1 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: I am Mike Spofford, joined as always by my trusted 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: colleague Wes Hodkowitz, coming to you hear from our studios 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: at Lambeaufield to talk about Sunday Nights game down in Dallas. Wes. 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: It ended in a forty to forty overtime tie. And 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 2: I've probably begun a number of shows over are what 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: is this now close to ten years or doing this 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: show with this particular line. Just when you think you've 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 2: seen it all in this league, another game gets played 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: and this is another one of those games that nobody 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 2: could have predicted that, I mean, it's it was. It 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: was off the wall in so many ways. And there's 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 2: a ton of ground to cover in this show, and 15 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna be able to get to 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: all of it, but just initially your overall impressions of 17 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: how this game went out. 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: The first ever forty forty game in NFL history, the 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: second highest tie ever in NFL history, the Dallas Cowboys 20 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: first tie since nineteen sixty nine. 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: Nineteen sixty nine. 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: Nice, And I'll be honest with you, Mike, as I 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: came to terms with this and we finished all of 24 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: our content. You and I are flying through the night 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: and get back into Green Bay at a little before 26 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: four in the morning. I was walking to my car 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, after writing everything, reading everything, 28 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: it is kind of like going through everything. It was 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: one of those games where really truly nobody I think 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: deserved to win. When you and I say that, actually 31 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: not just from a point of you know, being a contrarian, 32 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at both of these sides. There's 33 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: a compelling argument for why the Dallas Cowboys should have 34 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: won and why the Green Bit Packers should have won 35 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: in neither team achieved the goal. From the Cowboys perspective, 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't know the stat exactly off my head, but 37 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: I think it was the first time at least is 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: it in their franchises. Yeah, I was in their franchise's history. 39 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: I think Movski was the one that tweeted this out 40 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 1: that they scored over four hundred points with four hundred 41 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: totally yards with forty points, yeah, and didn't have a turnover. 42 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: It was the first time they didn't win that game 43 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: in franchise history. I think they're now like it's like 44 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: three hundred zero and one when they've achieved those those 45 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: measurements from the Packers standpoint. The really bizarre thing about 46 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: this first month, Mike, they've started fast in all these 47 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: games for the most part. I mean, they have got 48 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: on the board, they've put points up, and then they've 49 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: had these moments where whether it's the block field goal 50 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: or the blocked extra point in this game, or that 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: bizarre series of events at the end of the first 52 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: half where you go from leading thirteen to two and 53 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: now you're trailing sixteen to thirteen at halftime, and then 54 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, on Green Bay kind of still found ways 55 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: to get the offense going, but then defensively then they 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: couldn't stop Dallas in the second half. Just a very 57 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: bizarre game on so many fronts, and I thought a 58 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: lot of guys afterwards, you were at the press conferences, 59 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: I was in the locker room, in the common sense, 60 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: in the Packers' locker room. It just was a weird night, 61 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: a weird game, and the only silver line you could 62 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: take from it is the Packers walked out of there 63 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: with a tie, and in twenty thirteen, that was the 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: difference between them getting into the playoffs or not, and 65 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: the Packers have to keep winning and hope that it's 66 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: something that could propell them forward down the line. 67 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we'll just have to see. I think 68 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: it was you quoted Brandon McManus in the locker room afterwards, saying, 69 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: you just have to see come December, early January, what 70 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: a tie on the record means, you know, as you're 71 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: trying to sort out the all of the postseason, end 72 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: of season scenarios. I've certainly never seen a game, or 73 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: I can't recall one where the last nine consecutive possessions 74 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: in the football game all resulted in points and actually 75 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: it was six touchdowns in a row as these teams 76 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: went back and forth. In my mind, there are similarities 77 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: to the game against Cleveland, there are also significant differences. 78 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: The similarity being there was another costly special teams breakdown 79 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: in getting kick blocked. This one was an extra point 80 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: that the Cowboys ran back for two points, so in 81 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: a sense, it was the equivalent of getting a field 82 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 2: goal blocked because it was a three point swing on 83 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: the scoreboard. The Packers had scored a touchdown and essentially 84 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: netted only a plus four on the scoreboard because they 85 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: didn't get the extra point and the Cowboys got too, 86 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: So that was one similarity. Another similarity was, as you 87 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: alluded to a somewhat catastrophic error offensively in terms of 88 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: a turnover deep in your own territory, giving the other 89 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: team a short field they end up scoring a touchdown. 90 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 2: The difference was that, at least in this case compared 91 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: to Cleveland, that big mistake on offense happened at the 92 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 2: end of the first half, not at the end of 93 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: the game. So the Packers had an entire second half 94 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: to try to make up for it, and they sort 95 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: of did and sort of didn't in terms of being 96 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: able to get out of Dallas with a tie when 97 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 2: they went into the locker room at halftime losing. 98 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: I think. 99 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: With for everything that went wrong in this game, what 100 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: rises to I would say maybe the largest level of 101 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: concern for me as far as what I saw was 102 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: a Packers defense that had played so well for three 103 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 2: weeks and started this game so well with three consecutive 104 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: scoreless possessions forcing three straight punts. Suddenly the Cowboys drove 105 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: ninety five yards. They're pinned on their own five yard line. 106 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: They go the length of the field, ninety five yards 107 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: for a touchdown in the second quarter, and then it 108 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: just felt like Green Bay's defense never recovered from you know, 109 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: they they took a big punch that Dak Prescott through 110 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: a Haymaker with that ninety five yard drive and basically announced, Okay, yeah, 111 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: this Cowboys offense has shown up to play tonight, and 112 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 2: it felt like Green Bay's defense never responded to that. Now, 113 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 2: it's just one game, and certainly the bulk of the 114 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: work of Green Bay's defense over the course of this 115 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: young season has been much more good than bad, But 116 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: that was troubling to watch, to feel like Green Bay's 117 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 2: defense never recovered from the moment when things started to 118 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: go wrong. 119 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. And again, the one 120 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: thing that kind of stinks about the bye week coming 121 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: now is we're not going to have a chance to 122 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: really break this thing down with Jeff Halfley, with Richie Saccia. 123 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: We're not going to talk to them at least for 124 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: another week plus, so a lot of time and a 125 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 1: lot of water. I'll be under the bridge at that point. 126 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: But so some of these observations, again, we haven't even 127 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: talked to Matt Lafleur at this point. Than which we're 128 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: taping this so trying to figure out what the packer's 129 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: reaction to a lot of it is and where they 130 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: thought some of the seams kind of came undone. We're 131 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: going to have to still figure that out. But from 132 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: my vantage point as I was watching that game, defensively, 133 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: it just seemed like Green Bay was pretty committed to 134 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: a four man rush. Yep, you didn't see much blitzing. 135 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: There weren't any simulated pressures. They moved around Micah Parsons 136 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: a little bit throughout the front, but there wasn't that 137 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: threat for the most part. I think Kuay did blitz 138 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: a couple of times. I think Edgern did blitz a 139 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: couple times, but it wasn't as much incorporated into the 140 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: plan in this game as it had been some of 141 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: the others. 142 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: Certainly not with how many snaps there were over the 143 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: course of seventy minutes. You know, we would have thought, 144 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: you know, that there would have been some more change 145 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: ups threat down there. 146 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, we'll have to wait and see. But 147 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: you know, long at the end of the day, where 148 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: Green Bay I thought, by and large, they did a 149 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: really good job against Prescott. The problem was they only 150 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: had the five quarterback hits against some of the one 151 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: sack which ended up being a huge play. I mean, 152 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: it's not your traditional sack, right, but it was a 153 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: huge play in the game, and that it kept Prescott 154 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: from getting into the end zone and ultimately kept Green 155 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: Bay alive to be able to match the or at 156 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: least have a chance to and then obviously match the 157 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: field goal. But Prescott in the times in which he 158 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: was under pressure seemed to get the ball out just 159 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: in the nick of time, yep. And then in the 160 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: instances where the Packers didn't get pressure, Prescott really went 161 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: to work. 162 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: Yeahak dak. Prescott's experience and his savvy and his accuracy. 163 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: I mean, he he showed in this game how big 164 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 2: time a quarterback he is. I mean, he's missing one 165 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: of his top weapons, if not his top weapon in 166 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: CD Lamb and the Packers certainly had their trouble with 167 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 2: George Pickens. Pickens had a big night, but we also 168 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: saw you know, guys like Jalen Tolbert and Turpin and 169 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: these and these other guys. I mean Prescott, I think 170 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: you had said it an insider inbox. It was as 171 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: though he was always a step ahead, because as soon 172 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: as Micah Parsons was you know, would beat his guy 173 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: and was closing in on him, the ball was out, 174 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: you know. And the ball wasn't just out, but most 175 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: of the time it was out very accurately to somebody 176 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: who was able to make a play for him. It 177 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 2: was it was frustrating in that sense to watch. It 178 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: felt like as the game went on that that the Packers, 179 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: the Packers didn't get enough pressure on Dak Prescott. But 180 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: then when you go back and look at it and 181 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 2: you see how many times he just got the ball 182 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: out so quickly, you have to you have to give 183 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: him credit. And from Jeff Hafley's perspective up above, if 184 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: he's watching this and he's seeing the opposing quarterback constantly 185 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 2: getting the ball out so fast anytime somebody was closing 186 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: in on him, you can understand the reluctance to blitz, 187 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: the reluctance to dial things up, because you don't want 188 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 2: to compromise your coverage if they're just gonna go three 189 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 2: step drop and fire the ball all night long. So 190 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: there was there was a lot of that kind of 191 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 2: chess match stuff and and and trying to find an 192 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: answer going on and and and Prescott played a big 193 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: time game. On the other side, I thought Jordan Love 194 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: played a big time game as well. The turnover deep 195 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: in your own territory late in the first half extremely unfortunate. 196 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 2: I think the Packers got a little bit this is 197 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: just my feeling that cycleote logically, they got a little 198 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 2: bit too wrapped up in the idea of Dallas being 199 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 2: able to double up. Where Dallas scores on the ninety 200 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: five yard drive and they're going to get the ball 201 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: coming out at the start of the second half, and 202 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: because of that possibility of the double up, the you know, 203 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 2: the Packers got a little too aggressive. You get the 204 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: first down at the thirty two yard line, but after 205 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 2: a false start moves you back to the twenty seven 206 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: and you're out of timeouts and the clock is, you know, 207 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: down into the low twenties in terms of seconds left 208 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: in the first half. You're probably better off going in 209 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 2: the locker room there at thirteen to nine. And I 210 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: know that's easy for me to say, like you know, 211 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: sitting here, but I think it was just it was 212 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: this whole pressure of feeling like, Okay, you can't let 213 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: the Cowboys double up, right, and then they ended up 214 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 2: doubling up and getting a chance to triple up as 215 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: it turned out, So that was unfortunate. But the Packers' offense, 216 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: and as we've seen with Jordan Love, when a mistake happens, 217 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 2: he shakes it off, he comes out, and he came 218 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: out in the second half firing. And as much as 219 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 2: the Packers were having trouble stop in Prescott, the Cowboys 220 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: are having just as much trouble stopping Jordan Love in 221 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 2: the Packers. 222 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: You know what drives me nuts sometimes with Packer fans. 223 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: I'm a little raw here because I just got done 224 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: doing Insider Inbox last night, So kind of like if 225 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: you had to do it, if we had to do 226 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: this show right after you wrote Inbox on Mondays, I'm 227 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: guessing you'd have a few different thoughts after you get 228 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: a time to sort of let things marinate a little bit. 229 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, walking off the plane at four am wouldn't have 230 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: been after writing that Insider Inbox wouldn't have been a 231 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: good time for me to step in front of a microphone. 232 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: But yes, go ahead. 233 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: But what drives me nuts sometimes with fans is you know, 234 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: they get so frustrated, and yes, I'm not. I understand 235 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: Jordan made a bad interception a week earlier against Cleveland, 236 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: and then that whole thing of again, that series of 237 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: unfortunate events at the end of the first half, which 238 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: Matt Lafuller took ownership for for wanting to put the 239 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: foot on the pedal for probably when the fall start happens, 240 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: maybe at that point packing your bags in because you 241 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: don't have any timeouts left. You are down to twenty 242 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: seconds on the clock maybe to play another day. 243 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, and yard and five yards in that situation when 244 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: the best you're gonna do is field goal range, five 245 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 2: yards is a big deal and you have to and 246 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: you have to consider that. 247 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: But go on. So the point I want to raise 248 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: with that is the way that Jordan Love bounced back 249 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: from that and the way that the defense bounced back 250 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: from that. If the Packers don't have that response, this 251 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: isn't even a game. But what happened was is the 252 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: defense did get one, did get off the field once, 253 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: and that's what gave Green Bay a chance to get 254 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: back into this thing. And when Jordan Love got that 255 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: ball back in his hands, he got back to his playmakers. 256 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs played some really good football in this game. 257 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: Emmanuel Wilson played some really good football in this game. 258 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: The Packers run game showed up in Tucker Kraft and 259 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: those the sprinkling there of Romeo Dobbs with the touchdown catches. 260 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: When I talk about my frustration with fans at times 261 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: is they focus so much on what the immediate result is, 262 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: and I don't think they always understand you're seeing the 263 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: maturation of young players before your eyes. Romeo Dobbs is 264 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: as cool, calming, collected as a receivers you're going to 265 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: find in the National Football League, and they need that 266 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: in this offense. Jordan Love with his cool disposition to 267 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: things and his ability to let the water kind of 268 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: go off his shoulder a little bit and focus on 269 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: the next task at hand, that's an important trait that 270 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: I think trickles down to the rest of this football 271 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: team offensively. This was their day. As you were in 272 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: the press conference with Micah Parsons, he said he went 273 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: up to Jordan Love and thanked him for picking the 274 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: defense up that day. When you're looking at complimentary football, 275 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: these are the instances you look at special teams had 276 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: a rough day. Defense had a rough day. But outside 277 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: of just the end of that first half. Offensively, in 278 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: a game in which Jordan Love could not afford to blink, 279 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: he kept his straight forward vision and helped this offense succeed. 280 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you mentioned Jacobs and Wilson. I thought 281 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: we maybe saw the best of each of those guys 282 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 2: in a Packers' uniform. Certainly the best game of Emmanuel 283 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: Wilson's young career. I thought he was extremely effective. And 284 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: uh and just in general the Packers, the Packers got 285 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 2: the running game going, they got both of the running 286 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: backs involved in in the passing game, whether it was 287 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 2: screens or or checkdowns, and uh, and there's a there 288 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: was a lot to like about about what Green Bay's 289 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: offense did in this game. And as you mentioned, Dobbs 290 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: had the had the three touchdowns the the end of 291 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 2: the game, so Green Bay's defense is up against it. 292 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: In overtime, the Cowboys have first and goal on the 293 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: five yard line after the the sideline toe tap catch 294 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: there by Tolbert on I mean, on an incredible throw 295 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: by Prescott. Frankly, under pressure, he heaves it, it looks 296 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: like it might just go out of bounds, and Tolbert 297 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: is able to get it and uh and keep his 298 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: feet and bounds. So it's first and goal at the five, 299 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: and the Packers defense has not stopped Dallas since the 300 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: opening drive of the second half, but they rose up 301 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 2: and they were able to force the field goal. Micah 302 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: Parsons gets the chase down sack and I think Dak 303 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: Prescott's gonna score on that scramble if Parsons isn't able 304 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: to catch him, so they force the field goal. There 305 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: a big moment for Green Bay's defense. Then on the 306 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: other end, the Packers get all the way to the 307 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: twelve yard line. They have first and ten on the 308 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: Dallas twelve. Obviously, a touchdown wins the game, a field 309 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: goal ties the game. The clock is running down, and 310 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: we do this show a couple of days after the game, 311 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 2: so we've seen a lot of the narratives out there. 312 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: And if there's one narrative about this game that bothers 313 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: me more than anything, it's that supposedly Matt Lafleur and 314 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: the Packers weren't trying to win the game there, and 315 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: just because they weren't able to doesn't mean they weren't trying. 316 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: I mean the first play, the first play they try 317 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: the wide receiver screen to Matthew Golden. They have decent 318 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: numbers on the outside there, but a block is missed 319 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: and Golden gets tackled for a three yard loss. Unfortunate, 320 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: the play wasn't executed all that well. But just because 321 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 2: the Packers throw the ball sideways for a screen and 322 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: not towards the goal line doesn't mean they weren't trying 323 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: to win the game. So then we hear afterward from 324 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: Matt Lafluur and Jordan Love. So then on second down, 325 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: Lafleur is trying to take advantage of the fact that, Okay, 326 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: on this first on the first down play, the Cowboys 327 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 2: have had their guys up tight to the line of scrimmage, 328 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: So if they're gonna do that again, we're gonna take 329 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: the shot at the end zone. The Cowboys morph into 330 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: a cover too, They drop their coverage into the end zone. 331 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: There's nothing there for Jordan. He takes the checkdown to 332 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: Emmanuel Wilson, who isn't quite able to get back to 333 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage and the clock is still running. 334 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: I would say there's an argument to be made there. 335 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: Maybe Jordan Love needs to throw that ball away rather 336 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: than take the checkdown. It's one on one on the outside. 337 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 2: If Emmanuel Wilson could make the guy miss, then maybe 338 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 2: he gets, you know, a few yards, gets out of bounds. Whatever. 339 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: The biggest problem with the final sequence is that Emanuel Wilson, 340 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: it's tackled with twenty two seconds on the clock, and 341 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: then the third down snap doesn't happen until there are 342 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: six seconds left on the clock. It took sixteen seconds. 343 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 2: There wasn't the urgency out there on the field to 344 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 2: get to get lined up to run the play, to 345 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: take that last shot at the end zone. And quite frankly, 346 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 2: the Packers got extremely lucky that there was still one 347 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 2: second on the clock when the pass to the end 348 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: zone hit. I believe it was Sandborn in the back 349 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 2: the linebacker Jack Sanborn. It hit him in the back 350 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: and fell to the ground. If that ball is tipped 351 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: or deflected in any way, that last second probably ticks 352 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: off the clock and you've got an even greater disappointment 353 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 2: on your hands. My point, my overarching point, is the 354 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 2: final sequence didn't work out. The lack of urgency on 355 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: third down to get the snap off and not run 356 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 2: the clock down. As far as the Packers did, that 357 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: was the biggest problem with that sequence. It wasn't that 358 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: the Packers weren't trying to win the game, weren't and 359 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 2: were just settling for the field goal. That is not 360 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: what was happening there. It was a it was a 361 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 2: bad sequence of plays, it was a bad series of 362 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 2: downs that didn't go well. But to sit back there 363 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: and say that that Matt Lafleur was being all conservative 364 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 2: and wasn't trying to win the game, that is so 365 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: misguided and and it's and quite frankly, it's it's lazy. 366 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: It's it's frustration at not getting the victory being applied 367 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 2: to Oh the the intent to try to win the 368 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: game wasn't there. And and that's I don't have any 369 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: I don't have any time for that. And it's been 370 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: out there way too much. As far as as far 371 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 2: as the end of this game. I'm sorry, I went 372 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: on a long monologue there. I'll turn it back over 373 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: to you. 374 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: No, it's it's very much the case. And you know, 375 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: I think seeing how the Packers rallied there down the stretch, 376 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: I I feel like most of that frustration for fans 377 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: and and maybe some of it's coming from the media too. 378 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: Is I the idea that Okay, well you you won 379 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: the coin toss, so you elected the kick. So you're 380 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: trying to put yourself in a position to be able 381 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: to win the game, right and you know, you see 382 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: if your defense can hold, and they did, they kept 383 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: him to three points. So now you're at this point 384 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: where you just had Brandon McManus hit a fifty three 385 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: yard field goal as time expired in the in regulations. 386 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: So once the Packers crossed midfield, the thing I'm sure 387 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: that's going through everybody's mind is, okay, well we got 388 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: the three in the bag. Now, whatever happened on the 389 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: extra point, we came back, we made good on the 390 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: the you know, the fifty three yard because that's about 391 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: as high level difficulties you're going to find for an 392 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: NFL kicker and then a whole operational unit. 393 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, and McManus absolutely striped that kick too. It was 394 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 2: right down the middle and probably would have been good 395 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 2: from sixty five yards. 396 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. And as somebody said too, I mean you want 397 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: to talk about ten out of ten just from a 398 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: you know, pure beauty standpoint, I mean that thing was 399 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: right down Broadway. Yeah, nice operation there, and afterwards you know, 400 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: McManus commended both Matt Orzik and Daniel Wheeland for the 401 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: whole operation there. Okay, that all happens Packers rally, they're 402 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: down the field, things are looking up, and you have 403 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: some strikes to the end zone. But one of the 404 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: things is is now that we're down to this fifth 405 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: you know, we go from fifteen to ten minutes and 406 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: when it was not you know that now on both teams, 407 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: no matter what, get a chance to possess the ball, 408 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: you're going to see some down to the wire overtimes. Now, Yeah, 409 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: because there isn't always just going to be a you know, 410 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: seventy five yard touchdown to get things started. It's going 411 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: to be long, sustained drives that could take six, seven, 412 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: eight minutes. So Green Bay I felt like in that instance, 413 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: I mean Mattlefuer took ownership for it. He said, you know, 414 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: we got to be better there, play calls got to 415 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: be better, whatever you want to call it, right, But 416 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think there also 417 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: is a lot of trust that Jordan Love is going 418 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: to get this offense where it needs to be. And again, 419 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: kind of going back to my point earlier, I think 420 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: sometimes fans get so wrapped up in what the actual 421 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: result is, you're not actually seeing what's happening on the field. 422 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: And Jordan Love is taking absolute command of this offense. 423 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: Now he's catching guys every week with twelve men on 424 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: the field. There's so many attributes that it's not just 425 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: about what he learned from Aaron Rodgers. There's a lot 426 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: that he learned from Aaron Rodgers, and that's a big 427 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: part of his story, but it's also the way that 428 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: Matt Lafuer develops quarterbacks and the way the Packers developed 429 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: their offense. The pieces are coming together, and yeah, it 430 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: got really dramatic there at the end, But I guess 431 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: a part of me never felt like the thing was 432 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: out of control. And I think a lot of the 433 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: frustrations that we've heard verbalized in the last few days, 434 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: I think coming mostly out of the standpoint that it 435 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: was a frustrating game and the Packers weren't able to 436 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: punch it in at the very end. 437 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's my question that I'll throw out to you 438 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: as a hypothetical of sorts. Were you surprised that on 439 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: fourth and goal from the four that the Cowboys didn't 440 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: go for it In overtime because I thought they might, 441 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 2: just because their defense had been struggling so much that Okay, 442 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 2: if you don't get the touchdown there, the Packers are 443 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 2: backed up on their own four yard line, you're giving 444 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: your defense the you know, an opportunity there. And I'm 445 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: not saying that they should have gone for it. 446 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: I just I thought it was I. 447 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: Thought it was an interesting question the way that game 448 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 2: had gone on everything. On fourth and goal, you're inside 449 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 2: the five yard line, do you go for it there? 450 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: They obviously chose to kick the field goal. I was 451 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 2: just curious if you had any thoughts. 452 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: And they're gonna take one more look just to see. 453 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: I want to see what the plays were leading up 454 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: to that. Sorry fans. Okay, so person sacked him on 455 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: second down and then the passes incomplete on third. Yeah, okay. 456 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: My initial reaction to that is, no, it didn't surprise me. 457 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: And the main reason for that is, while you're right 458 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,479 Speaker 1: about where things were at with the defense, you also 459 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: saw what was happening with the Packers offense at that point, 460 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: and yes, they would have been supremely backed up. But 461 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 1: if Green Bay does move the ball from that point, 462 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: chances are it's going to be a long drive that 463 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: will ultimately lead to a game winning field goal. I 464 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: get yeah. 465 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 2: In the end the Cowboys that ultimately the decision was 466 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 2: we're not going to put our defen in a position 467 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 2: where they can lose the game on a field goal. 468 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 2: They're only going to lose the game on a touchdown. 469 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 2: And it worked and it worked out for them. But 470 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 2: again that goes back to the Prescott scramble. I mean, say, 471 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: if Parsons is another step late and Prescott gets to 472 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: like the two or the one yard line and then 473 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 2: you're talking fourth and goal from there as opposed to 474 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 2: the four, maybe it's a whole different decision as well. 475 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 2: I realize that's all hypothetical stuff. I was just curious. 476 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question. I guess that's where because 477 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm looking at it now. I mean, here's the thing, 478 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: like leading up to the end of the game here, 479 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm personally perseverating so much on the Packers defense, 480 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: but the whole second half is nine plays sixty five 481 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: yards touchdown, eight plays sixty five yards touchdown, ten plays 482 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: sixty five tart yards touchdown, three plays thirty nine yards 483 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: game tying field goal, and then they end up actually 484 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: having a thirteen play drive that leads up to the 485 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: game tying field again for McManus, so, I think it's 486 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: one of those things that when you're in that type 487 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: of shootout, nine straight scoring drives, as you mentioned, a 488 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: bunch of touchdown drives combined as well. Yeah, I think 489 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: you can't take anyffer granted to shoot the Packers put 490 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: what was it the Cowboys started at their own five. 491 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: You're thinking the Packers got three straight punts at that 492 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: point in the second quarter. 493 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: Right, and that that's that's the point that you think 494 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: the Packers defense is in great position, you know, with 495 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,959 Speaker 2: the offense has already scored, you're in the lead. You 496 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 2: back them up on the five yard line, and that's 497 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 2: when Dak Prescott came out, drove them all the way 498 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: down the field and he sort of announced like all right, 499 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 2: I came, I came to play tonight. And the Packers 500 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 2: defense had trouble on their hands the rest of the game. 501 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: By the way, one last thing on all this, uh dude, 502 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: something that drives me absolutely nuts right now too. Again 503 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: this is the West is Going Nuts episode? Uh people, 504 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 1: Well they didn't have Cedee Lamb, so how did the 505 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: Dallas George Pickens is a really good football receiver. 506 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: Pickens is good, and the Packers had Packers had trouble. 507 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: Did you watch those clips of Ceedee Lamb on the sideline, 508 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: like picking out the plays that picking was gonna make explosives? Yeah, Like, yeah, 509 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of like bad juju so to speak 510 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: around Pickens because of how things ended in Pittsburgh. But 511 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: the guy's always been really really talented. Yeah, so yeah, 512 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Dak is really good. Pickens is really good. 513 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: The Packers walked out of there with the tie, and 514 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: as I also said an insider inbox, they're going to 515 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: go back to Lambeufield here after the bye. The Packers 516 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: still have yet to lose at Lambefield. And I know 517 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: what you wrote an inbox and what you said during 518 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: final thoughts last week. You want to split on the road. 519 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna get really weird now with being zero one 520 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: and one on the road. But that being said, one 521 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: of the arguments I made the Los Angeles Chargers did 522 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: a cross country flight to New York against the Giants 523 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: team that last week I said was ill advised in 524 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: starting Jackson Dark. 525 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 2: Three and o versus zero and three and welcome, Welcome 526 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 2: to the NFL. 527 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 1: It's very hard to win on the road, so it's 528 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: not an excuse. I understand the frustration. Fortunately, the Packers 529 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: are two to one and one here going into the 530 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: by and are the one think green Bay has to 531 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: do coming out of it. They have to be more consistent, 532 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: for sure. Everybody agrees with that. Yes, they also need 533 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: to get incredibly more healthy. It's wild what happened in 534 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: this game really for both offensive lines being down a 535 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: lot of their preferred starters. Green Bay's got work to do. Yeah, 536 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: that's the more of the story. 537 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 2: One last thing I want to say before we pay 538 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 2: some bills. We mentioned Brandon McManus. Obviously the two clutch 539 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: kicks that stave off defeat. He was also making tackles 540 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 2: on kickoffs. I thought Brandon McManus played a whale of 541 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: a football game. The blocked extra point was not his fault. 542 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: The Packers actually changed multiple personnel on the right side 543 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: of the field goal protection unit after the pat was blocked. 544 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: And when McManus is making tackles on kickoffs, the Packers 545 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: have a lot to figure out and sort out on 546 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: special teams. That's got to get sorted out. But I 547 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: just wanted to give a tip of the Captain McManus 548 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: because that was a whale of a game from a 549 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: kicker and the Packers are lucky to have him. But 550 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 2: right now I do need to turn it over to 551 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: a word from our sponsors. 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Pit Boss Grills 561 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: available at minards. Hey Packers fans, we always knew Lambeufield 562 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 2: was a wonder but now it's official. Learn more about 563 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: all the wonders of Wisconsin at Travel Wisconsin dot com 564 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: slash Wonders. Welcome back to Packers Unscripted West. Last thing 565 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 2: before we go a quick look at where things stand 566 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: in the NFC North. The Detroit Lions at three and one, 567 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 2: sitting back on top where they've been the last couple 568 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: of years. The Packers right behind at two to one 569 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: and one, Minnesota and Chicago both two and two, both 570 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: getting to two and two in very different ways. The 571 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 2: Vikings losing across the pond in Ireland to the Steelers, 572 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: a comeback attempt at the end that comes up short, 573 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 2: and the Bears get a block field goal on the 574 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: final play in Las Vegas to hang on and beat 575 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 2: the Raiders. So the Bears have wiped out their zero 576 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: and two start, the Packers have almost wiped out their 577 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 2: two and oh start. Although two to one and one 578 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: is certainly better than two and two, and everybody's chasing 579 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions again, we're right back where we've been 580 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 2: the last couple seasons. 581 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really funny to watch how this thing 582 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: played out. Now. By the way I was mentioning our 583 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: last segment, the difference between playing home and away, I 584 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: thought you saw that with Detroit being inside Ford Field, 585 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: Cleveland trying to go in there and doing what they 586 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: did and obviously having a much different result than what 587 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: happened against Green Bay. I give a lot of credit 588 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: to Minnesota. They kept their head in it, they tried 589 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: to make some plays. I thought Pittsburgh had a really 590 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: good plan for justin Jefferson allowed them to build that 591 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: pushing that under. They ultimately ended up needing. I was 592 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: a little bit flabbergasted by how Mike Tomlin and the 593 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: Steelers handled those last five minutes of the game. 594 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a little rough, but. 595 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: That being said, they did find a way to pull 596 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: it out. Minnesota falls to two and two. Uh. My 597 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: other takeaway from the Bears game, Ashton Genty is very 598 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: very real. I there's a part of me that wonders 599 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: with Steve Carroll, with Pete Carroll. Excuse me, almost said 600 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: Steve Carrell. It's been a long week. 601 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: Steve Carroll, A guy named Steve Carroll was actually one 602 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: of my college baseball teammates. 603 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: By the way, that's a whole that what position? 604 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: First base? 605 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: Nice power hitter, Yes, actually big gotta have your power 606 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: on the corners. 607 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 2: Big guy Rote wrote his honors thesis on the economics 608 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: of baseball, and I proofread it for him. But anyway, 609 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: that's cool. There we go. I hope you gotten a 610 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: Sorry you just mentioned name like Steve Carroll and all 611 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 2: these men come back. Steve, I have no idea if 612 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 2: you're out there and listening to this, but anyway, you 613 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: just got You just got your moment in the sun 614 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: and backers scripts scripted my old my old teammate and 615 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 2: economics major. Anyway. 616 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: But but my point I was going to try to 617 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: make before I ended up watching. You know, one of 618 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: the most longest tenured head coaches in the National Football 619 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: League is the fact that correct, you know, Carrol's offenses 620 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: when they have been most successful in Seattle always had 621 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: that type of back. Yeah, it was the offense was 622 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: built around him. I think Gent can be that guy. 623 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: But but to the Bears credit, man, they found a 624 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: way to win that football game, even though it was 625 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: a road game. As you mentioned, there's still a lot 626 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: of Bears fans there. But at the end of the day, 627 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: you have to be able to pull those out. It's 628 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: going to be competitive, man. I said it the day 629 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: after the Packers beat the Lions. I mean, the Lions 630 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: are not going anywhere, no, And it's a good thing 631 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: Green Bay picked up that win, because if you don't 632 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: do that there the Lions would be sitting and undefeated 633 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: here at the quarter pole. 634 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and for all of the hair pulling and everything 635 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 2: else that's going on, you know, there are thirteen games 636 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: left in this thing. The Packers have played exactly one 637 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: Division game and they got a win in that one 638 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: Division game. There are five to vision games left. Those 639 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: are going to be obviously of heightened importance as they 640 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 2: as they always are. But this is going to be 641 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 2: a long, tough slog in the NFC North. I think 642 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 2: there are a lot of good teams in this mix again, 643 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: just as there were last year, and there's it's going 644 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: to be a long time in my opinion before this 645 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: gets sorted out. 646 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: And you got to win the games that are in 647 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: front of you. Man. Baltimore Ravens right now are one 648 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: and three in the season, Kansas City's two and two, 649 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: and only one of those teams is going to be 650 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: able to get the two in the win column out 651 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: of that matchup. It is, as I've said time and 652 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: time again, it is difficult to win in this league. 653 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: And you know, records are not created equal. I mean 654 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: there was that one statistic too. If Spencer Rattlers still 655 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: has not won an NFL game. I think he's zero 656 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: to ten now as a starting quarterback. The Washington Commanders 657 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: were flying high, and then Jaden Daniels gets hurt, and 658 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: now Atlanta, who couldn't move the ball on anybody, ends 659 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: up having a really strong offensive performance. Drake London finally 660 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: has a big game for that offense. 661 00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, if you think the Packers have been a 662 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: little bit of jecky and hide here in the first 663 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: month of the regular season, look at what's been going 664 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: on around the league with whether you're talking about the 665 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 2: Falcons or the Panthers or even the Buccaneers to a 666 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 2: certain extent. Who you know, they're pulling out all these 667 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 2: last second victories in the first three weeks, but then 668 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: you know they run into Philadelphia and now the Eagles 669 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 2: are sitting there at four and oh. 670 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: And to be fair, I mean, this is what good 671 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: teams do, though, right, Buffalo's four and oh, the Eagles 672 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: are four and oh. When you are a front runner, 673 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: when you are a contender, you are consistent. That is 674 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: the translation. Everybody can do it at a high level 675 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: from the most cases in this league, it's who does 676 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: it in all three phases on the most consistent basis. 677 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: That's what the biggest learning lesson has to be for 678 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: green Bay out of this first month of the year. 679 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: This team can compete with anybody. They have the talent 680 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: to win a super Bowl this season, but doing it 681 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: down in, down out, eliminating the mistakes, protecting the football 682 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 1: and taking it away. Yeah, as I look at this 683 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: team going into October, that's where green Bay needs to improve. 684 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: YEA. Can they reach a level at which they can 685 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 2: sustain their level of play on a consistent basis over 686 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: the course of time. Not that you're not going to 687 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: have some ups and downs, but the ups and downs 688 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 2: through the first four weeks have been a little bit. 689 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: It's been too much of a swing back and forth, 690 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: and the Packers need to get to a certain level 691 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 2: and even that out, and then I think they can 692 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: put together the season they're looking for. 693 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: And that's the most exciting thing. Offensively, they have the 694 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: firepower to put up points like they did against Dallas. Defensively, 695 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: they have the assets there to shut down a team 696 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: like Detroit. Just getting it all to converge at the 697 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: same moment. 698 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely. With that, we'll call it a rap on this 699 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 2: edition of Packers unscripted and because it is the bye week, 700 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: this is our only show this week, so we went 701 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: a little bit long. Hopefully we made up for it 702 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 2: a little bit. We will be back next week when 703 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: the Packers are back preparing for the Cincinnati Bengals. So 704 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: for Wes, I am Mike, thank you for tuning in everybody, 705 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: and we will see you next time.