1 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 1: Star in Friscoola. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brovis, Rob Phillips, 5 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: and Bill Jones. And it is a fantastic Friday edition 6 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: of Talking Cowboys. As we get you said, for another 7 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: frolicking football weekend, mister a literation. She gonna be careful 8 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: of those, by the way, she's ah. Yes. It kicked 9 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: off last night with Thursday Night football. It continues tonight 10 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: with high school football. We got college football tomorrow. We 11 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: got the Cowboys on the Redskin Sunday at noon Dallas time. 12 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: And who's making the trip? Those two Rob Phillips, Mickey 13 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: Spagnola making the trip, Not me anything special on your 14 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: trip to DC. I'm planning to be a tourist if 15 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: I can get over there and do it, if my 16 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: back cooperates, and do some do some sightsee. And that's 17 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: my plan. What do you want to go see? Everything? Everything, 18 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: everything related to this great country? Yes, so you want 19 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: to walk down the I want to do the landmarks, 20 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: the mall, yeah, I want to do all that stuff. 21 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: Have you never done that before? I've never done it. Oh, 22 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: come on, seriously. I mean we did a little bit 23 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: on the trip last year with the team, but I 24 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: saw the Lincoln Monument, but I want to see We'll 25 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: see more. That's my plan. I like to win the team. 26 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: Good football. Yeah, well obviously that too. Yeah good football, yeah, yeah, 27 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: some some good football. But it is great to renew 28 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: the rivalry, which hasn't been as much of a rivalry 29 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: the last twenty years. But it's still the red Skins. 30 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: And in Washington they say it's Cowboys week, and here 31 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: we say it's red Skins just for team. Though they can't. 32 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: They don't. They don't want to start oh and two 33 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: in the division, you know, and oh yes, not just 34 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: in two period, right into the division, you know, in 35 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: FedEx Field. Mickey has written a book on the great 36 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: history of this rivalry and yeah, this is probably his place, 37 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: is not RFK, but it's it's got the weirdness to it, 38 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 1: you know, it's got the weird field of games. It's 39 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: got the the the bouncing of balls and injured players 40 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: playing great and you know, and guys, uh, you know, 41 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: unfortunate calls in a game that kind of turn it 42 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: one way or another, and you know, so, yeah, I 43 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: think this is going to be difficult. The Cowboys a 44 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: better team, yes, they're absolutely a better team, but just 45 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: with desperation week two. And this just goes back to 46 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: my days of being on the personnel side. You know, 47 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: those teams are oh and one. You will do anything 48 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: in your power to make that thing one and one. 49 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: And now you're talking about, oh wait, we we've got 50 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: to make sure that we're not O and two in 51 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: the division with you know, the way things are, I mean, 52 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: that could put you in an early hole, especially with 53 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: the way this division tends to be. Like Rob likes 54 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: to say, one game, you know, it could come down 55 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: to one game, and yeah, Dallas goes and finds a 56 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: way to get a victory there at that that crazy 57 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: place called FedEx. That puts them in a good spot, 58 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: you know. Now, you know with the Dolphins coming to town, 59 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: and then you got the games with New Orleans and 60 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: so you take them one at a time, as coaches 61 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: like to say, But this this is important really for 62 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: both teams if you want to look at it that way. 63 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: Ye shot doesn't always hold up out there. Yeah, yeah, 64 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: and I'm you know, you look at this roster for 65 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: Washington and I don't say Cowboys have the better team 66 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: on paper. They do, my opinion, they do. Yeah, I 67 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: think everybody feels that way. But they've got some talent 68 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. They have some weapons, 69 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: some young guys. You know, we talked about McLaren this week. 70 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: On offense, We've talked about their defensive line. They have 71 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: guys that can give you problems. And then you factor 72 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: in having to go up there and deal with that 73 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: crowd noise. That's I'm interested to see how this offense 74 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: responds in a hostile environment. Gonna be awesome. The good 75 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: thing about it, though, is there's a lot of fans 76 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: Cowboy fans in that area. I know when I used 77 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: to make when I used to make the trips, I'll 78 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: never forget that how loud it was when Romo threw 79 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: that fourth down pass to Murray that won that game. 80 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: You know, he was playing with the busted back and 81 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: all that stuff. So the fan base there does a 82 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: nice job of fighting the redskin fans who could be 83 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: pretty pretty pretty vocal in the you know, but you 84 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: got to give them a Washington Redskins have got to 85 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: give them a reason to play. I mean, they've got 86 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: to get a reason for those fans to get involved, 87 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 1: because the Cowboys will do a good job of getting 88 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: their guys home. But yeah, it's just a difficult place 89 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: to play. The grass. Some the officials, you have to 90 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: play them sometimes, you know, again, desperation, There's so many 91 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: things that factor into already a week two games. I'm 92 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: one of these guys, and I'm sorry this is the 93 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: way I am. I see every game as being must win. 94 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: That's just me because i know at the end of 95 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: the day, I'm either going to have enough or I'm 96 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: not gonna have enough. So you got to go out 97 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: there and play like it's you know. And the Redskins, 98 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: I think are they see it as already as we 99 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: can't fall down to this thing. Look at like Carolina 100 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: last night after that game, all the interviews with you know, 101 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: the players were just you know, Cam Newton and McCaffrey, 102 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: they're all just distraught that you know, they're oh and 103 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: two and both their losses have been at home, you know, 104 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: and now you're now you're thinking of having to dig out, 105 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, and the quarterback. He's playing like he's playing 106 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: right now exactly exactly so that you know, I don't 107 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: think Washington wants to feel that. And you know, Dallas, 108 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: like I said, Dallas is a better football team than 109 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins if you just went player for player. 110 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be up to them to go out 111 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: there and play like they were a better ten. It 112 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: is still, as Mickey knows because he's covered this team 113 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: a long time, it's the biggest game of the year 114 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: for the fans that aren't on the Cowboys side. Oh yeah, 115 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a huge week. Cowboys Week is bigger 116 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: up there than the Redskins Week is down here. There's 117 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: no Redskins Week here, and that's true, but it's Cowboys 118 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: Week up there. Believe me, I'm glad you brought up 119 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: the romo to Murray. I mean, that was one loudest 120 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: whatever I mean on a visiting stadium. I couldn't believe 121 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: how loud that was. Because we think of the great 122 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: moments and from the Cowboys perspective in this rivalry, going 123 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: back to Clint longleyand Thanksgiving Day. D Roger in his 124 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: last regular season game in seventy nine, The Great Comeback 125 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty four. I love the Joeth Eisman Birthday 126 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: game at Texas Stadium where the Cowboys blew him out 127 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: in the season opener. Uh Nate Newton was talking about 128 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: the game in the early nineties when the Redskins had 129 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: the best team in the league. Sure, and they go 130 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: in there and the on side kick and the Cowboys 131 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: hit him in the mouth. And the Cowboys didn't have 132 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: the best team on paper that year, but they won 133 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: on that day. But that Romo game, I mean, it 134 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: goes right up there with one of the greatest performances 135 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: in this rivalry. Oh no, there's no question. Yeah, I 136 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: mean him he could barely I mean, if you remember, 137 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: I think that was set up by a throw to 138 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: Terrence Williams down the sidelines that they busted coverage on. So, 139 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many big plays in the history, 140 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: but it's gonna take big plays to win this game 141 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: on Sunday. You know. That's the one thing that the 142 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys have shown, at least through Week one, is they're 143 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: capable of making those big plays. They could put a 144 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on Greg Manuski in this defense. They 145 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: if they if Manuski has that's the That's the thing 146 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: about dealing with the Cowboys now is if you do 147 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: make a mistake, a ten twelve yard pass turns into 148 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: a sixty yard play. You know you have that kind 149 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: of ability and you have a quarterback that's understanding what's 150 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: going on, and then you're gonna get this running back. 151 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: You know he knows. Okay, now it's time for me. 152 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm seeing I'm seeing all these guys do things. Now 153 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: it's time for me and no week two. Hey, let's 154 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: get me going here. You know he knows what he 155 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: has to do. Yeah. I wrote about during the week 156 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: that the top three wide receivers on this team were 157 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: in the top thirty or whatever among receivers and yards 158 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: after catch in that game. And I wonder if that's 159 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: going to turn into a trend because they got three 160 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: guys they can really do something with the football after 161 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: they get it. Now, on the flip side, how much 162 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: can this defense tighten up from last week? Because Washington 163 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: has guys that can beat you too. And case Keenum 164 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: narrowly missed McLaurin again. Deep he would we talk about 165 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: Dak four oh five, he would have been well over 166 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: four hundred with probably another touchdown had he had he 167 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: connected deep in that second half. Well case, Keena, if 168 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: we remember a couple of years ago, maybe three years 169 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: two years ago, led a Minnesota Viking team to the 170 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. You know, so, yeah, it's a good quarterback. 171 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: You know, he has a good quarterback. I think you 172 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: have to be very mindful of him as a player 173 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: and he's not going to make mistakes. That's kind of 174 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: where you know, you we talked about with Smith last 175 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: year what he was able to do, and you know 176 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: how he just kind of down the same type of guy, 177 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: not gonna take a bunch of sacks. If he does 178 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: get hit, he's gonna get up, he's gonna throw a 179 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: three quarters side arm. He's gonna throw it around you. 180 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: He's gonna move around in the pocket a little bit. 181 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, you have to And if they get that 182 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: running game going, you know, if Dallas has problems stopping 183 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: the run, then this game could be very close, very tight, 184 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: and then it's anybody's game if it's that. If that's 185 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: the case, because then you have to say, okay, well 186 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: they need to block Ryan Carrigan. Now, I do like 187 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: the matchup with the Cowboys, and I've got my pick 188 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: to click when we get to that. But you know, 189 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: I like some of the matchups on the defensive side 190 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: of the ball for the Cowboys. If it turns into 191 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: a game where they where the Redskins have to throw 192 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: the football consistently to come back in this game, and 193 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: the Redskins a week ago, you know, they get up 194 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: seventeen nothing in that game and they never established the 195 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: run against the Eagles. Left guys had eighteen yards on 196 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: ten Carreys and I think Thompson was three for ten, right, 197 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: and you know they didn't even apparently didn't even try to. 198 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: It was too late. And once they lost Jonathan Allen 199 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: on defense, that's when that's when the Eagles took full 200 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: advantage of what was going on with that front. They 201 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: did not have the depth that the Cowboys have along 202 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: that defensive line. And that's gonna be that's gonna be 203 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: the big issue for them is how are they going 204 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: to replace Jonathan Allen in this game. I have a 205 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: feeling that Tim Settle is going to go outside there, 206 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: but they're gonna have to rotate a lot of guys 207 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: through there. But that is a big, big, loss for 208 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: those guys to have to deal with, and good for 209 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys if it's in fact, Okay, got to find 210 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: a way to kind of run the football a little 211 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: bit or at least establish some balance to how they're 212 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: going to play. And basically the guys they have up 213 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: front now that Allen is out, then who's a former 214 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: first round draft pick is another Alabama first round pick 215 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: and Ron Payne. But good playing you get fifth rounders. 216 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: But matt Ionidas has played well. He is he's he's 217 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: a He's their version of Tyron Crawford. If I say that, 218 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: I mean that is he is a He's a guy 219 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: that could kind of play a couple different spots. He's 220 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: never gonna flash at you with a lot of pass rush. 221 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: He's really a powerful guy. He plays square, he's very 222 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: good against the run, and he tends to play a 223 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: little high then people can take advantage of, but he 224 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: does and he plays with knee ben and he's along 225 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. So yeah, they're gonna have to 226 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to come out here, and if they're 227 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to be physical with this this Washington 228 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: offensive line. If they want to get Ezekiel l a 229 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: going well and then along those lines, I'm just looking 230 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: at the coaches film a little bit from last week. Yeah, 231 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: that fifth round linebacker Cole Holcomb. Yeah yeah, I wrote 232 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: about him as my under the radar guy this week. Yeah, 233 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: he is a guy that if you watched him play 234 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: at North Carolina, he's got four or five speed legits, 235 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: got a vander Ash look to a money very long. 236 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: He could run, and he and when he has a 237 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: feel for how to shoot gaps. So if you don't 238 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: get second level hats on him, he'll run through or 239 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: he'll run backside to chase plays. That's what he did 240 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: at North Carolina. Now, he could be a little too 241 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: aggressive too. You'll see him sometimes go too far and 242 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: then and then get washed on the play and then 243 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: go that way. So yeah, it's a that's how you 244 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: have to kind of you get You gotta make sure 245 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: you get hats on on him the way. He had 246 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: a really good kind of an emergency starter last week, 247 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: but showed some really good things for these guys. And 248 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: as as we dive, we just by happenstance started diving 249 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: into the redskin defense here that Montes sweat Wow, one 250 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: of my favorite players. I'm surprised the Raiders didn't take 251 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: him with the you know, I know they took the 252 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: kid from Clemson the fourth overall. Sweat to me would 253 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: have been a better pick right there. And I was 254 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: really surprised that he lasted to I believe seventeen. And 255 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: you'll see it on the Jason Garrett Show, probably posted 256 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot com. He breaks down Will McClay 257 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: breaks down the edge rushers, both Kerrigan and Montes. And 258 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: I asked, I asked him about Sweat and I had 259 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: forgotten this, and you're well aware of it. He had. 260 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: Was it a heart issue? Start issuing the kid? Yeah, 261 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: and that's why he slid until late first run. Yeah. 262 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: It wasn't like the kid from Michigan that went in 263 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: the fifth round to the Raiders that this was one 264 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: that everybody kind of you know, they kind of got 265 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: a handle on real early in here, all right, And 266 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: I didn't really and maybe because of the heart issue whatever, 267 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: I didn't really look at him. I don't have time 268 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: like you do. You can go into these draft prospects. 269 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: And so I saw him for the basically for the 270 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: first time yesterday, and I went whoa look at this guy. Yeah, 271 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: and Will was breaking it down the first My first 272 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: reaction on him was, look at the long arms on 273 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 1: that guy he is and he and Will said, yeah, 274 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: they're thirty five six. Yeah, every every every thing that 275 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: he had to go through when he went through his 276 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: senior year at Mississippi State, to the Senior Bowl, to 277 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: the Combine to getting drafted, all that, there was an 278 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: improvement in everything that he did along the way. I mean, 279 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: he was impressive Mississippi State, he got the Senior Bowl, 280 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: was clearly one of the best players on the field. 281 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: And then you look at what he's what he was 282 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: able to do in the draft, get the draft, and 283 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: then now with the Redskins, and so I was shocked 284 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: that he lasted the stuff too. But you're you're saying 285 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: there was a medical condition. You're absolutely right about that. 286 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: But yeah, you have to be ready for him, and 287 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: he's got that that the length you talked about with 288 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: that edge rush, and you know, Dak is very well 289 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: aware of him. He's watched him playing college after this one. Yeah, 290 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: he's still got some dudes up front, even without Jonathan Allen. 291 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: But I know, try Micky, you were talking about the 292 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: fan this morning that they got to get Zeke going. 293 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: You think he's ready for more of a load. I do, 294 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: and I can tell the way Jason answered the question today. Yeah, 295 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he didn't dive into it, but thirty seven 296 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: snaps in the game is better than any practice you 297 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: ever get. So uh, he and I don't. I don't 298 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: think he's on a pitch count anymore. I don't think 299 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: go with him, yeah, and let him go. Six practices 300 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: and thirty seven snaps in a game. There's no holding 301 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: back now, Okay, So then what kind of what kind 302 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: of playing time does Pollard? How are you gonna use 303 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: Pollard if you're gonna if you're gonna go ahead and 304 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: give Zeke the full dose? I mean, because that was 305 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: those were thirty seven snaps in three quarters for Zeke. 306 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: He didn't play in the fourth quarter, and so if 307 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: that was a close game, he would have been over 308 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: fifty snaps in that game. Well, Pollard got yeah, And 309 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: so I thought the twenty some right, right, And so 310 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting as we go along how 311 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: Pollard has used. But I thought the way they used 312 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: Pollard was effective and and I don't know that it 313 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: will for the first three quarters of that game, that 314 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: it won't be that much different really, twenty two snaps 315 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: and and what they're gonna do is go back to 316 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: the original plan before Zeke had to hold out. The 317 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: idea was to incorporate him in the offense, give him 318 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: a series here, or maybe just a play here or 319 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: play there, and then get him involved in the passing 320 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: game because he's a complimentary guy, right he. I mean, 321 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: you can pretty much line him up anywhere, and he 322 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: probably can do if and it doesn't look like Tavon's 323 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: playing right, he's still he's out Cush protocol, so he's out. 324 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: So maybe Pollard picks up some of that. In the offense, 325 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: he can go in the slot. That's what their idea 326 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: was to use him. So from a mental standpoint, for 327 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: a rookie in his second NFL game, how big? How 328 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: big is it putting extra stuff like playing him in 329 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: the slot on no on his plate? Young Bill Walsh 330 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: will get him involved. I wouldn't be surprised if Young 331 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh will get him involved. I wouldn't be surprised 332 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: if we see him that, you know, I wouldn't. I 333 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised to see them in the backfield together. 334 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: You know, you you come up with create. The thing 335 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: about Kellen Moore is he was totally on board when 336 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: they drafted. It wasn't like a cell job to him 337 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: from Gary Brown and Phillip Tanner and those guys. It 338 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: was like, hey, we've got a We've got a guy 339 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: that can do a lot of different things. So find 340 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: ways to incorporate both those guys. You know there's opportunities there. 341 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you have to be creative. He comes up 342 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: with wrinkles. You know, we could see them both play. 343 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, Mickey's right. You know the original plan is 344 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: run Zeke, run Zeke, and then if you need that changeup, 345 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: go ahead and put him in there. Because he practiced 346 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: all through train cap you should not be worried if 347 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: you you evaluated him during training camp and he had 348 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: a full load to begin with because he was really 349 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: the only one out there that was playing. So and 350 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: then week to week you have a package for him 351 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: and so from a mental standpoint, he can handle it 352 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: because you're not overloading him with a bunch of stuff. 353 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: It's just what's in the game. What's in the game 354 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: play from week to week? Right, think about when they 355 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: had Dunbar here. I mean it was like it was 356 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: a package like you mentioned. But this guy's a little 357 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: different because I think he can actually he can be 358 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: a between the tackles guy. In addition to I like 359 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: what I saw from him between the tackles last week. 360 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: I mean he had sort of a zeke look to him. 361 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes I was I was like, which one's 362 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: in the game right there? You know, and the numbers 363 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: weren't there. No, but you're also trying to kind of 364 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: wind the clock out. The giants know what you're trying 365 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: to do. There were no holes there. 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Yeah, breakfast, better get going. 410 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: You should have done your pregame show. We're outside, we're outside? Yeah, 411 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: what do you are? You? We are No, I'll be 412 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 1: I mean studio CBS eleven and then we have Danny 413 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: White and Keith Russell live at the stadium and that's 414 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: at ten thirty. You're you start at what time we started? 415 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: We started eleven, Okay, so you could watch Cowboy if 416 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: I think we're on after I think we're oh yeah 417 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: on A twenty one. Yeah exactly, Okay, we're hopefully we're 418 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: doing We're doing which we now called Texas twenty one. 419 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 1: Danny was pretty good last week for his Fish one. Yeah. Yeah, 420 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: here's well, since we mentioned Danny, I was doing little 421 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: bit of research on Jay Gruden, Will McClay Danny White. 422 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: Where am I going with that? Jay Gruden, Will McClay 423 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: Danny White. Okay, Danny White went to school Arizona State. 424 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: Will McClay went to Rice. Not that indoor football. It's 425 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: the Arizona Rattlers, Arena football and Utah and well yeah, 426 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: in oh six he became the head coach of the 427 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: Utah Ways. Okay, I got to get these teams. Okay. 428 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: Will was the Dallas Desperados, Jay Gruden was the Orlando Predators. 429 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: Will played for the Detroit Drive one Championships there yea, 430 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: and then they played Orlando. The Desperadoes did for the 431 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: championship game. I think it was well. Danny White did 432 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: a heck of a job with the Arizona Yeah, okay, 433 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: I've done the research on it. In fact, Jay Gruden, 434 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: of course was a player in the In fact, he 435 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: was an MVP of the league for the Tampa Bay Storm. 436 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: Back stories. Okay, Tim Markham I think was head coach 437 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: then okay, and so well, there's a connection with the 438 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: coaches here. Of course, Garrett played for the San Antonio 439 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: franchise in the World League of American Football. Was part 440 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: of that. Jay Gruden was with the Barcelona Dragons in 441 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: ninety one with Jack mcnell. Okay, and then Gruden started 442 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: playing for the Arena Football League Tampa Bay Storm in 443 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety one. He was in the league MVP. 444 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: They won four titles with him as the quarterback that team. 445 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: He was the quarterback of the team, all right, But 446 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: take it before that and Will McClay, as Rob mentioned, 447 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: he played for the Detroit Drive. They won three Arena 448 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: Football titles three Arena Bowls in eighty nine, ninety and 449 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: ninety two. Jay Gruden was on Arena Bowl champions in 450 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: ninety one, ninety three, ninety five, and ninety six, Danny 451 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: White coach the Arizona Rattlers to the Arena Bowl title 452 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: in ninety four and ninety seven. There is a stretch 453 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty nine to two thousand and four where 454 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: one of those three Will McClay, Jay Gruden or Danny White, 455 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: we're in the championship game in one of those three 456 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: one ten straight titles from nineteen eighty nine to nineteen 457 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: ninety Arena Royalty. I actually got Jake's playing decks contract 458 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: to us. I got Jay Gruden on the phone like 459 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: ten years ago, fifteen years ago now to talk about 460 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: McLay and because they're buddies. Yeah, and they were arrivals, yeah, 461 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: and just they were just oh they he's just ribbing 462 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: each other. I mean, yes, hilarious, hilarious. And both the 463 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: Jay Gruden and Danny White are in the Arena Football 464 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: League Hall of Fame located where uh, let's say, Tampa, 465 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you don't look that upland yeah, look 466 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: that up Arena Ball Hall of Fame. You know, but 467 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: it says a lot about you know, might have a 468 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: hall of Fame without a building. Yeah, Yeah, Arina Ball 469 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: has been going for a long time now. That Dave 470 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: Baker bail down him. Yeah, yeah, that's right to go 471 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame himself. Commission. He looks like 472 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: Babe Ruth. No, he's not lying. He's larger than life. 473 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: So was his head. He does have a buckethead. He does. Okay, man, 474 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: he's not He's a big man. Yeah, yep. In fact, 475 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: I remember I remember interviewing him during arena football and 476 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: You're amazing how big his head was. I was amazed, 477 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: how bigger the human being has a big man. That 478 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: might have been one of Rob's first assignments here. What 479 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: was that covering arena ball, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, 480 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: I said, did yeah, were you doing the sideline reporting 481 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: for the game? Ry table, I was doing it. I did. 482 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: I did a radio and we did TV. I did TV, 483 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: did the game and did we have rocket? We had 484 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: rocket rocket ismail speaking of as we bring it back 485 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: to Cowboys is here Cowboys. Rockey Rock was the analyst 486 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: on what and it's the It was the first arena 487 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: football game he had ever seen. It's so rocket. It 488 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: was like every whenever a play, any play was made, 489 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: which was any play at the game. There's a play 490 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: made every single play. I mean it's like a touchdown here, 491 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: a touchdown there. And his commentary was strictly wow wow Yeah. 492 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 1: So were you doing the game the time we were 493 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: sitting basically we were located in the stands. They're they're 494 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: hating you right now in periscope right next to the game, Charlotte. Yeah, 495 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, Okay, anyway, that's enough arena talk. 496 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, he found it, found it all right, 497 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: let's open up the phone lines and so you can 498 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah eight eight five five two two nine seven. So 499 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: you're on periscope there and you got anything on. They're 500 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: bitching about the fact that we get off topic every 501 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: once in a while. Yeah, but it related to the game. Yeah, 502 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: there we go. Yeah, YEA one is in the Arena 503 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. By the way, he is to 504 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: go in here. I've already said that, welcome member Glands 505 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: And where's the building there? Kayden, Oh, that's going to 506 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: take another third of us. But how about well, speaking 507 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: of I didn't we weren't speaking of hot seats, but 508 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: I was thinking of hot seats and Ron Rivera. But 509 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: now being on the hot seat in Carolina, how about 510 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: Jay Bruten, Jake Grutin. He has all this arena football experience, 511 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: and then he was an offensive coordinator for the Cincinnati 512 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: Bengals for three years and got this head coaching job. 513 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: So they haven't had a whole lot of success in 514 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: Washington with him as the head coach. No, and that's 515 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: why again, I think this game is really really important 516 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: that they you know, you don't want to find him. 517 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to find himself losing a team. You know, 518 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: they go down oh and two, and then I think 519 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: they have the Bears the following week. You know, I mean, 520 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't get any easier for any of these teams. 521 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: You got to find a way to win these games 522 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: and stuff. So nobody in the league feels sorry for 523 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: anybody though. I mean, trust me, they don't feel sorry 524 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: for you know, Carolina and guy. I don't feel sorry 525 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: for Washington or anybody else in this league. So, uh, yeah, 526 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: it's it's but it's he is. He's under he's under 527 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: some pressure, but they've given him a lot of time 528 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: to try and haven't given him a quarterback. They no, 529 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: well they had Alex Smith and yeah, you know, well 530 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 1: he did a nice job for them, but they drafted 531 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: a quarterback this year though, the kid they drafted, the 532 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: kid they're just not They're just not ready to play. 533 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Dwayne Haskins this isn't ready to play it, 534 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 1: and Gruden might not. I mean it might get to 535 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: the middle of the season where all of a sudden, 536 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: next time we played them, it might be Dwayne Haskins 537 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: played for the last game of the season. Yeah. Pretty 538 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: good Yeah, pretty good chance Dwayne Haskins is going to 539 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: be the quarterback for the Redskins in the last game 540 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: of the season. All right, periscope actually coming through here. 541 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: What's more important here, uh, fixing the run defense or 542 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: getting to their quarterback question they have. Well, if you 543 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 1: don't fix the run defense, you ain't gonna get through 544 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Yeah, I think that pretty simple. Guys on 545 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: defense will tell you that everything starts with the run. 546 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: I looked it up. I think we said Adrian Peterson 547 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: went over one hundred yards last year. He had ninety 548 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: nine and it took him a lot of carries, but 549 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: he really hard in the game and kept them kind 550 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: of balanced on offense. So that's going to be a challenge. 551 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,959 Speaker 1: But I would say I would say up front, stopping 552 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: the run and Christoph Shard spoke to the media yesterday 553 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: and just said it's just all about being discipline or 554 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: gaps basically. I mean nothing, no secret sauce. They're just 555 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: getting back to what they do and we'll see if 556 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: they can clean it up. Yeah, it'll probably helped that. 557 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: Crawford and Lawrence will play more. I said half the 558 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: game it was it was sixty two snaps combined from 559 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: this two and you've got to think both will You know, 560 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: Crawford had a good day yesterday, so I think that 561 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: looks good for him Sunday to try to up the 562 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: workload a little bit. You gotta think Tank will have 563 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: more than thirty two snaps. I mean there were sixty 564 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: nine snaps. I believe the opponent's win ran last week, 565 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: so you know, a normal dose for him would be 566 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: around forty five to fifty. And now that he's healthy, 567 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, they were holding him back last year because 568 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: of the shoulder. They knew he was limited. So both 569 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: of those guys, if you know, if they're ready to go, 570 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: let's go. Um, but they better stop the run because 571 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: if you're not stopping the run, then you're going to 572 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: be so conscious of play fakes. And you're you're gonna 573 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: get killed. Well, and all you have to do is 574 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: look at that game last night and what Tampa Bay 575 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: did to Carolina stopping the run. I believe Tampa Carolina 576 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: had nineteen carries for thirty nine yards in this game 577 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: and McCaffrey went over two hundred yards total offense a 578 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: week ago and they had they were all over cam Well, 579 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: let's go to speaking of that. Scott in Pasadena here 580 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 1: on talking Cowboys. Hello Scott, good morning Bill. It's Lynn Scott. 581 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: How are you guys, Lynn Scott, Yeah, former former defensive back. 582 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: There was there was Lynn Scott. Right, you was pretty good? 583 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: Pretty good play Pasadena, Texas or California? Thank you? Good 584 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: morning ye where the suitors will be tomorrow night to 585 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: take on the UCLA Bruins and Chip Kelly go ahead, 586 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: you would bring that. Thank you one for your support. 587 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: I've been working on my California teaching credential and I 588 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: get up early in the morning study and then use 589 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: your show. It's my break. There you go. Ja Ja 590 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: received my clear credentials this week, so thank you. Um. 591 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: I want to tell you I looked at take from 592 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: the last two games we played, Watchington last year. Yeah, 593 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: Game two went so well for us, and it looks 594 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: like we had two war daddies. One on defense Randy 595 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: Gregory just dominated and on offense Samarti Cooper. Now, I 596 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: was just wondering who you think our war daddies will 597 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: be on offense and defense Sunday. Thanks, that's kind of 598 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: getting click click Yeah for sure. Oh you gotta wait 599 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: another half hour for that, No, another ten minutes. Yeah, 600 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: I want to show now you know what we could do? 601 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: Pick the CLI why not? You know what? Can I 602 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: start first? Inst I'm gonna pick. Some of you guys 603 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: aren't gonna pick because I'm I'm gonna go with Tyron 604 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: Crawford in this game. I think it. And I asked 605 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: the question that Jason Garrett about Donald Penn, and I 606 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,959 Speaker 1: think that Donald Penn is had a great has had 607 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: a great career, and I think there's a replacement to 608 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: Trent Williams. He's been okay. But the longer that Donald 609 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: Penn has to block, the harder it is for him 610 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: to maintain that leverage and maintain his ability to stay 611 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: with this guy to sustain and I and you and you. 612 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: These are the types of games where Crawford. He's gonna 613 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna win with He's gonna win with power, He's 614 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: gonna win with some agility. He's going to win with effort. 615 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: You know, this is a Donald pen not holding up 616 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: very well and then all of a sudden, if it 617 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: turns into them throwing the football. I could see Crawford 618 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: being a factor in this game, rushing the pastor at 619 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: Donald Penn, anybody on that left side. If you play 620 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: with effort, if you stay after it, you play with 621 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: the intensity, Donald Penn can be broken down. And I 622 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: think that's gonna be a good matchup for the Cowboys, 623 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: not only on the run, but also when when they 624 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: stop to throw the football. Keep an eye on him, Crawford. Okay, 625 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: all right? Tyrone offered the pick to click. I'm gonna 626 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: go to the offensive line for Dallas and Brian wrote 627 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: about Connor Williams this week. I got my eye on 628 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: him in this game because we talked all offseason about 629 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: how he's added strength and bulk, and this is the 630 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: type of matchup where he's got to show it off 631 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,479 Speaker 1: against iron pain in the middle of the line. So 632 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: i'm i'm I think if he can have a big 633 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: day and control that. Then this offense has a chance 634 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: to spite the environment and a pretty good defensive line 635 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: for Washington. They got a chance to do some things 636 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: again offensively that they want to do. We're staying on 637 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: defense or offense, wherever you want to go. Pick. I'm 638 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: I am ready to see Zeke explode. I think that 639 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: he's ready to go. They're gonna ride him. And I 640 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: think Washington will be so worried about the passing game that, 641 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: as Michael Irvin pointed out this week, and go ahead 642 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: and pick your poison. And I think that they're gonna 643 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: pick the most. Uh, They're gonna the most recent thing 644 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys did, which was throw the ball. So I 645 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: think they might get a clean box to be able 646 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: to run and watch out for Zeke. I'm gonna go 647 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: with Layton vander Esch making some plays and also being 648 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: a key in the run defense. Yeah, and you're gonna 649 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: need it. You're gonna need guys getting off blocks. Seriously, 650 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 1: this is gonna if the Washington does have success, it's 651 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: because Dallas didn't do a very good job of playing 652 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: with their hands and getting off blocks. I'm just you know, 653 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: because you know there's there's there were some games like 654 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: the game last year that was played there at fed 655 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: X where Peterson had some just clear shot runt holes, 656 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, where guys were hats on hats and now 657 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: he's taking it up inside and you know, Lawrence is 658 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: having to chase in the backside to go make this play. 659 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: But it's eighteen yards down the field. So yeah, I 660 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: better find a way to play at their hands, get 661 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: off blocks, beat some blocks, and get in position to 662 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: get some tackles in this game. And another item along 663 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: those lines they line up. If Cowboys line up MALIEK. 664 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: Collins on Eric Flowers, that's a that's a good just 665 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 1: looking at him on this roster because we talked him 666 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: all camp about the type of camp he had. This 667 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: is an opportunity to matchup for him. We'll see what 668 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: he can do with. Yeah, Flowers doesn't have to play 669 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: in space anymore. That's why now playing it guard, he 670 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: has a little bit more of a little bit better chance. 671 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: But you're right, the quickness, the power if you if 672 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: you want to walk him, you can walk him, but 673 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: you get under him and go because he does not 674 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: have power. I think he'll have. I think Flowers will 675 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: have a lot of difficulty with that. He's on that 676 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: left side over there with with Donald Penn. So if 677 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: if it's coming from that left side or that actually 678 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys right side, right, you'll know why for sure. 679 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So and then last week, I mean a 680 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: good matchup was Fletcher Cox versus Brandon Shurf. But you 681 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: know that get off that Cox has. Yeah, I know 682 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: he's he's, yeah, he's He's clearly one of the best 683 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: they are playing in this game. So okay, let's take 684 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: another break. We got more phone calls to get too. 685 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: As we get you ready for Cowboy always Redskins and 686 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: just about it, we're learning about important financial matters. 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A lot of 739 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: questions about that, right, talk to people and they said, 740 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: we will not talk about players that are under contracts 741 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: with other teams. So that's the answer. I guy, what 742 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: did he do? Well? He's the Dolphins have given him 743 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: the opportunity to go seek a trade. Did they just 744 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 1: want to get rid of everybody? That's kind of what 745 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: everyone wants to leave. They all requested trade multiple guys that, 746 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: according to report, the first game he started at corner 747 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 1: last year for him, he's played safety for him the 748 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: summer he's played, he played linebacker. In this last game, 749 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: they were really overall, they were just really bad as 750 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: a team on defense. The Ravens did a really nice 751 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: job of attacking them with Lamar Jackson. But yeah, I 752 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: reached out to some people this morning. They said, hey, listen, 753 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: we just can't comment about people that are under contract. 754 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: We haven't heard anything from them. So I mean people 755 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: are saying, oh, it's reported he's seeking to trade well, 756 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: until the team, until the team, the Dolphins initiate trade talks, 757 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 1: you have to be real careful about that. So that's 758 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: kind of what I know right now about that. Where 759 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: does he fit in? Well, yeah, that's what I was. 760 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 1: He could play nickel corner, he could play corner, he 761 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: could play safety, he could play a lot of different spots. 762 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: So he's gonna come in here and start. He could 763 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: if you did something with if you moved on from Well, 764 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: he would be insurance. He would be insurance for at 765 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: least you could start him at safety if you wanted to, 766 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 1: if you wanted to compete him against Jeff Heath, because 767 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: him and Woods would be a pretty good match together. 768 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: You could use him if something happens next year again 769 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 1: with Brown and being gone and Jones being gone, So 770 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: it kind of buy it. He's got like three years 771 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: left and then a fifth year option. So yeah, he's 772 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: kind of and he's very very inexpensive. He's like one 773 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: point two million dollars for him, so and he's a 774 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: really good football player, but he's just in a bad 775 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: situation right now with the Dolphins. A lot of players 776 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: are in bad situations there. What do we read into 777 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 1: the tweet from Taco yesterday the waiting game with an hourglass. Yeah, 778 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,240 Speaker 1: he thinks he's gonna get moved on or released or something. 779 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: If I said I said it on the show earlier 780 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: in the week. If he's a healthy scratch this week, 781 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: they need to move on from him. That's just how 782 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 1: I feel. I mean, you don't no sense of just 783 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: continuing on this way, you man, that's just you know, 784 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: don't have a discriminal player in your locker room if 785 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: you if you can help it, or you're gonna have 786 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: to make a roster move next week. Robert quinn quah. 787 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: Right now, you might get an exemption for him for 788 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: a few days of practice, but if he's ready to go, 789 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: then yeah, you need a roster exemption. And I mean, well, 790 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: they got another three on the roster right now, by 791 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: the way, and I was kind of under the impression 792 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: they didn't, but they signed. They signed, they just didn't 793 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: announce it. They signed Covin. They got fifty three on 794 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: the roster. I was thinking, okay, you know, and Jason 795 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: Garrett was talking to us about, no, we haven't done 796 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: anything with Covington yet. But they signed Covington, he's on 797 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 1: the roster. So if they want to get Cedric Wilson 798 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: on the roster, they are going to have to make 799 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: a move to today or tomorrow by three o'clock right 800 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: to get that done, or you grit your teeth. Yeah. Well, 801 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: the other thing on Taco is the team. The other 802 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: teams know that Quinn's coming back after this week, and 803 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: so if you're talking trade with another team, sure you 804 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: know they're sitting there going, oh, let's let's wait and 805 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: see what you do with them after you when you're 806 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: have to make a decision there, you're going to get 807 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: a twelfth pack. Yeah. Bob in Tennessee, you're up next 808 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 1: on Talking Cowboys. Hello, Bob, Hey, guys, how are you doing? Great? Good? Hey, 809 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: Mick big fan in a Cowboys fan since nineteen sixty nine, 810 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: So I used to Dallas Cowboys Weekly and read all 811 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: the articles. So I really enjoy your show. Thanks, But 812 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: this question is for Brian Okayan laughing, Let's go ahead. 813 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:46,439 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Oh that's okay. Yeah, So, in your evaluation 814 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 1: as a former scout, and I'm thinking about Tristan Hill, 815 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about Tacol Charlton. Sure, as a scout, when 816 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 1: you're evaluating these players, obviously you're looking at the physical 817 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: attributes and all that. Do the scouts talk to coaches 818 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 1: about the attitudes and things of that? So what happens 819 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: when we if we draft players maybe like a Taco 820 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: Charlton or someone else whose attitude isn't maybe what the 821 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: coach described it to be, do we as scouts or 822 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,520 Speaker 1: do you as scouts look at that and say, you 823 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: know what, that coach has lost all credibility because I 824 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: wonder sometimes, Oh no, you're absolutely That's why you talk 825 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: to the equipment men, the trainers. Those are the people 826 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 1: that deal with him every day. You know, you you 827 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, you go in there and listen, Rod Miranelli 828 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: lived with Tristan Hill, basically lived with him. You know 829 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: this this this spring, and they you know, they did 830 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,879 Speaker 1: their due diligence too on on Taco as well. Now, 831 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 1: if if people are telling you that they're they're now 832 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. I will give you a 833 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 1: We had a goodwin the corner that we drafted from 834 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: Tennessee back in the day that that was they got 835 00:42:55,320 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: put in jail and I remember Everywoch, not Goodrich, Dwayne Goodrich. 836 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,320 Speaker 1: We drafted Dwayne Goodridge. Henry Schroka went to the University 837 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: of Tennessee and got every bit of information you could 838 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: get about him. He said, he wasn't tough, he didn't 839 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: like the lift waits, you know, he didn't work hard, 840 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,919 Speaker 1: and we still draft the guy. You know. I mean, 841 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: you get all this information and you still but because 842 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: you're listening to a coach from that program tell you, oh, no, 843 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 1: he's tough, he works hard, he does this. Henry Schroka 844 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: had every bit of information about Dwayne Goodridge as far 845 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: as a player goes. And you know, and so you 846 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: get that information. How you choose to use it is 847 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 1: on you. It's on the front off. As a scout, 848 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: you can only say, Hey, this is what my guys 849 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: are telling me. This is what my guys telling me 850 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 1: about Quincy Carter. This is what my guys telling me 851 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,879 Speaker 1: about Taco Charlton. I mean, so, yeah, credibility. You know 852 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: who to talk to and who not to talk to 853 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to these types of situations. Clude Hill 854 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: in there. I don't think Hill's a problem, No, I 855 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:09,439 Speaker 1: think he's talking more maybe talking about that's not why 856 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: he's inactive, right, no, right, no, right, And that's not 857 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: why Taco's inactive either. By the way, I want to 858 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,439 Speaker 1: enlighten us why well he hadn't they don't think he's 859 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 1: playing well. Okay, I think it's pretty obvious. You can 860 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 1: have a bad attitude, but if you're a bad attitude 861 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: and not playing well, then you're probably be getting on 862 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: the field. From the Mickey Spagnola Eyeball tests thirty practices 863 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 1: in four preseason games. As he played better, he played better, 864 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: but I don't know that it was every down. I 865 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: don't know how consistent he was. But again, the guys 866 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: that took us place didn't exactly have stellar performances exactly right, 867 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,760 Speaker 1: And we're about to find out what kind of stellar 868 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: performance they have this week noon Sunday, catch Brian at 869 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: eleven a m be out there in the plaza, in 870 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: the plaza and you can be a part of it too, 871 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: the watching part on the plaza here at the Star 872 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: and we'll talk at you again on Monday. This has 873 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 874 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club.