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We went on it 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: all week. 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 4: Officially, former University of Michigan head football coach Aran Moore 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 4: has been charged with a felony third degree home invasion 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 4: and two misdemeanors stalking in a domestic relationship and breaking entering. 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 4: Now here's the details, just so you know, this is 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 4: very serious stuff. According to the prosecutors, Moore barged his 15 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 4: way into the woman's apartment, which we find out is 16 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 4: a Michigan staffer that he was having relationship with, went 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 4: to a drawer in the kitchen, grabbed several butter knives 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 4: and a pair of kitchen scissors before threatening to take 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 4: his own life. According to the report, Moore had an 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 4: intimate relationship with the woman he worked with for a 21 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 4: number of years before she broke up with him on Monday. Now, 22 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 4: according to multiple outlets, there had been rumors of a 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 4: relationship between More and this staffer for a long time. 24 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 4: The school investigated it, but because both parties denied any relationship, 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 4: nothing ever came of it. 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 5: Once she broke up with him. 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 6: She came back with the receipts, according to this report, 28 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 6: had a flurry of calls and texts that she did 29 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 6: not return. 30 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 4: He started to get very aggressive with her. Then she 31 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 4: went to the school and reported the relationship. Here's the details. 32 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 4: This is what led to him ultimately being fired. Flash 33 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 4: forward to Wednesday. He breaks into her house, gets into 34 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 4: the kitchen, the knives and the scissors, forced entry into 35 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 4: her home and said, quote, I'm going to kill myself. 36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna make you watch. My blood is on your hands. 37 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 4: You ruined my life. 38 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 6: Carry I'm gonna say this, and we're gonna take this 39 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 6: to the next step. Obviously there's a whole legal process 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 6: and things that have to go there. So we're gonna 41 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 6: take it to the future of Sharon Moore and where 42 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 6: he goes from here. You know, once he can clear 43 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 6: these other hurdles and about his future, because he just said, 44 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 6: my life is ruined and and other coaches have bounced back. 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 6: Rob Gi We've talked about this and names Rick Patino 46 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 6: allegedly had sex with one of his assistant coaches wives, 47 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 6: you know, like Bobby Petrino had his girlfriend on the 48 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 6: back of a motorcycle that had an accident. That's how 49 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 6: they found out about his thing. Yep, you mayo dooka 50 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 6: obviously in Boston with what an executive's wife or something 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 6: or someone who worked with the Celtics. Now he bounced back, 52 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 6: he had another job. He's in Houston or whatnot. And 53 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 6: Bobby Petrino and all these other people got other jobs. 54 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 6: And then we start to look at Sharon Moore and 55 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 6: say will he be able to bounce back from this? 56 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 6: And I will look in the camera and say, I 57 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 6: do not believe he will be able to. 58 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 5: Bounce back from this. 59 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 6: I thought early on that there would be a chance 60 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 6: that he could work at a smaller school, not a 61 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 6: a blue blood. And he got the Michigan job because 62 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 6: it was written in to Jim Harbaugh's contract. This wasn't 63 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 6: like he got it on his own and he was 64 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 6: his own man. And I'm not knocking them. Fifteen years 65 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 6: he put in but that's how he got the job exactly. 66 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 6: And I think not the affair or the firing from Michigan, 67 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 6: it's the felony and what followed that will make it 68 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 6: very difficult carry for somebody else to stand up there 69 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 6: at a podium and introduce this guy as a head 70 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 6: coach to a football program around young people and trying 71 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 6: to be a leader of men when allegedly he broke 72 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 6: into her house and threatened to kill her and him. 73 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 5: I don't know how you shake that. 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 6: And I'm not saying he can't go on or it 75 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 6: can't be rehabilitated, but I'm just saying, in that job, 76 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 6: you have to find a different line of work. I 77 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 6: can't see him being a leader of men at a 78 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 6: college institution around young people, just. 79 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 7: Put I would say this, I'm going to put aside 80 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 7: any of him coaching again. Ever, that's the furthest thing 81 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 7: from my mind in this situation when it comes to 82 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 7: this scenario. Right, like humans us as men, we put 83 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 7: ourselves in these situations where. 84 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: We're not. 85 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 7: Steadying who we are and steadying what we're trying to achieve. 86 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 7: As men, if you're steadying who you are and you're 87 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 7: steadying what you're trying to achieve things like this. Slip 88 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 7: ups like this won't happen. Obviously, there's underbelly stuff going on. 89 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 7: There's secret affairs, there's things that are happening in this situation. 90 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 7: In this case that it's none of our business. But 91 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 7: when you do what you did in the follow up 92 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 7: what you just said, I'll say one thing, go ahead, 93 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 7: we'll push back, go ahead. It is the university's business. 94 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 3: No universe at our business. 95 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm saying that's why it's public because they 96 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 6: have to fire him. 97 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 5: And what people don't understand. I hear this all the 98 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 5: time for people. What to it those doing their own bits? 99 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, not in a work situation where 100 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 6: someone is a superior and somebody's a subortin you carry, 101 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 6: if you're my boss, you now have control over my livelihood, 102 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 6: over you know, raises, promotions and if you know I'm 103 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 6: a female and you make an advance of me and 104 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 6: I say no, you could have me demoted, you could 105 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 6: have me fired, You could have So that's why in 106 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 6: a business setting, okay, if me and you are on 107 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 6: equal footing, there's no problem. People give they say, twenty 108 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 6: five percent of marriages, people meet at work. 109 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 5: I believe that, right. 110 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 6: Okay, so that but we're doing the same job. You're 111 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 6: not my boss, yes, And that's all I'm saying. That's 112 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 6: the only reason that that's not that's public and that's. 113 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 7: Fine, but I'm not speaking on that specific thing. So 114 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 7: it's like, yeah, we're talking about work setting, and you know, hierarchy, 115 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 7: that's a different thing. Obviously we've seen in our in 116 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 7: my business right in the entertainment world, Like the hierarchy 117 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 7: thing is a real thing, and like people people have good, yes, 118 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 7: and they do. 119 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 5: The boss of CNN got fired, the boss of NBC. 120 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 6: They all had, you know, like a consentual relationship, but 121 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 6: it was with a subordinate and they still got fired. 122 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 7: And that's the point. So like that happens, and I 123 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 7: know that, I know that's a real thing. I'm talking about. 124 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 7: This is a relationship that we just said, it was reported, 125 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 7: it's been going on for a while. This isn't something 126 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 7: like a flame, This isn't something that's a quote unquote 127 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 7: affair either. It seems like people knew that this was 128 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 7: going on. So I'm saying, like for us, we didn't 129 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 7: have to. That's we've seen that all the time. We 130 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 7: see that, right, but the fact that he's taken it 131 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 7: to the next level of now allegedly haradually harassing this 132 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 7: woman and showing up to her house and doing these 133 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 7: extracurricular things to really heighten this situation even more. You 134 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 7: talked about it former coach Bobby Petrino, this happened to him. 135 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 7: I say it, I know what it is, but those 136 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 7: things happen. I think people are forgiven about those things 137 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 7: because it is things that have happened. But when you 138 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 7: do it and take it the extra step that you 139 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 7: just said, that's the part where're scared. I'm scared for 140 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 7: him as a human not I mean his family, his wife, 141 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 7: his kid, kids, like the people that supported him, even 142 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 7: though John even Jim Harball right like putting himself on 143 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 7: the ledge and putting this guy in that position right 144 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 7: then doing that. So as a man, we gotta we 145 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 7: gotta be able to understand what we're trying to accomplish 146 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 7: and who we're and who we're supporting and who we're 147 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 7: being there for. Because even outside of yourself and your 148 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 7: mental health and the things that he has to go 149 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 7: over and get, you know, really do some work on 150 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 7: now there's ancillary pieces of this thing that gets affected 151 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 7: by this thing. And so that's what I'm really I'm 152 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 7: really down on about this whole situation. 153 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 5: Rob. Yeah, it's it's a it's a sad story. 154 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 6: I don't care anybody to see somebody's life flipped in 155 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 6: less than twenty four hours. 156 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 5: Is in credible, Like, Okay. 157 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 6: Yes, what happened is embarrassing, and you got to face 158 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 6: all these people, your minister, your family, everybody, like everybody, 159 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 6: it's embarrassing. I get all that, Yes, but then to 160 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 6: take it to the next level where you get the 161 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 6: police involved, and now you get charged with a felony 162 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 6: and was it felony and two misdemeanors or yeah right, yeah, yeah, 163 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 6: Like that's the scary part because now you could do 164 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 6: jail time. 165 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 3: Yes, and you're not forget the head coaching job. That's 166 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 3: that's not happening. 167 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 7: He may come back and as an assistant down the line, 168 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 7: possibly if somebody gives him a chance, But who's gonna 169 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 7: give him a chance, who's gonna trust him? 170 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 6: See that that that's he would to me without the 171 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 6: second part of the story. Yes, would be able to 172 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 6: get another job because there's a big fraternity and they 173 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 6: take care of each other. 174 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,239 Speaker 5: Yes, Rick Patino, he had prostitutes. 175 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: Both of them were at my school at Louisblle. So I. 176 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 6: Mean, I mean seriously, like Rick Patino, and he went 177 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 6: down and he coached some smaller schools. 178 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 5: But now he's back at Saint John's. He's in the 179 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 5: Big East. 180 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 6: He got a big job, yep, and he had prostitutes 181 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,599 Speaker 6: in the basketball doing like seriously. 182 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: But again, see those things are allegedly. 183 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 7: That's allegedly until you know, you know what I'm saying, 184 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 7: and until you do the extra step what Sharam just did, 185 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 7: like we know, it's a real thing. 186 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 6: Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven 187 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 6: nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. 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It's a direct 231 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 9: shot at all of the parents that have kids in 232 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 9: middle of high school that are paying all this money 233 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 9: for these quarterback coaches that are teaching their kids nothing 234 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 9: about how to play the quarterback position at a high level. 235 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 9: That's what this is about. There are so few quarterbacks 236 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 9: that the NFL thinks are capable of helping them actually 237 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 9: win a game that they went and got a guy 238 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 9: that's my age to by pass being eligible for the 239 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 9: Hall of Fame to come at and play well. 240 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 6: First of all, he wasn't getting in the Hall of 241 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 6: Fame on the first ballot anyway, So I like I 242 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 6: hear people say, oh, I can't believe he's doing that. 243 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 6: He's not a first ballot Hall of Famer. Okay, he 244 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 6: never won anything. But my disrespect to the game, though, 245 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 6: is the idea that you could put a forty four 246 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 6: year old guy who hasn't played in five years. That's 247 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 6: disrespectful to the game. That's the issue that I have. 248 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 9: No no Rob. First of all, you don't know he 249 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 9: wasn't gonna get in because you only have one vote. Secondly, 250 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 9: he wasn't getting in. But what it's the first of all, 251 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 9: it wouldn't be the first person that got in and 252 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 9: too them vote for No. 253 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 5: No, he wasn't getting in. I'm sorry you. 254 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 9: Can't definitively say that. But it's more a direct attack 255 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 9: of the evolution of the quarterback position, and so to 256 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 9: the Steph Curry has changed basketball, Patrick Mahomes has changed quarterback. 257 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: Son, why do you now, Son, why do you think 258 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: the quarterback? 259 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 7: Why do you think the quarterback position has changed so 260 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 7: much and so drastically that you need a fact that 261 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 7: these guys can't run and can't read coverages? 262 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: Now, what's going on with that? 263 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 9: So it has nothing to do with that component. It's 264 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 9: the fact that people have monetized training the best and 265 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 9: brightest and most talented quarterbacks in this country, and in 266 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 9: order to justify what they're getting, they mimic the Patrick 267 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 9: Mahomes top ten plays, the Josh Allen top ten plays, 268 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 9: mimick the Lamar Jackson top ten plays. What they don't 269 00:13:56,640 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 9: do is say, let's analyze Joe Burrow from the waist down, 270 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 9: from start to finish. They don't go back and say, 271 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 9: none of these guys that are training quarterbacks now utilize 272 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 9: Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. 273 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 6: Kilm Well, but doesn't the Peyton many have a quarterback 274 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 6: school or something. I thought they have a school for quarterbacks. 275 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 9: No, they've got like something that goes on in Louisiana 276 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 9: where they get like called the top college and high 277 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 9: school quarterbacks. But that's not like something that Peyton's actually 278 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 9: developing the kids. Those are kids that are already on 279 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 9: the radar if they get to come to a camp 280 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 9: and do something from the state of Louisiana. 281 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 6: We want to ask you about Joe Burrow. Sound like 282 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 6: somebody ready to retire. He's twenty nine, making a gazillion 283 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 6: dollars and not having fun play football. 284 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 5: That's what he said. What did you hear? 285 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 9: What I heard was I'm saying the head coach and 286 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 9: the GM are two individuals that I don't want to 287 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 9: be attached to moving forward. 288 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 5: But wait a minute, let me just push back. 289 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 6: He's the one who went out of his way to 290 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 6: push for the two receivers to get paid. 291 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 5: Okay, you need to be protected. What about the offensive line? 292 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 6: Now you want, you wanted your weapons, but there was 293 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 6: no money to take care of protecting you. Come on, man, 294 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 6: you're culpable. You can't act like it's just the front 295 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 6: office in them. Why did they need to sign both 296 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 6: of those guys and spend all that money on receivers 297 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 6: when you can't protect the quarterback. 298 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 5: Come on, Sean, I'm. 299 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 9: Glad you brought that up, Rob, because this is a 300 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 9: problem in sports overall. At some point, the adults in 301 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 9: the room have to actually adult. Yes, right, So I 302 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 9: don't care what Joe Burrow thinks, like if I'm a 303 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 9: GM of the Bengals, like what's best for us to 304 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 9: have a confetent football team, not football offense in college. 305 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 9: I'm not letting my players vote on if we're going 306 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 9: to a bowl game because I'm the adult in a room, 307 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 9: and I understand the bowl game is about two things, 308 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 9: about rewarding the seniors for everything that they put into 309 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 9: college football, understand that they may not ever play this 310 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 9: game again. And it's also an opportunity to forget me 311 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 9: to get my young players who are going to be 312 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 9: here next year from full contact eleven or eleven practice, 313 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 9: we're starting. So sometimes the adults in the room got 314 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 9: an adult and I feel like that's what's missing in 315 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 9: the game of football from top to bottom. The adults 316 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 9: are acquiescing to the younger individuals, whether they be teenagers, 317 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 9: whether they be college age kids, whether they be pros. Like, 318 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 9: at some point, adults got to start adulting. It's not 319 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 9: your it's not up to you. Like ro, when did 320 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 9: your parents have to ask you, well, what do you 321 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 9: think about this? 322 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 3: Never? 323 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 5: They never even asked me what did I want for dinner? 324 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 6: Or you know, like like this is dinner tonight, that's 325 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 6: what we're having exactly. 326 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, if the Bengals hire me, I would invite Joe 327 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 9: Burrow into the room and say, listen, and I think 328 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 9: you're a great quarterback. Is what we're gonna do. I 329 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 9: want you to trust me to be a great gym. 330 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, give me bright Like. 331 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 9: I'm just like, I'm gonna trust you to be a 332 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 9: great quarterback. I like that ask your opinion. I wanted. 333 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 9: If I don't ask your opinion, I don't need it 334 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 9: and I'm not gonna accept it. 335 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:14,239 Speaker 3: I like that. 336 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 7: I like that, Sean, let's talk about quarterbacks. We still 337 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 7: since you're here and what's going on with Lamar? Have 338 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 7: you checked out any of this tape recently? I mean 339 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 7: he hasn't hasn't been very accurate here in the last 340 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 7: since he's gotten back from injury. Have you looked at 341 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 7: anything or detected anything about his play here recently? 342 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 9: For the other but context, he's a two time MVT yep. 343 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 9: But he's never been an accurate quarterback. He's always gotten 344 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 9: away with it because he's been the best athlete on 345 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 9: the field, regardless of position. So the first time in 346 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 9: his career he's had sustained injuries, not incapable of playing, 347 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 9: but he's not the best athlete on the field. And 348 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 9: here's where it goes back to I don't think Lamar's 349 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 9: ever been really coached by coach, meaning like when we 350 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 9: come from practice, I don't care to win. Well, your 351 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 9: fundamentals were bad on nine or the ten completions, and 352 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 9: as we get older, you have to rely on fundamentals. 353 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 9: It's not about this talent. Because the talent starts to age, 354 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 9: it starts to diminish, and then what do you fall 355 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 9: back on. It's why Brady and Peyton won champion themselves 356 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 9: later in their career. 357 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 6: No, no, no, don't give me, don't get me paid, don't 358 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 6: give me Peyton. Payton had ninety eight yards, he had 359 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 6: an interception, and he didn't play well. 360 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 5: That was a defensive super Bowl. 361 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 9: We're talking about fundamentals. 362 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: I'm just saying it. 363 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 5: Don't act like he quarterbacked inmto a super Bowl. He 364 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 5: was the ten man in that game. We couldn't come on. 365 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 5: That was that was a parting gift. All right, let's 366 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 5: go here. 367 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 6: I want to talk about Patrick Mahomes speaking of aging 368 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 6: quarterbacks and how how bad. Well before the season started, 369 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 6: I said they wouldn't make the playoffs. Sean uh that 370 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 6: they play the Chargers. What do you got for me? 371 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 6: With the Chiefs six and seven? Just really bad games? 372 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 6: In that four touchdown game against the what was that 373 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 6: against Dallas that they lost, He's really been bad. He's 374 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 6: got three touchdowns I think, and six interceptions in the 375 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 6: other four games. So it's really really been a rough 376 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 6: patch for Patrick Mahomes. What do you see here? 377 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 9: First bat of Hall of Famer. 378 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 5: Well, we're not talking about we're not talking about their strength. 379 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 9: I can't talk if you go ahead, go ahead, first 380 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 9: first battle. Hall of famer. Not very good right now. 381 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 9: I'm let's say some Aaron Rodgers. But Aaron Rodgers is 382 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 9: age base. Patrick Mahomes a performance base. They got everybody healthy, 383 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 9: but you can't they they don't have talent like they 384 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 9: got they be worthy. Thank you Rice, like Hollywood Brown, 385 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 9: like Juju sus, mister Travis Kelsey like even if some 386 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 9: of those guys are out in their prime, they got 387 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 9: more guys than almost every other team in that's football league. 388 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 5: It is amazing happened. 389 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 9: What's happened is Patrick Mahomes and his pettiness change the 390 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 9: entire way the National Football League view contract on the quarterback. 391 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 9: They made a conscientious effort to say we're going to 392 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 9: protect the quarterback at all costs. And Patrick Mahomes kept 393 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 9: pushing the line. He kept pushing the line. I'm gonna, 394 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 9: you know, like I'm gonna go out of bounce and 395 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 9: get tim on y'all, like I'm gonna slide and run. 396 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 5: I hate it. 397 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 9: Now, guess what, everybody's on patching Mahomes and he's not performing. 398 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 9: So guess what. He's in no doubt Hall of famer, 399 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 9: but he's now playing for Mount Westnore. I think the truth. 400 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 9: Don't have emotions, is it's the truth? Right? Patrick Mahon's 401 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 9: not very good right now. Not saying he hasn't been 402 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 9: great up to this point in his career. Right now, 403 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 9: he's not very good. Watch the game. 404 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 6: No, I agree, and people and a lot of people 405 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 6: don't want to criticize him, and I get it because 406 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 6: of his resume. But we're talking about not a lifetime 407 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 6: achievement of what we're talking about. To hear and now, 408 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 6: thanks Sean, All good, my man, appreciate you. 409 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 5: Thank you. 410 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 9: Hey, before we leave the match, gotta be the dumbest 411 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 9: organiza in the world. Would you play one Soto and 412 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 9: then decide we're not going to keep the closer and 413 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 9: we'll let Peter Alzo walk. 414 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: All right, I'll see you guys later on Fox Sports 415 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 2: Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 416 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 2: Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com 417 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. 418 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 5: Rob Guh. Some executives have their thoughts about this as well. 419 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 5: NFL executives. 420 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 421 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 4: The Athletic did a good piece on Friday discussing Philip 422 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 4: Rivers upcoming. I guess debut you would call it with 423 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 4: Inneapolis Colts after five years, I would call it a day, both, 424 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 4: the renaissance, whatever you want to call it. They spoke 425 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 4: to nine anonymous coaches and executives to get their thoughts 426 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 4: in his return. Three of them said like, hey, let's 427 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 4: wait and see. They try to be optimistic. Six of 428 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 4: them said this is going to be a terrible. One 429 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 4: of them saying, quote, fun story, really fun story, but 430 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a disaster. Another execs says, 431 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 4: looking at their schedule, it's not gonna work. They have 432 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 4: a tough row with really good defenses. Philip is a 433 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 4: sitting duck, and Carrie, I'm with them. I think this 434 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 4: is terrible. This is so Indianapolis coach. 435 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 6: There's a reason that teams don't win, you know, like 436 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 6: they say, oh we're snake bit or we got bad luck, 437 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 6: or there are reasons that teams don't win. When they 438 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 6: hired Jeff's Saturday with no experience, seriously and they tried, 439 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 6: they were gonna be oh no, And then a lot 440 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 6: of players, former players, they all they who was it? 441 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 5: Bill Cower on CBS. I lost a lot for Bill. 442 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 3: I remember that. 443 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 6: First he condemned it because it and he should have 444 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 6: because it goes against all the people put into work 445 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 6: to be conscious or qualified for him to skip the 446 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 6: line because he was drinking buddies with the late owner 447 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 6: of the Colts. 448 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 5: Like he condemned it. 449 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 6: Then they won their first game, and then he went 450 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 6: on CBS and oh he beat. 451 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 5: The Raiders and he went, oh, yeah, I'm all over. 452 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 6: It's about being a leader, man, and you know, and 453 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 6: and all this stuff. And as you remember, the season 454 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 6: collapsed after that. It was awful. What was that game 455 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 6: where they were up by thirty points and they remember 456 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 6: that game? They lost that game, but but really really 457 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 6: bad And in this case, this is why the Colts 458 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 6: are bad. 459 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,719 Speaker 5: So they had this great start of season. 460 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 6: I get it, Danny Dimes whatever you want to call it, 461 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 6: Danny Pennies whatever. He was already you know, on his 462 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 6: way down as far as the style of play and 463 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 6: how well he was doing. But there's nobody else to quarterback. 464 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 6: You go get this is like a forty four year 465 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 6: old guy hadn't played in the league in five years, 466 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 6: and you're going to him out there with this hope 467 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 6: that he's going to be he's going to buck the trend. 468 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 6: He's going to bring you some magic juju. He's gonna 469 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 6: somehow turn this will be a disaster. I sat on 470 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 6: this very radio show with Mike Tyson for Jake Paul 471 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 6: and people, Rob g how many people called in? Right 472 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 6: you were you? You bought in? People just all bought in. 473 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 6: Oh my god, Mike, do you look see Mike Tyson 474 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 6: on the internet. Look at him. He's in great shape, dude. No, 475 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 6: he's a sixty year old man fighting at thirty year 476 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 6: old man. 477 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 3: Yes, let's not in. 478 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 6: The NFL the best players in their twenties and thirties. 479 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, this this is not gonna this is 480 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 7: not gonna end. Well, Rob, this guy is the same 481 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 7: He came out the same year I came out to college. 482 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 5: That's crazy. 483 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 7: And I'm sitting here with you and I look like 484 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 7: I'm in sape at least, right, And I know I 485 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 7: can't go out there and do it, and you and 486 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 7: you look like you're something like and I actually still 487 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 7: work out and I do that. When you look at 488 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 7: Philip Rivers, you know he does not do that. And 489 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 7: so for him and for the Colts to team up 490 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 7: and make this thing happen and give all us old 491 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 7: guys this hope that we can go out there and 492 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 7: do this. 493 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 3: It's just wrong. Now. 494 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 7: Am I hoping for the best for Phillip because I 495 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 7: know him, Yes I am, But there's no way he's 496 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 7: gonna save this Colt season in this scenario. And with 497 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 7: the teams they got to play down the stretch, right, 498 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 7: If they were playing some lesser competition again, that may 499 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 7: help as well, But they're playing the Texans, the forty 500 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 7: nine ers, the Seahawks, and all these teams are fighting 501 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 7: for playoff position. 502 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 6: They're gonna come out. Now, let me ask you, he's 503 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 6: gonna be a sitting duck. You're the defensive coordinator and 504 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 6: you have the game plan. Is it a jail break? 505 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 6: Are you going after him? Do you know what I mean? 506 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 5: Like? What do you do? 507 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 6: Are they the Colts going to just a steady Dothan 508 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 6: Taylor Jonathan Taylor like every down unless they have a 509 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 6: third down and they need a passing play or one. 510 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 7: Hundred percent if you from the Fox Sport, if you 511 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 7: think he's gonna go out there and dissect defenses in 512 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 7: day one and make every right read and be keen 513 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 7: and sharp enough up here to make that happen. Being 514 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 7: away from the game, you're fooling yourself. So they're gonna 515 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 7: have to be it's gonna have to be a steady 516 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 7: diet of Jonathan Taylor, right. But also he's gonna have 517 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 7: to make throws and he's coming against Seattle. 518 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: That happens, right, But. 519 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 7: They're throes that are gonna be needed needed. It's gonna 520 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 7: have to make some throws to win this game. And 521 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 7: they're not Listen again, I hope it works out, Rob, 522 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 7: I do. It's just not though, I don't know. 523 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 6: I just it's it's mind boggling to me from the 524 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 6: standpoint of these are multi million dollar organizations. They got 525 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 6: all of these people, you know how many coaches and 526 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 6: staff people. 527 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 3: Rob. I'm sorry, Rober. 528 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 7: You know the other thing about this though, they've put 529 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 7: all their eggs in the basket though, like they have 530 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 7: to win. And so when you put yourself in these 531 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 7: situations where there's not a want, it's a need to win. 532 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 7: You started out so great, you had all this all 533 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 7: this talk, all this buzz. You make the trades of 534 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 7: the Jets for sauce gardener, like you need to win. 535 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 3: Now, make that trade exactly. 536 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 7: I mean, seriously, I think sALS probably the bad luck 537 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 7: he came from the Jets, right, that's you're already probably 538 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 7: have done that, huh. 539 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 5: And they gave up two first round picks. 540 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 7: They gotta win, rob And when you were in that situation, 541 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 7: Christian Valerius, the GM, if this thing blows up in 542 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 7: their face and they, you know, lose the last four 543 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 7: or whatever, he doesn't play well and they need probably 544 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 7: need to part way, so they should fire him. 545 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,199 Speaker 3: Yes, you already mortgage the future. 546 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 5: Right, you've done all of that, even in the Danny Dimes. 547 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 6: I mean I get it, like, like, did you really 548 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 6: think there's too much bad tape on him out there? 549 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 5: You know, to really buy in? 550 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 6: And I know early on I looked at the schedule 551 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 6: they didn't play anybody, and I'm not I know, you 552 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 6: still gotta beat him to play and all that the 553 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 6: other stuff, But I do look at who you play 554 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 6: and who you beat and those kind of things, and 555 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 6: I'm just expecting bad. 556 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 7: I'm really expecting bad. But it's not even about who 557 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 7: you beat. It's about how you're playing, even when you're 558 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 7: losing or winning. In certain situations, It's about how you 559 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 7: plan if you're playing the right way, that that that 560 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 7: takes you, you know, that carries you out a little 561 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 7: bit more as well. Yeah, do they make the playoffs? No, 562 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 7: so you say they don't even make the playoffs. Oh, 563 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 7: they're done right now. They're gonna finish third in that division. 564 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 5: Wow. 565 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the Texans. I said, the Texans is 566 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 7: going to win the division now as they've turned the corner. 567 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 7: But Jacksonville is in first place. So I mean, it's 568 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 7: it's gonna be tough sledding for the Colts. 569 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's it is such a mess.