WEBVTT - Kissing And Telling with Shannon Storms Beador

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<v Speaker 1>It's I Do Part two. I'm one of your celebrity mentors,

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<v Speaker 1>Jen Fessler from the Real Housewives of New Jersey and

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast Two Jersey Jays, and I am once again

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<v Speaker 1>joined by my dear friend, fellow mentor and housewives along

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly Bensimon, Hike, Shan Hi, and today we have an

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<v Speaker 1>incredible guest. You guys have watched her. It's true. It's true.

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<v Speaker 1>She's giggling, but she knows it's true. You guys have

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<v Speaker 1>watched her for years on the Real Housewives of Orange County,

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<v Speaker 1>where she is so loved, she has loved and she

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<v Speaker 1>has lost, and now she's opening up herself to love again.

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<v Speaker 1>On Bravo's Love Hotel, of course, we are talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the one and only Shannon shut the door Door. Wow, Hi, Shannon, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you? We're so happy to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yellow survive jendad not get the memo.

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<v Speaker 1>It's now it's fun to No, Yes, they're both of

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<v Speaker 1>these beautiful women are in yellow and yeah, we are

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<v Speaker 1>so exciting. Kelly and I keep talking about the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we are expectations for Love Hotel. For whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe because there are so many dating shows. Love Hotel

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<v Speaker 1>has far exceeded my expectations. Kelly, you say the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I was on a dating show and I

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<v Speaker 2>was and this you guys. First of all, you look

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<v Speaker 2>like you're having so much fun. You are having so

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<v Speaker 2>much fun. We had Ashley on. I love her so much.

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<v Speaker 2>You're obviously with when and you know Giselle, who is

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<v Speaker 2>dropped dead gorgeous. So you guys are having the best time.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you have all your friends come on as well,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and then you have like all these different

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<v Speaker 2>things that happen, you know, episode to episode that are

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<v Speaker 2>so good. It's really great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun, it's fun to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really fun. And you look gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>No really, and I'm not really big with the compliments.

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<v Speaker 2>You look really really, really spectacular.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I can tell you that first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>the place I love Grand VELAs. That hotel is beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you've been.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been there. I've been there, and they have three

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<v Speaker 1>different locations. It's an all inclusive. That's all we used

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<v Speaker 1>to go to with our kids because they're Gavones. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that is the expression. I'm a govone, I should say. Also, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>a bone. When you just eat, They just eat and

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<v Speaker 1>they have no concept when they were little, like oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a virgin mud slide, and like each virgin

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<v Speaker 1>mudslide is you know, fifteen dollars. So we'd decided on

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<v Speaker 1>all inclusives.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so much better.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, this is not about my kids. Yes, but

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<v Speaker 1>we want to talk about what's going on over there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am dying to no secrets. I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>probably not gonna be able to disclose, but what happened

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<v Speaker 1>with ear All?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait before we talk about what happened with e All?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just can I just set the stage. If

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<v Speaker 2>you have not watched Loved to Hotel, you have to

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<v Speaker 2>watch Love Hotel because the way that you come across

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<v Speaker 2>on Love Hotel is spectacular. And I really want to

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<v Speaker 2>know what happened worth All. We definitely want to know that.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we get into that, why did you want

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<v Speaker 2>to go on Love Hotel?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, I was asked to go a couple

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<v Speaker 3>months before, and I think I replaced somebody, so I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't in the initial initial cast, but I got a

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<v Speaker 3>DUI and it was a really difficult year for me,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I made about to focus on myself and

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't date, and I'm a relationship girl, like I

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<v Speaker 3>usually not single and not a big dater, and so

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<v Speaker 3>I thought, this is kind of like perfect timing. It's

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<v Speaker 3>been a year. I've been single for a year, and

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<v Speaker 3>let me try. What I thought too, is like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>who am I going to meet that's going to want

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<v Speaker 3>to be in our television show. I've been down that

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<v Speaker 3>road before, whether you say, oh, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be famous.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know they want to about that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I said to myself, I'm just going to go

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<v Speaker 3>and have fun. You really didn't expect to have, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a connection with it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably the best way to go into any situation.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're dating, I would say, like is have no experts,

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<v Speaker 1>expect probably to not meet anyone, and expect to just

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<v Speaker 1>make friends, and then you become everything is that the

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<v Speaker 1>stakes are so much lower and you can relax, have

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<v Speaker 1>a good time and here we are.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's it's insane. The friendships that I have maintained

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<v Speaker 3>since the show. The guys are really tight. They have

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<v Speaker 3>a regular really I think once a month.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see that they were really Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The first eight guys they call themselves the lead eight and.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really cute.

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<v Speaker 3>So I see I see quite a few of them,

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<v Speaker 3>and the girls especially, we have this bond, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we were we called it a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>social experiment because we didn't really know what we were

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<v Speaker 3>walking into, you know, being the first season.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know the girls?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so I did Project Runway with Giselle and Luanne,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course we've met through the years, right and

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<v Speaker 3>they met Ashley briefly. So we just you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>really enjoyed each other. We supported each other, We laughed

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<v Speaker 3>a lot, and you know, it's we have a great one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was part of it is it was

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<v Speaker 1>so refreshing to see a group of housewives. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no drama. Drama maybe with the guy whatever, but there

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<v Speaker 1>was simply camaraderie and like the sisterhood. It was really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>It was fun to watch, Thank you, Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so different than from what we see normally.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think also what I like about the show

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<v Speaker 3>is that we're older, so we're not just some young

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<v Speaker 3>people that everyone has a story. So I think there

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<v Speaker 3>was just a little.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about that with Ashley. At least, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we are more interested maybe in like as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to The Bachelor. We love the Golden Bachelor. Yes, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a whole other topic. Yes, for a different episode. We

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<v Speaker 1>did love that show. But I think that I'm loving

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<v Speaker 1>shows about with dating at my age, even though whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not single. But you know, it's I think the

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<v Speaker 1>characters quote unquote are so much more complex and interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure that young people don't feel that way,

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<v Speaker 1>but for someone like me and everybody I know, I

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<v Speaker 1>love watching you come to the table with all your

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<v Speaker 1>baggage and all of their baggage and knowing yourself so

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<v Speaker 1>much better than we did when we were twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing I thought too that I really loved is that

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<v Speaker 2>you were sitting there and you said, I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>to date. I like to be in relationships. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>talk to that?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, I'm going to say today, I'm liking

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<v Speaker 3>being single, and that's for me, that's growth because I

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<v Speaker 3>always identified with the relationship that I was in. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I like only having to worry about myself right now

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<v Speaker 3>and making choices for my.

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<v Speaker 1>Same man's sister.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's kind of nice. Yeah, you know, after the

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<v Speaker 3>Love Hotel, you know, I well, I can't. I can't

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<v Speaker 3>say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you can. As soon as the mics go off.

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<v Speaker 2>Right exactly soon as the myco off, We're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>like an after doog. So when you were on the show,

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<v Speaker 2>was it like going on the show? Was it like

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<v Speaker 2>a revenge for you? Or you were just like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm going to show everyone, like, obviously, how great

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<v Speaker 2>you look. Obviously like you have the most incredible demeanor.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like the loveliest human. Like I literally I was

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<v Speaker 2>like almost crying last night when I was watching you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, You're just such a

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<v Speaker 2>giving human, like choked up. I was really impressed. So

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<v Speaker 2>was it like a revenge for you? Were we trying

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<v Speaker 2>to prove something like?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, you know a real house. I was of

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<v Speaker 3>Orange County last season was airing when we filmed the show,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, it was a lot. It was hard

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<v Speaker 3>to watch back last season for me. So it was

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<v Speaker 3>an amazing distraction for me to be in Mexico for

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<v Speaker 3>almost a month.

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<v Speaker 2>Distraction not destruction.

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<v Speaker 3>Distraction. Yeah yeah, So I'm not I'm not focusing on

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<v Speaker 3>Orange County. I'm just going to have a good Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you that although you weren't in it

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<v Speaker 1>for the revenge. I feel like a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>viewers that love you, we're very satisfied by this whole experience,

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<v Speaker 1>and they experience and they got their events, So you

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<v Speaker 1>did good work.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to go back to that one scene again

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<v Speaker 2>because it's just like my one of my favorite scenes

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<v Speaker 2>where you are sitting there with Earl in your bedroom

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<v Speaker 2>or on the couch, and you know, it seems to

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<v Speaker 2>the viewer and you're going to be like, here's your note, thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>but no thanks, and then you dropped this amazing bomb

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<v Speaker 2>and I just was I just thought that the time

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<v Speaker 2>and the effort that you put in to that was

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<v Speaker 2>just so thoughtful.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh thank you, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the dynamic change, it was like a shift.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like all of a sudden, it was like pivot.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right, because we were kind of in an iffy

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<v Speaker 3>spot and I feel bad about the vegetables comment. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 3>but wait why I came across a little bit harsh

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<v Speaker 3>and Earle and I had a banter like we would

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<v Speaker 3>tease each other. So in my head when you said

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<v Speaker 3>I don't eat vegetable, and I'm I thinking, oh, got

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<v Speaker 3>to add that to the earl list.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I listen, it came out. It came out

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<v Speaker 1>like it was just both of you don't at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know each other well enough, and so the band

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<v Speaker 1>to no one knows who's being serious, who's being cutting,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe she's not, maybe he's not. And it felt like

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<v Speaker 1>you guys just missed the mark.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. I mean, he there was much more to the conversation,

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<v Speaker 3>but he said all he needed to do, and I

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<v Speaker 3>explained this to him at the table. All you needed

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<v Speaker 3>to do is lean in and say, hey, I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like you're criticizing me. I would have said, oh, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't mean to do that, and then it would

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<v Speaker 3>have ended like it wouldn't have got to this big place.

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<v Speaker 1>In you know, you guys were you guys were in

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<v Speaker 1>it and out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Though I didn't think that I would be crying on

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<v Speaker 3>the show, but I do a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>So but that's so great too. I thought, you're really

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<v Speaker 2>let your guard down. I mean, you know, again, like

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<v Speaker 2>back to Jen's comment about being you know, watching a

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<v Speaker 2>Real Housewives, is that you know everyone's guard is so up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, Like everyone feels like a

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<v Speaker 2>cat in the corner. But you guys are really like

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<v Speaker 2>the camaraderie between all of you guys, like the relationship

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<v Speaker 2>between like them, like with the way and like how

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<v Speaker 2>she's befriending these guys and like basically telling them what

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<v Speaker 2>to do. I feel like you have really good advice though,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you're like the advice girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, thank you. I it was when I

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<v Speaker 3>met Earl. He was not my first choice, but I

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<v Speaker 3>liked Ralph from.

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<v Speaker 1>Like just like seeing all of them.

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<v Speaker 3>He's more my type. But Earle was so vulnerable and

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<v Speaker 3>talking about his wife had passed away and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and how he'd wanted to have kids. And then as

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<v Speaker 3>we went on another date when Ralph didn't pick me,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he was talking about the step son that

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<v Speaker 3>he had and all he wanted to do was have

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<v Speaker 3>children and he wasn't able to and that broke my heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, I mean that's very you've had that. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the middle of this dating show and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you're thinking about, right, So which is that is?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know you, but I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like everyone knows I'm like Shannon's biggest fan president

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<v Speaker 2>fan Club.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean i'm vice president.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Well do I know her longer? I'm av I

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<v Speaker 2>know her longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. So I didn't see you with Earl when you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>when it first started happening, I was like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not feeling this. I don't see it. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand how this is. I can't see the connection. Not

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<v Speaker 1>that it matters what I see, but I just wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>feeling it for you guys. And but I will say that, like.

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<v Speaker 2>It seemed very cold. He didn't. You're very warm, and

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<v Speaker 2>he seems.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so different, just so different. You and you guys

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<v Speaker 1>called him simple, which I wonder if he took offense

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<v Speaker 1>to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Bye.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Earl, I know you mean the best way.

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<v Speaker 3>Pearl called himself simple. By the time he would say

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a simple man, in my response would always be

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a not so simple girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, though, I will tell you this, I watched it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought a lot of in a way my

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<v Speaker 1>own relationship because my husband is also a simple man.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he's not listening. He might admit it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, but he really is. He is simple. He

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<v Speaker 1>is simple. My husband is so easy to please, So

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<v Speaker 1>go with the flow. There's no drama. Does that mean

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<v Speaker 1>I'm interested? No, it doesn't. Sorry, Cal, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>rethink my whole philosophy. But my point is that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you need just that sort of I think at

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<v Speaker 1>this point in my life, if something would happen between

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<v Speaker 1>me and my husband, I would want peace and I

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<v Speaker 1>would want simple I don't need. I am such a

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<v Speaker 1>right freaking mess and like in whatever in a nice way,

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose, but I really am a hot mess, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always my anxieties and my issues, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>want a man who I could just lean not and

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<v Speaker 1>who is a rock and solid, And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>would attract me.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not dating, but you're looking for a relationship. And

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<v Speaker 2>you have the most beautiful daughters. And I always say,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jenna and I say this together is like we

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<v Speaker 2>always judge said, I don't like to judge people, but

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<v Speaker 2>I judge mothers. Like if you have great kids, then

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Okay, you've put the time and the effort

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<v Speaker 2>into your children. And your daughters are lovely, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>so well mannered, well raised, so ell agaant just beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're dating. You're dating, did you guys talk about

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<v Speaker 2>dating at home over like Sunday dinner.

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<v Speaker 3>Like no, not really. But they were horrified that when

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<v Speaker 3>I said it was going to be on the show,

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<v Speaker 3>because they're like, mom, you could embarrass us.

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, those girls have been through a lot. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I could see that they are. They probably also

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<v Speaker 1>want you to pick someone just for the peace of

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<v Speaker 1>it all.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, right, well they want I think at one point

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<v Speaker 3>Sophie says, I want someone that will take care of

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<v Speaker 3>my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember that, which is so sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah about crying.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they're great. They're great girls, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I I'm sure I did embarrass that might tell them

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<v Speaker 3>that's my job as a mother.

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<v Speaker 1>They came on the show, I mean they must have

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<v Speaker 1>had I'm sure that they were amazing. Yeah, they were amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And they also they came and they came on though

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't have to I'm assuming been there in their arm.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they want to come on the show.

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<v Speaker 3>And I mean, I'm they were appro so they did.

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<v Speaker 3>I have another daughter that was living in Paris. I

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<v Speaker 3>was too far for her to count, right, but I

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<v Speaker 3>would have had all three there.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you think was like the best question

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<v Speaker 2>that they asked, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, I think it's do you think that you could

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<v Speaker 3>deal with my mom's world?

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so how do I put this tactfully? If he

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<v Speaker 1>was the type of guy who had a six pack

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<v Speaker 1>and was tan, would it have bothered you? Because in

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<v Speaker 1>my view, you're on a boat, you know, everybody is

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<v Speaker 1>takes off their shirt, and I saw that you were

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<v Speaker 1>a little bothered. And I it's not a nice question,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can't always be nice. So was it partially

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<v Speaker 1>that you just you thought that because he was an

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<v Speaker 1>older man without you know, the bronze or off.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a little more buttoned up than other people. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>pretty conservative, so but I Ralph did have his shirt

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<v Speaker 3>unrettoned as well. Applause to earle that he feels comfortable

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<v Speaker 3>enough to have a shirt. And I wasn't the only

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<v Speaker 3>one commenting, but he was also.

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<v Speaker 2>He was he had his shirt open and was dancing.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a little yeah movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I get it. I'm not saying that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, All is a big personality, you know, and I

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<v Speaker 3>just I didn't want to really, you know, do the moves.

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<v Speaker 1>No, listen, there's cringe. There's always a cringe. Fact when

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting to know someone and you're on high alert

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<v Speaker 1>for that. So I do absolutely get that. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I felt it was a little cringey too. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just asking you because I'm picturing if, like, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>gorgeous guy that Ashley was, what's his name, walle Walle

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<v Speaker 1>waleh without his shirt on? Would have seemed very natural

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<v Speaker 1>to me, you know what I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, I understand what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>My take was that he felt really comfortable with you

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<v Speaker 2>at that time, and so he was just like loving

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<v Speaker 2>life and that's what my take.

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<v Speaker 3>Was, and comfortable with everyone else income to go with

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<v Speaker 3>the cameras filming.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh my god, and by way be comfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't remember doing a confessional and saying like whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>all the stuff that, but making all the comments about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny because when you watch back confessionals,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you guys have both done it way more

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<v Speaker 1>than I have. But I always am like so hard

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<v Speaker 1>on myself and the stuff that comes out of mind,

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't have, I couldn't have, a wouldn't have, And

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<v Speaker 1>the truth is, like from I think when I'm watching,

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<v Speaker 1>like I didn't see it as that harsh at all

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<v Speaker 1>show like I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm just being honest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I appreciate that because like in all my confessionals,

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<v Speaker 2>from like day one, I was I've always been like

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<v Speaker 2>just totally honest, absolutely, like you know, if you like

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<v Speaker 2>me or you don't like me, I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>This is how it's It's funny. I think it was

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<v Speaker 3>my third season. We had a new producer and he

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<v Speaker 3>was asking me the questions for the confessional and I

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<v Speaker 3>answer right away, and then my right leg would tap

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<v Speaker 3>and he goes, what's with the leg tap? And the

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<v Speaker 3>cameraman said, that's what Shannon does. And it's because I

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<v Speaker 3>answer right off the cuff, I don't think about what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, and then afterwards I'm like, oh god, what

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<v Speaker 3>did I say that sentence apart? Sometimes they'll do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's why you've been a housewife for this long? Yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>you have. Well there are many reasons, but you haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you don't edit yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>So everyone's watched out for Shannon's leg tap. That's like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about dating advice. Who gives you the best

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<v Speaker 2>dating advice? Is it your friends, your daughters, like, who

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<v Speaker 2>do you think gives you like the best?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really, I don't. I don't know because I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really date, I mean relationship. You know that.

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<v Speaker 3>I I know that. For me, I'm looking for someone

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a lot this laundry list of things

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<v Speaker 3>I need. I want to be with someone that has

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<v Speaker 3>a kind heart, that is intelligent and funny because I

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<v Speaker 3>like to laugh, and has strong family values and successful.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not we're too old all of us. My mantra

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<v Speaker 3>is I can contribute, but I cannot take on any

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<v Speaker 3>new bodies.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know I'm gonna take that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, listen, in an ideal world, I think, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it'd be great. I'm sure to have the load lightened

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<v Speaker 1>as well, right, I mean you carry a lot of course.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean I've been single now for you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think eight years so and I take care of

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<v Speaker 3>myself LANDA seven. You're a yeah, can.

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<v Speaker 1>You fathom like actually enjoy the process of dating like

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<v Speaker 1>I think if I was single right now, I could

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<v Speaker 1>I could enjoy it? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>I have just super outgoing though.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean I'm not going with like what your

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<v Speaker 2>things like, I'm outgoing with things that I have to do.

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<v Speaker 2>But if it's my choice of all choices, I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>home like watching Love Hotel like.

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<v Speaker 1>Me too, And I hear that, so what I but

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe because I feel like I am older and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like it's probably not gonna work lists. Just

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<v Speaker 1>have a good time. Maybe we'll end up friends. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you'll know someone, maybe I'll know someone for you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you gave me, that advice. Actually, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>good advice. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oftentimes.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean, I just I I have never been

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't believe I've ever been a priority

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<v Speaker 3>in a relationship. So I want to be someone's priority.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they can of course have children, but I

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<v Speaker 3>like that the children.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what you're talking about either. I'm sure you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about like being made to feel important and yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I can completely empathize with that. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're such a beautiful mother, and I'm like, I'm actually

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<v Speaker 2>it's getting it's making me emotional because you are such

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<v Speaker 2>a beautiful human and I can tell by your kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I also have felt like that for

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<v Speaker 2>so long, Like I'm always like I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>be the priority. I want the person to be like

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<v Speaker 2>you're my person, right like I was always the wife,

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<v Speaker 2>always taking care of everyone, always making sure everyone had everything,

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<v Speaker 2>did everything right. So I completely empathize with you, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry that you feel like that, and.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a main character. You are a main character, right right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you. I mean, it's it's all good. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>of course I want to grow old with a partner

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<v Speaker 3>and be part of a team. Of course I want that.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I don't, you know what my life is.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I've ever been happier, and I've been single, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I was in such a dark place after

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<v Speaker 3>my duy I didn't think that I would crawl out

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<v Speaker 3>of it. And that's when I know I met you, Jenna.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a month or two two months after,

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<v Speaker 3>just right after it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>And you were almost considered not even going to Brava

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<v Speaker 1>Kanu or not.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't want they didn't want me to go okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and I convinced them I don't want to hide behind

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<v Speaker 3>a rock. I want to address this head on, which

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<v Speaker 3>is so and so take accountability for what happened. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm again like I say this all the time. There's

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<v Speaker 3>not a day that goes by where I don't we

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<v Speaker 3>live that day and thank God that I didn't hurt anyone.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've learned so much about myself and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>in a good place. So if I don't get that partner, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>and I spend the rest of my life visiting my

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<v Speaker 3>three girls and their future families, I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no way to manifest when you get that partner.

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<v Speaker 2>When not, it's like no, no, all positive.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I like? I as the new year hit,

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I want to I'm going to focus continue

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<v Speaker 3>to focus on me and to make for me to

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<v Speaker 3>feel comfortable in my own skin and feel comfortable being

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<v Speaker 3>on my own. It's a big deal for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you like being alone?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't before, but it's kind of sometimes it's kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of nice, welcomed. Sometimes I love being alone. No, I

0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:49.920
<v Speaker 1>think that that's also part of what the good stuff

0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:53.600
<v Speaker 1>that comes from aging is like, right, I love.

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<v Speaker 2>On yourself to be spend time with yourself. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I've not necessarily alone. It's like loving yourself

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<v Speaker 2>to like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like not having anybody to answer to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of here. Even my kids like there gone by. I

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<v Speaker 1>like to just like have the house do my thing

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<v Speaker 1>on my schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll sleep in like, oh, I don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>get out.

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<v Speaker 1>Or answer to anyone, and nobody's looking at you saying

0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:14.880
<v Speaker 1>why are you sleeping inso late?

0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:18.040
<v Speaker 2>Or so? Who did you get along with the best?

0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Was it Giselle, Jazelle.

0:22:20.200 --> 0:22:21.600
<v Speaker 3>And Ashley? All of them?

0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:25.240
<v Speaker 3>Really all of them, but Gizelle and actually have known

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<v Speaker 3>each other for years and they have this relationship. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think that of all the women, I spent most

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<v Speaker 3>most of my time with Luinn, but I love all

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<v Speaker 3>all the girls.

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<v Speaker 1>You just had to, Yeah, you had. There's something. There

0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:39.800
<v Speaker 1>was a great energy between the four of you, and

0:22:39.840 --> 0:22:43.640
<v Speaker 1>it was devoid of housewives, which was really really cool.

0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Nobody was trying to get anybody, nobody was right. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>just seemed to me at least, like it was just

0:22:49.320 --> 0:22:50.280
<v Speaker 1>love and support.

0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:53.480
<v Speaker 2>And I'm actually glad that you and Luanne spent a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time together and got a long while because

0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.800
<v Speaker 2>she is such a great wingman and she's such a

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<v Speaker 2>great cheerleader as well.

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:02.959
<v Speaker 1>She is I'm sure she is all of that, but

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:05.119
<v Speaker 1>we are. I'm sorry what is going on with her

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:06.320
<v Speaker 1>what's with the ring? Shannon?

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:07.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Come on, come on now, I'm going to see her later.

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:14.040
<v Speaker 1>This I can't take it. I have to know the

0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:15.120
<v Speaker 1>group chats going.

0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:17.720
<v Speaker 2>I have this this Real Housewives group chat. Isn't she

0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:18.879
<v Speaker 2>on it? So?

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:20.160
<v Speaker 1>What is going on? Sad?

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:22.200
<v Speaker 2>I love the ring? It's a stunner.

0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:23.879
<v Speaker 1>Well, Shannon is not going to tell me. You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me.

0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Crickets after that? I just like, I love that ring.

0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 2>It's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>No, okay, all right, I don't know she's not engaged.

0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:39.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean it would it would have been like Sarah Page.

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:41.359
<v Speaker 1>It would have been like great pr for the show. Right,

0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:42.880
<v Speaker 1>she's all of a sudden wearing a ring. I mean

0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>if I was me and I hadn't watched the show

0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:46.879
<v Speaker 1>and I saw Lwayne walking around with the ring, I

0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 1>would immediately tune in, right right? I mean it's smart.

0:23:51.080 --> 0:23:52.440
<v Speaker 1>But I love the one guy that.

0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 3>She I forget Mark Mark.

0:23:56.720 --> 0:24:03.119
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, yes, Mark, very sweet, funny yeah from New

0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 1>York to tell us so one with that? Yes?

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:08.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I was with Mark last night and he

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:10.200
<v Speaker 3>told me that he asked you, what an aw date? Kelly?

0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 2>He did?

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Excuse me?

0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Actually, that's incorrect. I took Lewande's advice, and Luanne told

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:20.159
<v Speaker 2>me she goes Kelly Darling, when you're going to a

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.080
<v Speaker 2>bar and you see a lot of gorgeous men, write

0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:25.600
<v Speaker 2>down in the note a little question and send it

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:28.320
<v Speaker 2>with the bartender. So I was like, okay, So I

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:31.359
<v Speaker 2>did it, and it was Mark. He comes, get the

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 2>hell out of here, like literally one hundred percent.

0:24:34.080 --> 0:24:35.199
<v Speaker 3>He went out a couple of times.

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:38.399
<v Speaker 2>He went at once he came over, he came over

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:41.200
<v Speaker 2>to me. We were talking and then he's like, yeah,

0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm on Love Hotel. I have, you know, a bevy

0:24:45.520 --> 0:24:48.919
<v Speaker 2>of children. I lived, and I'm in real estate and

0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.640
<v Speaker 2>my house is pink. And he's a very funny guy

0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 2>on the show. Just like, what are you doing?

0:24:54.520 --> 0:24:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Jesus, Well, here's a problem. Also now that he's like,

0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>by the way, another spoiler alert here and now and

0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:03.399
<v Speaker 1>he's gone out with Kelly. We didn't work out with

0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:04.000
<v Speaker 1>leu Anne.

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:07.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well next week it'll be pretty clear.

0:25:07.520 --> 0:25:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, So whenever those airs, well.

0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Wait, don't tell me, don't tell me. I'm like, I'm

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 2>so invested in he is.

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 3>So he's so funny though, when he that couch and

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.680
<v Speaker 3>said I'm back, and then yes, I love it.

0:25:22.840 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 1>It was it was so adorable.

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 2>What about when he goes in an interview, They're like,

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>what do you think of Andy Cohen? He goes, who's

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Andy Cohen?

0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:30.159
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 3>He says, the broker, Oh my god, the.

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Broker, outfit, the whole thing like that, but he has

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:37.520
<v Speaker 2>great hair.

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:38.720
<v Speaker 1>What about you?

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:45.520
<v Speaker 3>And we're friends and you know I I will tell you.

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:46.200
<v Speaker 2>You saved him though you brought him back.

0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 3>I did, and I'm the one that gave James the key.

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:54.160
<v Speaker 3>Thank you man. She because right now in the show,

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 3>she and James are enjoying each.

0:25:55.680 --> 0:25:58.879
<v Speaker 2>Listen, I love Luanne so much, like literally, I am

0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 2>her rider die. But when that she and James saying,

0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:02.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, no, you.

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Guys, what was it? The one liner? Love love Hotel,

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Love hotel? You know that's showing up on our cabare

0:26:10.000 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 1>when I'm in a bad mood. By the way, if

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm this is true, why can.

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 2>We not sing?

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Well? I don't know what is going on, what the

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>tune was, but I will tell you that when I'm

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>in a bad mood, and that it is oftentimes that

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:22.760
<v Speaker 1>I am, I will pick up my phone and I

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:25.720
<v Speaker 1>will go to TikTok and I will search Luannella sept

0:26:25.800 --> 0:26:28.119
<v Speaker 1>and watch her do that cabaret and everything is right

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 1>in the world when I see her.

0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.359
<v Speaker 2>I love what I'm getting. When I were getting ready,

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 2>I always do like it's the Countess speaking.

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:36.240
<v Speaker 1>I was telling we did that, TikTok.

0:26:36.280 --> 0:26:36.560
<v Speaker 2>We did?

0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>We did?

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 2>We did?

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I love watching her do that. Yes, anyway, we even

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 1>though my name is Kelly, So okay, moving on, we

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:48.639
<v Speaker 1>have diverted, Let's talk about Uh, I'm having fun. I

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 1>always I know it.

0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Actually I can just sit here and talk about I

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:52.000
<v Speaker 2>know what I know.

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.440
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know it so well. Kelly, I actually

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>want you to take this question right now because we

0:26:57.560 --> 0:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>already spoke about you and Mark, and there seems to

0:26:59.640 --> 0:27:01.679
<v Speaker 1>be something in your life that I know nothing about.

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.160
<v Speaker 1>And I heard vaguely about something this morning, and I'd

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 1>like to get to it and maybe you could discuss

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it with Shannon's. You ain't discussing it with me.

0:27:09.680 --> 0:27:12.639
<v Speaker 2>Jen's like I didn't get the tea, So I again,

0:27:12.960 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 2>you know what. I just saw you in the green

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 2>room and I was just saying, like I just I

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:18.399
<v Speaker 2>was very impressed by you, and I just thought that

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:21.159
<v Speaker 2>you not only handled yourself well, but you are you

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 2>have grace. You have a lot of grace.

0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you know that, but you do,

0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 2>because it seems like you don't, but you do well.

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm I'm humble, Like I'm not good with compliments,

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, but.

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 2>So it's like humble on a smoke show. Which way.

0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:39.680
<v Speaker 3>No, but I'm not, I'm not good.

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 2>I just you you have grace, you have a lot

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:42.400
<v Speaker 2>of grace.

0:27:42.520 --> 0:27:44.919
<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you for you. That's a big deal for

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 3>me to say thank you, because I.

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Just you want to deny it.

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:49.679
<v Speaker 3>There's and don't want to deny it. But I just

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 3>don't want to be like.

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to be a big shot like oh yes.

0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah I am. No, I'm not going to say that.

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you do.

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>That also makes you stand apart in terms of housewives.

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I can't tell you how many times I just

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:07.679
<v Speaker 3>said it to Sarah today, which I had the ego,

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 3>you me both of some of these.

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Give me both kids. Yeah, Kelly, you're not out of

0:28:14.000 --> 0:28:14.720
<v Speaker 1>the hot seat going.

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I think again, just like that's one reason why,

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 2>like I think I didn't think that I personally am

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.919
<v Speaker 2>very invested in your narrative because and I do feel

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:25.280
<v Speaker 2>like you. I mean this, I do feel like you're

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>very strong, main character energy because of the things that

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 2>you've gone through and the way you're handling things and

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 2>the way you're moving forward. Just like the little things

0:28:32.720 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 2>you said, like at the top when we talked about

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 2>like relationship versus dating, just like the way that you

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 2>speak about things has it has you know, very a

0:28:40.920 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 2>very strong like underpinning of grace, which is beautiful. So

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 2>I recently have you, I've been single. I the reason

0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 2>that I'm on this podcast is because I called off

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 2>my wedding four days for us. Remember, there was there

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 2>was there was a pre nup situation. There were some

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 2>other situations. Uh, and I just was like, I'm not

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 2>doing that. Fortunately, I haven't seen him, heard from him, nothing,

0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 2>which is so great. I literally was like Galley, which

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>is amazing, and I'm actually really grateful for that. I

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I miss his mother, but I don't miss him.

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:20.760
<v Speaker 1>But that's a first I did.

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I loved his mother. Oh my god, she was beautiful,

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 2>because I don't my parents are deceased. She was just

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:30.480
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful human. So cut to on this podcast, I've

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.680
<v Speaker 2>been really making a concerted effort to be in therapy

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 2>and also use the podcast as a way for me

0:29:35.920 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 2>to apply what I'm learning. So whether that's talking about relationships,

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 2>whether that's going on dates, whether that's having jen on

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 2>some of my days, and so, you know, I've been dating,

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've been going out a lot of dates.

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 2>And I met someone who's amazing, who's a really really

0:29:53.720 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 2>great person. And I found out from a fan that

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 2>he was somewhere kissing a woman, not just kissing, but

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:08.480
<v Speaker 2>making out with a woman. And it was really, really

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 2>really upsetting to me. How long, granted that we're just

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 2>in the early.

0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Stage, how many dates have you been on with him?

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, I went with him to Miami. You know,

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 2>I've gone you know, a couple of many, you know,

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 2>like probably like ten dates.

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 3>What you went on a trip with him?

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I want to trip with him. This was like

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:26.760
<v Speaker 2>I went to f one with him a couple of

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 2>weeks ago. He's he's great.

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 1>When did you find out that this happened?

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:34.200
<v Speaker 2>I found out last weekend during swim week, right before

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 2>I right before to.

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Me, it wasn't bethany Well he did he did. He

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:43.080
<v Speaker 1>did not get away from her and maybe Rachel you

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 1>just you tell Oh my god. Okay, but anyway, but.

0:30:47.960 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 3>Did you have a conversation about exclusivity?

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Like, no, I don't know.

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Does that happen?

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:54.520
<v Speaker 1>It's just like I don't know.

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, that's why I'm asking you. That's why I'm

0:30:56.480 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 2>trusting you. So I do not trust you too.

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't feel like you're on No, I don't.

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>But I was asking you what your thoughts are.

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, I see that is so hurtful. I'm

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 3>super sensitive, but I'm very sensitive. That's bye bye.

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Plus, I've been in like relationship after relationship. I mean,

0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 2>every single man I've ever dated has cheated on me

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 2>except for one.

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Well, let me ask you this, and.

0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 2>They're open about They're like, oh, I just cheated on you.

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that's nice for you. Oh, here's a picture

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 2>of me with this girl. That's so nice.

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Are you kidding?

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, guys are awful with me. I'm like you,

0:31:32.200 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 2>it's just okay.

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>So you obviously started him. You obviously confronted him.

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I confronted him and I said, I said, I just

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 2>want to be careful because you know, I don't know

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 2>what's going on. I don't do like, you know, it's.

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Very magnanimous of you.

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 2>You and her, like I don't do that. I don't

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, if you want to be with her, you

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 2>should be with her, Like I was very I'm an adult, like.

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Did you know who the girl was? No?

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, no idea?

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 3>And what did he say?

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 2>And he just is like really upset, really really to upset,

0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 2>really really upset. But you know, the thing is too,

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 2>is that like dating, you know, there's there's two questions.

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 2>So first of all the advice of like what I

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 2>should do, But the second question is how do you

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 2>navigate being on a show, of being well known and

0:32:15.800 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 2>navigating this brave new world of dating with these fans

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 2>who are incredibly loyal to me, who are just so

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 2>lovely and have my back, like you can't go anywhere

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>because there's going to be somebody and it's not you know,

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 2>we don't just have female fans. We have male fans too,

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 2>by the way, and a lot of guys are always like, hey,

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:36.959
<v Speaker 2>that guy's not good for you, Like I don't know.

0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:40.080
<v Speaker 2>That also happened to me I had a fan or

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>a friend. I don't like to call them fans because

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 2>it sounds super disingenuous. But you know a friend who

0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 2>literally said, I know who that person is. That person's

0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 2>not a good person, not this guy, another guy.

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>So I was just like, you have but kel you

0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm not sure the answer, because yes, I

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>understand ten dates. There's a lot of dates you went

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 1>away with him. Maybe exclusivity is implied. Having said that,

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that there is probably under the umbrella. Well,

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 1>we never spoke about being exclusive, so it was a

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>one time whatever. Maybe I don't know.

0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 3>I never called to my boyfriend. I never like you think, well,

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 3>I will just say that the one difference that I

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 3>had with a couple of the Gala's Unloved Hotel is

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 3>that like they will be intimate with a man just

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:32.960
<v Speaker 3>to be intimate. For me, it's about the person, it's

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 3>about that connection. So like, I don't I won't just

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 3>have sex to have sex like that.

0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's my because I won't either.

0:33:39.400 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I won't either.

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:44.160
<v Speaker 3>So that's my if if you're intimate, was if I'm

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 3>intimate with someone, And so I don't know if you

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 3>went there, but then we're you're not seeing anybody that's interesting?

0:33:51.600 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But I yeah, because and They all were like,

0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't an age thing because I think Luanne felt

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 1>more free in that area. And yeah, I mean.

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Was kissing both guy well.

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>But then she also freaked out when the one guy

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 1>had his arms around Cynthia and that was not making out.

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>That was we're on you know, love hotel, right, so

0:34:10.000 --> 0:34:12.720
<v Speaker 1>obviously she felt like that was disrespectful when James.

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 2>When James, I thought that was weird. I was like,

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 2>get you get your hands off my friend, right, yeah,

0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 2>and by the way, I was supposed to go, I

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 2>know Cynthia, Yeah, but I had to do something with iHeart, yeah,

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 2>which was so much fun too. But yes, luans like

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 2>you should have come, and I was like, oh so.

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Wait, hold on, So what's the outcome? What happened with

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the guy? Is he still alive.

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Days ago trying to contact you?

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:43.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, sent me beautiful flower.

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.600
<v Speaker 3>So he says him done with this girl? Was it?

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Has he been dating her?

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Did he just meet her exactly that day? What? Thank you?

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 2>He was drinking a lot and it may or may

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 2>not have been his ex fiancee.

0:34:55.960 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Now, unfortunately, Kelly, I have to rethink the whole thing.

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:03.839
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was like, you're going to say he

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 1>was wasted.

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:06.800
<v Speaker 2>They were out this. Well, that's why I'm trying to

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>be the adult about it, because they were together and

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 2>I said to him, if you want to be together,

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I support you, like I'm not going to get you

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 2>and I'm not going to get in the way of

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 2>someone that's not going to happen if you have a

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 2>connection with someone that's you know, I care about him. Yes,

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 2>I do have self respect.

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to say now, you just threw up.

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Plus, I've been like cheated on so many times. I'm

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 2>just like, what's what's different, Like, yeah, you know what,

0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:33.840
<v Speaker 2>I think, Wait, maybe we should do a show on

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:35.200
<v Speaker 2>like all the cheaters together.

0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 3>I think that okay, you knowing that he was with

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:43.760
<v Speaker 3>someone and then that's okay.

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm on Instagram on Instagram she was telling me this,

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 2>and it just was like I was like, oh my gosh.

0:35:50.520 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like if you were to accept him

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 3>back and then you're a relationship, you're saying that's okay.

0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Listen, I have I was separated for a year and

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>a half. I don't know if you know this, but

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:05.479
<v Speaker 1>there were infidelities in my marriage coming from both of us.

0:36:05.840 --> 0:36:08.680
<v Speaker 1>The first one was not for me having said that,

0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>here we are today twenty five years later, twenty six.

0:36:13.080 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 1>I think we're twenty six. And I'm not saying that

0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 1>an affair is not something or I believe personally that

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 1>it depends on the situation and sometimes you can. I'm

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:26.319
<v Speaker 1>here to tell you move on. Things will change, and

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:28.879
<v Speaker 1>they certainly did for my husband and I. But this

0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of thing, it's still so new. He's supposed to

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:33.560
<v Speaker 1>be obsessed with you and only you.

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 2>So that's why when you were talking at the beginning

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I was like, oh my god,

0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:40.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna start to cry. That's why I'm like, I

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:42.280
<v Speaker 2>want main character energy.

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 1>No you, no, bit, it's more main character energy than you.

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Get the hell out of here.

0:36:46.680 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, anyway, I just wanted to ask your thoughts.

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:53.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just like, Jenquar, how many how many years

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 3>were you married before seven?

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>It was the seven year itch? It was the cliche

0:36:57.680 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 1>of it all.

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Okay, See, I've been divorced for fifteen and then I

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 2>dated this guy for two. Then I had to cut

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:05.799
<v Speaker 2>that off because that was not good. That was not

0:37:05.880 --> 0:37:08.439
<v Speaker 2>good for me. And so now I'm like, oh my god,

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 2>is it again? Am I ever going to meet someone

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 2>who just like wants to be with me.

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:14.319
<v Speaker 3>You know, when you're when when you try and when

0:37:14.360 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 3>you you know, start and give it your all and

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:21.080
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't work out. That's why I got so upset

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 3>that Earle and I fought. I just felt like it

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:25.399
<v Speaker 3>was ruining.

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Everything because you were so impressed in it at this point, it's.

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 3>Like, oh wait, this is so great and what happened

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Like now it's just blown up into this big ordeal

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:40.399
<v Speaker 3>and it really upset me because it's like, just you know.

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:43.360
<v Speaker 2>But you didn't get upset and talk about how upset

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:46.719
<v Speaker 2>you were. You you pivoted and did something kind for

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 2>him and changed the narrative. And so that's one reason

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:55.359
<v Speaker 2>why I also think that you're a great advice person giver,

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 2>because you know, and just like Jen was saying, it's like,

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:01.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're so that you're saying it. It's like

0:38:01.520 --> 0:38:05.839
<v Speaker 2>just because there is no right way to have a relationship,

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 2>to have a marriage, there's no right way. There's no book,

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 2>do you know what I mean, There's no like you know,

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 2>people don't have you know, there's a lot of ways

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 2>you can move in and out of that that license

0:38:17.880 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 2>if you.

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 1>Will although I will tell you that I have much

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>less patience now for friends of mine like at our

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.359
<v Speaker 1>age ladies, and I think we're all about the same age.

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Forgive me if you guys are younger than me, But

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you got to be a little smarter.

0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 1>You got to sort of see things in a different

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 1>way that you did, like like, oh, you know, I

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>mean you have to be And I'm not saying you

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:40.279
<v Speaker 1>have to be defensive, and I'm not saying that you

0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:43.720
<v Speaker 1>have to overthink everything, but there are not like Kelly.

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>This to me is a perfect example. If I that

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 1>happened to me and I was let's say I was

0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 1>crazy about a guy when I was twenty five and

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>he had done that, I would let it go. In

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:54.960
<v Speaker 1>about two seconds. I would convince myself and everyone around

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:57.359
<v Speaker 1>me that it was that he fell into her mouth

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 1>like that. That would be like the narric because I wouldn't.

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 1>I would just feel that desperation and not enough you know,

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.880
<v Speaker 1>self worth to say wait a second, your ex fiancee

0:39:07.920 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>to get the fuck out of here. I think now,

0:39:10.239 --> 0:39:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I hope now I've come a long way from that

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 1>at age fifty six, and I feel like you guys,

0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 1>we would we have to be a little smarter.

0:39:17.280 --> 0:39:21.799
<v Speaker 3>Now, well, I'm sixty one, so if suprating when look

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:27.359
<v Speaker 3>at her, Like, when I do a relationship, I have

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:29.840
<v Speaker 3>to know that it is the right relationship because I

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 3>got one more shot. You know, I'm not gonna I it,

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 3>just I have to know. So that's not a good

0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 3>way to start.

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>When you look back at your other relationships, Like do

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 1>you see things now, I don't know if we're geting,

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>we're not even the names, but do you see that

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>there were warning signs that you.

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:51.839
<v Speaker 2>Importantly right from the get really but by the way,

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 2>like you know, to your point, I'm saying, by the way,

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:57.920
<v Speaker 2>to your point. So I'm like, don't have to say anything,

0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:03.200
<v Speaker 2>uh no, But to your point, when you do something,

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 2>you set a precedence like okay, I'm doing this. If

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:07.800
<v Speaker 2>you let me get away with it's like a kid,

0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:10.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like you're you. I didn't say no, I'm gonna

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 2>let you do it. That they're going to keep doing

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 2>it over again again in different ways. Yeah, they're not

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:17.000
<v Speaker 2>going to be doing maybe the same thing, but they're

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 2>going to do things similar ways. And you know, I'm

0:40:22.880 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 2>not like I'm not like, oh my god, here are

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:26.479
<v Speaker 2>the rules. I just feel like you should just.

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 3>Know, right. But the good thing, if you want to

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 3>call it good, the positive that is coming out of

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:38.240
<v Speaker 3>this you're the fan reaching out to you and telling

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.720
<v Speaker 3>you about this ten date guy, is that you've found

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:44.759
<v Speaker 3>out now. Yeah, you know, because if you if you

0:40:44.880 --> 0:40:46.759
<v Speaker 3>meet someone who's a stranger, I think it takes a

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 3>good two years to get to know somebody, to truly

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 3>get to know who they are, So you know, you

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:55.040
<v Speaker 3>can nip that in the butt.

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 2>But maybe I'm just too open. Maybe I'm just too

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 2>but maybe honestly, maybe it's.

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Beginning now it's z ex fiance, so like Kelly, you

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:04.359
<v Speaker 1>don't need that.

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 2>But then what about the other guy that I was

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:08.400
<v Speaker 2>that you know, it was like we had to get married,

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 2>he had to get engaged, he had to do all

0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:13.279
<v Speaker 2>these things, Like what is it about not them? What

0:41:13.440 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 2>is it about me that I'm longing? I don't have

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 2>my main character, grace Shanon.

0:41:17.280 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you mean whether they want to

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:20.919
<v Speaker 1>lock you down, what do you mean?

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:24.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, they're like, okay, you now good? You want that

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:26.319
<v Speaker 2>je you can't pull me. I may or may not

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:28.279
<v Speaker 2>be wearing extensions like please do not I.

0:41:28.200 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 1>Wish I hope that continues for you and for Shannon. Yeah,

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean I like for them to want to lock

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>you guys.

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 3>I would like take charge person.

0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, not calling me and saying like we're getting married tomorrow.

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 1>But guess what. You're strong enough at this point you're

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 1>like to say, guess what, No, we're not getting married tomorrow.

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>And that's the maybe you would have been, you know,

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>a different person when you were even in your forties.

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Like listen, it's like a high school musical song, strong.

0:41:52.320 --> 0:41:57.319
<v Speaker 1>You all, Yeah, don't ever do that again, please, I

0:41:57.360 --> 0:41:58.399
<v Speaker 1>beg of you.

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Everyone can sing, no, not everyone. Yes, anyway, everyone's a singer.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you guys, So all right, So anyway, Shannon, like,

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<v Speaker 1>just is there any takeaway from love hotality advice you

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<v Speaker 1>want to give to our listeners in terms of, like

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<v Speaker 1>you put yourself out there again? And which is I

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<v Speaker 1>think you know that's the gift of you. But anything

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<v Speaker 1>you'd want to you know impart.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I just think that as far as dating goes it,

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<v Speaker 3>you should be vulnerable and you should be honest. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I was criticized a bit for like why are you

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<v Speaker 3>telling everybody that you got a duy because it's part

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<v Speaker 3>of me. Let's just get it out of the way.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love that. That is the key, I think

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<v Speaker 1>one of the keys to being successful in housewives. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to own your you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's interesting because I was raised to like not talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh now, you don't talk about anything. Everything's fine, everything's perfect,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all great news.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you want to hear the good news. That's like

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 2>my father would say, I want to hear the good news.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to hear the great news. It was always great, great, good, good,

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<v Speaker 2>good good. There was no bad. There's something Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's no, no, no, no, we don't talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually sat down with Earle and I brought him

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<v Speaker 3>up to my room and I played him clips from

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<v Speaker 3>the Real Housewives of Orange County Cool so he would

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<v Speaker 3>have kind of an understanding of there's the door shon door.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I showed him that scene and he was like, you've

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<v Speaker 3>got to be kidding me.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that wasn't embarrassing for you.

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<v Speaker 2>That was just funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, but I but I showed him that and

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<v Speaker 3>a couple others, and you know, he kind of got

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<v Speaker 3>it a little bit. It was just so refreshing for

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<v Speaker 3>us to have the men not like none of them

0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 3>had seen the House I shows before, so that was

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<v Speaker 3>really nice that they were getting to know us for us,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, is it?

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<v Speaker 2>The guys were great. The guys were really great.

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<v Speaker 1>I really hope. I don't know what. I know. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to tell me, but I was still waiting

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<v Speaker 1>on the last episode. I really hope you, guys, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it's not romantic, end up, like you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>friends and having some relationship because I loved I did

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<v Speaker 1>really grow to love the two of you together.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Very sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say that there is one of the ladies

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<v Speaker 3>of the four that is still dating someone Lunne.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy shit, you heard it here first. No, I know

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<v Speaker 1>they're all nodding there.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, don't know, just say wrong to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I could figure it out, Shannon. I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>to be you, Jelle.

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<v Speaker 2>I love, I love.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to read her eyes, you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>But she, Shannon is an ice queen.

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<v Speaker 1>God, she's not letting it go.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us, tell us, tell us, it's just too strong.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't break her all right? Three more?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, I have to ask one more question. I have

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<v Speaker 2>to one more question. Kissing on camera and how was that?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what? Like at a certain point, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you just forget that microphone is on your back and

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:06.799
<v Speaker 3>that you've got cameras. I forgot that they have those

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 3>robotic cameras in the room so early. And I did

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<v Speaker 3>have like a little makeout session, but I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think i've seen it yet.

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't seen it. I don't remember see it. I do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember very well the makeout sessions because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't stand on TV when you hear the noises. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I love Ashley, but he was like the I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, right, the one lizard kissing or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, whoa, yeah, nothing alse him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's very good God, no, no, he's he is very

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<v Speaker 2>good looking. But just like the yeah, I'll be like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, you scare me.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're with Ashley Darby, you're gonna oh too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard not to maybe do something else with maybe

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<v Speaker 2>not with the volume.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. It is funny because after my first

0:45:52.600 --> 0:45:55.600
<v Speaker 3>date with Earle, we were at the elevators and you're

0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 3>not supposed to be alone, you know, not on camera,

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<v Speaker 3>and he kissed me and we got in a little

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:06.320
<v Speaker 3>bit trouble. Yeah, because it wasn't on camera. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I love that you did it off camera though.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool. Take yeah, take charge, Take charge all right? Guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we love you.

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<v Speaker 3>We love you, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing.

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