1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. It's Friday, everybody. Welcome to the Clay 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. A lot going on out there, 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: and I know that it is a holiday weekend, more 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: day weekend we're going into, so people are getting ready 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: to go hit the road or get up in the 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: skies to travel to see friends, friends and family. And 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: there's both celebration and a solemnity this weekend. Celebration of 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: this country and the freedoms that we have, and solemnity 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: at the remembrance of those who gave their lives so 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: that we could have those freedoms. But for a lot 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: of you, I know it's closing the last few hours 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: here of the day, perhaps as you're getting ready or 14 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: maybe you've just got to finish out the workday. So 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Clay and I are going to talk to about a 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff we have, for example, the the 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: ongoing this is going to be something, it's going to 18 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: be a store. We're talking about a lot here. Ron 19 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: de Santist, Donald Trump. That primary interesting also to see 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: the Democrat response the Biden, the Biden apparatus response to 21 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: this now, and you're starting to get a sense as 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: to maybe whether they're hoping they get one candidate or 23 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: the other, how they're going to play it from the outside, 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: how they're going to cover all this, and we'll certainly 25 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: discuss that. In a couple of Democrat controlled cities, we 26 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: have some interesting stuff going on. One is London breed 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 2: You see this. 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: Booed booed at a meeting to try to address the 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: fentanyl crisis. And you know, we just saw our I 31 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: just saw Dave Rubin down here in Florida recently, and 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: he's a buddy of ours and he had just been 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: in San Francisco and was sharing videos of it, you know, 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: online on Twitter, and it is what people say it is. 35 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: It has turned into a mess. There are parts of 36 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: the downtown that have the feel of a zombie apocalypse. 37 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: And what's happening is you've got people that are extremely 38 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: addicted to drugs who are committing crimes as well as 39 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: you know, quality of life violations for everybody else to 40 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: feed their drug habit and they're overdosing and I'm presidential rates, 41 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: So that's going on in San Francisco. We can address 42 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: that Mayor Adams in New York City. I almost couldn't 43 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: believe this, but he's looking at a homeless bill of rights. 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: This is what they're calling it, the homeless bill of 45 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: Rights that will allow for a homeless people to camp 46 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: on the streets. This is going to do what you've 47 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: seen in Portland and LA and San Francisco and Austin. 48 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: A lot of this in Austin, Texas when I was 49 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: there a couple of years ago. I'm not sure if 50 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: they've tried to start cleaning it up yet or not, 51 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: but people camping out on the streets bad news. The 52 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: debt ceiling is still a thing. Is the economy going 53 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: to get driven off a cliff by this? We will address. 54 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: But first off, you know, play occasionally we have a 55 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: moment here on this show that all the other shows 56 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: have to talk about. Hat tip to you, sir for 57 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: asking about a pardon for Donald Trump if Ronda Santis 58 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: becomes the president. Obviously becoming the just the nominee is 59 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: not a you know, it would be fun if you 60 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: had pardon powers of nominee that that would really spice 61 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: things up. But here is a bunch of places talking 62 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: about what we talked about. So here's your Friday montage 63 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: play one. 64 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: The newly official presidential candidate ron De Santis. 65 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 4: Was just asked if he pardoned January sixth insurrectionist. 66 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 5: Governor DeSantis has said he would look at. 67 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 6: Pardons pardoning January sixth riders. 68 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: Rond de Santis today it said he was open to 69 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: January sixth pardons. 70 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 7: De Santis made the comments on a conservative radio show. 71 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: He made the comments on a radio show. 72 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 7: Appearing on a conservative talk show today. 73 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 6: The governor told another conservative radio host. 74 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 7: DeSantis was asked today if he would pardon January sixth 75 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 7: rioters and possibly Trump. 76 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 6: And he'd also consider parting Donald Trump, suggests. 77 00:03:58,680 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 8: That they could pardon Trump. 78 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 6: Ronda Santis today today said he consider pardoning Donald Trump. 79 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: Can I just say, Clay to me, what's interesting here? 80 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: Not only that you know, we're making the global news 81 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 1: cycle on this one, Well done, sir, but also you 82 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: can see that they're they're hedging their bets right. They 83 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: want to make sure that Joe Biden stays and I 84 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: don't really care about anything other than that, you know, 85 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: and you could see they're already setting up if let's 86 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: just say it were a Ronda Santis win in the primary. 87 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: He's connected to January sixth to two. He's just as 88 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: bad fascism is coming to America. They're gonna do the thing. 89 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: We can see them doing the thing. 90 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: Well, I saw Liz Cheney tweeted, and I'm paraphrasing, it's 91 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 4: a if you are willing to pardon anyone from January sixth, there, 92 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: Donald Trump, you're not qualified to be president. And I 93 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 4: would establish if you are running for the Republican nomination, 94 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: the Liz Cheney rule. Almost anything she tweets, you should 95 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: do the opposite of. But but there are a couple 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 4: things that I think are significant, and I'm glad you 97 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 4: know that that this conversation took place, because I do 98 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: think it's important, and I have not heard any other 99 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 4: Republican candidate for president say that he would consider pardoning Trump. Now, 100 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 4: people remember who listened to this show. I think it 101 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 4: was on Wednesday show, maybe tuesdays. I said, look to me, 102 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: this is a matter of principle, and I think it 103 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 4: is a strong statement to make that, regardless of what 104 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 4: your personal misgivings might be about Trump, if you're running 105 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 4: against him for the Republican nomination, you should be standing 106 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: on principle that the idea of putting a leading presidential 107 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 4: candidate or a former president in jail for a crime 108 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 4: that is purely being prosecuted based on politics, I'm leaving 109 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 4: out look if the president former president shoots someone right, 110 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 4: like a driving accident for that correct, But I'm talking 111 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 4: about something you theoretically, yeah, I'm talking about something that 112 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 4: is purely political in nature. I think every Republican should 113 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 4: line up running for president and say we're not going 114 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 4: to allow Trump to be put in prison for federal 115 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 4: related charges. 116 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: You know what I thought about yesterday when you said this, 117 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: and I think it's it's interesting because it goes right 118 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: to the dynamics of the primary going on right now. 119 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: Because to me and we're an agreement on this one, 120 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: it is both the ethical and politically savvy move for 121 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: say I'm going to pardon Trump. It's ethical because I 122 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: do we all know that the Get Trump operation is 123 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: completely insane. They've got so many criminal cases and everything 124 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: else that we can't even keep it all straight. And 125 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: then politically, because it shows a willingness to rise above parties, 126 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: rise above intra party rivalry, to just do the right thing. 127 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: Under the circumstances. But I think you're not hearing any 128 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: of the other primary candidates say it, because to even 129 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: say that out loud is an admission that maybe Donald 130 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: Trump isn't going to be the nominee and then the president. 131 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's like you can't even 132 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: say that well because those. 133 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 4: Eyes are not really running against Trump, right, there's really 134 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 4: so far in the presidential race. There's DeSantis running against Trump, 135 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: and everybody else is running to hope to be in 136 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: the Trump administration. That's what it feels like to me. Now, 137 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 4: the other part of this buck that I think is significant. 138 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 4: I mentioned this yesterday and I don't know if Joe Biden. 139 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 4: Certainly Biden's not smart enough to think through this, but 140 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 4: it would be a political master stroke for Joe Biden 141 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: to actually pardon Trump because then he can say this 142 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 4: I'm standing on principle, and I think it would actually 143 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 4: play really well with independence because I don't think independents 144 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 4: want Trump to go to jail. 145 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: It shows that he wants calm, normalcy. It's what he 146 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: claimed he wanted when he ran for pres. Twenty twenty, 147 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: Joe Biden should say that you rather twenty twenty Joe 148 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: Biden if he were making a comeback here, I totally 149 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: agree with you that that is the ultimate, really alpha 150 00:07:58,920 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: dog move. 151 00:07:59,600 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: Too. 152 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 4: I'm gonna beat his ass in the election, so I'm 153 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 4: not even afraid of Trump, and I'm going to keep 154 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: him from going to prison. 155 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: But I think there's also almost note I'd say like 156 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: a ten percent chance of it. It's not zero chance. 157 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: But because the Biden base has been told, yeah, that 158 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: Trump is going to prison, they really believe that, and 159 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: now I think they're actually trying to make it a reality. 160 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: So so pardoning him in any capacity for Joe Biden 161 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: what I I don't know. It depends whether they get 162 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: the messaging that this is necessary for them to retain power, 163 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: or you know, if there's some advantage to them. But 164 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: I think in general, emotionally they demand Trump in handcuffs, 165 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: which is completely insane. 166 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 4: I don't think Biden is adroit enough politically to pull 167 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,439 Speaker 4: it off, because the guy can barely read off a teleprompter. 168 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 4: If he could go out, I mean, this is the 169 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 4: soul of the nation stuff that Biden likes to sell 170 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 4: all the time. Oh, I'm here to heal the soul 171 00:08:59,120 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 4: of the nation. 172 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: No. 173 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 4: Really, he's been the worst president in any of our lives, 174 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 4: and he's been wildly divisive. So this would actually follow 175 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 4: the rhetoric that he is not allowed to be implemented 176 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 4: in any way so far in his presidency. 177 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: I don't think he'll do it. 178 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 4: That's the one thing I wonder, because remember, you would 179 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 4: still have New York and Georgia potentially with the criminal 180 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 4: cases against Trump, so you'd still have the criminal element 181 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 4: out there that the president doesn't have any control over. 182 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: This would just allow this to go away. 183 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 4: Maybe the play is Biden pardons Hunter too, and pardons 184 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 4: Trump and thinks that if he pardons Hunter and he says, 185 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 4: this is just an example of how toxic our politics 186 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 4: I've gotten. I'm gonna pardon the president and I'm gonna 187 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 4: pardon my son. Maybe then that's the way that he 188 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 4: keeps Hunter out of the lions den, so to speak. 189 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 4: Maybe that is a play. But again, I just don't 190 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 4: think that politically Biden is a strong enough leader or 191 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 4: just a fascil enough thinker to work his way to 192 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 4: making a rational, reasonable, risky move that would actually redound, 193 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 4: I think much to his benefit. 194 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: You know, I'm having some twenty sixteen flashbacks in a 195 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: few ways, but one of them is you're already starting 196 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: to see because remember, going on twenty twenty, there was 197 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: it was all it was Trump and the Republican Party 198 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: was ninety eight percent ninety nine percent behind Trump the 199 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: president obviously, And this time around, though, it's a little 200 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: bit like it wasn't twenty sixteen where you had you know, 201 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: there were Rubio supporters and Ted Cruz. I remember because 202 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,359 Speaker 1: I was out there. You know, Ruby Ted Cruz supporters. 203 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: There were like two or three K Sich supporters who 204 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: would go on TV or K six supporters. You know, 205 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: they're a head full of others out there. I can't 206 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: even I can't even remember off the top of my 207 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: head all the different I think there were nineteen candidates. 208 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: But did you see that we had Josh Hammer, who's 209 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: editor at large at Newsweek, who's a DeSantis guy. A 210 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: Caroline l who we just had on the show earlier 211 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: this week. She is a MAGA Inc. Official spokesman. You know, 212 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: it's uh, we're starting to see the rumbles happen here 213 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. Here they are on I think this 214 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: is a Newsmax play clip. 215 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: Six Desantas's botched campaign announcement proves that he and his 216 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 3: team are not ready for prime time. He proposes a 217 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: national federal sales tax. He voted to cut social Security. 218 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: He has no plan to end the war in Ukraine. 219 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: President Trump cut taxes, secure the border, reinvested in our economy. 220 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 3: He is the day one leader that America needs. 221 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 9: Look, I mean, Carolyn has the talking points, and that's 222 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 9: ket and everything. But the reality here is that we 223 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 9: talking primary voters are ready for a winner. They are 224 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 9: sick of losing. They are sick of relitigating an election 225 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 9: from two and a half years ago. They are sick 226 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 9: of Stormy Daniels and all of the crap. His country 227 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 9: is going to be telling and Dan Basket, it's time 228 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 9: to put policy on the agenda and to start winning. 229 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 3: You're reciting your Democrat talking points. My talking points are 230 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: truth and the pulse. 231 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: Prove it. I mean, it's a little feisty. It's a 232 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: quick exchange, but there was some feisty. Look Trump team 233 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: to say this team, you're gonna hear some of this 234 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: stuff for sure, But to me that was like the 235 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: opening salvo of Oh, that's right, we're gonna have a 236 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: primary with people debating the different candidates on cable news. 237 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: There's gonna be official spokesman, official surrogate, so strap in everybody, 238 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: we've moved from everybody's on the same team to you 239 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: never know when you're gonna turn around and just get 240 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: decked on from somebody in your own side. And look, 241 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: the reality is this should make everybody way stronger. Trump 242 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: could not have won in twenty sixteen. I don't think 243 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: if he hadn't gone through the gauntlet that was all 244 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: of the challengers A rated against him in twenty sixteen 245 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: and Trump twenty twenty so far as he gets ready 246 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four, has not been the best version 247 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: of Trump yet. I think he needs to get out 248 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: on the hustings, so to speak. I think he needs 249 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: to be having his rallies. I think he needs to 250 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: be throwing punches, and you're gonna see a lot of that. 251 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: I think that. 252 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 4: Back and forth between Caroline and Josh that we just 253 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 4: play actually really good. 254 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: And no, this is it's it's good TV. This is 255 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: what I mean by this stump has to happen the primary. 256 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: You know, Josh was thrown down, Carolyn was thrown down. 257 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: There's gonna be there's gonna be more of this. And 258 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: I always said this, this is the when I think 259 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: of cable news, and you know news Max is obviously 260 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: cable channel. This is this is what I always used 261 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: to This was it was the people fighting. And really 262 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: the origins of this. You could even take it back 263 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: to William F. Buckley and Gore Vidal at one of 264 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: the presidential elections many many decades ago on TV. They 265 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: had the point counterpoint, you know, Democrat Republican and I 266 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: sit here and I just I don't know, hearkening back 267 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: to the old times, my friend. I think we're gonna 268 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: see a lot more of it, and it's gonna get uh, 269 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: it's gonna get pretty interesting. 270 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 10: Yeah. 271 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: Well and again so far and maybe there's gonna be 272 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 4: a third force that descends. The DeSantis people announced they 273 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 4: raised eight point two million yesterday in the first twenty 274 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 4: four hours of his campaign. That's more than anybody's ever 275 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: raised in the history of presientinential campaigns. Biden actually had 276 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 4: the record back in twenty nineteen when they tapped all 277 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 4: the Obama donors UH to try to UH to get 278 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 4: to him six point four million. The amount of money 279 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: that DeSantis is gonna have. 280 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: Is it. 281 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't see if there's going to be 282 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 4: a third candidate who's able to emerge. I think this 283 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 4: is going to be a real mono amano throwing big 284 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 4: punches at each other. At this point, we're. 285 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: Gonna come back in at more of this eight hundred 286 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: and two eighty two two eight a two. And also 287 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: there's one political analyst out there who is saying that 288 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: DeSantis should just drop out entirely Clay, and we're gonna 289 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: have to address her very uh in depth arguments from 290 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: the view. 291 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 4: Oh real course, we'll address theod friends at the View, 292 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 4: good friends at the View when we come back here. 293 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: But you know, as we headed him a more of 294 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: the weekend, it's important to take a moment and reflect 295 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: on all the men and women in our military who've 296 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: made the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom. One organization we 297 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: are so proud to partner with here on the show 298 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: is the Tala Towers Foundation. They've been supporting our heroes 299 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: and their families since nine to eleven. That extends to cops, 300 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: first responders, and firemen. In fact, Tunnel the Towers was 301 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: started by the brother of a fireman lost on that 302 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: tragic day. The foundation does so much, including a variety 303 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: of runs, walks, and charity climbs. In fact, next weekend, 304 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: my wife Carrie is going to be participating in the 305 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: Tunnel the Towers Climb at one World Trade Center in 306 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: New York City. 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You'll see the link to Carrie's page for 316 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: her team for the climb. One hundred and four Stories 317 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: also posted on that page as the story of how 318 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: Tunnel the Towers came to be. It's remarkable, it's sober, 319 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: and it's so important and powerful. So this Memorial Day, 320 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: while everyone's celebrating a three day weekend and gathering with 321 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: family and friends, Let's also remember those who are not 322 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: able to do that or are missing a loved one 323 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: at the table. Please head over to Claanbuck dot com. 324 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: You'll find a link to Carrie's donation page. Please support 325 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: her climb for Tunnel the Towers so that we the 326 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: American people will keep our sacred obligation to support our 327 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: heroes and their families. Any amount is appreciated. Any amount 328 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: you can give go to Clayanbuck dot com. You'll find 329 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: a link to the donation page for Carrie's climb Today The. 330 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 9: Voices of Sanity in an Insane World Clay Travis Sad 331 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 9: buck Sexton. 332 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Appreciate all 333 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 4: of you hanging out with us on Friday as we 334 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 4: head into a fabulous holiday weekend. I want to play 335 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: for you, our good friends at the view. Is this 336 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 4: Joy behard Buck who is arguing that DeSantis needs to. 337 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: Drop out of the race already. It is Clay, you 338 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: man explaining Sportsman. 339 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 4: Listen and to the call from Joy Bahar that it's 340 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 4: time for DeSantis to drop out. 341 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: Of the race. 342 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 8: I think about him sometimes when I'm lying in bed 343 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 8: nothing else to think about, and I think. You know, 344 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 8: this guy is really as a non starter here because 345 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 8: he can't get past this base because his Magaza megabase. 346 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 8: They drank the kool aid for Trump, not for him. 347 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 8: There's not enough kool aid in the world, so he 348 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 8: can't get past the base. He can't attack Trump. You 349 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 8: want to go up against Trump, you got to attack him, 350 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 8: But he can't because the mega base will turn on him. 351 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 8: It's a miss, you know. 352 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 11: Just get out of the race. 353 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 8: You're not gonna win. Nothing's gonna happen for him. 354 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 1: Nothing. 355 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 4: I love the idea by the way of Joy Bahar, 356 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 4: just laying in bed dreaming about Ron DeSantis here. But 357 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 4: so what what is her response? Not that we think 358 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 4: Joy Bahar is an astute political analyst at all. She 359 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: hates Trump. Joy Bahart does buck with every fiber of 360 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 4: her being. So it's amazing how many of these people 361 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 4: who claim to profess to hate Trump and believe he's 362 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 4: a union threat also don't want anybody to run against him. 363 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: What's their game plan there? I think it's worth thinking about. 364 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 4: Remember all those free cell phone offers used to hear 365 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 4: about from one cell phone company or another. They sound 366 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 4: great at the beginning, but the details emerge and there's 367 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 4: all kinds of strings attached. 368 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: You know who doesn't do that? Pure Talk Only Pure 369 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: Talk will give you. 370 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 4: A free five G Samsung Galaxy phone without the feeling 371 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 4: you've been hijacked. 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Switch to pure Talk today. 382 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 4: Puretalk Wireless four Americans, buy Americans. Let's take a little 383 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 4: look over at how things are. 384 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 1: Going in Democrat land for a second. Remember, Joe Biden 385 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: is not doing so well these days. And I don't 386 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: just mean when you look and you see and you hear, 387 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: but also based on the polls, which is the only 388 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: data that we have about perception right now, and even 389 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: over at Biden HQ also known as CNN, they're saying, look, 390 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: the numbers are looking really bad right now for Joe Biden. 391 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 11: Play clip nine, horrible news, horrible for Joe Biden and 392 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 11: our new CNN Paul. Two thirds of all of the 393 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 11: American people surveyed, sixty six percent of the public say 394 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 11: that a Biden victory would either be a setback or 395 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 11: a disaster for the United States. 396 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: Those are some bad numbers. 397 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 12: Well, I mean just your basic favorability, favorable opinion or 398 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 12: unfavorable of Joe Biden. Look at how Americans are rating him, Jake, 399 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 12: I mean thirty five percent favorable. That is remarkably low. 400 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 12: Fifty seven percent have an unfavorable rating. And look at 401 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 12: this by party. Look at this decline among Independence from 402 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 12: December thirty five percent favorable rating in December, he's now 403 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 12: down at twenty six percent favorable with Independence. 404 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: Now, this is interesting to be clay, because on the 405 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: one hand, it's it's just you could say it's really early, 406 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: and you know, Poles don't really matter right now, Okay, 407 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: but I have to think that independents are more and 408 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: more fed up with just the lack of execution on 409 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: the promises of the Biden administration. High inflation numbers, mortgage 410 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: is super high right now, there's there's some day to 411 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: day stuff that I think independents are probably and the 412 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: mess that is the border that no one can even 413 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: try to defend right now. And so then that brings 414 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: me to they're still talking about RFK Junior and he 415 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be going away. You know, you had 416 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: him on, you did that interview with him. I wanted 417 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: to again over at Biden HQ CNN. They're talking about 418 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: RFK Junior. Play clip ten. Robert F. 419 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 6: Kennedy Junior is not going away. He is polling at 420 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 6: twenty percent in our latest CNN poll, twenty percent against 421 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 6: a sitting Democratic president, Joe bideny way, this is the 422 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 6: second poll showing this in a month, and I think 423 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 6: what stands out about it is not just that it 424 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 6: is big. It is that it is consistent and it 425 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 6: is not an outlier. 426 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 7: It's non an outlier. Right So, our CNN poll had 427 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 7: Kennedy at twenty percent. We've had two Fox polls out 428 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 7: in the last month. 429 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: One had him at. 430 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 7: Sixteen percent, the other one had him at nineteen percent. 431 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 7: And so we're seeing this very consistent sort of range 432 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 7: of Kennedy somewhere between fifteen and twenty percent. 433 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: Who comprises play RFK Junior's twenty percent within the Democrat 434 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: stealth primary, if you will, that's going on run. 435 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great question. I think it's people who 436 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 4: are just reasonable and logical, and I think there is 437 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 4: and some of these people are listening to us, by 438 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 4: the way, right now. I think there are Democrats that 439 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: are they've seen the light on COVID and the lies 440 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 4: that they were told, and this is when we had 441 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 4: RFK Junior on. Look, there are lots of things that 442 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 4: you're going to disagree with any politician on. But RFK Junior, 443 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 4: to his credit, is the only Democrat politician who's been 444 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 4: in one hundred percent right about COVID just about and 445 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 4: also Buck he's the only Democrat I've seen who's come 446 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 4: out and said, hey, you know, boys shouldn't be able 447 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 4: to identify as girls and go win girls' championships. Not 448 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 4: a single Democrat in Congress, not a single Democrat right 449 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 4: now anywhere in a prominent position that I can see. 450 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 4: And when I hear all those numbers, Joe Biden is 451 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 4: going to be the weakest incumbent president in any of 452 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 4: our lives. Doesn't mean he can't win. But I actually 453 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 4: am more fascinated than the Republican debate of who's going 454 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: to go against Biden, which obviously we're going to be 455 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 4: having from now all the way until probably the end 456 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 4: of March, when maybe a nominee is selected for Republicans. 457 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 4: Why is nobody challenging Biden other than RFK Junior and 458 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 4: Mary Ann Williamson. To me, when RFK Junior and Mary 459 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 4: Anne Williamson, who was obviously a total you know, new 460 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 4: age sort of what would you call her? Like a 461 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: life coach? Yeah, like a life coach. 462 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 10: Yeah. 463 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 4: And I don't mean anything negative about it, but I 464 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 4: mean she's just clearly not an upper to your candidate. 465 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 4: If you've got thirty percent of people that will support 466 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 4: RFK Junior and UH and Mary Ann Williamson, why in 467 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 4: the world would there not be a legitimate candidate run 468 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 4: against Biden? 469 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: Because I think you would win. Well, they they won't. 470 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: Because I think that the power of the incumbency is 471 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: always over as underrated in discussions about this stuff until 472 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: the rubber really meets the road and you're in the 473 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: thick of the election, and you've got you know, rallies happening, 474 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: and you got people showing up, and you got the 475 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: numbers and the media frenzy, and it feels like it's 476 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: getting closer to be the president who is running to 477 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: keep the job. I just think that's an advantage that 478 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: they wouldn't want to get, you know, that they wouldn't 479 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: want to even consider giving up, Right, I get it. 480 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 4: I think Buck, everything probabilistically, right, So when there are 481 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 4: a ton of people running for president, the odds of 482 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 4: any one individual winning are actually fairly low. Right, But 483 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 4: if you were a legitimate candidate running against Biden right now, 484 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 4: you might have a ten or fifteen percent chance of 485 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 4: getting elected president. I mean a legitimate Democrat who is 486 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 4: just not dementia riddled able to actually have a conversation. 487 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 4: You know what's unfortunate for RFK Junior and people heard 488 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 4: this conversation that we had on the show, Buck, he's 489 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 4: got major vocal cord injuries which make it difficult for 490 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 4: him to communicate what happened. What happened? I need to 491 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 4: look that up because it was a virus. I think 492 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 4: that he got on his vocal folds that led to 493 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 4: him having I mean, if you've listened to him talk, 494 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 4: it really makes it difficult for him to communicate. His 495 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 4: voice is not all there. And I don't even know 496 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 4: buck whether he has the ability to talk like for 497 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 4: three hours every day, right, you know, just in terms 498 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 4: of which is important when you're running for office, I. 499 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: Don't know if I've ever I think I told the 500 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: story on the show in the first year of the show. 501 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: The first time I ever filled in for Rush, I 502 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: had to get a steroid shot to open my vocal 503 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: cords because I had such a bad throat infection. That's 504 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: that's the kind of stuff you're doing radio world, taking 505 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: roids for your vocal cords. 506 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's always like kind of a fear 507 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 4: for anybody in radio. I know Rush struggled with his hearing. 508 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 4: But the only two things that we really have to 509 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 4: have to do high quality radio, or at least the 510 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 4: radio that you consider worthy of listening to. I hope 511 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 4: it's high quality is have the ability to speak and 512 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: have the ability to hear. 513 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: And difficult voice is a huge that's a huge problem 514 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: for a political candidate though, just to be honest, it 515 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: really is. I think even more so than you know, 516 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: appearance issues or you know. I mean, look, Joe Biden 517 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: looks too old for the job, obviously, and that's not 518 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: that's not an you know, an agist comment. It's a 519 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: he looks like he is declining. He can't you know, 520 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: he can't walk. He looks like somebody who needs to 521 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: be helped around by you know, twenty four to seven 522 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: care yep. And instead he's got the nuclear codes. It's 523 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: not really what we're looking for. 524 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 4: So probabilistically, you know, if you're Pritzker, or you're Gavin Newsom, 525 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 4: or you are Eric Adams, I don't know somebody who 526 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 4: has aspirations to one day be president of the United 527 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 4: States and has in some way a pedestal, right, a 528 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 4: position of political influence right now, why wouldn't you throw 529 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 4: your hat in the ring against Biden. I mean, there's 530 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 4: thirty percent of Democrat voters that are saying, hey, I'll 531 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 4: go with RFK Junior or with Mary Ann Williamson. I'm 532 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 4: not sure Biden, you know, would would be able to 533 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 4: run as truly challenging campaign to be the Democrat nominee. 534 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: I don't think when we talk about the Democrat apparatus. Right, 535 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: if you had gone up against Obama as a Democrat 536 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: while he was in office, you were going to be finished, 537 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: DENI only forever? 538 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: Yeah right. 539 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: I mean I don't just mean you would win. I 540 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: mean there would be a vindictive campaign of punishment and 541 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: expelling you from you know, the big donor parties and ever. 542 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: You know, you'd be gone. Hillary was the apparatus candidate 543 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, and we all know how that worked out, 544 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: but they chose her over Biden. I bring it up 545 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: because I don't think that the the Democrat apparatus of 546 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: today feels any loyalty to Biden at all. He was 547 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: just what they had on shelf when the customers, you know, 548 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: needed something, and that was what they went for. So 549 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: I think he's in a weaker place now because the 550 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: top people, he doesn't have top advisors around him, he 551 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: doesn't have powerful people movers and shakers who are loyal 552 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: to Joe Biden. They're loyal to Democrat in the Oval office. 553 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: That's all they care about. 554 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 555 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 4: And the other thing I would add here is I 556 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 4: think the power of institutions is collapsing. And when I 557 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 4: say the power of institutions is collapsing. 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Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 597 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 4: A few of you want to weigh in on a 598 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 4: variety of topics that we have been discussing so far. Today, 599 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 4: let's go down to Diane in Melbourne, Florida. 600 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: What you got for us. 601 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 10: Diane, Well, I wanted to say that a lot of 602 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 10: people in Florida are really pissed off that DeSantis is 603 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 10: running for president. You know, we feel we got a 604 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 10: bait and switch. We spent a lot of time and 605 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 10: energy and money to get him reelected for four years, 606 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 10: and apparently he knew he was going to immediately run 607 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 10: for president and he didn't bother to. So since November 608 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 10: he've been out of the state on you know, a 609 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 10: lecture tour, book signing tour, pre announcement tour. Now he's 610 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 10: going on a post announcement tour. 611 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 4: So, Diane, to be fair, I mean, he waited until 612 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 4: the legislative session was finished and stacked up a lot 613 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 4: of wins. What do you think he's not doing as 614 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 4: Florida governor that you would want to see him doing 615 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 4: right now? 616 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 10: Well, no, that's not the point. The point is he 617 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 10: knew he was going to run for president. He should 618 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 10: never have run for governor again, he should have another 619 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 10: Republican then he could have just spent his time running 620 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 10: for president. 621 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: But I mean, think about all the people Diana that 622 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: or leslie pardon me, that that would exclude from running 623 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: for office. I mean everyone's either a governor or a 624 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: senator pretty much that runs for office, right, So, I mean, 625 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: did you see what I'm saying Like that, that's just 626 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: kind of the way it is. Trump was the very, 627 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: very exception who came in not from a political background. 628 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: But if you look at everybody who's running right now, 629 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: they all have current political jobs. 630 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and other than Trump, it's an interesting called Diane 631 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 4: and Melbourne. 632 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: We'll get a couple more calls here too. But you know, look, 633 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: she's totally right. I mean, if she finds it annoying 634 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: and she wants to be the governor here, I get it. 635 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: I get it. I just I don't know if this is. 636 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 4: This argument is interesting to me, Buck, because you do 637 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 4: hear it sometimes if you like somebody so much as 638 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 4: governor that you don't want them to have a bigger job. 639 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 4: I don't know that I've ever heard that argument before. 640 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: Right. 641 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 4: You would never say, hey, this triple A baseball player 642 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 4: is so good at Triple A baseball, I don't want 643 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 4: him to go to the major leagues, right, Like, no, 644 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 4: I guess if you are a huge fan of a 645 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 4: minor league team. And by the way, if he loses, 646 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 4: which right now, the gambling markets would suggest that he 647 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 4: is going to lose. He'll go right back to being 648 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 4: your governor by March, full time for three more years. 649 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 4: So if you maybe there are people, I mean that 650 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 4: that'll be a question for people like you, Buck who 651 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 4: live in Florida. In the primary, when you get into March, 652 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 4: maybe there are people out there listening to us in 653 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 4: Florida who were like, Hey, I'm voting against DeSantis in 654 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 4: the Florida primary for the president. I want to keep 655 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 4: him as myself my governor. 656 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 1: Right, Look, I get That's what I mean. I get it. 657 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not dismissing. Oh no, what it was Diane. 658 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we had two Florida calls here. It was Diane. 659 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm not dismissing what she says at all. I get it. 660 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: And I as a Floridian now I got concerns too. 661 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, who's next, I mean, who would take over? 662 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: But if it is the fact, and let's all remember, 663 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: and we're very cognizant of this year, Trump is still 664 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: way ahead in the polls. Trump is still very much 665 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: the favorite, the odds on favorite. We we we live 666 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: in realityville, for sure. But if it were the choice 667 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: of the Republican electorate that Ron Desanta should be the 668 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: president of the United States. I think you got I 669 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: think I think you put country before state in that situation. 670 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: I think that would be the approach that a lot 671 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: of folks would take, but not everybody. And I get that. 672 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: Mike in Pennsylvania, what's going on? 673 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 5: Mike, Hey, guys, Claybob, thanks for all you do. I 674 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 5: was on a Trump train obviously in sixteen and seventeen. 675 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 5: I'm ready for some change, you know. I'm really looking 676 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 5: forward to Santis and I think he's the guy. Appreciate 677 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 5: it and thanks. Have a free holiday. 678 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: All right, cool, Thank you have a good holiday week. 679 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: And two, Mike, I appreciates you. Now time for Leslie 680 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, Florida. Leslie, what do you got for us? 681 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: Yes, I wanted to say I agree with everything that 682 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 2: Diane said. I'm from Jacksonville, Florida. Love Ron DeSantis, voted 683 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 2: for him for governor, but want him to stay the governor. 684 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 2: I felt I feel very loyal to Trump. I think 685 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 2: it's disloyal to Trump for him to run. And I 686 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 2: feel like the Democrats have done a good job of 687 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 2: wearing all these people down that were like, oh, I 688 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 2: voted for tru twice, but I'm changing that's exactly what 689 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 2: they wanted. 690 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 4: Now, Okay, why do you think they want that? Sorry 691 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 4: to cut you off, because I think it's an interesting, 692 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 4: interesting point that you're making, Leslie. You're saying, oh, I 693 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 4: think the Democrats are trying to, you know, basically wear 694 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 4: down the Trump supporters. 695 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: And say move on. 696 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 4: I mean, ultimately, I'm guessing your goal, Leslie is to 697 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 4: have a Republican in as the president in twenty twenty four, right, 698 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 4: And my position on that would be Democrats I don't 699 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 4: think are trying to push away Trump. I think if 700 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 4: Joe Biden could pick his opponent, he would pick Donald Trump. 701 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 4: I think if the DNC got to select the Republican nominee, 702 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 4: and we even hinted at this yesterday, Buck, maybe they'll 703 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 4: even spend some money supporting Trump. Joe Biden wants to 704 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 4: run against Trump, the DNC wants Trump as the nominee. 705 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 4: I guess I see it as the opposite direction. I 706 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,479 Speaker 4: don't think Democrats are trying to push Trump away at all. 707 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 4: I think they're desperate for him to be the nominee. 708 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 2: I don't know if I agree completely with that, I 709 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: feel like they are still scared of Trump. Maybe they're 710 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 2: just giving that impression, but I feel like Trump has 711 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 2: fought so hard for all of us, He's gone through 712 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: so much, and then for people to just be so 713 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 2: worn down by the Democrats to say I'm ready for change, 714 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 2: I'm ready for something different, It's like, I feel like 715 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 2: it's a total turning their back on Trump, and I'm 716 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 2: for Trump all the way. I love DeSantis, but I 717 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 2: wanted I voted him for governor. 718 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Leslie, can I just offer something? I appreciate that 719 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: you can. You can really support and respect both of 720 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: these fighters, right, I mean, you know, I just think 721 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: that's that's good to hear like that. That's a place 722 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: that I totally get it. So thank you for calling in, 723 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this one. But yeah, whoever, 724 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: someone should like Leslie's all on for Trump. But notice 725 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm all for Trump. I think just sayd 726 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: this is a great governor, Okay, cool, Like that's that's 727 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: what this is all about. It's not about one person 728 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: is like a Soros backed monster it's going to destroy 729 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: the country, and the other is awesome. So that's kind 730 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: of where we're centering the discussion.