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Speaker 1: It's I Do Part two. I'm one of your celebrity mentors,

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Speaker 1: Jen Fessler from the Real Housewives of New Jersey and

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Speaker 1: the podcast Two Jersey Jays, and I am once again

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Speaker 1: joined by my dear friend, fellow mentor and housewives along

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Speaker 1: Kelly Bensimon, Hike, Shan Hi, and today we have an

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Speaker 1: incredible guest. You guys have watched her. It's true. It's true.

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Speaker 1: She's giggling, but she knows it's true. You guys have

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Speaker 1: watched her for years on the Real Housewives of Orange County,

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Speaker 1: where she is so loved, she has loved and she

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Speaker 1: has lost, and now she's opening up herself to love again.

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Speaker 1: On Bravo's Love Hotel, of course, we are talking about

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Speaker 1: the one and only Shannon shut the door Door. Wow, Hi, Shannon, Hi,

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Speaker 1: how are you? We're so happy to see you.

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Speaker 2: Yellow survive jendad not get the memo.

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Speaker 1: It's now it's fun to No, Yes, they're both of

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Speaker 1: these beautiful women are in yellow and yeah, we are

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Speaker 1: so exciting. Kelly and I keep talking about the fact

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Speaker 1: that we are expectations for Love Hotel. For whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: maybe because there are so many dating shows. Love Hotel

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Speaker 1: has far exceeded my expectations. Kelly, you say the same thing.

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Speaker 2: And also I was on a dating show and I

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Speaker 2: was and this you guys. First of all, you look

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Speaker 2: like you're having so much fun. You are having so

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Speaker 2: much fun. We had Ashley on. I love her so much.

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Speaker 2: You're obviously with when and you know Giselle, who is

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Speaker 2: dropped dead gorgeous. So you guys are having the best time.

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Speaker 2: And then you have all your friends come on as well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, and then you have like all these different

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Speaker 2: things that happen, you know, episode to episode that are

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Speaker 2: so good. It's really great.

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Speaker 1: It's fun, it's fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really fun. And you look gorgeous.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: No really, and I'm not really big with the compliments.

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Speaker 2: You look really really, really spectacular.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I can tell you that first of all,

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Speaker 1: the place I love Grand VELAs. That hotel is beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Oh you've been.

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Speaker 1: I've been there. I've been there, and they have three

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Speaker 1: different locations. It's an all inclusive. That's all we used

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Speaker 1: to go to with our kids because they're Gavones. I

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Speaker 1: think that is the expression. I'm a govone, I should say. Also, anyway,

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Speaker 1: a bone. When you just eat, They just eat and

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Speaker 1: they have no concept when they were little, like oh,

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Speaker 1: I have a virgin mud slide, and like each virgin

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Speaker 1: mudslide is you know, fifteen dollars. So we'd decided on

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Speaker 1: all inclusives.

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Speaker 2: It's so much better.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, this is not about my kids. Yes, but

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Speaker 1: we want to talk about what's going on over there,

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Speaker 1: and I am dying to no secrets. I know you're

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Speaker 1: probably not gonna be able to disclose, but what happened

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Speaker 1: with ear All?

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Speaker 2: Wait before we talk about what happened with e All?

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Speaker 2: Can I just can I just set the stage. If

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Speaker 2: you have not watched Loved to Hotel, you have to

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Speaker 2: watch Love Hotel because the way that you come across

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Speaker 2: on Love Hotel is spectacular. And I really want to

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Speaker 2: know what happened worth All. We definitely want to know that.

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Speaker 2: But before we get into that, why did you want

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Speaker 2: to go on Love Hotel?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I was asked to go a couple

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Speaker 3: months before, and I think I replaced somebody, so I

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Speaker 3: wasn't in the initial initial cast, but I got a

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Speaker 3: DUI and it was a really difficult year for me,

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Speaker 3: and so I made about to focus on myself and

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Speaker 3: I didn't date, and I'm a relationship girl, like I

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Speaker 3: usually not single and not a big dater, and so

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Speaker 3: I thought, this is kind of like perfect timing. It's

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Speaker 3: been a year. I've been single for a year, and

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Speaker 3: let me try. What I thought too, is like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: who am I going to meet that's going to want

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Speaker 3: to be in our television show. I've been down that

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Speaker 3: road before, whether you say, oh, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: And then you know they want to about that.

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Speaker 3: So I said to myself, I'm just going to go

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Speaker 3: and have fun. You really didn't expect to have, you know,

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Speaker 1: That's probably the best way to go into any situation.

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Speaker 1: If you're dating, I would say, like is have no experts,

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Speaker 1: expect probably to not meet anyone, and expect to just

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Speaker 1: a good time and here we are.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's it's insane. The friendships that I have maintained

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Speaker 2: You can see that they were really Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The first eight guys they call themselves the lead eight and.

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Speaker 1: That's really cute.

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Speaker 3: So I see I see quite a few of them,

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Speaker 3: and the girls especially, we have this bond, you know,

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Speaker 3: we were we called it a little bit of a

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Speaker 3: social experiment because we didn't really know what we were

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Speaker 3: walking into, you know, being the first season.

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Speaker 1: Did you know the girls?

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Speaker 3: Well, so I did Project Runway with Giselle and Luanne,

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Speaker 3: and of course we've met through the years, right and

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Speaker 3: they met Ashley briefly. So we just you know, we

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Speaker 3: really enjoyed each other. We supported each other, We laughed

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Speaker 1: I think that was part of it is it was

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Speaker 1: so refreshing to see a group of housewives. There was

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Speaker 1: no drama. Drama maybe with the guy whatever, but there

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Speaker 3: It was fun to watch, Thank you, Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 2: It's so different than from what we see normally.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think also what I like about the show

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Speaker 3: is that we're older, so we're not just some young

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Speaker 3: people that everyone has a story. So I think there

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Speaker 1: We talked about that with Ashley. At least, I feel

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Speaker 1: like we are more interested maybe in like as opposed

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Speaker 1: to The Bachelor. We love the Golden Bachelor. Yes, that's

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Speaker 1: a whole other topic. Yes, for a different episode. We

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Speaker 1: did love that show. But I think that I'm loving

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that young people don't feel that way,

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Speaker 1: love watching you come to the table with all your

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Speaker 1: much better than we did when we were twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Thing I thought too that I really loved is that

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm going to say today, I'm liking

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Speaker 1: Same man's sister.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of nice. Yeah, you know, after the

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Speaker 3: Love Hotel, you know, I well, I can't. I can't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well you can. As soon as the mics go off.

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Speaker 2: Right exactly soon as the myco off, We're gonna have

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Speaker 2: like an after doog. So when you were on the show,

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Speaker 2: now I'm going to show everyone, like, obviously, how great

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Speaker 2: you look. Obviously like you have the most incredible demeanor.

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Speaker 2: You're like the loveliest human. Like I literally I was

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Speaker 2: was it like a revenge for you? Were we trying

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Speaker 3: No, no, you know a real house. I was of

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Speaker 3: Orange County last season was airing when we filmed the show,

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Speaker 3: and you know, it was a lot. It was hard

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Speaker 3: to watch back last season for me. So it was

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Speaker 3: an amazing distraction for me to be in Mexico for

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Speaker 3: almost a month.

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Speaker 2: Distraction not destruction.

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Speaker 3: Distraction. Yeah yeah, So I'm not I'm not focusing on

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Speaker 3: Orange County. I'm just going to have a good Well.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you that although you weren't in it

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Speaker 1: viewers that love you, we're very satisfied by this whole experience,

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Speaker 1: and they experience and they got their events, So you

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Speaker 2: I have to go back to that one scene again

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Speaker 2: because it's just like my one of my favorite scenes

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Speaker 2: And then the dynamic change, it was like a shift.

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Speaker 2: It was like all of a sudden, it was like pivot.

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Speaker 3: Right right, because we were kind of in an iffy

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Speaker 3: but wait why I came across a little bit harsh

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Speaker 1: You know, I listen, it came out. It came out

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Speaker 3: Well. I mean, he there was much more to the conversation,

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Speaker 3: but he said all he needed to do, and I

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Speaker 3: I didn't mean to do that, and then it would

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Speaker 3: have ended like it wouldn't have got to this big place.

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Speaker 1: In you know, you guys were you guys were in

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Speaker 1: it and out of it.

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Speaker 3: Though I didn't think that I would be crying on

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Speaker 3: the show, but I do a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: So but that's so great too. I thought, you're really

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Speaker 2: let your guard down. I mean, you know, again, like

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Speaker 2: back to Jen's comment about being you know, watching a

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Speaker 2: Real Housewives, is that you know everyone's guard is so up,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like everyone feels like a

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Speaker 2: the camaraderie between all of you guys, like the relationship

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Speaker 2: she's befriending these guys and like basically telling them what

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Speaker 2: to do. I feel like you have really good advice though,

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Speaker 2: I feel like you're like the advice girl.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, thank you. I it was when I

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Speaker 1: Like just like seeing all of them.

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Speaker 3: He's more my type. But Earle was so vulnerable and

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Speaker 2: I don't know you, but I love you.

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Speaker 1: Just so different, just so different. You and you guys

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Speaker 3: Bye.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Earl, I know you mean the best way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, though, I will tell you this, I watched it,

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Speaker 2: You're not dating, but you're looking for a relationship. And

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Speaker 3: Like no, not really. But they were horrified that when

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Speaker 3: Right, right, well they want I think at one point

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that, which is so sweet.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're great. They're great girls, and you know,

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Speaker 3: And I mean, I'm they were appro so they did.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think was like the best question

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Speaker 3: Know, I think it's do you think that you could

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Speaker 2: I remember that scene.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so how do I put this tactfully? If he

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Speaker 2: My take was that he felt really comfortable with you

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Speaker 3: Was, and comfortable with everyone else income to go with

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Speaker 1: And oh my god, and by way be comfortable.

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Speaker 3: I didn't remember doing a confessional and saying like whatever,

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Speaker 3: This is how it's It's funny. I think it was

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Speaker 1: Well, that's why you've been a housewife for this long? Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: you have. Well there are many reasons, but you haven't.

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Speaker 2: So everyone's watched out for Shannon's leg tap. That's like,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about dating advice. Who gives you the best

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Speaker 2: dating advice? Is it your friends, your daughters, like, who

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Speaker 3: I don't really, I don't. I don't know because I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't really date, I mean relationship. You know that.

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Speaker 3: I I know that. For me, I'm looking for someone

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Speaker 3: It's not we're too old all of us. My mantra

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 3: So you know I'm gonna take that.

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Speaker 1: No, listen, in an ideal world, I think, I mean,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean I've been single now for you know,

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Speaker 3: myself LANDA seven. You're a yeah, can.

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Speaker 1: You fathom like actually enjoy the process of dating like

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Speaker 1: I could enjoy it? Oh?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: I have just super outgoing though.

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Speaker 2: So I mean I'm not going with like what your

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Speaker 2: But if it's my choice of all choices, I'll be

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Speaker 1: Me too, And I hear that, so what I but

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Speaker 1: so it's like it's probably not gonna work lists. Just

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Speaker 1: have a good time. Maybe we'll end up friends. Maybe

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Speaker 1: you'll know someone, maybe I'll know someone for you.

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Speaker 2: That's what you gave me, that advice. Actually, yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: Oftentimes.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, I just I I have never been

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't believe I've ever been a priority

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry that you feel like that, and.

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Speaker 3: You're a main character. You are a main character, right right, right,

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Speaker 3: But if I don't, you know what my life is.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever been happier, and I've been single, yes,

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Speaker 3: my duy I didn't think that I would crawl out

438
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 3: of it. And that's when I know I met you, Jenna.

439
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 3: It was like a month or two two months after,

440
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 3: just right after it happened.

441
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 1: And you were almost considered not even going to Brava

442
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 1: Kanu or not.

443
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 3: They didn't want they didn't want me to go okay,

444
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,480
Speaker 3: and I convinced them I don't want to hide behind

445
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 3: a rock. I want to address this head on, which

446
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,639
Speaker 3: is so and so take accountability for what happened. And

447
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 3: I'm again like I say this all the time. There's

448
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 3: not a day that goes by where I don't we

449
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 3: live that day and thank God that I didn't hurt anyone.

450
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 3: You know, I've learned so much about myself and I'm

451
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 3: in a good place. So if I don't get that partner, uh,

452
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 3: and I spend the rest of my life visiting my

453
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 3: three girls and their future families, I'm good.

454
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 2: Oh no, no way to manifest when you get that partner.

455
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: When not, it's like no, no, all positive.

456
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,400
Speaker 3: You know what I like? I as the new year hit,

457
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 3: I said, I want to I'm going to focus continue

458
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 3: to focus on me and to make for me to

459
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 3: feel comfortable in my own skin and feel comfortable being

460
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,639
Speaker 3: on my own. It's a big deal for me.

461
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 1: So do you like being alone?

462
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 3: I didn't before, but it's kind of sometimes it's kind.

463
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: Of nice, welcomed. Sometimes I love being alone. No, I

464
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 1: think that that's also part of what the good stuff

465
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: that comes from aging is like, right, I love.

466
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 2: On yourself to be spend time with yourself. Yeah, but

467
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,479
Speaker 2: you know, I've not necessarily alone. It's like loving yourself

468
00:21:59,520 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 2: to like.

469
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,239
Speaker 1: It's like not having anybody to answer to get out

470
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: of here. Even my kids like there gone by. I

471
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: like to just like have the house do my thing

472
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 1: on my schedule.

473
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll sleep in like, oh, I don't have to

474
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 3: get out.

475
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 1: Or answer to anyone, and nobody's looking at you saying

476
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,880
Speaker 1: why are you sleeping inso late?

477
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: Or so? Who did you get along with the best?

478
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: Was it Giselle, Jazelle.

479
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 3: And Ashley? All of them?

480
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

481
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 3: Really all of them, but Gizelle and actually have known

482
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 3: each other for years and they have this relationship. So

483
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 3: I think that of all the women, I spent most

484
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,239
Speaker 3: most of my time with Luinn, but I love all

485
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 3: all the girls.

486
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,199
Speaker 1: You just had to, Yeah, you had. There's something. There

487
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: was a great energy between the four of you, and

488
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,640
Speaker 1: it was devoid of housewives, which was really really cool.

489
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 1: Nobody was trying to get anybody, nobody was right. Everybody

490
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 1: just seemed to me at least, like it was just

491
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: love and support.

492
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 2: And I'm actually glad that you and Luanne spent a

493
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 2: lot of time together and got a long while because

494
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 2: she is such a great wingman and she's such a

495
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 2: great cheerleader as well.

496
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,959
Speaker 1: She is I'm sure she is all of that, but

497
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: we are. I'm sorry what is going on with her

498
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: what's with the ring? Shannon?

499
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 2: I don't know.

500
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: Come on, come on now, I'm going to see her later.

501
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: This I can't take it. I have to know the

502
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: group chats going.

503
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 2: I have this this Real Housewives group chat. Isn't she

504
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,879
Speaker 2: on it? So?

505
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 1: What is going on? Sad?

506
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 2: I love the ring? It's a stunner.

507
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: Well, Shannon is not going to tell me. You're going

508
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: to tell me.

509
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: Crickets after that? I just like, I love that ring.

510
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: It's beautiful.

511
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 3: No, okay, all right, I don't know she's not engaged.

512
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: I mean it would it would have been like Sarah Page.

513
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: It would have been like great pr for the show. Right,

514
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 1: she's all of a sudden wearing a ring. I mean

515
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: if I was me and I hadn't watched the show

516
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: and I saw Lwayne walking around with the ring, I

517
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: would immediately tune in, right right? I mean it's smart.

518
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: But I love the one guy that.

519
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 3: She I forget Mark Mark.

520
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yes, Mark, very sweet, funny yeah from New

521
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: York to tell us so one with that? Yes?

522
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: Okay, So I was with Mark last night and he

523
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 3: told me that he asked you, what an aw date? Kelly?

524
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: He did?

525
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 3: Excuse me?

526
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: Actually, that's incorrect. I took Lewande's advice, and Luanne told

527
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 2: me she goes Kelly Darling, when you're going to a

528
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: bar and you see a lot of gorgeous men, write

529
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: down in the note a little question and send it

530
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: with the bartender. So I was like, okay, So I

531
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: did it, and it was Mark. He comes, get the

532
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: hell out of here, like literally one hundred percent.

533
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 3: He went out a couple of times.

534
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: He went at once he came over, he came over

535
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 2: to me. We were talking and then he's like, yeah,

536
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: I'm on Love Hotel. I have, you know, a bevy

537
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 2: of children. I lived, and I'm in real estate and

538
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 2: my house is pink. And he's a very funny guy

539
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: on the show. Just like, what are you doing?

540
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: Jesus, Well, here's a problem. Also now that he's like,

541
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: by the way, another spoiler alert here and now and

542
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: he's gone out with Kelly. We didn't work out with

543
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: leu Anne.

544
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well next week it'll be pretty clear.

545
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So whenever those airs, well.

546
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: Wait, don't tell me, don't tell me. I'm like, I'm

547
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: so invested in he is.

548
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: So he's so funny though, when he that couch and

549
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 3: said I'm back, and then yes, I love it.

550
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: It was it was so adorable.

551
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: What about when he goes in an interview, They're like,

552
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 2: what do you think of Andy Cohen? He goes, who's

553
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: Andy Cohen?

554
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: Oh?

555
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 3: He says, the broker, Oh my god, the.

556
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: Broker, outfit, the whole thing like that, but he has

557
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 2: great hair.

558
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: What about you?

559
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: And we're friends and you know I I will tell you.

560
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: You saved him though you brought him back.

561
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 3: I did, and I'm the one that gave James the key.

562
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 3: Thank you man. She because right now in the show,

563
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 3: she and James are enjoying each.

564
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 2: Listen, I love Luanne so much, like literally, I am

565
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: her rider die. But when that she and James saying,

566
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm just like, no, you.

567
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: Guys, what was it? The one liner? Love love Hotel,

568
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: Love hotel? You know that's showing up on our cabare

569
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: when I'm in a bad mood. By the way, if

570
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: I'm this is true, why can.

571
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: We not sing?

572
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: Well? I don't know what is going on, what the

573
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: tune was, but I will tell you that when I'm

574
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: in a bad mood, and that it is oftentimes that

575
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: I am, I will pick up my phone and I

576
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: will go to TikTok and I will search Luannella sept

577
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: and watch her do that cabaret and everything is right

578
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: in the world when I see her.

579
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: I love what I'm getting. When I were getting ready,

580
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: I always do like it's the Countess speaking.

581
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: I was telling we did that, TikTok.

582
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: We did?

583
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: We did?

584
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: We did?

585
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: I love watching her do that. Yes, anyway, we even

586
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: though my name is Kelly, So okay, moving on, we

587
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: have diverted, Let's talk about Uh, I'm having fun. I

588
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: always I know it.

589
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: Actually I can just sit here and talk about I

590
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: know what I know.

591
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: I know, I know it so well. Kelly, I actually

592
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: want you to take this question right now because we

593
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: already spoke about you and Mark, and there seems to

594
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: be something in your life that I know nothing about.

595
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: And I heard vaguely about something this morning, and I'd

596
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: like to get to it and maybe you could discuss

597
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: it with Shannon's. You ain't discussing it with me.

598
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 2: Jen's like I didn't get the tea, So I again,

599
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 2: you know what. I just saw you in the green

600
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: room and I was just saying, like I just I

601
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 2: was very impressed by you, and I just thought that

602
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 2: you not only handled yourself well, but you are you

603
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 2: have grace. You have a lot of grace.

604
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: Thank you.

605
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know that, but you do,

606
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: because it seems like you don't, but you do well.

607
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I'm humble, Like I'm not good with compliments,

608
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: you know, but.

609
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 2: So it's like humble on a smoke show. Which way.

610
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 3: No, but I'm not, I'm not good.

611
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: I just you you have grace, you have a lot

612
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: of grace.

613
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for you. That's a big deal for

614
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: me to say thank you, because I.

615
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: Just you want to deny it.

616
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 3: There's and don't want to deny it. But I just

617
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: don't want to be like.

618
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: It's hard to be a big shot like oh yes.

619
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah I am. No, I'm not going to say that.

620
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you do.

621
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: That also makes you stand apart in terms of housewives.

622
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: Oh, I can't tell you how many times I just

623
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 3: said it to Sarah today, which I had the ego,

624
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: you me both of some of these.

625
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: Give me both kids. Yeah, Kelly, you're not out of

626
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: the hot seat going.

627
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think again, just like that's one reason why,

628
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 2: like I think I didn't think that I personally am

629
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 2: very invested in your narrative because and I do feel

630
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: like you. I mean this, I do feel like you're

631
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: very strong, main character energy because of the things that

632
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: you've gone through and the way you're handling things and

633
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: the way you're moving forward. Just like the little things

634
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 2: you said, like at the top when we talked about

635
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: like relationship versus dating, just like the way that you

636
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: speak about things has it has you know, very a

637
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: very strong like underpinning of grace, which is beautiful. So

638
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: I recently have you, I've been single. I the reason

639
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: that I'm on this podcast is because I called off

640
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: my wedding four days for us. Remember, there was there

641
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 2: was there was a pre nup situation. There were some

642
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: other situations. Uh, and I just was like, I'm not

643
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: doing that. Fortunately, I haven't seen him, heard from him, nothing,

644
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 2: which is so great. I literally was like Galley, which

645
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: is amazing, and I'm actually really grateful for that. I

646
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: I miss his mother, but I don't miss him.

647
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: But that's a first I did.

648
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: I loved his mother. Oh my god, she was beautiful,

649
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: because I don't my parents are deceased. She was just

650
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: a beautiful human. So cut to on this podcast, I've

651
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: been really making a concerted effort to be in therapy

652
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: and also use the podcast as a way for me

653
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: to apply what I'm learning. So whether that's talking about relationships,

654
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: whether that's going on dates, whether that's having jen on

655
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: some of my days, and so, you know, I've been dating,

656
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: you know, I've been going out a lot of dates.

657
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: And I met someone who's amazing, who's a really really

658
00:29:53,720 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: great person. And I found out from a fan that

659
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: he was somewhere kissing a woman, not just kissing, but

660
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: making out with a woman. And it was really, really

661
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: really upsetting to me. How long, granted that we're just

662
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: in the early.

663
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: Stage, how many dates have you been on with him?

664
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: You know, I went with him to Miami. You know,

665
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: I've gone you know, a couple of many, you know,

666
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: like probably like ten dates.

667
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 3: What you went on a trip with him?

668
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: Yes, I want to trip with him. This was like

669
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: I went to f one with him a couple of

670
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: weeks ago. He's he's great.

671
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: When did you find out that this happened?

672
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: I found out last weekend during swim week, right before

673
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: I right before to.

674
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: Me, it wasn't bethany Well he did he did. He

675
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: did not get away from her and maybe Rachel you

676
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: just you tell Oh my god. Okay, but anyway, but.

677
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: Did you have a conversation about exclusivity?

678
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: Like, no, I don't know.

679
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: Does that happen?

680
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: It's just like I don't know.

681
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: Well, no, that's why I'm asking you. That's why I'm

682
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: trusting you. So I do not trust you too.

683
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't feel like you're on No, I don't.

684
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: But I was asking you what your thoughts are.

685
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I see that is so hurtful. I'm

686
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: super sensitive, but I'm very sensitive. That's bye bye.

687
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: Plus, I've been in like relationship after relationship. I mean,

688
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: every single man I've ever dated has cheated on me

689
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 2: except for one.

690
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this, and.

691
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: They're open about They're like, oh, I just cheated on you.

692
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's nice for you. Oh, here's a picture

693
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: of me with this girl. That's so nice.

694
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: Are you kidding?

695
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, guys are awful with me. I'm like you,

696
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: it's just okay.

697
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: So you obviously started him. You obviously confronted him.

698
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: I confronted him and I said, I said, I just

699
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: want to be careful because you know, I don't know

700
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: what's going on. I don't do like, you know, it's.

701
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 1: Very magnanimous of you.

702
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: You and her, like I don't do that. I don't

703
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: you know, if you want to be with her, you

704
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: should be with her, Like I was very I'm an adult, like.

705
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: Did you know who the girl was? No?

706
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 2: Okay, no idea?

707
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: And what did he say?

708
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: And he just is like really upset, really really to upset,

709
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: really really upset. But you know, the thing is too,

710
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: is that like dating, you know, there's there's two questions.

711
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: So first of all the advice of like what I

712
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 2: should do, But the second question is how do you

713
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: navigate being on a show, of being well known and

714
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: navigating this brave new world of dating with these fans

715
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: who are incredibly loyal to me, who are just so

716
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 2: lovely and have my back, like you can't go anywhere

717
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: because there's going to be somebody and it's not you know,

718
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: we don't just have female fans. We have male fans too,

719
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 2: by the way, and a lot of guys are always like, hey,

720
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 2: that guy's not good for you, Like I don't know.

721
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: That also happened to me I had a fan or

722
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: a friend. I don't like to call them fans because

723
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: it sounds super disingenuous. But you know a friend who

724
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: literally said, I know who that person is. That person's

725
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: not a good person, not this guy, another guy.

726
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: So I was just like, you have but kel you

727
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: know what, I'm not sure the answer, because yes, I

728
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: understand ten dates. There's a lot of dates you went

729
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: away with him. Maybe exclusivity is implied. Having said that,

730
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: I think that there is probably under the umbrella. Well,

731
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: we never spoke about being exclusive, so it was a

732
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: one time whatever. Maybe I don't know.

733
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: I never called to my boyfriend. I never like you think, well,

734
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 3: I will just say that the one difference that I

735
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 3: had with a couple of the Gala's Unloved Hotel is

736
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: that like they will be intimate with a man just

737
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 3: to be intimate. For me, it's about the person, it's

738
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 3: about that connection. So like, I don't I won't just

739
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: have sex to have sex like that.

740
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: Do you think that's my because I won't either.

741
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 2: I won't either.

742
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: So that's my if if you're intimate, was if I'm

743
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: intimate with someone, And so I don't know if you

744
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: went there, but then we're you're not seeing anybody that's interesting?

745
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I yeah, because and They all were like,

746
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: I wasn't an age thing because I think Luanne felt

747
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: more free in that area. And yeah, I mean.

748
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 2: Was kissing both guy well.

749
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: But then she also freaked out when the one guy

750
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: had his arms around Cynthia and that was not making out.

751
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: That was we're on you know, love hotel, right, so

752
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 1: obviously she felt like that was disrespectful when James.

753
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: When James, I thought that was weird. I was like,

754
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: get you get your hands off my friend, right, yeah,

755
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: and by the way, I was supposed to go, I

756
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: know Cynthia, Yeah, but I had to do something with iHeart, yeah,

757
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: which was so much fun too. But yes, luans like

758
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: you should have come, and I was like, oh so.

759
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, So what's the outcome? What happened with

760
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: the guy? Is he still alive.

761
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: Days ago trying to contact you?

762
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 2: Yes, sent me beautiful flower.

763
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: So he says him done with this girl? Was it?

764
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: Has he been dating her?

765
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: Did he just meet her exactly that day? What? Thank you?

766
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: He was drinking a lot and it may or may

767
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: not have been his ex fiancee.

768
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: Now, unfortunately, Kelly, I have to rethink the whole thing.

769
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 1: I thought it was like, you're going to say he

770
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: was wasted.

771
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 2: They were out this. Well, that's why I'm trying to

772
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: be the adult about it, because they were together and

773
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: I said to him, if you want to be together,

774
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: I support you, like I'm not going to get you

775
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: and I'm not going to get in the way of

776
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: someone that's not going to happen if you have a

777
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: connection with someone that's you know, I care about him. Yes,

778
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: I do have self respect.

779
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say now, you just threw up.

780
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: Plus, I've been like cheated on so many times. I'm

781
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: just like, what's what's different, Like, yeah, you know what,

782
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: I think, Wait, maybe we should do a show on

783
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: like all the cheaters together.

784
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 3: I think that okay, you knowing that he was with

785
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 3: someone and then that's okay.

786
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 2: I'm on Instagram on Instagram she was telling me this,

787
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: and it just was like I was like, oh my gosh.

788
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 3: I just feel like if you were to accept him

789
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: back and then you're a relationship, you're saying that's okay.

790
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: Listen, I have I was separated for a year and

791
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: a half. I don't know if you know this, but

792
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 1: there were infidelities in my marriage coming from both of us.

793
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: The first one was not for me having said that,

794
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: here we are today twenty five years later, twenty six.

795
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: I think we're twenty six. And I'm not saying that

796
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: an affair is not something or I believe personally that

797
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: it depends on the situation and sometimes you can. I'm

798
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: here to tell you move on. Things will change, and

799
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: they certainly did for my husband and I. But this

800
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: kind of thing, it's still so new. He's supposed to

801
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: be obsessed with you and only you.

802
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: So that's why when you were talking at the beginning

803
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 2: and I was like, I was like, oh my god,

804
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start to cry. That's why I'm like, I

805
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 2: want main character energy.

806
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: No you, no, bit, it's more main character energy than you.

807
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: Get the hell out of here.

808
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 2: Well, anyway, I just wanted to ask your thoughts.

809
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just like, Jenquar, how many how many years

810
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: were you married before seven?

811
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: It was the seven year itch? It was the cliche

812
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: of it all.

813
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 2: Okay, See, I've been divorced for fifteen and then I

814
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: dated this guy for two. Then I had to cut

815
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: that off because that was not good. That was not

816
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 2: good for me. And so now I'm like, oh my god,

817
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: is it again? Am I ever going to meet someone

818
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: who just like wants to be with me.

819
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 3: You know, when you're when when you try and when

820
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 3: you you know, start and give it your all and

821
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 3: it doesn't work out. That's why I got so upset

822
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: that Earle and I fought. I just felt like it

823
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 3: was ruining.

824
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: Everything because you were so impressed in it at this point, it's.

825
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 3: Like, oh wait, this is so great and what happened

826
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 3: Like now it's just blown up into this big ordeal

827
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 3: and it really upset me because it's like, just you know.

828
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: But you didn't get upset and talk about how upset

829
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: you were. You you pivoted and did something kind for

830
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: him and changed the narrative. And so that's one reason

831
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 2: why I also think that you're a great advice person giver,

832
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: because you know, and just like Jen was saying, it's like,

833
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: you know, you're so that you're saying it. It's like

834
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 2: just because there is no right way to have a relationship,

835
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: to have a marriage, there's no right way. There's no book,

836
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean, There's no like you know,

837
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: people don't have you know, there's a lot of ways

838
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 2: you can move in and out of that that license

839
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: if you.

840
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: Will although I will tell you that I have much

841
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: less patience now for friends of mine like at our

842
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: age ladies, and I think we're all about the same age.

843
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: Forgive me if you guys are younger than me, But

844
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 1: I feel like you got to be a little smarter.

845
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: You got to sort of see things in a different

846
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: way that you did, like like, oh, you know, I

847
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: mean you have to be And I'm not saying you

848
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: have to be defensive, and I'm not saying that you

849
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 1: have to overthink everything, but there are not like Kelly.

850
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: This to me is a perfect example. If I that

851
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: happened to me and I was let's say I was

852
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: crazy about a guy when I was twenty five and

853
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: he had done that, I would let it go. In

854
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: about two seconds. I would convince myself and everyone around

855
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: me that it was that he fell into her mouth

856
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: like that. That would be like the narric because I wouldn't.

857
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: I would just feel that desperation and not enough you know,

858
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: self worth to say wait a second, your ex fiancee

859
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: to get the fuck out of here. I think now,

860
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: I hope now I've come a long way from that

861
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: at age fifty six, and I feel like you guys,

862
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: we would we have to be a little smarter.

863
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 3: Now, well, I'm sixty one, so if suprating when look

864
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 3: at her, Like, when I do a relationship, I have

865
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 3: to know that it is the right relationship because I

866
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 3: got one more shot. You know, I'm not gonna I it,

867
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 3: just I have to know. So that's not a good

868
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: way to start.

869
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: When you look back at your other relationships, Like do

870
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: you see things now, I don't know if we're geting,

871
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: we're not even the names, but do you see that

872
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: there were warning signs that you.

873
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: Importantly right from the get really but by the way,

874
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: like you know, to your point, I'm saying, by the way,

875
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 2: to your point. So I'm like, don't have to say anything,

876
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: uh no, But to your point, when you do something,

877
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: you set a precedence like okay, I'm doing this. If

878
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 2: you let me get away with it's like a kid,

879
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: it's like you're you. I didn't say no, I'm gonna

880
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: let you do it. That they're going to keep doing

881
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: it over again again in different ways. Yeah, they're not

882
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: going to be doing maybe the same thing, but they're

883
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: going to do things similar ways. And you know, I'm

884
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: not like I'm not like, oh my god, here are

885
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,479
Speaker 2: the rules. I just feel like you should just.

886
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: Know, right. But the good thing, if you want to

887
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: call it good, the positive that is coming out of

888
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 3: this you're the fan reaching out to you and telling

889
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 3: you about this ten date guy, is that you've found

890
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 3: out now. Yeah, you know, because if you if you

891
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 3: meet someone who's a stranger, I think it takes a

892
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: good two years to get to know somebody, to truly

893
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: get to know who they are, So you know, you

894
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: can nip that in the butt.

895
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: But maybe I'm just too open. Maybe I'm just too

896
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: but maybe honestly, maybe it's.

897
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: Beginning now it's z ex fiance, so like Kelly, you

898
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: don't need that.

899
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: But then what about the other guy that I was

900
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: that you know, it was like we had to get married,

901
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: he had to get engaged, he had to do all

902
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: these things, Like what is it about not them? What

903
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 2: is it about me that I'm longing? I don't have

904
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: my main character, grace Shanon.

905
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what you mean whether they want to

906
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 1: lock you down, what do you mean?

907
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 2: Yes, they're like, okay, you now good? You want that

908
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 2: je you can't pull me. I may or may not

909
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: be wearing extensions like please do not I.

910
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: Wish I hope that continues for you and for Shannon. Yeah,

911
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: I mean I like for them to want to lock

912
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: you guys.

913
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: I would like take charge person.

914
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: Well, not calling me and saying like we're getting married tomorrow.

915
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: But guess what. You're strong enough at this point you're

916
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: like to say, guess what, No, we're not getting married tomorrow.

917
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: And that's the maybe you would have been, you know,

918
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: a different person when you were even in your forties.

919
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: Like listen, it's like a high school musical song, strong.

920
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: You all, Yeah, don't ever do that again, please, I

921
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: beg of you.

922
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: Everyone can sing, no, not everyone. Yes, anyway, everyone's a singer.

923
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: All right, you guys, So all right, So anyway, Shannon, like,

924
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: just is there any takeaway from love hotality advice you

925
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: want to give to our listeners in terms of, like

926
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: you put yourself out there again? And which is I

927
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: think you know that's the gift of you. But anything

928
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: you'd want to you know impart.

929
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: Well, I just think that as far as dating goes it,

930
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 3: you should be vulnerable and you should be honest. Like

931
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 3: I was criticized a bit for like why are you

932
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: telling everybody that you got a duy because it's part

933
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: of me. Let's just get it out of the way.

934
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 3: I love that.

935
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: I just love that. That is the key, I think

936
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: one of the keys to being successful in housewives. Also,

937
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: you got to own your you can't.

938
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 2: But it's interesting because I was raised to like not talk.

939
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: Oh now, you don't talk about anything. Everything's fine, everything's perfect,

940
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: it's all great news.

941
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: You know.

942
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: Oh, you want to hear the good news. That's like

943
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: my father would say, I want to hear the good news.

944
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: Want to hear the great news. It was always great, great, good, good,

945
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: good good. There was no bad. There's something Oh my god,

946
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: that's that's no, no, no, no, we don't talk about that.

947
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

948
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: I actually sat down with Earle and I brought him

949
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: up to my room and I played him clips from

950
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: the Real Housewives of Orange County Cool so he would

951
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 3: have kind of an understanding of there's the door shon door.

952
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

953
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 3: I showed him that scene and he was like, you've

954
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: got to be kidding me.

955
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: Well, that wasn't embarrassing for you.

956
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 2: That was just funny.

957
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but I but I showed him that and

958
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 3: a couple others, and you know, he kind of got

959
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 3: it a little bit. It was just so refreshing for

960
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: us to have the men not like none of them

961
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 3: had seen the House I shows before, so that was

962
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: really nice that they were getting to know us for us,

963
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: you know, is it?

964
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: The guys were great. The guys were really great.

965
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: I really hope. I don't know what. I know. You're

966
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: not going to tell me, but I was still waiting

967
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: on the last episode. I really hope you, guys, even

968
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: if it's not romantic, end up, like you know, being

969
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: friends and having some relationship because I loved I did

970
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: really grow to love the two of you together.

971
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: I can't wait.

972
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: Very sweet.

973
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 3: I will say that there is one of the ladies

974
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: of the four that is still dating someone Lunne.

975
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: Holy shit, you heard it here first. No, I know

976
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 1: they're all nodding there.

977
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: No, No, don't know, just say wrong to figure it out.

978
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: I could figure it out, Shannon. I would like to

979
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: to be you, Jelle.

980
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: I love, I love.

981
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying to read her eyes, you guys.

982
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: But she, Shannon is an ice queen.

983
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: God, she's not letting it go.

984
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 3: I know.

985
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: Tell us, tell us, tell us, it's just too strong.

986
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: We can't break her all right? Three more?

987
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: Wait, I have to ask one more question. I have

988
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: to one more question. Kissing on camera and how was that?

989
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 3: You know what? Like at a certain point, you know,

990
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 3: you just forget that microphone is on your back and

991
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 3: that you've got cameras. I forgot that they have those

992
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 3: robotic cameras in the room so early. And I did

993
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: have like a little makeout session, but I don't think.

994
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 3: I don't think i've seen it yet.

995
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't seen it. I don't remember see it. I do,

996
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: and I remember very well the makeout sessions because I

997
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: can't stand on TV when you hear the noises. I'm sorry.

998
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: I love Ashley, but he was like the I was like,

999
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: oh my god.

1000
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: I was like, right, the one lizard kissing or something.

1001
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1002
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, yeah, nothing alse him.

1003
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: He's very good God, no, no, he's he is very

1004
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: good looking. But just like the yeah, I'll be like,

1005
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: oh my god, you scare me.

1006
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: If you're with Ashley Darby, you're gonna oh too.

1007
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 2: It's hard not to maybe do something else with maybe

1008
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 2: not with the volume.

1009
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: I don't know. It is funny because after my first

1010
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: date with Earle, we were at the elevators and you're

1011
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: not supposed to be alone, you know, not on camera,

1012
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: and he kissed me and we got in a little

1013
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 3: bit trouble. Yeah, because it wasn't on camera. Wow.

1014
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: Well I love that you did it off camera though.

1015
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: That's cool. Take yeah, take charge, Take charge all right? Guys?

1016
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: Well, we love you.

1017
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: We love you, guys.

1018
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: Amazing.

1019
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: Are you like Shannon and ready to open yourself up

1020
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 2: to love again after divorce? We can help you point

1021
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,319
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1022
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