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Speaker 4: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,
Speaker 4: Hecma Harrison, and Newie Scruggs.
Speaker 5: Plays flounds right here on Monday, Yes, sir, on a Monday,
Speaker 5: he got Heckma Harrison and he got buried Church on
Speaker 5: new he scrugs. Cowboys get that win over the weekend.
Speaker 6: Yes, and boy, old boy, old boy, I was all wrong.
Speaker 5: I had Carolina went to by point twenty twenty three. Church,
Speaker 5: you had Dallas winning twenty one seventeen. Heck, but you
Speaker 5: had the Cowboys winning seventeen to ten. Cowboys get to
Speaker 5: win thirty to fourteen. Business dominated the football game second half.
Speaker 6: So the Cowboys on their way with the pick segment.
Speaker 1: Church, you missed four games, oh four? Oh got the
Speaker 1: cowboy you't doing?
Speaker 5: You went off the rafters. Uh yeah, see you took
Speaker 5: Cleveland over Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was a bad mistake. They benched my boy,
Speaker 1: j Bo.
Speaker 6: You took You took coach Soul in Miami over Houston.
Speaker 1: In Houston are doing. You know what he's doing. You
Speaker 1: know what he doing? This attitude?
Speaker 5: This was a two we got going brain scrambled there
Speaker 5: you got. You took Detroit at home against Buffalo the dust.
Speaker 1: I played a lottery, right, baby? That was with you
Speaker 1: I took. I took Detroit Campbell tripping. We'll talk about that.
Speaker 6: I messed up taking your charges.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I told you should want with me when I
Speaker 7: don't pick the charges. You know what's happening is I
Speaker 7: took the shaking bait. You and I both took Seattle
Speaker 7: bums up there. So hecking pick everything perfect perfecto.
Speaker 8: Fact, Hey real quick, just get the books cleared. Did
Speaker 8: Church pick Cleveland?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 8: Yes, okay, so he missed five games.
Speaker 6: Cleveland twenty four twins. What was the other one?
Speaker 8: San Francisco, which was the Thursday night game?
Speaker 6: He missed that one?
Speaker 1: Okay, you started?
Speaker 8: We went, We went in San Francisco, Cleveland, I got Miami, Detroit, Seattle.
Speaker 1: That's five he went five and five? Who who they played?
Speaker 1: The Ram? The Rams got on Thursday night? Poking the man.
Speaker 5: I gotta come back right here. We got too tonight
Speaker 5: though we got to tonight tonight. He's got perfection so far.
Speaker 8: I love it when we picked ten games because it
Speaker 8: makes it much more interesting so far.
Speaker 5: But we're all basically you've seen the games tonight, we're
Speaker 5: all gonna go to the same We're all going the same place,
Speaker 5: and we're all gonna.
Speaker 1: Pack the same. Is what it is. He was going twelve.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, hey, hey, good on your baby, good on you,
Speaker 5: good on you?
Speaker 1: Good on?
Speaker 9: Hey hey hey hey, I just wonder why y'all y'all
Speaker 9: voice everything here, y'all praying when y'all talking about my
Speaker 9: wiz streak that never happened.
Speaker 1: It never I'm one away, it never happened. Hey, you
Speaker 1: never do say Now he's.
Speaker 3: Night.
Speaker 8: But here's the thing new he went perfect and week thirteen.
Speaker 8: So yeah, we only picked six games.
Speaker 1: Will picked. I can do.
Speaker 5: All I can do is do with Chris. Chris put
Speaker 5: out there he six six with ten with ten. But
Speaker 5: you know, so I have such respect we led.
Speaker 1: To show off.
Speaker 9: That's appreciated that. I appreciate that on behalf of a cliff.
Speaker 1: Cliff in the state, right, Yes, yeah, I like how
Speaker 1: you put that through.
Speaker 9: And we're talking about this the high school finals and
Speaker 9: who's going to state?
Speaker 1: But Barry put in the group chat. Dunky Field got upset.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I only follow up the high school
Speaker 10: game like that. But when I got up by Tyler School, the.
Speaker 1: North squad, they have ball like goon Goon City. It's
Speaker 1: a lot of shinty. Okay, that's goon on the fist. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got you, I got you.
Speaker 5: No Bunkingville, South lay in the state though you know
Speaker 5: your neighborhood is good.
Speaker 1: You going to the game. I ain't gonna make that one.
Speaker 1: So with the blonde so I was like, yeah, they're
Speaker 1: doing automation. You ain't doing that. I'll tell you right
Speaker 1: now what. Let me see one of the blinds crazy
Speaker 1: on Sunday. He did it. Tips Frost, the tips Hey Russell.
Speaker 1: He's in the church. He's saying it now.
Speaker 11: Something going ball this month, doing cowboys ties for the
Speaker 11: going for the the Uh. He's going for that ball
Speaker 11: that Jordan looked this month some focus for the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. That's the way you get out of
Speaker 1: it there.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 5: Rico dowdle Frost, how about that? Rico twenty five carries
Speaker 5: one hundred and forty nine yards. Dallas ran the ball
Speaker 5: forty times to Charlotte four two hundred and eleven yards.
Speaker 5: On third down, they were six of twelve. So the
Speaker 5: offense brought what they wanted to. And even more impressive
Speaker 5: was the offensive line.
Speaker 1: Yeah for this step for the Yetti cool customer, dude,
Speaker 1: either one. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 9: Okay, I'm sorry, I mean made mixing my weeks up
Speaker 9: because I know for a few few of those weeks,
Speaker 9: the Yetti coul.
Speaker 1: Customer was the whole offensive line unit. Whole unit. So
Speaker 1: I don't remember when y'all did that.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 1: I did a special team, special team. Okay, I know
Speaker 1: somebody took the up.
Speaker 5: Well, the whole thing was you know, this is, you know,
Speaker 5: just message, don't activate anything, don't get nothing back now,
Speaker 5: hero ball, just you know, just just do a regular job.
Speaker 1: So that's what they said, that's what they do. I
Speaker 1: love that play.
Speaker 9: I love those plays with Cavante Turpin when he came
Speaker 9: in on the big, big gainer that he had. Uh
Speaker 9: but ric o'dado, man, he's look, I'm not on the
Speaker 9: on the bandwagon all right completely. I'm just saying these
Speaker 9: last couple of games, ric o'dalla has showed you enough
Speaker 9: patience and he is running that thing downhill. This offensive
Speaker 9: line is giving him a two way go and I
Speaker 9: love the way that they look. I mean they look
Speaker 9: like the continuity they are jelling running back to offensive line.
Speaker 9: And Barry Chuck talked about it, how do you get
Speaker 9: how do you get a guy in a rhythm If
Speaker 9: you're always pulling him, you're giving two places and you're
Speaker 9: starting to see when a guy's able to get into
Speaker 9: a rhythm. Twenty five one forty nine. That's not bad
Speaker 9: at all. The problem that I have with Rico Daddle.
Speaker 1: Say he only has one touchdown on the season. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're having all this success, and I.
Speaker 9: Think as we as we've looked down the line at
Speaker 9: the other running backs that have had success, it's the
Speaker 9: multiple touchdowns. Then also as to it that one really
Speaker 9: is kind of like it's okay, it's a good year,
Speaker 9: it's a bad Where is he following that he only
Speaker 9: has one touchdown? He got some of those those vultured.
Speaker 12: Awaito a little bit right, didn't didn't Z come in
Speaker 12: there early on and take a couple of those little
Speaker 12: keys when you start when he gets out, you know
Speaker 12: this church, Oh, I know what they're gonna say. It's
Speaker 12: a free agent to think these papers. Let me compare
Speaker 12: you over here.
Speaker 3: To the.
Speaker 1: Analytically hurt hurt. You know what's gonna happen. It happens
Speaker 1: to all of them.
Speaker 5: He's going to get a contract offer in the off
Speaker 5: season from something. You know, he'll have offers. He's a
Speaker 5: free agent. He'll have offers.
Speaker 1: But you're going to look. You're going to look at
Speaker 1: the touchdown numbers and some of hey, when it starts
Speaker 1: with hey, it's over.
Speaker 5: We'll do this will incentivize over here, Yes, but you know,
Speaker 5: it's not like you're you know, basically, he's not getting
Speaker 5: a Josh Jacobs like he got like you know, won't
Speaker 5: we went for the Raiders to Green Bay. But there's
Speaker 5: going to be an offer, but not having the touchdowns.
Speaker 5: It's like being a corner out there, you know, a
Speaker 5: dB out there without the interceptions behind you.
Speaker 1: You know what they're gonna offer him. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they Okay, I don't see it. Okay, what do
Speaker 1: you offer? That's the question. What do they have? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't see I don't know, because I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it all depends on how you draft.
Speaker 9: I think it depends on how you draft, how you
Speaker 9: look to that, and I think if if I'm in
Speaker 9: that draft room right now, I'm prioritizing running back.
Speaker 5: But the thing is, your free agency starts to march
Speaker 5: tracks to saprils. You've got to make this choice before
Speaker 5: before you draft.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what.
Speaker 5: I don't know what you're going to offer him because
Speaker 5: and you're a free agent. Listen, Okay, he got Dad there. Now,
Speaker 5: George Lewis is going to be up. Also, Diggy Zoo
Speaker 5: is up. Those are just those are just a couple
Speaker 5: of your Frock Hoffman is up. So you've got You've
Speaker 5: got a lot of them guys that you got to
Speaker 5: think about here, and so you got to ask yourself
Speaker 5: what is the price tag that you're going to put
Speaker 5: on Rico Dallaland you bring up the one touchdown that's
Speaker 5: that's legitimate, of what what where do we place his
Speaker 5: value at? Because you want a guy that can punch
Speaker 5: these things in And do you see him as a
Speaker 5: number one? Because if I'm his agent, I'm coming, hey
Speaker 5: man number one. And I don't want to pour gasoline
Speaker 5: or poor poor that. I don't want to pull the
Speaker 5: fire off on his fire that he's had right now.
Speaker 5: But the last two games have been against defenses that
Speaker 5: you know very ain't will Steel curtain now Doomsday and
Speaker 5: Carolina's bad. That's what you should do to a bad
Speaker 5: defensive team. Cincinnati is bad. That's what you should do
Speaker 5: against a bad defensive team. Run the ball this week
Speaker 5: against Todd Bowles and Tampa Bay. Let's see what you got.
Speaker 5: Then next week you go to Philadelphia. Let's see what
Speaker 5: you got. You bust one hundred on Philly. Okay, Sunday
Speaker 5: night football. Everybody's watching Tampa Bay, Todd Bowles, defensive guy.
Speaker 5: Let's see what you can do. That's how you get
Speaker 5: your bread. In my opinion, but right now, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make.
Speaker 5: Yes, they beat Carolina. They were underdogs. They showed resiliency.
Speaker 5: All those dudes on the team from from the Carolinas
Speaker 5: came out, showed it out. Rico o'dollary from North Carolina.
Speaker 5: Brooks caught touchdown pass. He's from North Carolina. So hey man,
Speaker 5: going out there, get your bow jangles and get out
Speaker 5: of there and make me feel good.
Speaker 1: Everybody.
Speaker 6: Man, let's you let you know, just dispersed at your tickets.
Speaker 1: You look good.
Speaker 5: So I'm happy for those guys, man, that that's outstanding.
Speaker 5: You're six and eight football team. We talked about that,
Speaker 5: talked a little bit about the chat. How do you
Speaker 5: look at this team now, six and eight? Here your
Speaker 5: the six and eight teams. Tampa, Tampa, San Francisco lost
Speaker 5: in the Super Bowl last year there six and eight
Speaker 5: banged up.
Speaker 1: To like the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: We lost a lot of geops saw digs going, he's
Speaker 5: gonna be supsted season now.
Speaker 1: So you got that Indianapolis the quarterbacks, Yeah, he got CINCINNATII.
Speaker 5: The quarterbacks chairble Capital. Sorry sorry, uh. Cincinnati is six
Speaker 5: and eight. They beat you, they did well. You you
Speaker 5: had them special teat you the wild special team activating
Speaker 5: you beat you.
Speaker 1: Go ahead at who's the other ones?
Speaker 5: Miami cos Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, co Sol he's
Speaker 5: I star quarterback. Then Atlanta is six and seven. They
Speaker 5: played tonight they beat the Brakes off. So of the
Speaker 5: other six and eight teams, how do you see the
Speaker 5: Cowboys and what Mike McCarthy's done. Okay, let's just look
Speaker 5: at the coaches, because you know one of my guys, yes,
Speaker 5: he said he's doing a real good job. You think
Speaker 5: about everything he's lost. You do a real good job.
Speaker 3: I'm just.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, right, you go ahead. What did your good
Speaker 1: friends say to you?
Speaker 6: So that's what I started to look at.
Speaker 5: Let's look at this because I just said it's Carolina.
Speaker 5: It's Carolina. Yeah, what about the other six and eight teams?
Speaker 5: So Kyle Shanahan six and eight right now, what do
Speaker 5: you think about the job he's done? This hit nobody
Speaker 5: way that he beat you handle?
Speaker 1: He's matching.
Speaker 5: Okay, you know the Natives are, by the way, they
Speaker 5: are restless in the West Coast, Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 9: I mean, and they should be. But at the same time,
Speaker 9: he's dealing with some significant injuries as well. Hadn't had
Speaker 9: his running back off season, loses another running back, he's lost.
Speaker 9: You know, they signed a receiver, one of his top receivers, Silent,
Speaker 9: got to a contract and he's out. Defensively, they've been
Speaker 9: beat up. I mean, that's that's a lot. And then
Speaker 9: it's so crazy when people get this recncy biased thing
Speaker 9: down with Shanahan. The last five years, the last five
Speaker 9: Super Bowls, he's been at two of them. What are
Speaker 9: we talking about. You don't get a chance to reload
Speaker 9: red something, recalibrate something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: Dan Quinn too. Uh oh see out there for Atlanta.
Speaker 5: So so that's their six days change Styke in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: It's a bad team. Yeah, they got quarterback.
Speaker 5: If you did a big time their quarterback issues and
Speaker 5: your boy Jonathan Taylor gonna run to the end zone
Speaker 5: and dropped all.
Speaker 1: He's a fact man.
Speaker 9: But I mean, if you're watching the football, you've seen
Speaker 9: that happen a couple of times. And that don't mean smart.
Speaker 9: It's the dumbest thing that you possibly could do a football.
Speaker 9: But I mean it's happened.
Speaker 6: I mean critical because we've been like twenty to seven
Speaker 6: had he scored.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think what's the what's.
Speaker 5: The celebration, Like, what's the difference between dropping it when
Speaker 5: you're already in and then just early dropping?
Speaker 1: Like what's the are you saying I'm good? I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't get that. That's a defensive player. What would
Speaker 1: you what would you what would you do if you
Speaker 1: saw Taylor do that?
Speaker 12: He was If I'm on the same team as Taylor,
Speaker 12: I'm letting him know that was a dumb, you know
Speaker 12: what mistake?
Speaker 1: Like, what are you doing? Even though he's.
Speaker 12: Possibly probably the best player on the squad. You're not
Speaker 12: above everybody else as far as being accountable. But that
Speaker 12: was a stupid, dumb you know what mistake Like.
Speaker 5: You gotta let him know, so, Shane Stykeen Colts six
Speaker 5: and eight. Yeah, quarterback issues are crazy, Cincinnati, Jack Taylor,
Speaker 5: six and eight.
Speaker 1: It's a bad franchise defense trash. This is a bad
Speaker 1: bad team, soft team.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, but at the same time, you got
Speaker 9: a quarterback this out there that's putting up MVP numbers,
Speaker 9: putting up MVP numbers. You know, nobody want to pay
Speaker 9: attention to Joe Burrow and what he doing out there.
Speaker 9: Joe Burrows having a hell of a season with a
Speaker 9: bad team. Tell him that they won't help him. They
Speaker 9: won't help him.
Speaker 1: He's six and eight. But he is on the boat.
Speaker 1: He's on the island by himself. We saw it last week.
Speaker 1: He's not by himself now him and Chase about no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I fucking it out. They got an A and the King.
Speaker 1: After that, they got a bunch of got who like
Speaker 1: the seven. Yeah, this is what he got. Two in
Speaker 1: the possible depends on the head boys I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: But that possiblely ain't working.
Speaker 5: Against a good team T six six eight, Wow, all right,
Speaker 5: but there's six nights better than here, right, We're gonna.
Speaker 1: Yes, is better than here?
Speaker 2: It is?
Speaker 1: It is because they beat you.
Speaker 6: They even if you he was right there coach sold
Speaker 6: six and eight Miami.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 12: I can't put my finger off because you got the players,
Speaker 12: and you know, if two was healthy all season, it
Speaker 12: might have been different.
Speaker 1: But then you look at last week. The two goes
Speaker 1: out there against Houston, it looks god awful, turns the
Speaker 1: ball over on a mits clip. Then he got bad.
Speaker 6: Then he got Raheem Morris first year out Atlanta, get
Speaker 6: Kirk Cousin.
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 6: But he beats you, breaks off of you. He did,
Speaker 6: so he's six.
Speaker 5: So then how do you look at Mike and what's happening?
Speaker 5: And do you look at these other coaches who are
Speaker 5: also right there in the same boat.
Speaker 1: Do you sign up for four more years of this?
Speaker 5: Is this a good You've got to measure it, guy, Yeah,
Speaker 5: Jerry even said we've got to measure it at the
Speaker 5: end of the year.
Speaker 1: Right now, how are you measuring it?
Speaker 9: I'm measuring it by you not having a good roster
Speaker 9: coming into this season by you having having a new
Speaker 9: defensive coordinator that dealt with a ton of injuries.
Speaker 1: I mean, you, what is it doomed from the from
Speaker 1: the start?
Speaker 9: You know, there were guys like Bear Church that sat
Speaker 9: in there and he told us that it is a
Speaker 9: nine and eight team, and it seemed it's starting to
Speaker 9: kind of look like that.
Speaker 1: But it was based off of the talent.
Speaker 9: H It was the talent on the team looking at
Speaker 9: the roster, and I mean, the injuries have been the
Speaker 9: great undoing of this team. When you sent me the
Speaker 9: text yesterday about Diggs, I could have just threw up.
Speaker 1: Man. It's like, how does this keep happening? I mean,
Speaker 1: what else? Who else?
Speaker 9: I mean, and you're not just losing you know, you're
Speaker 9: running the mill player, You're losing your star players. You're
Speaker 9: losing guys that we finally last week we're talking about
Speaker 9: getting blayd and Digs on the same field at the
Speaker 9: same time.
Speaker 1: It's like, we've never seen that. And now you're asking yourself, Hell,
Speaker 1: will you ever see it? Church?
Speaker 6: You had you had them nine and eight wildcard still
Speaker 6: had to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I still had them.
Speaker 12: But that's that's making the playoffs that's out the window,
Speaker 12: playoff wise, soft rebuilt.
Speaker 1: It's just it's wild. They still could go down in eight.
Speaker 5: They ain't going down the man, they still ain't because
Speaker 5: they ain't gonna beat Philly and depending on what wife
Speaker 5: Washington clinchers, they might be resting starters.
Speaker 1: So maybe, but I don't. I don't see it anymore.
Speaker 1: But it's crazy. It's like the roller coaster.
Speaker 12: Because if we're being honest, man dead honest, we look
Speaker 12: at the whole season, not just these past couple games.
Speaker 5: Before cast was getting injured, then this team didn't look good.
Speaker 5: Do we forget what the Saints did to this Dean
Speaker 5: week two? Did we forget what Baltimore came in it
Speaker 5: did to this team. You got a couple of injuries,
Speaker 5: and yeah, that's hurt a lot because since Michael Parkson
Speaker 5: has been back, that defense has picked it up a lot.
Speaker 5: But overall, I mean, we're looking at this team like, man,
Speaker 5: they were killing teams until the injury started. That's not
Speaker 5: the case. I will give Mark Mike McCarthy this credit.
Speaker 5: The team has not given up on him and they're
Speaker 5: fighting for him, so I will give him credit when.
Speaker 1: That comes to that.
Speaker 5: Now, as a defensive player. They started off rough new defense,
Speaker 5: and we spoke about it. The carpenter doesn't have his tools,
Speaker 5: so Zimmer didn't have his tools. He has figured something
Speaker 5: out here. You got six sacces yesterday, you get four
Speaker 5: turnovers against Cincinnati. That was a good defensive job. You've
Speaker 5: got Micah back here. Clearly we see that he makes
Speaker 5: a difference. So when you say, hey, man, how did
Speaker 5: you start here? You're right it didn't start good. But
Speaker 5: isn't coaching about being able to look at what do
Speaker 5: I have? Where are my warts? And making making things
Speaker 5: look better?
Speaker 1: Is it saying no?
Speaker 5: I mean, in my eyes, I think that's okay. Green
Speaker 5: Bay last year was rough for a minute. Then at
Speaker 5: the end we saw them get it done. So I
Speaker 5: look at to me, that's just me. I look at
Speaker 5: it right there. But six and eight right now? Are
Speaker 5: you ready to say, let's bring it back with Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 5: Let's go to a break, marinate on it, man, because
Speaker 5: I got this man. We talked about, you talk about
Speaker 5: a start, we talk about all the way the week.
Speaker 5: Let's let's go ahead with Barry Church or Harrison structs
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Speaker 5: So back to our conversation, let's talk about these six
Speaker 5: and eight Cowboys.
Speaker 1: You you want, you want justice for Mike McCarthy. I'm
Speaker 1: just keeping it anything less, that's not me. Yeah, what's
Speaker 1: going on?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: John's coming?
Speaker 6: So yeah, so that Papa John.
Speaker 1: NBC trying to trick you.
Speaker 6: Sorry, I'm trying to look at the you know, how
Speaker 6: to play the video.
Speaker 5: I was looking at the video of the line because
Speaker 5: the line breaking was the lines was running back Montgomery
Speaker 5: for the season defensive coordinator, and then that video hit.
Speaker 1: I had like that and hit anyway, Sorry, what.
Speaker 3: Was you know? You know?
Speaker 1: Shout John Chacarone Charron. That's all like talk team.
Speaker 5: So Mike mccarr the six and eight Barry is apparently
Speaker 5: wanting justice when you get what you deserve.
Speaker 1: It's just the truth. It's just what it is.
Speaker 9: Like, go ahead ahead, I just do you get any
Speaker 9: good will from twelve and five seasons?
Speaker 1: Do you get any good will from that? Three of them? Three?
Speaker 1: Twelve and five?
Speaker 9: Do you get any Does anything in those twelve and
Speaker 9: five season say to you that Mike McCarthy turned this
Speaker 9: offense around after relieving Kellen Moore and first in the
Speaker 9: NFL in offense, he has won a playoff game? Is
Speaker 9: there any good will there for Mike? Are you just
Speaker 9: basically saying, even with the injuries, even with the lack
Speaker 9: of talent on this roster, it's still coaching malpractice and
Speaker 9: he was the reason and you need a different voice
Speaker 9: in here now.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's malpractice. I think Mike McCarthy's
Speaker 1: a hell of a coach.
Speaker 12: Like we're gonna keep it a being, He's a hell
Speaker 12: of a coach, twelve and five Super Bowl champ. I'm
Speaker 12: not gonna take any of that away from him. But
Speaker 12: I go back to what new he told us at
Speaker 12: the beginning of all this before he came up in here,
Speaker 12: what was the man here brought here to do? He
Speaker 12: was brought here to get this team over the hump
Speaker 12: and get him past a divisional round because he is
Speaker 12: a super Bowl winning coach and he was supposed to
Speaker 12: lead a guy that's going to be able to take
Speaker 12: this roster who had multiple opos. WA ain't talking about
Speaker 12: he took over a roster like Chicago's or something like that.
Speaker 12: This guy got a roster and was supposed to be
Speaker 12: able to get this team over the hump. And it
Speaker 12: just hasn't happened yet. I mean, that's just just just
Speaker 12: what it is.
Speaker 1: What it is. It hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 5: You've had those twelve and five seasons, you had those
Speaker 5: shots to be able to get over the hump, and
Speaker 5: it hasn't happened yet yet.
Speaker 12: It hasn't happened yet. Now that's when it came down
Speaker 12: to five year contract. It is up, so it's like,
Speaker 12: do you want to run it back and see what
Speaker 12: can happen?
Speaker 9: And you're saying, if you run it back, you're gonna
Speaker 9: run it back to a little bit of the same
Speaker 9: from what you see in the Dallas Cowboys this year
Speaker 9: are from the Dallas Cowboys in those twelve and five seasons.
Speaker 5: I think you'll even when he runs it back, he'll
Speaker 5: have a better roster next year, for I believe so
Speaker 5: he'll have a better roster next year.
Speaker 12: So he may get back to those twelve and five teams.
Speaker 12: He may get back to having all those all pros.
Speaker 5: But what evidence do we have that once this team
Speaker 5: gets to the playoffs that he can be able to
Speaker 5: get what other coaches haven't been able to get out
Speaker 5: of this team. Do we have the evidence of that? No,
Speaker 5: We've gone to the playoffs multiple times, and what has happened.
Speaker 5: You stepped into the playoffs. You won against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. You have to win against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 5: But other than that, it's been it's been a no
Speaker 5: shown like you're going into these games and it's not like, man,
Speaker 5: you lost by field goal or man, it was hard
Speaker 5: fought contest and this, that.
Speaker 1: And the other.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: Now, great, okay, so you stand on that then right now,
Speaker 5: so Church is standing on it's not good enough.
Speaker 1: Make a chance.
Speaker 5: Contract is up. Thank you very much, or appreciate your
Speaker 5: five years. Let's go different well place. Therein lies the
Speaker 5: challenge for all these teams where we see six to
Speaker 5: seven openings every year, where do you go, because oh,
Speaker 5: by the way, it can and usually does get worse,
Speaker 5: usually does yeah before better Because it's hard, it is.
Speaker 5: Hiring a coach is one of the hardest things to
Speaker 5: do in business. It just as you go by every sport,
Speaker 5: Hey we made this change, and now we're better off
Speaker 5: of me. For most teams, the improvements almost never happened,
Speaker 5: that is true.
Speaker 9: I just like I look at Mike McCarthy and I
Speaker 9: look at where he is and the games that he's won,
Speaker 9: and the guys that are currently coaching, and where he
Speaker 9: ranks amongst his peers, and he's tops amongst them, and
Speaker 9: it's like even those things don't get brought up. Even
Speaker 9: you talk about the playoff win against Tampa Bay. That
Speaker 9: was the Tampa Bay team that won the Super Bowl
Speaker 9: the year before your de thrown the champion. That doesn't
Speaker 9: get talked about and Tampa You could talk about the
Speaker 9: guys that you drafted that didn't work out in the
Speaker 9: first round and some of those other picks, but you
Speaker 9: don't come back to the All pros and the other guys.
Speaker 1: That you pick like it's to me, is it is?
Speaker 9: It is so curious to me how people in the
Speaker 9: in the national, in the Dallas media disrespect Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: They don't.
Speaker 9: He's not getting the mulligan for this year at all.
Speaker 9: And everything that he does. And the thing that to
Speaker 9: me that may be his great undoing is the penalties
Speaker 9: that team. Last look, you said they hadn't quit on them.
Speaker 9: But when I see these penalties, I go, I know,
Speaker 9: if anybody's driving crazy's got to be driving Mike crazy,
Speaker 9: because that's not something that he's coaching. Like those things
Speaker 9: he knows they're drive killers. It's making you look bad
Speaker 9: as a coach when you get down into the red
Speaker 9: zone and you.
Speaker 1: Turn the ball over.
Speaker 9: I mean, who what team you know lacks concentration and
Speaker 9: execution when you get into the red zone.
Speaker 1: That's usually a coaching thing.
Speaker 9: And so to me, like I'm saying, like even in
Speaker 9: this position that he's in with the musical chairs at
Speaker 9: the offensive line, this running game is starting to turn
Speaker 9: this way around. Like he is doing the best of
Speaker 9: whatever he has in the cupboards right now. He's doing
Speaker 9: the best damn job he can with what he has,
Speaker 9: and I think as you go through you narrate this
Speaker 9: whole entire season, the injuries that he's had to deal
Speaker 9: with is going to be his great doing.
Speaker 1: If he's not here, that's where you look for the mercy.
Speaker 6: You're providing mercy Church, you want justice.
Speaker 5: And my question always is with these anyone who's trying
Speaker 5: to make a move, where are you going to go next?
Speaker 1: Jets? Where are you going next? Saints?
Speaker 5: Where are you going to go? What's the strategy? Because
Speaker 5: it's easy just fire people? Where do you go next?
Speaker 1: And I don't know what.
Speaker 5: Who's the obvious candidate? And if you want to bring
Speaker 5: up Ben Johnson, the coordinator with Detroit and you talk
Speaker 5: about his list of what he wants fifteen million dollars
Speaker 5: and the person that's not here, Bill Belichick, is now
Speaker 5: coaching in North Carolina Brad Poardyve Bill, are you.
Speaker 1: Going to yes?
Speaker 6: Are you going to hire a first time head coaching
Speaker 6: Aaron Glenn?
Speaker 5: Are you going to say you know what, Hey, Mike Zimmer,
Speaker 5: we like what you did from defense, Go ahead, become
Speaker 5: the head coach because I know you.
Speaker 1: Why do you say no to them? Yeah? It's out
Speaker 1: of the football. Ain't even top dodge now isn't.
Speaker 5: So why don't we move that up once again? You
Speaker 5: didn't get a carpenters tools?
Speaker 1: What you mean? So he so he wasn't the guy
Speaker 1: that brought in Phillips. He wasn't a guy that brought
Speaker 1: in That's how they had. They gave him a stipend.
Speaker 1: They gave him. They said, look, you can find everything
Speaker 1: that you can, but it's got to be with this
Speaker 1: number on it. So they didn't give They didn't give
Speaker 1: McCarthy his tools. What makes you think they're gonna give
Speaker 1: you some of his tools next but the next the
Speaker 1: next No, that's boom, that's my bag. I'm with you,
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 3: I just.
Speaker 9: They're gonna have to give somebody this tools that they
Speaker 9: expect for him to be successful.
Speaker 1: Somebody gonna have to give him.
Speaker 5: Let's dive in a couple of topics here, and then
Speaker 5: after this break, Michael Parson's addressed poss with trade rumors. Mmm,
Speaker 5: how do we feel about the Heisman Trophy vote? And
Speaker 5: we got to pick the Monday night game here he
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Speaker 5: linchpot you by Richard rat gam So. After the game,
Speaker 5: Michaeh Parson was asked about an NFL Network report saying
Speaker 5: that the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Could trade him in the off.
Speaker 5: Season, and Micah said, this business. He understands wants to
Speaker 5: be here. Obviously, we all know he's up for a
Speaker 5: massive contract. Steven Jones said, you know what, we want
Speaker 5: Michael here.
Speaker 1: We like him.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: One of my reporter buddies.
Speaker 6: Said, hey, man, Jerry's the last one holding on.
Speaker 1: And I just laughed and I just said this.
Speaker 6: Anybody think Khalil Max a good football player?
Speaker 1: Yeah, a damn good football player.
Speaker 5: Does he want to player d you the Player of
Speaker 5: the Award? What did the Raiders get for him? And
Speaker 5: have they done anything since he left ten not I.
Speaker 1: It's the Khalil Matt curse.
Speaker 9: Ain't nothing, you know, Okay, so you get rid of it. Good,
Speaker 9: MaTx Crosby is good. Wait a minute, Wait a minute,
Speaker 9: Mats s. Crosby is good too. I'm just I'm just
Speaker 9: I just want to make sure I say that, because
Speaker 9: that's that's Gotta says.
Speaker 5: It was, Hey, we don't want to pay this man,
Speaker 5: John Grews, And we don't pay this man, and go
Speaker 5: move and go trade?
Speaker 1: What did you get with it?
Speaker 5: So people have to say, I know, if you're you've
Speaker 5: seen yours, your your social media pages, Oh trade him
Speaker 5: and get picks.
Speaker 1: What do you need? What's the guarantee that those picks
Speaker 1: are going to be anything?
Speaker 14: Like?
Speaker 12: If they you might get a starter or two. But
Speaker 12: you're talking about a guy that's he's on a legendary
Speaker 12: arc right now. I mean, this is a guy that
Speaker 12: you saw as soon as he gets back from those injuries,
Speaker 12: how much he impacts the game and turns it over
Speaker 12: for your.
Speaker 1: Defense like this.
Speaker 12: We're not talking about a guy that you know is
Speaker 12: a flash player up and down, he's you know, great
Speaker 12: ceiling low for We're talking about a guy that's a
Speaker 12: game changer at one of the Markey positions on the
Speaker 12: football field. Not you know, a safety or a linebacker.
Speaker 12: This is a guy that rushes the passer and does it.
Speaker 12: I'd say top three in the National Football League. So
Speaker 12: that's a guy that you build around, like an age
Speaker 12: rusher or a quarterback. Those are the two guys, in
Speaker 12: my opinion, that you want to build your franchise around.
Speaker 12: And you got a special one in Michael Parsons. Is
Speaker 12: the tab going to be outrageous, of course it is.
Speaker 12: It should be the guy. He deserves it, so you
Speaker 12: don't trade that for possibilities which you never know. You
Speaker 12: never know, so to me, it would make no sense
Speaker 12: to trade partiers. He's just too much of an impact player.
Speaker 12: This is a waste of oxygen.
Speaker 9: And this is what they call dumb sports talk when
Speaker 9: you talk about trading Michael Parsons, it is Yeah, look
Speaker 9: seventeen multi sack games and when you look at the
Speaker 9: trajectory of other guys' careers, these are amongst the greats
Speaker 9: that have played the game. He has won away from
Speaker 9: Tying Richard didn't played for the Chicago Bears. You don't
Speaker 9: remember him. He was really good, Uh, and it's also
Speaker 9: and also a Hall of Famer. But this is what happens, man,
Speaker 9: when you give people, you know, fantasy football, man, fantasy football,
Speaker 9: it's it's some guy and nowhere Nebraska that's on his
Speaker 9: phone talk about trade Mazie and trade Micah and get
Speaker 9: these tracks.
Speaker 1: Trade. I'm telling I'm just his PFF grade is dumb.
Speaker 1: Dumb man, I'm.
Speaker 5: Telling you right now, these reports and some of the
Speaker 5: people who are coming up with them, as I talk
Speaker 5: to other folks, they're saying, there are folks in this
Speaker 5: building who are saying this about openly talking about So
Speaker 5: it's not some dude in the basement these this is
Speaker 5: being picked up from some folks in the building. I
Speaker 5: go back into the simple thing. Michael Parsons is a
Speaker 5: blue chip player. How many blue chip players are on
Speaker 5: this team? After Michael Parson one?
Speaker 1: Your kicker? But yeah, kicker, man, that's it.
Speaker 9: Did you know he was anybody talking about that with
Speaker 9: Zach Martin when Zach Martin was in his prime? Did
Speaker 9: anybody talk about, you know, trading Zach Martin. Was there
Speaker 9: ever any trade rumors for Zach Martin during this time?
Speaker 9: Any Tyrems Smith when Tyron Smith was in his prime.
Speaker 9: Was anybody saying it.
Speaker 1: You know, I just I think it's weird.
Speaker 9: I think it's weird that you find the player, you
Speaker 9: go into the draft, you draft a guy, he turns
Speaker 9: out to be exactly what you need him to be.
Speaker 9: Oh and by the way, he's a force multiplier. Here's
Speaker 9: a guy that can play anywhere on the defense. And
Speaker 9: every team in the NFL that comes up against the
Speaker 9: Dallas Cowboys are trying to find where number eleven is.
Speaker 9: It's not fifty, is the mic. It's saying there's number eleven.
Speaker 9: It's not the mic. It's not fifty is the mic.
Speaker 9: There's number eleven. Eleven is over here. Okay, that's because
Speaker 9: you gotta know where he is. Every game plan when
Speaker 9: you play against the Dallas Cowboys is to stop Micah
Speaker 9: on defense. Now, the problem is is we talk about
Speaker 9: free agents and all of this stuff. We can't waste
Speaker 9: any money on players that are maybe we need guys
Speaker 9: that can actually do it. And that's why I'm saying
Speaker 9: Jay Lou has to come back because he's a bona
Speaker 9: five piece who can play with Micah is the question.
Speaker 5: So we're all in agreement, We're all in agreement, Heisman
Speaker 5: trophy goes to Travis Hunt of Colorado.
Speaker 1: Are we in agreement? I saw the man.
Speaker 5: I saw the man play the first game in Colorado.
Speaker 5: Came out to TCU. I talked to Dennis Thurman, who
Speaker 5: was with them at Jackson State and was his defensive
Speaker 5: coordinator and then he was a college Lado and he
Speaker 5: just said, yeah, and I remember this kid, Josh Newton
Speaker 5: played for the Bengals. Now, they had the old press
Speaker 5: confers beforehand, and at the press conference end, he looks
Speaker 5: around and says the media, Oh, you're not gonna ask
Speaker 5: me about it?
Speaker 1: Oh Travis Hunter? Yeah yeah, let's talk about Trav. I'm ready.
Speaker 5: Then then that's like, hey, guys don't know that he
Speaker 5: went out there and gave it to him Son gave
Speaker 5: it David to them. Dude play both ways on a
Speaker 5: hot day, hot day.
Speaker 1: And then watched chandel More trying to test it because
Speaker 1: they were up there.
Speaker 6: So these kids was up there and you know, letting
Speaker 6: kids get all drunk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, you had over Randy watch this.
Speaker 6: It was right there goal line.
Speaker 1: He threw it. Travis, Travis picked that thing. He got
Speaker 1: up who said it? I saw that everybody got Hunting.
Speaker 1: It was thirsty, he said. It put on the sews.
Speaker 5: They live here, and in the press conference they asked,
Speaker 5: Sonny Dikes, you know, was your team cramping up?
Speaker 1: Travis Hunaway cramping up? Went both ways.
Speaker 5: I never seen nothing like that. So that was the
Speaker 5: first time I saw this man play, and he's continued
Speaker 5: to do this. He won the Heisman trophy. I know
Speaker 5: ast Gent said, I felt like I should have walked
Speaker 5: away with it. But when's the last time we've seen
Speaker 5: anyone play both ways like that? And by the way,
Speaker 5: the Thorpe ward should be embarrassing, ashamed of them. Write
Speaker 5: an apology letter.
Speaker 9: Every year every year, the Thorpe, the Balitnikov, all of
Speaker 9: the somehow they find a way to fumble these situations
Speaker 9: right here.
Speaker 1: But this is bad, and this is bad.
Speaker 9: And I told y'all before I called Ashton Genty's games
Speaker 9: when he played it at Frisco Long Star, he was
Speaker 9: amazing as a running back.
Speaker 1: Should have never left the state. I don't know how
Speaker 1: he ended up going to Boise.
Speaker 9: His his loyalty in the transfer of portal Era Era
Speaker 9: kept him at Boising. Kudos to him because he could
Speaker 9: have gone somewhere else. His numbers are astronomical and crazy,
Speaker 9: but people are always gonna say who did you play against?
Speaker 9: And not many people are up watching boys football when
Speaker 9: he's playing his games. But there's nothing not to take
Speaker 9: anything away from Travis. I just want to say how
Speaker 9: great this year has been. But I ain't never seen
Speaker 9: anything like Travis Hunter, and that's he is something different
Speaker 9: when it comes down to playing the game.
Speaker 1: Of football and being able to play on both sides
Speaker 1: of the field. Now you being a form of pro
Speaker 1: do you think that he could do that in the pros? Yes? Man,
Speaker 1: he can have packages packed all you know.
Speaker 12: I get you some package here on offensive side of football,
Speaker 12: like Dion back in the day.
Speaker 1: But you can't tell me.
Speaker 12: You're gonna go from hitting Derrick Henry one playing and
Speaker 12: then two seconds later you got lineup and plays.
Speaker 1: That's not That's not gonna happen.
Speaker 12: I mean, guys in this league are too good, so
Speaker 12: he can have packages in lead. But I personally I
Speaker 12: think he could be an unreal corner.
Speaker 1: He just has.
Speaker 5: He has the ball skills already, athleticism. He just got
Speaker 5: to get somebody to fine tune his technique. Other than that,
Speaker 5: this guy's limbited at the corner position. From me, I
Speaker 5: mean he got all the athletic ability, long rangey strong,
Speaker 5: not afraid to put his nose in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. To me, it's spot gotta be corner.
Speaker 5: All right, money football, Let's go Chicago at Minnesota. Give
Speaker 5: me Minnesota thirty one sixteen Church, Yeah.
Speaker 12: Give me Minnesota. I need a huge came out of
Speaker 12: Sam darnald Man Fantasy on the ropes.
Speaker 1: This might be my time's going.
Speaker 9: Oh, I need a bit. I'll get me forty five
Speaker 9: twenty eight in my time. This might be I can
Speaker 9: show a little brilliance here, Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Show me.
Speaker 9: I'm going I'm going twenty eight. I'm going twenty eight thirteen,
Speaker 9: you go twelve.
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Speaker 5: Antonio Pierce.
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Speaker 1: This is the game. This is the game, the game.
Speaker 9: It's the one right Vegas got show me, Noah, I'm
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Speaker 1: Can folk.
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