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Speaker 1: How are we doing today? Gentlemen doing will? Sir? How

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Speaker 1: are you doing good?

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Speaker 4: Just got finished listening to Jerry Jones on one O

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Speaker 4: five through the fan. A couple of talking points out

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Speaker 4: of that couple of things to highlight.

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Speaker 7: We'll start Clue me in.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to start with.

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Speaker 8: Running backs, you start clude out. I don't think you're

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Speaker 8: ever clued out.

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Speaker 7: I didn't listen this morning.

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Speaker 1: Oh then you clued out.

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Speaker 4: We get we got you covered. Got the one thing

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Speaker 4: that or the number one thing that I thought stuck

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Speaker 4: out to me was And it was a phenomenal question

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Speaker 4: from Bobby.

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Speaker 1: Bobby Belt asked it on one O five through the Fan.

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Speaker 4: And he was asking, does the significant injuries to guys

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Speaker 4: like DeMarcus Lawrence, Michael Parsons, de Ron Bland, does that

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Speaker 4: change the way that you evaluate a head coach going

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Speaker 4: into his final year of the contract, which is I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's the fact of what my party is facing here

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Speaker 4: is his final year of his contract. And Jerry's answer

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Speaker 4: was intriguing in the fact that he basically said, if anything,

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Speaker 4: it helps the evaluation.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't give him a pass.

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Speaker 4: He said, it's a part of the game as much

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Speaker 4: as a kickoff is. He said, there's no pass whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: If anything, you either are you aren't. We've got to

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Speaker 4: move forward depending on whatever's best for this football.

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Speaker 8: It was interesting answer, but then my interpretation of it

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Speaker 8: made it make sense, because you want your coach is

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Speaker 8: an approve it year and what you don't want is

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Speaker 8: to lose any of your talent to injury.

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Speaker 1: You just don't want that. Period. But the sun is

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Speaker 1: going to rise.

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Speaker 8: In the west instead of the east rising the sets.

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Speaker 7: In the west.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 8: See clue out when you look at it from that capacity,

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Speaker 8: it's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: It's inevitable, like thanos.

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Speaker 8: And you want to see how your coach handles that

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Speaker 8: level of adversity, right, And this is when you talk

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Speaker 8: about injuries.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Cowboys have had injuries before.

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Speaker 8: They had they lost Trevon Diggs, but then they had

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Speaker 8: Stefan Gilmore who was fortuitously here, right, And that's just

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Speaker 8: So I mean it's you're about to find out exactly

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Speaker 8: not just the kind of coach you have when things

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Speaker 8: start going wrong on the health and injury front. How

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Speaker 8: can he manage this roster? And you know, then the

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Speaker 8: question becomes, as Jerry was, as are the Cowboys want

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I wish they would flip the two.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what we were.

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Speaker 7: Just talking about yesterday, Like you wish they would flip that.

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Speaker 1: I wish they would flip it.

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Speaker 9: And at least for me, it's saying, Okay, michaelccarthy, how

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Speaker 9: do you respond He's going push your tee on im.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, how do you respond to this?

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Speaker 9: And if it's not well and you you miss the

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Speaker 9: next two games without Micah and you miss, you lose

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Speaker 9: the next two games without those two. I feel like

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Speaker 9: the coaching his the seats will not just be hot,

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, infra red hot. Ye see

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Speaker 7: I just wanted to fit another push reference.

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Speaker 1: Now that's good, but.

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Speaker 8: It's one one hand has to watch the other as well,

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Speaker 8: because a coach is going to be tasked with making

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Speaker 8: the current roster as great as it can be. But

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Speaker 8: roster building and your willingness to go into free agency

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Speaker 8: when it's time, you know, subjectively when it's time to

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Speaker 8: a trade when you have two star edge rushers go down.

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Speaker 1: Things like that.

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Speaker 8: I mean, that's going to lend to what the ceiling

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Speaker 8: to make that roster as great as it can be.

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Speaker 8: So both of those things have to work in simpatico.

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Speaker 8: And that's kind of where I'm standing with it.

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Speaker 7: Well, Mike Zimmers even said it yesterday.

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Speaker 9: He was talking about how important depth is to a defense,

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Speaker 1: In my own this is the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Especially is gonna win a few games without that receiver.

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Speaker 4: she Rice. They're gonna be playing Taylor Swift at wide receiver.

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Speaker 8: And they might and they'll probably end up making a

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Speaker 8: tree to They'll do supplement the loss.

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Speaker 7: They will do something about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So I think the pass is off the table.

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Speaker 4: At least that's the way I interpreted it from Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 4: But I also looked at it as Okay, this is

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Speaker 4: a tough schedule. We've talked about that multiple times on

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Speaker 4: are your next six games. It does not get much

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Speaker 4: So even without those guys, you have zero excuse going

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Speaker 4: If you can right the ship, it gives an opportunity.

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Speaker 4: It could go one way or the other. Of course,

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Speaker 4: everybody's got their own expectations, but if it goes right

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Speaker 4: for you, then all of a sudden, I think we

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Speaker 4: value this coaching staff a little bit better than what

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Speaker 1: Three straight twelve win seasons.

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Speaker 4: The way that Mike McCarthy has led in the regular season,

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Speaker 4: it to a certain extents have been undervalued because of.

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Speaker 1: The lack of postseason success.

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Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, that's what he

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Speaker 4: was hired to do, was have postseason success. So I

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Speaker 4: get the criticism there. The way that they respond without

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Speaker 4: oiled this machine is.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you.

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Speaker 8: If you can win, if you're a Formula one driver,

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Speaker 8: everybody's applauding because you podium, and as it should be,

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Speaker 8: because that's extremely difficult to do, especially consistently, right shouts

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Speaker 1: Or fifteen laps, or your car is not.

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Speaker 8: Your car is not very good, and you're you're pushing

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Speaker 8: that not very good car past cars that are mechanically

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Speaker 8: superior to yours that particular race, then it's that much

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Speaker 8: more value to your point. So if the Cowboys and

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Speaker 8: Mike McCarthy can get through this stretch and after what

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Speaker 8: we sawget now it's a week the weekly, but the lines.

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Speaker 8: If you can get past this stretch the Steelers on

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Speaker 8: the road, the lines are coming. You're not playing well

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Speaker 8: at home. And you saw what the lines just did

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Speaker 8: two flat tires right now in the absence of DeMarcus Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: And we'll see how how long.

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Speaker 4: We're talking like front, left, front, right, back, right, not

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Speaker 4: steers one steer okay, one steer one.

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Speaker 8: Micah is a steer, okay, right, But good news is

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Speaker 8: is he's still weak the week, so he may may

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Speaker 8: only miss the Steelers cause you do that so fast, sterity,

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Speaker 8: So yeah, Michael may only miss the Steelers game. Across

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Speaker 8: all the fingers toes in your eyes. So you might

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Speaker 8: be just without one tire, and then it's a matter

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Speaker 8: out replacement tires and hope they can get you through

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Speaker 8: the rest of the race, because thankfully it's not the entirety.

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Speaker 1: Of the races.

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Speaker 8: You just got to get through these next six or

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Speaker 8: seven laps. Yeah, you know what, I like it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I don't.

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Speaker 9: I don't know, man, I think, especially after that Lion's

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Speaker 9: performance yesterday, I'm just not looking forward to the schedule.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick the Lions next week. I'm telling you that, right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's too.

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Speaker 4: I don't care if the Cowboys beat the Steelers by

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Speaker 4: forty I'm still proud.

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Speaker 9: It's still way that they're built. It's the way that

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Speaker 1: He hates that Micah.

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Speaker 8: And tank her down, but you have to love that.

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Speaker 8: This is this is your opportunity as an athlete. You say, hey,

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Speaker 8: My problem with Chauncey Gooston hasn't been with Chauncey Golston.

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Speaker 8: But that's not a knock on him. I can say that.

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Speaker 7: The sample sizes isn't there.

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Speaker 4: They kept Chauncey Golson around even without the production, even

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Speaker 4: Do I think he holds as much weight and pressure

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Speaker 4: he contribute absolutely, and I think they'll see him rotate

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Speaker 8: You're going to have to get a maverick involved here

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Speaker 8: So Tyros Wheat he's on the roster because he's done

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Speaker 8: It might be Tyres Wheat. Maybe you go like Jerry said,

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Speaker 4: I think you gotta add another It's hired to pull

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Speaker 4: a half tackles for lost in each of the last

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Speaker 4: three years. Could could improve upon his play strength and

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Speaker 4: his ability to anchor. However, when setting the edge, he's

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Speaker 4: strong enough and has some length in order to push

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Speaker 4: the boundaries of setting the edge. So yeah, better run

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Speaker 4: stopper than he was a pass pass rusher. And that's

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Speaker 4: the scouting report from college last time, that he's been

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Speaker 9: And with Mazzi coming up coming into coming to fruition

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Speaker 9: recipe for Yeah, we're not trying to accept expectations here necessarily.

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Speaker 7: Sure, it's something to look.

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Speaker 8: Out for, but it goes to what Kyle was asking

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Speaker 8: yesterday and that you know, what kind of pressure does

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Speaker 8: this put on the linebackers, because now you have to

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Speaker 8: in the past rush yeah, or maybe you don't run

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Speaker 8: three linebackers, maybe you want run three safeties and Donovan

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Speaker 8: When he's in, it's definitely a blitz type of thing.

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Speaker 8: But see then that becomes predictable. Right, so the challenge

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Speaker 4: eight eight five five two two nine seven Mike in

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Speaker 4: New York is our first caller online. Mike, what's going on,

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Speaker 4: my man?

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Guys. I was happy you guys got

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Speaker 3: your gift on it. I know you guys definitely definitely enjoyed.

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Speaker 3: It was awesome to see obviously watching you guys open

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Speaker 3: and stuff them. Obviously, I hope you guys obviously enjoyed it.

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Speaker 3: That's I know, it's nothing like get something, Oh man.

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Speaker 3: I know it's a little different, but so I know

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Speaker 3: you guys obviously enjoyed that. But more to the cowboys,

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Speaker 3: I think cowboys wish to wish to be a little

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Speaker 3: more disciplined on with the flags. I feel like it's

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Speaker 3: killing us. Man, it's been going on for I don't

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Speaker 3: understand with all these penalties.

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Speaker 4: That's a great point, Mike. Yeah, we love the the

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Speaker 4: hand carved block. I mean, that was really cool. We

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Speaker 4: put it back in Beamer's office. Josh has it displayed

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Speaker 4: up in the desk so that way, it's close to

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Speaker 4: our show every day.

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Speaker 1: So we really imaginated displayed.

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Speaker 4: But uh, let's talk about the penalties. I think that

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Speaker 4: is a great point, Mike. Thanks for the call. As always,

539
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Speaker 4: the penalties are concerning and and Jerry was asked about

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Speaker 4: that this morning as well, and he kind of said,

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Speaker 4: he was like, we got to find a way to negate.

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Speaker 1: Those holding calls.

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Speaker 4: He's like, But other than that, I think Tyler Giton's

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Speaker 4: been a he called him an excellent rookie. I think

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Speaker 4: there's still more to be desired with Tyler Goyiton, which

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Speaker 4: is in turn leading to the holding penalties.

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Speaker 9: No, of course, and it doesn't help when Tyler Gritton's

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Speaker 9: calling out the refs for not being good. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 9: that's not great because now the microscope is on him.

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Speaker 9: John Gotti, John Gotti, Yes, yes, yes, yes. I just

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Speaker 9: think that at least with Tyler Goyiton, we kind of

552
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Speaker 9: knew this coming in. We knew the sample size early on.

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Speaker 9: You give them some time, man, the ceiling is there.

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Speaker 9: And then if you look at the Jets, you look

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Speaker 9: at Tyron Smith on the Jets like it's I don't know, man,

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Speaker 9: and I hate to say it. I don't want to

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Speaker 9: be disparager or anything like that, but he doesn't look

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Speaker 9: like the same Tyron Smith. No, So if you'd rather

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Speaker 9: have that at the cap that you're going to get

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Speaker 9: hit with for Tyron Smith as opposed to a Tyler

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Speaker 9: Goyiton that would have to sit this year year behind Tyrons.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, man, I'm all.

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Speaker 9: For taking that rookie, letting him develop on the field,

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Speaker 9: getting those reps in good or bad.

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Speaker 7: I think mostly good.

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Speaker 4: Tyron allowed a sack and two pressures in their game

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Speaker 4: against the he did Broncos, and what an ugly game

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Speaker 4: that was.

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Speaker 8: They got to get the penalties, and this is a

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Speaker 8: state and the obvious of course they got to get

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Speaker 8: the penalties in hand. I mean, you had thirteen penalties

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Speaker 8: for over one hundred yards against the Ravens. You're not

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Speaker 8: just guying you had as a team. You had eleven

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Speaker 8: penalties for just under ninety yards against the Giants. And

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Speaker 8: keep in mind, these don't include the penalties that were declined.

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Speaker 8: These are only the accepted penalties.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 8: And the other mic, the mic from Dallas spoke yesterday

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Speaker 8: about what they need to learn from September going into October,

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Speaker 8: and he drew a circle around penalties and this is

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Speaker 8: his quote. He said, and quote, we've way too many

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Speaker 8: third down penalties, way too many red zone penalties, A

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Speaker 8: couple of two minute penalties that affects scoring. It affects

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Speaker 8: the opportunity for the offense to have the ball more,

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Speaker 8: and that affects the defense being on the field longer.

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Speaker 1: End quote.

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Speaker 8: So that is definitely a point of inphasis emphasis for

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys and Mike McCarthy going into October. They just

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Speaker 8: have to figure out a way to clean it up.

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Speaker 8: And let's be fair, not all of those penalties are righteous,

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Speaker 8: but the ones that are righteous shouldn't be happening, uh,

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Speaker 8: to the frequency that they are happening. So when you

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Speaker 8: talk about a guy like Tyler Gout, and I don't

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Speaker 8: want to single out Tyler Guyton because other guys are

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Speaker 8: committing penalties as well. They're you know, when you get

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Speaker 8: false starts on the drive and it's just like how

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Speaker 8: you know the snap count? Okay, when you're lining up

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Speaker 8: off sides, you're like, you know, all you got to

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Speaker 8: do is look, yeah, right to the to the to

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Speaker 8: the side, yeah, and you see where the ball is.

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Speaker 1: Back up, those types of.

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Speaker 8: Small discipline things, And I think that harkens back to

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Speaker 8: like what a guy like Jordan Lewis said last week

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Speaker 8: before the Giants game when he was like details, details, details, details,

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Speaker 8: refine your details. But if the Cowboys don't finally, finally,

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Speaker 8: and I'm with Mike from New York on this one,

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Speaker 8: they don't finally get a handle on these penalties because

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Speaker 8: it's something that's been haunting them for seasons now. It's

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Speaker 8: going to eventually be the thing, excuse me, one of

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Speaker 8: the things that continues to bite them in the back.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: And I feel like every year when we get to

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Speaker 4: the playoffs, since something does go wrong, which at least

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Speaker 4: has been inevitable recently, it's usually a red flag from

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Speaker 4: the season and the two losses to San Francisco.

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Speaker 7: Underneath Mike McCarthy, it was.

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Speaker 4: Penalties, it was turnovers, it was run defense, it was

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Speaker 4: all these different things.

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Speaker 1: Last year against.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, shoot, the last year it was penalties and run

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Speaker 4: defense against Green Bay. I mean, it's all these things

622
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 4: that have kind of lingered.

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Speaker 9: Penalties have been very consistent in the Mike McCarthy era.

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Speaker 1: Look at it from this point.

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Speaker 8: I pulled up my game chart from the Ravens Okay

626
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 8: Cowboys opening drive. Right, so Cowboys took the ball first.

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Speaker 8: On the Cowboys opening drive first, you get a penalty

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Speaker 8: holding to Cavante Turpin ten yards. Okay, you're working against

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Speaker 8: yourself now you get down the field a little bit.

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Speaker 8: Penalty second and nine, holding defense that was on the Ravens,

631
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 8: the QB conversion by Dak Prescott on second and seven

632
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 8: that was turned into a first down false start on

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Speaker 8: Brevin span four. That was the drive where you had

634
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 8: a false start on or penalty on both of your

635
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Speaker 8: tight ends, Brevon span four and Jake Ferguson. So I

636
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 8: sell that to say it's not only Tyler Guiden. It's

637
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Speaker 8: happening across the board, even with names that you wouldn't

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00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 8: normally hear, like a Jake Ferguson. Right, So Jake didn't,

639
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 8: if I'm not mistaken, he didn't have any penalties against

640
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 8: the Giants, and they were ones that argue it should

641
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Speaker 8: have been a holding.

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Speaker 1: I didn't see that. It was a bang bang play.

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Speaker 1: Let's play football right on that touchdown.

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Speaker 8: But bottom line is you can't have these types of

645
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 8: penalties killing drives. Because that drive I'm talking about the

646
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Speaker 8: opening Cowboys drive. You know how it resulted against the

647
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Speaker 8: Ravens in a punt YEP, that's what happens that drive.

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Speaker 1: That's what happens.

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Speaker 4: Lee in Dallas is on the line, Lee, what's on

650
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Speaker 4: your mind? Thanks for calling.

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Speaker 12: Hey, good morning, guys, Thanks for having me. There's been

652
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Speaker 12: a lot of talking this offensive line and how the

653
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Speaker 12: struggles are and Tyler Goidens having a hard time, you know,

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Speaker 12: transitioning to left tackle, and Terrence Steel's having a hard

655
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Speaker 12: time at right tackle coming back from injuries or whatever

656
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Speaker 12: in the season, and it just feels to me, when

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Speaker 12: is there a time where we start talking about and thinking, well,

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Speaker 12: Tyler Goyiton was a right tackle, his transition to left

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Speaker 12: tackle has been a struggle. When do we start thinking

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Speaker 12: about putting him back at right tackle if Terren Steel

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Speaker 12: isn't playing any better. They talk about getting the best

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Speaker 12: five on the field, that's their priority. I think one

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Speaker 12: of their best five linemens on the bench in TJ.

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Speaker 3: Bass.

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Speaker 12: You've got a guy that has spent a season at

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Speaker 12: left tackle proven that he's you know, a great player

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Speaker 12: at it almost pro bowl level in Tyler Smith. And

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Speaker 12: I've thought this from before the season. My starting offensive

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Speaker 12: line would be Tyler Smith at left tackle, PJ Batts

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Speaker 12: at left guard, Cooper BB at center, Zach Martin at

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Speaker 12: right guard, and Tyler at right tackle.

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Speaker 4: Interesting, Okay, Lee, I appreciate the call as always and

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Speaker 4: I think he's got a point. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: it's a point for twenty twenty four. And I've actually

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Speaker 4: thought about this too, because Tyler Goiden was much better

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Speaker 4: as a right tackle in college and what he was

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Speaker 4: able to do. It's a transition period, and Josh you

678
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 4: pointed that out just a couple moments ago. There's going

679
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Speaker 4: to be a learning curve. We're four games into this

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Speaker 4: guy's career. I don't want to completely upend his future

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Speaker 4: of what could be your left tackle of the future

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Speaker 4: just because of a couple holding calls.

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Speaker 1: And a couple of bad games.

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Speaker 4: So not yet. I don't know if it's out of

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Speaker 4: the question though, because this is another draft class that

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Speaker 4: as heavy at left tackle. You could draft again. I

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Speaker 4: don't know how many times in a row they're gonna

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Speaker 4: have to draft a tackle in the first round of

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Speaker 4: the d NFL Draft. You can't do that every year.

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Speaker 4: But I don't think it's out of the conversation to

691
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Speaker 4: move guys around. I just think it's out of the

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Speaker 4: conversation for twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 8: I'll tell you what part of that is out of

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Speaker 8: the conversation entirely. For Mike McCarthy, Tyler Smith is not

695
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 8: moving to left tackle. Tyler Smith is not moving to left.

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Speaker 4: See and I agree with that with a part of

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Speaker 4: this would be adding another piece, adding a left tackle

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Speaker 4: to your roster. If you've got an all pro at

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Speaker 4: any of the offensive line possessions that keep him there.

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Speaker 1: Correct, do not move.

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Speaker 7: He's an All Pro.

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Speaker 1: That's the only that's the only flaw, maybe.

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Speaker 4: But I don't want to risk it. I don't want

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Speaker 4: to mess with it.

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Speaker 9: Is one of the only consistent things on your offensive line.

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Speaker 9: The only consistent guys on your offensive line would be

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Speaker 9: Tyler Smith, Cooper BB at the moment, and Zach Martin,

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Speaker 9: which is you know, arguable at this point, at this

709
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Speaker 9: point in time, Tyler Smith has been the most solid

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Speaker 9: player on.

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Speaker 1: The office be offensive lineman right now, close.

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Speaker 7: And he's at left guard.

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Speaker 1: Keep him there, keep him there.

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Speaker 8: So that for me, that's the only flaw. I see

715
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Speaker 8: the logic and the reason in Lee's argument.

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Speaker 1: I see it.

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Speaker 7: That's fine.

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Speaker 8: But that's that's the flaw, you know, or that's the

719
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Speaker 8: fly in your honey there is that they're not moving

720
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Speaker 8: Tyler Smith to left tackle. So as far as maybe

721
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Speaker 8: twenty five and beyond, let's see, because again, this is

722
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Speaker 8: four games in and it's so early in this young

723
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Speaker 8: man's career to write him off as not having the

724
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Speaker 8: ability to develop and be your future at left tackle,

725
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Speaker 8: just as it's it's difficult to to say, Okay, four

726
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 8: games in, let's rite off Terrence Steele.

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Speaker 1: Let's let this thing play out. Let's let it play out.

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Speaker 8: I'm open to the conversation, not with a Tyler Smith

729
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Speaker 8: to left tackle, because no, but let's let this play out,

730
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Speaker 8: and let's let's have this conversation again in March.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think Lee is discounting Tyler Guyton.

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Speaker 1: As a player he kept. No. No, He's saying that

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Speaker 1: he just wants him to fit and he's here believe.

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Speaker 8: That he developed better as a starting right tackle than

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Speaker 8: left tackle, which could very well could be. But what

736
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Speaker 8: I'm saying the counterpoint is, and not that I'm disagreeing,

737
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Speaker 8: the counterpoint is that it's only four games in.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I said, let's let this play.

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Speaker 8: Out, and then I'm wildly open to having the conversation

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Speaker 8: revisiting this in the off season and after we have

741
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Speaker 8: an entire season.

742
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Speaker 1: I think you need to get us.

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Speaker 7: Where that that was exactly.

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Speaker 9: It then to your point about just like if if

745
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Speaker 9: you do it now, I think that's just a disservice

746
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Speaker 9: to the entire offensive, the whole offensive line, the offensive

747
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 9: line as a whole, the chemistry that they've had, the

748
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Speaker 9: reps of that shake up.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people would say, Oh, this isn't Madden, right, Like,

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Speaker 4: this isn't Madden. I don't think this is a Madden idea.

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Speaker 4: I think it's just trying.

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Speaker 1: To fit the pieces in the discussion. No, I like it.

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Speaker 4: Good, good discussion, Lee, good question. We're going to take

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Speaker 1: Hey?

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Speaker 15: Going on?

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Speaker 1: Guys? How we doing doing well?

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Speaker 15: Sir?

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Speaker 1: How were you all right? All right?

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Speaker 15: So I saw something cool or I guess not cool,

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Speaker 15: actually kind of disturbing this morning.

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Speaker 4: I was looking at what a swing?

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Speaker 15: This could go a lot of ways? Right, I'm.

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Speaker 1: I'm scared.

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Speaker 15: So against the Giants. Dak Prestoll was looking at his

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Speaker 15: catching chart and only five out of the twenty seven

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Speaker 15: pass and tens went for more than ten yards or

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Speaker 15: travel more than ten yards. Only two travel more than

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Speaker 15: fifteen and going into the game, Uh, you know Dallas

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Speaker 15: face light boxes at the third high street. In the NFL,

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Speaker 15: Giants eyes are presented light boxes at the highest straight.

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Speaker 15: I haven't watched all all twenty two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I plan to do that today.

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Speaker 15: But my logical, guests, based on the historical data and

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Speaker 15: just the live watch, is that the Giants are sitting

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Speaker 15: back to I Safety is flogging a bunch of lanes

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Speaker 15: and people are complaining about you know, Brandon Cooch running

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Speaker 15: pitches and all these short routes and stuff, and uh,

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Speaker 15: it's all I think stems from the lack of a

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Speaker 15: ground game because teams are just sitting back and not

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Speaker 15: allowing us to push the ball down the field.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 15: So until Dallas can establish a consistent running attack against

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Speaker 15: light boxes and forced teams to put more guys in

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Speaker 15: the box, I think you're going to continue to see

836
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Speaker 15: Dallas run these short routes.

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Speaker 4: Completely agree, Completely agree, I think. And I've watched the

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Speaker 4: all twenty two from Thursday already and a lot of

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Speaker 4: too high a lot of too high shell, which of

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Speaker 4: course mel Kiper hates now apparently.

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Speaker 1: I think that's so silly, that's dumb.

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Speaker 4: The big run the football if you if you want

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Speaker 4: to ban the too high shell, be the Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 4: be the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 1: Force him in to say within issue, got into buck.

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Speaker 4: Run the ball, And I agree. I think part of

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Speaker 4: Dalvin or not Dalvin Cooks Brandon Cook's struggles has been

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Speaker 4: because one the separation isn't there from other wide receivers.

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Speaker 4: So a lot of people are saying, okay, if jayaln Tolvert,

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Speaker 4: Cavante Turpin and all these other guys aren't getting any separation.

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Speaker 4: Then we've got to cover CD, we've got to cover Cooks,

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Speaker 4: we've got to cover Ferguson, and we should be good

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Speaker 4: because they're not going to run the ball. There's no

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Speaker 4: threat outside of those three guys on this offense. And

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Speaker 4: right now you can even x out number three, you

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Speaker 4: can x out Brandon Cooks and at that equation, because

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Speaker 4: you can't run the ball, you're gonna see light boxes,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna see hefty coverage, and it's going to be

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Speaker 4: more for this team to decipher through.

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Speaker 7: And that's tough.

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Speaker 9: That's tough for a guy like Dak Prescott who was

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Speaker 9: having to throw these tight window throws just to get completion,

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Speaker 9: just to find somebody, just to find somebody, he's got

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Speaker 9: to throw a perfect pass each and every time. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: he's not gonna have a Jared Goff like game where

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Speaker 9: he goes eighteen for eighteen, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 9: It's crazy to me that, uh, the running game is

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Speaker 9: with the running backs that you have. Like granted this,

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Speaker 9: we talked about it before the season started. Yeah, Zeke

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Speaker 9: is not the same Zeke. No, that's no question. It's

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Speaker 9: not rookie Zeke. But that is a serviceable running back.

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Speaker 9: The fact that we cannot get the ground game running

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Speaker 9: with Zeke anybody, anybody, with anybody, it's it's concerning, it's so.

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Speaker 1: What So then where's Delvin?

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Speaker 8: That was going to be my next question and that

876
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Speaker 8: Jerry Jones conversation to the forefront of your mind where

877
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Speaker 8: you asked sad him instead of Brandon Cooks.

878
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: So the question is where's Delvin?

879
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 8: Where is so number one sensational take by Dylan Apps

880
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 8: a freaking loly Oh they got those ball? Yeah, you

881
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 8: got You gotta run the ball if you want to

882
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 8: defeat the two high safeties, because you need one of

883
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 8: those guys to drop down and make a heavier box.

884
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Speaker 8: And if you can't run the ball, then you got

885
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Speaker 8: to deal with that. And it's a lot of underneath

886
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 8: because even the two touchdowns from Ceedee Lamb, there was

887
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Speaker 8: a shot at one earlier in the season it with miscommunication,

888
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 8: but that aside, he took that underneath a frozen rope

889
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 8: through a keyhole from Dak Prescott and Ceedee Lamb made

890
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 8: both of those touchdowns. Happened after because that was middle

891
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 8: deep turned into a deep deep touchdown. But where's Delvin

892
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Speaker 8: Jerry Jones this morning on one oh five three, the

893
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 8: fan said, quote unquote, probably not this week, not this

894
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Speaker 8: Dalvin Cook.

895
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Speaker 1: Last week.

896
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Speaker 8: It wasn't because it was not going to happen because

897
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Speaker 8: per Jerry Jones, short week the week before. It's because

898
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Speaker 8: small sample size with Zeke and Rico w induce and

899
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Speaker 8: they're still trying to figure some things out. Well, now

900
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Speaker 8: you're going into a long week. You got four games

901
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 8: in and Mike McCarthy himself said yesterday, you know who

902
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 8: you are after four weeks. Okay, Well, if you know

903
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 8: who you are after four weeks, then you know that

904
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Speaker 8: you might need some kind of juice injected into the

905
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Speaker 8: rushing attack.

906
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Speaker 4: You're bad at running the football.

907
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Speaker 8: Yeah, John said, it's not it's for those that are asking,

908
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 8: Jerry said, it's not a physical thing with Delvin Cook,

909
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 8: they said he looks good. And I can attest to

910
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 8: this in the aspect of those that I've spoken with

911
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 8: coaches and other players, they are saying the same thing.

912
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Speaker 8: They're saying Delvin looks good. They're saying his feet are quick,

913
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 8: they're saying he looks great out there in practice. So

914
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Speaker 8: then that just again begs the question, where is Dalvin

915
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 8: Cook and when, if ever, this season, when do you

916
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 8: elevate him?

917
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 4: Jerry's answer today, and like you said, he gave some

918
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 4: reasoning behind it. He was talking about looking at the

919
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: season as a whole, and we haven't run the football

920
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 4: a whole lot the last couple of weeks, which is.

921
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Speaker 1: To a certain extent true.

922
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 4: I mean, Rico Dowdell was utilized more than anybody this

923
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 4: past Thursday, and Zeke only saw ten offensive snaps. Ten

924
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 4: Rico looks fine. Honestly, I think Rico is your RB

925
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 4: one right now. That's a separate conversation right now, that's

926
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 4: a separate conversation. But Dalvin Cook specifically, they said, we

927
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 4: want to utilize him when we're going to utilize him best,

928
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 4: because he's coming off with the practice squad. You can

929
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 4: elevate these guys only so many times. Do you feel

930
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 4: like that plays any factor into it? Because I feel

931
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 4: like if you wanted to just elevate the guy and

932
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 4: he plays well, good sign him. If he doesn't play well,

933
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 4: then maybe you push it.

934
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: Back to squad.

935
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, you get you kind of push it down the line.

936
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 4: I don't know if delaying his first call up is

937
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 4: enough to say what's not utilize him.

938
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Speaker 8: I think the bigger issue is you remember we had

939
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 8: this conversation Isaiah included you bring up Dalvin Cook and

940
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 8: who is made inactive?

941
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 4: I mean, he only had ten offensive snaps, I would say,

942
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 4: and Zeke you would say, I would absolutely.

943
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 8: Based on how they're using Zeke, you would think so yeah,

944
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 8: But do you realistically think they're going to make Zeken active?

945
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: Probably not. And that's for me.

946
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 8: That's where delvin's' that's the thing because if you bring

947
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 8: up Dalvin Cook, but you don't want to make Zeke inactive.

948
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 8: And this Rico is not in this conversation because Rico

949
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 8: is continuing to improve as as he as RB one

950
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 8: right now. So this is for me, is Dalvin Cook

951
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 8: versus Rico versus deuce yea question because Hunter Lickey he's

952
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 8: not in the carversation either. He's finally getting more utilization.

953
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 8: So the question becomes, if you bring up Dalvin Cook,

954
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 8: are you making duce and active for that game, which

955
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 8: is probably supposed to be your change of pace back

956
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 8: or is it Zeke which creates a redundancy because Zeke

957
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 8: and Dalvin Cook are more or less the same guy.

958
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 9: I mean, to your point, I'd love to see Hunter

959
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 9: lip Key with actual RB one carries like I would

960
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 9: love to see him take those snaps.

961
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: Also another conversation, he's been great.

962
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 9: It's totally separate, but it's like, what does he look

963
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 9: like running the football, Because as far as like utility backs,

964
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 9: I think he has everything that you're really looking for

965
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 9: right now. He can push a pile and he's also

966
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 9: catching out of the backfield, and he's pass blocking.

967
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 4: It's not out of the question to say Hunter Lipke

968
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 4: is your third most effective player on offense right now,

969
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 4: behind CD and Jake Ferguson. Name a guy other than

970
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 4: lip Key who's had maybe not the stats I think,

971
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 4: but I'm talking about effective thinking.

972
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: I think it's Rico. And the reason I said I

973
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: think it is Rico is because.

974
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Speaker 4: That maybe he's a bait.

975
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, I see what you're saying.

976
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's more production, but also it's it's commensurate with

977
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 8: more opportunities. So if you I think if lip Key

978
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 8: gets those opportunities, is correlated that way, and you say

979
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 8: it's per opportunity, now you're talking efficiency per opportunity. That

980
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 8: was most efficient, third more third most efficient player on

981
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 8: offense I'm not productive because he hasn't had that touches

982
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 8: the third most efficient player on offense.

983
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 4: I think it's hunder lip so. I yeah, when it

984
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 4: comes to Dalvin Cook, I think there needs to be

985
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 4: a conversation.

986
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: I think there needs to.

987
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 4: Be an added emphasis to try and shake up the

988
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 4: running back room. Whatever you're doing right now isn't working.

989
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 4: It's not working running the football. Try something different, try

990
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 4: it out. See what happens.

991
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, and if it doesn't work, he drops back to

992
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 8: the practice squad and no harm, no foul, no harm,

993
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 8: no foul.

994
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: You figure it out for the following week. We'll see.

995
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: We'll see.

996
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 4: It's not gonna happen this week. Apparently it doesn't look

997
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 4: to be the case. All right, that's gonna do it

998
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Speaker 4: for us here on talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Hope you had some fun with us.

1000
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 4: Tomorrow, we will have the whole crew back in the building.

1001
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 4: We're gonna have Isaiah stand back back and we will

1002
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 4: get you started on the preview of this matchup with

1003
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 4: the Steelers.

1004
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: What a historic.

1005
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 4: Rivalry this, Oh my god, eleven Lombardi trophies, Oh yeah,

1006
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 4: you got a lot going on.

1007
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: And battles in the seventies man. Yeah, seventies nineties.

1008
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 4: Relevant, I remember those the last every like yesterday. Yeah,

1009
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 4: every matchup since the turn of the century has been

1010
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 4: a one score game.

1011
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: Every single matchup.

1012
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 4: They don't play it a whole lot, but every single

1013
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 4: game has been a one score affair CARDI I think

1014
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 4: you could see the exact same thing happening on Sunday.

1015
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 4: But tomorrow we're going to preview the Dallas defensive matchup

1016
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 4: going up against Justin Fields or Russell Wilson at quarterback

1017
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 4: with George Pickens, Pat Friar mused, and a couple of

1018
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 4: these other guys on the offense couple flat tires to

1019
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 4: see how they ad just In doing so for Chris Beam,

1020
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 4: Josh Rodriguez, Patrick No c walker around, Kyle Yeoman saying

1021
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 4: so long from Talking Cowboys, will you tomorrow. This has

1022
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 4: been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and the Dallas

1023
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 4: Cowboys Football Club.