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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 3: We have a president of United States that when he

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Speaker 3: sends his war fighters out to fight, he unties their

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Speaker 3: hands to actually go out and close with and destroy

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Speaker 3: the enemy as viciously as possible.

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Speaker 2: From moment one. And that's why we.

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Speaker 3: See ourselves as part of this negotiation as well.

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Speaker 2: We negotiate with bombs. You have a choice. As we

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Speaker 2: loiter over.

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Speaker 3: The top of Tehran, as the President talked about about

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Speaker 3: your future, President has made it clear that you will

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Speaker 3: not have a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 2: The War Department agrees.

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Speaker 3: Our job is to ensure that, and so we're keeping

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Speaker 3: our hand on that throttle as long as hard as

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Speaker 3: is necessary to ensure the interest of the United States

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Speaker 3: of America are achieved on that battlefield.

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Speaker 2: That's Secretary of War Pete hag Zev talking about the

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Speaker 2: military version of diplomacy, and that was very militaristic. You

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Speaker 2: get that out of the Secretary of War. Now to

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Speaker 2: the talking part of diplomacy. We sent them a fifteen

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Speaker 2: point plan for negotiation which is not exactly unconditional surrender,

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Speaker 2: and they rejected it wholeheartedly. According to all reports, people

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Speaker 2: like us will never negotiate with people like you. And

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Speaker 2: then there's some other reports out today from other people saying, no,

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Speaker 2: that's all, it's a non starter. We are not negotiating.

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, the Gulf ab states are growing alarmed by Trump's

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Speaker 4: eagerness to do a deal, with the leaders of Saudi

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Speaker 4: Arabian UAE, lobbying Trump to stick with the war until

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Speaker 4: Eran is sufficiently weakened that it won't pose a threat anymore.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm moving pieces.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm on their side.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, yeah, again to the theme, how do you

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Speaker 4: negotiate with a death cult? And there's absolutely part of

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Speaker 4: Iran's leadership that is a death cult. Is the new

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Speaker 4: guy maybe part of that death cult? Kind of hard

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Speaker 4: to say. Mohammed Bagger Golliboff is the guy who Jack

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Speaker 4: mentioned earlier. He was the head guy in Iran's parliament,

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Speaker 4: the parliament speaker, and the parliament is more or less

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Speaker 4: a rubber stamp of the Mullahs and or the Revolutionary Guard.

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Speaker 4: And we were wondering, you know, does this guy have

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Speaker 2: So he's like the Mike Johnson of Iran, not exactly.

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Speaker 4: He's emerging as a somewhat unlikely figure to be the

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Speaker 4: point guy and perhaps the leader. But all the likely

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Speaker 4: figures are with Allah now. So Golliboff is a former

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Speaker 4: Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Air Force commander, so he's got

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Speaker 4: real ties to the IRGC, their air force.

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Speaker 2: What is that now, you mean.

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Speaker 4: Well, well, it didn't perform super great, so it was

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Speaker 4: never great shakes anyway.

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Speaker 2: He was also the mayor of Tehran for a while.

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Speaker 2: He was known as being a.

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Speaker 4: Modern, pretty responsive to the populist politician, really helped with

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Speaker 4: the infrastructure of that famously excuse me, insanely traffic clogged city,

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Speaker 4: business friendly, more business friendly than other parts of the regime.

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Speaker 4: He actually traveled to Davos a number of years ago

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Speaker 4: to portray himself as Hey, I'm not a mula, I'm

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about investing here.

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Speaker 4: He's among a small group of regime figures who fit

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Speaker 4: He's big on the bombastic and great Satan rhetoric. But

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Speaker 4: Iran watchers say in the past He's demonstrated some pragmatism,

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Speaker 4: he's got good regime bona fides. He's known as a hardliner,

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Speaker 4: and he could so he could be the only nixt

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Speaker 4: Thon could go to China type. We don't know, So

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Speaker 4: keep an eye on this guy, Mohammed Bagger gullybuff or

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Speaker 4: he might be atomized tomorrow by the Israelis right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: That's a point I was going to make that even

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Speaker 2: if we decide to call off the dogs, Israel very

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Speaker 2: well might not let me hit.

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Speaker 4: You with some of this guy's Twitter postings of rate

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Speaker 4: of late and I quote, our people demand the complete

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Speaker 4: and humiliating punishment of the aggressors. No negotiations with America

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Speaker 4: have taken place. Fake news is intended to manipulate financial

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Speaker 4: and oil markets and escape the quagmire in which America

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Speaker 4: and Israel are trapped. He's called on her ends neighbors

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Speaker 4: to expel US forces, warn the countries buying US debt

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Speaker 4: could be treated as adversaries buying bonds. He's openly mocked

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Speaker 4: to Washington and I quote, so what do you think?

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Speaker 4: Tell tell a general heg Seth. He wrote March fourteenth,

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Speaker 4: Tell a general like he's just a general on TV.

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Speaker 4: That's a pretty good shot. Yeah, it's pretty sophisticated shot. So

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Speaker 4: he's a con troll. Uh So, what do you think

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Speaker 4: tell a general? Heg seth. They are sending poor boys

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Speaker 4: to fix what the general's broke, go die for Israel,

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Speaker 2: Of MAGA believes is the case. Uh So the whole

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Speaker 2: taco thing. Trump puts out a forty eight hour threat,

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Speaker 2: then comes out on Monday morning and says a threat

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Speaker 2: off for five days. Looks like we got a negotiation

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Speaker 2: going on. A lot of the mainstream media goes with

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Speaker 2: their taco Trump always chickens out rhetoric. Neil Ferguson, historian

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Speaker 2: who we like here on the Armstrong and get he

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Speaker 2: shown he've had on a number of times, wrote this yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I want nothing to do with the juvenile journalistic debate

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Speaker 2: about whether by postponing on Monday his threat and attacks

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Speaker 2: on Iranian power plants, Trump chickened out the way he

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Speaker 2: rolled back to tariffs in April last year, the way

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Speaker 2: he always chickens out. Please, he doesn't always chicken out.

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Speaker 2: He carries out roughly half of the threats he makes,

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Speaker 2: which is a pretty effective strategy and game theory, so

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Speaker 2: long as your adversaries are risk adverse, which most of

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Speaker 2: them are. Fifty percent of the time, he follows through

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Speaker 2: on these threats and blows the crap out of something

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Speaker 2: or keeps the tariffs or whatever, and about halftime he

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Speaker 2: backs off, which is the point is to get your

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Speaker 2: goal reached. The point is not to follow through on

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Speaker 2: your threat. The point is to get your goal reached.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes he thinks I'm going to reach my goal easier,

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Speaker 2: but backing off this threat and then pivoting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like parenting. And it occurred to me

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Speaker 4: the other day. I'm so glad we brought this up.

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Speaker 4: Is it's just he behaves just like a top poker player.

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Speaker 4: Would you want to avoid consistency in poker because really

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Speaker 4: good players observe what everybody does and realize, okay, that

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Speaker 4: guy never bets unless he has a really good hand.

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Speaker 4: He he is the kind of player who will never

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Speaker 4: bluff and once they nail you like that, then then

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Speaker 4: they can well they can beat you because they know

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Speaker 4: what you're gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Roughly, Trump is a.

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Speaker 4: Guy who bluffs wildly and has to lay down his

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Speaker 4: cards and then the next time he comes at you hard,

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Speaker 4: he's got the nuts, as they say in poker, he's

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Speaker 4: got a really, really good hand. And you realize, oh

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Speaker 4: my god, this guy's all over the map. I don't

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Speaker 4: know what he's gonna do. I better be cautious.

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Speaker 2: If you got the nuts, that means you've got the

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Speaker 2: good cards.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you got the hand that'll win. With the

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Speaker 4: origin of the phrase, so don't ask.

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Speaker 2: And it kind of like going forward on fourth down.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you do and sometimes you don't. Depends on the situation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, or you know, everybody expects to pass, so

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Speaker 4: you run a running place. Sure, predictability is not good

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Speaker 4: in this sort of well game theories.

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Speaker 2: Neil put it right.

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Speaker 4: Oh you want to know his other headline for the

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Speaker 4: Free Press, here's a humdinger. Brace yourself. A recession is

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Speaker 4: coming right. The war in Iran is choking global energy supply.

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Speaker 4: History shows shocks like this rarely end without a recession.

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Speaker 4: But we've mocked the obsession with recession, the term recession

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Speaker 4: on the show for many, many years. Unless you lose

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Speaker 4: your job, it probably won't affect you.

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Speaker 2: So Mark Halprin's newsletter today took the form of Trump's

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Speaker 2: inner thoughts. So this would be a journalist with a

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Speaker 2: lot of sources guessing what he thinks Trump is thinking,

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Speaker 2: and he came up with this as the last paragraph

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Speaker 2: of the Trump's Inner Thoughts. The greatest trick is not

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Speaker 2: convincing people you're strong. It's convincing them you're not predictable.

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Speaker 2: But I am, in fact predictable about this. I'm moving

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Speaker 2: the ground forces into the region right now. Then BBE

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Speaker 2: and I are going to make the war air war

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Speaker 2: to date look like a tea party. Taran is about

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Speaker 2: to be a parking lot sometime before May. First regime

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Speaker 2: change is coming, and I'm going to be the greatest

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Speaker 2: war hero in American history. That's Halpern's guess as to

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Speaker 2: what Trump's inner thoughts are currently.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure he's right, but he's definitely not definitely wrong, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's not.

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Speaker 2: Hard to imagine Trump wanting to make a mark for

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Speaker 2: all time and understanding that sometimes you're a bit of

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Speaker 2: a villain in your own time, but you'll be remembered

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Speaker 2: for history as a great man. Great in quotes, because

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Speaker 2: great can encompass a lot of things.

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Speaker 4: Well, and he's been so villified. I think that's the

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Speaker 4: same road as villain. He doesn't care anymore. Here's one

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Speaker 4: concern I have, though. Even though eighty percent of the

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Speaker 4: folks in Iran hate the regime, I mean, they despise it.

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Speaker 4: People hate even more their country being occupied by a

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Speaker 2: They hate it bad. Kind of remember that happening a

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Speaker 4: And so unless you can accomplish something fairly quickly, that

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: On the other hand, it was pointed out that I

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Speaker 4: wish I had this in Frida. I have it around

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Speaker 4: here somewhere. Comparing the timetables of the current conflict with

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Speaker 2: Gulf War two, I saw that too. It took a

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Speaker 2: long long time. Oh you know that. It's like one

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty days or something like that from shocking aye,

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Speaker 4: And this is not some sort of plea to be

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Speaker 4: casual with lives or treasure or anything like that. But

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Speaker 4: during the ninety one Operation Desert Storm against a Rosnam

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Speaker 4: Who's Sanging, a campaign widely considered a brilliant military success,

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Speaker 4: the US led coalition lost seventy five aircraft, forty two

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Speaker 4: an accident. Not a single man plane has been yet

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Speaker 4: lost over Iran the US air and land campaign. That

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Speaker 4: operation lasted a full six weeks. Today it's remembered as

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Speaker 4: a lightning fast war. The current conflict with Iran is

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Speaker 4: less than four weeks old. The nineteen eighty nine ninety

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Speaker 4: invasion of Panama, you remember that old pineapple head. I

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Speaker 4: barely do the particulars of it. I just know what happened.

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Speaker 2: I was in a particularly rough spot in my life.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't taken in a lot of geopolitical news. That's

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Speaker 2: what I was, sub letting an apartment and using my

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Speaker 2: was not following. I didn't have a TV for one thing.

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Speaker 4: So in the invasion of Panama, whose military phase lasted

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Speaker 4: a few days, the US lost twenty three soldiers, with

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Speaker 4: three hundred and twenty five more wounded. So far, in

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Speaker 4: two hundred and thirty wounded. Most have swiftly returned to duty.

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Speaker 4: During the Persian Gulf crisis that began with their ox

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Speaker 4: and the dawfeld by about thirteen percent before the Allied

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Speaker 4: Most people's wives are a lot of things, but able

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Speaker 4: A moon base. Okay, I'll be exciting that nuclear powered vehicle.

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Speaker 2: All right, it's just clear what's going on here. So

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Speaker 4: occasionally on Facebook. Was the Facebook app open? Buried in

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Pair of shorts. I don't need them. Well, sure, anyway,

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Speaker 2: shorts makes more sense than like refrigerator, lawnmowers, lots of

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Speaker 2: different things that you buy once every fifteen years. God,

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Speaker 2: I've got one of those. I don't remember what it

443
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Speaker 2: is that just keeps hitting me with the ads I'll

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Speaker 2: never need to buy that again. Who can I tell

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Speaker 2: that I'll never need to buy that again? See you

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Speaker 2: stop sending me those ads. Well, oh go ahead, Katie.

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Speaker 7: Well no, this is all reminding me also of the

448
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Speaker 7: Nancy Guthrie case, how she had unsubscribed from her house

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Speaker 7: cameras and then the more footage just came out last week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they got well And on the ear point, Jack,

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Speaker 4: I now, and I'm sure I'm not the only one

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Speaker 4: I have. I'm getting spammed more than I was like

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Speaker 4: two months ago, and I thought it was like it's

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Speaker 4: some sort of outer limit.

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Speaker 2: I get a phone spammed, oh, half a dozen.

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Speaker 4: To ten times a day, and it's always the same

457
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Speaker 4: thing about I'm calling to call a report on the

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Speaker 4: progress of your business loan or I'm I'm calling to

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Speaker 4: see if I can help you with your business sloan,

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Speaker 4: and blah blah blah, And it appears to be randomly

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Speaker 4: generated phone numbers because I block him and I block him,

462
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Speaker 4: and I block him, and I block him, and it

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Speaker 4: doesn't do any good.

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Speaker 2: We got to get some laws passed on that. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how you square that with the First Amendment.

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Speaker 4: No, we got laws, you can't enforce them. That these

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Speaker 4: are yeah, these are offshore, yeah servers, drone strike. Oh

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Speaker 4: wait a minute, now you're talking. Let me get Pete

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Speaker 4: Hegsath on the line. Secretary Pete Joe here.

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Speaker 2: I would love that find out where they are and

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Speaker 2: make them glow.

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Speaker 4: Yep yep, back to the stone Age. That's when I

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Speaker 4: say one final kind of tech AI note. I thought

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Speaker 4: this was merely kind of fun and interesting. This guy,

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Speaker 4: Nicholas Deckert, who writes about tech, did a bunch of

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Speaker 4: research and looked at other research.

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Speaker 2: On who uses AI in Congress.

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Speaker 4: He put like the entire congressional record and which has

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Speaker 4: like everything that happens in front of Congress through AI detectors.

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Speaker 4: And he said, well, he's asking how has AI been

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Speaker 4: adopted by members of Congress, What effect, if any, has

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Speaker 4: it had on the ideological content of legislation, What effect

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Speaker 4: has it had on the rhetoric? Has it made them

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Speaker 4: more productive? And can we attribute adoption to the members

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Speaker 4: of their staff. In brief, it has been widely adopted,

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Speaker 4: but without any impact on actual policy outcomes as far

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Speaker 4: as they can tell.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know. I actually I'm looking at who

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Speaker 2: uses it the most.

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Speaker 4: More as an expression of Okay, these people and or

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Speaker 4: their staffers are kind of hip to technology and the

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Speaker 4: rest of it. Not that it's an indictment or anything,

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Speaker 4: but number one and they don't have the first name

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Speaker 4: Owens from Utah and Quaar in Texas, Jackson, Illinois, Hernandez.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. The first is a republic the people that aren't,

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Speaker 2: which shows that they have no interest in what's going

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Speaker 2: on in the world. That's about to be the most

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Speaker 2: important topic on earth. Yeah, the top ten is a Republican.

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Speaker 4: Then I think it's six Democrats than Republican Republican Democrats. Anyway,

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Speaker 4: adoption has been substantial in the past three months of

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Speaker 4: the one hundred and nineteenth Congress, fully twenty five percent

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Speaker 4: of documents in the Congressional record are AI generated.

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Speaker 2: No, it'll be all of them soon probably. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Speeches especially are being cracked out by AI.

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Speaker 2: I'm more concerned with the ancient senator or House member

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Speaker 2: who says ironed AIS bunch of crap, hasn't spent any

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Speaker 2: time looking into it and has no interest in any

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Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, which is how we're going to get

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Speaker 2: overrun by AI robots. See floor speeches. Seven percent AI

510
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Speaker 2: extension of remarks whatever that is. I don't even know

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Speaker 2: what that is. Thirty percent.

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Speaker 4: A much higher adoption in the House than the Senate,

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Speaker 4: which you might expect because the House is much younger

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Speaker 4: than the Senate.

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Speaker 2: Although this staff ought to be hip to this stuff.

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Speaker 4: Although the grumbling old senator you portrayed so convincingly a

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Speaker 4: moment or two ago might be telling it. Staff don't

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Speaker 4: bother right, Yeah, anyway, just mildly interesting.

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Speaker 2: Why would anybody write a resume in the modern world

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Speaker 2: and not just have AI do it for you? Or

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Speaker 2: lots of things?

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Speaker 4: Oh sure, yeah, yeah. If I wasn't in the downward

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Speaker 4: coasting phase of my career, I'd be using the hell

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Speaker 4: out of it.

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Speaker 2: The one foot in the grave phase of your career exactly,

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Speaker 2: and one toe on the other foot, Oh wow, you

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Speaker 2: put the other foot in there now, just a toe,

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Speaker 2: but I got one point two foots in the grave.

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Speaker 4: That's a moment, let's be honest, And that's and that

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Speaker 4: second foot creeps a little closer and you got one.

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Speaker 2: That's right. That is a moment. We will finished strong next.

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Speaker 8: After a long day of photos this is and being

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Speaker 8: walked on by the man, there's only one thing. A

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Speaker 8: hard working lawn like you want natural light And introducing

535
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Speaker 8: lawn brew, a fertilizer made from spent grains.

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Speaker 9: That's the stuff left over after brewing beer. And it's

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Speaker 9: great for ruscious lawns like you. Lawn brew all the

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Speaker 9: gregs of beer now for lawns.

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Speaker 2: What the hell does that mean? Set serious or a joke?

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Speaker 1: Er on?

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Speaker 2: That's a real product apparently. Okay, yeah, the grains that

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Speaker 2: they make of beer, they're actually taking the grain and

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Speaker 2: putting on lawns. Fine, but what's I don't understand the

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Speaker 2: combining them into any meaning whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: Well, didn't you hear after a long day of a

546
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Speaker 4: photosynthesis and being walked on? I crave a beer just

547
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Speaker 4: like my owner, and I as the owner of that grass. Think, Hey,

548
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Speaker 4: me and my grass are buddies. I'm gonna buy it

549
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Speaker 4: this beer fertilizer. Okay, come on, who here's that thing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? That makes sense. In other beverage news, be careful

551
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Speaker 2: if you drink a Sarah's Charge lemonade Panera bread. This

552
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Speaker 2: is one of those ultra caffeinated drinks that has killed

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Speaker 2: a few people. So it says here the total maximum

554
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Speaker 2: daily intake for adults is for undred milligrams. Of course,

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Speaker 2: that's probably the CDC or whatever. And I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I should believe them on a freaking thing about

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Speaker 2: anything ever in my life, because that would only be

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Speaker 2: four cups of coffee total per day. Please hold my

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Speaker 2: coffee coffee anyway, Sarah's Charge lemonade contains three hundred and

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Speaker 2: ninety milligrams of caffeine. One of them they eat a

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Speaker 2: Panera bread, So that's the entire four hundred milligram daily

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Speaker 2: intake you're supposed to get and lemonade. A couple of

563
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Speaker 2: people have taken it, and but it's charged. I really

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Speaker 2: work at trying to keep my son's caffeine under control,

565
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Speaker 2: but it's it's off because he out with other friends

566
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Speaker 2: and they go to other people's houses and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: But man, the younger generation with their red bulls and

568
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: monsters and whatnot, and it's there's something different about it.

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard anybody explain it to me because I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm well, I know my way around some caffeine. I

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Speaker 2: take a sip of one of those, and I feel

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Speaker 2: like my head's gonna pop off. There's something different about

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Speaker 2: the caffeine in a Monster than in the coffee I drink.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but I can't drink

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Speaker 2: those things, but young people drink them, hammer them down

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Speaker 2: like they're quenching their thirst.

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Speaker 7: No, I used to be, but now it just my

578
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Speaker 7: heart rates spikes and it makes me freak out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I've tried a couple of them, and I thought they

581
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 4: tasted disgusting. So I haven't really gotten past.

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Speaker 2: Nine hundred different flavors of Monster, for instance.

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Speaker 7: So it's probably like the rock Star juiced and it

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Speaker 7: tasted like fruit punch and it was I was drinking

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Speaker 7: like three of those a shift when I worked at

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Speaker 7: Trader Jazz.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Got y'all jacked up, though, Oh yeah, yes, I

588
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Speaker 2: wonder why you would even make a drink like the

589
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Speaker 2: whatever this was called, Uh, that has the almost four

590
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Speaker 2: hundred milligrams of caffeine, and I wonder why you would

591
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Speaker 2: even make that. Is there an audience that that wants

592
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Speaker 2: to take in? There Sarah's charge lemonade wants taken the

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Speaker 2: full daily dose of caffeine in one drink while you

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Speaker 2: have a sandwich and Panera bread.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's your your son and his compatriots and the

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Speaker 4: next generation a little older than that, or their energy

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Speaker 4: drink swinging.

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Speaker 2: Gentkies, and they built up tolerances to it. Is that

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Speaker 2: how it works, That's part of it. Yeah, ooh, I

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Speaker 2: think I'd end up in the hospitals. What they got, sots,

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Speaker 2: here's yours for fine the thoughts, Joe getny thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Uh, hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on

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Speaker 4: the crew to wrap things up to the day. There

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Speaker 4: he is pressing the buttons are technical director Mike Lanslo.

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Speaker 2: Michael, Yeah, I'm getting the following ads on my phone.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting stuff about cars, laxatives, and walk in tubs.

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Speaker 2: So I got to watch what I'm talking about, you know,

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Speaker 2: with my wife. I'm getting some weird ads. Wow, wow,

609
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Speaker 2: like for elderly people. Yeah, I get it. Yep, Katie

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Speaker 2: Green or esteam used woman.

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Speaker 7: As a final thought, Katie, just still on the energy

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Speaker 7: drink stuff. When I quit drinking those, I started getting

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Speaker 7: caffeine withdrawal headaches.

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Speaker 2: And those were awful. Yeah, I have those on the

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Speaker 2: weekend because I'm used to a certain amount of caffeine.

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Speaker 2: Mm jack. A final thought for us, Yeah, we got

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Speaker 2: to quit suing places like so if you drank way

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Speaker 2: too much caffeine, that's a you decision. If you watched

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Speaker 2: YouTube videos for sixteen hours a day and it made

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Speaker 2: you depressed, seems like a you decision. I quit suing

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Speaker 2: these companies for this sort of thing.

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Speaker 4: My final thought is tomorrow, I want to think about

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Speaker 4: the useless idiot jackasses of Code Pink and others who

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Speaker 4: are flocking to Cuba to stand with the communist regime

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Speaker 2: You people are seriously stupid. How do you feed yourselves?

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Speaker 2: Have you heard the one floating around that Cuba has

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Speaker 2: a cure for lung cancer, but Western imperial forces won't

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Speaker 2: allow them to spread it around the world. Oh that's

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Speaker 2: a good one. That's a good one. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: you're an idiot if you believe that. Armstrong and Getty

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