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Speaker 1: Star in frascol A busy week ahead for the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys from Oxnard, California. Practices each of the next three

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Speaker 1: days and five of the next six is training camp.

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Speaker 1: Rolls on here from the West Coast, presented by American Airlines,

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Speaker 1: and we are talking Cowboys. Kyle you Almen's Mickey spag

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Speaker 1: Nola raising his hands because he got his Sunrise bike

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Speaker 1: ride in today. And then Rob Phillips as well as well.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's the start of the Sprint. I guess

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Speaker 1: if this week in the marathon really of the NFL season.

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Speaker 1: We're just underway. But Rob, I mean this is a

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Speaker 1: crucial week for a lot of these young guys on

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Speaker 1: the roster. What are you looking for as we head

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Speaker 1: into practice number four today? About to get to some

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Speaker 1: good stuff. We got one more practice I believe without

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Speaker 1: pads today and then yeah, Wednesday is everything. All the

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Speaker 1: questions we get about guys, I think you have to

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Speaker 1: you have to couch it with where they are right

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Speaker 1: now in practice starting Wednesday, and then leading up to

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Speaker 1: that first preseason game. I think the evaluations hold a

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Speaker 1: little more water when you're seeing guys not tackle each other, mick,

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Speaker 1: but just a little more physicality and more more like

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Speaker 1: real football when they're in full pass. What's those pads on? Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: let's see what happens, and yeah, it'll be interesting. You know.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I like to point out is,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you playing underwear football, wide receivers are

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Speaker 1: real bold going over the right. Now, let's see if

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Speaker 1: they have any anxiety that knowing that when they catch

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Speaker 1: who's going to knock the snot out of them, especially

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Speaker 1: going over the middle. And these guys have been running

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Speaker 1: to get the snot knocked out. Well, but they'll get hit.

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Speaker 1: eighty eight and nineteen, but these other numbers. That's fair game. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then the other thing today I want to see,

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Speaker 1: Because we've seen that here before where you get a

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Speaker 1: day off or two and it's almost like being on vacation,

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Speaker 1: right and you come back to work and you're like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get back in the routine. Well, there's no

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Speaker 1: interesting to see how at ten of they are or

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Speaker 1: if the coaches have to work hard to get their attention. Well,

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Speaker 1: and you've also mentally just look three straight practices. That

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Speaker 1: has not happened this camp, and I'm not sure it's happened. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess it happened in OTAs. But now with pads

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Speaker 1: be most young guys playing, but it's that's an opportunity

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Speaker 1: for guys to stand out on this ninety man roster. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're now in the single digits until it's single digit days,

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Speaker 1: I should say, until the Cowboys do travel to Canton.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great point that Mike brought up

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Speaker 1: you gotta go back out there. You gotta have that

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Speaker 1: five of the next six days, kind of get not

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Speaker 1: you'll get your regeneration day on Friday. It's mandatory, right,

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Speaker 1: it's in the CBA. How many days in a row

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Speaker 1: come on, Okay, we want your intensity, but we also

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Speaker 1: want to protect each other. Keep everybody up, nobody on

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Speaker 1: That's that's when Jason Garrett was here. That was a

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Speaker 1: let's be careful. Stop and stop me if I told

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Speaker 1: you guys this before. But you know, thirty some years

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Speaker 1: But we've mentioned the wide receivers and kind of the

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Speaker 1: Oh serious, Mitchell. A lot of these young wide receivers

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Speaker 1: and then is safety that big of a concern right now?

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're panicking at safety. They're just saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: he missed last year. He's tores uh killies September twentieth.

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Speaker 1: He asked a great question the other day, very simple

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Speaker 1: also the third. But still some pretty high hopes on

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Speaker 1: their end. And one thing, one more thing on Neville Gallimore.

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Speaker 1: Even with the limited access that we had last year

427
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Speaker 1: with players, I gotta has to talk with him at

428
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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Got a chance to talk with him

429
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Speaker 1: over zoom after the draft, and then I had a

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Speaker 1: chance to talk with him the other day when we

431
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Speaker 1: showed up here in Oxnard. And every time I've talked

432
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Speaker 1: to him, I've seen a considerable difference and a considerable

433
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Speaker 1: raise in his confidence. And you can see it just

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Speaker 1: in the way that he talks, in the way that

435
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Speaker 1: he's been around other people. And now that's different, of course,

436
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Speaker 1: because he's had more time to talk to the media

437
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: and he's been around this team longer. But if that's

438
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Speaker 1: something that translates to the field, which I think it will,

439
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: that's something to watch out for for a guy like

440
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Speaker 1: Nevill Gallimore. And let's not forget Bohannah, and he would

441
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Speaker 1: be the type of guy that you got to see

442
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Speaker 1: him in pads and see just what he can do

443
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the line to kind of hold up.

444
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Speaker 1: And you know what impressed me with him in the

445
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Speaker 1: mini camp and OTAs was the fact we're talking a

446
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Speaker 1: six or four guy that's three to thirty or least

447
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Speaker 1: that's what they got him listed at that moves like

448
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Speaker 1: he could be a tight end. So I like the

449
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Speaker 1: fact that he's got good feet and and and he's

450
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Speaker 1: and he's mobile at that size. So when the pads

451
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Speaker 1: come on, let's see what if he can make an

452
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Speaker 1: impression and earn him some snaps. When they drafted him,

453
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Speaker 1: I just I immediately thought of don Terry. Poe just

454
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Speaker 1: immediately thought because just a huge guy inside who can

455
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Speaker 1: help plug the run and and create you know, create

456
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Speaker 1: less space in the run game. Poe did not do that.

457
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Speaker 1: You know, he's done that through about to say, Bohannah,

458
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Speaker 1: right now, I'm not making a direct comparison. I'm saying

459
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Speaker 1: what the role is. And Okay, I think and Mickey's

460
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Speaker 1: point is right, Like he's for his size and he's

461
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Speaker 1: been listed at different weights throughout his college career. I

462
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Speaker 1: think he's like you said, three thirty here, three sixty

463
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Speaker 1: was one listed weight at Kentucky. Whatever he is, he

464
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Speaker 1: doesn't move like one one and less meal when he

465
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Speaker 1: when he's not a tree stump, this guy can be

466
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Speaker 1: active defensive line. Yeah. Yeah, So I'm be interested when

467
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Speaker 1: the pads. Come on what he does? If he's not

468
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Speaker 1: a tree stump? What was don Terry po Don Terry

469
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Speaker 1: Poe was basically a broken downfrigerator. Okay, could I was

470
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Speaker 1: about to say, could could we say it on air?

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Speaker 1: I think that's a pretty good one. Okay, here's Ernie

472
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: switching things to the offensive side of the football. He asked,

473
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Speaker 1: this offense has struggled with slow starts in the past.

474
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Speaker 1: Have you been able to see and this isn't just

475
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Speaker 1: really around training camp, but he maintain individual games. I'm

476
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Speaker 1: getting correct in games? Have you been able to see

477
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Speaker 1: the differences in areas of growth of Kellen Moore's game

478
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Speaker 1: when it comes to tempo, execution and situational football going

479
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Speaker 1: into his third year. I don't know. That might be

480
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Speaker 1: overthinking it. I don't disagree that they've had slow starts,

481
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Speaker 1: even when Dak's been healthy. They've and I don't know

482
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Speaker 1: if I can put my finger on it why, but

483
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: they have had trouble going back to twenty nineteen kind

484
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Speaker 1: of getting out of the gate. It's not every game,

485
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Speaker 1: but it does happen. I will say, situationally, what we've

486
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Speaker 1: really watched the most is the two minutes stuff, and

487
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: I think Dack's been really good there so far. Um.

488
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Speaker 1: I think all all three quarterbacks did a nice job

489
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Speaker 1: in the two minute Mick the other day, really well

490
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Speaker 1: where Nucci and and Danucci was working with the seconds too.

491
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Speaker 1: But yes, because Cooper Rush has the back spasms. But

492
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Speaker 1: it was a situation where it was either a tie

493
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Speaker 1: score or they were down by two with minute and

494
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Speaker 1: change left, had to drive the length of the field

495
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Speaker 1: for a field goal to either win it or tie it.

496
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Speaker 1: And I think all three quarterbacks they stopped the drill

497
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Speaker 1: by the time they got in field goal position, so

498
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Speaker 1: it was it was a good It was good work

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Speaker 1: for all three quarterbacks there. Yeah. Yeah, I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: slow when he said slow starts, and I guess he

501
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Speaker 1: meant in games because correct, the first five games they

502
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Speaker 1: averaged thirty two points a game. So you know, I

503
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Speaker 1: don't know what happened in the first quarter, but you know, uh,

504
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Speaker 1: if they didn't have slow starts, they might have averaged

505
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Speaker 1: forty a game. I guess, good point. It's a good point.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's something that Kelly Moore can work on. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of kellw for touchdowns, right, yeah, go, I'll see some

508
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: sixty yard passes right out the gate point of the

509
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Speaker 1: game right find the end zone. They did have some

510
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: games playing from behind and they and a lot of turnovers.

511
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Uh. Emilio asks any new updates for Amari

512
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Speaker 1: Cooper and DeMarcus Lawrence. There possible return dates. I believe

513
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Speaker 1: Jerry spoke on this, right Mickey. Uh. Jerry said after

514
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Speaker 1: Arizona UM, DeMarcus Lawrence can go out there and play

515
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Speaker 1: a game right now. Okay. I watched him do his

516
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Speaker 1: rehab this last practice and he's he's running like his

517
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Speaker 1: hair's on fire. Uh, doing all the drills uh and

518
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: moving really really well. They're just being overly cautious with him, uh,

519
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Speaker 1: knowing that he doesn't need these mini camp practices. You know,

520
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Speaker 1: you didn't have him in mini camp before. He doesn't

521
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Speaker 1: need mini camp practices. When the pads come on and

522
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Speaker 1: they feel like it's time to go, he will be

523
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Speaker 1: ready to go. We'll see an Amari. H. I at

524
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Speaker 1: least saw him, um what days today, Monday, Tuesday, Tuesday,

525
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Speaker 1: So Sunday he was out on the chords. That was

526
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Speaker 1: the first time I had seen him on the chord.

527
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Speaker 1: It's always a good son. He might be able to

528
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Speaker 1: do being doing that and just didn't do it when

529
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Speaker 1: we were around. But again, I think with him and

530
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Speaker 1: he's pretty particular, so I think they're just being cautious

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Speaker 1: with him too. But I think by the time the

532
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Speaker 1: season starts, both guys will be ready to going out.

533
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Speaker 1: I think almost everybody that they put on pop UH

534
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: should be ready. You know, it's hard to know on

535
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: Gholston when you have a hamstring like that. Um but too.

536
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Speaker 1: And Tristan Hill, they look he was working hard yesterday,

537
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Speaker 1: I mean the day before UH, because he was working

538
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Speaker 1: out with with Lawrence and he was doing all the

539
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Speaker 1: same stuff Lawrence was doing, and he was running really hard,

540
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Speaker 1: and he's all in. Here's kind of their thought. I

541
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Speaker 1: think on Tristan Hill, they got it. They got these

542
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: defensive tackles, right, you got one that you put on pup. Now,

543
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Speaker 1: do you want him competing with all these other guys

544
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 1: that are fully healthy or do you say, you know,

545
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Speaker 1: I don't want to cut any of these guys. Maybe

546
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Speaker 1: I leave him on PUP for six weeks and then

547
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: by time the six weeks are up, he'll be even

548
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: further removed from his torn ACL I'll probably have an

549
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 1: injury or so along the way and then I can

550
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: activate him. So I think they look at Tristan Hill

551
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: as being in their hip pocket right now. He's almost

552
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: like an unofficial reserve is basically what they're going to

553
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: use that pup list as. And I think there's no

554
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: rush to get him back out there. And like you said,

555
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Speaker 1: with the amount of defensive tackles that we've already spoken about,

556
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Speaker 1: I think it is without And we didn't even mention

557
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: Bret Urban, right, Brent Urban, Yeah, yeah, well he's look

558
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 1: Tristan's also three hundred pounds, so it was coming off

559
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: an injury like that usually takes a little bit longer

560
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: than it would for a Blake Jarwin. So I want

561
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: to kind of switch this back over to the offense

562
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: really quickly. A couple of questions coming in about Connor

563
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: Williams taking the backup UH center reps yesterday and maybe

564
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Speaker 1: being that reserve center should something happen to the starter

565
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Speaker 1: Tyler Beyotish, is there a possibility and this is from

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Speaker 1: Scott by the way, is there a possibility that Connor

567
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Speaker 1: Williams could move to the starter spot at center and

568
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Speaker 1: then maybe a Connor McGovern who played really well down

569
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Speaker 1: the stretch last year move into the starting left guard spot,

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Speaker 1: any chance at all, I don't see that. I think

571
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Speaker 1: I think they're looking for Joe Looney's replacement in house.

572
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Speaker 1: Tyler Beotish is good. He is good. He's good. He

573
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Speaker 1: was better than Joe Looney. So was that smoking the

574
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: fire again? I think, so you did it this time?

575
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: I did it? Yeah, I mean, do these guys watch

576
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: the games? He was he he had won that starting

577
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: center job after Looney went out with his sprain knee

578
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: and then he got hurt right, and then he missed

579
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: four games, and then you know, by time you get

580
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: back in the swing of things, it's two more. And

581
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: I think they just thought, look, for continuity's sake, we're

582
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna leave uh Looney in there. This kid

583
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: would have won that job in the off season. If

584
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: he was an off season I'd completely agree. Freak thing too,

585
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: didn't he hurt his hamstring and warm up up that

586
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: that was? That was twenty in a nutshell. So I

587
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: don't want to to to ridicule Scott. I think he

588
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: does probably watch the games, and he's probably not hating

589
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: on Tyler Ben. Yeah, I mean Scott name so, But

590
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: I think maybe the concern that that Scott may have

591
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: or maybe even other fans out there, is the availability.

592
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: Connor Williams was the only player on the offensive line,

593
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: starting offensive line to play all sixteen games last year.

594
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: And if out of all of your offensive line coming

595
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: off an ACL coming that which is extremely important, out

596
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: of all the offensive line spots, what's the most important

597
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: to have a rapport with center. Gotta have a rapport

598
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: with center. So maybe that's some of the thought process

599
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: that goes into that question. But I agree with you

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Speaker 1: both of you. I don't think it's ever going to happen.

601
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: I think Tyler Beotish is the guy. I think it's

602
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: his job to lose. Just you have to have a

603
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: backup at center. They don't have a backup right now.

604
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: They've had Connor Williams focusing on guard yep or Connor

605
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: McGovern folks, excuse me, focusing on guard. H Brandon Knight

606
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Speaker 1: is focused on guard. So they've maybe they've got that

607
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: position set up. Yeah, they don't have a backup center.

608
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 1: And what tells what's interesting about this though, is if

609
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: it works out and and it's it's an adjustment period

610
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: for Connor Williams. He didn't really play the position ever. Um.

611
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,959
Speaker 1: They he said after practice coming out of college, they

612
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: looked at him as teams looked at him as a

613
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: tackle and a guard. Um. So there's an adjustment there,

614
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: see if he can do it. But it tells me

615
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: they're willing to, you know, switch to positions in the

616
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: starting five if they have to, which tells me maybe

617
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: they're open to doing what they did last year before

618
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: Zach's injury. Well at right tackle if I did, but

619
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Speaker 1: or left tackle. But answer this question, if it's not him,

620
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Speaker 1: who's the backup center? Uh? And don't tell me Forniac

621
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Speaker 1: it's not we would be I think week one, but

622
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: he is. Braylon Jones was the other one rookie free agent.

623
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: Can have anybody other than Beatish on this ninety man

624
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: roster that took a snap at center in the NFL

625
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: last year. I know that's That's that's what's worrisome. That's

626
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: why with that question, it's Tyler Biadis's job. There's no

627
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: questions about that because of what they haven't done at

628
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: that position. Connor McGovern played it at Penn State. He

629
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: could play center. For whatever reason, they're leaving him kind

630
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: of guard, letting him focus on that. But the last

631
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: time he did that was forty years ago. I know.

632
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: I'm just hey, we're just digging down here. Who Who's who?

633
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: Has snapped a football? Yeah? Yeah, side, Oh, I've snapped

634
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: a football before. I have to get in there, Mick,

635
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: there go gunning snaps didn't go five feet over the

636
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: guy's head. Goodness gracious. I think week one you see

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Speaker 1: what Unich can have the biggest jump from last year? Well, no, okay,

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Speaker 1: giving you five choices defensive line, cornerback, running back, offensive line, linebackers.

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Speaker 1: So can or needs to can? But most likely to

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Speaker 1: pretty good. Do you think that will happen? Do you

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Speaker 1: think it will be the biggest jump? Yeah? I think so,

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Speaker 1: because Layton Vanders is going to be healthy. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of competition on who's going

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Speaker 1: to be on that on those top three. But if if,

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Speaker 1: if Micah Parson is on the field where he will be, uh,

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Speaker 1: they'll make the biggest jump. Offensive line. Why is that?

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Speaker 1: Because everybody's healthy right now? I would say offensive line

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Speaker 1: can and will needs to. Defensive tackle, They've got to

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Speaker 1: be better on the interior defensive tackle. That's why they

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Speaker 1: That's why they signed Harlos Watkins. That that was a

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Speaker 1: they really need to be more effective there especial scifically

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Speaker 1: against the run. Yeah, you can't be thirty first again

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Speaker 1: That's not a not a thing. Okay, So so who

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Speaker 1: you got? Oh I got? I would actually agree with

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Speaker 1: Layton vander esh will have a healthier year hopefully everybody

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Speaker 1: forever with the Dallas Cowboys to have a rookie linebacker

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Speaker 1: go to the Pro Bowl. And he's got a chip

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Speaker 1: on his shoulder that declined his fifth year option. He's

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Speaker 1: got to find a way to either one go into

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Speaker 1: He's got a mentally focus off season behind him, because

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Speaker 1: he even talked about that a little bit, and I

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Speaker 1: I agree completely, all right, what positions have the best

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Speaker 1: I put I put four here. You can add one

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Speaker 1: if you want. Quarterback, wide receiver, safety, cornerback. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of tough, right because I feel like on paper,

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Speaker 1: it is tough and maybe safe. I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: anything that just sticks. Safety is gonna be worse than

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Speaker 1: last year. That's what I'm saying. It's kind of what

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Speaker 1: I was thinking, is it's gotta get better. And really,

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Speaker 1: even those positions at corner you drafted a guy in

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Speaker 1: the second round. Yep, you had some injuries. It's it

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Speaker 1: wasn't season ending, but Anthony Brown missed half the season,

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Speaker 1: Like you have depth there, Yeah, digs should be better.

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Speaker 1: Missed almost the entire season. Yeah. Um. I talked to

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Speaker 1: He said, I got my hands on fourteen balls last

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Speaker 1: Wright plays with pads on. Yeah, yeah, agreed, they might

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Speaker 1: be better. Name were the four options again? So I

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Speaker 1: put quarterback, wide receiver, safety, cornerback, well, quarterback. If number

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Speaker 1: one doesn't stay healthy, yeah, you know there's an other position.

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Speaker 1: Who's the backup? Yep, That's kind of why I put

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Speaker 1: it there. I'm not necessarily saying Dak's gonna see a regression.

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Speaker 1: That's the only thing I could see is if there's

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Speaker 1: got to be healthier. They need Kelvin Joseph to step

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Speaker 1: in and be able to play. That might be the

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Speaker 1: closest one or safety. Just because we just talked about

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Speaker 1: have as good of a year as he did in

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Speaker 1: just trying to answer the question, what did what did

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Speaker 1: they lose? Uh? Oh they did? Yes? Yeah, okay? And

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Speaker 1: and and I still think he was underrated. He was

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Speaker 1: misused last year. They were playing him like a linebacker

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Speaker 1: in the nickel defense. What he should have been He

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Speaker 1: should have been deep Wilson should have been the box,

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Speaker 1: the box safe instead. And they were using him as

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Speaker 1: a linebacker at what skinny two hundred and fifteen pound

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Speaker 1: maybe twenty two fifteen maybe maybe. And the other team's

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Speaker 1: playing two tight ends and he's playing in the box. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: I can't disagree with you there. Okay, I'm gonna move

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Speaker 1: on to this final question. The Olympics are happening right now.

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Speaker 1: after that. Okay, who would be on your podium for

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Speaker 1: best Cowboys of all time? You've got three minutes to

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Speaker 1: tell me why you got a gold, silver and bronze.

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Speaker 1: Mean it's pretty I mean you if it's easy, tell me.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna say Roger Stobuch right, yep, hence the gold, right,

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Speaker 1: unless you want to argue with Troy Achman got heath

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Speaker 1: bronze the goat David Ellman's shout out, Yeah, goodness, gracious,

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Speaker 1: I would I put Roger, Yeah, Bob Lily's got to

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Speaker 1: put him bronze. I'd put Roger gold, I put Emmett's silver.

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Speaker 1: That's my exactary. I didn't turn out in our little pole.

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Speaker 1: I actually went back and looked at it. Roger was one, Bob,

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Speaker 1: Lily was two, Emmett was three, Akman was four. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that was pretty good. But I flip flopped Lily

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Speaker 1: as silver when I voted on it, I had him

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Speaker 1: silver too. I missed the pole. I didn't see the

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Speaker 1: pole you voted on it didn't. It was a while back.

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Speaker 1: It was like last year, long time ago. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: to sixty of all time. It was like the sixtieth

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Speaker 1: anniversary thing. I thought, you mean you put it like

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Speaker 1: Bob Yeager. I agree, Bob good with that. I think

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Speaker 1: I'm Troy with it. You can you can substitute Troy

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Speaker 1: argument there. There is definitely Rogers there. Yeah, Captain America,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. I mean, people somehow even you know,

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Speaker 1: when it started coming to the Pro Football Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 1: voting Aikman for Granted, he was good. He was good,

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Speaker 1: and they weren't there without him. I guarantee you that

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Speaker 1: I don't care if they had Emmett and Michael and

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Speaker 1: no doubt, just simple as that. Well, he's fourth on

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Speaker 1: the list right now out of the ones that we've mentioned.

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Speaker 1: He's not like fourteen or fifty. No, that's why I

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Speaker 1: said he was second, and that's why I said it's

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Speaker 1: a good argument him or Roger. Well, there you go.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I just kind of wanted to pick

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Speaker 1: your brains for a little bit. I haven't been around

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Speaker 1: and I thought catching up. I'm trying. I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: get there. But that's gonna do it for us here

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Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys. Busy week ahead. We've got practices in

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Speaker 1: each of the next three days, five of the next six.

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Speaker 1: We'll be back on Thursday to break it all down

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Speaker 1: for you, and then again on Saturday for Rob Phillips

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Speaker 1: Mickey's bag. No, I'm Kyle Yulmans. We'll see you next

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