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Speaker 1: Guest Alert. It does not happen often. Welcome Bird Gang

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Speaker 1: on today's show, Roy Green joins me. That's right, Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Ring of Honor member Roy Green got him off the

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Speaker 1: golf course. Talk what else? Training camp and his specialty,

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver position. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode six

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Speaker 1: fifty two, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Booda Baker? What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again,

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Speaker 1: so more hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Griolude.

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Speaker 1: Had to pull this gentleman off the golf course, but

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Speaker 1: it is well worth it. As Roy Green joining us

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals cover too. I believe the first time

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Speaker 1: ever that we've had a Cardinal's Ring of Honor member

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Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Hey, yes, the first.

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Speaker 1: Once upon a time we tried when he worked in

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Speaker 1: the building. Adrian Wilson just just could never get him

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Speaker 1: through that door over here. Roy, he popped his head in,

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Speaker 1: but just couldn't get him through that door. You come in,

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Speaker 1: give us our time, your time, so we appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what, Ada was busy all the time.

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Speaker 4: He worked all the time. You know everybody here, everybody

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Speaker 4: knows Roy. Roy had nothing to do. You know he's available.

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Speaker 4: I'm always available.

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Speaker 1: How is that golf game?

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Speaker 3: I suck? I suck? My thing?

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Speaker 4: Now is I tell people? You know what, I'm really bad.

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Speaker 4: I am no good, but I will beat good players.

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Speaker 1: Every dog has his day, some kind some.

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Speaker 3: Kind of way. I'm gonna figure I'm going to figure

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Speaker 1: The timing of this guest here on Cardinals Cover two

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Speaker 1: it is perfect because this is the week training camp begins.

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Speaker 1: So as we take you back nineteen seventy nine, your

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Speaker 1: first training camp with the then Saint Louis Cardinals. When

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Speaker 1: I just put it this way, when I just say

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Speaker 1: those two words training camp, what do you think about?

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Speaker 4: You know, for me, people may not believe this. I

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Speaker 4: love training camp. That is the time, that is the time.

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Speaker 4: You know what you've done all summer, all all season.

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Speaker 4: But when you first get there you're excited to see everyone,

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Speaker 4: to show them exactly what you have for yourself to

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Speaker 4: prove you you know, how good you are, and to

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Speaker 4: prove to everyone else how good you are. If that

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Speaker 4: makes sense. It's just a good time training camp. I

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Speaker 4: remember when I came. Is that year. I won't tell

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Speaker 4: that year again. You've said it once and once it

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Speaker 4: hurt me so bad. But here you know, the number

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Speaker 4: and it was just an exciting time for me. Everyone

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Speaker 4: has that dream of coming, you know, into the NFL.

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Speaker 3: They know that.

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Speaker 4: They've started the first process of being drafted, but now

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Speaker 4: it's time. Can I do this? Can I do this?

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Speaker 4: But you have that opportunity. Everybody says, I just want

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Speaker 4: an opportunity, And that's a good time at training camp

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Speaker 4: because you're gonna get an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Did you have any questions going into that training camp

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Speaker 1: like that, but going in nerves question marks. Did you

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Speaker 4: Well, it's a little different, I think, because you know,

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Speaker 4: three or four days. You know. Now rookie guys get

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Speaker 4: But when you get there, you're all confident. If you

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Speaker 4: and you always pretty confident until the first time you

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Speaker 4: Because everyone's great in college. You know that you're the

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Speaker 4: the best team. That's because you got drafted. But when

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Speaker 4: So it was very, very difficult to see mel Gray Tilly. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you arrive as a big fish in a small

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Speaker 3: It might be because of why they moved me to this.

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Speaker 4: It might be because what't mail until it did against me,

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Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I think that most guys do it

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Speaker 4: who I am. That's kind of what you know, JT

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Speaker 4: and I always talked about is competing every moment. So, uh,

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Speaker 4: training camp is why it was exciting to me, because

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Speaker 4: you have an opportunity to compete everyone each day, and

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Speaker 4: based on what our new coach is talking about, it's

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Speaker 4: gonna be a lot of competition.

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Speaker 1: Competition at every spot. Now, training camp for you versus

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Speaker 1: Nowadays is no, you're you better arrive in shape or

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Speaker 4: They'd be ready, you know, And now I mean they

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Speaker 4: You know, how do you do? How do you act?

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Speaker 4: But training camp is going to be a little different

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Speaker 4: because when the competition starts, the physicality starts. The opportunity

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Speaker 4: a very very tough time. But that's what training camp

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of unknown with a first year head

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Speaker 1: lot of us are just going in going Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: how JG decides to run this camp.

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Speaker 4: For players is want to know is this guy consistent.

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Speaker 4: If he's consistent, guys know what it is and they

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Speaker 4: that goes on, but this football team and has an

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Speaker 1: And so far, what we know about JG is he's upbeat,

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Speaker 1: But I'm sure there's more he wants you okay, versus

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Speaker 1: as how players relate to coaching. Do they need that

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Speaker 1: How do you motivate a player? And that's the that

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Speaker 1: How do you coach to get the best out of

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Speaker 4: Again, I think the best part is to be consistent.

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Speaker 4: Knowing how he's going to be is going to continue

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Speaker 4: if they have to be different but the head coach can't.

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Speaker 4: That's fifty three guys on a football team, fifty three

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Speaker 4: different personalities. Normally very very difficult for a coach to say, well,

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Speaker 4: If he's one way, players who are basically employees, they

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Speaker 4: have to adjust to him, and coach has to make

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Speaker 4: them understand this is where I am, this is where

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Speaker 4: I'm going to be. If you want to be a

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Speaker 1: Good point before we get to your specialty, and that's

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver position. In the fourteen years that you

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Speaker 4: And you got to make some plays. Everybody's real good,

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Speaker 1: Take advantage of every rep you get, because there is

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Speaker 4: You don't need to be one play or you don't

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Speaker 4: You know, do you listen? You know? Or are you

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Speaker 4: it might be conditioning, could be anything. But everything you

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the opportunities here in this

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to a two time Pro bowler, two time

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Speaker 1: I say, you're not gonna like to hear this, Roy,

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Speaker 4: They tell you who was it? Who it can't? Don't

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Speaker 1: I'll say this to you, Roy. I went back and looked,

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you showed me that.

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Speaker 4: Oh fits I got something for you. I'll tell you Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Nine wide receivers currently on the roster. Obviously, the big

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Speaker 1: do you make up for that talent? Well, you don't.

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Speaker 1: He's in a category of his own. But what do

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Speaker 4: If I'm just thinking about the receiver this room, it's fine,

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Speaker 4: it's fine. Hollywood is very special, very special. Underneath, he's

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Speaker 4: I think is going to be very very important for

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Speaker 1: He wasn't utilized, his skill set wasn't utilized correctly.

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Speaker 4: Most was like a running back to me. You know,

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Speaker 4: lot of opportunities. This guy runs four three forty, you know,

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Speaker 4: fine at that room. And Deutsch is he's a football player, Pascal.

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Speaker 4: Football players. Those are the kind of people you want,

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Speaker 1: Let me go back to Hollywood and Rondell. I think

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Speaker 1: And Rondell Moore just has not? But can he stay

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Speaker 3: You're right?

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Speaker 1: You can use him a number of different ways. He

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm very very happy on something that he himself

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Speaker 4: just me talking from things that I've seen and things

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Speaker 3: And I think that might be the case. But he's changed.

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Speaker 4: He knows that I need to change something because what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tiptoeing, oh my, keeping his feet and in bounds.

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Speaker 4: That right there, lets you know this guy gets enough opportunities,

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Speaker 1: And a real credit to Rondell based off what you said,

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Speaker 1: knock on wood, Rondell Moore stays healthy. If not, and

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Speaker 1: we've seen this, you brought him up, Greg Dortch. You

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yes, because he's gonna make place, period, No matter the size,

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Speaker 4: Arm's gonna make place, he's gonna make place. You know

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Speaker 1: Everyone everyone looked, yes, ah.

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Speaker 4: It's not an accident. They know that they can depend

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Speaker 1: Yeah, four different starting quarterbacks last season for the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: an opportunity for him to be that guy starter or

438
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Speaker 1: at least get enough snaps to where he can be

439
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Speaker 1: trusted as a pass catcher.

440
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's proven you know what he's available to do.

441
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 4: Went on the field. There's no coach. Cannon was there

442
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 4: in Philly. He's seen him. He understands that it's not

443
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 4: an accident, and he said, I want that guy at

444
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 4: my team because they know when the opportunity needs He's

445
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 4: gonna make plays for us. Also, what he's going to

446
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 4: do is pass on to the rest of his team.

447
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 4: You know what it's about to be as our head coach. Now, hey, look,

448
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 4: you got to be physical for him if you want

449
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 4: to remain you know, as a cardinal, because that's what

450
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 4: he's about. And Pascal is going to pass that on

451
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 4: the players, even the receivers particularly. I know a lot

452
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 4: of people me particularly, I wasn't a very tough wide receiver.

453
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Speaker 3: You know.

454
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Speaker 4: I think it was because j T was my other

455
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 4: receivering He was so dang crazy and tough, so they

456
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 4: said I wasn't tough. But anyway, Yeah, pastoral is gonna

457
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 4: be great for the coach to pass upon what he

458
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 4: needs to be about. Secondly, he's gonna make plays for us.

459
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 4: He's gonna do whatever he needs to do. Special teams,

460
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 4: he's gonna be very very special. And we've proven over

461
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 4: years that high important that the special teams generally gonna

462
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 4: win a couple of games every season just by special teams.

463
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 4: And for him, Derge, those people like that are what

464
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 4: you need on the football team.

465
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Speaker 1: Zach Pascal, an extension of the head coach, may be

466
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: a coach on the field, within that position, room, within

467
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Speaker 1: that huddle. And then I like what Pascal had to

468
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: say on The Big Red Rage back in March after

469
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: he signed, because yeah, he's listed as a wide receiver quote,

470
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: but I love playing football, so regardless of what you

471
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: asked me to do, I'm going to do it times ten.

472
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: And he brought up blocking, chipping special teams, whether that's

473
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: the return or the coverage units. You might see zero,

474
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: which is the number he's wearing. You might see him

475
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: on special teams a lot, or find out where number

476
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: zero is within the play, even if it's not going

477
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: his direction. Is he helping block? Is he taking away

478
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: a defender from the play to give that pass catcher

479
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: a little bit more room to rome and move that

480
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: football downfield. I'm intrigued by Zach Pascal. Not so much

481
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: by last season, but what he did in Indianapolis for

482
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: those three seasons.

483
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 4: I used to it was somewhat of a joke, but

484
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 4: I used to say, can I change the the words

485
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 4: on my.

486
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: Contract? Please? What are you talking about?

487
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 4: I said, you know, because they put on here you know,

488
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 4: ad a what you name and blah blah blah, countrict.

489
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 4: I said, just put me down as athlete. That's all

490
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 4: I want. Athlete and that's what Pascal is. He's just

491
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 4: an athlete. He's a football player. Don't limit him as

492
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 4: a wide receiver, don't limit him as a special teams player.

493
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 4: He's just an athlete. Whatever you want to do, he

494
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 4: has opportunity to do it. He does it as you said, block, catch,

495
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 4: special team, can return and tackles. Have you seen him

496
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 4: cover kickoffs? This guy's a nut, you know. He's a special,

497
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 4: special football player. That's what he is.

498
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: And the Cardinals so up that they've got a special

499
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: football player. And Michael Wilson, who they drafted in the

500
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: third round out of Stanford, the ninety fourth overall pick.

501
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: He's got great size. Roy six foot two inches tall.

502
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: Again when he was available at Stanford, very successful, though

503
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: he wasn't always available because injuries kept cutting his season short.

504
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: But I'll say this, no, he wasn't a first round pick,

505
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: not a second round pick, but third round pick. I

506
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: don't know if I've heard this much talk in the

507
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: off season of a third round pick. Outside of Paris

508
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: Johnson Junior, who was the first overall or the first

509
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: round pick of the Cardinals, there was no other rookie

510
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: that was talked more about glowingly than Michael Wilson. Now

511
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,479
Speaker 1: that's the off season, that's classroom work, that's running around

512
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: outside in shorts. Now you see what he can do

513
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: with the pads on. But you talk about first impressions,

514
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: Michael Wilson has made a great first impression to his

515
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: coaches and to his teammates. A lot of different teammates.

516
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson talked about Michael Wilson as far as his

517
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: past catching ability and always seemingly won making the catch

518
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: but getting open. There's a lot of excitement about Michael Wilson.

519
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: Well, in everything, first impressions are important. You know that.

520
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 4: You know that's that's probably your wife loves you his

521
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 4: first impression. If it had been different, you would be

522
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 4: so first impressions. But you know he's he's been that.

523
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 4: You know, he's is head coaching Stamford. When he went

524
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 4: to the UH the College All Star Games, they were

525
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: everybody was, wow, how amazing this guy is. So what

526
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 4: they've seen is of now some of the places in

527
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 4: the camp here after mini camp and everybody was like wow,

528
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 4: and everybody around keeps saying that. So there is that

529
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 4: let's let us know it's there.

530
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: It's there.

531
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 4: Now again we talk about now, will he still grow

532
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 4: to be better when he gets these opportunities. What is

533
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 4: he's gonna do with it. It's gonna be very, very important.

534
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 4: But I think he'd rather be that way than to

535
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 4: be a guy as eye. I'm not sure about this one.

536
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 4: They're not gonna look him the same way. But when

537
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 4: they say, yes, he's special, we love him. He's got

538
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 4: a first round abilities. The only reason that wasn't because

539
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: of injuries before. So yeah, they're gonna watch him. He's

540
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 4: gonna get it extra opportunities to get those plays. So

541
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: I'd rather be that way than the other.

542
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: Is that going to be his talking about Michael Wilson

543
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: his greatest challenge now as we move into training camp

544
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: because as much talk, hype, headlines that he received, regardless

545
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: of who it was or what was written, now all

546
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: of a sudden is okay, now the lights get brighter.

547
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: Now can you maintain that what you did in the

548
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: off season? And you know there's a jump between college

549
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: to the pros, but there is a jump and intensity

550
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: between the off season work to training camp to preseason

551
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: to regular season. He's doing all the right things, saying

552
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: all the right things. Now there's an expectation though that

553
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: we continue to see that upward trend.

554
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: And you know, it's all about mentality. It's all it is.

555
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 4: You think about a guy named Jerry Rice. Everybody talked about,

556
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 4: you know, how great he was his first year. Wow,

557
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: training camp dropped a lot of balls. They wasn't very

558
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 4: sheer and he had a decent year, but everybody was like, eh,

559
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 4: I don't know, can he maintain being what we think

560
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 4: he is? And it was all mentality because he had

561
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: a lot of accolades prior to how great he was.

562
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: Kind of like, what's going on with Mike? With Michael,

563
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 4: and so he needs to understand that that doesn't matter

564
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 4: what they're all saying. I just got to do what

565
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 4: I can do, control what I can do, No worry

566
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 4: about all the things they're saying, Just be myself. And

567
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 4: because he has good enough to do it, just by

568
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 4: what he is, what he's maintaining, that would make him

569
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 4: a great football player. So get out of social media

570
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: sometimes just for at least after training camp and didn't

571
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 4: go to work.

572
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: We mentioned Michael size six ' to two, Zach Pascal

573
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: six ' to two, and then some of the younger

574
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: newer faces in that wide receiver room of Brandon Smith

575
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: six ' to two, Daniel Arius six ' three, Brian

576
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: Cobbs six ' one. There was a conscious effort of

577
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: this front office and coaching staff when they were looking

578
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: at wide receivers. They did retain Greg Dortch, who's under

579
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: six feet, but when you're looking at what was brought

580
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: in brand new wide receivers that are taller than six feet,

581
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: and I've got to think Roy that that was by design.

582
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 4: It's pretty obvious that if you were a quarterback, okay,

583
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 4: and they were linemen coming after you, and there was

584
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 4: a guy about the same height about five or seven

585
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 4: year seven yards down the field, would you be able

586
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 4: to see him or get him in the ball and

587
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 4: with that receiver be able to see where that ball

588
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 4: comes over the lineman coming in. It'd be very, very difficult.

589
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: But if a guy's six ' one six y two,

590
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 4: he has an opportunity to see it. It's just coming

591
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: sense that it'll be easier to catch those guys that

592
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: are short yardages of like seven eight nine yards down

593
00:33:59,280 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: the field.

594
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: Rosses.

595
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 4: A bigger receiver is easier for a quarterback to see

596
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 4: and mostly bigger than the deepensive backs also, so yeah,

597
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 4: I think it was an idea that people said, Hey,

598
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 4: if guys are the same ability and he's taller than

599
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 4: another guy, we're gonna go with him.

600
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: We began this conversation about the wide receiver room, and

601
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: you mentioned that this Cardinals team is fine, they're good

602
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. However, do they need a Roy Green?

603
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: Do you have one more snap, one more game in

604
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: you do? I?

605
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? How deep? Is it on fourth and one? On

606
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: the one?

607
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 4: I could do it if it's on the five, and

608
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 4: then if it's on the five, I got no chance.

609
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: Fourth and one. Who you're gonna look for? Neil Lomax

610
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: is looking for Roy Green?

611
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 3: He better? Are you quite?

612
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: What are you talking about now? Of course JT's gonna

613
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 4: curse us out afterwards, prior before when he calls it

614
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 4: in the huddle, it starts, and even after even if

615
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 4: we scored a touchdown, he's still gonna talk to me

616
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 4: like a dog. Why hell did you not get it

617
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 4: to me? That's JT. That's his competition, and he's very

618
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: very available most of the time. But in that situation,

619
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: just chill out, JA, just chill out.

620
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: Have is there have you ever met or is there

621
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: is there any wide receiver that is ever happy that

622
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: doesn't want the ball? I mean it doesn't seem like

623
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: any wide receivers ever satisfied.

624
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 3: Well, let me see in the last forty years or so. Nothing.

625
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, none.

626
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: Every snap, every play, throw the ball to Roy Green.

627
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 4: The best opportunity you can get is get it. Get

628
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: it at me, some kind of way, low, some kind

629
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,439
Speaker 4: of way. Get it at me, Roy.

630
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: This was a lot of fun. Hope to see you

631
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: and everyone else at training camp again. Eleven open practices

632
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: at State Farms Stadium. The first one is Thursday, July

633
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: twenty seventh. Parking is free, Admission is free. Yes, you

634
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: do need a digital ticket that is required, but it's

635
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: very easy go to Azycardinals dot com. And then the

636
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: big practice that everyone is looking forward to, and that's

637
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: the first padded practice. The earliest that that can be

638
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: is Monday, July thirty first. And that's kind of when

639
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: one you start playing football and guys start to separate

640
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: themselves when things become more physical, more intense, and yeah,

641
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: who wants to be on the Arizona Cardinals in twenty

642
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: twenty three, and we go back to that word that

643
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: we keep using, roy opportunity. Who makes the most of

644
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: their opportunity, regardless of position.

645
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 4: Opportunities, And you're gonna make yourself more opportunities. As I said,

646
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 4: when you get an opportunity, you make a play, you're

647
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 4: gonna get another one. But if you have that opportunity

648
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 4: and you don't do as well, you may not get

649
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 4: those other opportunities. They're looking for a guy early I

650
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 4: can count on, I can count on him. You're gonna

651
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 4: get another opportunity. If you don't get a couple early,

652
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 4: don't think you're gonna get a bunch of more. It

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Speaker 4: just doesn't happen. When you're that young. You already got

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Speaker 4: an opportunity to get your best football team. You're trying

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Speaker 4: to put together, trying to get your fifty three best guys,

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Speaker 4: and in yourself, in your head, you think that, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm much better than that guy. But if he gets

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Speaker 4: more better plays than you doing that training camp, it

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Speaker 4: doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Well, we appreciate you giving us the opportunity to speak

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Speaker 1: to a Cardinal's Ring of Honor member here on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: cover two and who is four yards better then Larry

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Speaker 1: Fitzgerald when it comes to yards per reception.

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Speaker 4: Hey, let me put I'm writing that down right here.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna call as soon as this is over.

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Speaker 1: I'm calling sixteen point three versus twelve point two. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's really not even close.

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Speaker 4: Well, I can give you a few more, but you know,

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Speaker 4: we'll do that next show.

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Speaker 1: And on that note, we'll put a lid on this

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Speaker 1: our executive producer, Jim mam Andre Roy Green the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Ring of Honor. Remember I'm prag real Loup. We'll talk

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