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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Day, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bet coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Let's shoot it live on a Friday edition of the program,

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Speaker 2: Merely bow the great z Gibbe. How are you living, buddy?

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Speaker 3: I'm great, Yeah, yeah, I got absolutely no complaints. Mini

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Speaker 3: camp is over. We're getting a second Friday because yesterday

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Speaker 3: was also Friday.

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Speaker 2: I really thought it was Friday in a row. If

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Speaker 2: you're actually ere for being truthful about it, Wednesday's first Friday.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why the hell we're here. I mean

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Speaker 2: I thought we can. We went really strong yesterday.

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Speaker 4: We did.

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Speaker 2: I thought you gave people what they would need. I

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Speaker 2: think you could have ran that show right back. We're

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Speaker 2: under his yoke. His yoke is pedro esque. It is

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Speaker 2: this Friday? Ask a pay? I mean, there's so we're

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Speaker 2: in the endisclosed location on the west side of Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: How many people are are at the facility? You were

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Speaker 2: over there getting snacks?

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Speaker 3: I mean five? I saw Coach Tarvor. He's the only

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Speaker 3: I think football person that's here. Coach Tarveror's here because

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Speaker 3: his son is an elite drummer and is in this

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Speaker 3: very first too drum concert tonight. And then he's like,

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Speaker 3: we're on a six same flight tomorrow and he's already

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Speaker 3: shown me a surfboard.

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Speaker 2: He's ready to get on the way going. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's ready to get on.

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Speaker 3: He walks right out of his his place, he can

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Speaker 3: walk right out across the street and he's he's on

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Speaker 3: the waves.

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Speaker 2: So he loves it. He's he's a great he's a

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Speaker 2: very dude. Yeah, that's one that is probably the number

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Speaker 2: one activity in my life that I wish that I

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Speaker 2: could do, not the first, not that I would do

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Speaker 2: it often around here, Like it's a realistic thing that

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Speaker 2: you could do. Like if I could have done it

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Speaker 2: when I was younger, I would have loved to have

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Speaker 2: been in a situation where someone taught me how to surf.

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Speaker 2: It does feel like those guys that are doing it

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Speaker 2: are having a hell of a time, feels like they're

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Speaker 2: really head.

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Speaker 3: It becomes like a lifestyle that I feel like is

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Speaker 3: very and then somehow you're independently wealthy and you just

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Speaker 3: surf all day and.

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Speaker 2: I know you had some tasty waves. I feel like, yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: I feel like you and I have talked about this before,

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Speaker 2: but I always find it. I just can never wrap

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Speaker 2: my head around this. I've been to Orange County a

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Speaker 2: lot in the last fifteen years, and no matter the day,

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Speaker 2: no no matter the day of the week, nor the

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Speaker 2: time of the day, And it doesn't matter if you're

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Speaker 2: like all the way down like Monarch Beach, Laguna, all

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Speaker 2: the way up, all the way Leo to Leo Correo,

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Speaker 2: Manhattan Beach, wherever you are, they are surfing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if they're all just independently wealthy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how they do it. It feels like

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Speaker 2: it's a club.

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Speaker 3: I think there are two types. There are independently wealthy

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Speaker 3: who surf and go have and have baller lives. And

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Speaker 3: then I think they're the ones who are like, this

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Speaker 3: is all they care about, so they just surf and

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Speaker 3: then they'll eat like a taco or they'll go to

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Speaker 3: Nepte's Nest and get a fried fish platter for ten.

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Speaker 2: Bucks, and that's how it goes. And they'll all live

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Speaker 2: out of a van together with SCOLDI so there's I

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Speaker 2: think you're right. It's that there's a big only there's

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Speaker 2: even a middle class. I think there's well, I do

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Speaker 2: think there is the other thing about the West Coast

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Speaker 2: that it has going for it is like, if you're

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Speaker 2: in the financial sector, the markets close at four, so

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Speaker 2: you're one o'clock. I'm gone, I'll see you. I'll see

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Speaker 2: on down the road. Yeah, so that's a bit of

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Speaker 2: a win. I think, too agreed, But that is definitely

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Speaker 2: an activity that I that I would have liked to

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Speaker 2: have done. Certainly. Is that so? Yeah, I mean it's

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Speaker 2: the rest of most of the rest of the nfling.

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Speaker 2: There's twenty some teams next week that have their mini

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Speaker 2: camps next week, but we're early because we're nemicol inning

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Speaker 2: and or not nemicol inning. That's the other one. They

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Speaker 2: should give give us something that's free pub for them.

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Speaker 2: Used to have deals with them, didn't she give me?

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Speaker 2: We did we had a Ryder Cup tournament. Yeah, why

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Speaker 2: we bring that back.

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Speaker 3: Let's do that. I'd like that, and I'd like some

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Speaker 3: some power washing. Those two even if it's perfect, another

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Speaker 3: week off those two things would be good. I think

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Speaker 2: Yeah, earned that. I still won't even use all my

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Speaker 2: bad When did you do the Ryder Cup. What time

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Speaker 2: of year did you go over there? Uh?

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Speaker 4: It was usually in the summer, go over in the summer. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think that at one point there was a fall.

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Speaker 4: I think there was a fall one actually, I take

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Speaker 4: that back. It started in the spring. Yeah, it's like

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Speaker 4: late spring, like May June, and the weather was a

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And because this is their peak. Yeah, so they

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Speaker 2: probably want you guys there in like May so that

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Speaker 2: they could get a little pub for summer months for sure. That. Uh.

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Speaker 2: The eighty four Lumber Course there is a full day

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Speaker 2: and that's where we played to them. It was built

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Speaker 2: for John Daily. Yeah, yeah, but you're great, like if

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Speaker 2: you better me, you're great, you better me.

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Speaker 3: No, it's a full day. It was the longest course

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Speaker 3: on tour for wasn't really a long time.

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Speaker 2: It was built that way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was built to be the longest course on

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Speaker 3: tour to be set up for John Daly's.

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Speaker 2: Game four Lumber Guy.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it is eighty four Lumber Classic ski there

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Speaker 3: and it was I think seventy eight hundred yards from

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Speaker 3: the tips. That's why you got that John Daily statue

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Speaker 3: in there. I like, literally it was built for yeah

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Speaker 3: him and bombs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, oh yeah. I played it from the tips.

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Speaker 2: It's absurd. Yeah yeah. I think I shot like eighty

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Speaker 3: Then I played it from one up, which was still

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Speaker 3: seventy four seventy five hundred, and I was able to

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Speaker 3: get in the seventies.

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Speaker 2: There were many instances where so I would have done

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Speaker 2: the members played with the boys, and you know, they

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Speaker 2: weren't at that time, two or three years ago. They

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Speaker 2: just picked what looked like member tees to me, and

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Speaker 2: every time I would get to a second shot, it'd

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Speaker 2: three wood? Really, are we sure? Yeah? There were There

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Speaker 2: are some par fours that are long monsters.

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Speaker 3: There's one par five that I think of in my

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Speaker 3: mind is like the back of the property words the

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Speaker 3: and it goes the whole length kind of downhill. I

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Speaker 3: remember I had to hit my ball hung on the

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Speaker 3: edge of a bunker that was like a huge pick bunker,

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Speaker 3: and I had to hit a left handed to flip

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Speaker 3: the club and hit a left handed chip.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I remember, I remember that course. I like that.

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Speaker 2: The other one, they're both really they read the other

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Speaker 2: I've never played.

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Speaker 3: I haven't played the second one since they redid it

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Speaker 3: and made it also very nice.

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Speaker 2: It's nice. Yeah, they're both really nice. It's a nice property.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, we'll be at the Greenbrier, which is also

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Speaker 2: a nice property. When I was at yeah last summer,

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Speaker 2: three golf courses four. If you have the right connections,

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Speaker 2: because you got the sneed as well. So I want

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Speaker 2: to get on that snide. I feel like you will.

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Speaker 2: I think that that's been known and I think I

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Speaker 2: think so. I think you can make that.

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Speaker 3: Seeds have been planted, and there's interest abounding with people

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Speaker 3: who I believe iluminary, who I believe would have necessary means,

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Speaker 3: necessary means to make it done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the for sure. And I also think if memory

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Speaker 2: serves well, I know this for fact. The guy who's

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Speaker 2: the pro there is a huge uh he's a huge

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Speaker 2: Buckeye guy. But Dad is a big Browns guy. Because

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Speaker 2: like it, when I went down there again, I was

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Speaker 2: with the boy, playing with the boy, and he was

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Speaker 2: like he knew who I was as soon as I

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Speaker 2: walked in the pro shop and he was like, I

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Speaker 2: got youa fantastic Wow.

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Speaker 4: You like that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, so that was good. So that was really nice.

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Speaker 2: So that but that's not that far off, No, it

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Speaker 3: Instead, I'm trying to get the Mystic Ruck scorecard and

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Speaker 3: I I want to see it.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a big boy. No.

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Speaker 3: I mean it was the longest course on tour. I

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Speaker 3: mean it has been obviously things have changed since then,

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Speaker 3: but it was the longest course on tour period, so

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Speaker 3: that is legit.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I have this. Uh yeah, I got

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Speaker 2: it right here for you buddy. Um, all right, you go.

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Speaker 2: So I assume, all right, Championship now, so they brought

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Speaker 2: it back. Championship is now seven, okay, so this is

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Speaker 2: Championship is seventy five sixteen. The black is seventy four

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Speaker 2: thirty three. So they moved so that they moved the

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Speaker 2: championship up.

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Speaker 2: But the black, which you'd be considered the member tees

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Speaker 2: are it's the same seventy four hundred.

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Speaker 3: Seventy four hundred yards.

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Speaker 2: That is a full so full day.

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Speaker 3: So uh, just to get people for the rating is

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Speaker 3: seventy seven and the slope is one forty nine, so

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Speaker 3: it's a high slope, and then seventy seven means that's

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Speaker 3: what they would expect a scratch golfer to shoot from

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Speaker 3: those teas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is high. That's pretty brutal. Yeah, absolutely brutal. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: four oh nine, four seventy three, two thirty one. Part

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Speaker 2: three I remember those being long too, five ninety eight,

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Speaker 2: four ten, two twenty three, five forty five, four seventy six,

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Speaker 2: four seventy six. Part four is a full. That's that's

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Speaker 2: a big one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh, there's a four seventy six and a four to

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Speaker 2: seventy three on the front. A six thirty four is eleven,

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Speaker 2: is six thirty four. Can I interest you in now?

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Speaker 1: Yees?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big that's a big in. That's your

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Speaker 2: big boy right there for sure.

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Speaker 4: All Right.

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Speaker 2: So then you're at six thirty four, four sixty five,

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Speaker 2: four sixty five, five twenty five, four sixty eight, so

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Speaker 2: you have five par fours more than four and sixty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so fuckle up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even if you're hitting it two point eighty off

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Speaker 3: the t, you're still you know, yeah, seven sixty five

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Speaker 2: I had one of the most out wedge not wedge, No no,

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Speaker 2: no No. I had one of the most unique and

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Speaker 2: stupefying viewing experiences in my life. Last night I watched

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Speaker 2: a little of the Stanley Cup Final, which was which

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Speaker 2: was the thing went from series was over to they

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Speaker 2: What they did is they let schools protect certain rivalries.

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Speaker 2: Lifting these teams up. My biggest beef with this is

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Speaker 2: These teams, all these schools that I've been mentioning, have

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Speaker 4: Every school year. Listing is better off as a basketball

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Speaker 3: By the way I tossed them out Nebraska. Yeah, yeah,

435
00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,919
Speaker 3: Well they just get everybody who's not original out and

436
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 3: only have at it. So that'd be Rutgers, Maryland, Nebraska.

437
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:03,679
Speaker 3: Who is there anybody else that's in the right now

438
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 3: that not original? At least three teams at least gets

439
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 3: three teams off everybody's schedule.

440
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 4: If you're the schedule maker, you go through and you

441
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 4: go all right, each team, who's your one rival, like

442
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 4: we're going to keep the rivals like, and then you

443
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 4: can figure out if you want to protect the team

444
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 4: like they should have gone through and gone Ohio State,

445
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 4: Michigan's and no brainer. So Ohio State, which game were

446
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 4: we protecting them? Which team will we protecting them from?

447
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: The teams? Why would they get protected? Penn State was

448
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 2: the one that they wanted, that was the second most

449
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 2: important game. There you go, So why would the Big

450
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: ten go against Ohio State's wishes?

451
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 3: Ohio they should say, all right for the next given

452
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 3: the state of everything for the next decade, Ohio State,

453
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 3: you get the top four, so you get Michigan, Penn State,

454
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 3: USC was his Wisconsin the fourth team. Probably you get

455
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 3: those four every year we didn't have that's only four

456
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 3: games that you can play, Yes, so you got to

457
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 3: have your best four teams playing each other every year.

458
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 4: That's what the SEC seems to do.

459
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: Well, they're gonna and they're gonna lap the field. And

460
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 2: the only way that this ever changes, like Ohio State's

461
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 2: non conference schedule next year is laughable. Southern miss Western Michigan, Marshall.

462
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 3: That's why don't they just go back to divisions and

463
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,719
Speaker 3: put all the bad teams in one division and all

464
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:19,959
Speaker 3: the good teams in the other division.

465
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Speaker 2: Well, like the Premier League they'll never do that because

466
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 2: they don't. Nobody wants to play a slobber knocker every week.

467
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 2: But you can balance it. Here's what I would say

468
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 2: if they really wanted to do something grand. Here, make

469
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 2: every game a Big Ten game and play twelve Big

470
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: Ten games. You know why the Big Ten has more

471
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 2: trash than any league in the country, or at least

472
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Speaker 2: as much. Illinois, Northwestern, Rutgers, Indiana, Minnesota, Nebraska, Maryland, Purdue.

473
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: That's eight programs that the ceiling is nine and three

474
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 2: like that you stop for I don't know why I

475
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 2: like that. And then then you've got Iowa and Michigan State,

476
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,479
Speaker 2: who are okay, they're all right, they're okay.

477
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,959
Speaker 4: Any given year they're fine, they're fine.

478
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 3: But like Michigan State, by the way, needs to play

479
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 3: USC every year because you need to have the Spartans

480
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 3: versus the Trojans every year.

481
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 2: Troy versus Sparta.

482
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 3: Yes, and you need to have I saw I'm stealing this.

483
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: I did see this.

484
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 3: But there has to be a Trojan Horse trophy and

485
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: they need to play that game every year.

486
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Speaker 2: So they didn't force a rivalry on either USC or UCLA.

487
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: So they forced like for Nebraska, they force fed Iowa

488
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 2: to them. They did not do that for either USC

489
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 2: or UCLA. They would play each other and that's it,

490
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 2: and then they rotate everybody else through.

491
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Speaker 3: You brought USC in as a haymaker move, and UCLA

492
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 3: came along with it because of proximity. So you need

493
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 3: USC to be playing your top schools every year.

494
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Speaker 2: The idea that in year one Ohio State doesn't play

495
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 2: USC is just laughable.

496
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Speaker 3: It would be one thing if this was pro wrestling,

497
00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 3: and so that they could say, you know, next year

498
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: for the first time ever or you know, once in

499
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 3: a lifetime, blah blah blah. You're trying to build one up,

500
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: but you're not. You need these two teams to be

501
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: pillars of what you're doing.

502
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 4: Now there's still a big ten championship game.

503
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: Well that's the other thing, so you're still d Yeah,

504
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: but they're doing that on tie breakers. So that the

505
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: problem is is you could play Ohio State Michigan back

506
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 2: to back weeks, yeah, and that will minimize that rivalry.

507
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: There's no question. There's no question. Because if this were

508
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: last year, they would have played in Columbus and they

509
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 2: played the next week Indiana Indiana, So that will minimize

510
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 2: that game. This isn't hard. No, they overthought it by

511
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 2: one thousand percent and they did it. They're trying to

512
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: provide a maximum amount of eyeballs with the idea of

513
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 2: certain people will watch these games no matter what.

514
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 3: But even to your point, if they played the four

515
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 3: games that were that good, there's eight that aren't. Yes, yeah,

516
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 3: question how many teams are in this total right now?

517
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: Sixteen sixteen? Could you do four divisions of four and

518
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 3: obviously load up one the Buckeye's division Ohio State, Michigan

519
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: USC Wisconsin so they all play each other every year

520
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 3: or Penn sen Station sorry, Penn State have them, so

521
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 3: they all play each other every year, locked guaranteed, and

522
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: then you anchor the other divisions with the Wisconsin gets

523
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 3: anchor division.

524
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Speaker 4: I don't know who.

525
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: UCLA probably anchors a division, and then maybe eventually you

526
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 3: get Stanford Cal or whatever and you put them in one.

527
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 3: But make sure that you have this group that plays

528
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 3: each other. And then for the playoff, you could do

529
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 3: the top two division winners with tiebreakers so that that

530
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 3: it would be impossible for Ohio State Michigan to play

531
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Speaker 3: each other and then play in the conference championship.

532
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: They could have even done. It would have been very simple,

533
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: like they could have just kept it first of all

534
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 2: the other real quickly. This proves beyond a shadow of

535
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 2: doubt because Jean Smith, the athletic director of High State,

536
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: said this yesterday that they were trying to they don't

537
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,719
Speaker 2: want to go to to La twice. Well, are going

538
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 2: to have to come all the time, all the time.

539
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: So it articulates. He articulates without saying it that they

540
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 2: have got to get more schools out west. So they've

541
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 2: got to take Washington and Oregon, and maybe they take

542
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: Stanford and cal too. Maybe they go all the way

543
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 2: to twenty and at that point maybe it splits along

544
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 2: a different line and you can go east west, and

545
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: USC anchors the west, which is largely mostly the Pac twelve.

546
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 2: You put Nebraska, Minnesota in there with Wisconsin and Iowa,

547
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: and that's the West. They're all playing for one but

548
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: the crossover. To your point, there should never be a

549
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 2: year on a schedule where Ohio State does not play Michigan,

550
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: Penn State, in USC. They should play those three teams

551
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: every year locked because the rest of this league is

552
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 2: bad enough that you can afford it. And as you

553
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: go to a twelve team playoff. You don't even have

554
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: to be perfect anymore. You don't. So it was a

555
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: they dropped the ball as big as it can be dry.

556
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: What's the kind of as you outrage? Yeah, that's outrage?

557
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 2: Is how do you walk how do you walk up

558
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: to somebody buying tickets at Ohio Stadium and say.

559
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: What I just I mean, you're going to see a

560
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 3: bunch of garbage? And don't you think that on some level?

561
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: I think you're hurt? Okay, are you hurting recruiting?

562
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 2: This is a hot yes, because you're playing meaningless games. Yes,

563
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 2: you are going to hurt recruiting. What does that say

564
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: right here? Pick three mini plans? Okay, So you can

565
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: buy Ohio State football tickets on the Ohio State website

566
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: for this season right now, you can buy them. I

567
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: know this has been the case your whole life. It's

568
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: been my case most of the time I was here,

569
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: but most of the time that I've been in this state.

570
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 2: You cannot buy Ohio State tickets. Single game tickets, Are

571
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 2: you kidding me? None? Season tickets, no chance, many packets. No,

572
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: there are no tickets. The only way you go to

573
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: Ohio State football game. When I first got here, and No.

574
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 2: Seven until probably fifteen or sixteen was secondary market.

575
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 4: That was it, or you knew someone that had them.

576
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: Right, but you weren't going out and buying them, and

577
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: saying is this because the sket it's because the schedule

578
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 2: has been trash. Yeah, fans are not gonna sit in

579
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: an archaic stadium with no seatbacks and terrible bathrooms and

580
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: an inability to get food out, food and beverage. They're

581
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: not gonna pay the threemium for it. Can you get booze?

582
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: Even you can? Okay, you can, now that's recent. The

583
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 2: other thing is when I first got I went, and

584
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: you couldn't. When I first got there, and what when

585
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: I first got there in O seven, every ticket was

586
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 2: sixty three bucks, no matter the game, every ticket was

587
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,239
Speaker 2: sixty three bucks. Well, now the Michigan games like two

588
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: fifty yep. Yeah, and they do all this flex pricing.

589
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 2: So fans like, uh, we're good, We're not doing it.

590
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 4: My buddy and his wife are are big time donors

591
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: to the university. Like the academia side, they were on

592
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 4: a ten year wait list for season tickets. They finally

593
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 4: were like, eh, nah, you could not get big ambulance

594
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 4: that Okay, we'll just tailgate and watch the game in

595
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 4: the parking lot.

596
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know that.

597
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need to have the year that you play

598
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 3: Michigan at home. Maybe you'd play Michigan in Wisconsin at

599
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: home that year, and then every other year you know,

600
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 3: you're getting USC and Penn State at home.

601
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: Yes, and that's how you well, that's how they've always

602
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: built the schedule is either Penn State or Michigan is

603
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: at home every year, right, and now that won't be.

604
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 3: The case, and I would put with Michigan Wisconsin, and

605
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: I would put with Penn State USC.

606
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

607
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: Now you're guaranteed two good, two good games at home

608
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 2: every year every year.

609
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: And the one that you can say, all right, maybe

610
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: Wisconsin isn't as good as the other two.

611
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: You're getting the game, right, the big game. Yeah, and

612
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: now they're and now they're not, so they botched it

613
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: as big as can be.

614
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: That's stunning because your competition, if you're the Big ten,

615
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 3: what you're trying to compete with, in reality is the SEC.

616
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: And the SEC does a very good job of making

617
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 3: sure there are these big games. And maybe it's because

618
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: there's much more depth in terms of quality teams.

619
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: Also, those schools in the SEC, since they've been cashing

620
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: this checks for all these years, have gotten exponentially better. Yeah,

621
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 2: Mississippi State, Yeah, Ole, miss LSU, Georgia, they're better than

622
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: they were ten years ago. Significant so to where they're

623
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 2: putting a lot of guys in the league, Misissippi State.

624
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: Look at the guys at Missippi States putting the league

625
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: the last five or six years on the defensive.

626
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 4: Side of the ball.

627
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: Get alone, Dak and everything. I mean a ton of town. Yeah,

628
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: think about think about even Kentucky. Well, Kentucky in the

629
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: last ten years, they took their money and they invested

630
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,719
Speaker 2: it into their programs. They're not just paying coaches arbitrarily

631
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: to pay him, they're putting the money into the programs

632
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 2: and they're all better off. And it's not just football.

633
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: They're good at women's basketball, they're good at men's basketball,

634
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: they're good at college baseball, all of it. And a

635
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: big ten is just stuffed. That is the new commissioner,

636
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 2: new commissioner. But everybody says that he's just they got

637
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: a mess. He's apparently got a mess on his hand.

638
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: Kevin Warren, who somehow everything, somehow failed up and is

639
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: now running the Bears. That guy left a mess, and

640
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: they're basically their their whole excuses like we're just trying

641
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: to clean up his mess. I mean, you guys saw

642
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: that he sold. He sold something had a right to sell,

643
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: sold the twenty twenty six Big Ten Championship game to NBC.

644
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: You didn't have the rights to sell it. Fox owned

645
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: it and they put it in the package to NBC.

646
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: So NBC the Big Ten schools at the pay Fox

647
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: like forty million to make it right because this guy

648
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: sold something that Fox owned to NBC and put it

649
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: in the deal. Jeez, crazy crazy. So anyway, my word

650
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Speaker 2: and your top five players of the Browns Mini Camp

665
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: not named Deshaun Watson. All right, dude, Gibbe, do you

666
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: honest to go from five to one? Yeah?

667
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: I do you?

668
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: You would like that.

669
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 4: I'd prefer that there you go.

670
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 5: Number five, number five, number five.

671
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: Yes, there it is. I had to wait for it

672
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: a little bit.

673
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: Number five to me in our countdown of the top

674
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: five players of Brown's Mini camp is going to be

675
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 3: Cedric Tillman.

676
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 2: Oh ohedc the young rook.

677
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: The young rookie receiver. I like the way he runs

678
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: his routes. I like the way that he's catching the football.

679
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: He looks like Larry Fitzgerald to me. The way he

680
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 3: receives the football that I'm not saying he is Larry Fitzgerald,

681
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: but the way that he catches it with his hands

682
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: away from his body.

683
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 2: I thought that he looked very very good. I like it.

684
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 2: I like it, all right? Is he going to stay

685
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: in eighty nine. He is there hopeful that he can.

686
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what's wrong with eighty nine. Steve Smith,

687
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: like I am. You haven't think Smith, for sure, you

688
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: do love Steve Smith. He was, But it's a short

689
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: list of like on the eights, Where would we rank

690
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: eighty nine on the eighties? So I would go eighty eight,

691
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: eighty four, eighty top three, Yes, yeah, and then I

692
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: think it's it can be.

693
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: I think eighty one better. Who's a great? I think

694
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 3: the only two that I think are who am I

695
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: thinking Randy Moss was eighty one.

696
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: With Tara Lowans was eighty one. I think the only

697
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: like eighty five is not great. I think eighty two

698
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: school number eighty six are both worse. I think those

699
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: are the two worst. Eighty seven is a solid number,

700
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: eighty seven solid. I think eighty two and eighty six

701
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: are the worst. And then I think eighty nine is

702
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: like with eighty five, like they're kind of together. I

703
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: think I think eighty nine might be better than eighty five,

704
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: So I would say it's like the seventh worst.

705
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: Eighty But I think I like the and I like

706
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 3: a lot of the numbers and the teams for receivers too.

707
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: It's right, but we don't Well, I love those, but

708
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: there's I don't think any of those are available. I

709
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: think we're all locked in there. I think all those

710
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 2: are accounted for on our roster. What was he in

711
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 2: college till wasn't he four? Yeah, so you're not getting that, Okay, yeah.

712
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 5: Number four, number four.

713
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with Jordan Kunashik, your boy, our boy.

714
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: Kashik got good. A lot of our first team reps.

715
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 3: You hear Jason Tarboro when we play that. You're gonna

716
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: hear from him when we when we play that. But

717
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 3: Jase Tarbar effusive in his praise for how much better

718
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 3: he's got in his body, how much quicker he's gotten himself,

719
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 3: his breaks, his complete command is the nerve center or

720
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: the brain of the defense when he's out there. I

721
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 3: think he's a guy that is played his way thus far,

722
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: you know, onto this football team, and you know, you

723
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: never know with the guy like that. But core special

724
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 3: teams guy bub Ventrone loves him. I think Jim Schwartz

725
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 3: clearly loves him. War that's the only time he's warned

726
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: anybody's number so far, you know, And Jordan told me

727
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 3: he brought he knew he kind of liked him because

728
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 3: he brought him up to in front of the entire

729
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 3: defense and basically praised him and then asked him to

730
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: share like three minutes, like his story of his life

731
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 3: and how he got here and all of that, and

732
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 3: so he felt like that was pretty cool. So, Jordan Karashi,

733
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: I think he's had an excellent off season. I will

734
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 3: give him number four.

735
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 5: Number three, number three.

736
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 3: Number three Donovan People's jokes. The law Firm, DPJ. I mean,

737
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: ever like the single day making catch that was Ben

738
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 3: Jarvis green Ellis.

739
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, was the law firm.

740
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a new law in town.

741
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: I like it. I like what Gibby did that. I

742
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: like the law firm.

743
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: I thought she had a great camp catches everything runs

744
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: route seems faster. Crispert he heard shadowshit yesterday. He loves

745
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 3: his receiver room. You're also going to know how heavily

746
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: featured the receiver room is in my list here. Yeah,

747
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 3: but DPJ, I thought had a great many camp caught

748
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 3: numerous touchdowns and really seems to be in sync with

749
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 3: Sean Watson.

750
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: I stand by what I said yesterday. I think because

751
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 2: of where he was drafted. There's not enough credit or

752
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: juice to him that there should be. Yep, that if

753
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: it was different, not only would he have ascended quicker

754
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: if he would have been drafted where his talent is,

755
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: but also he would be viewed very differently if he

756
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: he's drafted where his talent is as opposed to whatever

757
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: happens in the draft process. Sometimes people get it wrong,

758
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: and obviously people got a lot wrong when it came

759
00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 2: to Donovan People's jones.

760
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: Number two, number two, and I'm gonna give you some

761
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: honorable mentions at the end as well, but number two,

762
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 3: I like it.

763
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 2: Number two.

764
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 3: Marquise Goodwin, Markey's Goodwin has shown speed we have not

765
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: seen on these practice fields and ability to track the

766
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: ball we have not seen on these practice fields. And

767
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 3: I think he is and now that he's just a

768
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: cool dude. His story is cool, his history, what he's

769
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 3: doing for you know, his sister, and just everything about him.

770
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 3: This guy went from being an Olympian caliber athlete in

771
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: the triple jump to now I think, you know, being

772
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 3: in the league for a decade and averaging over fifteen

773
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 3: sixteen yards.

774
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: Of catch everywhere he goes. I like the juice he's brought.

775
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 3: I like his trash talk, and I like the fact

776
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: that he makes big blaze and he makes space for

777
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: other people to make big plays.

778
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: Well, you were you were in Port of Iard and

779
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: I was doing the show with Tybus and we were

780
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: talking about Marquise Goodwin and he's like, he goes, you

781
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: don't remember this in terms of this race thing that

782
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: NFL players did apparently during the pandemic or something like

783
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: Chad Johnson put it on and he won it, and

784
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 2: he won it, and like Tyvas was thought, like, for sure,

785
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: I should have seen it, and I was completely unaware

786
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 2: that it ever happened, but he was so proud to

787
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: show it. Of course he knew him because they played together,

788
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: I think with the forty nine ers.

789
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 4: Yes, Goodwin's going through drills, yeah, and Tyvas is like,

790
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 4: I want to go see DB's but I gotta go

791
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 4: see wide receivers first because he played with them in

792
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 4: San Francisco. So we're off to the side, like Goodwin

793
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 4: leaves the drill to go, I'm like, uh, I'm like horrified,

794
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 4: thinking chatto shit.

795
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: You like with him meet, that's what he would say,

796
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: gonna be there.

797
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 4: I thought it could be. I was like, all right,

798
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 4: but like Denzel came over, I'm like everybody, we got practice.

799
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: There was no meetings for that. There was no meetings

800
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 3: for Cafe Gate. Ye say, you're fine.

801
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: It's safe not see tall and bulletproof gibbick kind of love.

802
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: We're at the undisclosed.

803
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 4: By the way, the undisclosed is going away when, oh god,

804
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 4: July tenth.

805
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 2: So this is why, uh, we gotta go back under

806
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: the yoke.

807
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 4: There may there may need some new tenants in the

808
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 4: under closed location, so we have to move.

809
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: Is that scores? No, No, it's just is our building done.

810
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: There's that, But there's also at the undisclosed location. There

811
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 4: there are with the approach of camp and a few

812
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 4: other things, there will be.

813
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: Tenants, tenants more important than us are to imagine.

814
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 4: Well, when the head of HR calls it tells you

815
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,479
Speaker 4: I'm gonna need you to vacate the premise by July tenth.

816
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: When was that said to you this morning? I hate

817
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 2: to see it. I hate to see it.

818
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 4: I tried, I lobbied, I was doing.

819
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 3: I would like to stay here forever. In perpetuity. Perpetuity,

820
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: it's a great word. Yeah, sorry, yeah, yeah, you blew it.

821
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 5: Number one.

822
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 2: Number one, Elijah Moore.

823
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 3: I mean, Elijah Moore has been dominant out wide. Elijah

824
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: Moore has been dominant in the slot. Elijah Moore has

825
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 3: been dominant out of the backfield. He catches everything thrown

826
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: his way. He seems impossible to cover. He was in

827
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: my mind after Deshaun Watson the STARF camp. Remember this

828
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 3: is a passing camp. So people are, yeah, right, you'd

829
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 3: give you four wide receivers. Well, yeah, I did. That's

830
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 3: what they do. That's what they do. That's what this

831
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 3: camp's all about. Think I said, I'll give you some

832
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 3: honorable mentions in a second. But I thought Elijah Moore

833
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: has the look of the guy that I loved coming

834
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: out of Ole Miss. He was one of the most

835
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 3: productive players in college. In fact, I think he led

836
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 3: that that year in receptions per game, yards per game

837
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: in the country.

838
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: Had a monster game against Georgia or LSU he had

839
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 2: at one of the games. Yeah, but he had one

840
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: where he lit up one of the better defenses in

841
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 2: the s. That's what Ceda Tilman did as well. Yeah,

842
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 2: that's true.

843
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 3: One of those ten for two hundred twenty when Georgia.

844
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: It's true that's the team that they gave up eight

845
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 3: points a game for the season.

846
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were good. The entire defense I think is

847
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: starting in the NFL next year.

848
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were all early round, they were all so

849
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 3: that's listen. It was a passing camp. That's what you

850
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 3: wanted to see.

851
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: Now. Honorable mention. This is a Swiss Army knife. He's

852
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: a walking mismatch. Yeah, we've seen him in the backfield.

853
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: I stumbled onto the Harvind thing the way that they

854
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 2: used him with Minnesota, Like there's there's just a lot

855
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to do it with him.

856
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 3: In terms of and he catches everything. He goes how

857
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: to freed separation. He's a great route runner. He's got

858
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 3: a big catch radius. You know, last year he caught

859
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 3: more balls than he had catchable balls thrown to him.

860
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 2: Pretty good.

861
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 3: So they maybe need to change the definition of catch

862
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: buoks if it has caught it on some level, it

863
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 3: felt like it had to be catch.

864
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: It had to be catchable. Absolutely.

865
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 3: So those are the guys, Honorable Mensurable honorable mention. I

866
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 3: thought grag Newsom had a great camp. I think that

867
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 3: he looks very very good.

868
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: Same with m J.

869
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: Denzel just the corners in general, I thought you saw

870
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 3: a lot, especially Greg and MJ. I'd give an honorable

871
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: mention shout out as well to Jacob Phillips had a

872
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: very nice camp. He looks are ginormous.

873
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: Now you will go if he just stays healthy.

874
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: Yes, So that those were a couple, and then every well,

875
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 3: what about the defensive line. You don't really see the

876
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: defensive line, the offensive line, don't really see the running backs.

877
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: I think, you know, Jerome Ford looked good. I thought

878
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 3: deep cut wide receivers, Dalen Baldwin had a nice camp.

879
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: I thought Jalen Darden had a nice camp as well.

880
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 3: And then I thought Dobbs made a lot of really

881
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: good throws. And then Dorian Thompson Robinson. I like this

882
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: kid a lot. And I think that you know, when

883
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: you're trying to think about this roster and where the

884
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: Browns could try to save some money but also maintain competence.

885
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: You know, dtr is your backup quarterback twenty twenty four

886
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 3: and beyond, I think would be.

887
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: A lawyer bread to him, no doubt. I'm a natural leader,

888
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: natural thrower of the football, decisive, good arm, you know,

889
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 2: not not the biggest guy, but tough athletic and hey,

890
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 2: and he could see how seriously takes and I want

891
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: to go back to Mark.

892
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,959
Speaker 3: He's good, really quickly go. He does every drill at

893
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 3: full speed like it is the most important thing he's doing.

894
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 3: And I hope that that rubs off on everybody else

895
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 3: because that is that's why he's been in the league

896
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 3: to long, because he's a total professional and he's very talented.

897
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 3: But overall excellent mini camp. You know, we're not going

898
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 3: to get to know really anything about the trenches. I

899
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: would put honorable mentions Darius Smith just for like looking

900
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 3: at him. I would put honorable mention for talking to coaches.

901
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 3: Somebody who has impressed them and I think has put

902
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 3: himself in a position to really, you know, make this

903
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 3: team is Maurice Hurst. I think that Alex writes development

904
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 3: is something that has not gone unnoticed by the coaching

905
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: staff at this point as well, and then Delp at Thornhill.

906
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 3: They've been pleased within McLeod as well. So overall, you

907
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 3: feel very good about where you are. But I want

908
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 3: to you know, the Dayaleen Baldwin, Jalen darn more deep cuts.

909
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 3: You know, DTR's your right now. Four stream quarterback, not

910
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 3: for long. He should be able to be your third

911
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 3: string quarterback, maybe as soon as we open training camp.

912
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: But Maurice first, I think, really said at Jordan Elliott,

913
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 3: who just sent her instructured deal.

914
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: He's making this team. That's that puts him on the team.

915
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: I like the DTR thing because it'll make camp and

916
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: it'll make preseason fun. This preseason should be fun.

917
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 3: We have some talent him and Tillman, and Tillman and

918
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: Baldwin and Darden and you know, Mike Harley Junior and

919
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,959
Speaker 3: Aikens and Harris and Bryant and all of the guys

920
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 3: that you're gonna be able to get a little bit

921
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: more like Hassan Hall though undrafted running backs had a

922
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 3: nice little camp, so you're in.

923
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: A little big It is makes an interesting when you

924
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: have a rookie quarterback. It makes it fun.

925
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: Makes yeah, preseason and a guy who's exciting, dynamic, and

926
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: he's he's.

927
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 4: All of this.

928
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: We'll go around the league. Coming up next to listen

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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936
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,959
Speaker 2: I want a sportspinning partner of your Cleveland Browns. Let's

937
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: go around the league. Jets head coach Robert Salas saying,

938
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: the Jets don't want to be on hard knocks. Does

939
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: anybody want to be other than Jerry Jones? Too bad?

940
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 2: Put them on there, too bad?

941
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 4: Agreed?

942
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: They're They're the number one draft pick for sure. There's

943
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: only four teams that fit the criteria of the ones

944
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 2: that can't say no, and it's them, the Bears, the Saints,

945
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: and the Cardinals. Yes, I believe that the Cardinals. You

946
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: don't want the Cardinals. No, I think I would go Jets, Bears, Saints,

947
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: Cardinals in that order for most epicio to me, But

948
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: the Jets are number one by one hundred miles. Yeah, like,

949
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but that makes the best television show. Agree?

950
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: Is the Jets? For sure? The Bears one would have

951
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: a little bit of potential, but I don't know if

952
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: their coach has like Sala's got juice. I'm trying to

953
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 2: think of. I don't know if Everflus has juice. You

954
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 2: would have the stadium stuff over.

955
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: There, stadium stuff, you've got field, So he got charismatic.

956
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, New Orleans would have the One thing that's always

957
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 2: fun about when they go to a place like New

958
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: Orleans is then you get like the city's a character.

959
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: City would be a character in New Orleans.

960
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: Mike Thomas, who is seems to be a very interest.

961
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen with him? Troubled guy? I don't know

962
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: what happened. I really don't. I saw these videos of him,

963
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 2: like weightlifting, and I'm like, just stop stop getting you

964
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: don't need to be that big. Yeah, you don't need

965
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: to do that, do you Guys? See the videos of Tua,

966
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: Like how jacked he is? So is he jacked? I

967
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 2: think he's jacked. Butch Stommach grow so much. I don't know.

968
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 2: I don't know that, but I don't know. Maybe he's

969
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: wearing some sort of padd But like the that he's

970
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: too damn big. That was always my theory on Brady

971
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: Quinn is he he got too big, too buffed? Same

972
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 2: thing with like Trent Richardson like too muscular, that you're

973
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: not flexible. Yeah, you're not flexible. When you're that muscular,

974
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: it's hard to move.

975
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 3: David Boston's arms were like bowling his biceps were like

976
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 3: they put bowling balls under his skin.

977
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: Yeah he was. And then Am Kwan got a little

978
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 2: big at one point. Yeah, got a little too big,

979
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: Like that can happen to you when when you do that.

980
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 3: By the way, quick aside, because Gibbey put it in here,

981
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 3: shout out aj Green, happy birthday and this Gibbey's words

982
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 3: were happy you didn't die at the golf out yeah,

983
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 3: or get injured even.

984
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: One of the one of the most remarkable things I've

985
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: seen live on remote, for sure, on a short.

986
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 3: List for sure, bang bang, And the funny thing is

987
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: like a lot.

988
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: Of ownerships for some Yes, right in front of all

989
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 2: of us. Yes, live on the air, live on the air,

990
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: bang bang yeah, man crazy real quick on New Orleans?

991
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: Do you think we're the blonde? And I are going

992
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: to Charleston in a couple of weeks? Has Charleston usurped

993
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: New Orleans as like that place you go in the South.

994
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: Do people still go to New Orleans on short weekends.

995
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 3: I don't, it's they're very different. You would go to

996
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 3: New Orleans for a certain experience.

997
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 2: Sure, New Orleans offer I liked. I've been in New

998
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: Orleans a lot.

999
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: I think we're men in our forties and so now

1000
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 3: we would be much more claimed to Charles. So do

1001
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: you think that twenty year old are still going to

1002
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 3: New Orleans or are they going to Nashville Nashville? See,

1003
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 3: I do.

1004
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 2: I do wonder if New Orleans still gets the tourism.

1005
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: I bet it doesn't. Maybe not to that extent, but

1006
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: it's still There was a race for hosting events, for sure.

1007
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 2: There was a time when New Orleans was second only

1008
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 2: to Vegas.

1009
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 3: Yet no, I think Nashville. I think Nashville has passed

1010
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 3: it for fun and bachelor parties and bachelorette parties, and

1011
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: I think that's Charleston has passed it for people who

1012
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: want to go food to South and food.

1013
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: And yeah, I think so. Yeah. I mean, the fact

1014
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: of the matter is New Orleans is great, but it's

1015
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 2: also nasty. You can have so many different experiences in

1016
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: New Orleans. Yes, you know, it depends on what you're

1017
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: kind of going for. Yes, you know, but you're right,

1018
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 2: like it can it's as bad as it can be,

1019
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: as nasty as I've always wondered. I've only ever been

1020
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: there for like huge events. It's always wondered, kind of

1021
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 2: like with Indy, Like what's it like on a Tuesday

1022
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 2: in June.

1023
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 3: I've never been there where I was where it no?

1024
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 3: Where it was Bourbon Street was not hopping.

1025
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: Because you've always been there for events, right, have you

1026
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: ever been there for anything other than a big deal

1027
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: like a WrestleMania or a super Bowl Final four? Like

1028
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: those are national championship games, like I've never been.

1029
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 3: We were there randomly, I mean not randomly, but for

1030
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: a Browns game. So there was a Saturday though that

1031
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 3: we were out and it was quite hoppy.

1032
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, crazy DeAndre Hopkins is gonna be at Tennessee

1033
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 2: and New England, Gibe writs in the Rundown and anyone

1034
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: to try and understand his free agent visits, I can.

1035
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: I think he's just looking for money.

1036
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 3: I think he's looking for money, and I think he's

1037
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 3: also looking for Hey, look at all these people that

1038
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 3: want to talk to me and maybe try to drum

1039
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 3: something up a little bit there. But those are neither

1040
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 3: of those places or places that he would go to

1041
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: try to have. There are two things that he supposedly

1042
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 3: wants right well, three money, the ability to be on

1043
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: a team that's to win, and then the ability to

1044
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 3: put up stats that would allow him to, after a

1045
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 3: one year deal, get a big contract. Those two places

1046
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 3: don't fit any of those bills, except maybe money. But

1047
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 3: it's not like there, well, it's all gonna be well,

1048
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 3: he's getting one year deal anywhere he goes.

1049
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: I think that. I mean, the Beckham thing just screwed

1050
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: it all up. The Ravens Beckham thing dis screwed totally. Yeah,

1051
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,760
Speaker 2: if that doesn't happen, I'm sure he's already signed somewhere

1052
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 2: for less. Frank Clark leaving the charge of saying within

1053
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 2: a division he's going to the Denver Broncos on a

1054
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 2: one year deal up to seven and a half. I

1055
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 2: did see this, Did you guys read the quote from

1056
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: Frank Wright on Bryce Young being elevated? No, so the

1057
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: whole quote is about how you know this isn't We're

1058
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: not naming him the starter. He's still in competition with

1059
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: who and Andy Dalton has still done a lot of

1060
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: great work and Matt Corral's there too, and you know

1061
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: we're all still competing and not too much to Could

1062
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 2: we just stop stop it? He's the first veral pickure

1063
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: trade it to get him. You're playing him.

1064
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, you drafted him number one. He's the starter. That's

1065
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 4: why I put it in the run. And I'm like, hell, finally,

1066
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 4: I see I didn't hear the sound bite. I just

1067
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 4: saw that. Stupefying I saw that. I was like, well,

1068
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:09,959
Speaker 4: there's some common sense.

1069
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 2: He really learned a lot. He really learned a lot

1070
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: from Andy. No, he didn't. He learns a lot by practicing.

1071
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 2: In fact, you're an idiot. You should have given him

1072
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: every first team rep from the startup of Mini camp

1073
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: and Otasya. Why would you give him anything else? I

1074
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: will say this unless it's a developmental kid. But you

1075
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 2: drafted young to play.

1076
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: I'm surprised God that it didn't really stick out this

1077
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 3: much watching him in the SEC, but watching him at Panthers,

1078
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 3: in the practice, whenever you see highlights. If he truly

1079
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 3: is successful and ends up being worthy of the number

1080
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 3: one pick, it's gonna be incredible that he was able

1081
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: to do that at that size, because when you he

1082
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 3: looks literally, he does look like a kid is wearing

1083
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 3: a panther's uniform and playing quarterback.

1084
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: For it didn't stick out when he was in the

1085
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: SEC is because he took ninety nine percent of his

1086
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 2: snaps out of the gun. So the reason that it's

1087
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 2: out in the NFL, as the videos and images we've

1088
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: seen or him under center, you're near the line, so

1089
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 2: you're near the lineman and there he has a taller He.

1090
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 3: Just doesn't look like he would survive Miles Garrett sa

1091
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 3: Darius Smith hitting him.

1092
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: I agree. I agree, he's obvious.

1093
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 3: It's gonna be an incredible anomaly if he's able to

1094
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 3: be the Steph Curry of the NFL.

1095
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it will be, I would agree. Amazing. Yeah, this

1096
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: was fun. I alluded to this yesterday. I'm glad you

1097
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: have this in here. This is Dalvin Cook, who's under

1098
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: contract with Minnesota until later to day. Mike McDaniel was

1099
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: asked to comment on any interest with the Dolphins might

1100
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 2: or might have in Dalvin Cook. Mike McDaniel, God bless

1101
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: you have a listen.

1102
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 6: Uh March third, nineteen eighty three, Uh that day I

1103
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 6: was born. Right now, we take a closer look at

1104
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 6: that date and that in fact was not yesterday. Okay,

1105
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 6: so uh, people that are on people are rumored to

1106
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 6: be tall, short, people that are rumored to be you know,

1107
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 6: that's you're you're not gonna get this guy. I'm here too, Okay.

1108
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 2: Here too, And he did it. So have you seen

1109
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 2: the video? Yeah? So straight, so great, he is great.

1110
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 2: He is great. I'm telling I do think he ends

1111
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 2: up there. Yeah, a little goes such a long he

1112
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 2: goes a long ways a lot, but just a little

1113
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: bit of that humor goes a long way for a coach. Oh,

1114
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,280
Speaker 2: you get a lot of currency on just a little juice,

1115
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 2: and he provides a lot of it.

1116
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 4: Man.

1117
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so so good. Uh. We will go to

1118
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 2: the podium and Nick Chubb. It is also a mail

1119
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 2: bank Friday. Ask us anything you'd like Tweet the questions

1120
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 2: at Brown's Underscore Daily. We'll get to that in about

1121
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 2: a half hour from now. You listened to Cleveland Browns

1122
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,040
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1123
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Speaker 2: All Right, final hour here of the week on Cleveland

1126
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: Brown's Daily. Didn't hear a lot from Nick Chubb at

1127
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: mandatory mini camp and rightfully, so, what do you need

1128
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 2: to know about Nick Chubb? He's best running back in

1129
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: the league. He's an absolute stud. He was at the podium.

1130
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: Let's have a listen your thoughts.

1131
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's obviously obviously horrible news for everyone

1132
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 7: a part of you know, this organization, in this entire

1133
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 7: state and the entire you know, USA, But you know,

1134
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 7: p personally being able to know him was it was

1135
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 7: definitely special, definitely a blessing. And being drafted here and

1136
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,799
Speaker 7: playing after you know, such a great running back, it's

1137
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 7: it's a blessing.

1138
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 8: What about the fact that he you know, he was

1139
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 8: instrumental in helping to draft you in some ways. They

1140
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 8: sent him some tape of you and he just like loved.

1141
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 2: Him right from the start. What did that mean to you?

1142
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 7: You know, it's funny, Joe she Han, it's been telling

1143
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 7: me that story since I got here. I or believed him,

1144
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 7: like I text from from Dorsey telling me that it

1145
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 7: was true. After you passed away and you know this

1146
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 7: here and now, I mean, it was a blessing. You know,

1147
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 7: he he saw something in me, and yeah, it's it's special,

1148
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 7: you know, definitely planned for him.

1149
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 4: From here on.

1150
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 8: OU what were your interactions uh with him? Like I mean,

1151
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 8: did you get a chance to talk to him about

1152
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 8: just running and just the physical nature of how he

1153
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 8: did his job?

1154
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 7: Did you have those conversations We didn't really got too

1155
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 7: much in detail.

1156
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 2: I think the biggest part.

1157
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 7: Was just just talking to him in general, just l

1158
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 7: learning him what I from life about him and him

1159
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 7: just being here, being around It's it's that's more than anything.

1160
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 2: And as for what.

1161
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 9: What's the I guess the most impactful thing that you

1162
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 9: took away from those conversations with him.

1163
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 7: The most impactful thing is probably just you know stanfor

1164
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 7: way you believe in you know, he was a strong man,

1165
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 7: he's still for a lot of things, and he was himself.

1166
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 7: I think that's just a big thing to take from it.

1167
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 7: Just always be true to yourself.

1168
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 9: Andy, Nick, have you been uh in Todd to Kareem

1169
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 9: and you what what's see?

1170
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 10: What's it going on?

1171
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 7: I haven't talked too much about football. You know, Korea's

1172
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 7: like a brother than me, so if okay, we got

1173
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 7: a lot of things to talk about other than the

1174
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 7: football right now. But uh, he's doing great and he's

1175
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,720
Speaker 7: from Cleveland, So he's around here, he's a training getting

1176
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 7: ready for whatever happens.

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00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 3: Did you have any.

1178
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 8: Thoughts on how do you guys junior season houtry?

1179
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 9: You know, would you be on your where you strong too?

1180
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 5: On that Dollinoya or how the juniors all like that?

1181
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm down for whatever they wanna do. You know,

1182
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 7: hopefully something does come up like that. But you know,

1183
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 7: whatever they come up with, I think we all agree

1184
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 7: that we'd like to do something.

1185
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 2: Oh that's did you have.

1186
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 8: Any special gendaryship kinship with him because of the fact

1187
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 8: that it was from Georgia? I mean, is is there

1188
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 8: anything about that?

1189
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: Uh?

1190
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 7: I don't think we ever talked about that, but that

1191
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 7: that is cool that he's from Georgia and also play

1192
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 7: here in Cleveland.

1193
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 2: Uh, we have that in coming.

1194
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 3: And did you watch while you were here?

1195
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 9: Uh?

1196
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 8: Did you watch a lot of pos film? Did you

1197
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 8: watch the highlights and that become more familiar with the

1198
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 8: sprunting style?

1199
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 7: Definitely watched his highlights couple times.

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00:56:59,440 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 5: Uh.

1201
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 7: It just he is amazing. He made crazy plays that

1202
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 7: no one has made sense. You know, he was definitely different.

1203
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 4: Nick.

1204
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 10: There's you know, like after games, we'll hear things like

1205
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 10: Nick Chubb is the first Brown's running back to do

1206
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 10: this since Jim Brown. Whatever it is, cause that kind

1207
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 10: of I mean, what do you think when you hear

1208
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 10: something like that, like You're the first running back to

1209
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 10: do something since Jim Brown in this uniform?

1210
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 7: Uh, I know it's a big gap between when he

1211
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 7: played and I'm playing now, So I mean, uh, he

1212
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 7: what he what he did still for a long time.

1213
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 7: You know the yards, the stats, Uh, only in nine years,

1214
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 7: so it's unbelievable. You know, the what he was able

1215
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:33,919
Speaker 7: to do in those in just nine years.

1216
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: And it's crazy.

1217
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 10: Hey, Nick, you had uh twelve rushing touchdowns when Jacoby

1218
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 10: was six quarterback, but none after uh the Shawn took over.

1219
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 4: So I why did that happen?

1220
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 9: And how do you see your role now with the Shawn?

1221
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 2: You can't really look at the numbers.

1222
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 7: I mean twelve to most of the times I've ever

1223
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 7: had since I've been here, twelve or eight. So I mean,

1224
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 7: I don't think I had much to do with it.

1225
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 7: I think we did have to figure get some things out, uh,

1226
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 7: get the Kings out of the offense. And I don't

1227
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 7: I don't I don't think I'm hindered by the shun

1228
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 7: at all.

1229
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 2: And nick use Sewan seems so much comfortable.

1230
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 10: But just go on the field, any interactions with you guys,

1231
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 10: with us, you see a big difference in him.

1232
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 7: From this time you were around here? Do uh do

1233
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 7: he's he's a lot more calm, you know, a lot

1234
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 7: more of world what's going on? I mean, he's he

1235
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 7: since I've been here last days. He's making crazy plays

1236
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 7: and he looks good.

1237
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: If you had to or a regode, I did.

1238
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 7: And you usually played another word to head down always

1239
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 7: about two years as what keeps you consist of with

1240
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 7: then that having an attitude. Mm, just the way I

1241
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 7: approach you know, just my career football and the way

1242
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 7: I approach everything. You know, I'm always I'm always working

1243
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 7: to be better and you know for my team, for

1244
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 7: for Cleveland. So I think that's my mindset, is to

1245
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 7: do what I can for everyone around me.

1246
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: You know, everything you always had to attit to since

1247
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 2: you were younger.

1248
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 8: H how do you think, uh you were in out

1249
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 8: Jerome or you together in terms of a one or

1250
00:58:58,480 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 8: two behind you.

1251
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 2: Just change Upskay think would do good?

1252
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 7: You know cor Koreem Jeromees Jeromes really talented. He can

1253
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 7: catch the ball well, he's extremely fast and smooth, and yeah,

1254
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 7: he's he's a great player.

1255
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 2: They cast they know that you answered a lot of

1256
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 2: questions about chick Gerson. You wanted to ask me by

1257
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: the end of the year, you're being second player about.

1258
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 10: Browns all drug shot that's found grade four or five

1259
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 10: thousand yards?

1260
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 4: How did you do.

1261
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: You think your current believe it's been extended enough for

1262
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: your catching.

1263
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 7: I mean, who knows, you know, anything can happen. I

1264
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 7: like to take it one day at a time, and

1265
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 7: I look too far ahead. But yes, let's we'll see.

1266
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 7: I don't know an extra motivation for you if uh,

1267
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 7: I don't get you caught up in that. Uh, Like

1268
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 7: I said, take a day at a time.

1269
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 8: Ever, you think now, how about the fact that they

1270
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 8: that they are mean the rushing type of uh the

1271
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 8: Jim Brown Huh? I guess your first your thoughts on that?

1272
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 8: And then really what it is? It even more special

1273
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 8: now for you to win it.

1274
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 7: And we get around war I mean, ah all together, man,

1275
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 7: it's it's definitely special, you know, honest, him and what

1276
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 7: he did here and you know across the nation, probably

1277
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 7: the best running back ever play play football, so I

1278
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 7: think he definitely deserves it to be his name.

1279
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, Coach is.

1280
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 3: Taking you.

1281
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

1282
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 10: Most people on the outside see a new emphasis on

1283
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 10: the passing game.

1284
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: Obviously what's going on here? And no wonder will Nick

1285
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 2: Chubb gets his touches? Do you wonder him? I'm not

1286
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: worried at all.

1287
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 7: You know, I can't control what I can control and

1288
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 7: when the balls in my hand and have full control,

1289
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 7: so I'm not worried about anything.

1290
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 9: Coach is taking you guys to West Virginia to start

1291
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 9: training camp. Just your thoughts on that and what do

1292
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 9: you think that the benefit of that will be for

1293
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,919
Speaker 9: you guys as a team.

1294
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 7: I think it'd be good just to get away from

1295
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 7: Cleveland and focus on ourselves and just become closer, get

1296
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 7: the chemistry going. And the son said he went there

1297
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 7: before news in Houston, so he said it was it

1298
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 7: was fun. So I think it'd be great for us

1299
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 7: to go get away for a while.

1300
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 2: Give me the stat line for Nick Chubb, give me

1301
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: your project. Did stat line for Nick Chubb for this year?

1302
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1303
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 2: So for perspective, folks, last year fifteen twenty five twelve touchdowns,

1304
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: ninety yards a game, roughly eighty nine point seven and

1305
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty nine yards receiving with another touchdown.

1306
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 2: It's amazing. He's so wildly consistent, never rushed for under

1307
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: five yards of carry in his career. By the time

1308
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: you get after his rookie year, it's ninety three yards

1309
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: a game, eighty eight point nine, eighty nine point nine,

1310
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 2: eighty nine point seven. He just you give them the ball.

1311
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: He's getting five yards. It's as simple as that. Pretty

1312
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 2: sure second off.

1313
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: He's right there with Jamal Charles in terms of all

1314
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 3: time yards per carr, yards per carry up. And he's

1315
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 3: the first I know, he's the first non quarterback to

1316
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 3: do that in the first five seasons of his career,

1317
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 3: to give you five yards per carry or more. I

1318
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 3: think Cam Newton did that as a quarterback. I don't

1319
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 3: believe anybody else has ever done that. So obviously it's

1320
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 3: incredibly special. Last year career high three hundred and two attempts.

1321
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 3: I think that this year, what are we looking at

1322
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 3: for Nick Chubb. I'm gonna say somewhere around two hundred

1323
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 3: and sixty attempts I think feels like a pretty good number.

1324
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 2: Let's see. Let me do some math. Right here.

1325
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 3: Seventeen too some math, Yeah, I think, yeah, two hundred

1326
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 3: and sixty attempts, so that's about sixteen a game. Yeah,

1327
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 3: fifteen to sixteen a game, and I think that'll be

1328
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 3: where he is. I think he will catch. I think

1329
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 3: he's gonna set as a chance at a career high

1330
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 3: in receptions, although he had thirty six and nineteen, but

1331
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 3: I think he could be in that. You know, two

1332
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 3: catches a game to three. Get him in the eighteen

1333
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 3: touch a game on average, and if you do that right,

1334
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 3: if he gets let's give him the two hundred and

1335
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 3: we'll call it two sixty carries. So I think north

1336
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 3: of thirteen hundred yards are higher. I think he will

1337
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 3: set a career high in touchdowns this year. I think

1338
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 3: he'll have more than twelve, think about thirteen hundred yards rushing,

1339
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 3: twelves or so touchdowns, and I think you'll have you know,

1340
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 3: in the three hundreds for the first time in his

1341
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 3: career receiving. So over sixteen hundred total yards and fifteen

1342
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 3: touchdowns I think is a pretty reasonable thing. And for

1343
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb, he's only been over six en total yards twice,

1344
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 3: it would be a career high. I expect a career

1345
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 3: high in touchdowns, and then I think he'll be in Yeah,

1346
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 3: like I said, sixteen hundred, baby, up to seventeen hundred

1347
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 3: total yards.

1348
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: It's funny, I just asked that, and no one is

1349
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 2: more dialed into like all of you're the perfect person

1350
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 2: to ask that. You're dialed into the percentages and what

1351
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 2: he's going to give and also where this offense is going.

1352
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 2: And there there's this notion that like Nick Chubb is

1353
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 2: going to be a forgotten man. I assure you he's

1354
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 2: not going to be a forgotten man. The numbers that

1355
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 2: you just put out there, thirteen hundred yards, thirteen touchdowns,

1356
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 2: three hundred yards on the ground, sixteen hundred total yards

1357
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: of offense or right around there. Those are extraordinary numbers,

1358
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 2: by the way, and that was at five yards carry.

1359
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 3: I think it's very feasibly are just five and a

1360
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 3: half yards carried like he's done twice in his career,

1361
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: and that puts him at fourteen thirty. That puts him

1362
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 3: well over seventeen hundred total yards. And I still think

1363
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 3: he goes fifteen or more touchdowns.

1364
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 2: He ever played with these type of threats.

1365
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 3: He is the best runner in the league period He's

1366
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 3: also the best runner in the league against light boxes,

1367
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 3: which he's going to see almost exclusively, after being the

1368
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 3: guy who ran against almost exclusively heavy boxes. He's the

1369
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 3: best in the league running outside the tackles, which we're

1370
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 3: going to do much more of an hour shotgun run

1371
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 3: game is going to be significantly more varied than it

1372
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 3: was in the past. So I expect him to be

1373
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 3: very productive. He's a great shotgun runner. Also, I expect

1374
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 3: him be very productive. And like I said, he hits

1375
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 3: five and a half yards of carry, I don't think

1376
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 3: he goes more than two hundred and sixty carries.

1377
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: I really don't.

1378
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 3: I think that they will want to, you know, try

1379
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 3: to keep him fresh, as it were. Maybe he gets

1380
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 3: the two seventy. If he gets a two seventy, and

1381
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 3: you know, you'd put him at five and a half

1382
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 3: yards of carry, that's fourteen eighty five. I think he

1383
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 3: ends up in that, yeah, like thirteen to fifteen hundred range.

1384
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 3: But I think the touchdowns are where, especially if you're

1385
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 3: talking fantasy football, that's where he's going to give you

1386
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 3: more value than he ever has. The crazy thing about

1387
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 3: last year, now I know how many people remember this

1388
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 3: about last year with Nick Chubb, is that Nick Chubb

1389
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 3: when you went into the actual kind of the game flow.

1390
01:04:57,680 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 3: And I just remember this from doing my boards. He

1391
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 3: sad at twelve touchdowns. I want to say, for a

1392
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 3: pretty decent period of time, I'm gonna pull up his

1393
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three game, twenty two game lugs because he

1394
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 3: was a touchdown machine. And then it did taper off

1395
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 3: a little bit. So he hit his twelfth rushing touchdown

1396
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 3: last year in Week eleven, he did not score again

1397
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 3: on the ground. He caught a touchdown in the finale

1398
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 3: against Pittsburgh, but he did not score a rushing touchdown

1399
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 3: again after that. So fifteen, I feel like his is

1400
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 3: a lock in this offense.

1401
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 2: Feels like feels like that's where you're headed. We'll go

1402
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 2: around the sports world. Coming up next, tost to Clevelan

1403
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1404
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bett coming

1405
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1406
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: For a team of injury lawyers dedicated every client every

1407
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,880
Speaker 2: day called one hundred elk Ohio, Elkanox Brown, partner of

1408
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 2: your Cleveland brown I did see this this so this

1409
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 2: is what's interested in. College Football Players Association is organizing

1410
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 2: a boycott of the twenty twenty four EA Sports College

1411
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 2: Football video game. Athlete payoffs expected to be five hundred

1412
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 2: dollars per according to Front Office Sports. This is why

1413
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 2: this game was delayed. It was supposed to come out

1414
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: this summer. Correct. They're trying to figure out how to

1415
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: do this and how to make it make sense to

1416
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 2: where they can do it. It's going to be a

1417
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 2: problem until they are unioned, till the players are unionized

1418
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 2: and they're collectively bargained, and until it happens going to

1419
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 2: be a problem. The simplest thing you could do if

1420
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 2: your EA Sports is just make it editable. That's it.

1421
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 2: Let's make it so you could edit the rosters. I

1422
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 2: mean the EA Sports video game. I used to send

1423
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 2: a memory card to an undisclosed address who would load

1424
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 2: it on for fifty I think how trusting that was.

1425
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 2: You give them fifty bucks or whatever it was. Yeah, ye,

1426
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 2: you'd take the video card and then it would come

1427
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 2: back like a week later, and you'd have the rosters.

1428
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 2: So that's how it used to work. Now you can

1429
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:00,919
Speaker 2: just download them, like, come on, man, doesn't that there's

1430
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 2: no way for them to win. There's no way for

1431
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 2: the players to win in this. They must just take

1432
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 2: the money that they can get it.

1433
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 4: You're getting at least a little something.

1434
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not going to ever, there's no way for

1435
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 2: them to do this because you could just make it editable.

1436
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:11,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1437
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 2: So they're saying that they deserve more than five hundred

1438
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 2: They probably do. I don't know. I think that on average,

1439
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 2: that's probably what they would get. Yeah, you're right, right,

1440
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 2: because there's so many certain people that deserve, right, But

1441
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 2: that the whole NCAA model is everyone's the same. Yes,

1442
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 2: a football quarterback is the same as a women's gymnast. Yes,

1443
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 2: although women's just as bad. Example, because Livy had Done's

1444
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 2: the most wealthy college athlete on the planet. But you

1445
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 2: get the point. Yeah, it's hard for me to find

1446
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 2: a way for them to win if they so take

1447
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 2: your five hundred bucks.

1448
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 3: Take five, right, you're not gonna take five hundred bucks

1449
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 3: and you're gonna make it.

1450
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 4: And you're in a video game.

1451
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 2: You're in a video game. Kind of cool.

1452
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 3: And by the way, you're getting all they're getting all

1453
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 3: their ni O money anyway. Anyway, Yeah, this is just

1454
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 3: a cool thing and fun and when you get to Madden.

1455
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 3: I don't know what the deal of these guys get, man,

1456
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 3: but I'm I don't think they get not they get

1457
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 3: They're just in it.

1458
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all. It's part of the NFLPA and they

1459
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: have an agreement and that's it. Yeah, that's interesting. I

1460
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 2: wonder what, like if they do get a check from Madden,

1461
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 2: let's see, or is it just all part of.

1462
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 3: What I bet in the UFL Cover Athlete, I bet

1463
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 3: that you get something in the cover game, Like do

1464
01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 3: you do they get a share of their jersey sales

1465
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 3: in the NFL?

1466
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1467
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: Individually they do, yes, Okay, Yeah, so I would wonder

1468
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 2: if they do get a cut of of the Madden game.

1469
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 3: How much NFL players are paid for their likeness and

1470
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 3: mad and franchise found out they're paid around seventeen thousand

1471
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 3: dollars each in recent years.

1472
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 2: Okay, so, but every you get a buddy gets.

1473
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,560
Speaker 3: The same an undiscloses amount for making appearances on the

1474
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 3: Mating game franchise. According to the NFL Players Association, players

1475
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 3: do not receive direct compensation for inclusion of the game.

1476
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 3: NFLPA has a licensing agreement with UA and the company

1477
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 3: that produce the game allows for using player images and likenesses.

1478
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 3: It's negotiated and renewed every few years. In other words,

1479
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 3: how much the NFL players they ensures fair compensation for

1480
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 3: using their likenesses. In other words, just how much NFL

1481
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 3: players make for the game remains undisclosed. But somebody said

1482
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,719
Speaker 3: that they think it's around seventeen thousand.

1483
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,600
Speaker 2: Okay, just thinking about that with the FIFA game, Like,

1484
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 2: how the hell do they get licensing of all those

1485
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 2: leagues and all those players.

1486
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like so when the NBA NBA two K has

1487
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 3: a one point one billion dollar licensing deal with the

1488
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 3: NBA Players Association, Yeah, that is subsequently distributed by the

1489
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 3: Players Association in an undisclosed manner.

1490
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's that's your taste of it. So I

1491
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 2: guess all a EA has to do is well, the

1492
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 2: problem is there's no association, there's no way for them

1493
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 2: to like pay they pay. The problem is the schools

1494
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 2: get all the money. Yes, the schools get as has

1495
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 2: been the case in the NCAA forever, the schools get

1496
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: all the money for giving them the rights to use

1497
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 2: Ohio State and the schools are not in the business

1498
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 2: right now of distributing that money to the players. That's

1499
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 2: the hang up. We've got Game four and I Heats

1500
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 2: and Nuggets. It's all good. Game four, I think it's done.

1501
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 2: I think I think the Nuggets win this one big.

1502
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,720
Speaker 2: And where you wrap it up in game five?

1503
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 3: Well, you just wonder if somebody said, hey, we have

1504
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 3: Vegas and Miami. Good idea to have these towns have

1505
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 3: seven events in them, and no, maybe we want to

1506
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 3: make sure we get back to Miami for a game six.

1507
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,799
Speaker 2: Here. They could call it, could call in the officials

1508
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 2: that ensure such things happen. Yeah, a little bit of

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01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 2: a call. Yeah maybe.

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01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 9: Uh.

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01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 2: Naymar was at the game three, and I'm wondering if

1512
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 2: Messi will be at game four tonight. What did he.

1513
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 8: Do?

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01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 2: You know his contract from Enter Miami. No, but I

1515
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 2: know how it happened. You know how the deal happened.

1516
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 2: So he's going to make a certain amount of ownership, right, Yeah,

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01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 2: But the big nut came from Apple and Adidas. So

1518
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 2: right now MLS games are only viewable on Apple Plus,

1519
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 2: Apple TV Plus or whatever it is. Apple TV. That's it.

1520
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 2: That's the only place you can get it. And so

1521
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 2: Apple kicked in to create more demand for Apple TV.

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01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 3: Well, and my guess is if the Saudis were willing

1523
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 3: not from one point six billion for three years, there

1524
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 3: was a reason they went that high.

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01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 2: That had to there had to be and I don't know,

1526
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,680
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that they got anywhere close to five

1527
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 2: hundred million. Maybe they did. Apple certainly has all of

1528
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 2: that cash and then some if they want to. But yeah,

1529
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: he's not going he's not playing in the MLS for charity, yep.

1530
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 2: And it had to be so much. There was only

1531
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: so much that Barcelona could pay him because of the

1532
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 2: financial fair play stuff. So whatever that number was a

1533
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: stupe point out of you, good job at you private school.

1534
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 2: That something forced the Saudis to go up from their

1535
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 2: original number to where they thought there must have been

1536
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 2: some number we could meet it or beat it with

1537
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 2: and they could not. So yeah, trust he's done quite well.

1538
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 2: But it was Apple that came in, and then Adidas

1539
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 2: is the official kit supplier and they're going to move

1540
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:56,799
Speaker 2: at a lot of jerseys.

1541
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 3: Is there a scenario in a witch? And I know

1542
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 3: there's some people out here who are going to say

1543
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 3: that this is what I about to say is blasphemous.

1544
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 3: But is there scenario because of this move in which

1545
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 3: that is their scenario? Because obviously answers, yes, there's always

1546
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 3: scenario for something. Sure, Is it likely that's a better way?

1547
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 3: Is it likely that in the next three years MLS

1548
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 3: because of the messy edition, becomes more popular than certainly

1549
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 3: the NHL, and it might be close to that already

1550
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 3: in America or baseball.

1551
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 2: No, okay, now this has been you guys. Let's let's

1552
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 2: do kind of a guess the stats. Do you guys

1553
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 2: know who Johann Kreif is.

1554
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 8: No?

1555
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 2: No, have you ever heard of friends Beckenbauer.

1556
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't know why, but yes, you've heard.

1557
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 2: Of pelecent Okay, those three guys are all. When FIFA

1558
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 2: put out like their all time best team, all three

1559
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:55,759
Speaker 2: of those guys are on it. Kreif, Beckenbauer, Pele Kreif

1560
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 2: from is Dutch, Beckenbauer is German. He's part of the

1561
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 2: German seventy teen is It won a couple of World Cups,

1562
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:04,839
Speaker 2: and then Pele's Pele. They've all. They were all in America,

1563
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 2: they played in the in the America, they played Two

1564
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 2: of them played for the New York Cosmos in the

1565
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 2: late seventies early eighties, they played in front of seventy

1566
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 2: five thousand people. Then, okay, we have Beckham came over.

1567
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 2: None of it. None of these people are Messy at

1568
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 2: thirty five. Okay, I acknowledge that, like Messi at thirty

1569
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 2: five coming off a World Cup, none of them are

1570
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: that sure. But we have had great players come over

1571
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 2: in their twilight forever and it amounts to next to nothing.

1572
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 2: What they basically become is and this is what Messi

1573
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 2: will be, except he'll be even better. It depend on

1574
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 2: how motivated he is. He's accomplished everything already. I'm shocked

1575
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 2: he's doing it thirty five. I think if he could

1576
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 2: have played at Barcelona and done soda with a normal

1577
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 2: amount of money, he would have done it. Clearly. I

1578
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 2: don't understand why he did this at thirty five, because

1579
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: everything that he chased he's accomplished. But like all time

1580
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 2: goal scoring, all that stuff is still kind of out there,

1581
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 2: and he kind of he's he's won, He's got a

1582
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 2: lot of that stuff, but it's just weird. He feels

1583
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 2: like he should still play what I would consider meaningful

1584
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: soccer and he's not going to so he'll essentially be

1585
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 2: a traveling circus where every place he goes will be

1586
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 2: sold out and you'll watch that, and that's what he's

1587
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 2: signing up for. So it's it's really strange to me,

1588
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: but there's no I don't think it'll it's a ways

1589
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 2: from passing. The Other thing that's weird about is because

1590
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 2: the way MLS is done in terms of like the

1591
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 2: league kind of oversees all of the teams like no

1592
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 2: one's ever seen, like the financials on it, Like these

1593
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 2: these franchises get these incredible valuations, but it's like, are

1594
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 2: we sure they're worth it?

1595
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 4: Sure that's real? Yeah?

1596
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 2: You know, so I think that's the tricky part with

1597
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 2: it too. But that's where you go on that. All right,

1598
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: we'll do the the mail Bank. Coming up next. You

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Speaker 2: listen to Clevelan Browns Zaily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bet coming

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Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in to clear the Browns Daily.

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Speaker 2: Time for Little mail Bag brought to our friends Across

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Speaker 4: Welcome on board. All right, welcome to the best segment

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Speaker 4: of the week.

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Speaker 2: Kids. Welcome, You're welcome.

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01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 4: Boy, we have a lot.

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01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 2: Maybe we got to talk to the to CCM and

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01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 2: see if they can get us a little h Maybe

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01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 2: we do our own little mortgage here at the cross

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Speaker 2: Country right here at the end disclosed. Sort this sucker out.

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01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 4: Sorry, Nick, we're not going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Sure, we're not going anywhere. We bought it.

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01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 11: You did what Yeah, that's right, that's right, that's fine,

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01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 11: no issues. I like it here, dogs beers. Do you

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01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 11: think we could verbo this place?

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01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 4: Oh yes, you think?

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01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we could probably turn a little tidy it here

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Speaker 2: and then auction off experiences. Or you come and hang

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Speaker 2: out with us for a show, and then for.

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Speaker 4: Sure, for sure, well after after next week the cafe

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01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,679
Speaker 4: is closed for not one, not two, but three weeks.

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01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,560
Speaker 2: Well. I also, train's got to get his ducks in

1627
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 2: a row over there now and turn one of these

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01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:19,719
Speaker 2: rooms into a merch store.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 2: I like it. So this one merchant whole operation in

1631
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 2: get some merch. I like it.

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01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 4: You can tweet at the show at Brown's Underscore Daily.

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01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 4: It is mail bag time from sassy Jim Harbaugh for

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01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 4: Uncle Bo. How many points will Michigan beat Ohio State

1635
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 4: by this season? Geez chesty, chesty Wolverines fans.

1636
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 2: I gotta take it. I gotta take it. They deserve it.

1637
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 2: They've won the last two.

1638
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 4: Enjoy it.

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01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 2: I would argue that this is that they should. I'll

1640
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 2: be interesting how Michigan handles prosperity because they will be

1641
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 2: favored in the game. They play nobody, so they will

1642
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 2: be undefeated going into the game. This is Harbaugh's best team.

1643
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 2: I think he's had. I think they should win. I

1644
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: think they should. I don't know if they will, but

1645
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 2: I think they should.

1646
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 4: Expectation time now, I deal with it. And you laid

1647
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 4: an egg in the National semi final last year.

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01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 2: They've won the last two. They deserve to be chesty.

1649
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 2: Let them live, all right, live a little bit?

1650
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 4: Uh from Logan. Do you think the Browns are set

1651
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 4: with Ford as our backup or could they look at

1652
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,320
Speaker 4: a free agent to add Zigura.

1653
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 2: I believe that as of today, yes, but we got

1654
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 2: to put the pads on. We've got to see a

1655
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 2: little more.

1656
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 3: I think they feel very confident in him being able

1657
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 3: to be the running backup to Nick Chubb. So the

1658
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 3: question becomes, do they feel the need to add a

1659
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 3: passing back as a you know, veteran a JD. Mckissing,

1660
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 3: somebody who can just catch the football.

1661
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 2: Do that now?

1662
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 3: And let's not forget Elijah Moore is gonna be in

1663
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 3: the backfield. I feel like in some of these passing

1664
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 3: situations as well.

1665
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: So I do think that they.

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Speaker 3: Feel pretty good about where they're at right now Jerome Ford,

1667
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 3: but it's it's his job to.

1668
01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 2: Solidify, If that makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I think that if he goes out there and performs

1670
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 3: at a certain level, then yes, the Browns will feel

1671
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 3: very comfortable with him as the number two.

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Speaker 4: You can get more from Jerome Ford with yours Truly

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Speaker 2: little Jennifer Lawrence. I think she's pretty damn funny. I

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Speaker 2: like her sense of humor. Jennifer Lawrence is fantastic. She's

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Speaker 2: strong man. I like a Sidney Sweeney too.

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Speaker 3: I like my favorite, no favorite acting I think Jennifer

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Speaker 3: Lawrence would be up there. Sophia Vargara and then, well

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Speaker 3: that's a difference. That's my favorite actress.

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Speaker 2: Different operation.

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Speaker 3: And then I'm gonna throw a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: curve botch because I find her so entertaining. Jennifer Coolidge. Yes,

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Speaker 3: she's just perfect what she is asked to.

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Speaker 2: Do's I wonder if that's her yes or if there's

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Speaker 2: a if that's a not? If she's playing in its

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Speaker 2: enhanced version of her? Would it be funny to see

1693
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Speaker 2: her as the female love interest of LD on an

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Speaker 2: episode of kurb Amazing. Wouldn't that be solid? Oh? Man,

1695
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Speaker 2: be great?

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Speaker 4: Love a dog today in honor of the Iron Sheek,

1697
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 4: who's your favorite all time heel? By the way, my

1698
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 4: golf league the other night, my good friend Travis and

1699
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 4: I were playing a couple friends of ours in the

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Speaker 4: league and there might have been some credits at stake,

1701
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 4: and then they won the match. We tried to double

1702
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,720
Speaker 4: down and as a result, I got camel clutched on

1703
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 4: the ninth hole. It hurts, and there's photos of it.

1704
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 4: He got Camel clutched and I got Ami clutch wasn't great.

1705
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 4: Who's your favorite all time heel? Bobby the Brain Heenan,

1706
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 4: It's a good one. Wow, he was amazing.

1707
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 3: My favorite heel, and I guess it's because it's the

1708
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:14,599
Speaker 3: heel that you end up you like. I loved mister Perfect,

1709
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 3: I loved Ravishing, Rick Rude.

1710
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 2: Those guys were just too great that they were heels.

1711
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 2: They were they were heelings, but like they were. I

1712
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 2: don't know who didn't love that. I'd love those guys.

1713
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 2: They're the best.

1714
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 3: When the Rock was a heel, when he was doing

1715
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 3: like rock concerts and stuff and did the great Sacramento one.

1716
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 2: I loved that. Flair is a great heel because for

1717
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 2: us he was a heel.

1718
01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 3: He was and I love the nature boy, but sometimes

1719
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 3: I just felt like he would get whooped.

1720
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it wasn't about that. I mean, like him

1721
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: and Hogan were the faces of it, and neither one

1722
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:55,520
Speaker 2: were like great wrestlers.

1723
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 3: No, Flair was a great wrestler, Hogan was not a

1724
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 3: great Flair was a great technical wrestler. I'm saying sometimes

1725
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 3: it felt like, although he was pretty big back in

1726
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:04,639
Speaker 3: the day, I love the Nature boy.

1727
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 2: I think we did. I didn't I did, it was

1728
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 2: not exposed to his greatness like it was. I don't

1729
01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 2: even remember him at w c W. I just you

1730
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 2: know he was that all came later. Yeah, match was

1731
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 2: a great heel. I mean, Roman rain Hogan was a

1732
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 2: pretty good heel. He was more interesting as a heel

1733
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 2: than he was as a Yeah, they were great.

1734
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 3: The whole Roman reigns right now is having one of

1735
01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 3: the best runs ever period and he's over a thousand

1736
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,680
Speaker 3: days as champ and he is an awful heel and

1737
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 3: he's great.

1738
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, his music's great.

1739
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 4: Don't you like it? Uh, Steph, don't you. Joe Thomas

1740
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 4: is now involved with the Munich Ravens in the European

1741
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,600
Speaker 4: League of Football. Can you envision the ELF as a

1742
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 4: kind of minor league for the NFL, especially in developing

1743
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:56,480
Speaker 4: certain positions.

1744
01:21:57,880 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 2: Do we know the details on this?

1745
01:21:59,360 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 4: We don't.

1746
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 2: I don't know anything, all right, Obviously we're connected. The

1747
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:08,599
Speaker 2: scores say that he's not going to be a coach there.

1748
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 4: Okay, maybe he's doing some advising or he's doing some

1749
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 4: position stuff.

1750
01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 3: He might go there like this time of year for

1751
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,560
Speaker 3: a very brief period of time and lend some expertise

1752
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 3: and take a vacation to Germany.

1753
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 4: That seems more in line with huffs, some German beer,

1754
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 4: some leaders for something NFL Europe. He was just there, Yeah,

1755
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 4: he was just riding there.

1756
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 2: He was in Germany last week. Yes, that's when all

1757
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,719
Speaker 2: this came out. He was there. So I have pretty

1758
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 2: well sourced scores.

1759
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 4: On Eddie Spaghetti. I went to the Memorial Tournament Sunday

1760
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 4: after Sea Wo Kim hit his t shot on eighteen.

1761
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 4: He threw me his tee was pretty cool. Good stats.

1762
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 2: Good do you use that tea?

1763
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 4: I mean, what do you do?

1764
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 2: It's an interesting collector. Yeah, I would say that I

1765
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 2: would use that tea, Like, what are you going to do? Hey,

1766
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 2: this is it's Who's team Woo Kim, It's Who's tea.

1767
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna put.

1768
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 4: I don't want to go back down that road.

1769
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 3: I think if it was like you had t can

1770
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 3: make guy whole frame out of a team, the team

1771
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 3: put a golf ball on it. You gotta five, you

1772
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 3: gotta get one of his golf ball signed, and then you.

1773
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 2: Put it on the tee. And you mount it.

1774
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,799
Speaker 4: Did you guys see this about the UFO and Cali?

1775
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 4: So yeah, Jeff, we've talked about.

1776
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 3: It well and in Vegas and there were ten feet

1777
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 3: tall people or non people in this guy's backyard and

1778
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 3: the police's dead body cam caught the UFO crashing.

1779
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 2: Hello yeah, eight foot people cruising around in backyards of Vegas.

1780
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 2: It's all happening. Kids, prepare recording.

1781
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 4: Uh, Bobby time ranked these Ohio bands Devo, the Black Keys,

1782
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 4: Bone Thugs and Harmony The OJ's the National is it

1783
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:51,719
Speaker 4: R is out of Columbus?

1784
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 2: I believe Yeah, that's in Ohio. One too.

1785
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 4: Might have played my house.

1786
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 2: After a of course concert O R Black Keys, Bone Thugs.

1787
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 2: All that's fine with me. Mm hmmm. Uh.

1788
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 4: Let's see rank these boy bands from Bobby in Sync,

1789
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 4: Backstreet Boys, the Beatles, New Kids on the Blocks Intment

1790
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 4: but Bobby.

1791
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 2: Bobby almost got banned, He almost got banned. Beatles A

1792
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 2: boy in sinc. Was a great band. They were not

1793
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,040
Speaker 2: a great band. They had one great vocalist. They didn't

1794
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:28,600
Speaker 2: play instruments. They had one vocalist and a bunch of

1795
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 2: dancers if you count as as could sing a little.

1796
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 2: They had one dude. They had the most talented dude

1797
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 2: of the lot who carried the whole operation. New Kids

1798
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 2: on the Block was a great, great band. Did they

1799
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 2: play instruments? They're hanging tough, bo I'm aware, I remember

1800
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 2: they still are.

1801
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 4: They're still making money like nobody.

1802
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're making money step by step in sync. In

1803
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: Sync was the best of the lot. Ye had Timberlake.

1804
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 2: They had the most talented guy of the operation. Ninety

1805
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 2: eighth degrees had a nice nick Lache peak that was.

1806
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 4: Just was in an elevator with in Cincinnati Bengals game.

1807
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,519
Speaker 2: He has a nice guy. I remember running him into

1808
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 2: him at the Daytona five hundred. Jessica Simpson at the

1809
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 2: peak of her power. She was dressed up as she

1810
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 2: was in the Daisy Duke thing, and I remember running

1811
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:24,280
Speaker 2: into him and like one of the like media things,

1812
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 2: and it just felt like he was so annoyed with

1813
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 2: all of it and so needless to say, when they

1814
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 2: didn't last, all makes sense.

1815
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 3: A reality show that would have been like so great today,

1816
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:38,719
Speaker 3: and it was great in its own day. That Osbourne'

1817
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 3: obviously was Osborne's Osborne reality shows.

1818
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 2: But the first year when they were unaware of what

1819
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 2: they were doing was unbelievable. So to say what I

1820
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 2: would say would be true of the Jersey Shore, like

1821
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 2: when they were unaware that they were going to be

1822
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,639
Speaker 2: something was I'll never get a buddy of mine produced

1823
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 2: on that, and he's like, dude, we've got I've got

1824
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 2: something here that I'm telling you is gonna be the

1825
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 2: bigest hit ever. I told you the story. At the

1826
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 2: superb party in Dallas, we were in a room.

1827
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 3: Timberlake was there, I was there with Ashton to me

1828
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 3: like there were it was a who's who party. Yeah,

1829
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 3: the most popular person in the place that every celebrity

1830
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 3: wanted to pitch with was the situation. He was the

1831
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 3: it was a jail popular pretty yes, for tax evasion.

1832
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 3: He was the most popular person at a super Bowl

1833
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 3: party that had everybody in the world there.

1834
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 2: He was the guy.

1835
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 3: But as to say, the Newlyweds, which was Asca Simpson

1836
01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 3: Nickolache a tremendous reality show. And you could not come

1837
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 3: out of that thinking anything other than that. Nick Lache

1838
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 3: was a solid, solid dude.

1839
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:41,720
Speaker 2: Agreed, Yeah, and then he with a lot and as

1840
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 2: it turned out, like her dad was the worst of

1841
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 2: all locos. Yes, the worst of all of it. Yes.

1842
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 2: By the way, that Leache married that empty other MTVVJ.

1843
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 2: That Vanessa Manilo marrying her. Yeah yeah, good job by him,

1844
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 2: good job at him?

1845
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 4: Uh from Bobby? Do you ever wish that you were

1846
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 4: raised differently?

1847
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 2: Every day? I mean, I don't even know where to go.

1848
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 2: I got a text from my dad today telling me

1849
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,720
Speaker 2: that they got one and seven tenths of rain. That's

1850
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:13,200
Speaker 2: the only text. Okay, it was, what what do I care?

1851
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 2: One in seven one and seven tenths. That's how little

1852
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 2: rain they get. He's measuring by tents, although it's poured

1853
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 2: for two days in a row. That's all the text is.

1854
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 2: You think I'm kidding, That's all it was. I didn't

1855
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 2: even respond, like, what am I going to say? I

1856
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 2: guess good for you. Yeah, that's fine it we got

1857
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 2: either one point seven tenths last night. Just quit an

1858
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 2: hour ago. Okay, thanks, thanks for that my dad. By

1859
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:38,800
Speaker 2: the way, during the middle of my show in the morning,

1860
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 2: I love it.

1861
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 4: I love your dad, Remember what I do? Nah?

1862
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 2: Do you care? I like you. I care how much

1863
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 2: rain you got on the ponderosa last night?

1864
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 3: My dad sends me a lot of good forty nine

1865
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 3: or stuff. He'll be like, this is a good read,

1866
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,600
Speaker 3: some food and wine stuff, and then a lot of

1867
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 3: just like bashing of San Francisco stuff.

1868
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, then you need you move. You

1869
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 2: need to move here. I always said, a move here.

1870
01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 3: He sent me yesterday the clubhouse at Lake Shabbou, which

1871
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 3: is one of the first courts I ever learned to

1872
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,600
Speaker 3: play golf at one of my favorite mountainous hilly It

1873
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 3: had a seven hundred yard par five that was the

1874
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 3: first six hundred yards were basically like.

1875
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 2: Straight down a cliff. Oh that's fun. So you could

1876
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 2: bomb it and it would roll forever.

1877
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 3: You'd have to hit another bomb, and if you could

1878
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,200
Speaker 3: hit two good bombs, you get to the bottom. Then

1879
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 3: you had to hit straight back up a hill to

1880
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,640
Speaker 3: a little perched green for the third shot of the

1881
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 3: par five. For a while it was a par six.

1882
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I like that occasional. But

1883
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 2: a fire destroyed. So he sent that to me.

1884
01:28:33,680 --> 01:28:36,880
Speaker 3: He also wants me, now, what does an air quality monitor?

1885
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,080
Speaker 3: Why should every California have one? He said, I need

1886
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 3: to get one of these immediately. Due to the train

1887
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 3: derailment and Canadian wildfires.

1888
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 2: They're getting him too huh oh yeah, oh you need that.

1889
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 4: No, I need it. My wife was saying something today,

1890
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 4: She's like, I just read something like the air really

1891
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 4: isn't that bad. It's for people that only have respiratory issues.

1892
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 4: I go, then why is the EP issuing an air

1893
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 4: quality alert? I I don't know what are we doing?

1894
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 2: Get this sorted out? So much more to come. You

1895
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 2: listen to Clear the Brods Daily on.

1896
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 1: Coming soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

1897
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:42,800
Speaker 2: H your lakeside next week. Yeah, it's gonna be a

1898
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 2: little whether. We got to give a shout out to

1899
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 2: my guy, Jason cedar Point will be oh choice. He's

1900
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 2: a hero, he is an all timer, he's an Alzheimer.

1901
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 2: It is America's theme park of choice. That's right, That's

1902
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,720
Speaker 2: what it is. It's the greatest thing that you could

1903
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 2: do in a day from a theme park perspective. I

1904
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 2: was just at Disney. There's nothing like it, no bomb thrill,

1905
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 2: everything's a banger. Yes, there's nothing better, no comparison, there's

1906
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:14,639
Speaker 2: nothing better. Yeah, we're lucky we have it. Agree, absolutely,

1907
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 2: So you got that, and then you do a little lakeside.

1908
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 3: It will be a little lakeside at the end of

1909
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 3: the week up there to throw the kids off the tube.

1910
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh yeah, old, you'll be doing a lot

1911
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 3: of tubing, a.

1912
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 2: Lot of cackling out of you. I can imagine running

1913
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 2: a boat watching humans, but I like to get pulled

1914
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 2: as well, So you do. I understand. You know, there's

1915
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 2: a fine line.

1916
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 3: There's there's fun, and you get them tossed off eventually

1917
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 3: and there's like dangerous and I try to keep it.

1918
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:42,439
Speaker 2: The line cannot be crossed, no, because if it gets

1919
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:44,880
Speaker 2: crossed and you're talking about broken collar bones.

1920
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 3: And potentially or like sometimes when they slack it so

1921
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 3: hard and you're holding on, it can like rip your

1922
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 3: shoulders out.

1923
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 2: That happened to me. Yeah, somebody. They were trying to

1924
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:53,800
Speaker 2: pull me on a jet ski behind a tube and

1925
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, what are you doing? What are you doing?

1926
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:56,600
Speaker 2: But then I wasn't quick enough to be just like

1927
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,640
Speaker 2: let go. It's like, oh, you gotta just let go,

1928
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 2: because if you don't know what you're got to you

1929
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 2: have to get rid of the slack. First, kids, little

1930
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:05,679
Speaker 2: lesson from your uncle Bow. If you're doing the towing, well, yeah,

1931
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,240
Speaker 2: because slack.

1932
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 3: When all of a sudden the boat comes back around

1933
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 3: and you're sitting here and there's an all slack and

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Speaker 3: you know at some point it's gonna pull, and then

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Speaker 3: you're gonna get You're gone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell you something else. The lesson from your

1937
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Speaker 2: uncle Bow. If you're on a jet ski and you're

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Speaker 2: pulling a tube, make sure you know where the slack is,

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Speaker 2: because you drive over the slack and a jet ski

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Speaker 2: it will inhale it and then you get to swim

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Speaker 2: to shore. Everybody gets some to shore, which is a

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Speaker 2: lot of fun. Thanks for that. Have a great weekend, everybody.

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Speaker 2: The next level is coming up next. Of a great

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Speaker 2: week buddy.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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