1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Thirty birds, What's up? And welcome to another edition of 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Falcons Final Whistle presented by Zaxby's I'm Your Host. Will 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: McFadden joined on, Honestly, what feels like way too early 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: of an afternoon I now is Tory Knacklaney toy? How 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: is how is your night? Your flight back? I don't 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: even want to start with the game right now because 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: you know we'll get to it, but. 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: I'm very tired. I think I got to my apartment 9 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: at five point thirty in the morning. There you go, 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: so probably was asleep by five forty five, six o'clock. 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: You texted me at eleven You're like, hey, where are you? 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, I just look up, I'm 13 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: on my way. So we're recording this at what like noon? 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: What time is it twelve? Yeah, twelve nineteen. I didn't 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: even travel and I didn't go to bed until like 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: two thirty either. 17 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 2: Yea. 18 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 1: So it's just kind of part of the life of 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: covering an NFL team. And you know, when you have 20 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: an away game on primetime football, which good teams usually do, 21 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: and that's always the goal. Like it's exciting, right, but 22 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: you really do pay for it the next day. 23 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: You know, you really do. And it's one thing to 24 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: kind of come off of. What's crazy is I feel 25 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: like every primetime game, outside of maybe the Bucks game, 26 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: what like, I've had a similar feeling of like, oh, 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: I'm just like dragging the next day, and maybe even 28 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: the Philly game like that that game because it was 29 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: such a like climactic moment ending but like and then 30 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: the Bucks game was so climactic climactic, but like the 31 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 2: last two of the Monday night game against the Raiders, 32 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: and then even though they won that game, it feeling 33 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: like a loss. And then this one, which was a 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: loss that was just like, I mean, we'll talk about 35 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: it all, but it was one of those like dagger 36 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: type of moments. And I think I personally am feeling 37 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: the week eighteen grind of where we are. 38 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: Well, that's that's the key, right is the Philadelphia game. 39 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: The Tampa game came early in the season, things were 40 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: going well, and you're right they ended on such obviously 41 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: for the Falcons, but just in general, like the end 42 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: of the game. Yeah, if you're a Washington fan, like 43 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: that was an amazing game for you, understandably, but it's 44 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: almost like part of the reason why. I think The 45 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: Hangover did so well in movie theaters and I was 46 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: actually working at a movie theater when that happened. It 47 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: was the longest I'd ever seen a movie just be 48 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: in theaters. I swear for like half the year it 49 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: was playing. And I think it's because the end credit 50 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: scene where they actually get kind of the camera from 51 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: the night and they're going through the pictures and it's 52 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: a big reveal for the audience of like, what actually 53 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: happened is maybe the funniest moment in the funniest movie 54 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: of that year, and it's like you're ending on such 55 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: a high. You walk out of the theater being like, Wow, 56 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: that was a great movie. I love that thing. It's 57 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,279 Speaker 1: kind of like the same thing for these games. Unfortunately, 58 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: the last two one did go the Falcons favorite, but 59 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: again it felt like a loss, and then the one 60 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: last night was actually a loss. 61 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. It was a tough game too, because 62 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 2: it was it was definitely like a what if game, 63 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: like what could have been? Oh absolutely, and I think 64 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: that there was at every turn within those four quarters 65 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 2: and then overtime. I always I felt like the Falcons 66 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: had a chance, and you know, you have to give 67 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: a credit where credits do they fought back? 68 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but not enough. 69 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 2: And I just have a hard time kind of grappling 70 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: with even the decisions that were made. And I know 71 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: we're going to talk about like not calling a timeout. 72 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: Let's just say go, you go ahead, you set us up. Well, 73 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 2: since I'm just like, I'm just jibber jabbering. 74 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: Just yeah, that's the vibe today. But yeah, so they 75 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: lost thirty to twenty four, And honestly, like that sounds 76 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: about right. You know, if you had told me going 77 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: into the game on Friday or whatever, hey, this is 78 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: going to be a thirty twenty four game. It's going 79 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: to go into overtime, I'd say, yeah, that sounds about right. 80 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: You're probably going to get a really exciting, fun game 81 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: between two rookie quarterbacks and two teams that I do 82 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: think are pretty similar and obviously have some similar styles. 83 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: It's just the way that the game actually played itself 84 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: out that I think has left fans with a bitter 85 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: taste in their mouth. Certainly the team did not want 86 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: the outcome that it got. Yeah, and let's yeah, go 87 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: ahead and just start with some of the operational miscues. 88 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: You wrote a piece after the game on Atlanta Falcons 89 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: dot Com, detailing what Raheem Morris had to say about 90 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: keeping a lot of timeouts in his back pocket. What 91 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: do you say to you? 92 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think that this. I know everybody's talking 93 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: about the end of regulation moment where it's first down, 94 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 2: there's about forty seconds left in the game the Falcons, 95 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: it's tied. They have a chance to go down and 96 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: kick a field goal and win the game, which would 97 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: be huge, a huge boon for where they are as 98 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 2: an organization, but also where they need to be in 99 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: terms of NC South standing yep. And knowing at that 100 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: time that the Bucks did defeat the Panthers pretty handily, 101 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: dominated the dominated the Panthers pretty handily, that you needed 102 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: that win point blank period and in order to keep 103 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 2: kind of the ball in your court and destiny in 104 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 2: your own hands and all of those phrases. And what 105 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: ended up happening is Michael Pennix throws down the sideline 106 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 2: to Darnell Mooney for a twenty five yard gain, and 107 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: I know, I'm just like reiterating this. I'm sure all 108 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 2: of y'all saw it. And Darnell goes down, he doesn't 109 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: get out of bounds. 110 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: The clock continues to run thirty three seconds I think 111 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: at that moment. 112 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty three seconds from the time that he was 113 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: ruled down, and then from that point on, sixteen seconds 114 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: went off the clock until the Falcons finally snapped the 115 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 2: ball on the next play with seventeen seconds left. The 116 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: Falcons had two timeouts at that point in time, and 117 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: then what transpired after that is like an incompletion and 118 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 2: then the Falcons were gifted a defensive pass interference call 119 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: and put them you know, long field goal range, but 120 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: in field goal range, and then Riley Patterson didn't have 121 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: enough leg to get it there. And then you go 122 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: to overtime, and then we saw what happened overtime, and 123 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: I think, like not the fact that there were two 124 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: timeouts and that much time ticked off the clock was 125 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 2: just I was sitting in the press box just kind 126 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: of being like, come on. 127 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: Are you gonna do it? 128 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 2: Right? It was It was a weird sensation because I 129 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: was like that, why, why are you not why? And 130 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: after the game, Rahem Morris was asked why didn't you 131 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: do it? And his response was that he thought the 132 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: operation from the point of Darnel giving the ball back 133 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: to the ref, putting the ball down and snapping the ball. 134 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: That operation was gonna go quicker. But I've gone back 135 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: and watched it, and I don't know if, like I 136 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: feel like the coaching staff and potentially the team the 137 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 2: offense was on two separate pages because it didn't feel 138 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: like the team on the field was like preparing to 139 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: quick snap it. 140 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: Yeah and urge and see. They weren't like showing that 141 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: left right, get up there, get up there, get up there. Yeah. 142 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: It didn't feel like at the end of that Tampa 143 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: game where they were able to clock it with a 144 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: second left, Like, it didn't feel like that since New 145 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: Orleans or New Orleans that's right, Yeah, Like it didn't 146 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 2: feel like that sense of urgency. And so that's why 147 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: I kind of was just waiting for, like are you gonna, 148 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: like when are you gonna? When are you? 149 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the frustrating part is that we've 150 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: seen them do it before, right, and when you some 151 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: of the best I think, uh color analysts in the 152 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: game are really good in these moments because they're kind 153 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: of breaking down how teams should be thinking about it. 154 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: And when you kind of get under forty seconds or 155 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: so you should probably start thinking in terms of plays, 156 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: not seconds, right right, how many plays can we get 157 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 1: out of this? And when you led seventeen seconds go 158 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: off the clock, that's. 159 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: That's two or three three plays. 160 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so when you're talking about that the defense 161 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: pass interference call, that's an amazing gift. But there's only 162 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: two seconds left on the clock. At that point, you 163 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: don't have any other option but to bring out you're 164 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: Riley Patterson for a fifty six yard kick. And if 165 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: you had had nine seconds, that's maybe two more shots 166 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: to get you a little bit closer. And my big 167 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: thing is, yes, I kind of understand, and these aren't excuses. 168 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm just kind of thinking about what the benefit of 169 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: maybe having those timeouts would be. It could allow you 170 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: to keep more options in the playbook open right, you 171 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: can use the middle of the field. You could potentially 172 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: run the ball if need be. Let's say something goes 173 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: wrong you need to burn a timeout because Michael Penick 174 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: drops a snap or there's a sack, what have you. 175 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: But again, we've seen them do it before. And when 176 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: you have a rookie quarterback in a spot like that, 177 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: how many times in college we see Kirby Smart take 178 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: a time out call the quarterback over, put his hand 179 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: on his helmet, be like, all right, here's what we're 180 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna walk you through it. And I 181 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: would have just liked to see maybe that situation play out. 182 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: That singular point was the I think the biggest issue 183 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: that I had this is Michael Pennox's second start. 184 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: He is don't put it all on him, don't. 185 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: Put it all on him, Like he just did what 186 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: he needed to do to tie the game up. And 187 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: the fact that it to put him in that position 188 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: in his second start, not only that, but then to 189 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 2: like not help him out like that was my whole thing. 190 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: Like it didn't feel like they were helping him out 191 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: in that moment. 192 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's all raheem right now. No, 193 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: I say, Sam has a staff that is supporting him 194 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: as well, and he is getting input from guys in 195 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: the box, people whose job is on game day, all right, 196 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: here's the situation, and they run kind of that control 197 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: of the situation. And so he's got a trust. But 198 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you are the head coach, 199 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: and I think you need to have a little bit 200 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: of that wherewithal to say like, look, I'm gonna take 201 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: ownership of this moment, We're gonna call a time out. 202 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: Let's get it all settled and kind of go about it. 203 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: Especially when that much time ran off the clock. You know, 204 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: if we're talking about seven seconds, I'm probably not saying anything. 205 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: If we're talking about ten seconds, I'm a little more hesitant, 206 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: but I'm maybe not saying anything. It's the sixteen seconds 207 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: from thirty three seconds to seventeen seconds. And also the 208 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: fact that this was not the first time in this 209 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: game that this situation transpired. And what I mean by 210 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: that is you go back to the end of the 211 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: half into the first half and very similar situation. The 212 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 2: Falcons are driving Michael Pennox hits Darnell Mooney down the 213 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: sideline for a twelve yard game. I believe at that 214 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: time there was about forty seconds. 215 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: It literally, I think it was like forty to like 216 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: twenty one. 217 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was almost a full twenty seconds, and. 218 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: The broadcasters are kind of like, man, there's a lot 219 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: of time coming off this clock right now. 220 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: The Falcons had all three timeouts in that moment, Like, 221 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: you can't take timeouts with you, You can't wake up 222 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: this morning and be like, ooh, can't take it with 223 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: you when you're gone, right, like, and so that's also 224 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: what's so frustrating. He's like, why not use them? They're 225 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 2: there for your benefit, they're there for your strategy, they're 226 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 2: there to help you and give you a cushion. Why 227 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: put Why make things harder than they have to be? Like, 228 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: it didn't make any sense to me, And I don't 229 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: understand it. And I know that Raheem Morris was asked 230 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: about both of those moments, and I know he said, 231 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 2: you know, hindsight, you know, you think about things in hindsight. 232 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: You had the luxury of hindsight, and yeah, maybe should 233 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: have called probably could have called was the term that 234 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: he used. Probably could have called a time out in 235 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: especially in the fourth quarter, but also in that second quarter. 236 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: And I just kind of sitting there like, yeah, Like, 237 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what else to say. Like, 238 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 2: I cause I as a watcher of the game, as 239 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 2: a person who studies this game, has been around the 240 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 2: game for a long time, and I feel like I 241 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: have a good solid knowledge of it. I don't get it. 242 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: And I think that's fair to say that I don't 243 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: get it. 244 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: It's one hundred percent fair, and I mean, I think 245 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: there are some people who had actually mixed reactions. I 246 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: think to his response after the game, some people liked 247 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: it because they felt he was being honest, and I 248 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: agree with that. I think he was being honest. And 249 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 1: it's hard to the last thing I would want to 250 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 1: do is sit up there and be like, yeah, maybe 251 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: we got it wrong, you know. But I do think 252 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: that Raheem has always said you learn a lesson in 253 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: wins and losses, and you have to move forward. And 254 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: I think seeing how if this moment arises again, and 255 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: unfortunately it probably won't be during the twenty twenty four season. 256 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: It may be in the future, but we need to 257 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: keep this in our back pocket and remember this and 258 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: see how they handle it next time, because then I 259 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: think it becomes maybe a little more magnified. Of like, 260 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 1: if you make the same mistakes a couple of times, 261 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: all right, then that isn't showing the growth and learning 262 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: that you yourself purport to really want and seek out. 263 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: But I kind of, in my mind, was justifying the 264 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: first half one a little bit, because yeah, you didn't 265 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: want to give Washington one other opportunity with the ball, 266 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: so I maybe kind of get but then but you 267 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: had three three time tough. 268 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: I know. That's my thing is like three three is tough. 269 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 2: Three is tough. And that's the thing because I was 270 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: in the same I was in agreement with you. I 271 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: was like, okay, let yeah. 272 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: You're around a minute. Yeah, let's get this thing down 273 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: to But then to come away with on the field 274 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: goal instead of really having another shot or two then 275 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: zone was yeah, and. 276 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: Maybe a bit more like manageable shots in the end zone, 277 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: because you know, I think Michael Pennix did have Drake 278 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: London kind of on that final third down route before 279 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 2: they sent out the kicking unit and he just overshot him. 280 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: And I think, like, you know, you have that moment, 281 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: things feel different. You don't talk about like three timeouts 282 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: not using them, but you have to talk about what 283 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: happened in this game and the fact that the matter 284 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: is that the Falcons took five timeouts with them to 285 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 2: the to it like to the end. 286 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: In a game where it was tied coming down to 287 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: the final seconds when they had the ball. It's like, yes, again, 288 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: these were situational moments where they were in possession of 289 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: the football and only ultimately came away with three points. Yeah. Right, 290 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: and in a game where it went overtime and you 291 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: lost in overtime. That's really tough. And again it is 292 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: it's easy to play hindsight. But I think the reason 293 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people are sticking with this is in 294 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: the moment, it felt it felt like, hey, here's what 295 00:13:58,640 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: you should do. 296 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, And I to your point, You know, you 297 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: hope that they transition to like learning from this and everything. 298 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: You know, maybe next time out, Michael Panix is operating 299 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: the operation in that moment at a quicker pace. Maybe 300 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: he's not relying. 301 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 302 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: I just can't look at what happened and be like, oh, 303 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: they didn't think that they were gonna call a timeout 304 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: like that was what was so crazy? Is like it 305 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: didn't to me. And I've watched it god so many times. Yeah, 306 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: and I don't get it. 307 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I just think even keeping the 308 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: possibility of Jhon Robinson in play a little bit right, 309 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: like again, you have those three timeouts, leave a little 310 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: more time on the clock to give it to Bejon 311 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: one or two times, like see what can happen? Get 312 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: a little closer and again and I know that, like. 313 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: This is a team that is has been very like 314 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: I think gutsy in like going forward on fourth down 315 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: and everything. But I think there's a difference in being 316 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 2: gutsy and in like playing to strategy. 317 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: And you don't always have to thread the needle. 318 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like those two things can be the same, but 319 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: they can also be incredibly separate and one doesn't go 320 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: with the other sometimes. And I think this is a 321 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: moment where I didn't think you needed to be gutsy. 322 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: I think you could have been conservative. You should have 323 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 2: been conservative, and you should have helped your guys out. 324 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree. Let's start a little bit, or 325 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: let's continue talking about kind of where the game flipped. 326 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: And Atlanta could have honestly continue to put their foot 327 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: on the commander's throats coming right out of halftime. Yeah, right, 328 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: they were in a position to force the three and out. 329 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: They had Washington backed up to like their eighteen yard 330 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: line or whatever. Couple of sacks, Like everything was really 331 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: rolling and it felt like the crowd was about to 332 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: be totally out of it again, and really the game 333 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: could have gone in Atlanta's favor, and the scripts kind 334 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: of could have gone out the window for Washington. If 335 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: you're able to force that three and out and get 336 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: the ball back, maybe a had some more points. 337 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: Especially because Atlanta was running the ball so well. 338 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: Really, yes, exactly, Washington. 339 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: Really couldn't do that much of anything against Bajan or Tyler. 340 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: You love to talk about the middle eight, right, and 341 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: Atlanta could have owned and dominated the middle eight in 342 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: this game, and I think they would have ultimately emerged 343 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: with a win had they done so. Instead, you get 344 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: a penalty on D'Angelo Malone, it's five yards, but ultimately 345 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: the bigger deal is you get a new first down, 346 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: and Washington never looked back from there. They put together 347 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: just like the longest drives I think I've ever seen 348 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: teams do back to back. 349 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen drives that first one, or fifteen plays that 350 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: first one, fourteen plays the next one. Over seven minutes 351 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 2: and forty seconds in the first one, and I believe 352 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: over six and a half seven minutes in the second one. 353 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: It was like twenty six plays to three plays. Yeah, 354 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: in the third quarter, and that that's where everything just 355 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: turned for Atlanta. I mean, did it watching on television 356 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: like I felt that? But how did it feel in 357 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: the stadium. 358 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: Oh, it was there after they got the three and 359 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,359 Speaker 2: out after Atlanta went three and out following the fifteen 360 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: minute or fifteen play seven and a half minute drive 361 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: that started the third quarter after that, and Washington got 362 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: the ball back that and they were just kind of 363 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 2: like picking off these kind of not even chunk plays, 364 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: but just kind of consistently moving the ball three four, Yeah, 365 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: like they weren't having these huge explosives. 366 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: Going forward on fourth down, yeah, Jeremy McNichols one where yeah, 367 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: I just grab him and suplex him just like yeah. 368 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: And then to start the fourth quarter with the touchdown 369 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: score to in that drive, and it was just I 370 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 2: I've had this conversation before with people because I feel 371 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: like people are split on the idea of momentum, and 372 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: I have heard I used to have my sports editor 373 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: when I was in college at the Red and Black. 374 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 2: It was this huge thing because he said that he 375 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 2: didn't believe in momentum and didn't believe it was a thing. 376 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: And I'm a full believer in momentum. I don't as 377 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: a former athlete myself, not really that great of an athlete, 378 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 2: but as a former athlete myself and having been around 379 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: the game for so long you can't convince me that 380 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: momentum is not a thing. You cannot convince me it 381 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: is this intangible thing that shifts games, and it shifts 382 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: the way you feel about games. And I have in 383 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 2: so many years of doing this, the absolute shift in 384 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 2: momentum in that third quarter was as palpable as I 385 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: think I've ever felt, because it was to your point, 386 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: everything was good for Atlanta and then it just went yep. 387 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: And it was funny because Will and I during the 388 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: during the game, we always are kind of like talking 389 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 2: on Slack, like, Hey, what are you thinking? And you 390 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 2: asked me like what I was thinking about writing after 391 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 2: the game, and I was like, well, if this holds, 392 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: if this third quarter holds, this to me is a 393 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 2: good time to kind of compare a broader picture of 394 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 2: where Atlanta is organizationally in twenty twenty to this game. 395 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,239 Speaker 2: And what I mean, what I meant by that was 396 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: that the Falcons had one of the best octobers I've 397 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: seen from a tea from a Falcons team in a 398 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 2: very very long time. They were very dominant, were playing really, 399 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: really good football. Kirk Cousins was leading this team to 400 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: heights that I mean, heck, we hadn't seen since Matt 401 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: Ryan years. Yeah, hot out of the gates, Hot out 402 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: of the gates, and momentum was firmly, firmly in their grasp. 403 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: And making game winning plays. They don't blink. 404 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 2: Right that it was the whole thing. You're you have 405 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: a four to you're leading the division four to one, 406 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: you have a six and three overall record, You're feeling 407 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 2: so good about where you are at that point in 408 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 2: time the season, and then just the wheels fell off 409 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: and momentum swung, and when it swung, it swung hard 410 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 2: back the other way, and then you go on this 411 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: significant losing streak. And I was kind of like the 412 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 2: juxtaposition of this game was that the Falcons felt in 413 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: such control of the game in that first half. 414 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: I mean to seven going in a halftime, Yeah, and 415 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: they were. 416 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: Like what I was saying, they were running the ball, well, 417 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: Washington not have an answer for John Robinson. And simultaneously 418 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: the Falcons defense was doing a heck of a great 419 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 2: job stopping the run for Washington. And and then you 420 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 2: pick off Jayden Daniels, which that doesn't happen very often 421 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 2: in this this twenty twenty four season. 422 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: One beautiful disguised play, like you could tell the pressure 423 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: was making him throw quickly and not necessarily see everything 424 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: that was hang yeah. 425 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: And then you go down and you score off of that, 426 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: and you the feeling you go into halftime feeling really 427 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: really good if you're the Falcons. And then again, momentum swings, 428 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: and when it swings, it swings so hard, and they 429 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: tried to get it back, and I think that's kind 430 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 2: of similar to what we've seen in the back half 431 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: of the season. They tried to get it back a 432 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: little bit. You you had some things kind of swing 433 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 2: your way. The Dallas beat the Bucks and you get 434 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 2: back the lead, and it was just like it was 435 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: this This game was a microcosm. 436 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: Up to me, it was like that last drive in 437 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: the fourth court, All right, you tied it back. Cool, 438 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: you did it, Let's go into overtime. And then this 439 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: game was the overtime, right. 440 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 2: It was. This game was the microcosm of the season. 441 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: It was a metaphor for me, and I'm just kind 442 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: of sitting there just being like what could have been, 443 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: you know, And it's really it's tough because this team, 444 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: I thought going into this season had a lot of potential, 445 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: and I think we've seen a lot of that potential enacted. 446 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 2: I mean, but Jon Robinson has been as advertised. 447 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: Yep. 448 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: Drake London, Darnell Mooney have been so good for this team. 449 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 2: And you know, even with all the quarterback stuff, like 450 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 2: Drake Lennon had his first thousand yard receiving season, but 451 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: Jeon Robinson has almost seventeen hundred yards from scrimmage. 452 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: Like I think he's like eighth all time season in 453 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: Falcon's history this year. Like, it's the the individual parts 454 00:21:55,800 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: are kicking butt on this team, even the defense. Twenty 455 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: sacks over the last that is right there at the 456 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: top in the NFL. Who would have seen it coming. 457 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: And again for that to also correlate with a losing 458 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: streak when these guys are really playing well individually, I 459 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 1: think that just speaks to how hard it is to 460 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: win in the NFL. And when you sometimes will hear 461 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, think back to the Lions a couple of 462 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: years ago, right Dan Campbell's first season. It's like, man, 463 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: they're showing something here. There's promise there, They've got potential. 464 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: They're almost learning what it takes to win. Right, You've 465 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: got to go through some of these losses. I think 466 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: what's so frustrating though for Falcons fans is that the 467 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: promise has always been there, and there hasn't been that 468 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 1: sense that they are built, that these losses are almost 469 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: building up to something better in the future. Because of that, 470 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: maybe each off season you're chasing this next season, right, 471 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: and whether that's changing at the quarterback position, changing the 472 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: head coach, doing something just kind of a little bit 473 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: radically different to maybe get something for the upcoming year. 474 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: I kind of think maybe you lose that sense of 475 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: continuity and building towards and creating the sum of the 476 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: hole is or the whole is greater than the sum 477 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: of the individual parts. And that's kind of where hopefully 478 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: this year can maybe be like twenty fifteen, right, and 479 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: that was another season in which they started very hot 480 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: and then they kind of faded down the stretch. But 481 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: I do think that in some of those losses, ironically, 482 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: they learned a lot of the key lessons that then 483 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: fueled them to a really memorable and amazing twenty sixteen season. 484 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying twenty twenty five is going to be 485 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: anything like that, but I think that I don't know 486 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: if twenty sixteen happens the way it does without the 487 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: finish to twenty fifteen and really having those gut punches 488 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: and having to look inside yourself and be like, we're 489 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: not going through that again. But it's just hard to 490 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: say that when it it feels like deja vu for 491 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: kind of like the seventh season now, right. 492 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: No, And I think it's fair because I think even 493 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: on our last podcast and with Tarn and Amna that 494 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: we did on Friday, I said, I was like, the 495 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: same old Falcons narrative, which has become the narrative that 496 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 2: the Falcons are the same team that they always are. 497 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 2: I said, I was like, this is a moment going 498 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: up to Washington and potentially beating a team like the 499 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 2: Commanders would be a moment to kind of put that 500 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: narrative aside for a little bit and to kind of 501 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 2: be like, this team in twenty twenty four is different. 502 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 2: And unfortunately we can't say that because we're sitting here 503 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 2: twenty four hours after not even twenty four sixteen hours 504 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: after a loss that again like should have been a win. 505 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: And how many times has there been a moment like 506 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: this where we've sat here on this podcast and said 507 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: this team should have won this game, like this team 508 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: should have been better in X, Y or Z. It's 509 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 2: just it's tough and it's frustrating, and especially when things 510 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: like clock management is in like penalties are, because that's 511 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: something we talked about in the past, Like when those 512 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 2: are the things things that get in the way of 513 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 2: a performance, like and those are the things that you remember, 514 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 2: that's what makes it a tougher pill to swallow. 515 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it sucks. It sucks when you lose, period, yeah, 516 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: point yeah, But it's a little bit more understandable when 517 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: it's one of those like tip your hat kind of games, like, hey, 518 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: they just went out and beat us, right, Like that's 519 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: just gonna happen in the NFL because everybody is so 520 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: dang good. It's way harder to swallow when you're able 521 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: to point at a few things that you yourself did wrong 522 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: that you feel like prevented you from being the best 523 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: version and ultimately then cost you a win. And in 524 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: a season where it really has come down to one game, right, Like, 525 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: there are plenty of instances throughout the year where you 526 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: could say, if this had gone a little bit differently, right, 527 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: and that's always going to be true, but it just 528 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: feels more magnified this year. So let's talk really quickly 529 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: about kind of where things stand going in week eighteen. 530 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: It's not the most fun topic in the world. Tampa 531 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: Bay is right back on top in the NFC South 532 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: after you know, final getting right back there. He gave 533 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: it right back, and they will have a matchup with 534 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints. Falcons fans are now in a 535 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: weird situation of having to root for the Saints. 536 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: Which I really Spencer Rattlers to like really get the 537 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 2: job done. 538 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 1: It's it's icky, but you know it's it's the good 539 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: kind of ick. Yes, But the Falcons have the Carolina Panthers, 540 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: who you know, they beat once this season. They are 541 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: licking their wounds as cats love to do after coming 542 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: off a huge Yeah you like that one? There you go, Yeah, 543 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: I know, right, it's no sleep at all. But yeah, 544 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: they I don't I don't know what to expect from 545 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: Carolina because they've been. 546 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: A little bit father. 547 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so like that this isn't going to necessarily be 548 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: a walkover, And honestly, I wouldn't be shocked emotionally, like, 549 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: what does the team have left in their tanks, so 550 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 1: in your mind, like it's a real long shot I 551 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: think for Atlanta to reach the playoffs at this point, 552 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: you know, do you even want to try to sell 553 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: me on the fact that it could happen. 554 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 2: I mean, I think it could, But the fact of 555 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 2: the matter is is that, like, I'm not necessarily worried 556 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: about the Falcons not showing up against the Panthers. I 557 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: think they will because I think that they have the 558 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: right guys in the locker room that care about wins, 559 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: like Drake London in the locker room on literally last night, 560 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: you know, he breaks a thousand yards receiving for the 561 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 2: first time in his career. And I'm not gonna say 562 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: what he actually said because I don't know if I 563 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: can cuzz on this podcast, but essentially he was like, 564 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 2: that's irrelevant, as like, and I there are competitors. Grady 565 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: Jarrett kind of is Gredy Jered is not the type 566 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: of person who's gonna sit there and be like, yeah, 567 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 2: we're just gonna pull back a little bit. Jesse Bates 568 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: is not that type of person. Justin Simmons is not 569 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 2: that type of person. Like the leaders on this team 570 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 2: are not. I don't think they have the makeup to 571 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 2: just kind of be like all right, bye, like we're 572 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: going into the offseason. Thanks for a good twenty twenty 573 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: four was fun for a little while. 574 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: All my travel agent on the way home. 575 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: From this, Yeah, Like, I don't think that this locker 576 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 2: room is made up like that. So I do think 577 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 2: that the Falcons will show up at home against the 578 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: Panthers and at least give it to him a little bit. 579 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: I mean, I think if you can show me the 580 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: like a dominant performance, I'm like, all right, cool. But 581 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: it all depends upon the Saints like and that. 582 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: And more importantly the Bucks, who are really. 583 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 2: Well, like they have like they're healthy like and that 584 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 2: was another thing, is like the Falcons caught the Bucks 585 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: at a really strange time in their twenty twenty four 586 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: season where they didn't have Chris Godwin, didn't have Mike Evans. 587 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: And little time to adjust and little time to gotten 588 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: Jalen Millen going right, Hadden' gotten you know, backup, tight 589 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: ends involved like. 590 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Karton, Yeah, it was like the Falcons no, yeah, 591 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: And and so I think like this team is fun there. 592 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: They're fundamentally different now than they were back in October 593 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: and I don't see I don't see how the Saints 594 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: win that game if I'm being completely honest, and and 595 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 2: that's what's gonna like, that's what's gonna suck. If you're 596 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: the Falcons, is like you'll I think the Falcons will 597 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: go out and beat the Panthers. I think they should. 598 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: I think they will. I think that even though the 599 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 2: Panthers are playing better ball of late in the last 600 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 2: month of the season, and they're a different team with 601 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: a different quarterback than the Falcons face the first time around, 602 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 2: I still think the Falcons should win that game. And 603 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: what it should and what I think is gonna be 604 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: very interesting is like both of those games are happening 605 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: simultaneously and will know simultaneously one way or the other. 606 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 2: And it's I could so see it happening where the 607 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 2: Falcons beat the Panthers and the Bucks just absolutely destroy 608 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 2: the Saints. 609 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I see a world where it's. 610 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,479 Speaker 2: That's that's the that's if I'm putting odds on it, 611 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: I'm putting eighty percent of odds on that happening. 612 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you're right. Like currently the playoff 613 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: odds are like sixteen percent for Atlanta, Like that that 614 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: is the number. It's like, all right, here's kind of 615 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: what we think will happen in that Tampa New Orleans game, 616 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: because again, I trust Atlanta to handle their business because 617 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,479 Speaker 1: they were the better team than Carolina. This one's at home, 618 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: they've already beaten them on the road. Yeah, they Like 619 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: I just could see a world where it's late second quarter, 620 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: early third quarter, seventeen to three Atlanta and you look 621 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: up and it's twenty seven to seven Tampa. Yeah right, 622 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: and you're just kind of like, all right, well, looks 623 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: like these are the last two quarters. 624 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: We've got exactly, And that's such a terrible position to 625 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: be in. And I feel like it's what's been the 626 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,719 Speaker 2: reality of the NFC South for the last like few years, 627 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: Like a lot of the last like two what three seasons, 628 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 2: it really has come down to the week sixteen, seventeen eighteen, yeah, slate, yep. 629 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: And it's so it's so frustrating because it like it didn't. 630 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: Need to be that way, and it's come down to 631 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: that without it being within their control exactly, come down 632 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: to it. 633 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: They haven't played that many nfcs out of opponents since 634 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: after the bye week, Like that's the thing is like 635 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 2: they played all of their NFC South opponents before you 636 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: ever got to the. 637 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: Buy this will be the next one, Yes, And. 638 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: It's just like it does. 639 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: It's just sound like, oh my gosh, like New Orleans 640 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: in New Orleans in a game that And this may 641 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: actually be our question of the week this week, if 642 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: you could have one more shot at a game already played, 643 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: Like if you could redo one game on the Falcons schedule, 644 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: what would it be? And New Orleans would be high 645 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: up on my list? Yeah, I like, if if you 646 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: play that game ten times, I think Atlanta wins like 647 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: eight of them. 648 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: If young Way who makes one more field goal, like 649 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 2: that game could have gone any which way or direction. 650 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 2: And I agree with you that if you go back 651 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: and you redo that game, you feel differently. I also think, 652 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: like if I'm going back through it and I'm thinking 653 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: about the games that I felt that Denver game right 654 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: before the bye week, Yeah, gross, that was that was 655 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: a really tough one. Like if you could have at 656 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 2: least put a better performance together in that game. Now, 657 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: granted I know they were extremely beat up in the 658 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 2: secondary and allowed Boonicks to just. 659 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: Go off, Denver seemed like they were just a buzz 660 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: saw on that game almost like I kind of don't 661 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: know what you could have done, maybe getting guys healthy, 662 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: maybe having your guys in the back end. 663 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: But but that that one was really tough. And then I, 664 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 2: you know, this one like this one against Washington like 665 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: that to to not have or even the Chargers game. 666 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: Like Chargers game is another great one. 667 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 2: Chargers game is the one that I felt like, oh, 668 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: like the wheels are falling off a little bit, like 669 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: and that was the game that Kirk Cousins through four 670 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: interceptions like it, I don't know, man, I don't know. 671 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 2: We could go all day with it with that answer 672 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: or that question. 673 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: I want to try to and fans may kill me 674 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: for this, try to pull us out of the muck 675 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: a little bit and before we get out of here, 676 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: just highlight a couple of things maybe that stood out 677 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: to us on a positive note, right, like I think A. J. 678 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: Terrell I tweeted this out after the game. Next Gen 679 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: Stats had an amazing stat He covered Terry McLaurin on 680 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: like ninety four percent of his routes, gave up or 681 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: allowed like one point two yards of separation on the 682 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: targets seven targets, one catch allab five yards. He took 683 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: their number one receiver, a player who came into the 684 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: game second in the NFL, and touchdown catches nowhere to 685 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: be seen, know where to be seen. They have a 686 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: missing person's alert out for Terry McLaurin in Washington right 687 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: now because of Ajterrell. And he has been doing that 688 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: all year, all year. I'm justin Jefferson against Ceedee Lamb, 689 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: against the best players in the NFL. 690 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: I don't know if AJ Terrell will be an All 691 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 2: Pro this year. I don't know if he'll, but he's 692 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 2: played like it. But he has played like I don't 693 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 2: know if he'll get a Pro Bowl nod, but he 694 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 2: has played like it. It is really Corner is such 695 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: a fascinating position, and this is something that I asked 696 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 2: for him about two weeks ago. 697 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: I think that's why they're all crazy. 698 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 2: I know you have to be. You have to be 699 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: crazy to play that position because you're on an island 700 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: so much, and like you, your mistakes are amplified tenfold. 701 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: Nobody notices the things you're doing well. 702 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: Exactly because then the ball doesn't get thrown your way. 703 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: So like the ball's completely on the opposite side of 704 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 2: the field, and you're just like cool, like I didn't mind, I'm. 705 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: Not like emeritiths status. And then and then you get 706 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: like three years of being just like Darrell Reevis the 707 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: Awesome Water or Patrick Peterson, where like you can even 708 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: have a bad year, but people are just going to 709 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: pencil you in because you're just a name brand. Yeah, 710 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: but like you have to break into that echelon and 711 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: a I don't know why it's close. I think as 712 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: you can be. 713 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 2: Right, No, I don't know why he hasn't, especially after 714 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty one year that he had. 715 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: I think it's because there was a couple of years 716 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: there where he dipped back to the pack. But this 717 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: year has been better, like as good, if not better 718 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: than that. 719 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 2: I know, I would put it up there with that 720 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one's got. 721 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: Two picks, Like really, well. 722 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: I don't understand why more people aren't talking about him 723 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 2: like point blank period. And I know we're around it 724 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 2: all the time and we watch all twenty two and 725 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 2: so we actually have the opportunity to really truly zero 726 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: in on what he's doing. I just hope the other 727 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 2: like when it comes to like all pro voting and 728 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl voting and like when coaches and players of 729 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,479 Speaker 2: opposing teams or like. 730 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: I think he'll get the respect there, That's. 731 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: What I hope, because I don't know if he's getting 732 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: as much respect as I feel like he has warranted 733 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 2: in his play this year from the national scope of 734 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 2: like NFL fan bases. Yeah, and that's a shame because 735 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: he's playing at a really, really high level and he's 736 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 2: playing up to the contract that the Falcons gave him 737 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 2: at the start of the season. 738 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: Ye again, the pass rush really has been a stand 739 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: out too. But Jon Robinson on the other side of 740 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: the ball, Like, what more can you say? He is 741 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: just so much fun to watch. 742 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: It's funny because my dad texted me like after I 743 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: think it was either the second or third Falcons drive, 744 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: and it just said I tweeted this, but it was 745 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 2: like he just Saidjon Robinson's really good. 746 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: Good football players, really good football player like you. 747 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,959 Speaker 2: I love watching Jon Robinson play, and every single time 748 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 2: it's funny going to other like going to other press 749 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 2: boxes and hearing from other reporters who cover like the 750 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 2: posing team and hearing kind of defensive coordinators and defenders 751 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 2: talk Aboutjon Robinson because I think he shot I think 752 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 2: people can watch him on film and be like, oh, 753 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: like he's been doing all these moves and he's really 754 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: cool and he's super slimy and super quick, and he's 755 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: like he's just he's such a fun like talent, and 756 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 2: he has this feel for the game. I talk about 757 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 2: it all the time. He has a feel for the 758 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 2: game that I've never seen from anybody before. And he 759 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: has a vision that I've never seen from anybody before. 760 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 2: He's one of one. I truly believe that. And hearing 761 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 2: what like hearing the like ooh or the os of 762 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 2: other people watching Bajon who don't get to see him 763 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 2: on a day to day basis is a lot of 764 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: fun like because it kind of reaffirms that, like, no, 765 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: what you're seeing is not normal. What but Jon Robinson 766 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 2: is doing, how he's looking at the game, how he's 767 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 2: feeling and reading it is not normal. It's a gift. 768 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: He's He's the type of player in this Like the 769 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: highest compliment I think I could pay anything is like 770 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,240 Speaker 1: he makes me want to immediately just start like writing 771 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: about him, Like I just want to start describing what 772 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: I'm seeing and use the most colorful language, and like, 773 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: I just want to talk about him, and I think 774 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: that's what you're getting at, is like people just when 775 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: they see it, they're like, are you seeing this? No, 776 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: look at this. 777 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is. 778 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:15,800 Speaker 1: Like. 779 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 2: Every single time he does something, everybody's like hey man. 780 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, like tappy on your shoulder, like a stranger you've 781 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: never met. It's like when somebody scores a touchdown and 782 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: you turn to like the person you've just been sitting 783 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: next to you all game and you have not talked 784 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: to once, and you're like, hi, fine, right right, yeah, 785 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: we're now let's go back to ignoring each other. Like 786 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: speak again. I know we never obviously watched like Walter 787 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,479 Speaker 1: Payton play, but he's like the player that I keep 788 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: kind of thinking about when they're like sweetness, just he 789 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: was so smooth and could glide and he's flowing and 790 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 1: it's like that to me is John Robinson. And it's 791 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: it's again such a joy to watch him. But it's 792 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: a shame that we're not going to see him in 793 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: the postseason potentially, right again, everything still a big astros, 794 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: but you know, it's just he's so good. He's such 795 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: a good player. Would be so much fun to see 796 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: him on that stage. 797 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 2: And that's the thing is, like, there are so many 798 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 2: guys who I think are playing at Pro Bowl levels 799 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 2: and all pro levels that maybe don't aren't gonna become 800 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 2: those because the team hasn't won games. And that's a shame. 801 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 1: That's a shame. 802 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 2: And it goes back to the point that we were 803 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 2: originally making off the top about how they are individual 804 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 2: pieces of this team that're playing. 805 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: Really really good ball. 806 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, but like for some reason it's not coming together 807 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 2: and wins. And that's what's so unfortunate about this team. 808 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: And it's it's what the team will have to tackle 809 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: and if if they don't ultimately make the postseason, they'll 810 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: have an off season to think about. All right, how 811 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 1: do we take that next step? How do we bring 812 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: again these individual pieces and make the sum as great 813 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: as it can be. But you're a Pro Bowl podcaster, 814 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: Thank you so thank you for joining me. Thank you 815 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: all for listening to today's you know, a little bit 816 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: of a downer episode. But hey, we're here, rain or Shine, 817 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: and we've got one more of these to go, so 818 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: be able to lookout for our preview pop coming on Friday. 819 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: We will talk about the Falcons Panthers matchup in the 820 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: regular season finale, and then we'll be around throughout the 821 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: off season. 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