1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me will all about 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl drama, girl, all about. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 2: Them high school queens forever. We'll take you for a 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: ride and our comic. 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 3: Girl shared for the right teen. 6 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Drama queens, Jay's my girl, up girl fashion, but your 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: tough girl, you could sit with us. 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 3: Girl drama, Queen drama, Queens drama, Queens drama drama, Queens drama, Queens. 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 4: All right, gang, let's get into it. Season eight, episode eighteen, 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 4: Quiet Little Voices their date April nineteenth, twenty eleven. Synopsis reads, 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 4: The big day has finally arrived, and the gang gathers 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 4: at the hospital to await the birth of Haley and 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 4: Nathan's baby. While they wait, they reminisce about the memories 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 4: they shared over the years. Boy do they And it 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 4: was directed by mister sex Pylon himself, Austin Nichols. 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: I did not realize he directed this episode. 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't eat. 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: I really forgot, and I was watching it thinking who 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: directed this? 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: This is lovely? 21 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, he did such a great job. Oh 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: my gosh, there's so much to talk about with this episode. 23 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: I know that you're feeling a little. 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 3: Like you weren't given enough material, Rob, because it was 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: like a three day shoot for the entire episode. We 26 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: had no material, no new material. It was very little 27 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: and the rest of it was flashbacks. 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: But I actually, really. 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: I think the fans probably loved this episode because this 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: was obviously before streaming and so a chance to be 31 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 3: able to revisit all of these meaningful moments, and I 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: thought they were really expertly woven into the story and. 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: I loved it. 34 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 3: It made me really happy to watch all those old moments. 35 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: I loved it too. And the irony is well two things. 36 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: I thought it was really well done. I think Austin 37 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: did such a great job, yeah, truly weaving this moment 38 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: where we're all sort of frozen in time in the hospital, 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: with these stories that make these characters who they are. 40 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: I think the device of having Jamie asking all these 41 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: questions is great. And it dawned on me when we 42 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: first got on our zoom and you were like, well 43 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: the sixteen minutes of material in this episode from Rob, 44 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: I went, oh my god, it was I'm telling you. 45 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: Two minutes before the episode ended, by myself in my apartment, 46 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: I went Puerto Rico. I just like yelled it like 47 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: mad libs because I realized I realized we needed so 48 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: many extra days to go and shoot that episode. 49 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 2: Oh that's what it was. 50 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: Yes, and Joy, you had just had your actual baby. 51 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 3: Yes, so I was on my maternity leave. 52 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: And essentially they had to they had to save days 53 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: so the budget from this episode could both give you 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: time off and then the extra days could go on 55 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: the Puerto Rico episode to get everybody down there to 56 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: shoot that travel extravaganza. And it it. I couldn't figure 57 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: it out, and then I did, and I'm just then 58 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: I did I feel that I've solved a puzzle that 59 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: matters to no one, but it mattered to me. 60 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. And what Joy was saying earlier was I wasn't 61 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 4: upset about the amount of material Clay had in the episode. 62 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 4: I was joking before we started the podcast, saying we 63 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 4: have fourteen and a half minutes of actual new content 64 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 4: to discuss. 65 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 3: Oh, yes, sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you 66 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: seemed unhappy with your own amount of work. That was 67 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: not I knew what you meant, but yes, thank you 68 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 3: for clarifying for our listeners. 69 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 4: Sorry say so. A couple of things. One for our 70 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 4: fans that who aren't in the biz, A Bottle episode 71 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 4: is it's sort of an episode that you have to 72 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 4: catch up on the budget to save some money because 73 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: you've maybe overspent or maybe you have a big expenditure 74 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 4: coming up. So typically it'll be like a limited amount 75 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 4: of the cast or or all the cast, but in 76 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 4: like one location, so it's very easy to shoot. You 77 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 4: can shoot it quick. This is the This is the 78 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: MVP of Bodle episodes. I have never seen one done 79 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 4: better because not only is all of the cast in 80 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: one location, but genuinely forty to fifty percent of the 81 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 4: of the episode is flashbacks. I was watching this just going, 82 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 4: this is freaking genius. 83 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it managed to be good. It didn't feel 84 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: like it was hodgepodge together yes because they had to. 85 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: It actually felt really organic to the episode to me. 86 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. And I got to say, as someone who is 87 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 4: not familiar with the earlier seasons, I freaking loved it 88 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: because the first time I cut to a scene of 89 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 4: Nathan and Haley and I was like, oh my god, 90 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 4: they how did they make James look so young? And 91 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: it was, oh my gosh, no, this is actually just 92 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 4: ye baby, James and baby Joy, Like, yeah, it was that? 93 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 4: Was that your guys' first kiss? That a dare you to? 94 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 95 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 4: I was, dude, you were so good in that scene. Joy. 96 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 4: My main takeaway was for the age you were at 97 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: and what we were doing. I just thought like you 98 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 4: were so steady and like grounded in yourself and you 99 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 4: were doing almost nothing while doing so much. But I 100 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 4: was just I remember just thinking like wow, at that age, 101 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 4: Joy was really crushing it. 102 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 2: Thank you. I really appreciate that. 103 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: I have a I have a hard time watching myself, 104 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 3: particularly at that at that age, and couldn't you know, 105 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: I know, I notice all of the things about myself 106 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: that I don't like or didn't like, and it's hard 107 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: for me to just get past it and like watch 108 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: the scene and appreciate that. 109 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: So I take that to heart. Thank you. Yeah, it was. 110 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: It was. 111 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: It was fun to shoot all that stuff, but really 112 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: fun to watch James for me, in particular because he's 113 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: where he's grown, how he grew on the show as 114 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 3: an actor, as a human and as a character. Watching 115 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: all that play out, he was sort of the secret 116 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 3: star of the episode for me, just to see to 117 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 3: see that journey, even I love that they showed the 118 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 3: super vulnerable moment that he had with her in her bedroom, 119 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: coming in after the game and just saying like, I 120 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 3: need you, I just need a hug, I need to 121 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 3: be I need your comfort. It was so rich for 122 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: a high school for a high schooler to do that 123 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 3: high school boy, and for a young couple to understand 124 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: each other on that level. It was just really such 125 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 3: a nice reminder of where they've come from. 126 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's especially nice to see that growth, and 127 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: I like that it's as impactful for us who essentially, 128 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: like the viewers, have seen all of it, and Rob, 129 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: you're like a newer viewer in a way, you know, 130 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: you got to see things you didn't know. And when 131 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: you think about it in the story arc, in terms 132 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: of all of us really thinking that when we wrapped 133 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: season eight, we would be wrapping the show. Yeah, it's 134 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: such a great device to remind you of how far 135 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: these characters have come. I think particularly the flashback devices 136 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: with Nathan, because James was actually so young. Not only 137 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: has his character come so far, but James just as 138 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: a man looks so different in season eight than he 139 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: did in season one, and so in a really interesting way, 140 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: like the evolution of his character, but also him growing 141 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: out of that teenage boy youth really marks time for 142 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: us as viewers in the flashback in a way like, look, 143 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: I thought all the rest of ours were great. I 144 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: love being reminded of the moment with Haley and Quinn. 145 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: I love going back to naming you Brook, like all 146 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: of it is so sweet to see. 147 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 4: But I. 148 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: Think it becomes doubly effective as a device in a 149 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: way just because of where we found ourselves in the 150 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: trajectory of James's life. Yea, it's really cool. And to 151 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: see him then be this very still father figure who's 152 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: not doing a lot, who's just reflecting and sort of 153 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: explaining that to a child. It's really special and it 154 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: does give you that sort of I don't know, it 155 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: has like nostalgia that made me feel ready for the end, 156 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: even though we wound up getting this bonus of our 157 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: ninth season. 158 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: Well, it connects. 159 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: It connects the audience by reminding them of everything they've 160 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: been through with the characters without them having to think 161 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: too hard about it. 162 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 5: Just it. 163 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 3: It creates the same moment as looking through a scrap 164 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 3: book and seeing, you know, here's of old friends and 165 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: it doesn't take a lot. You don't have to live through, 166 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: relive through all of the moments that you had. You 167 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: just need these snapshot moments and then you look up 168 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 3: at the person in front of you, seeing how they've 169 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 3: aged and grown, and it immediately endears you and you 170 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 3: feel the sense of loyalty. Like I think it was 171 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 3: so smart because it created such a bonding experience for 172 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: the audience subconsciously, I think. 173 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 4: And it was so funny to that point that we're 174 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: seeing all of these flashbacks where it's like baby Brook, 175 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 4: baby Hailey, baby Nathan, and then we have a flashback 176 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 4: with Haley and Quinn and it's like Quinn from six 177 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 4: months ago. 178 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: And yet there was still a hair parade like every 179 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: all the different colors, all the different cuts, all the 180 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 3: different everything, like the fact that Quinn was a brunette 181 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: when she started on the show, and yeah, it was 182 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: only you know, six months prior or whatever, a year 183 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 3: or so, and how much that's changed. It still kept 184 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: the uh, it kept the nostalgia going. 185 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 186 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 4: But yeah, the James of it all was was awesome 187 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 4: because you really do see how much he grew as 188 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 4: an individual, and alongside the character of Nathan. Yeah, that 189 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 4: was great, And like I said, it was fun for 190 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 4: me because it was all stuff I had never seen, 191 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: so it was like, wait, that's how Haley and Brook met. 192 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: Wait what It made me very interested to, like, I 193 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 4: gotta I gotta go back and see where this all started. 194 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so sweet. 195 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: I love seeing so much of this through Jamie's eyes too, 196 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: and just the that was a nice kind of mirror 197 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: effect that you are watching all these old memories, but 198 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 3: you're also seeing everything through the new, young perspective of 199 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 3: coming into the world. All of his narration was really 200 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 3: sweet and funny. 201 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was sweet that they The episode was 202 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 4: bookended by Haley than giving the same voiceover about you know, 203 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 4: babies are God's way of saying He's not given up 204 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 4: on us yet, or something to that effect. Yeah. Sweet, 205 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 4: nice sentiment. And I love that we got to see 206 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 4: the myth of the nursery room window viewing window as 207 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 4: well as I mean, are the eighteen hundreds with the 208 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 4: delivery room that has stadium seating above it with a window. 209 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 1: It's so weird. It's the same by the way, it's 210 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: the same window when Peyton drops after the Peyton and 211 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: Lucas wedding, and then all of us appear like ghosts 212 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: out of mist. There's just more and more of us 213 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: up in that viewing room, and it's. 214 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: Like this operating window. 215 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: It is simply not allowed. It is not allowed for 216 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: civilians to be in there. There might be an operating 217 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: theater at a teaching hospital. But let me tell you something. 218 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: When my very best friend on Earth had to have 219 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: emergency knee surgery, and I tried to convince the surgeons 220 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: at and Yu Hospital to let me scrub in and observe, 221 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: and they said, ma'am, go sit down, And I said, 222 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: then let me sit in an operating theater. There has 223 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: to be there has to be an operating room with 224 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: a theater here. This is a teaching hospital. They were like, ma'am, 225 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: get out, just get out, like we will. We are 226 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: going to removee. Neil woke up from surgery and was like, 227 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: you crazy bitch, because I was sleeping in a chair 228 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: next to her bed, and the nurse was like, we 229 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: tried to make her leave. We just eventually we gave up. 230 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: And I am telling you from personal experience, I know 231 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: that there is no human they are going to let 232 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: observe a surgery, a delivery, no matter what medical terminology 233 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: you know from at one point or and they're playing 234 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: a doctor, they don't care, and a surgery. 235 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 3: Would be the most life A delivery. Yeah, are you 236 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: sing kidding me? 237 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: No? 238 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 3: Hap to the oh in a room that's covered in tile. 239 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: By the way, when have you ever given birth in 240 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: a room that's covered in time? 241 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: By the way, it looks like we're at the morgue. 242 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: It looks like ten years ago we built a step 243 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: for a morgue and they were like, we don't just 244 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: be cheaper to reuse that. It's so creepy. 245 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: Also so weird that the guy comes in, the dad 246 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: comes in, He's like, oh, I'm the baby's father, and 247 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 3: never goes who are you guys? 248 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. Also the fact that that means that literally just 249 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 4: anyone could just happen to stroll in and watch someone 250 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 4: give birth. 251 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: Yes, because by the way, Chloe is supposed to not 252 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: know he's there because she thinks she's been abandoned. The 253 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: whole thing is that he doesn't alone she's having a baby. 254 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: She took a year abroad. I think she said. 255 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 4: I was like, so she told her parents. I think, yeah, that's. 256 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. So she has this whole concocted story 257 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: keeping this a secret, and then he shows up unbeknownst 258 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: to her. But it hangs out with Julian all night, 259 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: Like what I mean, hats off to that actor and 260 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: hats off to Austin because they made it work. You know, 261 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: they took this insane scenario off the page and they 262 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: made it really heartfelt. And I thought that that young 263 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: man did such a good job playing so lost and 264 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: so unsure of what he was doing and so overwhelmed. 265 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: And I liked getting to see in the same way 266 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: that you see Brooke be maternal with Chloe, helping her 267 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: through this. I liked getting to see Julian do that, 268 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: even for this person that he thought was a stranger 269 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: in the hallway. It's a very sweet moment for them, 270 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: and it made the surprise quite a reveal. But my god, 271 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: it is so hard for me to get past the 272 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: shenanigans of the theater and enjoy the episode because I'm like, 273 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: this is so silly. Kind of takes me out. 274 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: That little bit that was a rough one. 275 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: I actually wonder for our friends at home. I really 276 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: am curious. I wish we could take callers on this show, 277 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: because I'd love to know if it just drives us 278 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: crazy as actors who are very used to you know, sets, 279 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: and what feels like jumping the shark or is the 280 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: audience also like, no, this is absolutely ridiculous. We feel 281 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: the same way. So if anyone wants to write in, 282 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: I would love. 283 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: To know comment on this gang because you don't have 284 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 4: to be in entertainment to go. That doesn't exist in hospitals, right, 285 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 4: Like it's not inside baseball. That's just anyone who's ever 286 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 4: been in a hospitals like what? Also, no other show 287 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 4: is even doing that because again, it doesn't exist, not real. 288 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 4: It's the strangest thing. But speaking of really good performances, 289 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 4: and just to jump ahead, a bit Levin has this 290 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: incredible moment when Brooke and Julian walk into the room 291 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 4: and the baby is born. There is the moment where 292 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 4: you can tell everything has changed for her. She wordlessly, 293 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 4: just with her eyes. You can see her say like 294 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, no it's not yet, everything's changed. 295 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 3: And you see it in your eyes, Sophia, like the 296 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: shift that you receive. 297 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 4: That Yes, it was such a powerful moment. The storytelling 298 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 4: happening between Chloe and Brooke was, and then. 299 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: Julian realizing it too and turning to Brooke. I mean 300 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: that moment I was. I actually I don't cry a 301 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: lot watching our show because I just feel kind of 302 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: removed from it, and but it's also so familiar that 303 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: I know a lot of it already, and I cried. 304 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: I just sat there and was like, my heart broke. 305 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 2: That was rough. Yeah, it's heavy, and. 306 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: You guys performances were so beautiful. Yeah, that's what made 307 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 3: me so happy about Austin as a director that he. 308 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: Was like, who directed this? 309 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: Who allowed the actors to sit there and do their 310 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: work quietly? God bless whoever allowed the actors to do this, 311 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: because it's not common on our show. 312 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: And then it was just so sad and painful, and 313 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 4: it was such a great shot where it was like 314 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 4: it was sort of over everyone waiting for the news 315 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 4: about Haley to in the background Brooke and Julian who 316 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 4: were obviously super upset, and then you guys having to 317 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 4: pull it together and then walk over with the secret 318 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 4: which is like you are crying because your heart is broken, 319 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 4: not because of this. 320 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: Oh oh you did that so well, Sophie. Oh my god, speaking. 321 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so devastating. And it's really interesting because I 322 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 1: remember how impactful it felt for all of us at 323 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: the time, you know, particularly just existing in a world 324 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: where you read about people's stories. You know what people 325 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: go through, you know, trying to build their families and 326 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: all of these things. And it's crazy how how well 327 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: I think it played. And I remember it feeling special 328 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: then and now, like just by a nature of living longer, 329 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,239 Speaker 1: you know, by nature of all of us being in 330 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: this phase of our lives. It's like it's even heavier 331 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: to me. And it's just there's there's elements of it that, 332 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, the overarching story that I think we probably 333 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: could have done a bit better with. You know, some 334 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: of it feels a little talking point y, But my god, 335 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: I was like, whoof this hits me even harder now, 336 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: just all the things we've seen. 337 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 3: I'm just so glad it wasn't It wasn't talked to death. 338 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 3: There wasn't a page of explanation. It wasn't me too, Like, 339 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: it just wasn't overdone. The simplicity of a broken heart 340 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 3: doesn't require a ton of explanation. I everybody knows what 341 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 3: that feels like. And you just need to see the 342 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: exchange between the artists. 343 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, emotion and. 344 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: I think too, you know, to your point about the 345 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: way it was directed, us being allowed to be in 346 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: it and instead of you know, doing the fast pushing 347 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: or whatever, everything just crept up on you. You know, 348 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: the camera moved in slowly and you start to wonder 349 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: is it slow motion or is it what's really happening? 350 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: And it's just what's really happening. But everyone is having 351 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: it hit them in that way where it feels like 352 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: time slows down. 353 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it wasn't just that moment. It was the 354 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: whole episode, like the whole storyline. I should say, in particular, 355 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 3: because Austin was great about giving the appropriate tone per 356 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: scene depending on the storyline. But for you guys, when 357 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 3: Levin is in the bed and she keeps saying I 358 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 3: just couldn't do it alone. I couldn't do it alone, 359 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: he lingers on you just a little too long, and 360 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,239 Speaker 3: it gives the audience the information they need, Like that 361 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 3: is kind of an interesting thing to say, is that 362 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: the only reason you're going to give up your child 363 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: because you're afraid you can't handle it on your own. 364 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 2: And then you start wondering is that. 365 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 3: It is Brooke going to say, hey, if that's the 366 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 3: only reason, like you are strong, you are that. I 367 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 3: don't know if that's really the reason that you should, like, 368 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 3: if there's a whole lifestyle, if you know, there's so 369 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: many factors, But if it's just that you're afraid you 370 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 3: can't handle it, it just puts Brooke in such an 371 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 3: awkward position. And I feel like I could read all 372 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: of it on your mind in that moment. And then 373 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 3: we cut away to something else, but it was it 374 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 3: was a foreshadowing that there's something else coming. 375 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 2: No heartbreaking. 376 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 4: I love in the There was an earlier scene with 377 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 4: Nathan Haley. It's when when you're going Haley's going through 378 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 4: contractions and and you're like, just just tell me a story, 379 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: and he's like, I'm I'm blanking and she's like, just 380 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: You're like, just tell me any story in the history 381 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 4: of the world. 382 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 2: He's like about three little pigs. I don't know why. 383 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was so good man. And then the other 384 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 4: funny contraction moment that made me laugh was and and listen, 385 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 4: there's a there's a there's a lot of ways in 386 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 4: which this could just could happen. But in the moment, 387 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 4: I went, ok, this was written by a dude. When 388 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 4: Levin is on the bed and Brooke is there and 389 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 4: she's like, she goes she's obviously having a contraction, but 390 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 4: she goes, ooh contraction, And I was like, you know what, 391 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 4: I uh, could you imagine like in a war movie 392 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 4: if someone gets shot and they fell down the battlefield 393 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 4: and they were like, oh, good shot. 394 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: Like never, It's like. 395 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 4: You know again, I'm like, it doesn't take me out 396 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 4: of the scene. But I laughed, going like I've been 397 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 4: two deliveries with my wife and I never once heard 398 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 4: her go ooh contraction. It's like everyone knows why every yeah. 399 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, And isn't it ironic that we were allowed 400 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: to allow so much We were allowed to have so 401 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: much of the communication in this episode be without words, 402 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: and then literally the most obvious word is written as 403 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: dialogue for an actor to perform. 404 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, Hi, have you ever have you seen or heard? 405 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 4: Have you heard the story about Kevin Sorbo he played Hercules? 406 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 4: There's a clip. Everyone should do this, do yourself a favor. Everyone, 407 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 4: Oh boy, go on YouTube and uh just search Hercules. Disappointed. 408 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 4: So what happened was apparently there was in the script 409 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 4: there was a line he was supposed to deliver, and 410 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 4: then they had, like they do often scripts in parentheses, 411 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 4: a word to sort of a case the actor doesn't know, 412 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 4: like the tone of it, and the word was disappointed. 413 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 3: No. 414 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 4: Watch the clip because old Kevin sorbo no. He's like, 415 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 4: I don't recognize this world anymore and he takes a 416 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 4: dramatic pause and he just goes dear saw boy Dad 417 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 4: stayed in the episode. This was like that where it's 418 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 4: like they were like, we don't want to just to 419 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 4: say oh and not no, so let's put in parenthes. 420 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 4: It's a contraction. It was like that moment, Oh contraction, 421 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 4: Oh my. 422 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: God, that's great. 423 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 4: That's hilarious. 424 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 2: You know he was screwing around. He had to have been. 425 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 4: She was, that's hilarious. And also like, it's even more 426 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 4: funny that the editor and the producers were like, let's 427 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: just keep it. 428 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 5: Believe it. 429 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, he owes me money, keep it in. There was 430 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 4: a lot of fun in this episode. I again I 431 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: saw the writers writing to Rob as opposed to Clay. 432 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 4: When we get to the we get to the hospital, 433 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, I got snacks. I got this, I got comics. 434 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: There's something, and then Jamie goes, oh you got comics. 435 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: And Clay goes it was my favorite Rob. 436 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 4: They're called graphic novels. 437 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah no, you said there that you said graphic novels, 438 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 3: but you said it like you were so disappointed in him. 439 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 2: So I made it so. 440 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 4: Great because this was a struggle in my personal life 441 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 4: because I read a lot of comics, and I had 442 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 4: to be like, I read graphic novels because at the 443 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 4: time I was turning thirty, and it felt just a 444 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 4: little bit weird to say, like I like comics, you know. 445 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: Made you feel like you still had your head gear on. 446 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, like exactly. It felt like a bit more 447 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 4: of a grown up when I called them graphic novels, 448 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 4: when let's be honest, it's just a couple comics glued together. 449 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: It's so great. 450 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 2: I loved that. 451 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 3: I loved just giving you some quips with Quinn too 452 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: about Uno in the Game of Chance and all of 453 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: your little banter. That was really fun. It felt so natural. 454 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 3: I loved that the saltine stuff was so great. Every 455 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 3: line you said was just NonStop spittle, like a mouthful 456 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 3: of powder. 457 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: It's so great. Yeah, it's fun. 458 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 3: I wonder how many people went to their cupboard and 459 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 3: got saltines out after the episode and sat with their 460 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 3: friends and tried to do this. 461 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 5: Well. 462 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: This was one of the early challenges because by now 463 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: we were on social media. I don't think Instagram existed yet, 464 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: or maybe it had just started. But remember we all 465 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: we just started to get on Twitter around twenty ten, 466 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: and I remember it was the saltine challenge was going around, 467 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: and it's ironic that we couldn't say that in the 468 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: episode because then we would have had to pay I 469 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: don't know whatever that company is, Nabisco or whatever, because 470 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: saltine is a brand. So you had to be like, 471 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: do you know you can't eat six crackers in under 472 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: a minute? Because it was the saltine challenge. 473 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 2: That's oh right, crackers. 474 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 4: Also fun fact, So do you know that you are 475 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 4: the person who signed me up for Twitter? That tracks 476 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 4: you were on it. I didn't know what it was. 477 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 4: I was obviously on the show, and you're like, oh, yeah, 478 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: you got to get in this thing, and you like 479 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 4: actually helped me set up my account and then immediately 480 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 4: like followed me and tweeted out like Robs on Twitter 481 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 4: on Twitter and I got a jillion followers and was like, 482 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 4: what the hell just happened? So you are the one 483 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 4: who held my hand into the world of social media, 484 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 4: so thank you and also shame on you. 485 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,239 Speaker 3: Well, I think you were the first one on our 486 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: show to have it, or you were like right on 487 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 3: top of that. 488 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: I was, well, first of all, rub You're welcome, an 489 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Second, I was really and here's the irony, right, Like, 490 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: there's nothing I like to watch more online than videos 491 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: of people cooking. But I remember when Twitter first started, 492 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: I was like, who gives a shit what anyone's eating 493 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: for breakfast? Lame turns out me I do. I give 494 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: in a major way. But at the time I was like, 495 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: this feels so stupid. And then when Deepwater Horizon happened, 496 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: and I, you know, had been working with all these 497 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: incredible climate lawyers and activists who were all based in 498 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: the South, like my friends in New Orleans, were like, 499 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: we went to golf shores and they are not telling 500 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 1: the truth about this disaster on the internet or on 501 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: the news. And I was like, well, we have the internet, 502 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: so maybe we should just do it. And Austin and 503 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: I flew down there with all the people from Global 504 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: Green and like essentially live streamed what was happening with 505 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: like our friends, you know, fishermen and all these amazing 506 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: people down in Louisiana who were like, we need help here. 507 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: This is an ecological disaster. And it's so crazy to 508 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 1: me to realize, like we had no idea what we 509 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: were doing with social media. We just were like, well, 510 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 1: this feels like a pretty good way to get information 511 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 1: out that people can't censor. 512 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 4: Hello, and now used to be fun. Remember it used 513 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 4: to be. 514 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: Just like a place. It wasn't necessarily a weaponized cesspool. 515 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: But that's really I'm sorry, comes in rob that You're welcome. 516 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: Was when it was cute and fun and we could 517 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: joke about snacks. 518 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 4: It started off as the peach Pit, and it quickly 519 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 4: devolved into that underground fight club in fight Club. 520 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, now it's just the Hunger Games, But at the 521 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: time it was adorable and I do recall how excited 522 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 1: we were about some of those early challenges and it 523 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,120 Speaker 1: made it into an episode though you know, we had 524 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: to lie about the said crackers. 525 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 3: Were either of you either, did either of you ever 526 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 3: accomplish this task? 527 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 2: Like is it. Is it accomplishable? It's not doable. 528 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: Apparently. The issue is I suppose you could cheat and 529 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: like swig some water right before, but saltines are so 530 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: dry that you run out of saliva, like your mouth 531 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: can't make it fast enough. 532 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 4: I say this all the time because people ask like 533 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 4: my favorite scene, and this is one of them. Every 534 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 4: single take, I went full tilt, full tilt, Bookie. I 535 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 4: was trying to do it. It wasn't a bit When 536 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 4: you see me spinning out crackers, that's because I had 537 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 4: a mouthful crackers. Like that was me really committing. And 538 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 4: I take food challenges very seriously. I did not even 539 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 4: come close. No, it is so deceptively hard. 540 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: Wow will it work? 541 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 3: We think with rits or like something else or really 542 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 3: we know wheat thins. 543 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: It really has to be salted. 544 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 4: Wee thing for sure. A week and you're fine because 545 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 4: the saltea is just it's just it's salt and basically 546 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 4: it just SUPs up anything liquid or liquid adjacent immediately. 547 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's dry, especially because I think it's made 548 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: to be that way for soup. A trisc it now 549 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: has a nice oil base and you could probably get 550 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: six triskts down triskits with all that wheat the way, 551 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: I think much more likely than a saltine. 552 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: I feel like we need to try this. 553 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 4: Our next episode should just be us eating seeing comedy 554 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 4: snack foods we can eat six of under a minute. 555 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: Also, I actually think we should just do this at 556 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: the next convention line everybody up at a table and 557 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: see what happens. And it's like maybe every I don't know. 558 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: Every two hours we come back for another cracker, which undoable. 559 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, this is such a good idea. Are 560 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 4: you are you listening Friends with Benefits? This is your 561 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 4: next activity, Ray, get on it, let's go. That scene 562 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 4: was so much fun. The banter with clan Quinn was 563 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 4: so much fun. I love that we've now got to 564 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 4: see them be light and silly two episodes in a row. 565 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 4: So I think, at least for me, that's when claan 566 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: Quinn shine the most. 567 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: You know, yes, for. 568 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 3: Sure, you've finally just got to be happy. 569 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 570 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's nice to see the ease and the humor 571 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: with you guys, and you know, even just her running 572 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: around the hospital snapping photos. It's like you remember that 573 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: this is a joyous time and it does feel like 574 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: for you too, especially kind of a breath of fresh Yeah. 575 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 4: Well, because yet we had like two episodes of sort 576 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 4: of fun stuff and then it was just right into 577 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 4: like so much admire for a season. Hey, what's the 578 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 4: Is there any backstory to why Nathan collapsed during the game? 579 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he was taking performance enhancing drugs in high. 580 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 4: School, so Dan was lying when the doctor was asking 581 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 4: him questions, and Dan Dan was being all self righteous he. 582 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: Knew I think Dan knew, yeah, and he was like 583 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: trying to get the doctor throw him off the trail 584 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: because he didn't want that on his record. 585 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 5: Oh interesting, Yeah, but I don't remember that moment of 586 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 5: him like stroking Nathan's forehead with his knuckles before he 587 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 5: woke up. 588 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 3: And just being all sweet and fatherly and look on 589 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 3: James's face is so great, like why are you being 590 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: so nice? 591 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 592 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 4: Hurry ah. 593 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 1: It registered for me almost like going, am I dreaming? 594 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 595 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: You know what is going on here? It was nice 596 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: to see those shifts. I mean, Dan is Dan, but 597 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: even to see him a bit out of character to 598 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: be reminded of when Victoria really shifts. 599 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it. 600 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: I remember being so moved by watching that moment in 601 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: season six, but seeing it again, I couldn't help but think, Wow, 602 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: it's really rare that we see an adult admit to 603 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: their adult child. I was wrong. This is the lesson 604 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: that I've learned. I wish I'd learned it sooner, and 605 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. Something about just seeing that in a 606 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: flashback really hit me. I love that they gave that 607 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: to Victoria. 608 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 4: Was that seen from season six? Hawd You have been right, 609 00:31:55,440 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 4: because it felt like that was Victoria changing, But I 610 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 4: hadn't seen that, which means it had to have been 611 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 4: you know, I know she wasn't anything like that seasons whatever, 612 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 4: you know, one through five or whenever she came in. 613 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's nearing the end of season six because 614 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: she encourages Brooke to go after Julian, and then it's 615 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: the end of the season when she goes to his 616 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: set and you know, admits that she's gonna that she 617 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: does love him and that she's going to let herself. 618 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: So it's it's kind of special to see the revelation again, 619 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: even though we've seen it. You know, it's been two years, 620 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: you forget, and it's it was cool for that to 621 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: kind of be a button. I liked that moment between them, 622 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: as Brooke is trying to imagine, you know, what a 623 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: different kind of parent shall be, what she will do 624 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 1: Differently thought it was really effective. 625 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 3: Because they had so many scenes to choose from. I 626 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: mean there were there were a lot of scenes where 627 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: Victoria had changed and was being more generous or kind, 628 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 3: and I really liked that they did choose that one, 629 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 3: and the flashback of the connection point between that and 630 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 3: Brooke talking about exactly what you're saying, the kind of 631 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 3: method that she wants to be. It was a really 632 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 3: it was kind of a perfect one for them to choose. 633 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 3: I think there were a lot of those mirroring moments. 634 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 4: What was the incident what happened to Haley that put 635 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 4: her in the hospital when Nathan was so worried about her? 636 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 3: I got hit by a car because Nathan was doing 637 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 3: he was always performing in performance enhancing drugs, and then 638 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: he got involved with a bookie and then look at 639 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: Rob's face. Yeah, and then Rick Fox hit me with his. 640 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 4: Car stop it no no freaking way. 641 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, meaning to hit Nathan, but winds up 642 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: hitting Haley and she's pregnant. 643 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 2: And she's pregnant. That's right, I was pregnant, and he. 644 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: Wants to hit Nathan because Nathan didn't throw the Ravens 645 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: game and Rick Fox and his his his crew were 646 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: betting on it. 647 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's incredible. 648 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: So welcome to another storyline that would have had us 649 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: landed on the soup. I probably did. 650 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: I'm sure it did. 651 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 4: What's so hold on? 652 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 3: What? 653 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 4: Like, what were the side effects of these performance enhancing drugs? 654 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 4: Because this is like it made him cramp, It made 655 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 4: him so dehydrated he passed out, which what? Okay? 656 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 2: And aggressive? 657 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 4: He was like a roid Ragi type thing. 658 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: I think it was very It was like a you know, 659 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: speedy I don't know, like some kind of upper right 660 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: that just made him unstoppable. 661 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 4: Okay, he found some old fen Finn. That's a reference 662 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,280 Speaker 4: that two percent of our audience wonderstand. That was a 663 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 4: a diet drug that was very hot for a minute 664 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 4: in the what late eighties early nineties, and then whoops, 665 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 4: see doozles discovered it was killing people and they quickly 666 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 4: took it off the market. Thanks gosh, did I just 667 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 4: bring the podcast to a screeching hole by reconcing failed 668 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 4: medication from the late eighties. That not why everyone tuned 669 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 4: in today. My bad. 670 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,959 Speaker 1: I'm also laughing because we are never short on things 671 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: to talk about. And I'm looking at the clock and 672 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, I mean, we've talked about the entire episode. 673 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 4: Bags like my notes, app, I got nothing I have 674 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 4: to same. 675 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, we went through them all. It's the shortest 676 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,799 Speaker 1: amount of notes I've ever taken on an episode. And 677 00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. 678 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 4: We'll let's do our listener question because conversation to us listener. 679 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 3: Question is is we don't know who it's from, but 680 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 3: hello to you. Haley tells Jamie he's not allowed to 681 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 3: have a baby in high school. But what is something 682 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 3: you did in your life that you wouldn't want your 683 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 3: kids repeating? Oh, fun, fun question, friend. Quite a few 684 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 3: things and a superb super. 685 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 2: Don't want my daughter to join a cult? 686 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, good luck following that answer either of us. 687 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: There's just so many things. 688 00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 3: That is truly one of the if you can get 689 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 3: over yourself, it's one of the joys of parenting, the 690 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 3: opportunity to release the shame by continually talking about what 691 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 3: an idiot you were and how you can prevent your 692 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 3: child friendly how what you've learned, and and just being 693 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 3: able to be honest with them about it instead of 694 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 3: tiding it like previous generations used to do just culturally, 695 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 3: like hide all the things. Yeah, it's a real pleasure, 696 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 3: And now I have to say absolutely. 697 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: And I also think there's something. I don't know if 698 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: you guys feel this way, but I know I certainly do. 699 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: I've really noticed it in my life in the last 700 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: two years, where to your point, I'm not embarrassed by 701 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: anything anymore, right, I'm like, if anything, this is just 702 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: pure comedic fodder, like the insane things that have happened 703 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: in my our lives. You have to laugh. And then 704 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: when you realize, you just find your own past and 705 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: your own embarrassing things. Laundry lists so funny, you're like, 706 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 1: oh cool, yeah. 707 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 4: Wow, Yeah. I would say suffering in silence and oh 708 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 4: and playing small, because those two cost me a lot 709 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 4: a lot. Playing small cost me a lot emotionally and 710 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 4: in terms of growth and figuring out who I actually was, 711 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 4: and suffering in silence just brought a ton of pain 712 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 4: and time that was consumed when if I had known 713 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 4: to ask for help, and then it was Okay to 714 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 4: ask for help, I would, yeah, save myself a lot 715 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 4: of tough seasons. 716 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel that too. Thank you for that. 717 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people can relate to that. 718 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 1: And Rob, I think that's a big part of it too, Right, 719 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: is like if you really follow the trajectory of maybe 720 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: some of the things we wouldn't wish on our kids, 721 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: I think that's where they start very often, is when 722 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: you suffer something in silence, when you're trying to be 723 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: mature or sort of prove that you can handle it, 724 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: or you feel a little ashamed to admit you need 725 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: some help with something. Yeah, that's kind of how the 726 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: train leaves the station, and then by the time you 727 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 1: realize you want to get off, it's like speeding through 728 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: the mountains. I don't know why. Suddenly I've turned this 729 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: into like the Bucky scene and you know, the Marvel universe, 730 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: but you know what I'm talking about. It's like, oh God, 731 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: I can't get off now. 732 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 733 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: And I think to teach our children or encourage even 734 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: in ourselves at this stage, a quickness to be as 735 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,239 Speaker 1: honest as you need to be so that you can 736 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: have more emotional resilience is really special. 737 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 738 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so hard to do because it's not so 739 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 3: easy because it's not always just about I just have 740 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 3: to feel my emotion. There's other people involved, and you're 741 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 3: trying to sometimes protect a relationship or the possibility of 742 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 3: maybe it's me and I just haven't figured out what 743 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 3: my problem is, and I'm subconsciously I'm like, maybe I'm 744 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 3: blaming the other person, but it's actually my problem, and 745 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 3: I want to solve that before I go complain about 746 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 3: this person to somebody else. And I certainly don't want 747 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 3: to start triangulating things. And so I'm just going to 748 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 3: keep everything to myself until I figure it out on 749 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 3: my own. And it's just not how we're wired. We're 750 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 3: wired for community. 751 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think growing up, you also you only 752 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 4: know what you're exposed to to. 753 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. 754 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 4: And I had a dad who went to Vietnam when 755 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 4: he was eighteen. There was no language of the heart really, 756 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 4: you know, to speak of, and so I wasn't modeled 757 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 4: for me like asking for help or sharing about struggles. 758 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 4: So and that's through no fault of his because he 759 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 4: wasn't exposed to it either, you know. But it's it's 760 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,439 Speaker 4: changing now. But like That's why I sort of didn't 761 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 4: know because it was like, oh, it's an in house job. 762 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 4: I got this was like the mantra, it's okay, I 763 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 4: got this, you know. And it's like, turns out I 764 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 4: didn't have this, and I had a therapist. He gave 765 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 4: me a great line. He said, tell the truth and 766 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 4: tell it faster. And I love that, right, because it's 767 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 4: like that applies to everything, whether it's like I'm struggling 768 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 4: or like, hey, what you're doing is not okay with me. 769 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 4: But it's like I had such a hard time telling 770 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,800 Speaker 4: my truth in the past because it would be like 771 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 4: is this going to upset them? Is it going to 772 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 4: rock the boat? Okay, I'll just I'll hedge it. I'll 773 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 4: only say half of it, but I'll make it a joke. Yeah, 774 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 4: you know, And it's like, naw, dude, just tell the 775 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 4: truth and tell it faster. 776 00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 777 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 3: We spend a lot of time performing just for that 778 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 3: to keep the peace or to protect our egos, and 779 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 3: we're worried about feeling insecure or being seen in a 780 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 3: certain way or being misunderstood from what our heart actually is. 781 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 2: And I it's to. 782 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 3: Feel like you're constantly performing that way but then how 783 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 3: can I ever actually grow if I'm not just being 784 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,919 Speaker 3: honest and saying the truth and saying it faster. Even 785 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 3: if the truth is ugly, Hopefully there's good enough friends 786 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 3: around to go ooh, that was ugly, and then you 787 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 3: can deal with it and grow. But if you're never 788 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 3: exposing those parts of yourself and you don't ever have 789 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 3: safe people around to do that with, how are you 790 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 3: actually supposed to grow? 791 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 4: And if you are constantly curating other people's experience of you, 792 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 4: you are never giving anyone else a chance to actually 793 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 4: know you. 794 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you feel lonely and unsee for sure. 795 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, listener question. 796 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 3: Okay, I hope you all can. I hope everybody out 797 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 3: there can get something out of that. I certainly did. 798 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,959 Speaker 3: I feel like I can relate to that a lot. 799 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 3: It's a constant that's a constant journey. 800 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 4: It's like, oh, you only gave us a fifteen minute 801 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 4: long episode. Well, let us talk about trauma and healing, hey, 802 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 4: and that we can do for hours. 803 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 3: That we can do sort of our brand around here, 804 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 3: spin a wheel, folks. 805 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Most likely to spend hours curating the 806 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 4: perfect Instagram post was the wheel just listening to our conversation. 807 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:55,840 Speaker 3: Wit, I will say that I end up doing. I 808 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 3: spend way more time trying to put together like a 809 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 3: dumb reel, like just some that I think is funny, 810 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 3: like when my dogs opened up fertilizer all over my 811 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 3: couch and then I had to deal with cleaning that up, 812 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god, this is funny. 813 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 2: And so I took some videos. 814 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 3: But I am so not tech savvy with this stuff, 815 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 3: and so it takes way too long, I find myself. 816 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,399 Speaker 3: I don't know about hours, but way longer than I 817 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 3: wanted to spend, because usually I'll get halfway through and 818 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 3: then hit a button and the whole thing disappears and 819 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,719 Speaker 3: I have to start all over again. It makes me insane. Yeah, 820 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 3: so I really don't post a lot of those things 821 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 3: because it takes too long. I don't my brain can't 822 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 3: handle it. 823 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: I feel that way too, and it's weird because it 824 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: feels like such a chore. But then I also realize, 825 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,320 Speaker 1: like there'll be a hundred things that could be interesting 826 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: to share, and of those I shared maybe two. I 827 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: just don't have the energy for it. I don't know. 828 00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: I sometimes I wish I was better at it, because 829 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: I'm like, if only the things that feel like the 830 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:01,720 Speaker 1: most important, like make it out there. 831 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,279 Speaker 3: I know, I'd rather just call a friend to come 832 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 3: over and enjoy the weird moment with me. 833 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, do I really need to upload it for people? 834 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 835 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: It's like it's not the first place my brain goes. 836 00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: But then people that are really good at it, I'm 837 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: so amazed by. I'm like, how did you do that? 838 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:20,760 Speaker 1: This thing that you made? 839 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 2: How lovely? 840 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I'm not that skilled. 841 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 4: I will overthink it, but I will. I will get 842 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 4: through the photo portion, like I don't really mess with filters, 843 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 4: but I will spend way too much time working with 844 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,040 Speaker 4: like the nuance of the caption and being like this 845 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 4: word's too long, Okay, this word could be funnier. 846 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: The comedian you're working the joke, yea. 847 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, but it's like I will spend you know, 848 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 4: I'll save it as a draft, wake up next morn 849 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 4: and be like, no, no, it should have been witch. 850 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 2: I love that. 851 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 3: No, it's a creative outlet though that makes total sense 852 00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 3: for the comedian that you are, and it's real work. 853 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 3: Like do you remember when Barbara was on the show 854 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 3: and she said that she dated Jerry Seinfeld and she 855 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 3: was saying that he was very serious about the business 856 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 3: of being funny. I think that was her quote. He 857 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 3: was very serious about being funny. And I don't know 858 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 3: why that keeps coming up to me in random moments, 859 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 3: but I think that's part of it for you, Rob. 860 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 3: Isn't it like you're serious about being funny, You're good 861 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 3: at it, and you want it to work, so. 862 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 2: Of course you're gonna it's a creative outlet. 863 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and it matters to me. Tracks you know, 864 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 4: It's like if it's a photo and I'm not as 865 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 4: worried of like do I look handsome as much as 866 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 4: like if it's a caption, is like did I land 867 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 4: the plane? Is it as funny as it could have been? 868 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 3: You know? 869 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 4: Then I care. 870 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 3: Is there a character who would be spending hours on 871 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 3: social media trying to curate the perfect post, like I'd 872 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 3: say Alex. But I also feel like Alex would just 873 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 3: be like whatever, and she would just literally post anything. 874 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 4: She's too fast and loose I think to spray hours 875 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 4: doing it. I mean, I would say mouth because he 876 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 4: has that kind of time right now. He Wow and 877 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 4: he's he's hit with like he was like the first 878 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 4: person to ever have a podcast that I knew of. Yeah, 879 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 4: I could see him being savvy with it. 880 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 3: And he's always inventing himself, reinventing himself with different So 881 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 3: he's got like this push to get something out there. 882 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, ok mouth answer. 883 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 4: Although I do love the idea of Dan sitting in 884 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 4: some dingy garage obsessing over like the right picture and 885 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,760 Speaker 4: the right filter for his post. 886 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: By the way, Dan Scott definitely has a troll account. 887 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. 888 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's an absolute anonymous nightmare on the Internet. 889 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 3: How has nobody created a Dan Scott trolling account just 890 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 3: to start trolling all of us? Oh? 891 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 4: Come on, come on, so freaking fun. That's a great job. 892 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 2: You should do it. 893 00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 4: I think Paul should do it. Good at being Paul's 894 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,240 Speaker 4: funny man? 895 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 2: Is too busy? Yeah, it's true. 896 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 4: Bummer. 897 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 3: Next episode, Season eight, episode nineteen, where not to Look 898 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 3: for Freedom. Something tells me it's Puerto Rico. 899 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 4: Oh that means, uh, we got Cherry coming up, one 900 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 4: of Clay's new best friends. 901 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,280 Speaker 2: He makes Cherry. 902 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 4: You're going to have to tune in to see. Oh yeah, 903 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 4: interesting is it a stripper? Is it something else? You 904 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 4: just got to watch joy. 905 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. 906 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, thanks for hanging out with us on this 907 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,680 Speaker 3: extra special short content episode. 908 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 4: Model Episode Baby, Flashback Day, flash Back Day. 909 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 2: See you next week. 910 00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 3: Bye, Hey, thanks for listening. 911 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,240 Speaker 1: Don't forget to leave us a review. 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