with win.

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<v Speaker 9>You've been one of the most you know, successful hitters

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<v Speaker 9>in the league against you know, high velocity, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>one hundred miles hour today, Like, what do you feel

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<v Speaker 9>like has made you successful against you know, the hardest

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<v Speaker 9>fast balls.

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<v Speaker 2>In the league. Hey, you chaps, we'll kick on.

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<v Speaker 6>Eight months.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, you've look at the good Colt stuffs totally

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<v Speaker 2>to feel the boys feel vehicle.

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<v Speaker 15>I don't really think it's something to be special. Honest,

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<v Speaker 15>you know some falls that you are coming to me.

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<v Speaker 15>I'm able to react on all of time and just

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<v Speaker 15>go through my all same routines every single.

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<v Speaker 2>Time in the lead in the division.

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<v Speaker 6>Can you just talk about the importance of today's will win.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean, I think our whole stretch, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>how remain game stretch it was, you know with Tampa,

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<v Speaker 8>with Boston stuff, you know Boston. You know, that's one

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<v Speaker 8>of those situations where you kind of just like, all.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, well we'll see and you know postseason, we'll see

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<v Speaker 6>you later.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, kind of take take those blows and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>kind of take a step back and to do what

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<v Speaker 8>we see what we did good, and see what we

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<v Speaker 8>did and but uh, I don't know, I think you know,

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<v Speaker 8>it's it's always good, you know, play against you know division,

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<v Speaker 8>you know teams, it's playoff experience. You know, especially last night,

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<v Speaker 8>you know we were down, their guy was dealing, but

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<v Speaker 8>it was just you know, one of those things that

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<v Speaker 8>we've shown, you know, throughout the years is that we're

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<v Speaker 8>not going to back down. We're gonna try and find

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<v Speaker 8>a way to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially Yeah, big swing by Colson.

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<v Speaker 7>I think you know, he needed that. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 7>been a tough stretch for for him here. And we'll

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<v Speaker 7>laughs a little bit, but that's that's what.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got in there. You know, you know that that

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<v Speaker 2>he's dangerous every time he's out there. Obviously, that was

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<v Speaker 2>a really big swing for us. And it's the.

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<v Speaker 6>Difference in the game, don't you talking about just focusing

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<v Speaker 6>on the process. And is that what you try to

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<v Speaker 6>do when you when you go through these stretches that

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<v Speaker 6>are perfect.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I mean it's you got to be willing to

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<v Speaker 8>take a step back and kind of you know, self

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<v Speaker 8>evaluate what you need to do and like what you

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<v Speaker 8>are doing. So, you know, the past two days or whatever,

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<v Speaker 8>a couple I don't know how long, however long it's been,

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<v Speaker 8>but I kind of just took a step back, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>talk to Joel, talk to a show. We're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 8>let's let's look at you know, you know, success, it

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<v Speaker 8>leaves you know, clues, so let's just go out there

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<v Speaker 8>and let's check it out. Let's look and see what

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<v Speaker 8>it is. And it really wasn't anything to too crazy,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, it was just kind of getting myself, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>up early, you know, ready to you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 8>let myself, you know, let my swing and.

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<v Speaker 6>My body develop and and then just be committed to fastball.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, yeah, I guess I mean more just helped

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<v Speaker 8>the team. You know, it was able to you know,

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<v Speaker 8>put us up and put us ahead, especially after a

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<v Speaker 8>long you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know, rain delays.

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<v Speaker 8>You never know how teams can come out, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>after rain delay. But I think it was kind of

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<v Speaker 8>a statement, you know, we came.

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<v Speaker 6>Out of the delay and was it right out of

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<v Speaker 6>the day.

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<v Speaker 2>We can put up four months something like that, something

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 6>So on, I thought that said a lot about us.

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<v Speaker 4>On Sunday because of the rain delay, and Davis Martin

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<v Speaker 4>only lasted an inning because he just got ended up

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<v Speaker 4>being burnt out. He couldn't restart him. So because against

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<v Speaker 4>a very heavy left handed hitting lineup from the Cleveland Guardians,

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<v Speaker 4>White Sox manager Will Vennible decided to make Sunday Hagen

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<v Speaker 4>Smith's major league baseball debut. And what a unique spot

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<v Speaker 4>for Smith to make his MLB debut, and in very

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<v Speaker 4>Hagen Smith's way if you've been paying attention to how

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<v Speaker 4>he's been throwing in the minor leagues. Hagen Smith did

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<v Speaker 4>throw two scoreless innings. Cleveland didn't register a hit against him,

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<v Speaker 4>but he walked four batters, he did strike out three,

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<v Speaker 4>and he did this all on forty eight pitches, so

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<v Speaker 4>again a very Hagen Smith outing, but his MLB debut

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<v Speaker 4>is in the books. He earned the win thanks to

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<v Speaker 4>Coleson Montgomery's big home run. Here's Will Vettibul explaining that

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<v Speaker 4>decision why he went to Hagen Smith, and then Hagen

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<v Speaker 4>Smith talking about the experience of making his MLB debut.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, you know, you have these plans to

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<v Speaker 7>you know, get these young guys a nice soft landing spot,

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<v Speaker 7>and you know, second inning after rain delay is not

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<v Speaker 7>something that I don't think he's done before, and so

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<v Speaker 7>challenging situation.

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<v Speaker 2>And then as his outing unfolded and he.

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<v Speaker 7>Was challenged there in his second inning with the bases loaded,

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<v Speaker 7>it was a really good test for him and obviously

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<v Speaker 7>came through.

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<v Speaker 16>What made you pick him to go to replace Davis

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<v Speaker 16>in the second You know what kind of the thought

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<v Speaker 16>process was with their lineup being so left handed that

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<v Speaker 16>you know left he was going to be the first out.

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<v Speaker 2>Hagen was kind of the guy.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, I was definitely different. I didn't really know I

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<v Speaker 17>was going until a few hours an hour into delay,

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<v Speaker 17>and so yeah, that's gonna sounded with me. So I

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<v Speaker 17>was just good from there.

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<v Speaker 18>What were you doing here in the plumphouse. Just make

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<v Speaker 18>sure you're ready.

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<v Speaker 17>During I was kind of just waiting around, kind of

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<v Speaker 17>seeing what we're going to start, moving around a little

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<v Speaker 17>bit in the weight room, just kind of stay loose

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<v Speaker 17>and whatnot, and you know we got to start time,

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<v Speaker 17>went out there and play catch.

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<v Speaker 2>And got on them out.

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<v Speaker 18>You had three punch outs in your first inning, but

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<v Speaker 18>then you know you got to baseloaded. Just how were

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<v Speaker 18>you able to slow things down just to.

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<v Speaker 6>Get out of that with that gym there.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, the first inning obviously was good and then second

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<v Speaker 17>you kind of fell off a little bit, but you know,

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<v Speaker 17>glad we got the win, and that's all it really matters.

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<v Speaker 13>What do you feel like being out there for the

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<v Speaker 13>first time and striking out Ryan Bokyo problems with the

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<v Speaker 13>soccers too.

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah, it was really cool obviously, you know, going out there,

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<v Speaker 17>you just want to go out there compete and you

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<v Speaker 17>know the results.

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<v Speaker 2>Are what they are and terms to be good.

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<v Speaker 18>Just reflecting on your journey, especially this season, just what

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<v Speaker 18>does it mean just to do your debut and we.

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<v Speaker 17>Look back and leaders, Yeah, it's awesome. You know you

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<v Speaker 17>always dream that's growing up, especially when you get drafted.

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<v Speaker 17>You just look forward to the debut and doing it.

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<v Speaker 17>It was just really cool and really special moment you.

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<v Speaker 2>Get your first win and in your first appearance.

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<v Speaker 17>So yeah, I didn't really I didn't know that until

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<v Speaker 17>I got back in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Club out so that's kind of cool celebrated. Yeah, yep. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Any advice for Tanner, it's gold be him.

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<v Speaker 17>You know, he's really good and just be himself out

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<v Speaker 17>there and he'll.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll do great.

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<v Speaker 6>Who told you you get the win?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? I can't remember, honestly.

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<v Speaker 17>I was just kind of sitting in here and there like,

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<v Speaker 17>because you get to win.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>As he continues to work on, Yeah, that's something that

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<v Speaker 7>he'll always continue to work on. He's got such good stuff.

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<v Speaker 7>If he's on his own, and he's gonna be really

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<v Speaker 7>hard to deal with. We saw that, and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>you understand with that stuff, as it's hard to control

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<v Speaker 7>the movement that there are going to be some walks

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<v Speaker 7>in there. But as he continues to grow, you expect

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<v Speaker 7>him to be able to.

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<v Speaker 2>Tighten it up.

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<v Speaker 4>prescot diference with Chicago White Sox pitching coach Zach Bob

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<v Speaker 4>which he's going to start talking about Davis Martin again.

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<v Speaker 4>We only saw an inning out of Davis Martin on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 4>but in his last start got beat up again, that

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<v Speaker 4>time by the Boston Red Sox, and afterwards there was

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of talk about pitch tipping for Davis Martin.

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<v Speaker 4>This conversation with Zach Bov covers many pitchers for the

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<v Speaker 4>Chicago White Sox, so you'll be hearing the entirety of

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<v Speaker 4>his pregame press conference. I think there's a lot to

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<v Speaker 4>take away from what Zach Bov thinks about his Farms

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<v Speaker 4>White Sox pitchers and the adjustments they're trying to make

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<v Speaker 4>on the fly. Here to stay ahead of everybody in

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<v Speaker 4>the American League Central and still shock the baseball world

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<v Speaker 4>and making the postseason in twenty twenty six. So here's

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<v Speaker 4>Chicago White Sox pitching coach Zach bov.

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<v Speaker 12>That's the plan, we hope. So yeah, it's definitely MANI

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<v Speaker 12>focus and stuff like that. So, I mean, something that

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<v Speaker 12>we're going to be on top of and you know,

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<v Speaker 12>we feel good going to the game.

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<v Speaker 18>The Tendi pitches. What did you say from him?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think kind of similar trend. It's really the

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<v Speaker 6>fastball command.

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<v Speaker 12>Right when when the fastball command is there, it's good,

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<v Speaker 12>It kind of sets up everything. It gives them something

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<v Speaker 12>they got to honor rather than just the spin. So like,

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<v Speaker 12>if we feel good about like the four teams specifically,

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<v Speaker 12>if he's thrown into the good spots, then I think

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<v Speaker 12>that helps this whole arsenal playoff.

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<v Speaker 11>Is a very kind of basic thing. But is there

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<v Speaker 11>fatigue and bound with him too? It looks like he

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<v Speaker 11>looks like maybe a little different thing in early in

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<v Speaker 11>the year.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think it's multiple factors that that's one of it, right.

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<v Speaker 12>Some of it's like the delivery, can you know again

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<v Speaker 12>the deliver's off, But is the delivery off because of

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<v Speaker 12>the feet fatigue, the innings pitched right, generally like how

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<v Speaker 12>the body's feeling right. Everyone goes through like different stretches

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<v Speaker 12>throughout the year, So I don't think it's one specific thing,

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<v Speaker 12>but it is a combination of different factors, and you hope.

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<v Speaker 18>Goes navigate that because he's not the only one that's

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<v Speaker 18>us at this point.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I think we're really cognitive, like the amount of

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<v Speaker 12>throws in between starts, whether that's the sides, you know,

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<v Speaker 12>even like the day afters and stuff like that. Obviously

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<v Speaker 12>like through recovery. So it's just communicating with them, but

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<v Speaker 12>like really just making sure it's like more a quality.

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<v Speaker 6>Rather than just already throws throughout the week.

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<v Speaker 9>Anthony Kay has been really steady since you broke up

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<v Speaker 9>this point, probably in a way that gets under the

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<v Speaker 9>radar with maybe something that he's done very consistently kind

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<v Speaker 9>of you know, it doesn't get recognizing that.

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<v Speaker 12>No, I hear, you're so right right, and like we've

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<v Speaker 12>definitely had those conversations of where he was to where

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<v Speaker 12>he is now.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it gets the change up. Number one, that

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<v Speaker 6>being able to land it right.

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<v Speaker 12>The guys have to respect that, which then makes that

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<v Speaker 12>cutter the four seam up and into the right east

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<v Speaker 12>like playoff even more and then be able to land

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<v Speaker 12>out like the sweeper specifically, So if he's like landing

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<v Speaker 12>the change up in the sweeper, I think it like

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<v Speaker 12>slows them down to make that like the four seam

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<v Speaker 12>in this in the cutter.

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<v Speaker 6>Playoff even more ruston. And what is really funny, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>There's definitely some flashes there, like first couple of innings, right,

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<v Speaker 12>like the fastballs combo and the fastball is really good

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<v Speaker 12>and like, honestly, you look at the line, it wasn't great,

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<v Speaker 12>but a lot of weak contact right Obviously the home

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<v Speaker 12>homer got him and stuff like that, but like we

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<v Speaker 12>felt good about it. He just had a good side

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<v Speaker 12>session and like obviously like we're excited to have him,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, join the Eric.

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<v Speaker 6>Fetty's Sooni is going in the wolfen.

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<v Speaker 11>He was planning on being stretched out and then he

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<v Speaker 11>became kind of the in case of emergency pre class

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<v Speaker 11>guy of this week. I mean, how tough is that

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<v Speaker 11>when you're quest since he was kind of finding a

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<v Speaker 11>root in that kind if he was starter.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, no, it is tough, And like Fetti is as

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<v Speaker 12>a pro and he understands the role, you know, like

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<v Speaker 12>it's got to be flexible.

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<v Speaker 6>That that was the conversation from day one.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 12>Obviously you know he provides a length, but like he's

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<v Speaker 12>pitched in some short inning just because of where the

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<v Speaker 12>pen's at. So yeah, we're trying to you know, keep

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<v Speaker 12>fetty as routine or he does again, but knowing like

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<v Speaker 12>there's gonna be some adjustments and have to like fill

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<v Speaker 12>in wherever the game dictates. Why do the pictures in

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<v Speaker 12>Jos be a connection with there that he seems visible

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<v Speaker 12>he's kept around. Yeah, I think Drew is really understands

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<v Speaker 12>what the picture does well, right, the message that we've

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<v Speaker 12>preached from day one and really like starts with as

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<v Speaker 12>the foundation. But also like Drew does his homework right,

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<v Speaker 12>understands like the hitters and all that that goes in

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<v Speaker 12>and like really easy to communicate with.

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<v Speaker 6>So like I think guys just understand, like, hey, he's

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<v Speaker 6>he's gonna lead with their strengths first, right, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 6>understand what the hitter you.

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<v Speaker 12>Know, maybe struggles with it. Kind of lends those two.

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<v Speaker 12>I will say, like Q has been you know, since

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<v Speaker 12>he've been back, really good the communication has been great.

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<v Speaker 12>Hugh's locked in, so Hugh is definitely making positive strides

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<v Speaker 12>in those areas as well.

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<v Speaker 9>Christmas kind of suggestsing as Castio that you know, he

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<v Speaker 9>could use off speed more a bit going forward, and

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<v Speaker 9>obviously he used to have one of the best changes

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<v Speaker 9>in the game and throws it a bit less than

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<v Speaker 9>he used to. Is that something that can be that

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<v Speaker 9>he can turn back to in a significant way, you

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<v Speaker 9>know midseason?

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<v Speaker 12>No, for sure, Yeah, like we've had those conversations with him.

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<v Speaker 12>I think louis, you know, on board with the increasing

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<v Speaker 12>of the change up. Obviously two lefties, but maybe an

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<v Speaker 12>opportunity to throw it to the right handed hitters too.

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<v Speaker 12>I think part of it too is like you know,

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<v Speaker 12>obviously Seattle is a really good organization, right the devel pitchy,

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<v Speaker 12>but they're definitely slider heavy, right, So it's just like

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<v Speaker 12>that just naturally like they push the slider more so

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<v Speaker 12>like understanding like where louis at how to get out hitters.

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<v Speaker 12>I think the change up you're gonna definitely see any

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<v Speaker 12>increase usage from it.

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<v Speaker 9>Does that change the way like you've kind of turn

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<v Speaker 9>over a change up if your throwing sliders, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>all the time A little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it can effect like the shape of the change up.

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<v Speaker 12>Obviously some mechanical factors that you know, like we have

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<v Speaker 12>kind of you know, identified and stuff like that. So

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<v Speaker 12>it's like all those shapes can have a multiple two

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<v Speaker 12>to effects on like the arsenal as a hole to

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<v Speaker 12>delivery as a whole.

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<v Speaker 11>Remember us watched Lucas Deledo come up, have like five

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<v Speaker 11>or six really good starts, have a really rough first

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<v Speaker 11>full year, and then take onf for like three or

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<v Speaker 11>four years. Is that time to remember when you watch

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<v Speaker 11>Noah just an example of development asn't always linear.

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<v Speaker 6>Sometimes you have you know, a rough nun. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>mean like you can't turn around in the visiar, No,

0:27:38.760 --> 0:27:39.280
<v Speaker 6>it's so true.

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<v Speaker 12>And like Noah, like if you just look back at

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<v Speaker 12>the innings, right, the injuries over the years, Like this

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 12>guy hasn't had like a full season. So obviously he's

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<v Speaker 12>twenty three years old, obviously has has been a top

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<v Speaker 12>prospect all that that comes with it, but like he's

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<v Speaker 12>still getting into his own and you saw that up

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<v Speaker 12>here to your point, right, the flashes of man, this

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<v Speaker 12>can guy can.

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<v Speaker 6>Be really good and then maybe some inconsistency.

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<v Speaker 12>So like Noah is obviously a big part of our

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<v Speaker 12>our future, but like just use this time as a reset,

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<v Speaker 12>work on specific specific things, but also just get used

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<v Speaker 12>to the grind of you know, a season in one

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<v Speaker 12>hundred and thirty one hundred and forty innings at.

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<v Speaker 18>Season, got the decision party seem.

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<v Speaker 12>Just can't read st Yeah, I think it's part of that, right,

0:28:17.320 --> 0:28:18.959
<v Speaker 12>it's part of like, hey, how can we win now?

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 12>But knowing like we expect Noah to pitch quality ings

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.360
<v Speaker 12>for us like later in the year and hopefully into

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<v Speaker 12>the playoffs, so like making sure he's in a good

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 12>spot from the innings limit, like works on those things.

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<v Speaker 6>And then again like he's gonna be a big part

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<v Speaker 6>of us. Yeah, No, they've been.

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<v Speaker 12>They've been obviously pitching really well down there obviously, like

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<v Speaker 12>you know, it's in a fresh powerful arms coming out

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<v Speaker 12>of the pen, so that's gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>Hagan's you know, made.

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<v Speaker 12>Some like slight changes coming off the il and stuff

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<v Speaker 12>like that with the cutter and the delivery, Like, oh,

0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 12>that's in a good spot and like.

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<v Speaker 6>Hopefully we'll see them over the next couple of days.

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<v Speaker 9>When no was so good at the start of the year,

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<v Speaker 9>what kind of does you send them back to, like

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<v Speaker 9>kind of working some things mechanically where you've seen maybe

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<v Speaker 9>drift from where he was, you like like to see

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 9>him get back to.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I think it's specifically the slot's got a little lower,

0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 12>a little scoopier right, which then affects the four seam

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 12>doesn't have much ride. So like I think getting the

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 12>slot a little bit more upright, a little bit taller

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 12>in the in the setup affects the you know, adds

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 12>VVV to the four seam.

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<v Speaker 6>It helps kind of the whole arsenal kind of playoff

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<v Speaker 6>in that like kind of east west range.

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<v Speaker 9>He's comfortable as in the east west sky, but like

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<v Speaker 9>do you want like to have the four singer to

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 9>have the little definitely breaking bolted so if he just

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 9>have that element of north south.

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<v Speaker 12>But he wants to, Yeah, it just allows them to

0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 12>get above and below the barrel. Right Obviously, like everything's

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 12>here and we're gonna definitely like play into that.

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 6>But having something that.

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<v Speaker 12>Goes above the barrel with the four seam and below

0:29:38.000 --> 0:29:41.720
<v Speaker 12>the barrel with the slider football, you know, adds another

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:42.520
<v Speaker 12>element to the mix.

0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:44.440
<v Speaker 11>We've that's a lot of them, a lot about him,

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:46.719
<v Speaker 11>because your opening based starter is Shane Smith's still kind

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 11>of in the mixed veere for sure.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, No, definitely communicate with Shane.

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<v Speaker 12>We're pretty locked in, right, He's working through some things, right,

0:29:52.640 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 12>there's some some some positives in there. It's just I

0:29:55.080 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 12>think generally just getting more consistent because obviously you guys

0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.840
<v Speaker 12>saw last year how dominict he can be and again

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<v Speaker 12>still part of the future forms for sure.

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<v Speaker 18>What if he takes a.

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<v Speaker 12>Bush man the sinker and the change up for real?

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 6>The guy like wants to pitch, he wants to post.

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 6>He's very easy going.

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<v Speaker 12>I think he's gonna fit in great, but like we're

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 12>gonna lean on the sinker and change up for sure?

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<v Speaker 9>What kind of makes this change up so special that

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<v Speaker 9>it's you know, taken.

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 11>Off him this way?

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I think he can like throw it to like

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 6>good locations.

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<v Speaker 12>It's got like late action, right, I think the ability

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 12>to like just combo both of those like you maybe

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 12>think like O the sinker change up kind of similar

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 12>move movement, but like able to contrast that I think is.

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<v Speaker 6>Gonna be like it has been, you know, good for

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<v Speaker 6>him and continue to be good for him.

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<v Speaker 2>What does he say about.

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<v Speaker 6>Multiple of the other night is constantly.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I mean it's a great resource for us. I

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:50.959
<v Speaker 12>think what you see is like how Grant takes care

0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 12>of his body, how routine oriented, so he can do

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 12>that right, he can throw two ups right and then

0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 12>one day off and come back in and like obviously

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 12>Fila was in a good spot.

0:30:58.520 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 6>Shapes and are a good spot.

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 12>So like credit to him of all the preparation that

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 12>goes into it to be able to do this consistently.

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<v Speaker 6>Throughout the year.

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<v Speaker 9>How rare is his curt ball in terms of how

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<v Speaker 9>much movement if you get on it well, being as

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<v Speaker 9>hard in the mid eighties as.

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<v Speaker 12>It is, it's it's a unicorn pitch, right, and then

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<v Speaker 12>I would layer on ability to throw it in the

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<v Speaker 12>zone too, right, he can dump that thing in, oh right,

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<v Speaker 12>and he can.

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<v Speaker 6>Get a blow for the strike. So like guys have

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<v Speaker 6>to honor that plus ninety eight ninety nine, like you

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<v Speaker 6>got to pick one, and like obviously like a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of guys were in between on him.

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<v Speaker 9>He was saying, like sometimes he sets his target like

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<v Speaker 9>at the top of the catcher's head because that's how

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<v Speaker 9>much it drops to like get in the zone. Is

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<v Speaker 9>that do you see, like the way he's kind of

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<v Speaker 9>able to calibrate to land in those strips.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>No, I we talk a lot about starting points and

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 12>lanes and stuff like that, and Grant's a perfect example

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<v Speaker 12>of that. Sometimes you got to start that up and

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<v Speaker 12>like sometimes maybe it ends up, but then it's a

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<v Speaker 12>take pitch too. So it's like, definitely a good tunnel.

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<v Speaker 6>Off the four.

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<v Speaker 18>Really is that something? Thats what it was?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 12>No, I yeah, I think, Like again, don't lose sight

0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 12>how dominant he is, but he also is the second

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<v Speaker 12>year in the league, right, so like being able to

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<v Speaker 12>lean on those guys that have been at that understand

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<v Speaker 12>the ups and downs, the routine in between pitches and

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 12>in between outings, and how to stay consistent, like those

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 12>guys are gonna have been a great addition.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's where Castile will also come.

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<v Speaker 12>In for the starters too, right, obviously young starters and

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<v Speaker 12>just knowing how to navigate a season and playoffs and

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<v Speaker 12>all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 11>You're obviously focused on winning the division going to the playoffs,

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<v Speaker 11>wan Wer of the series in the future, could Grant

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<v Speaker 11>still have starter potential?

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<v Speaker 6>You think, Oh, I think so. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>I think it's just conversations that we had in the

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<v Speaker 12>off season, right, We've talked about obviously the innings are

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<v Speaker 12>up there for a reliever, so there's definitely conversations we're

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<v Speaker 12>gonna have in the off season for sure.

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<v Speaker 9>Bert John Burke, I think looks like your traditional like

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<v Speaker 9>high four seam puts breaking balls out of it. But

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<v Speaker 9>when you talked to him, he's really like loves like

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<v Speaker 9>commanding his two seamer, and he loves kind of like

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 9>locating his basketball down. Like how if he seems like

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<v Speaker 9>he's willing to expand his game in a.

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<v Speaker 6>Way that you know has taken off for him for sure.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, I think like maybe historically he's known himself in

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<v Speaker 12>the league as like a north South guy, like for

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<v Speaker 12>seams up in her ball, and that is still.

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<v Speaker 6>Part of his identity. But being able to out the cutter.

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<v Speaker 12>To the mix now the sinker down away to lefties,

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<v Speaker 12>the slider's been really good right to lefties and to righty's.

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<v Speaker 12>So it's like, again, I think it goes along with

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<v Speaker 12>like just giving the offense multiple problems to solve.

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<v Speaker 6>Throw to multiple different locations. Right, it's tough to cover

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<v Speaker 6>all those as a hitter.

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