1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Bloomberg eleventh, Brio to Washington, 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: d C, Bloomber to Boston, Bluemberg, Well Undis to San 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Francisco Bloomberg nine to the Country's series Exam Channel one 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: nineteen and around the globe the Bloomberg Radio plus Zappen 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Got Gone. This is taking Stock. Coming up on 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: taking stock, will take stock of labor and its implications 7 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: for the European Union. For example, in early June, and 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: we're protests in Paris over French labor reform bills. They 9 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: turned violent. Forty people were injured, seventy five thousand demonstrators 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: convening in the capital to block the new reform bill. 11 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: We've got details, but right now we'll go to Charlie 12 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: Pellett in the Bloomberg newsroom for details. And I think 13 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: you very much. Pim Fox, the DAL, the SMP NEZ 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: tank all trading higher twenty nine minutes to go ahead 15 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: of the clothes on a Tuesday. Here SMP five hundred 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: index at a record now at fifty two, up fifteen points. 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: That is a gain of seven tenths of one percent down. 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: Jones Industrial Average also at a record on track for 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: a record close here at eighteen thousand, three hundred fifty one, 20 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: the Dow rallying a hundred and twenty four points, up 21 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: seven tenths of one percent, and Nasdaq also hired by 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: seven tenths of one percent, up thirty five points to 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: five thousand, twenty four down. Jones Industrial Average gaining and 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: along with the smp is investors way corporate health amid 25 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: the start of earning season. Alcohol reported last night it 26 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: is now up by five point one percent. Gold dropping 27 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: the most in seven weeks as stock markets climb on 28 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: speculation that policy makers will act to spur growth. Right now, 29 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: gold is down twenty two sixty the ounce the thirteen 30 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: thirty four, that is a drop of one point seven percent. 31 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: Dennis Gartman is the editor of the Garment Letter. He 32 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: was interviewed this morning on Bloomberg Surveillance on Currency Trader. 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: We were always taught from uh from the outset to 34 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: be a buyer of one currency as seller of another. 35 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,679 Speaker 1: So I tend to be a buyer of gold in 36 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: euro terms. I tend to be a buyer of gold 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: in the end terms, and honestly, over the court of 38 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: past several actually over the course of past several years. 39 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: It's been a far better trade to have been involved in, 40 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: and it reduces the daily volatility, it reduces the abject 41 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: movements of gold. American Airlines Group expects new credit card 42 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: deals with City Group in Barkley's to boost its pretax 43 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: income by about one point five five billion dollars over 44 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: the next two and a half years. American Airlines Flying 45 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: high up eleven point four percent three thirty two on 46 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: Wall Street. Now, let's take a look at other news 47 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: from around the world. Thank you, Charlie from the Bloomberg 48 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: News room. I'm Jill Schneider in Dallas at this hour 49 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: a somber goodbye for five Dallas police officers who were 50 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 1: killed in an ambush last week. President of Bamba addressed 51 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: thousands of mourners, saying Dallas and the entire nation are 52 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: suffering the memory and more in the loss five fellow Americas. 53 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings also spoke, pointing out the presence 54 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: of some of his fellow city leaders. These men and 55 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: women are here with us because they know we have 56 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: a common disease, this absurd violence on our streets. Former 57 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: President George W. Bush also made remarks The attorney for 58 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: the family of a Minnesota black man who was shot 59 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: and killed by police during a traffic stop, says there 60 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: will be a lawsuit against the officer who fired the 61 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: Shops attorney Glenna Hatchett today announced the planned litigation in 62 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: the death of Philando Castile. State officials are still investigating 63 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: the shooting. The decision on possible criminal charges will fall 64 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: to a local county attorney. Senator Bernie Sanders has offered 65 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: his long awaited endorsement to Hillary Clinton. The two appeared 66 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: on stage together at a rally in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. 67 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: They have to reform our broken criminal justice system, take 68 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: back our democracy from the wealthy special interests, and make 69 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: our economy work for everyone, not just those at the top. 70 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: Republican presumptive nominee Donald Trump accused Sanders of selling out 71 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: to Clinton. Global News twenty four hours a day, powered 72 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: by more than journalists and analysts in more than one 73 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: twenty countries. I'm Jill Schneider, and this is Bloomberg, Charlie, 74 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: and we thank you, and again we capping S and 75 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: P five hundred index up sixteen points to three, a 76 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: gain of seven tenths of one percent. I'm Charlie Peloton. 77 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: That's a Bloomberg business flash. You're listening to taking stock 78 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: with bim Box at Kathleen Hayes on Bloomberg Radio. Labor 79 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: reform labor reform in the European Union. In early June, 80 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: European Central Bank Executive board member ben Wa Korree issued 81 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: a lee for quick adoption of economic reforms throughout Europe. Indeed, 82 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: he said that the Eurozone risks suffering a lost generation 83 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: because of high youth unemployment. Here to tell us more 84 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: about labor markets in Europe is Elaria Masselli, senior economists 85 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: for Europe for the Conference Sports. He's based in Brussels, 86 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: but joins us here in our studio in New York. Hilaria, 87 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: thank you very much for being with us. Thank you 88 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: for inviting me. So set the stage if you can 89 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: describe for people that may not be following what's going 90 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: on in labor reform in the European Union, what is 91 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: or isn't happening, and maybe compare it to some of 92 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: the issues that we face in the United States. Okay, well, 93 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: and he's a question to start here there, you go right, 94 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: just to do it all once, Okay, well, I will 95 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: start perhaps on what I see as the biggest problem 96 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: in the European labor markets. UM, not all of them, 97 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: because let's remember I mean Europe. You know, you can 98 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: show statistics with every for the urala European Union, but 99 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: it's made of very diverse economies within. But notwithstanding the differences, 100 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: I would say that a big problem is the dualization 101 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: of the labor market. I'll explain what I mean. It 102 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: means that there is a generation of works, a portion 103 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: of the workers that enjoy let's say, the full package 104 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: of all the benefits that were negotiated some fifty sixty 105 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: years ago, and then there is UH. And then there 106 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: were a series of labor market reforms that started in 107 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: the nighties in in a lot of European economies, and 108 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: these reforms were called well, we're liberalizing in the labor market, 109 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: but on the margin. And on the margin it means 110 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,279 Speaker 1: that we're introducing all forms of flexible contracts, temporary work 111 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: arrangements and UM, without touching what was there already. So 112 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: you have right now in France, in Italy, in Spain, 113 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: to some extent in Germany, you have a lot of 114 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: workers which enjoy it let's say two thirds or four 115 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: fifths of the workers that enjoy the full package UM, 116 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: and then you have a portion of workers, most likely 117 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: young workers that's uh, that a much weaker position in 118 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: the labor market. So I think all the attempts to 119 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: do reforms should aim at rebalancing this situation. So is 120 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: that similar for example to let's say the US airline 121 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: industry that negotiates contracts and has the pilots that are 122 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: veterans who have been in those positions for many years. 123 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: They enjoy the pay and the benefits of those and 124 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: that new pilots perhaps coming into the company they work 125 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: under a different contract. Yes, and they have the longer 126 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: hours for example of work and UM, much more limitations 127 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: on sickness for example, or maternity leaves UM. So there 128 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: is an unfair distribution of rights, and to some extent 129 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: this distribution is also generational. And this is why UM 130 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: young workers feel really affected by this by the crisis. 131 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: In your analysis, tell us countries in Europe that you 132 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: feel are doing the right thing when it comes to 133 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: labor reform and those that are dragging their feet, Well, 134 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: the model, I would say is the Scandinavian model. UM. 135 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: It's a very interesting equilibrium because um, everyone enjoys UM 136 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of benefits. I mean, the 137 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: Scandinavian welfare system is perhaps the best system in the world. 138 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: At the same time, it's very convenient for companies. There 139 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: are a lot of profitable companies that operate in Copenhagen 140 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: or in Stockholm and UM well, if if there is 141 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: a problem within a labor relationship, they can easily higher 142 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: fire people. And at the same time this is not 143 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: a drama because the system is there to help you. 144 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: And also you're sure that you will find another job 145 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: easily because if you're, for example, your skills are outdated, 146 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: there is a whole system of ACTI labor market policies 147 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: that would really help you to to be trained again 148 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: and then be employable the relatively easily. So in this 149 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: system you have very low unemployment rates, very high employment rates, 150 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: everyone works UM and everyone is happy. It's called flex security. 151 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: Is that something that could have been adopted by the 152 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: United Kingdom. Why didn't David Cameron, the former Prime Minister, 153 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: push for that kind of system. Oh, that's the one 154 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: billion dollar question. Because UM, of course, how generous systems 155 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: are welfare systems are depends on depend on um preferences 156 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: of the people, because a system like the Danish one 157 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: is also an expensive system, which means that people pay 158 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: quite high taxes UM and maybe you know, the same 159 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: system could not be applied in the United States, where 160 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: there is a different preferences. There are different preferences compared 161 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: on this on this domain also there is another challenge. 162 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: So actually one my my my TASiS when I wasn't 163 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: Universe City was on, exported this model to Italy, which 164 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: is my home country, and the bitter conclusion of that 165 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: was that it's not possible because it requires a lot 166 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: of management. You know, every single unemployed worker needs assistance, 167 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: and every single UM employee of a of a local 168 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: local office so that manages active level market policies, needs 169 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: to be trained in order to provide the type of assistance. 170 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: So it's really working on each single person, and not 171 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: every system has that capacity. I want to thank you 172 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: very much for coming and spending time and look forward 173 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: to having you again on the program in the future. 174 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: Larry Maseli is Senior Economist for Europe the Conference Board 175 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: based in Brussels, speaking about labor market reform in Europe. 176 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: You're listening to taking Stock. I'm pim Fox and this 177 00:10:49,800 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg coming up on taking Stock. Weaker earnings, higher multiples. Strategists, 178 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: pundits and bears. They say they can predict the market. 179 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: Will find out more from Jonathan Golob of RBC Capital 180 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: Markets