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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the show, Ladies and gentlemen. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 1: my name is Ben. You are you that makes this

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Speaker 1: stuff they don't want you to know. Our compatriot Knoll

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Speaker 1: is away from the moment, but never fear he will return.

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Speaker 1: And meanwhile, we are joined by our super producer, Tristan

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Speaker 1: big Red McNeil, Big Red McNeil. That's right, he's hanging out.

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Speaker 1: Oh he gave us an approving nod. He did. Oh

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Speaker 1: he's he's your tepid about it? Okay, all right, it's

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Speaker 1: like a sideways thumb Little Red. Maybe. I don't think

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Speaker 1: anybody wants to be called little Red, little though little Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What about young Red? Yeah? Yep, that's it. That's the one. Uh. Well,

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Speaker 1: this nickname that we are assigning is not just out

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Speaker 1: of the blue or out of the red, as you

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Speaker 1: would say. In this case, it pertains to this episode

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Speaker 1: in in a weird, foreshadowy way. So, Matt, you drive, right,

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Speaker 1: I do all the time, drive most most days. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: almost every single day and you are driving on inner

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Speaker 1: If you've ever been on the road like Matt and

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Speaker 1: I and Tristan I assume, and Noel, then you've seen

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Speaker 1: trucks or other vehicles hauling has matt or hazardous materials.

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Speaker 1: These could anything from toxic chemicals used in manufacturing two

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Speaker 1: explosives are just really messed up waste. In most countries,

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Speaker 1: the transport and storage of this stuff is extensively regulated

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Speaker 1: And in the United States, for example, the FEDS, the government,

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Speaker 1: the old Big g it divides these hazardous materials into

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Speaker 1: several different categories nine to be exact. You'll find explosives, gases,

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Speaker 1: flammable and combustible liquids. Those are all kind of lumped

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Speaker 1: sign that you've seen. The old is that the skull

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Speaker 1: it's kind of pushed together into a you know, this

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Speaker 1: list miscellaneous generally dangerous, which that could be so many

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Speaker 1: those middle schools science teachers really need that sodium to

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Speaker 1: Think of the children. So there's a organization here in

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Speaker 1: Since the late nineteen eighties, intelligence agencies and criminal organizations

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Speaker 1: caps in O any have that have some sort of

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00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: partial red mercury property can be the actual red mercury,

426
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: and that hasn't stopped people from having theories and and

427
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: uh describing it. So we can tell you a little

428
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: bit about what the Soviets thought it was used for. Yeah. Back,

429
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: according to quote Soviet sources, this red mercury had a

430
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: street name called mercuric stypik heptoxid, which is a fun

431
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: thing to say. This stuff is super conductive and allegedly

432
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: it's used to produce high precision conventional and nuclear bomb explosives.

433
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: It could also make stealth surfaces, which is you know

434
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: that kind of cool, uh, and also to make self

435
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: guided warheads. And let's let's just reiterate that conventional and

436
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: nuclear bombs, stealth surfaces, self guided warhead. Man, that's a

437
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: lot of things that this stuff can do. Those are

438
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: also three very different things, right, And the properties that

439
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: read mercury is typically assigned are some of the most

440
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: common parts of the description of this substance. It's what

441
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: is called ballow technic, which is just that, you know,

442
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: a fancy way of saying it produces immense pressure when ignited. However,

443
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: when combined with other claims about red mercury's capabilities, it

444
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: sounds more and more like a work of science fiction.

445
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: With an emphasis on fiction too good to be true. Right, So,

446
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: in addition to releasing massive pressure, this stuff is also

447
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: strongly insensitive to shock or fire. That strongly resistant is

448
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: a better way to say it. So, you know, you

449
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: could substitute red and stimpy, you could substitute you could

450
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: take the log song and the syllables don't work out.

451
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: But if you put red mercury in there, you know,

452
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: you can do all that stuff with red mercury and

453
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: it still wouldn't explode. But despite this durability, it apparently

454
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 1: has a very fast ignition rate that seems contradictory. It

455
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: does doesn't end again, extremely high energy density. It's very

456
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: difficult to identify a class of substances that has all

457
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: of these qualities. Sort of a silver bullet Holy Grail situation.

458
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: And that we should say that that none of us

459
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: on this team are chemist by trade, and we're neither physicists. Yeah,

460
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: we might be physicist by hobby, but wait, are you

461
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: a physicist? I mean, I'm interested in it. I'll read

462
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: a book about physics. I definitely um deal with physics

463
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: on a second delie basis. I mean, I'm not, you know,

464
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: planning to hunt black holes anytime soon. You know, I

465
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: don't get in internet arguments with Stephen Hawkins yet, and

466
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: he's probably brutal. I don't know he'll let you have it. Yeah,

467
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: but you know, I think he's got a good heart. Absolutely,

468
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: he's he's got a good heart. There. Here's something else.

469
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: Remember we mentioned the nuclear physicist speaking of physicist Frank

470
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: Barnaby earlier. Uh. He worked at the Atomic Weapons Establishment

471
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties, and he claims that there are

472
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: evidence the show VICH turned out vast quantities of mercury

473
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: antimony oxided, the intermediate and equally elusive compound from which

474
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: red mercury is supposedly produced by placing it inside a

475
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: nuclear reactor. There's no doubt they made a large amount

476
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: of that stuff. I've talked to chemists who have eliged

477
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: the niche to Germany. But what they get with it?

478
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: He says, he's a mystery. Oh I like this guy.

479
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: Let's bring him back for some things. So what are

480
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: people saying about this stuff? Man? So some people think

481
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: that the intermediate compound, the one that Frank there is

482
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: kind of discussing, could actually multiply the yield of an explosion.

483
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: So if you if you take this and use it

484
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: inside a conventional let's say a nuclear warhead or rocket

485
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: or something, it would work as a fuel additive, which

486
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, that's interesting that that you could use that,

487
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: I guess for that purpose, just to just to increase

488
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: the yield. I guess that's the idea, you make it stronger.

489
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: And others say, the compound was I radiated at the

490
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: core of a nuclear reactor to produce pure red mercury,

491
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: and this stuff would be capable of exploding with enough

492
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: heat and pressure to act as a trigger inside a

493
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: brief case sized fusion bomb. So your red mercury in

494
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: this case would just be the thing that makes the

495
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: reaction occur, right right, the instigator in the crowd of

496
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: nuclear reactions. There are massive problems with this stuff though, Yeah,

497
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: all right, First the story changes. Often reports a red

498
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: mercury don't seem to be consistent and in any substantive

499
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: way other than this stuff is powerful bad guys wanted.

500
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: According to experts like Barnaby, even if the substance was discovered,

501
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be that useful. And according to experts like Barnaby,

502
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: the guy we keep talking about, even if this stuff

503
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: was real, it really wouldn't be that useful. And we

504
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: have another quote for terrorists, it would offer no significant

505
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: advantages over an ordinary high explosive or if they wanted

506
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: a dirty bomb a radioactive source to go to. The

507
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: trouble of spending huge amounts of money on red mercury

508
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: makes no sense at all, makes no sense at all.

509
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with Barnaby more if he's right. If

510
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: he's right, and according to official sources, nobody has actually

511
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: real facts obtained this substance. So could this be a

512
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: cover up? If so, what kind is it? One of

513
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: those things where one or two, maybe even five governments

514
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: officially know that this stuff exists and what it can do.

515
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: They have the documentation, they know how to make it,

516
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: but they want to suppress that knowledge. I mean, I

517
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: could see that as being a possibility. Here's another odd

518
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: fact that a spokesman for the International Atomic Energy Authority

519
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 1: said red mercury doesn't exist. The whole thing is a

520
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: bunch of malarkey. Oh wow, so he's saying it's a

521
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: lepre con is that slaying? Is that? You know? I mean,

522
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 1: I'm just the malarkey took me to lepric, I'm not. Yeah, okay,

523
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, you're hipper than I am. So

524
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. If like LEPrecon was like the new

525
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: thing you say, now it can be do you and

526
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: your friends when you hang out at the are you

527
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: are like, what up LEPrecon? Yeah, it's more like an

528
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: exclamation if something is tremendously cool and if green is

529
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: involved whatsoever? Oh okay, okay, like, man, that is so

530
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: leprechn You know, I don't want to steal your your bit.

531
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try it, maybe see what works out, and

532
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: if it if it goes well, I'll tell people that,

533
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: you know, I'll credit you. And it goes poorly, I'll

534
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: take the fall. I like it better than some of

535
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: the current new slang words, like what combustible? Yeah, combustible, man, combustible.

536
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, but that's the thing. Oh fleek, Oh fleek.

537
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: You don't care for fleek. I can't fleek, man. I

538
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: just don't like the way it rolls off the tongue.

539
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: It's a little bit smoother than LEPrecon. I'm just saying

540
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: that as your friends. Well, that's why I like Leprichn

541
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: because it takes a little more effort. Uh, and you

542
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: know there's a there's a guy with gold. But just

543
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 1: like red mercury, is the effort worth it Also also,

544
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: unless we get too far off the rails, I don't

545
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: want to bury the lead here. An official spokesperson for

546
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: the International Atomic Energy Authority said, this stuff doesn't exist.

547
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: It never existed. What we'll be back afterward from a

548
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: responsible and we're back. So what we're left with here, people,

549
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: there are two roads that we can go down. Red

550
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: mercury is either a long running propaganda sting operation on

551
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: behalf of intelligence agencies, or it's this ancient relic of

552
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 1: the Cold War when tensions were so high and rumors

553
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: were everywhere. Yeah, that's the thing. We do have a

554
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: couple of different paths. So let's look at the idea

555
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: that this whole thing was a shaggy dog story that

556
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: for decades, not just the US, not just Russia, but

557
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: multiple other countries including South Africa, made up a boogeyman

558
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: to catch terrorists or criminal organizations or likely each other.

559
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: We have, you know, we have some indications experts who

560
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: searched for real red mercury, like Peter Zimmerman, found the

561
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: story quickly deteriorated and that uh, everything about his search

562
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: led him to conclude this was a disinformation campaign of

563
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: phony news articles planned decades ago by the KGB and

564
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: then by its successor, the FSB. And there are other

565
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: variants in the story, including one where Washington and Moscow

566
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: worked together, you know, circulating these stories to flush out

567
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: nuclear smugglers. And the thing with that is this idea

568
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: of these two ostensibly enemy governments cooperating this way is

569
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: really popular with a lot of soldiers and officers and

570
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: bomb disposal and counter WMD weapons mass destruction jobs. But

571
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 1: Zimmerman felt like he couldn't prove it. He felt like

572
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: he could definitely prove whatever this stuff is it's not real,

573
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: or it's a fishing expedition as a way to draw

574
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: people to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is incredibly clever.

575
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta admire the art in some things,

576
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: even if you don't agree with the idea, just because

577
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: these rumors have been so persistent throughout the years, and

578
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: it's still this that we can have a story in

579
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: where people, somebody somewhere in authority said, oh, Red Mercury, okay,

580
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 1: shut that thing down, shut it all down. It could

581
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: also be UM. Here's here's a different idea, maybe a

582
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: middle ground force here. It could also be a code

583
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: name for some other type of nuclear industry related material, right.

584
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: It could have been a Soviet code name for something else,

585
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: like lithium six, which was a controlled material that was

586
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 1: actually used in nuclear weapons. And maybe traffickers repurposed the

587
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: label for whatever irradiated crap they were trying to sell

588
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: to UH unsuspecting terrorists, because if you read the accounts

589
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: of people, even isis the terrorist organization. If you read

590
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: the accounts of people trying to purchase this stuff, the

591
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: way that it's explained to them when they finally find

592
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: it and buy it at enormously expensive isis by the way.

593
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: One one great example would be UH when it was

594
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: described as a small box that had to be carried

595
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: in a special container and had to be opened in

596
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: a special way with a special device. These are sold separately,

597
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: I assume UM and could never be opened because when

598
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: it did, everything would blow up in like a multikilometer radius.

599
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,959
Speaker 1: Hold on, I thought this thing was super stable. Well

600
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: that's what you know. You gotta have the device sold separately.

601
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: But that's that's also that snacks of classic of a

602
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: classic con job, because yeah, if you can't look at

603
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: the merchandise, but you're going to hand some money over

604
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 1: or something arrested? What's that old? What's that old? Saying

605
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: a pig in a poke? Is that just something they

606
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: say in Tennessee. I don't like that, never mind. It's like,

607
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 1: don't don't buy a pig in a bag unless you

608
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: look in the bag. It's you're given a poke first, like,

609
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: make sure it's squeals, you know, I gotta check. I

610
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: gotta check before we sign off on that as official

611
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: stuff that I'll want you to know. Pig buying advice

612
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: sounds good. Sounds If you happen to run into somebody

613
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: who has a burlap sack and they tell you there's

614
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: a pig in there and they'll sell it to you,

615
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: just I mean, what are you doing anyway? Don't engage

616
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: with that person. Yeah, just leave it alone, man. Pig

617
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: bag man is going to be fine. You can leave

618
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: can leave him to his own devices, as long as

619
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: they are not nuclear. And now we get to the

620
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: scariest possibility of all ladies and gentlemen, Red Mercury, What

621
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 1: if this thing is real? But somehow it's been continually

622
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: over the decades suppressed. Right, this is I'm gonna go

623
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: ahead and say this is the most disturbing as as

624
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: you said earlier, but it's it's also, thankfully one would hope,

625
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: the least plausible. But think about it's been in all

626
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: these news stories over and over in the decades. It's

627
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 1: never been verified. When law enforcement is attempted to acquire

628
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 1: this stuff, it has in every single case you can find,

629
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: turned out to be something else according to the story. Yeah,

630
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: these are not the nuclear devices you're looking for. It's

631
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: we're both doing that Star Wars droid wave. I feel

632
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: like we need to explain that. You know the what

633
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: we're talking about late, it's the force. You're using the

634
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: force to coerce somebody. You see the force. Yeah, and

635
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: it's Uh. It turns out that most experts believe red

636
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Speaker 1: Mercury is about as real as the Force. So, regardless

637
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: of how you feel about Star Wars, regardless of what

638
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: conclusions you draw about red Mercury, regardless whether it is

639
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: in fact real or if it is in fact an

640
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: elaborate sting operation that people are still falling for, one

641
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: chilling fact remains people are dying as a result, actual

642
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: people are actually dying because one rumor that's spread. We

643
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: talked about the one in Saudi Arabia, kind of funny

644
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: sewing machine tycoons, right, love it, love it. But in

645
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: Afghanistan it was a little different because rumors spread that

646
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: land mines contained red mercury, and numerous people died going

647
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: up to these live minds and attempting to dismantle them

648
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: and extract the stuff that they thought was in there.

649
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: When dismantling a live mind is as you may assume

650
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: a job for the experts, which, yeah, but isn't it

651
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: Isn't it weird? Because I had no idea that this existed.

652
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: This is such a strange thing to do. I am persuaded.

653
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, sure this does not exist, and full of

654
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: you know what, iffory, Yeah, exactly, that's I I hate

655
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: to agree completely with you on this, just because I

656
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: want to offer a different opinion. But everything that I've

657
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: seen in the research that we've done for this leads

658
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: me to believe that it's not real. But it's hard

659
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: for me to wrap my head around it lasting this long,

660
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: a rumor persisting this long, and then what if Yeah, like,

661
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: what for lack of a better phrase, fueled this rumor

662
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: for so long, Right, what if there is some sort

663
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: of powerful substance capable of jump starting a fusion reaction,

664
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: and it's so dangerous that when people discovered it, they

665
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: including including Dr Cohen, when they discovered it, they said, Okay,

666
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: everybody needs to shut it down. We know that we like,

667
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: we know we don't get along all the time, but

668
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: we'd like we look forward to not getting along for

669
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: a long long time. And if anybody has this, it's

670
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: the end. Imagine the implications if one of these small

671
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: nuclear devices goes off in a city anywhere in the world,

672
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: and the reaction of other countries, right with all who

673
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: also have nuclear devices, who are going to be trying

674
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: to point the finger, and there's that it's only a

675
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: few what is it, a few seconds when some of

676
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: the nuclear systems in the world, some of the dead

677
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: hand stuff, when some of that can be triggered. Ah, yeah,

678
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: the dead hands system is very very dangerous thing. Uh. Well,

679
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: you know that's and that was a Soviet thing and

680
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: it's I'm assuming still a Russian. Uh. And then the

681
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: United States, who knows what kind of systems that we

682
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: have with all the all the minutemen that exist around, uh,

683
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: around the globe. Now, the spooky thing about the way

684
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: the US handles it's nuclear arsenal is that a large

685
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: percentage of it is continually traveling around the globe. Yeah,

686
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: which is spooky stuff, spooky, frightening, semi apocalyptic stuff. And

687
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter at that point who set off

688
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: a bomb, you know, right, because in in the early

689
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: part of it, at least whatever reaction occurs is going

690
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: to be before you can you know, confirm who it is.

691
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: And a lot of our listeners who have lived through

692
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: the Cold War time period, you know, you've probably seen

693
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: those accounts that came out years later of how close

694
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: the entire species got to just call in it one

695
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 1: long night, And we'd like to hear what you think

696
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: about red mercury? Has this ever popped up in your

697
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: in your leck of the woods? Has anybody ever been

698
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: on the news for attempting to smuggle red mercuries? You

699
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: might try to sell you some, Yeah, And did have

700
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: you seen any other pop references to this? I couldn't

701
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: recall if in Call of Duty or any of these

702
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: other games that I've played it, like showed its face somewhere.

703
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: I can't I couldn't remember. I just you know, I

704
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm baffled still because neither explanation is particularly iron clad,

705
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It sounds crazy to say

706
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: that there's some real substance that is enormously powerful that

707
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: has just been continually popping up in the news and

708
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: then being removed. But it also sounds crazy for to

709
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: be this elaborate. Like we've said it before on the

710
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: show Rube goldberg S hoax. It's like that game mouse trap,

711
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You could just arrest people,

712
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 1: but maybe it's I'm still divided, man, because maybe it's

713
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: safer to have a thing that you know is an

714
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: inert substance, right, You can just get something that has

715
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: a red pigment to it, and then it seems like

716
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: that's obviously red mercury. So like maybe these intelligence agencies

717
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: just took a page from shady drug dealers. Do people

718
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: do that? People are out there selling paprika as red mercury?

719
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, because no one knows what it looks like.

720
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: But yeah, we want to we want to hear from you.

721
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: We want to hear which of these sides you tend

722
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: to fall on. And if you think this is nicely

723
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: an incident, you know this kind of subterfuge, or if

724
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: there are other examples and speaking emails from you, it's

725
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: time for chat at Corners. Our first message comes from

726
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: Andrew Allenson. He says, I'm writing to let you guys

727
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,720
Speaker 1: know how influential you've been to me and my team

728
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: for the past two years. I'm not asking you to

729
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: plug my project or anything like that. I just wanted

730
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: to let you know that it exists and to give

731
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: you a little backstory. Now we're gonna say the name

732
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: of the game. We are not outright plugging Allen's game.

733
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: We are telling you about his game. Is that clear, Allen?

734
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: So you don't feel weird. This is We're going to continue.

735
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm working on a game called Why two k Now?

736
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: That is Why one one K Dash, a postmodern RPG.

737
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: It's about a bunch of conspiracy theorists in the ninet

738
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: nineties searching for a woman who mysteriously vanished in an

739
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 1: elevator that sounds familiar, Ben mh. The game revolves around

740
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: a primitive, early nine nineties occult mess sage board that's

741
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: kind of cool and the various threads lead to different

742
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 1: quests in the game. I've been a fan of reading

743
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: about weird things happening since I was a child, and

744
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: came across your podcast and YouTube channel when I was

745
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 1: looking for some ideas to fill out the various threads

746
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: in the game's forum. Your podcasts and reactions to conspiracies

747
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 1: were invaluable to getting into the minds of the forum

748
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: users and making the world feel real. So I just

749
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 1: wanted to say thank you for what you're doing and

750
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 1: keep up the good work. Well that is supremely cool. Alan. Uh.

751
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: You know that Ben and I are both gamers as

752
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: well as Noel. Noel talks about that a lot, and

753
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: Uh knowing that somehow what we've done has worked its

754
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 1: way into a virtual world makes me personally tremendously happy.

755
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 1: So let us know how the game goes. We'd love

756
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: to hear an update, yes please. Our next one comes

757
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: from our next shout out rather comes from Crystal K,

758
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: who says Plumb Island is an animal disease research facility,

759
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: at least according to Silence of the Lambs. This would

760
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: certainly account for any perceived air of secrecy about the

761
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: place Also, Clarisse was the one who suggested she could

762
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: arrange for lectors vacation to the island in exchange for

763
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: identifying Buffalo Bill. Thank you so much, Crystal. You know,

764
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 1: I'm I don't remember if we mentioned this on the air,

765
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: but do you know that Anthony Hopkins do you know

766
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: how how much he's actually in Silence of the Lambs

767
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: the original Signs of the Lambs as Hannibal Lector? Is

768
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: it like a percentage he's it's like fourteen minutes the

769
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: whole film. He really made an impression. Huh. I mean

770
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: those are the kind of roles you wanna live for,

771
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: you know, do a cool, creepy fourteen minute cameo. Yeah,

772
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: who happens to be a cannibal? It's like, who's the

773
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: most important character in Waiting for Good Dough? The guy

774
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: who doesn't show up or RoboCop or RoboCop. I'm pretty

775
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: sure RoboCop shows up in robot I was just trying

776
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: to figure out, trying to figure out who the most

777
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: important character is if not RoboCop. But listeners, you have

778
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 1: to help me out. I don't know. There's a French

779
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: play called tartoof and for the which I remember reading

780
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: years ago and for the first easily two thirds of it,

781
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: people are talking about this tartoof dude and he doesn't

782
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: show up until the end. It was, it was baffled.

783
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: He kind of lives up to the hype, but not really.

784
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: It's it was sort of the RoboCop of its time.

785
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: I get it, you know. We I don't know if

786
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: we can keep doing these jokes. Last one of us

787
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: goes back and watches robo cop oll No problem. I'm

788
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: not gonna take the fall. I'm gonna do it. And

789
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: if you, if you write to us, I'll confirm or

790
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: or deny whatever you say a RoboCop expert, I'll We

791
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: have time for one more shout out. Our next message

792
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: says I am me, you are you, and this is

793
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: an email to stuff they don't want you to know. Well,

794
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: of course I love that opening. Yeah, I love the show. Guys.

795
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: You help you help keep me sane whilst at work

796
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: with the stuff you should know boys. Oh cool, that's

797
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: a good company. Um. Now down to business. Vaping you

798
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 1: heard of it, Yes, we have heard of it. Vaping

799
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: is a smoking cessation. It's a way for smokers to

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00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: get off the cigarettes in a healthy and safe way.

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00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: In a basic form, it gives the user the sensation

802
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: of smoking, the nicotine delivery from smoking, but it leaves

803
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: out the seven thousand plus nasty chemicals and carcinogen's smoking

804
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: cigarettes delivers into your body. Vaping has turned into an international,

805
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: multibillion dollar industry, creating thousands of jobs and businesses. It's

806
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: created friendships and families throughout the world. Okay, yeah uh,

807
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: and above all else, it's saved hundreds of millions of lives.

808
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: But ben, here's where things get crazy. Currently, at this

809
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 1: moment in time, that's right, whilst you are reading this email,

810
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: the US government and f d A are trying to

811
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: destroy it. And I don't mean trying to get the

812
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: booming industry that is vaping under control. I mean these

813
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: guys want to wipe out the whole thing, one hundred

814
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: percent gone in the blink of an eye. They want

815
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: it gone, and they're trying anything to do it. And

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00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: they oh, man, oh my gosh. Okay, so Jack, this

817
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: is from Jack. By the way, do we ever say

818
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,280
Speaker 1: this is from Jack? Okay, okay, Jack, thank you for writing.

819
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: And he goes on and he just he gives us

820
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:38,439
Speaker 1: so much great information about vaping along with his fun storytelling.

821
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: But we're gonna end it right here. So why is

822
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: the US government so against vaping if it is a

823
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: health benefit to the millions of citizens and the billions

824
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: of people worldwide. Is it because it's dangerous and will

825
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: kill people quicker than a bullet to the head, or

826
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: would you say it's because the cigarette companies who sponsor

827
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: these state officials and senators and government organizations are losing

828
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: millions of dollars worth of revenue each week two people

829
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: not smoking. No, that can't be. People would think that's

830
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:16,240
Speaker 1: some sort of crazy conspiracy. Jack, that's that is fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for writing in, Jack, Crystal and Andrew.

832
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: Uh that that's a good point about vapory. Yeah, yeah,

833
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: I mean there are so many conflicting studies that have

834
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: been coming out over the past five years. Yeah, vaping

835
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: is uh pretty interesting, you know, yeah it is. And

836
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: you I've heard a lot of people talk about how

837
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: it has helped them quit smoking or at least been

838
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: a part of quitting smoking, right right, And then, uh,

839
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the rumors about va being

840
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: the science behind them evaporates after I'm so sorry, After

841
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm not really sorry. I'm inordinately proud of every stupid

842
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: pun I've ever made beautiful, but you a lot of

843
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: the science is still contradictory in various studies, funds of

844
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: conflicting stuff, and just like the stuff with sugar, we

845
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: have to ask ourselves who is funding whom when these

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