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Speaker 2: Today is April fifteenth, twenty twenty five, and we are
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Speaker 3: I'm Kyle Yeomans. Nine days away, gentlemen.
Speaker 2: It can't come fast enough, and it also can't hold
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Speaker 2: get to our draft coverage with one oh five three
Speaker 2: the Fan on Thursday, continue through every single one of
Speaker 2: the two hundred and fifty seven picks throughout the week,
Speaker 2: and then get into what is happening with this team
Speaker 2: and every other team in the NFL after that. So
Speaker 2: it's getting down to crunch time, which also means it's
Speaker 2: the last few opportunities that we might have Nick Harris
Speaker 2: to look at certain players, including one that we've been
Speaker 2: waiting on for a little bit. Will Johnson working out
Speaker 2: from Michigan, the cornerback working out. Was it today or yesterday?
Speaker 4: It was on Monday?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Monday? Yeah, so yesterday working out anymore?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Me neither working out and getting to see what exactly
Speaker 2: he's bringing to the table.
Speaker 3: Do you have an update?
Speaker 6: Yeah, So he did work out yesterday for scouts and attendance.
Speaker 6: He did not run his forty, which that was the
Speaker 6: big thing we were all asking going into going into
Speaker 6: the draft process.
Speaker 4: A general is are we going to see Will Johnson run?
Speaker 6: He has all these lower body injuries that he's battled
Speaker 6: throughout his career. You know, you don't really know what
Speaker 6: that verified athleticism looks like, but we got some of
Speaker 6: those other points of athleticism. You can look at vertical
Speaker 6: jump thirty seven inches that he jumped yesterday a four
Speaker 6: to three ree short shuttle, which whenever you're comparing it
Speaker 6: to other corners in the class, it's kind of average,
Speaker 6: and according to Dane Brugler of The Athletic above or
Speaker 6: average jeering positional drill drills. One scout told him he
Speaker 6: Will Johnson looked very smooth, and that's you know, that's
Speaker 6: that's what jumps off off tape, right, is that Will
Speaker 6: Johnson is this smooth, transitional corner that can move his
Speaker 6: hips really well.
Speaker 4: At times and and.
Speaker 6: Cover some of the best players in the Big Ten
Speaker 6: and some of the top competition that Michigan has faced
Speaker 6: over the last couple of years. I think back to
Speaker 6: that National Championship perform and said he had a couple
Speaker 6: of years ago against Washington, came out in the second
Speaker 6: half with an interception to open against Michael Pennis and
Speaker 6: played really well in that game. It was a force
Speaker 6: in that game, but obviously had a lot of help
Speaker 6: around it. Now this past year battled injury, and so
Speaker 6: it's it's a tough eval don't don't get me wrong.
Speaker 6: And I think you know, guys that have a positive
Speaker 6: view on Will Johnson and guys that have a negative
Speaker 6: view on Will Johnson.
Speaker 4: I don't think there's a right or wrong here.
Speaker 6: I think this is going to be something that unfortunately
Speaker 6: we're just not gonna have a lot of data on,
Speaker 6: and it's gonna have to be something that you go
Speaker 6: with on a you know, a really good evl I.
Speaker 4: And this is where you know.
Speaker 6: Having season scouts, having seasoned evaluators really come into play
Speaker 6: because when you can look at a guy like Will Johnson,
Speaker 6: what can you factor in? What can you factor out?
Speaker 6: And how can you make that part of the evaluation process.
Speaker 6: This is gonna be one of the more difficult ones.
Speaker 6: I even know we have different opinions on this table
Speaker 6: about Will Johnson, but he's gonna be a guy we
Speaker 6: talked about on Night one. Regardless, he's gonna be a
Speaker 6: guy that does get drafted in the first round. There's
Speaker 6: just a matter of, you know, where does he get fit,
Speaker 6: and how does he end up playing early on in
Speaker 6: his career and can he stay away from injury.
Speaker 2: We're a couple of weeks into the baseball season two, right,
Speaker 2: There's a saying, whenever you have a pitcher leave the game,
Speaker 2: you close the book on X pitcher. Right now that
Speaker 2: you've seen his pro day, you can close the scouting
Speaker 2: notebook on Will Johnson.
Speaker 3: Right, you can close the most of the book. You've
Speaker 3: got it all.
Speaker 2: You've got the tape, you've got the numbers, you've got
Speaker 2: the vertical, you've got the Shuttle and the lack of
Speaker 2: a forty. So now the book is closed on Will Johnson.
Speaker 2: Does your opinion changed now that it's closed? No, I
Speaker 2: mean my opinions pretty much stay the same on him.
Speaker 2: I'm nervous about the lower extremity injuries that seems to
Speaker 2: be a constant with him over the last two years. Yeah,
Speaker 2: is that something that's going to linger into his pro career? Honestly,
Speaker 2: that's a topic of conversation with a lot of these corners.
Speaker 2: Benjamin Morrison's a guy that I love the tape. You
Speaker 2: could argue maybe has some of the best tape of
Speaker 2: any corner in the entire draft. But the hips Can
Speaker 2: I trust a guy that's got bum hibs translating the league?
Speaker 7: Is that going to be a problem for years to come?
Speaker 7: Revel when it comes to the ACL Now, that's one
Speaker 7: we've seen corners come back from. But how long is
Speaker 7: it going to take to him to get back to
Speaker 7: the form he was at East Carolina? But when it
Speaker 7: comes to Will Johnson, he is at his best in
Speaker 7: my opinion, playing off coverage where he can read key
Speaker 7: into the quarterback break on the football. I don't love
Speaker 7: him necessarily all the time. And run support, and anytime
Speaker 7: he's got to turn his back to the quarterback, I
Speaker 7: am now terrified the double moves he can be susceptible to.
Speaker 7: I just personally have some other corners that I like
Speaker 7: a little bit more than Will Johnson. But I've had
Speaker 7: conversations with people that would disagree and say Revel's a
Speaker 7: little more stiff than Will Johnson.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 7: I think Revel's better than Johnson when it comes to
Speaker 7: moving down the field. I think the recovery speed, the
Speaker 7: long speed. Those are questions with Will Johnson, and we
Speaker 7: didn't get that necessarily answered when it came to the
Speaker 7: forty times.
Speaker 3: So good player.
Speaker 7: I just personally like some other corners more in this
Speaker 7: draft class, and he scares me a little bit, especially
Speaker 7: if we had that conversation at twelve.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 8: To me, this is where you know, and the side
Speaker 8: that we're on now, the media side of things here
Speaker 8: that now I think that we have to be less
Speaker 8: critical of these teams, draft and players, because to me,
Speaker 8: this is like saying I'm going to give you a
Speaker 8: thousand dollars for the stock the stock market, and I'm
Speaker 8: going to ask you to make pick me a stock
Speaker 8: that you know nothing about the company. You know some
Speaker 8: things about the company, but you don't know everything about
Speaker 8: the company here. This is what we're getting into right
Speaker 8: now is an era where these players. I was just
Speaker 8: going through Dame Brugler's Beast and just look at it numbers,
Speaker 8: just seeing you know, where numbers were. I've never seen
Speaker 8: a Beast that had fewer workouts completed when it came
Speaker 8: to combine works and pro day workouts. You're asking these
Speaker 8: scouts now, and I you know, we could all be
Speaker 8: super critical about these scouts and how they draft and
Speaker 8: all that, and Nick said it the best You're going
Speaker 8: to have to have the ability to evaluate just really
Speaker 8: the tape and hope you get the medical right and
Speaker 8: hope you get the player right because they're not giving
Speaker 8: you the whole picture. They're asking you to pick a
Speaker 8: stock here, but you don't know the company completely and
Speaker 8: could it could be millions of dollars, it could be
Speaker 8: it could be lost games. You know, they're now asking
Speaker 8: you to do things as a scout that's really kind
Speaker 8: of for years has been a staple of what scouting is.
Speaker 8: You go to get the numbers. You go to ann Arbor,
Speaker 8: Michigan with the anticipation of completing the picture for this
Speaker 8: guy so you can make the best evaluation of him
Speaker 8: and pick him where he needs to be selected. Me personally,
Speaker 8: I haven't moved him. I have not moved him on
Speaker 8: and I've always had him as the second round guy.
Speaker 8: I think he's the second round guy if you stack
Speaker 8: him right now on my board, he's the twenty fifth
Speaker 8: best player on my board. But I bet if there
Speaker 8: was a time where there was talk that he was
Speaker 8: the third or fourth or fifth best player on boards,
Speaker 8: you know, I don't think we could say that anymore
Speaker 8: about this player. This now has become an error where
Speaker 8: it's become tougher on scouts to make good selections because
Speaker 8: of lack of information that they don't get.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you guys hit the nail on the head. Really,
Speaker 9: I've got him as a second round player too.
Speaker 3: I never moved him.
Speaker 9: I think that long speed, even before the pro day
Speaker 9: was really kind of the concern with Will Johnson and okay,
Speaker 9: can he match up against guys who are or are
Speaker 9: just straight go runners?
Speaker 3: Can he match up against guys who hit the.
Speaker 9: Double move really well? At the professional level. Those are
Speaker 9: going to be worries that you've got to live with.
Speaker 9: So that brings into I think the element of, Okay,
Speaker 9: what scheme does he fit in best? Right, we think
Speaker 9: about what Matt Aberfluss does. It's pretty zone heavy. I
Speaker 9: think that's a solid fit for Will Johnson and what
Speaker 9: he'll be able to do. They ran a lot of
Speaker 9: it at Michigan. It's an NFL style defense that they
Speaker 9: ran at Michigan. So you know, in a scheme like that,
Speaker 9: I could see Will Johnson having success.
Speaker 3: But then you think about, like you.
Speaker 9: Mentioned Walchuk, the lower body extremities, Brian hit the nail
Speaker 9: and head from a scouting perspective, so all things that
Speaker 9: you've got to consider. But I haven't moved him. I
Speaker 9: think he's a really good player. If we're talking tape alone.
Speaker 9: I mean, you look back even at the freshman tape
Speaker 9: from twenty twenty two. Obviously he's very fresh back then,
Speaker 9: but he's one of the best corners in the country,
Speaker 9: and I don't think he fell off too much in
Speaker 9: terms of being one of the best in college football
Speaker 9: from there on out. I think it was just the
Speaker 9: injuries that kind of lingered on him. You think about
Speaker 9: the Washington receiver corps that they played at the National
Speaker 9: Championship Game that you talked about three NFL draft picks
Speaker 9: and you know, a first round quarterback. He was able
Speaker 9: to shut it down with that great Michigan defense. They
Speaker 9: had a great secondary. Two guys like Mikey sand are
Speaker 9: still out there, but he's a good player. It's just
Speaker 9: going to be one of those things where, like like
Speaker 9: Brian said, you got a lot of questions and somebody's
Speaker 9: gonna have to take a chance and it's going to
Speaker 9: be one of those that could make or break you.
Speaker 4: How many corners do you guys have above Johnson?
Speaker 3: I think four four. I've got Hunter, Baron and Morrison
Speaker 3: in front. Yeah, I've got Hunter, Baron, Revel and Morrison.
Speaker 8: Gotcha, I've got actually I take the back. I got
Speaker 8: three because I have Hunters of wide receiver. Yeah, I
Speaker 8: got three. I've got two, gotcha?
Speaker 3: I had yeah a little high.
Speaker 6: I think it's just going to be a fascinating situation
Speaker 6: on draft Day. You're gonna see a team fall in
Speaker 6: love with Will Johnson and take him high. I mean,
Speaker 6: you look at a team like Miami, right they just
Speaker 6: put Jalen Ramsey on the trade market. They could be
Speaker 6: potentially looking for a corner in that first round. You
Speaker 6: look at the Raiders, maybe they're looking for a trade
Speaker 6: back opportunity so that they can draft draft a corner
Speaker 6: in the first round. Their cornerback room looks awful, and
Speaker 6: so you know, is it gonna be Barren, Is it
Speaker 6: gonna be Johnson? Will Harriston sneak up in there, Will
Speaker 6: Trey Ono sneak up in there? Revel is someone going
Speaker 6: to swing on him in the first round. I think
Speaker 6: there's a if you're a zone defense and play majority zone,
Speaker 6: you're a top five in the league as far as
Speaker 6: zone usage, then yeah, I think it's I think it's
Speaker 6: worth taking the shot on Will Johnson, But I'm not
Speaker 6: getting there personally until I'm at pick twenty twenty five,
Speaker 6: right around where Brian has him on his board.
Speaker 4: I feel the same way, yeah, and feel much.
Speaker 3: Better trade back. He is an outstanding player and there's
Speaker 3: no question.
Speaker 8: I mean, and I'm not I could say the arguments
Speaker 8: that I have for him being taken at twelve is
Speaker 8: I just have better players in my mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's my evaluation.
Speaker 8: And these gentlemen around the table have done their evaluations
Speaker 8: as well. You know, they they maybe they have guys
Speaker 8: above him. Everybody's board is a little bit different when
Speaker 8: it comes to this stuff, you know, and yeah, there's
Speaker 8: going to be the ultimately what matters that what's done
Speaker 8: across the hall. If you're a Dallas Cowboys fan, you
Speaker 8: know what these guys see in the player. Are they
Speaker 8: comfortable go ahead and not having to forty? Are they
Speaker 8: are they comfortable not having the complete picture with some
Speaker 8: of the other corners that they have where they do have. Okay,
Speaker 8: you're just asking for okay, confirm for me whether your
Speaker 8: speed is good enough or not. You know, That's that's
Speaker 8: all I'm asking. And you know, there's there's there's guys, and.
Speaker 3: We're going to see it now more and more.
Speaker 8: And an old guy like me who's been in the
Speaker 8: scouting world for a long time, this is troubling. It's harder.
Speaker 8: It's about time for me to go to the lake
Speaker 8: House and not worry about this anymore. Because I lived
Speaker 8: in an era where numbers were important to me. It
Speaker 8: was before metrics and before you know, all these things
Speaker 8: that people do. The numbers from the combine, the numbers
Speaker 8: of the pro days. Never have I seen guys say, hey,
Speaker 8: I'm not going to work out it in any fine,
Speaker 8: I'll catch you in ann Arbor, Michigan for a workout
Speaker 8: and then you do two things and drills. I just
Speaker 8: wasted my time going in ann Arbor, Michigan. But I
Speaker 8: did figure out those Your short shuttle times not very good,
Speaker 8: you know, and you're a tall guy.
Speaker 3: There might be some questions.
Speaker 8: You're like in the thirteen percentile when it comes to
Speaker 8: corners with that shuttle time. Yeh, do you not have quickness?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 8: Is this something? Did I see this on tape? So
Speaker 8: I think there's some teams. To me, Nick's right, there
Speaker 8: are going to be some teams that go ahead and
Speaker 8: just roll the dice and say, you know what, we
Speaker 8: feel good enough about the player and going forward here.
Speaker 8: You know, I'm not going to ding him for not
Speaker 8: running because, like I said, I'm keeping him in the
Speaker 8: in the exact same spot.
Speaker 3: I just would have liked a more complete picture.
Speaker 7: I'm with you, though, Tommy, I do think he's more
Speaker 7: scheme specific. We saw Joey Porter Junior, who I think
Speaker 7: we were all looking a couple of years ago, like
Speaker 7: why in the world is this guy falling? I had
Speaker 7: him as the best corner for me. He ends up
Speaker 7: going in the second round. We find out afterwards teams
Speaker 7: thought he was scheme specific, so the Steelers end up
Speaker 7: getting an absolute steal. I think, now you've got to
Speaker 7: look at the new defense here, and you're right, like
Speaker 7: maybe Flus looks at him and says, hey, that's more
Speaker 7: of a fit for what I want to do, Whereas
Speaker 7: I do think previously, if Al Harris was still in
Speaker 7: the building, I look at Revel from East Carolina and
Speaker 7: think that's a corner that I think Al.
Speaker 3: Harris would have absolutely loved. Sure with the.
Speaker 7: Size, the physicality that he would play with, but off
Speaker 7: coverage more of his own long limbed guy and Will
Speaker 7: Johnson maybe he fits the profile of what the Cowboys
Speaker 7: would like to do a little bit more. And they
Speaker 7: do an excellent job with their scouting department talking with
Speaker 7: the coaching staff figuring out, Okay, what do you want?
Speaker 7: What can I get for you to be able to succeed?
Speaker 7: So maybe there is a marriage there that they like
Speaker 7: more than we do.
Speaker 2: And it goes back to what Brian has talked about
Speaker 2: on the show a couple episodes back, is how succinct
Speaker 2: is that at the moment because it's a new coaching staff,
Speaker 2: it's a new group, and you're trying to mesh that
Speaker 2: all together over the co of a couple of months
Speaker 2: to try and figure it out and try and get
Speaker 2: to that point. I don't know if it's a perfect
Speaker 2: marriage right off the top, but everybody's board as different
Speaker 2: as we're talking about. Yeah, and I think you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to try and find some level of consistency on
Speaker 2: a guy like Johnson, and it's tougher to do that
Speaker 2: without the numbers.
Speaker 3: And that's what we're kind of elluding.
Speaker 8: Well, there's guys in this draft that have not run.
Speaker 8: I mean, there's so many of them, and you know,
Speaker 8: and and so you know, we're just we're focusing on
Speaker 8: Johnson right now because if you're a Cowboy fan, you.
Speaker 3: Your corner is one of your needs.
Speaker 8: You're you're looking at your you're looking at your depth
Speaker 8: chart and and if you watch our shows on this
Speaker 8: on this platform, we talk about the different positions and
Speaker 8: stuff in corners, definitely.
Speaker 3: One of them.
Speaker 8: You know, you could see potentially a corner going at
Speaker 8: forty four here. You know there there are there are
Speaker 8: opportunities for the corner to be to be selected here,
Speaker 8: like I say this, this guy is a very, very
Speaker 8: good football player. I just wish we would have had
Speaker 8: the complete package on him to know exactly as comparing
Speaker 8: him to maybe some guys that we've talked about have
Speaker 8: played before that have had some success or failed in
Speaker 8: the process.
Speaker 2: Now, kind of keeping to the same topic of conversation,
Speaker 2: but switching positions when you mentioned everybody's board is different,
Speaker 2: Bobby Belt, let us know in our group message that
Speaker 2: Milroe Jaln Milroe, quarterback from Alabama and Jackson Dart quarterback
Speaker 2: from Ole Miss will both be attending the draft. We
Speaker 2: kind of talked about that a little bit last week,
Speaker 2: but with both of those in attendance, and I guess
Speaker 2: now the rumor is starting to get out there too
Speaker 2: that hey, be careful. Who was it that had that
Speaker 2: quote be careful when it comes to sand This is
Speaker 2: not a good quarters.
Speaker 3: So it was Snyder.
Speaker 2: John Snyder comes out and says, be careful when you're
Speaker 2: talking about these quarterbacks and it's not a good draft
Speaker 2: for quarterbacks. Is this something we need to keep in
Speaker 2: mind whenever we get to the top of the NFL
Speaker 2: Draft on Thursday and get to the point where, hey,
Speaker 2: we've thought Milroe and Dark may be slipping and they
Speaker 2: may not be there for the second third round, or
Speaker 2: is this something that they may slip into that first
Speaker 2: round and QUARTERB still going to be viewed very highly.
Speaker 9: I know that you know that draft invite doesn't always
Speaker 9: necessarily mean that they're going to be a first round pick,
Speaker 9: But Jalen Milroe, Man, I've got him as.
Speaker 3: QB four for me.
Speaker 9: Wow, I think this is an incredibly high upside player.
Speaker 9: I know everybody is very much across the board on him.
Speaker 9: I think this is a guy who is what a
Speaker 9: lot of people thought Anthony Richardson was coming out of
Speaker 9: college in terms of what he could do with his legs.
Speaker 9: But Milroe is just completely different and he's a game
Speaker 9: changer in what he can do with a rushing ability.
Speaker 9: You're not going to see a guy six twenty pounds
Speaker 9: that's going to be able to move like he does,
Speaker 9: and that's going to change an offense, especially in a
Speaker 9: modern day NFL, where you need to have a quarterback
Speaker 9: that can do both for the most part to be
Speaker 9: able to, you know, lead an offense down the field.
Speaker 9: You don't necessarily need a guy who runs as well
Speaker 9: as he does. But you need mobility, and Milroe gives
Speaker 9: you that. He's got a heck of an arm. His
Speaker 9: deep ball is his best attribute. Really, the part that
Speaker 9: he needs to polish up is the shorts intermediate game.
Speaker 9: How often do we say that about quarterbacks coming into
Speaker 9: the draft. So you know, you look at him and
Speaker 9: it's all things that you can fix with Jaylen Milroe,
Speaker 9: it's all things where if he gets into the right
Speaker 9: system and he develops well, like a Pittsburgh for example,
Speaker 9: you look at them at twenty one. Is that a
Speaker 9: team that Mike Tomlin could say, Okay, this is a
Speaker 9: guy that we want to build on and trust to
Speaker 9: bring our offense forward. I think Milroe would be a
Speaker 9: great fit in a place like that. I really like
Speaker 9: his game a lot.
Speaker 6: And Tomlin had dinner with Milroe in Tuscaloosa straight before
Speaker 6: their pro day. The GM was there as well. Steelers
Speaker 6: have done a lot of homework on.
Speaker 3: Will Howard, another guy that they met with.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they've they've done homework on these quarterbacks. They're in
Speaker 6: a situation where they're probably going to take a quarterback
Speaker 6: and a running back early in this draft. They're probably
Speaker 6: looking at rehauling their backfield, but Yeah, talking about Milroe,
Speaker 6: you talk about the upside for sure. I mean his athleticism.
Speaker 6: It's like Debo can sling the pill a little bit, like.
Speaker 3: That's kind of what he's built.
Speaker 6: Like, Yeah, it's a fascinating ev ow. I do wonder
Speaker 6: if someone's going to take a swing on him in
Speaker 6: the first round. I will say him getting the green
Speaker 6: room invite doesn't necessarily mean that that's going to happen, correct,
Speaker 6: But it is fascinating that he did get the green
Speaker 6: room invite. I think that probably tells us he's going
Speaker 6: to go early, second at the latest now, just because
Speaker 6: of you know, certain teams valuing this guy a little
Speaker 6: bit more than others. But it wouldn't surprise me if
Speaker 6: someone swung on this guy before a Jackson Dart or
Speaker 6: some somebody in this.
Speaker 7: Draft, because at the worst case, he's an offensive package
Speaker 7: type of weapon that you just want to be able
Speaker 7: to get on the football field and allow him to
Speaker 7: use his athleticism. He's just so frustrating, for lack of
Speaker 7: a better word, to watch because there's moments where I've
Speaker 7: totally written him off as a passer and then he
Speaker 7: makes a throw that I'm like, oh my gosh, like
Speaker 7: the half that he had against Georgia.
Speaker 3: The Georgia Georgia. Yeah, you can watch me, oh my gosh.
Speaker 8: And then you can watch him against Michigan against Wink Martindale,
Speaker 8: and Wink Martindale went after.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very confused.
Speaker 8: So it's a very very confusing evaluation there. But you know,
Speaker 8: go ahead and finish. I'm sorry, but you no.
Speaker 7: Well, I wanted to ask about the fifth year option
Speaker 7: when it comes to quarterbacks. I wonder how much teams
Speaker 7: value that when it comes to hey, do I trade
Speaker 7: back into the first round? Maybe a team like Cleveland,
Speaker 7: the Giants, the Saints, even they don't take a quarterback
Speaker 7: in the top ten, and then they're looking at the
Speaker 7: back half. Or we're picking up the phone and saying
Speaker 7: we want to move up to go get a dart.
Speaker 7: We want to move up to go get mill Row.
Speaker 7: Maybe you see a Shador. Sanders start to slide because
Speaker 7: this thing could either go on a run that could
Speaker 7: benefit the Cowboys, where maybe Tennessee takes cam Ward one.
Speaker 7: Maybe the Giants who are having a private workout with Shador,
Speaker 7: do they end up shocking us all and taking him
Speaker 7: at three? Or do the Jets end up saying we
Speaker 7: do actually fell in love with Jackson Dart. He ends
Speaker 7: up being a surprise pick like Michael Pennix Junior was
Speaker 7: a year ago. We weren't necessarily projecting him to go
Speaker 7: in the top ten. New Orleans is hunting quarterbacks. Diyan
Speaker 7: Orsini had a scoop today talking about that. But do
Speaker 7: they end up waiting? If they wait, these quarterbacks could
Speaker 7: end up falling. It could be a Will Levis like
Speaker 7: situation where they end up going the top of the
Speaker 7: second round, or maybe you do have teams wanting to
Speaker 7: secure that fifth year option they try and trade back
Speaker 7: up into the back end of the first round.
Speaker 8: I think a team that you have to kind of
Speaker 8: keep an eye on the end this draft would be
Speaker 8: the would be the Los Angeles Rams at twenty six.
Speaker 8: You've been in on and I'm a Dart I think
Speaker 8: I think that if Jackson I think if Jackson darts
Speaker 8: there for the for the Rams at twenty six, I
Speaker 8: think that's going to be their selection there. So, yeah,
Speaker 8: these quarterbacks can go, you know, anywhere. With you mentioned
Speaker 8: New Orleans the situation there, it doesn't but Pittsburgh, the Rams,
Speaker 8: I you know, I was on the podcast today with
Speaker 8: the Giants dot Com, and they kind of seem they
Speaker 8: were asking me a ton of questions about Hunter, you know,
Speaker 8: and they're asking me a ton of questions about Carter,
Speaker 8: you know, not so.
Speaker 3: Much about what the quarterbacks were.
Speaker 8: So, you know, it kind of got that vibe that
Speaker 8: maybe they they think that they're going to take either
Speaker 8: Hunter or Carter at three and then kind of worry
Speaker 8: about the quarterback at the top of the second round.
Speaker 8: Is you know how how that I think that might
Speaker 8: play out for them.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting too, because you're talking about the Steelers
Speaker 2: who are in the mid twenties, You've got the or
Speaker 2: the early twenties, you got the Rams that are in
Speaker 2: the mid twenties. If you're talking about trade partners too, right,
Speaker 2: that might be a little far for Dallas to pop
Speaker 2: back and to keep going backwards. But if they're trying
Speaker 2: to come up and get a quarterback and they're trying
Speaker 2: to maybe leap over each other in order to do so,
Speaker 2: that's where you can maybe find a dance partner. And
Speaker 2: there's the premium, the premium pick that you would need
Speaker 2: to get the right compensation. Because we've talked about the
Speaker 2: possibility of not getting the right compensation. It all depends
Speaker 2: on how these guys view quarterbacks, and how these teams
Speaker 2: look at quarterbacks and how they see how these prospects
Speaker 2: could possibly fit with their franchise.
Speaker 3: How far.
Speaker 8: If you're in the back of the draft, you think
Speaker 8: you have to go And I'm not saying I don't
Speaker 8: think you have to go to twelve. I mean I
Speaker 8: think you have to get ahead of the Colts. Sure,
Speaker 8: So to me, then the first team I would call
Speaker 8: would be Miami. That's the team that I would call.
Speaker 8: I'd call Chris Greer. You know, you know Dallas thirteen. Yeah,
Speaker 8: you know they're right behind Dallas there. So I just
Speaker 8: make sure that I get ahead of if I could
Speaker 8: get ahead of Indy in case, if you get good
Speaker 8: intelligence that tells you that Indy is going to take
Speaker 8: a quarterback here, you know, And really, let's be honest,
Speaker 8: Chris Ballard is fighting for his job up there. He
Speaker 8: might not have another opportunity to draft again. This might
Speaker 8: be his last one. He's got to go get players
Speaker 8: that can help him win. Can he develop a quarterback.
Speaker 8: He's tried to draft a quarterback before and it hasn't
Speaker 8: worked there, So you know they might be in a
Speaker 8: situation right now where he needs playmakers there to try
Speaker 8: and win football games, not developing quarterbacks. Maybe try and
Speaker 8: develop the one he's got. But I would I would
Speaker 8: say that you know, you're pretty sure that Dallas is
Speaker 8: not going to take one, Yeah, but if you can,
Speaker 8: you know, can you get Miami convinced? And see, this
Speaker 8: is where you have a deal where you say, who's
Speaker 8: going to offer me the better deal to move up
Speaker 8: with Dallas at twelve? Or would Miami at thirteen offer
Speaker 8: me the better deal and then you just take one
Speaker 8: or the other, whichever one you have to pay the
Speaker 8: least amount to go up and get.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they could look at Cincinnati at seventeen with Seattle
Speaker 7: basically saying, hey, maybe we do kind of like some
Speaker 7: of the quarterbacks in this draft classes John Snyder throw
Speaker 7: us a curve ball. Pittsburgh obviously at twenty one. Is
Speaker 7: Sean Payton willing to wheel and deal a little bit
Speaker 7: at twenty there with Denver and then you mentioned the
Speaker 7: Chargers or excuse me, the Rams. That is a name,
Speaker 7: and I love Jackson Dart. Like if you were to
Speaker 7: go to Sean McVay and the Rams, that would be
Speaker 7: a perfect fit. You city here behind Matthew Stafford and
Speaker 7: then he's probably ready to take the keys for the
Speaker 7: car there.
Speaker 3: That'd be a lot of fun.
Speaker 7: So those were just kind of be some landing spots
Speaker 7: I try and jump d maybe of those teams if
Speaker 7: I wanted to move up and go secure that quarterback.
Speaker 2: Always the biggest wild card is the quarterback position in
Speaker 2: the NFL Draft. It's the hardest one to scout and
Speaker 2: it's one of the toughest ones to get right at
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Speaker 2: What is one realistic player that if you could guarantee
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Speaker 2: All right, Brady L on Twitter wants to know if
Speaker 2: you could guarantee one realistic player in any round that
Speaker 2: would end up a cowboy?
Speaker 3: Who would it be?
Speaker 2: Who would be that one player that you would love
Speaker 2: to have? Could be any round, could be first round,
Speaker 2: second round, third.
Speaker 4: Round that I would love to have her that I
Speaker 4: think is most realistic.
Speaker 2: No, that you would love to have if you could
Speaker 2: guarantee it, stamp it. Ok he's a cowboy?
Speaker 3: Who is it? It would be your opinion, not really,
Speaker 3: It's just got to be within reason.
Speaker 2: You can't say Travis Hunter to the Cowboys because I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's to totally Travis Hunner to.
Speaker 3: The County Okay.
Speaker 7: I think Ashton genty Boise stating that he's pretty good
Speaker 7: run the card in.
Speaker 6: I think a fun one would be considering positional value
Speaker 6: and getting this you need this position in this draft,
Speaker 6: I said, getting this position in the third round I
Speaker 6: think could work out for you. Base Shell Tutton out
Speaker 6: of Virginia Tech. I think that would just be a
Speaker 6: fun one that I think could work on multiple different levels.
Speaker 6: You know, your first and second round you can go
Speaker 6: at receiver, slash corner. If maybe you want to go
Speaker 6: edge in those first two rounds, that's there as well,
Speaker 6: but you don't have to address the running back position
Speaker 6: until that seventy six spot. I think Tutten is a
Speaker 6: guy that would be there at seventy six. He's got
Speaker 6: the home run speed. We've talked about him on the
Speaker 6: show five nine to two oh nine. He's got the
Speaker 6: home run speed, and he's a physical runner that initiates contact,
Speaker 6: broken tackles all over the place, one of the best
Speaker 6: in the class when it comes to yards after contact.
Speaker 6: I think it would be an incredible pairing with Javonte Williams.
Speaker 6: And if you want to find a game where Tutton
Speaker 6: is playing at his best, go watch the Boston College
Speaker 6: tape from last year and he can get it done
Speaker 6: out of the backfield a little bit too. But I
Speaker 6: think this would be your early down guy that can,
Speaker 6: you know, create those home run plays that you haven't
Speaker 6: had since Tony Pollard before his leg injury.
Speaker 4: It would be a fun one in my eyes.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna go with a different running back earlier in
Speaker 9: a round two I'm gonna go Travon Henderson from Ohio State.
Speaker 9: This is a guy you can play on all three downs.
Speaker 9: He has the home run speed and that's everything that
Speaker 9: you're looking for in a running back when you look
Speaker 9: at the complete package, Henderson gives you everything. He can
Speaker 9: catch out of the backfield. He's an excellent locker room presence.
Speaker 9: That's something that scouts and NFL folks have been super
Speaker 9: high on with him.
Speaker 3: And then his speed is a game changer.
Speaker 9: Every year at Ohio State that he was healthy, he
Speaker 9: was extremely productive thousand yard rushing season, even though he
Speaker 9: was splitting carries with Quinn Shawn Judkins this year. Two
Speaker 9: at just an excellent all round player who you can
Speaker 9: still mix in Javonte Williams and Miles Sanders to take
Speaker 9: some weight off of his back. But you just look
Speaker 9: at what he's able to do for you on first, second,
Speaker 9: and third down. This is a guy that you can
Speaker 9: lean on. It's a guy that can fit anywhere in
Speaker 9: this offense and he can do it all for you
Speaker 9: in the running game and out of the backfield as well.
Speaker 9: I love Trayvon Henderson. I think people in the NFL
Speaker 9: are trying to like him.
Speaker 3: Too.
Speaker 9: Don't be surprised if he goes either late in the
Speaker 9: first round or early in the second.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised we get three first round running
Speaker 7: backs if him and Hampton snuck into the back end
Speaker 7: of the first round. There, I guess al Rock with
Speaker 7: a defensive lineman, and I've talked about him before on
Speaker 7: the show, but I'll go Alfred Collins out of Texas,
Speaker 7: and I got into a battle with vouch here on him,
Speaker 7: but I love him and you might have to take
Speaker 7: him at forty four. I don't know if he's gonna
Speaker 7: make it to seventy six, but I think he fits
Speaker 7: exactly what they need in terms of being a big,
Speaker 7: wide bodied run defender. But I think he's slippery as
Speaker 7: a pass rusher. I don't think he's getting enough credit
Speaker 7: for what he can do being able to push the pocket,
Speaker 7: get up field, he understands leverage, He's strong and disruptive.
Speaker 3: To push the pocket. He works the stunts well.
Speaker 7: I love him, and I think just one year starter
Speaker 7: at Texas because he had to play behind an absolute
Speaker 7: stud Muffin Into and Andre Sweat the year before, who's
Speaker 7: been pretty good at Tennessee and then of course Byron
Speaker 7: Murphy who ended up being a first round pick going
Speaker 7: to the Seattle Seahawks. But I like Alfred Collins and
Speaker 7: I think his best football is ahead of him. He's
Speaker 7: a player at the Cowboys obviously have met with I
Speaker 7: know there seems to be interest there, So a realistic
Speaker 7: option that I would also love would be Alfred Collins
Speaker 7: out of Texas.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm kind of caught between two guys, but I'll
Speaker 8: go with the one that I've loved really all along,
Speaker 8: Noel Williams from California, the corner there at six foot
Speaker 8: one ninety nine. I was thinking about the with Carson
Speaker 8: Swimming or two from U. C.
Speaker 5: L A.
Speaker 8: But I'm gonna I'm gonna go for the probably the
Speaker 8: bigger need right now. I think linebacker still is in need,
Speaker 8: don't get me wrong, but I'm gonna go with Noel Williams.
Speaker 8: Like I said, I just love the way this this
Speaker 8: kid competes. He can jam you. He does a really
Speaker 8: good job of staying connected. He's he's got physicality, He's
Speaker 8: not afraid of mixing it up, he doesn't shy away
Speaker 8: from contact. I think you need an edge of physicality
Speaker 8: for this for this position, and and he does a
Speaker 8: great job when the ball is in the air, it's his.
Speaker 8: He puts himself in position to make plays. This guy's
Speaker 8: a bully, uh, you know, with the way that he
Speaker 8: goes about his his his game. He plays down hill,
Speaker 8: there's a burst to him. He's got deep speed to
Speaker 8: carry routes as you can see here from the clips
Speaker 8: he's and he returns punts.
Speaker 3: As you see.
Speaker 8: And he's just got that ability when you when you
Speaker 8: play him, like when he goes on to the field,
Speaker 8: he does everything in his power to try and win
Speaker 8: every single snap. I think he will be a guy
Speaker 8: that might be available for you there in the third round.
Speaker 8: I think maybe some other teams are looking at him.
Speaker 8: Maybe he will go a little bit higher than that.
Speaker 8: But man, he is a tremendous player and he fits
Speaker 8: a really a need here for this organization.
Speaker 7: If you had to go, no Williams or Parish from
Speaker 7: k State, I think and I love Parish as the
Speaker 7: nickel player.
Speaker 8: I'm taking this kid right here. I think that I
Speaker 8: think I could do. I think I could do.
Speaker 3: A lot more with him.
Speaker 8: I know, I know the nickel stuff is important, but
Speaker 8: if if I had this kid on the outside, I
Speaker 8: think I could play I think I could play our
Speaker 8: guy inside that Bland. Yeah, so I would kind of
Speaker 8: that's my that would be my plan. But Parish is
Speaker 8: a heck of a player, don't get me wrong about
Speaker 8: that either.
Speaker 6: Yeah, former receiver in high school and he uses those
Speaker 6: ball skills. Yes, and the secondary had seven interceptions last year. Also,
Speaker 6: he's an aux Star native.
Speaker 3: So yeah, he is to be a homecoming for him
Speaker 3: for training game some ways.
Speaker 2: Familiarity with him playing on those fields when he grew
Speaker 2: playing out at the river.
Speaker 4: Ridge Sports Complex, dodging the Gophers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all the time. He does a load of deron
Speaker 3: Bland to his game. He does Williams.
Speaker 2: And when you look at the first two rounds of cornerbacks,
Speaker 2: I think there are options there. If you don't come
Speaker 2: out of the first two rounds with a corner and
Speaker 2: he's sitting there at seventy six, I think that would
Speaker 2: be an awesome option.
Speaker 7: There's several corners I think in round three that I'm
Speaker 7: pretty excited about. Riley from Louisville would be an interesting
Speaker 7: one that discussed as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the name that I had was a corner in
Speaker 2: the second was Maxwell Harriston from Kentucky. If he ends
Speaker 2: up following the forty four Knicks trying to give him
Speaker 2: away in the first round.
Speaker 3: He's a tremendous athlete. He might end a great player.
Speaker 2: Great player, you're talking about a guy who has Deron
Speaker 2: Bland tendencies. He had five interceptions, which five interceptions which
Speaker 2: led the sec. Three of those were returned for touchdowns,
Speaker 2: So he's got the same kind of I think he's
Speaker 2: your Jordan Lewis replacement with the Doron Bland interception in
Speaker 2: ball hawking mentality, had success playing both man and zone coverage,
Speaker 2: fluid movement. He was great at the Senior Bowl. Knows
Speaker 2: for the football. You can tell he watches a ton
Speaker 2: of film. He's got a good knowledge for the game.
Speaker 2: A little bit light in some places. Not a sure
Speaker 2: tackler at times. I thought that was where he probably
Speaker 2: lacked the most. But his production stood out and the
Speaker 2: way that he kind of led that Kentucky defense was impressive,
Speaker 2: and I think he would be an incredible pick for
Speaker 2: the Cowboys if he fell to forty four. Here's one
Speaker 2: of the touchdowns that he ended up returning that was
Speaker 2: pretty pitch and catch at that point, but I think
Speaker 2: he's your Jordan Lewis replacement with Deron Bland upside too,
Speaker 2: which would be really fun overall.
Speaker 6: And I think he's a guy you could trust on
Speaker 6: the outside until Trevon Diggs.
Speaker 7: He's got good size, his ability to track the ball
Speaker 7: is pretty rare.
Speaker 2: And versatility too, which you can kind of bank on
Speaker 2: one way or the other. All right, Tyler wants to
Speaker 2: know would you rather in your first three round picks?
Speaker 2: Would you rather draft one All Pro caliber player and
Speaker 2: two role slash backup players in your first three selections?
Speaker 2: So one All Pro two role players or would you
Speaker 2: rather gain three solid starters for the foreseeable future?
Speaker 4: Three solid stars?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: This team, there's no doubt what positions the All Pro player?
Speaker 2: I mean he doesn't specify, but just let's play.
Speaker 4: Let's go corner?
Speaker 7: Sure, yep for that, No, not so not compared to
Speaker 7: what about Okay, what about wide receiver?
Speaker 8: Do you feel like do you feel like that you
Speaker 8: could beat Philadelphia with three solid starters?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that's going to help you out a lot.
Speaker 4: Again, depends on where the positions are.
Speaker 8: That's why I asked, Yeah, what if the All pros
Speaker 8: and wide receiver. That's what I'm saying, if you get
Speaker 8: a guy to All Pro wide receivers because the strength
Speaker 8: of the Philadelphia Eagles, in my opinion, is the secondary
Speaker 8: for this. It is with the way that they got
Speaker 8: you know, with Mitchell. Yeah, and they and they got
Speaker 8: rid of the one guy that's really They've got rid
Speaker 8: of a couple of guys, you know, Gardner Johnson. They
Speaker 8: you know, they got rid of a couple of problems.
Speaker 8: They're gonna probably get better there.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: I was just wondering, like I say, I I think
Speaker 8: anytime you have an All Pro player that you know,
Speaker 8: somebody that could tilt the field in your direction. The
Speaker 8: three solid starters, three solid starters, to me, is is
Speaker 8: like some of the guys that you've had here, like
Speaker 8: Chauncey Golston.
Speaker 3: It's three solid starters, isn't it.
Speaker 7: M I mean, he didn't he didn't really start for
Speaker 7: it until this year, and it was injury related.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I call solid.
Speaker 7: I think it'd be like Anthony Hitchins would get you
Speaker 7: a solid star.
Speaker 8: Give me, give me, give me a three, give me
Speaker 8: give me a give me a starter, then that a
Speaker 8: capable starter or whatever.
Speaker 4: You're solid starter, looking like a Jake Ferguson type.
Speaker 3: That's a solid solid starter.
Speaker 4: Okay, Uh, Cooper bbe solid starter?
Speaker 3: Well, now come on, he's got all Pro potential.
Speaker 4: Uh that's but that's kind of the.
Speaker 2: Even Ferguson made a Pro Bowl in twenty three, so
Speaker 2: that's I mean, that's even going high end of a
Speaker 2: solid starter. If you could get three Jake Ferguson's like
Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis solid starter.
Speaker 8: Or get a I just don't know. I just don't
Speaker 8: know if you could beat teams. I don't think you
Speaker 8: could beat the Eagles and the Detroit Lions, you know,
Speaker 8: some of these teams with just solid starters.
Speaker 7: I just don't think, Well, you've got the two all
Speaker 7: Pro corners and has that worked well?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: They've barely been healthy now.
Speaker 3: And I just think this team needs just how they build.
Speaker 7: I think I just need the starters to be able
Speaker 7: to fill out the rocks.
Speaker 3: They're good at getting solid starters. Yeah, they're good. I
Speaker 3: hear you.
Speaker 8: They're good at that. When this team was really when
Speaker 8: when they're winning twelve games, what they do they went
Speaker 8: out they had all pro, they had all pro guards.
Speaker 8: You know, at all you know they had all pro players.
Speaker 8: That that to me, that that makes a difference in
Speaker 8: and I think in this day and age, solid starters,
Speaker 8: great depth, great you know, gets you nine ten wins? Yeah,
Speaker 8: you know, But give me the all pros.
Speaker 2: It is a good question because you can look at
Speaker 2: it either way, and there's a good chance that one
Speaker 2: or the other happens, or that neither happens.
Speaker 3: And it ends up being a complete wash.
Speaker 2: All right, all's Waldo wants to know, given that there
Speaker 2: are four big needs, and he listed his four big
Speaker 2: needs as wide receiver, running back, corner, and one tech.
Speaker 2: Would you raither use that fifth round pick the first one,
Speaker 2: the first fifth round pick were traded for an established
Speaker 2: player at one of those positions. Since you can take
Speaker 2: three of those positions in the first three rounds and
Speaker 2: then you first, I'd like to.
Speaker 8: Know from you guys real quick, if you can do it.
Speaker 8: You've got the three that he named, the four positions
Speaker 8: he named, give me the positions you would eliminate that
Speaker 8: you can't take because you've only got you've got, You've
Speaker 8: got he's got four positions, but you have three premium
Speaker 8: picks and you got three picks eliminate one.
Speaker 3: Probably those those wide receiver, corner, defensive tackle, one technique,
Speaker 3: and running back.
Speaker 6: Correct, I'd probably eliminate one tech, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 6: I'm comfortable at one tech.
Speaker 2: I would agree with that I would take because I
Speaker 2: would rather have a receiver, running.
Speaker 3: Back, corner. Yeah. I think I'm with you, guys, But man,
Speaker 3: I I think they need a one tech.
Speaker 7: I really really do.
Speaker 6: But I would say in this scenario, if you're trying
Speaker 6: to trade a fifth round pick for an established veteran
Speaker 6: that already exists out there, you'd probably have a better
Speaker 6: chance of getting a legitimate receiver with the round pick
Speaker 6: than you would any of those other positions.
Speaker 3: Gave up before. And we're arguing about Mingo right now?
Speaker 6: Yeah, no kidding, right, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 6: already did that, Oswaldo.
Speaker 8: We can answer this question. I was just curious of
Speaker 8: which position you guys would say. I got four I
Speaker 8: got four needs, and I've got only three spots.
Speaker 3: Which one are you going to eliminate?
Speaker 9: I think one, because even if you you need those
Speaker 9: three other positions, more I think is one and two.
Speaker 9: I think this defensive tackle class is deep enough to
Speaker 9: where if you can't use that fifth to trade for
Speaker 9: an instance, it's pretty deep.
Speaker 3: That's true. But is it deep?
Speaker 9: And the fifth I'm not saying it's not. I'm just
Speaker 9: saying I know you're not, but I'm just telling you
Speaker 9: what you're saying. I think though, for what the Cowboys need,
Speaker 9: just because you still have whether people like it or not,
Speaker 9: you still have Massi Smith there, who who's an option
Speaker 9: for you. He needs to take the next step, but
Speaker 9: he's still there. And I think that this class is
Speaker 9: deep enough and they've made the moves in free agency
Speaker 9: enough to where that's the room that you look at
Speaker 9: and say, Okay, this is maybe one that we can
Speaker 9: if we decide to not trade for established player or
Speaker 9: even an earlier pick, you think about if they package
Speaker 9: maybe some picks to get back on the fourth round
Speaker 9: or something like that.
Speaker 3: I think that would be the spot.
Speaker 8: Is there any chance that they could go and not
Speaker 8: draft a of the four and eliminated a wide receiver?
Speaker 8: Say that again, eliminate a wide receiver? Can you eliminate
Speaker 8: of the four? In good conscious? Can you eliminate the
Speaker 8: wide receiver of the four?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 3: I mean it's the momentum is from what they have
Speaker 3: currently on the roster.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I mean it seems like that could be the pick
Speaker 3: at twelve right now.
Speaker 7: So if you go from like possibly taking a wide
Speaker 7: receiver in the first round, I don't think that's going
Speaker 7: to be eliminated in the first three rounds.
Speaker 2: Well, it goes back to the conversation that I think
Speaker 2: we'll get deeper into this on Thursday, when is the
Speaker 2: latest you can take a wide receiver that you automatically
Speaker 2: feels better than Jalen Tolbert and come see that and mingo,
Speaker 2: they're going to give a stat where do you feel
Speaker 2: like there is a guy that's better than those guys
Speaker 2: right now? Because right now you might have a first
Speaker 2: or a second round pick that's able to come in
Speaker 2: and immediately be that number two to see Lamb. But
Speaker 2: outside of that, you don't take one of the first
Speaker 2: two rounds. It's not like corner where there's a Noel
Speaker 2: Williams sitting there and he could possibly be a starting
Speaker 2: caliber player right off the bat. I don't think I
Speaker 2: feel comfortable at wide receiver past forty four.
Speaker 3: At what we need that do? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think if you're not just looking for a dude,
Speaker 2: you've got a bunch of dudes being a toldber Turpin,
Speaker 2: you got a couple guys there, but I need a
Speaker 2: guy that's going to come in and immediately be a
Speaker 2: starter at wide receiver. And if you don't get one
Speaker 2: at at twelve or at forty four, I don't think
Speaker 2: seventy six is going to give that to you.
Speaker 7: So you want to be able to pencil and this
Speaker 7: is my wide receiver two going into training camps. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and I hear what you're saying, and I think I think,
Speaker 7: just looking at my stack, defensive tackle would be the
Speaker 7: one that I'd wait on because I think in the
Speaker 7: fifth round I feel better about the D tackles than
Speaker 7: I do about any of those other positions. I mean,
Speaker 7: could we end up being able to get a Horde
Speaker 7: Lee from from Boston College. Could he end up being there?
Speaker 7: Could JJ Pageese at Ole Miss be a guy that
Speaker 7: hangs around a little bit and he's kind of starabouts
Speaker 7: from Georgia yet three h nine, but he's a he's
Speaker 7: a wide bar either way. They need defensive they need
Speaker 7: interior help. So I mean there's just a lot CJ.
Speaker 7: West see a guy that could can maybe be there
Speaker 7: for you, I'd be the fifth. Yeah, if he's there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, CJ.
Speaker 4: West getting a lot of third round love.
Speaker 8: Get ready, guys, when we're sitting in the fourth round
Speaker 8: without a pick, get ready for the run. Get ready
Speaker 8: for the run that we observed last year at running
Speaker 8: back on these three hundred and twenty pounds defensive tackles
Speaker 8: and you can see it.
Speaker 3: And you know what.
Speaker 8: And I was on with a game with the Giants
Speaker 8: on their Probably they're looking for defensive tackle help. Believe
Speaker 8: it or not, they have one of the best one
Speaker 8: techniques in the league. They're looking for a one technique
Speaker 8: and they're looking for a three technique. They need to
Speaker 8: get better. The Giants might start the run in the
Speaker 8: second round, you know something, Keep an eye on there.
Speaker 2: Votch is in our YouTube chat, by the way, and
Speaker 2: he says, are taking over Twitter on the twenty and
Speaker 2: he's not even here, but he said running back, wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, Yeah, running back, wide receiver, defensive tackle, so
Speaker 2: one tech. In this conversation, who's playing corner for you? Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's my question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, where are you playing?
Speaker 2: Who's If you can trade a fifth round pick, go
Speaker 2: get a starting corner. I don't know if that's super available.
Speaker 2: Teams aren't just shipping off starting cornerbacks out there. I
Speaker 2: think it's more likely you could trade for a wide
Speaker 2: receiver two and draft.
Speaker 3: Those other three positions.
Speaker 2: But if we're just eliminating a position, I don't know
Speaker 2: how you can look at wide receiver, running back, in corner.
Speaker 3: And not use those. And you get a guy in
Speaker 3: Miami all of a sudden he wants to be traded. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the interesting nick.
Speaker 8: In your fourth round, give me a guy, a wide
Speaker 8: receiver that might be in the fifth round. Wide receiver,
Speaker 8: a fourth round on your board, a fourth a fourth
Speaker 8: round wide receiver, a fourth round wide receiver you think
Speaker 8: might slide into the fifth because you might have him
Speaker 8: a little higher than everybody else.
Speaker 4: Uh, Dante Thornton Junior out of Tennessee.
Speaker 3: You go, there's a guy, a big guy that can fly.
Speaker 3: I got him in the fifth, six, five, fifteen.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, and we all know about Tennessee receivers.
Speaker 8: We all understand that they're vertical game. They route trees.
Speaker 8: Not great that kid makes plays, though he does.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like that? Do you feel like that?
Speaker 8: You know, do you feel like and I mentioned wide
Speaker 8: receiver again, do you feel good enough you have him
Speaker 8: would you like to pick him if you didn't pick
Speaker 8: a wide receiver in the first, of the second or
Speaker 8: the third, would you feel good about him picking him
Speaker 8: in the fifth.
Speaker 6: To be my wide receiver two on this team. I
Speaker 6: mean it would be I wouldn't feel good about it, No,
Speaker 6: but it's what you would have to do. I six',
Speaker 6: five two oh. Five he certainly got the, size big play.
Speaker 6: Machine he led THE fbs and yards per reception last.
Speaker 6: YEAR i put in my notes as, basically IF dk
Speaker 6: metcalf could just run go, balls, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3: He can only want, catches slants and.
Speaker 4: Stuff, yeah he, does he.
Speaker 6: Does it's just it's the it's it's the over the
Speaker 6: top stuff that, really it's the short intermediate game he.
Speaker 4: Has, No, no he didn't have a lot of love.
Speaker 3: There he's a little bit of a one pony for.
Speaker 3: Me they don't run a lot of.
Speaker 8: ROUTES i Think tennessee we know this about When, yeah
Speaker 8: With hyatt and guys like, that it was a lot
Speaker 8: a lot of this, game you, Know AND i don't,
Speaker 8: know man that that, size that. Speed if you get
Speaker 8: him IN i mean to, me when you watch him
Speaker 8: run routes AND i like where you have the. Kid
Speaker 8: by the, Way i'm just saying when you watch him,
Speaker 8: play to, me if somebody got somebody like that and
Speaker 8: and coached him to the point where he can do
Speaker 8: more stuff with the underneath things and stuff with his,
Speaker 8: speed he should be able to scare corners to, death
Speaker 8: much like What golden does In. Texas when you get
Speaker 8: off coverage and that guy's flying at, you and you,
Speaker 8: know damn good and, well this kid's gonna run four
Speaker 8: three and run.
Speaker 3: Right by you like this highlight right.
Speaker 8: There you know you're Gonna you're gonna make some people
Speaker 8: have to play you a little bit differently if you.
Speaker 8: Understand LIKE i, SAID i Think tennessee's passing game route
Speaker 8: tree stuff is. Horrendous but this, kid look at this right,
Speaker 8: here look at that right, there just break inside and
Speaker 8: set in this instant separation and, yeah it's good To,
Speaker 8: OKLAHOMA i.
Speaker 3: Believe, yep, yeah six, yeah so six. FIVE i like
Speaker 3: we got, Him, Nick what does he say he might
Speaker 3: be going? In he Might you had him in the,
Speaker 3: fourth you, SAID i.
Speaker 4: Have him been the?
Speaker 3: Fourth, ye, yeah he would have been four to two oh,
Speaker 3: five and he can run a four to.
Speaker 6: Three he's, yeah, YEAH i mean there's certainly of. Traits
Speaker 6: could definitely see a team swinging on him because of.
Speaker 6: TRADES i mean there's so many trades teams out there
Speaker 6: that really swing on these types of guys earlier than they,
Speaker 6: SHOULD i. Believe BUT i think this would be one
Speaker 6: where you can probably justifight a little bit.
Speaker 7: More i'd argue for Type, FELTON i think over him
Speaker 7: The Miami maryland. Right, Yeah and this is a guy
Speaker 7: that you talk about being an issue for. Corners he
Speaker 7: drew three pass interference. CALLS i mean he just finds
Speaker 7: a way to get behind the defense and can. ACCELERATE
Speaker 7: i mean his game AGAINST usc was really really. Impressive
Speaker 7: he is thin, though much Like. Thornton, like this guy's
Speaker 7: got a very very thin, frame but he finds a
Speaker 7: way to get. Open it passed the secondary and the
Speaker 7: second level puts a lot of stress on. Corners so
Speaker 7: tyfelt AND i liked a little bit more Than Dante
Speaker 7: Thornton junior From. Tennessee and Then Pat Bryan we've talked about.
Speaker 7: Before brian out Of. ILLINOIS i Don't i've got him
Speaker 7: in the FOURTH i might have him higher than other people.
Speaker 7: DO i Love Pat bryan his ability to win contested.
Speaker 7: CATCHES i think he's one of the more underrated wide
Speaker 7: receivers in this.
Speaker 2: Class he torched some guys at the at The Senior
Speaker 2: bowl specifically a couple of different, times And tommy AND
Speaker 2: i were watching him ruin careers out there for a little.
Speaker 3: Bit not great for certain. FOLKS U oh, Yeah do
Speaker 3: you have, Anybody, tommy that you would put on that.
Speaker 9: List at wide receiver in that fourth round picture at
Speaker 9: four or? Five you know guys That i've got there
Speaker 9: would Be ristreppo From, Miami horton From Colorado. State i'm
Speaker 9: higher on. MOST i think that WITH Ja Cory brooks From.
Speaker 9: LOUISVILLE i think Really brooks would be would be.
Speaker 3: One for me THAT i really.
Speaker 9: Like this is a guy who was a former five,
Speaker 9: star went To, alabama didn't really work out for him,
Speaker 9: there but had a good year At. Louisville and you,
Speaker 9: know you look at it's more of an upside, PICK i.
Speaker 9: Think but the big body six, two one hundred and
Speaker 9: eighty four, pounds you know you would have to take
Speaker 9: a chance on this guy who first team ON acc
Speaker 9: a thousand yard season nine touchdowns started in twelve games
Speaker 9: this past year For, louisville and he's kind of a
Speaker 9: roller coaster when you watch. Him sometimes it'll all be
Speaker 9: there and sometimes it, won't but you know the frame
Speaker 9: and the ability to go up and get the. BALL
Speaker 9: i think it was A Shrine bowl guy, too If
Speaker 9: i'm not. Mistaken he had a pretty good week over.
Speaker 9: There so, again a later round. Guy you might even
Speaker 9: be able to get him later than in the. Fifth
Speaker 9: but just a guy that watching his TAPE i really.
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Speaker 2: go into some tell me, More. Zach i'll start with.
Speaker 2: You who's the guy you want to talk?
Speaker 3: About?
Speaker 7: Right SO i put out a, Post, hey who did
Speaker 7: the fans want to hear? ABOUT i got a lot
Speaker 7: About Andrew, armstrong the wide receiver out Of. Arkansas now
Speaker 7: The beast our Buddy Dane bruler had him as an
Speaker 7: undrafted free. Agent he, DID i do think that he's
Speaker 7: worthy of a six or seventh round. Pick personally six
Speaker 7: four to two oh, two big body transferred From East
Speaker 7: TEXAS a AND m red shirt. Senior he led THE
Speaker 7: sec in receptions yards and receiving yards per, game and
Speaker 7: to be, honest that was with a subpark quarterback in my,
Speaker 7: opinion caught a pass in thirty nine straight games to
Speaker 7: end his careers in local kids who was A dallas
Speaker 7: guy visit played At Bishop. Dunn very productive over the
Speaker 7: last two seasons At. Arkansas he's, long, skinny big, body
Speaker 7: true possession type of wide. Receiver now he's not going
Speaker 7: to give you a ton after The, cats, Right he's
Speaker 7: a little bit, limited you could, say maybe some stiff,
Speaker 7: hips BUT i like his ability to win off the
Speaker 7: ball initially at the. Snap he's pretty. Clean not the
Speaker 7: greatest route runner in terms of creating, separation but he's
Speaker 7: got tremendous. HANDS i, mean this guy pretty much caught
Speaker 7: everything THAT i saw thrown his. Way SO i love
Speaker 7: his ability when you get plays that are broken down
Speaker 7: and now he's got to play out of. Structure he
Speaker 7: does an excellent job understanding levels and working himself open
Speaker 7: to where he can get into the sightline of the. Quarterback,
Speaker 7: armstrong big bodied. Guy if you're looking for somebody that
Speaker 7: can play THE, x be a possession, receiver move the
Speaker 7: chains for.
Speaker 3: YOU i take a flyer on him late day. Three
Speaker 3: i'm going to say this is a.
Speaker 9: Compliment he is a not as, athletic slower Seed. Lamb
Speaker 9: that's kind of WHAT i look at the number. Two
Speaker 9: he doesn't well, yeah well not only does he with you,
Speaker 9: now but the way that he, get LIKE i, said
Speaker 9: it's not.
Speaker 3: Polished i'm not comparing him To City lamb.
Speaker 9: Whatsoever but you just look at kind of the route
Speaker 9: tree that he's gotten and the way that he. Runs
Speaker 9: it looks a lot like you know What number two
Speaker 9: At oklahoma looked.
Speaker 3: LIKE i got Some Marquis colston.
Speaker 7: Vibes, yeah when you watched, him just that big boy
Speaker 7: like that finds a way to just kind of pull
Speaker 7: make it happen for. You and he is slippery after the.
Speaker 7: Catch but he's definitely not a. BURGER i, mean this
Speaker 7: guy doesn't have a ton of.
Speaker 3: Explosiveness all, Right, tommy who you? Got all? RIGHT i
Speaker 3: got one for, you give me.
Speaker 9: It Ty robinson From nebraska's defensive tackle six, five two
Speaker 9: hundred and eighty eight, Pounds so he's on the lighter,
Speaker 9: side but this guy is.
Speaker 3: Really twitching off the.
Speaker 9: Line of scrimmage four eight three and the forty that
Speaker 9: the fastest amongst all defensive. Tackles the other red. Flag
Speaker 9: he's gonna be twenty four when the season. Starts but
Speaker 9: when you turn the film, on LIKE i, said for his,
Speaker 9: size he's got great.
Speaker 3: Twitch where's the two hundred and eighty eight? Pounds like
Speaker 3: he's three? FIFTEEN i, mean he is. Yoke just look at.
Speaker 9: The size of his biceps here all the. Film he is,
Speaker 9: massive plays a lot. HEAVIER i feel like he can
Speaker 9: line up anywhere on the, line from right over the
Speaker 9: center to coming off the. Edge he uses his hands really,
Speaker 9: well throws guys off of him as a great swim
Speaker 9: move to get into the backfield as a pass, rusher
Speaker 9: or stopping the run really strong with his. Hands but
Speaker 9: when the offensive line sets their base and they he
Speaker 9: can kind of be stopped in his track.
Speaker 3: Sometimes so there are there are.
Speaker 9: There are flashes of that play, strength but there are
Speaker 9: also flashes where where he, gets you, know stopped up
Speaker 9: pretty quickly by. It maybe a stock your guy who
Speaker 9: has a better, base but he's a really smart football.
Speaker 9: Player he can kind of do it all from a
Speaker 9: pass rushing perspective and a run stopping. PERSPECTIVE i love
Speaker 9: the versatility that he brings just in terms of where
Speaker 9: he can line up on the line of. SCRIMMAGE i
Speaker 9: think this is going to be a really good. Player
Speaker 9: i've got him in the third or fourth. Round he
Speaker 9: plays with some.
Speaker 2: Grit, yeah he's Always he's a true old school his
Speaker 2: textbook Corn.
Speaker 9: FEDS i, mean this guy always goes after the. Ball
Speaker 9: when he's going after the, quarterback he's swatting at the,
Speaker 9: ball trying to punch it.
Speaker 3: Out. Uh he's lined up at fullback. Here he's just
Speaker 3: throwing guys out of the. Way so this this guy
Speaker 3: can do it.
Speaker 9: All he's uber. ATHLETIC i love the film a, lot
Speaker 9: AND i love the player a.
Speaker 2: Lot now he kind of reminds me a little bit
Speaker 2: just from watching some of these tapes Of John ridgeway
Speaker 2: a couple of years. Better you, know that nasty, grit
Speaker 2: kind of a back and forth, player old, school like you,
Speaker 2: said defensive tackle who gets active in the passing.
Speaker 3: Game he never really panned out In, dallas.
Speaker 2: But he's had a decent career With Washington commanders over
Speaker 2: the last few. Years so a Little John ridgway to his.
Speaker 2: Game brian who's your.
Speaker 3: Guy i'm gonna stump beam on this. One you didn't
Speaker 3: have film on this, guy guarantee.
Speaker 13: You.
Speaker 8: Oh Jackson slater center guard tackle from Next Sack, state
Speaker 8: and this guy he played. It he played left. Guard
Speaker 8: if he, does, MAN i will be. Amazed but he
Speaker 8: played left. Guard he's lined up.
Speaker 3: Some tackle.
Speaker 8: Boy sorr all these, YEARS i should have should not
Speaker 8: not to play that, game but this guy.
Speaker 3: Has he's. Played he's when you when. You the REASON
Speaker 3: i like this kid is he's six, three he's three.
Speaker 8: Eleven the thing about him is though he's played all
Speaker 8: the offensive line, POSITION i think he's going to be a.
Speaker 3: Center this guy is kind of a pull a pinned poll.
Speaker 3: Expert and If.
Speaker 8: Dallas is going to go to with scheme where they
Speaker 8: play with lead blockers and they play with pulling getting
Speaker 8: guys on the second, Level Jackson slater From Sack state
Speaker 8: can buy can be a. Guy this guy's got a,
Speaker 8: burst he's got some he's got, range he's got quickness
Speaker 8: out of his. Stance he's one of these guys that's
Speaker 8: got he's got some stoutness to. Him, though when he
Speaker 8: gets guys head up on, him he could sit down
Speaker 8: on him and see right there he's looking look at.
Speaker 8: That that was a nasty player right. There he's able
Speaker 8: to kind of help his center a little. Bit they
Speaker 8: get that secured there Against fresno and then they punish the.
Speaker 8: Edge that's the kind of demeanor this kid. Has he
Speaker 8: is a four year starter here At Sack. State this
Speaker 8: is very similar to we're talking About. Bland you know
Speaker 8: That fresno got. This they Got. BLAND i think somebody
Speaker 8: in The pac twelve at the TIME i missed this.
Speaker 8: KID i think he's got that kind of. ABILITY i
Speaker 8: have him in the fifth round. Though but if you're
Speaker 8: looking for penn and pull athletic offensive, Lineman Jackson slater's your.
Speaker 3: GUY i love. IT i love. It me, Wrong quick was?
Speaker 11: Wrong all?
Speaker 3: Right you said you're gonna stump.
Speaker 4: Him, Nick, Yeah well let's see two minutes left to.
Speaker 2: Stump, Okay So Texas, baptist So East TEXAS a AND.
Speaker 3: M now they've.
Speaker 6: Switched there is An East texas better see there a
Speaker 6: new don't even know about. That back in twenty twenty,
Speaker 6: one The, broncos they took a swing in the third
Speaker 6: round On Quine On quinn minors and he is he
Speaker 6: has ended up being one of the best guards in THE,
Speaker 6: nfl and they're really looking strong about that. One they
Speaker 6: got him from The division three ranks At Wisconsin. Whitewater,
Speaker 6: granted that's one of the Best division three programs in the,
Speaker 6: country But i'm gonna go back TO d three. Country
Speaker 6: let me take it to The Green Mountain. State we're
Speaker 6: gonna go take a look At Thomas perry out of
Speaker 6: out Of Middleburg college and and, Yeah thomas the tank
Speaker 6: they they got used to call. Him During Shrine bowl,
Speaker 6: WEEK i had asked a couple of offensive line d damn, It,
Speaker 6: yeah called theo's.
Speaker 3: This guy's here we.
Speaker 7: Go he's A duke many Many weather special right. Here,
Speaker 7: Yes duke is working with. Him And i'm with. You
Speaker 7: this is a hell of a play, Here, NICK i
Speaker 7: love this pick for.
Speaker 4: You, yeah he's a he's a.
Speaker 6: Mauler he played a left guard for three, years three year,
Speaker 6: starter and, uh whenever he had that uptick in competition
Speaker 6: from The Shrine, bowl he. Shined and it was a
Speaker 6: week offensive line. Class in my, opinion at The Shrine,
Speaker 6: BOWL i thought he was the standout throughout the week
Speaker 6: from from those, guys but talking to offensive line, people
Speaker 6: last week and also kind of reading the teele he's
Speaker 6: as far as visits he's.
Speaker 4: Taken this guy's gonna get.
Speaker 6: Drafted he's gonna get Drafted day, three and someone's gonna
Speaker 6: take a swing on him to be to be A
Speaker 6: day three type. Selection but uh, yeah this is a
Speaker 6: this is a guy THAT i think could end up
Speaker 6: being pretty pretty dominant at the next. Level he's got
Speaker 6: uh he's got the, strength he's got the. Finish he's
Speaker 6: dominant against these guys in THE d three, level which
Speaker 6: is what you want to. See could be a little bit,
Speaker 6: longer could be a little bit, bigger BUT i mean
Speaker 6: at six two and a half threeh nine he Could
Speaker 6: he could definitely fill out and add a couple of
Speaker 6: pounds to his game and be. Fine but the one
Speaker 6: big question THAT i have, is, like the most of
Speaker 6: what he did At, middlebury.
Speaker 4: He was lining up in a two point.
Speaker 6: Stance BUT i think IF i think you just get
Speaker 6: the right offensive line coach in his, development he'll be
Speaker 6: ready to. Go and again he showed that he can
Speaker 6: stand up at The Shrine. Bowl and these these offensive
Speaker 6: line trainers really like this. Guy they think he's going
Speaker 6: to be a sleeper in the straft and he's gonna
Speaker 6: he's gonna come out on.
Speaker 7: Top he was dominant in every single rap at The Shrine,
Speaker 7: bowl getting to cover those, practices and he went up
Speaker 7: against some really good defensive tackles that were. There we're
Speaker 7: talking To Jordan, Phillips Santa maryland And.
Speaker 3: COMPANY. Cj west was there out Of.
Speaker 7: Indiana and his ability to sit down and hold his
Speaker 7: own against those with a really strong anchoring base and
Speaker 7: the heart that this dude plays, with that's a hell
Speaker 7: of a call right, There thomas The.
Speaker 3: TANK i love that.
Speaker 2: Dude i've got one That I'm i've switched my guy
Speaker 2: completely BECAUSE i just want to try and see IF
Speaker 2: i can Stump beam before.
Speaker 3: We end out. Here, look good, luck everybody's over for right.
Speaker 2: Now i'm gonna go with out Of, Miami Ohio Brian,
Speaker 2: UGWU i believe is how you say his name transferred From,
Speaker 2: rutgers six foot, three two hundred and fifty plus.
Speaker 3: Pounds he was first Team All mac last.
Speaker 2: Year The mac attack played really well Against Notre, dame
Speaker 2: had a couple tackles for loss in that, matchup played
Speaker 2: well in multiple sacks Against Eastern. Michigan Against ohio as.
Speaker 2: WELL i like his bend off the. Edge he's a
Speaker 2: little slow on his get off a little. Bit i'm
Speaker 2: waiting for.
Speaker 9: The for the b roll to step, up And i'm
Speaker 9: staring number.
Speaker 3: Eight he wore number Eights beamer in the red For, Miami.
Speaker 3: OHIO i may have gotten. THEM i don't.
Speaker 2: Know but either that or he's not in the draft
Speaker 2: AND i just missed him on my list AND i
Speaker 2: put him on. There edge rusher is what he is
Speaker 2: is in the. Draft edge Rusher Chris. Beam all, right
Speaker 2: here we. Go now only WATCHED i only watched The
Speaker 2: Notre dame. Game he's stuck out a little bit and
Speaker 2: that's WHERE i. Say he had two tackles for lost
Speaker 2: in that. Game BUT i thought he was. FUN i
Speaker 2: would probably take a flyer on him late day, three
Speaker 2: but if you're hunting, trades he's got long, arms got
Speaker 2: some good bin to.
Speaker 3: Him wasn't a, combine.
Speaker 2: But overall a pretty solid player out of THE mac
Speaker 2: and had some production throughout his team the last couple of.
Speaker 2: Years was second Team ALL mac in twenty twenty.
Speaker 9: Three you still still SORRY i.
Speaker 2: WAS i was actually picking it BECAUSE i thought since
Speaker 2: he had been An All All conference.
Speaker 3: Player you would have come up with, it but sorry
Speaker 3: to end on a. Loan he'll get him, in he'll
Speaker 3: get him in the system before the. Draft it'll be
Speaker 3: here On. Thursday we'll get, drafted all, right.
Speaker 2: Guys that's gonna do it for us here on The Draft.
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Speaker 2: beam doing some incredible work in the. Back I'm Kyle
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