WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Feeding Zeke? 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:08.840 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:20.239 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:20.640 --> 0:00:24.040 screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:36.639 Star in Friscoola. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brovis, Rob Phillips, 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:42.720 and Bill Jones. And it is a fantastic Friday edition 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.960 of Talking Cowboys. As we get you said, for another 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:51.760 frolicking football weekend, mister a literation. She gonna be careful 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:55.920 of those, by the way, she's ah. Yes. It kicked 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:59.240 off last night with Thursday Night football. It continues tonight 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:02.600 with high school football. We got college football tomorrow. We 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:07.120 got the Cowboys on the Redskin Sunday at noon Dallas time. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:12.080 And who's making the trip? Those two Rob Phillips, Mickey 0:01:12.120 --> 0:01:15.720 Spagnola making the trip, Not me anything special on your 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:20.119 trip to DC. I'm planning to be a tourist if 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.400 I can get over there and do it, if my 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.360 back cooperates, and do some do some sightsee. And that's 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.560 my plan. What do you want to go see? Everything? Everything, 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:32.720 everything related to this great country? Yes, so you want 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:34.920 to walk down the I want to do the landmarks, 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:36.600 the mall, yeah, I want to do all that stuff. 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:38.679 Have you never done that before? I've never done it. Oh, 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:40.920 come on, seriously. I mean we did a little bit 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.039 on the trip last year with the team, but I 0:01:44.040 --> 0:01:45.840 saw the Lincoln Monument, but I want to see We'll 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.600 see more. That's my plan. I like to win the team. 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:54.800 Good football. Yeah, well obviously that too. Yeah good football, yeah, yeah, 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:59.120 some some good football. But it is great to renew 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.720 the rivalry, which hasn't been as much of a rivalry 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.680 the last twenty years. But it's still the red Skins. 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:08.480 And in Washington they say it's Cowboys week, and here 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.400 we say it's red Skins just for team. Though they can't. 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:13.200 They don't. They don't want to start oh and two 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.240 in the division, you know, and oh yes, not just 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.520 in two period, right into the division, you know, in 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.560 FedEx Field. Mickey has written a book on the great 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.480 history of this rivalry and yeah, this is probably his place, 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:29.880 is not RFK, but it's it's got the weirdness to it, 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.519 you know, it's got the weird field of games. It's 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:36.720 got the the the bouncing of balls and injured players 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:40.120 playing great and you know, and guys, uh, you know, 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.400 unfortunate calls in a game that kind of turn it 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.000 one way or another, and you know, so, yeah, I 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:50.160 think this is going to be difficult. The Cowboys a 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:54.440 better team, yes, they're absolutely a better team, but just 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:58.160 with desperation week two. And this just goes back to 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.160 my days of being on the personnel side. You know, 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.399 those teams are oh and one. You will do anything 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:07.359 in your power to make that thing one and one. 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.960 And now you're talking about, oh wait, we we've got 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:11.360 to make sure that we're not O and two in 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.440 the division with you know, the way things are, I mean, 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.840 that could put you in an early hole, especially with 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.280 the way this division tends to be. Like Rob likes 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.919 to say, one game, you know, it could come down 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.960 to one game, and yeah, Dallas goes and finds a 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.400 way to get a victory there at that that crazy 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:31.040 place called FedEx. That puts them in a good spot, 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:33.640 you know. Now, you know with the Dolphins coming to town, 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:35.560 and then you got the games with New Orleans and 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:37.840 so you take them one at a time, as coaches 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.440 like to say, But this this is important really for 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.200 both teams if you want to look at it that way. 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:47.360 Ye shot doesn't always hold up out there. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.640 and I'm you know, you look at this roster for 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.720 Washington and I don't say Cowboys have the better team 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:55.480 on paper. They do, my opinion, they do. Yeah, I 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.280 think everybody feels that way. But they've got some talent 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.840 on both sides of the ball. They have some weapons, 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.800 some young guys. You know, we talked about McLaren this week. 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.480 On offense, We've talked about their defensive line. They have 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.640 guys that can give you problems. And then you factor 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:10.000 in having to go up there and deal with that 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.840 crowd noise. That's I'm interested to see how this offense 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.960 responds in a hostile environment. Gonna be awesome. The good 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.040 thing about it, though, is there's a lot of fans 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.120 Cowboy fans in that area. I know when I used 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:21.840 to make when I used to make the trips, I'll 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.280 never forget that how loud it was when Romo threw 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:28.880 that fourth down pass to Murray that won that game. 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.279 You know, he was playing with the busted back and 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:34.080 all that stuff. So the fan base there does a 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.360 nice job of fighting the redskin fans who could be 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.719 pretty pretty pretty vocal in the you know, but you 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.280 got to give them a Washington Redskins have got to 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:44.880 give them a reason to play. I mean, they've got 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:46.680 to get a reason for those fans to get involved, 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.559 because the Cowboys will do a good job of getting 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.240 their guys home. But yeah, it's just a difficult place 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:53.919 to play. The grass. Some the officials, you have to 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.760 play them sometimes, you know, again, desperation, There's so many 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.880 things that factor into already a week two games. I'm 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:02.719 one of these guys, and I'm sorry this is the 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.160 way I am. I see every game as being must win. 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.080 That's just me because i know at the end of 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:09.080 the day, I'm either going to have enough or I'm 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.160 not gonna have enough. So you got to go out 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:14.040 there and play like it's you know. And the Redskins, 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.440 I think are they see it as already as we 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.200 can't fall down to this thing. Look at like Carolina 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:22.159 last night after that game, all the interviews with you know, 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.400 the players were just you know, Cam Newton and McCaffrey, 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.200 they're all just distraught that you know, they're oh and 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.800 two and both their losses have been at home, you know, 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.240 and now you're now you're thinking of having to dig out, 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.520 you know, and the quarterback. He's playing like he's playing 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.240 right now exactly exactly so that you know, I don't 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.440 think Washington wants to feel that. And you know, Dallas, 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.480 like I said, Dallas is a better football team than 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.159 the Washington Redskins if you just went player for player. 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:50.520 But it's gonna be up to them to go out 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:52.520 there and play like they were a better ten. It 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:55.320 is still, as Mickey knows because he's covered this team 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.159 a long time, it's the biggest game of the year 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:00.760 for the fans that aren't on the Cowboys side. Oh yeah, 0:06:00.839 --> 0:06:04.360 it's it's it's a huge week. Cowboys Week is bigger 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.680 up there than the Redskins Week is down here. There's 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.880 no Redskins Week here, and that's true, but it's Cowboys 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.159 Week up there. Believe me, I'm glad you brought up 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.799 the romo to Murray. I mean, that was one loudest 0:06:15.880 --> 0:06:18.320 whatever I mean on a visiting stadium. I couldn't believe 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.000 how loud that was. Because we think of the great 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:25.080 moments and from the Cowboys perspective in this rivalry, going 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.279 back to Clint longleyand Thanksgiving Day. D Roger in his 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.440 last regular season game in seventy nine, The Great Comeback 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:36.560 thirty five, thirty four. I love the Joeth Eisman Birthday 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.600 game at Texas Stadium where the Cowboys blew him out 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.920 in the season opener. Uh Nate Newton was talking about 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:45.680 the game in the early nineties when the Redskins had 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:47.560 the best team in the league. Sure, and they go 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:50.160 in there and the on side kick and the Cowboys 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:54.080 hit him in the mouth. And the Cowboys didn't have 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:57.000 the best team on paper that year, but they won 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:01.159 on that day. But that Romo game, I mean, it 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.000 goes right up there with one of the greatest performances 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:08.800 in this rivalry. Oh no, there's no question. Yeah, I 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:12.240 mean him he could barely I mean, if you remember, 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.680 I think that was set up by a throw to 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:18.920 Terrence Williams down the sidelines that they busted coverage on. So, 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.680 I mean, there's so many big plays in the history, 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.400 but it's gonna take big plays to win this game 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:26.520 on Sunday. You know. That's the one thing that the 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.560 Cowboys have shown, at least through Week one, is they're 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.360 capable of making those big plays. They could put a 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:35.600 lot of pressure on Greg Manuski in this defense. They 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:39.160 if they if Manuski has that's the That's the thing 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.520 about dealing with the Cowboys now is if you do 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:45.280 make a mistake, a ten twelve yard pass turns into 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.120 a sixty yard play. You know you have that kind 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:51.720 of ability and you have a quarterback that's understanding what's 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:53.840 going on, and then you're gonna get this running back. 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.040 You know he knows. Okay, now it's time for me. 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.680 I'm seeing I'm seeing all these guys do things. Now 0:07:58.720 --> 0:08:00.680 it's time for me and no week two. Hey, let's 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:02.720 get me going here. You know he knows what he 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:04.960 has to do. Yeah. I wrote about during the week 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.560 that the top three wide receivers on this team were 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.840 in the top thirty or whatever among receivers and yards 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.040 after catch in that game. And I wonder if that's 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:14.760 going to turn into a trend because they got three 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.400 guys they can really do something with the football after 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.320 they get it. Now, on the flip side, how much 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:24.720 can this defense tighten up from last week? Because Washington 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.480 has guys that can beat you too. And case Keenum 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:32.840 narrowly missed McLaurin again. Deep he would we talk about 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.080 Dak four oh five, he would have been well over 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:38.360 four hundred with probably another touchdown had he had he 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.880 connected deep in that second half. Well case, Keena, if 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.280 we remember a couple of years ago, maybe three years 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.840 two years ago, led a Minnesota Viking team to the 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:50.840 NFC Championship game. You know, so, yeah, it's a good quarterback. 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:52.480 You know, he has a good quarterback. I think you 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:54.760 have to be very mindful of him as a player 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.560 and he's not going to make mistakes. That's kind of 0:08:57.559 --> 0:08:59.839 where you know, you we talked about with Smith last 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.040 year what he was able to do, and you know 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:05.400 how he just kind of down the same type of guy, 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.319 not gonna take a bunch of sacks. If he does 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.560 get hit, he's gonna get up, he's gonna throw a 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:11.800 three quarters side arm. He's gonna throw it around you. 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:13.839 He's gonna move around in the pocket a little bit. 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.160 So yeah, you have to And if they get that 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:20.160 running game going, you know, if Dallas has problems stopping 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.120 the run, then this game could be very close, very tight, 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.560 and then it's anybody's game if it's that. If that's 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.280 the case, because then you have to say, okay, well 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.560 they need to block Ryan Carrigan. Now, I do like 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:31.520 the matchup with the Cowboys, and I've got my pick 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.560 to click when we get to that. But you know, 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:36.040 I like some of the matchups on the defensive side 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:38.000 of the ball for the Cowboys. If it turns into 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.440 a game where they where the Redskins have to throw 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:44.040 the football consistently to come back in this game, and 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.200 the Redskins a week ago, you know, they get up 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.120 seventeen nothing in that game and they never established the 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.959 run against the Eagles. Left guys had eighteen yards on 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:56.839 ten Carreys and I think Thompson was three for ten, right, 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:00.440 and you know they didn't even apparently didn't even try to. 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.520 It was too late. And once they lost Jonathan Allen 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:06.800 on defense, that's when that's when the Eagles took full 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.439 advantage of what was going on with that front. They 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.000 did not have the depth that the Cowboys have along 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.880 that defensive line. And that's gonna be that's gonna be 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.320 the big issue for them is how are they going 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.440 to replace Jonathan Allen in this game. I have a 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.640 feeling that Tim Settle is going to go outside there, 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:24.800 but they're gonna have to rotate a lot of guys 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:26.880 through there. But that is a big, big, loss for 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:29.000 those guys to have to deal with, and good for 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.080 the Cowboys if it's in fact, Okay, got to find 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.080 a way to kind of run the football a little 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.240 bit or at least establish some balance to how they're 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.360 going to play. And basically the guys they have up 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:41.000 front now that Allen is out, then who's a former 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.800 first round draft pick is another Alabama first round pick 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.319 and Ron Payne. But good playing you get fifth rounders. 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.800 But matt Ionidas has played well. He is he's he's 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:53.120 a He's their version of Tyron Crawford. If I say that, 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:55.480 I mean that is he is a He's a guy 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.720 that could kind of play a couple different spots. He's 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:01.040 never gonna flash at you with a lot of pass rush. 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:03.679 He's really a powerful guy. He plays square, he's very 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.160 good against the run, and he tends to play a 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.240 little high then people can take advantage of, but he 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.199 does and he plays with knee ben and he's along 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:12.480 the line of scrimmage. So yeah, they're gonna have to 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:14.360 They're gonna have to come out here, and if they're 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.280 they're gonna have to be physical with this this Washington 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.439 offensive line. If they want to get Ezekiel l a 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:22.840 going well and then along those lines, I'm just looking 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.040 at the coaches film a little bit from last week. Yeah, 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.800 that fifth round linebacker Cole Holcomb. Yeah yeah, I wrote 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.400 about him as my under the radar guy this week. Yeah, 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.080 he is a guy that if you watched him play 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.360 at North Carolina, he's got four or five speed legits, 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.320 got a vander Ash look to a money very long. 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.040 He could run, and he and when he has a 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.600 feel for how to shoot gaps. So if you don't 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:47.200 get second level hats on him, he'll run through or 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.280 he'll run backside to chase plays. That's what he did 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.840 at North Carolina. Now, he could be a little too 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:56.400 aggressive too. You'll see him sometimes go too far and 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.960 then and then get washed on the play and then 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:01.600 go that way. So yeah, it's a that's how you 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:03.120 have to kind of you get You gotta make sure 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.400 you get hats on on him the way. He had 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.880 a really good kind of an emergency starter last week, 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.240 but showed some really good things for these guys. And 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:13.920 as as we dive, we just by happenstance started diving 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:18.400 into the redskin defense here that Montes sweat Wow, one 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:21.960 of my favorite players. I'm surprised the Raiders didn't take 0:12:22.080 --> 0:12:24.120 him with the you know, I know they took the 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:27.440 kid from Clemson the fourth overall. Sweat to me would 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.120 have been a better pick right there. And I was 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.760 really surprised that he lasted to I believe seventeen. And 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:34.959 you'll see it on the Jason Garrett Show, probably posted 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.160 on Dallas Cowboys dot com. He breaks down Will McClay 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:44.040 breaks down the edge rushers, both Kerrigan and Montes. And 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:46.200 I asked, I asked him about Sweat and I had 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:48.960 forgotten this, and you're well aware of it. He had. 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.559 Was it a heart issue? Start issuing the kid? Yeah, 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.199 and that's why he slid until late first run. Yeah. 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:56.439 It wasn't like the kid from Michigan that went in 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.880 the fifth round to the Raiders that this was one 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.480 that everybody kind of you know, they kind of got 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.680 a handle on real early in here, all right, And 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.400 I didn't really and maybe because of the heart issue whatever, 0:13:06.440 --> 0:13:08.120 I didn't really look at him. I don't have time 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:10.640 like you do. You can go into these draft prospects. 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:12.800 And so I saw him for the basically for the 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.800 first time yesterday, and I went whoa look at this guy. Yeah, 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.400 and Will was breaking it down the first My first 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.480 reaction on him was, look at the long arms on 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:22.199 that guy he is and he and Will said, yeah, 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:25.880 they're thirty five six. Yeah, every every every thing that 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:27.680 he had to go through when he went through his 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.600 senior year at Mississippi State, to the Senior Bowl, to 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:34.120 the Combine to getting drafted, all that, there was an 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:37.360 improvement in everything that he did along the way. I mean, 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:40.520 he was impressive Mississippi State, he got the Senior Bowl, 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.520 was clearly one of the best players on the field. 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:45.800 And then you look at what he's what he was 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:47.480 able to do in the draft, get the draft, and 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:50.320 then now with the Redskins, and so I was shocked 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.360 that he lasted the stuff too. But you're you're saying 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.640 there was a medical condition. You're absolutely right about that. 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:57.199 But yeah, you have to be ready for him, and 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.400 he's got that that the length you talked about with 0:14:00.440 --> 0:14:02.600 that edge rush, and you know, Dak is very well 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:08.920 aware of him. He's watched him playing college after this one. Yeah, 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.520 he's still got some dudes up front, even without Jonathan Allen. 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:14.040 But I know, try Micky, you were talking about the 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.840 fan this morning that they got to get Zeke going. 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.680 You think he's ready for more of a load. I do, 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:24.280 and I can tell the way Jason answered the question today. Yeah, 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:27.960 I mean, he didn't dive into it, but thirty seven 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.240 snaps in the game is better than any practice you 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:35.120 ever get. So uh, he and I don't. I don't 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.400 think he's on a pitch count anymore. I don't think 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.920 go with him, yeah, and let him go. Six practices 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.760 and thirty seven snaps in a game. There's no holding 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:47.320 back now, Okay, So then what kind of what kind 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:49.200 of playing time does Pollard? How are you gonna use 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.280 Pollard if you're gonna if you're gonna go ahead and 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:54.240 give Zeke the full dose? I mean, because that was 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.720 those were thirty seven snaps in three quarters for Zeke. 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.160 He didn't play in the fourth quarter, and so if 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.120 that was a close game, he would have been over 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.720 fifty snaps in that game. Well, Pollard got yeah, And 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.080 so I thought the twenty some right, right, And so 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.240 it's going to be interesting as we go along how 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.960 Pollard has used. But I thought the way they used 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:17.920 Pollard was effective and and I don't know that it 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.640 will for the first three quarters of that game, that 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:24.760 it won't be that much different really, twenty two snaps 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.800 and and what they're gonna do is go back to 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:30.080 the original plan before Zeke had to hold out. The 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:33.520 idea was to incorporate him in the offense, give him 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.200 a series here, or maybe just a play here or 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:38.880 play there, and then get him involved in the passing 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.000 game because he's a complimentary guy, right he. I mean, 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.000 you can pretty much line him up anywhere, and he 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.800 probably can do if and it doesn't look like Tavon's 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.880 playing right, he's still he's out Cush protocol, so he's out. 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:54.280 So maybe Pollard picks up some of that. In the offense, 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.480 he can go in the slot. That's what their idea 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.320 was to use him. So from a mental standpoint, for 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.320 a rookie in his second NFL game, how big? How 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:05.200 big is it putting extra stuff like playing him in 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.240 the slot on no on his plate? Young Bill Walsh 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:12.000 will get him involved. I wouldn't be surprised if Young 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:14.800 Bill Walsh will get him involved. I wouldn't be surprised 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:18.280 if we see him that, you know, I wouldn't. I 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.040 wouldn't be surprised to see them in the backfield together. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:24.280 You know, you you come up with create. The thing 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:26.560 about Kellen Moore is he was totally on board when 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.640 they drafted. It wasn't like a cell job to him 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.880 from Gary Brown and Phillip Tanner and those guys. It 0:16:32.960 --> 0:16:35.760 was like, hey, we've got a We've got a guy 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:39.240 that can do a lot of different things. So find 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:43.840 ways to incorporate both those guys. You know there's opportunities there. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:45.880 I mean, you have to be creative. He comes up 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.080 with wrinkles. You know, we could see them both play. 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:50.880 But yeah, Mickey's right. You know the original plan is 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.920 run Zeke, run Zeke, and then if you need that changeup, 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.560 go ahead and put him in there. Because he practiced 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:58.400 all through train cap you should not be worried if 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.520 you you evaluated him during training camp and he had 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.920 a full load to begin with because he was really 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:06.600 the only one out there that was playing. So and 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:08.880 then week to week you have a package for him 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:10.960 and so from a mental standpoint, he can handle it 0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.359 because you're not overloading him with a bunch of stuff. 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.000 It's just what's in the game. What's in the game 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:17.720 play from week to week? Right, think about when they 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:19.720 had Dunbar here. I mean it was like it was 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:21.960 a package like you mentioned. But this guy's a little 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.000 different because I think he can actually he can be 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:26.560 a between the tackles guy. In addition to I like 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.000 what I saw from him between the tackles last week. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:30.919 I mean he had sort of a zeke look to him. 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:32.960 You know. Sometimes I was I was like, which one's 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:34.760 in the game right there? You know, and the numbers 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.000 weren't there. No, but you're also trying to kind of 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:38.960 wind the clock out. The giants know what you're trying 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.160 to do. There were no holes there. 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Our pregame show starts eleven am. 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.880 Better start at about ten? Yeah, breakfast, better get going. 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:30.000 You should have done your pregame show. We're outside, we're outside? Yeah, 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:32.080 what do you are? You? We are No, I'll be 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.200 I mean studio CBS eleven and then we have Danny 0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:39.160 White and Keith Russell live at the stadium and that's 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:41.480 at ten thirty. You're you start at what time we started? 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.119 We started eleven, Okay, so you could watch Cowboy if 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.280 I think we're on after I think we're oh yeah 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:49.280 on A twenty one. Yeah exactly, Okay, we're hopefully we're 0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.399 doing We're doing which we now called Texas twenty one. 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:56.359 Danny was pretty good last week for his Fish one. Yeah. Yeah, 0:20:56.400 --> 0:21:00.240 here's well, since we mentioned Danny, I was doing little 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:05.000 bit of research on Jay Gruden, Will McClay Danny White. 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:08.440 Where am I going with that? Jay Gruden, Will McClay 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:12.440 Danny White. Okay, Danny White went to school Arizona State. 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:16.000 Will McClay went to Rice. Not that indoor football. It's 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:24.160 the Arizona Rattlers, Arena football and Utah and well yeah, 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:25.920 in oh six he became the head coach of the 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:28.439 Utah Ways. Okay, I got to get these teams. Okay. 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:33.159 Will was the Dallas Desperados, Jay Gruden was the Orlando Predators. 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.840 Will played for the Detroit Drive one Championships there yea, 0:21:37.000 --> 0:21:41.080 and then they played Orlando. The Desperadoes did for the 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:44.560 championship game. I think it was well. Danny White did 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.920 a heck of a job with the Arizona Yeah, okay, 0:21:46.960 --> 0:21:49.679 I've done the research on it. In fact, Jay Gruden, 0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:52.760 of course was a player in the In fact, he 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:56.080 was an MVP of the league for the Tampa Bay Storm. 0:21:56.119 --> 0:21:59.359 Back stories. Okay, Tim Markham I think was head coach 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:02.520 then okay, and so well, there's a connection with the 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:07.000 coaches here. Of course, Garrett played for the San Antonio 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:10.040 franchise in the World League of American Football. Was part 0:22:10.040 --> 0:22:12.879 of that. Jay Gruden was with the Barcelona Dragons in 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:17.320 ninety one with Jack mcnell. Okay, and then Gruden started 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:20.920 playing for the Arena Football League Tampa Bay Storm in 0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:23.479 in nineteen ninety one. He was in the league MVP. 0:22:23.680 --> 0:22:27.240 They won four titles with him as the quarterback that team. 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:29.520 He was the quarterback of the team, all right, But 0:22:29.680 --> 0:22:33.199 take it before that and Will McClay, as Rob mentioned, 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:38.360 he played for the Detroit Drive. They won three Arena 0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:42.399 Football titles three Arena Bowls in eighty nine, ninety and 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:47.320 ninety two. Jay Gruden was on Arena Bowl champions in 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:52.000 ninety one, ninety three, ninety five, and ninety six, Danny 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:55.120 White coach the Arizona Rattlers to the Arena Bowl title 0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:58.960 in ninety four and ninety seven. There is a stretch 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:02.680 from nineteen eighty nine to two thousand and four where 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:06.359 one of those three Will McClay, Jay Gruden or Danny White, 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:09.520 we're in the championship game in one of those three 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:13.840 one ten straight titles from nineteen eighty nine to nineteen 0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:19.480 ninety Arena Royalty. I actually got Jake's playing decks contract 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:21.840 to us. I got Jay Gruden on the phone like 0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:24.600 ten years ago, fifteen years ago now to talk about 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:28.720 McLay and because they're buddies. Yeah, and they were arrivals, yeah, 0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:30.960 and just they were just oh they he's just ribbing 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:34.439 each other. I mean, yes, hilarious, hilarious. And both the 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:38.040 Jay Gruden and Danny White are in the Arena Football 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:43.359 League Hall of Fame located where uh, let's say, Tampa, 0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:47.320 I'm gonna get you don't look that upland yeah, look 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.320 that up Arena Ball Hall of Fame. You know, but 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:55.639 it says a lot about you know, might have a 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:59.480 hall of Fame without a building. Yeah, Yeah, Arina Ball 0:23:59.480 --> 0:24:01.480 has been going for a long time now. That Dave 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:04.439 Baker bail down him. Yeah, yeah, that's right to go 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:08.439 to the Hall of Fame himself. Commission. He looks like 0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:11.440 Babe Ruth. No, he's not lying. He's larger than life. 0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:19.840 So was his head. He does have a buckethead. He does. Okay, man, 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.880 he's not He's a big man. Yeah, yep. In fact, 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:25.879 I remember I remember interviewing him during arena football and 0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:30.160 You're amazing how big his head was. I was amazed, 0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.600 how bigger the human being has a big man. That 0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:35.680 might have been one of Rob's first assignments here. What 0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:38.480 was that covering arena ball, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, 0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:41.080 I said, did yeah, were you doing the sideline reporting 0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:45.120 for the game? Ry table, I was doing it. I did. 0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:49.399 I did a radio and we did TV. I did TV, 0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:52.280 did the game and did we have rocket? We had 0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:55.359 rocket rocket ismail speaking of as we bring it back 0:24:55.400 --> 0:25:01.280 to Cowboys is here Cowboys. Rockey Rock was the analyst 0:25:01.320 --> 0:25:03.359 on what and it's the It was the first arena 0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:06.960 football game he had ever seen. It's so rocket. It 0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.560 was like every whenever a play, any play was made, 0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:11.200 which was any play at the game. There's a play 0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:14.040 made every single play. I mean it's like a touchdown here, 0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:19.080 a touchdown there. And his commentary was strictly wow wow Yeah. 0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:22.159 So were you doing the game the time we were 0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:25.680 sitting basically we were located in the stands. They're they're 0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:30.360 hating you right now in periscope right next to the game, Charlotte. Yeah, 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:33.600 I think so. Yeah, Okay, anyway, that's enough arena talk. 0:25:33.680 --> 0:25:39.520 But yeah, yeah, he found it, found it all right, 0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:42.400 let's open up the phone lines and so you can 0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:47.600 Yeah eight eight five five two two nine seven. So 0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:50.399 you're on periscope there and you got anything on. They're 0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:52.720 bitching about the fact that we get off topic every 0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.240 once in a while. Yeah, but it related to the game. Yeah, 0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:58.439 there we go. Yeah, YEA one is in the Arena 0:25:58.560 --> 0:26:01.280 Football Hall of Fame. By the way, he is to 0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:05.080 go in here. I've already said that, welcome member Glands 0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:08.920 And where's the building there? Kayden, Oh, that's going to 0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:12.600 take another third of us. But how about well, speaking 0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.760 of I didn't we weren't speaking of hot seats, but 0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:16.879 I was thinking of hot seats and Ron Rivera. But 0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.080 now being on the hot seat in Carolina, how about 0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:22.840 Jay Bruten, Jake Grutin. He has all this arena football experience, 0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:25.359 and then he was an offensive coordinator for the Cincinnati 0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:28.440 Bengals for three years and got this head coaching job. 0:26:29.000 --> 0:26:32.359 So they haven't had a whole lot of success in 0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:34.800 Washington with him as the head coach. No, and that's 0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:37.280 why again, I think this game is really really important 0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.840 that they you know, you don't want to find him. 0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.399 He doesn't want to find himself losing a team. You know, 0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:44.800 they go down oh and two, and then I think 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.200 they have the Bears the following week. You know, I mean, 0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:49.800 it doesn't get any easier for any of these teams. 0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:51.639 You got to find a way to win these games 0:26:51.640 --> 0:26:54.119 and stuff. So nobody in the league feels sorry for 0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:57.520 anybody though. I mean, trust me, they don't feel sorry 0:26:57.600 --> 0:27:00.680 for you know, Carolina and guy. I don't feel sorry 0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:04.240 for Washington or anybody else in this league. So, uh, yeah, 0:27:04.240 --> 0:27:06.720 it's it's but it's he is. He's under he's under 0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:08.480 some pressure, but they've given him a lot of time 0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:11.560 to try and haven't given him a quarterback. They no, 0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:13.920 well they had Alex Smith and yeah, you know, well 0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:16.719 he did a nice job for them, but they drafted 0:27:16.720 --> 0:27:19.119 a quarterback this year though, the kid they drafted, the 0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:21.280 kid they're just not They're just not ready to play. 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.000 I mean, Dwayne Haskins this isn't ready to play it, 0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:25.679 and Gruden might not. I mean it might get to 0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:27.040 the middle of the season where all of a sudden, 0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:29.119 next time we played them, it might be Dwayne Haskins 0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:32.119 played for the last game of the season. Yeah. Pretty 0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:34.399 good Yeah, pretty good chance Dwayne Haskins is going to 0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:36.320 be the quarterback for the Redskins in the last game 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.520 of the season. All right, periscope actually coming through here. 0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:42.320 What's more important here, uh, fixing the run defense or 0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:46.040 getting to their quarterback question they have. Well, if you 0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:47.959 don't fix the run defense, you ain't gonna get through 0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:50.560 the quarterback. Yeah, I think that pretty simple. Guys on 0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:53.040 defense will tell you that everything starts with the run. 0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.360 I looked it up. I think we said Adrian Peterson 0:27:55.359 --> 0:27:57.240 went over one hundred yards last year. He had ninety 0:27:57.320 --> 0:27:59.679 nine and it took him a lot of carries, but 0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:02.320 he really hard in the game and kept them kind 0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:05.800 of balanced on offense. So that's going to be a challenge. 0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:08.959 But I would say I would say up front, stopping 0:28:08.960 --> 0:28:11.080 the run and Christoph Shard spoke to the media yesterday 0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.040 and just said it's just all about being discipline or 0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:16.720 gaps basically. I mean nothing, no secret sauce. They're just 0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:20.199 getting back to what they do and we'll see if 0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:22.879 they can clean it up. Yeah, it'll probably helped that. 0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.960 Crawford and Lawrence will play more. I said half the 0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:29.480 game it was it was sixty two snaps combined from 0:28:29.520 --> 0:28:32.359 this two and you've got to think both will You know, 0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.399 Crawford had a good day yesterday, so I think that 0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:36.560 looks good for him Sunday to try to up the 0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.120 workload a little bit. You gotta think Tank will have 0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.520 more than thirty two snaps. I mean there were sixty 0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.960 nine snaps. I believe the opponent's win ran last week, 0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.960 so you know, a normal dose for him would be 0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:51.880 around forty five to fifty. And now that he's healthy, 0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:54.240 you know, they were holding him back last year because 0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:57.960 of the shoulder. They knew he was limited. So both 0:28:58.000 --> 0:28:59.840 of those guys, if you know, if they're ready to go, 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:03.480 let's go. Um, but they better stop the run because 0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:06.560 if you're not stopping the run, then you're going to 0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:10.480 be so conscious of play fakes. And you're you're gonna 0:29:10.480 --> 0:29:12.400 get killed. Well, and all you have to do is 0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:14.920 look at that game last night and what Tampa Bay 0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:19.360 did to Carolina stopping the run. I believe Tampa Carolina 0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:22.240 had nineteen carries for thirty nine yards in this game 0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:25.080 and McCaffrey went over two hundred yards total offense a 0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:28.680 week ago and they had they were all over cam Well, 0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:32.240 let's go to speaking of that. Scott in Pasadena here 0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:36.719 on talking Cowboys. Hello Scott, good morning Bill. It's Lynn Scott. 0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:41.160 How are you guys, Lynn Scott, Yeah, former former defensive back. 0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.240 There was there was Lynn Scott. Right, you was pretty good? 0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:50.720 Pretty good play Pasadena, Texas or California? Thank you? Good 0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.240 morning ye where the suitors will be tomorrow night to 0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:56.160 take on the UCLA Bruins and Chip Kelly go ahead, 0:29:57.000 --> 0:30:01.920 you would bring that. Thank you one for your support. 0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:04.600 I've been working on my California teaching credential and I 0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:06.640 get up early in the morning study and then use 0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:09.120 your show. It's my break. There you go. Ja Ja 0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:13.880 received my clear credentials this week, so thank you. Um. 0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:16.320 I want to tell you I looked at take from 0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:20.640 the last two games we played, Watchington last year. Yeah, 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:24.360 Game two went so well for us, and it looks 0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.280 like we had two war daddies. One on defense Randy 0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:31.880 Gregory just dominated and on offense Samarti Cooper. Now, I 0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.520 was just wondering who you think our war daddies will 0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:38.840 be on offense and defense Sunday. Thanks, that's kind of 0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:42.360 getting click click Yeah for sure. Oh you gotta wait 0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:48.200 another half hour for that, No, another ten minutes. Yeah, 0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:50.080 I want to show now you know what we could do? 0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:53.360 Pick the CLI why not? You know what? Can I 0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:55.600 start first? Inst I'm gonna pick. Some of you guys 0:30:55.640 --> 0:30:57.720 aren't gonna pick because I'm I'm gonna go with Tyron 0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:00.400 Crawford in this game. I think it. And I asked 0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:03.120 the question that Jason Garrett about Donald Penn, and I 0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.959 think that Donald Penn is had a great has had 0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:10.120 a great career, and I think there's a replacement to 0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:13.920 Trent Williams. He's been okay. But the longer that Donald 0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:16.840 Penn has to block, the harder it is for him 0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:20.240 to maintain that leverage and maintain his ability to stay 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.080 with this guy to sustain and I and you and you. 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.920 These are the types of games where Crawford. He's gonna 0:31:26.040 --> 0:31:28.280 he's gonna win with He's gonna win with power, He's 0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:31.480 gonna win with some agility. He's going to win with effort. 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.360 You know, this is a Donald pen not holding up 0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:36.440 very well and then all of a sudden, if it 0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.360 turns into them throwing the football. I could see Crawford 0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:41.760 being a factor in this game, rushing the pastor at 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.000 Donald Penn, anybody on that left side. If you play 0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:46.680 with effort, if you stay after it, you play with 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:50.080 the intensity, Donald Penn can be broken down. And I 0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.680 think that's gonna be a good matchup for the Cowboys, 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.520 not only on the run, but also when when they 0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:58.680 stop to throw the football. Keep an eye on him, Crawford. Okay, 0:31:58.960 --> 0:32:02.440 all right? Tyrone offered the pick to click. I'm gonna 0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:06.200 go to the offensive line for Dallas and Brian wrote 0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.160 about Connor Williams this week. I got my eye on 0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:12.960 him in this game because we talked all offseason about 0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:15.800 how he's added strength and bulk, and this is the 0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:17.560 type of matchup where he's got to show it off 0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:19.479 against iron pain in the middle of the line. So 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:21.960 i'm i'm I think if he can have a big 0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:25.120 day and control that. Then this offense has a chance 0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:28.320 to spite the environment and a pretty good defensive line 0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:30.520 for Washington. They got a chance to do some things 0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.480 again offensively that they want to do. We're staying on 0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:39.640 defense or offense, wherever you want to go. Pick. I'm 0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:43.560 I am ready to see Zeke explode. I think that 0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:47.080 he's ready to go. They're gonna ride him. And I 0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:50.760 think Washington will be so worried about the passing game that, 0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.640 as Michael Irvin pointed out this week, and go ahead 0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.840 and pick your poison. And I think that they're gonna 0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:01.360 pick the most. Uh, They're gonna the most recent thing 0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:04.040 the Cowboys did, which was throw the ball. So I 0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.640 think they might get a clean box to be able 0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:10.760 to run and watch out for Zeke. I'm gonna go 0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:15.360 with Layton vander Esch making some plays and also being 0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:19.800 a key in the run defense. Yeah, and you're gonna 0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:23.000 need it. You're gonna need guys getting off blocks. Seriously, 0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:26.000 this is gonna if the Washington does have success, it's 0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:28.200 because Dallas didn't do a very good job of playing 0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:30.600 with their hands and getting off blocks. I'm just you know, 0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.240 because you know there's there's there were some games like 0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.680 the game last year that was played there at fed 0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:39.920 X where Peterson had some just clear shot runt holes, 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:42.760 you know, where guys were hats on hats and now 0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:45.320 he's taking it up inside and you know, Lawrence is 0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:47.520 having to chase in the backside to go make this play. 0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.480 But it's eighteen yards down the field. So yeah, I 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.120 better find a way to play at their hands, get 0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:54.640 off blocks, beat some blocks, and get in position to 0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:58.440 get some tackles in this game. And another item along 0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:02.360 those lines they line up. If Cowboys line up MALIEK. 0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:05.680 Collins on Eric Flowers, that's a that's a good just 0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:08.920 looking at him on this roster because we talked him 0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:10.839 all camp about the type of camp he had. This 0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:12.880 is an opportunity to matchup for him. We'll see what 0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:14.480 he can do with. Yeah, Flowers doesn't have to play 0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:17.200 in space anymore. That's why now playing it guard, he 0:34:17.200 --> 0:34:20.000 has a little bit more of a little bit better chance. 0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.879 But you're right, the quickness, the power if you if 0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:25.319 you want to walk him, you can walk him, but 0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:27.279 you get under him and go because he does not 0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.600 have power. I think he'll have. I think Flowers will 0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:32.920 have a lot of difficulty with that. He's on that 0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:35.759 left side over there with with Donald Penn. So if 0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.040 if it's coming from that left side or that actually 0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:40.960 the Cowboys right side, right, you'll know why for sure. 0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:44.920 Yeah yeah. So and then last week, I mean a 0:34:45.000 --> 0:34:48.400 good matchup was Fletcher Cox versus Brandon Shurf. But you 0:34:48.400 --> 0:34:50.440 know that get off that Cox has. 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That's kind of what 0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.960 everyone wants to leave. They all requested trade multiple guys that, 0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:25.600 according to report, the first game he started at corner 0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:27.800 last year for him, he's played safety for him the 0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:30.480 summer he's played, he played linebacker. In this last game, 0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:33.160 they were really overall, they were just really bad as 0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.120 a team on defense. The Ravens did a really nice 0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:40.080 job of attacking them with Lamar Jackson. But yeah, I 0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:42.759 reached out to some people this morning. They said, hey, listen, 0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:45.200 we just can't comment about people that are under contract. 0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:48.239 We haven't heard anything from them. So I mean people 0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.719 are saying, oh, it's reported he's seeking to trade well, 0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:56.160 until the team, until the team, the Dolphins initiate trade talks, 0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:58.440 you have to be real careful about that. So that's 0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:00.160 kind of what I know right now about that. Where 0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:02.759 does he fit in? Well, yeah, that's what I was. 0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:05.120 He could play nickel corner, he could play corner, he 0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.560 could play safety, he could play a lot of different spots. 0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:11.120 So he's gonna come in here and start. He could 0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:16.560 if you did something with if you moved on from Well, 0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:19.960 he would be insurance. He would be insurance for at 0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.080 least you could start him at safety if you wanted to, 0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.760 if you wanted to compete him against Jeff Heath, because 0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.080 him and Woods would be a pretty good match together. 0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:30.000 You could use him if something happens next year again 0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:32.839 with Brown and being gone and Jones being gone, So 0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.160 it kind of buy it. He's got like three years 0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:38.279 left and then a fifth year option. So yeah, he's 0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:40.719 kind of and he's very very inexpensive. He's like one 0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:44.319 point two million dollars for him, so and he's a 0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:46.160 really good football player, but he's just in a bad 0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:48.840 situation right now with the Dolphins. A lot of players 0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:51.719 are in bad situations there. What do we read into 0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:56.399 the tweet from Taco yesterday the waiting game with an hourglass. Yeah, 0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:59.240 he thinks he's gonna get moved on or released or something. 0:39:59.320 --> 0:40:01.120 If I said I said it on the show earlier 0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:02.879 in the week. If he's a healthy scratch this week, 0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:05.640 they need to move on from him. That's just how 0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:07.799 I feel. I mean, you don't no sense of just 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.640 continuing on this way, you man, that's just you know, 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:12.600 don't have a discriminal player in your locker room if 0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:14.640 you if you can help it, or you're gonna have 0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:18.160 to make a roster move next week. Robert quinn quah. 0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:21.560 Right now, you might get an exemption for him for 0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:23.920 a few days of practice, but if he's ready to go, 0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:29.080 then yeah, you need a roster exemption. And I mean, well, 0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:31.319 they got another three on the roster right now, by 0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.040 the way, and I was kind of under the impression 0:40:33.080 --> 0:40:37.200 they didn't, but they signed. They signed, they just didn't 0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.279 announce it. They signed Covin. They got fifty three on 0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:42.120 the roster. I was thinking, okay, you know, and Jason 0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:43.960 Garrett was talking to us about, no, we haven't done 0:40:43.960 --> 0:40:47.000 anything with Covington yet. But they signed Covington, he's on 0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:50.360 the roster. So if they want to get Cedric Wilson 0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:52.239 on the roster, they are going to have to make 0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.239 a move to today or tomorrow by three o'clock right 0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:58.359 to get that done, or you grit your teeth. Yeah. Well, 0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:01.000 the other thing on Taco is the team. The other 0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:04.680 teams know that Quinn's coming back after this week, and 0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:08.279 so if you're talking trade with another team, sure you 0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:10.080 know they're sitting there going, oh, let's let's wait and 0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:11.719 see what you do with them after you when you're 0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.040 have to make a decision there, you're going to get 0:41:14.040 --> 0:41:18.680 a twelfth pack. Yeah. Bob in Tennessee, you're up next 0:41:18.719 --> 0:41:24.640 on Talking Cowboys. Hello, Bob, Hey, guys, how are you doing? Great? Good? Hey, 0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:28.160 Mick big fan in a Cowboys fan since nineteen sixty nine, 0:41:28.160 --> 0:41:33.440 So I used to Dallas Cowboys Weekly and read all 0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:35.680 the articles. So I really enjoy your show. Thanks, But 0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:41.880 this question is for Brian Okayan laughing, Let's go ahead. 0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:46.439 I'm sorry. Oh that's okay. Yeah, So, in your evaluation 0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:50.200 as a former scout, and I'm thinking about Tristan Hill, 0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:53.279 I'm thinking about Tacol Charlton. Sure, as a scout, when 0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:57.120 you're evaluating these players, obviously you're looking at the physical 0:41:57.120 --> 0:42:00.480 attributes and all that. Do the scouts talk to coaches 0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:05.320 about the attitudes and things of that? So what happens 0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.320 when we if we draft players maybe like a Taco 0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:12.600 Charlton or someone else whose attitude isn't maybe what the 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.600 coach described it to be, do we as scouts or 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.520 do you as scouts look at that and say, you 0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:20.680 know what, that coach has lost all credibility because I 0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:23.680 wonder sometimes, Oh no, you're absolutely That's why you talk 0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.520 to the equipment men, the trainers. Those are the people 0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:28.839 that deal with him every day. You know, you you 0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:31.560 you know, you go in there and listen, Rod Miranelli 0:42:31.680 --> 0:42:34.680 lived with Tristan Hill, basically lived with him. You know 0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.440 this this this spring, and they you know, they did 0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:40.879 their due diligence too on on Taco as well. Now, 0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:44.080 if if people are telling you that they're they're now 0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:46.239 I'll give you an example. I will give you a 0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:51.399 We had a goodwin the corner that we drafted from 0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:55.319 Tennessee back in the day that that was they got 0:42:55.320 --> 0:43:01.480 put in jail and I remember Everywoch, not Goodrich, Dwayne Goodrich. 0:43:01.560 --> 0:43:05.320 We drafted Dwayne Goodridge. Henry Schroka went to the University 0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:09.000 of Tennessee and got every bit of information you could 0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:11.400 get about him. He said, he wasn't tough, he didn't 0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:14.480 like the lift waits, you know, he didn't work hard, 0:43:14.760 --> 0:43:16.919 and we still draft the guy. You know. I mean, 0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:20.880 you get all this information and you still but because 0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:25.000 you're listening to a coach from that program tell you, oh, no, 0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:29.040 he's tough, he works hard, he does this. Henry Schroka 0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:32.960 had every bit of information about Dwayne Goodridge as far 0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:36.440 as a player goes. And you know, and so you 0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:40.600 get that information. How you choose to use it is 0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:42.840 on you. It's on the front off. As a scout, 0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:45.680 you can only say, Hey, this is what my guys 0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:47.600 are telling me. This is what my guys telling me 0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:50.239 about Quincy Carter. This is what my guys telling me 0:43:50.320 --> 0:43:54.879 about Taco Charlton. I mean, so, yeah, credibility. You know 0:43:55.120 --> 0:43:57.160 who to talk to and who not to talk to 0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:01.080 when it comes to these types of situations. Clude Hill 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:04.160 in there. I don't think Hill's a problem, No, I 0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:09.439 think he's talking more maybe talking about that's not why 0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:13.000 he's inactive, right, no, right, no, right, And that's not 0:44:13.120 --> 0:44:17.239 why Taco's inactive either. By the way, I want to 0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:21.439 enlighten us why well he hadn't they don't think he's 0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.880 playing well. Okay, I think it's pretty obvious. You can 0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:27.280 have a bad attitude, but if you're a bad attitude 0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.719 and not playing well, then you're probably be getting on 0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:33.000 the field. From the Mickey Spagnola Eyeball tests thirty practices 0:44:33.040 --> 0:44:36.360 in four preseason games. As he played better, he played better, 0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:39.360 but I don't know that it was every down. I 0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:42.640 don't know how consistent he was. But again, the guys 0:44:42.680 --> 0:44:46.719 that took us place didn't exactly have stellar performances exactly right, 0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:49.760 And we're about to find out what kind of stellar 0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:54.200 performance they have this week noon Sunday, catch Brian at 0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:56.799 eleven a m be out there in the plaza, in 0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:59.160 the plaza and you can be a part of it too, 0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:01.560 the watching part on the plaza here at the Star 0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:05.480 and we'll talk at you again on Monday. This has 0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.320 been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:10.080 Dallas Cowboys Football Club.