Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. How does a mild mannered
Speaker 1: orthodonis end up dead? And so called death by Mercedes.
Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I Nancy Grace, this is
Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at
Speaker 1: Fox Nation and Sirius XM one eleven. First of all,
Speaker 1: let's take a listen to Unraveled. Soon after landing her
Speaker 1: job at a clinic in Houston, she meets thirty two
Speaker 1: year old orthodontists David Harris. Start, I've been here about
Speaker 1: a month. This is in my dream being accepted. He
Speaker 1: was amazing. Claris said they were both very, very dedicated
Speaker 1: to the practice of their professions. From originally born and
Speaker 1: raised here in Texas, in the Austin area. Where'd you
Speaker 1: come from from Colombia? Wow. She found him to be
Speaker 1: a man who was kind, gentle, loving, hard working anyway, cheers, welcome,
Speaker 1: thank you, good to meet you. All of the qualities.
Speaker 1: So she was looking for everyone loved David Harris. He
Speaker 1: was from a very good family. He was well liked
Speaker 1: in his church and in his community. He did a
Speaker 1: great job in his business, and he was very kind
Speaker 1: to everyone. Well, it's not to love kind, loving, mild mannered,
Speaker 1: hard worker educated. So how does a mild mannered or
Speaker 1: to do us, beloved in his community and church end
Speaker 1: up dead like he's a speed bump on the highway. Again,
Speaker 1: thank you for being with us, with me an all
Speaker 1: star panel to break it down and put it back
Speaker 1: together again. You were just hearing the voices of Clara
Speaker 1: and David Harris in a welcome video with me to
Speaker 1: analyze it all. Judge and trial lawyer, Court TV anchor
Speaker 1: Ashley Wilcot at Ashley Wilcot dot com, fornown psychoanalyst joining
Speaker 1: me out of Beverly Hills, doctor Bethany Marshall and doctor
Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall dot com, Founder director of the Cold Case
Speaker 1: Research Institute, Forensics expert Cheryl McCollum, doctor Chris Sperry, former
Speaker 1: chief medical Examiner for the entire State of Georgia, lead
Speaker 1: news anchor for w DBO Ray Kaputo. But first to
Speaker 1: Bobby Bosha, private investigator with the Blue Moon Investigations with
Speaker 1: a very intimate connection to this. To you, Bobby Bosha,
Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. We were just hearing
Speaker 1: a welcome video including Clara and David Harris. Now David
Speaker 1: is an orthodonis, Clara is a dentist. Correct. What is
Speaker 1: a welcome video? What is that? I'm a welcome video.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's just where they're they're getting together and
Speaker 1: meeting each other. They had just met at a clinic
Speaker 1: in Houston. Tell me about how the two of them
Speaker 1: end up meeting, Bobby Bosha. From what I understand, Clara
Speaker 1: started taking working at I think it was called Castle
Speaker 1: Dental and or and learning to She was going there
Speaker 1: like apprenticing to become a dentist. And I believe David
Speaker 1: Harris was working there, and that's how they met. I
Speaker 1: also heard there's another way that they met. Is it
Speaker 1: originally maybe? And maybe he helped her get a job
Speaker 1: here at the Castle. Vidal is that she was in
Speaker 1: the beauty contest of Miss Columbia Houston and she won
Speaker 1: that contest. He was there and that's another way that
Speaker 1: they met. Okay, hold on, let me analyze what Bobby Botch,
Speaker 1: a private eye with Blue Moon Investigations, just told me
Speaker 1: to you, doctor Bethany Marshall, you're the shrink, not me,
Speaker 1: But what does strutting in a swimsuit? Not judging? Don't
Speaker 1: care have to do with your ability to run a
Speaker 1: dental practice. A very good question. Does it never end
Speaker 1: with men? And I've been accused of being a man hater.
Speaker 1: That is so not true. I love my husband David
Speaker 1: and my son John David so much. I'm not a
Speaker 1: man hater. But doctor Bethany Marshall, what is it like, Oh,
Speaker 1: there goes something shiny, let me grab it. I mean,
Speaker 1: he sees her in a beauty contest and bam, there
Speaker 1: she is up in his life. Well, it does tell
Speaker 1: me that there was a very idealized beginning to this relationship.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of passion, a lot of strong emotions,
Speaker 1: very strong sense of sexuality. He's very attracted to hers.
Speaker 1: She was up on a stage and a swimsuit. So
Speaker 1: there was a lot of adoration going on at the beginning,
Speaker 1: like a mutual love fest. And when there is that
Speaker 1: much adoration at the beginning, I always worry in a
Speaker 1: marital or a romantic relationship if somebody who's been put
Speaker 1: on a pedestal is going to be knocked right back
Speaker 1: down again. Idealization always leads to the evaluation. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever talked to a couple where
Speaker 1: all they say is positive things about each other and
Speaker 1: there's never one negative thing that comes out of their mouths,
Speaker 1: And you think, too, there has to be something bad somewhere.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, maybe he has bad breath in
Speaker 1: the morning, or maybe you know you don't like the
Speaker 1: way he makes the bed or something. But if there's
Speaker 1: only adoration, then I become very suspicious that there's a
Speaker 1: dark side for the relationship that's not being adequately processed
Speaker 1: or analyzed, and that there's going to be a shoote
Speaker 1: conflict on down the road. Guys, we're talking about how
Speaker 1: a mild manner orthodonist David Harris ends up as a
Speaker 1: human speed bump in a parking lot dead. How did
Speaker 1: he meet his wife, Clara, No doubt about it. A
Speaker 1: real beauty and with smarts as well. She goes on
Speaker 1: to become a dentist. Take a listen to Unraveled. She's
Speaker 1: a tall woman, she's strikingly beautiful. I think that had
Speaker 1: a strong effect on David Arison making a great team.
Speaker 1: He's a beautiful woman's a great future looking forward. Clara
Speaker 1: confides in David that she was a beauty queen back
Speaker 1: in Columbia, so David encourages her to enter a local
Speaker 1: pageant in Houston. David's support and personal ambition soon convinced
Speaker 1: Clara that he's the man she's been searching for. I
Speaker 1: believe that she must have figured that with the marriage
Speaker 1: to a man like that, that she could really have
Speaker 1: a perfect life, totally different sort of life than the
Speaker 1: one that she came from after the death of her father.
Speaker 1: Their courtship was rather quick. They married on Valentine's Day
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety two. In her eyes, she had the
Speaker 1: perfect marriage and the perfect relationship. And Clara bows who
Speaker 1: she'll always be his perfect wife. She seemed to adore David,
Speaker 1: and she took a subservient position in most matters to
Speaker 1: his wishes and desires. To Ray Kaputo, lead news anchor
Speaker 1: Orlando News w DBO, Ray Kaputo, what can you tell
Speaker 1: me about their lifestyle? Where did they live? What happened?
Speaker 1: He falls in love with her Caesar in a beauty contest.
Speaker 1: She's also a dentist, he's an orthodonist. Match made in heaven.
Speaker 1: So then what happened? Well, Nancy, I mean, this is
Speaker 1: a couple who appeared to have it all. They live
Speaker 1: in Friendswood, Texas, at a suburb southeast of Houston upscale
Speaker 1: million dollar homes. In fact, CNN Money ranked at one
Speaker 1: of the of the best places to live the one
Speaker 1: hundred Places to Live. I mean, it's a beautiful place.
Speaker 1: And they go on and they start a family. David
Speaker 1: already has a daughter. They actually have a couple of twins,
Speaker 1: just like you, and everything appears to be great. So
Speaker 1: he already has a daughter, Lindsay from a previous relationship
Speaker 1: that two of them have boy twins. Guys. Speaking of Lindsay,
Speaker 1: take a listen to Sharon Martin. Clara's sensitive nature soon
Speaker 1: rekindled the relationship between David and his daughter, Lindsay. Father
Speaker 1: and daughter had had little contact since his divorced from
Speaker 1: Lindsay's mother in nineteen ninety one, but Clara believed it
Speaker 1: was important for David to spend time with her. Clara
Speaker 1: really got attached to Lindsay very early on David's first child,
Speaker 1: because when Clara and David met, Lindsay was something like
Speaker 1: three years old. Clara was the reason that Lindsay was
Speaker 1: David's life. He had not had a relationship with Lindsay
Speaker 1: until Clara came into his life and said you need
Speaker 1: to have a relationship with your daughter. And Clara didn't
Speaker 1: just add Lindsay back into David's life. In September of
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, Clara gave birth to twin boys, Brian
Speaker 1: and Bradley. That rock their world. That was the bow
Speaker 1: on the package. I mean, they had this great life,
Speaker 1: their future look totally Bryan, do you actually Wilcott judge
Speaker 1: and trial lawyer COURTV anchor who deals a lot with
Speaker 1: JEVENI all issues. When a step mom comes in, very
Speaker 1: often that changes the entire scenario. What absolutely does the
Speaker 1: entire family dynamic. And what's interesting to hear in this
Speaker 1: case is that the stepdaughter and the stepmother got close.
Speaker 1: That doesn't always happen. I often see step parent come
Speaker 1: into a home dynamic and the children are not forging
Speaker 1: a good relationship with the step parent. Of a stepparent
Speaker 1: may not be loving and adoring to that child. But
Speaker 1: this case does not sound like that. It sounds like
Speaker 1: they really truly enjoyed each other and were building a
Speaker 1: great family together. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we
Speaker 1: are talking about how a mild mannered Orthodonnis David Harris
Speaker 1: ends up a human speed bump dead in a case
Speaker 1: we're calling death by Mercedes. These two had the perfect marriage,
Speaker 1: as it seemed on the outside, but then things went sideways.
Speaker 1: Take a listen to our friend Sharon Martin. David Harris
Speaker 1: and Gil Bridges would spend time had David and Clara's lakehouse.
Speaker 1: They would go to hotels. Certainly a favorite was the Hilton,
Speaker 1: the very same Hilton that was right next to the
Speaker 1: country club where the Harrises were married. Before long, the
Speaker 1: couple wasn't even trying to conceal the affect except from
Speaker 1: David's wife Clara and daughter Lindsay. But eventually word of
Speaker 1: her husband's associate made its way back to Clara, one
Speaker 1: of the ladies that was working at david Santel office,
Speaker 1: who took her out to dinner one night and told
Speaker 1: her that she needed to be aware that she may
Speaker 1: have a problem in her marriage and that she should
Speaker 1: address That was the first time that Clara really had
Speaker 1: an inclination that there was something seriously wrong. Clara told
Speaker 1: David's sixteen year old daughter Lindsay. Lindsay, who always felt
Speaker 1: close to Clara, immediately took her side. Then, on the
Speaker 1: morning of Wednesday, July seventeenth, two thousand and two, Clara
Speaker 1: confronted David about Gail. David admitted to the affair. Did
Speaker 1: he not even care enough to try to lie his
Speaker 1: way out of it for Pete's sake? Or was he
Speaker 1: just busted red handed? Doctor Bethany Marshall Psycho Alice joining
Speaker 1: me out of Beverly Hills at dtor Bethany Marshall dot com.
Speaker 1: What you know? I always remember reading the actual paper,
Speaker 1: the actual paper growing up. The first thing I would
Speaker 1: read as a little girl, in a teen into college
Speaker 1: was Dear Abbey, And people would always say, I know
Speaker 1: my friend's husband's having a fairy. Should I tell her?
Speaker 1: Abby always said x nay on the ab blake, don't blab,
Speaker 1: don't say a word, stay an, let them work it out.
Speaker 1: For all you know, she may already know. Jump in,
Speaker 1: you're the shrink. I'm just a lawyer. I agree with
Speaker 1: you and Hanny's Abbey. If you know your best friend, okay, well, okay,
Speaker 1: I agree with Abby. If your best friend's husband's having
Speaker 1: an affair, you don't need to tell your friend because
Speaker 1: your friends should already know on some level when there's
Speaker 1: trouble in paradise. Both people know about it. I think
Speaker 1: that there was trouble brewing in this marriage. I mean,
Speaker 1: if he was having an affair, there would be unexplained absences.
Speaker 1: There would be, you know, charges on credit cards. There
Speaker 1: were good, great bathony. You think I get through David's charges.
Speaker 1: I tried to read his computer one time. I told
Speaker 1: you what happened. My eyes started bleeding. It was so boring.
Speaker 1: Let me just say my eyes dried up. That's even
Speaker 1: more boring than bleeding. I'm not gonna look through his
Speaker 1: credit cards. And yes, sometimes to say bye in the morning,
Speaker 1: I don't hear from him till supper time. You know what.
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's okay with me. But why would I
Speaker 1: rance that rubble through his uh credit cards? I mean,
Speaker 1: why would you suspect? But we also don't know about
Speaker 1: Clara's character. We don't know if she had a personality
Speaker 1: oh here you go. Don't know if she's Larry imagining
Speaker 1: all of these mental illnesses on people. Why would she
Speaker 1: suspect her husband? You know what? Hold on, Hold on,
Speaker 1: Bobby Bosh, your private investigator, Blue Moon Investigations. Clara Harris
Speaker 1: actually hired Blue Moon to follow her husband. So that's
Speaker 1: really going out alone when you're willing to part with
Speaker 1: money to because you're so suspicious of your husband. What
Speaker 1: about this woman taking her out to whatever it was, dinner, lunch, coffee,
Speaker 1: is saying you have a problem. That was her, basically
Speaker 1: the woman who took her out or actually they worked
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know this. They worked in
Speaker 1: separate clinics. Clara worked about forty five minutes from her
Speaker 1: house at David worked right in town. Clara worked out
Speaker 1: of the Clute, Texas office, and David worked out the
Speaker 1: clear Lake office. The Clute was more of like your
Speaker 1: every poor families. You know, she's probably there to help
Speaker 1: the poor, and David's doing all the high paying clients
Speaker 1: with the insurance and the clear Lake office. Well, now
Speaker 1: wait a minute, wait a minute, who wait? Right, she's
Speaker 1: a dentist. He's an orthodonist. Right, she's a dentist. He's
Speaker 1: an orthosode. He put in the I don't know that
Speaker 1: insurance covers orthodontia. Yeah, but I don't think it does.
Speaker 1: So he would be seeing people that could write a
Speaker 1: check for bryces, and she would be seeing people that
Speaker 1: involved insurance. I mean insurance medicaid all that. Yes, so okay,
Speaker 1: they were separate office. Now who's this woman this friend? Yes,
Speaker 1: this is a woman who worked in the office. And
Speaker 1: she basically was David's bookkeeper. And I don't have her name,
Speaker 1: so I'm sorry about that, and I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: she wanted revealed, but um, she basically was the bookkeeper. Um,
Speaker 1: when they hired the Claire always called the other woman
Speaker 1: the other woman. When they hire hired Gail m. Thompson,
Speaker 1: that was her maiden name, Bridges was her married name.
Speaker 1: But when they hired Gil Thompson, um this and trained
Speaker 1: Gale to work because Gale was a new divorcee and
Speaker 1: she had children or yes, and so they hired her
Speaker 1: and this woman trained her. But apparently, I'm David took
Speaker 1: interest in Gale right away. Gale very petite, totally opposite
Speaker 1: of Clara. Clara was very strong. She was a powerful woman.
Speaker 1: Clara dominated a contrary to what they were saying in
Speaker 1: that audio earlier, Clara was the dominant force in the marriage.
Speaker 1: And she's the one who picked the vacations. She's the
Speaker 1: one who picked what they did. She basically said everything,
Speaker 1: and David would jump and also Lindsay and her. Yes,
Speaker 1: she might have gotten David close to Lindsay in the beginning,
Speaker 1: but when Clara got pregnant, she had to go she
Speaker 1: because remember Clara had to go get pregnant. I think
Speaker 1: she had to get inseminated, you know, they had to.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly what they did, but she ended
Speaker 1: up with twins. As usually happens when you're trying to
Speaker 1: get pregnant, you might have twins, and so she had
Speaker 1: twin boys. After she had the twins, she basically kind
Speaker 1: of cut Lindsay out of the relationship with them. It
Speaker 1: was Clara and the boys. And from what I'm understanding,
Speaker 1: she would actually physically cut Lindsay out of pictures that
Speaker 1: put the boys and really didn't have a place for
Speaker 1: Lindsay to stay when she visited. So but Lindsay would
Speaker 1: visit for I believe. I think it was a mound
Speaker 1: or two months in the summer, and they would usually
Speaker 1: vacation together with friends affairs, and I think it was
Speaker 1: the Fondren Roberta and Mike Fondre. Mike Frondren worked for
Speaker 1: David for Clara Harris and the Clute Clinic as the
Speaker 1: driver and person who took care of her Mercedes from
Speaker 1: what I understand. But anyway, Clara basically worked at that
Speaker 1: other clinic. David worked at the clear Lake Clinic. And
Speaker 1: this woman that worked at the clear Lake Clinic is
Speaker 1: the one who parent We got jealous of the new
Speaker 1: hire Gil Thompson, and decided today she was watching him
Speaker 1: go to lunch together. It was all fine. Well, apparently
Speaker 1: you know, there was not a problem. And from what
Speaker 1: I understand, Gil said she would go to lunch with David.
Speaker 1: The whole office knew it. Everyone knew it. She said
Speaker 1: that David said it was an open marriage, that he
Speaker 1: was divorcing, and everyone knew it. And whoa, whoa wait, wait,
Speaker 1: how in the hey do we go? Doctor Chris Berry,
Speaker 1: former Chief Medical exam or State of Georgia. You and
Speaker 1: I would go to lunch together when we were I
Speaker 1: was prosecuting, and we had so many cases together, and
Speaker 1: we had a good time. You know, it was kind
Speaker 1: of a break from the Of course, all we talked
Speaker 1: about were dead bodies, but that was a good time.
Speaker 1: To me, what is wrong with having lunch with somebody
Speaker 1: you work with? It? How the hey? I mean, do
Speaker 1: you remember that doctor Sperry yeah, I remember. Those were
Speaker 1: some of the happy times in prosecuting when you could
Speaker 1: go out with a colleague or somebody that understood what
Speaker 1: you're talking about. That's hard to find in our line
Speaker 1: of business. Doctor sporting crime stories with Nancy Grace, guys
Speaker 1: were talking about an orthodonus ends up a human speed
Speaker 1: bump dead. We call it death by Mercedes. But doctor Bethany,
Speaker 1: you know they're good intentioned friends that will tell you
Speaker 1: your spouse is cheating and they think they're doing you
Speaker 1: a favor. And honestly, I mean, if David was cheating,
Speaker 1: I would want to know. I definitely would want to
Speaker 1: know so I could go ahead and kill them and
Speaker 1: be done with that. I didn't say that, but don't know, Bethany.
Speaker 1: So you're still sticking to your guns about don't tell,
Speaker 1: don't say anything. That's kind of hard to do right
Speaker 1: when you know something's happening. It's a very sticky situation
Speaker 1: to be in. I just think the unconscious is such
Speaker 1: a powerful thing, and if your spouse is cheating, you're
Speaker 1: going to know. Very rarely is a spouse Do you
Speaker 1: mean you're subconscious? Did I actually get to correct, doctor
Speaker 1: beth It's never happened in life. All that take. So
Speaker 1: you're saying, just give it to me by doctor, best
Speaker 1: analyze me. Yes, No, then your spouse is cheating. When
Speaker 1: a man is cheating, the wife tends to know. She
Speaker 1: may choose to not put her thoughts together about it.
Speaker 1: She may choose to sweep it under the carpet or tonight,
Speaker 1: to deny that it's happening. But when her friend takes
Speaker 1: her to lunch and says there's trouble in your marriage,
Speaker 1: your husband is cheating, all that denial goes right out
Speaker 1: the window. And that's what causes people to snap sometimes.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to say something about the husband saying
Speaker 1: that they were in an open relationship. I've been arrive
Speaker 1: at practice for almost thirty yrriage. I rearenactly what marriage says.
Speaker 1: That's always the man in the open marriage. The wife
Speaker 1: seemingly doesn't know anything about it, exactly. Only one person
Speaker 1: knew that the narrative or held his camerage him and
Speaker 1: his girlfriend. Okay, guys, take a listen to most evil
Speaker 1: Neil Dadge. Listen to this. When she confronts her, he
Speaker 1: admits to having an affair with his receptionist, Gail Clara
Speaker 1: is devastated. She makes David tell her everything about Gail's
Speaker 1: According to David, she is younger, more attractive, and caters
Speaker 1: to his niece. Clara takes notes during their conversation, comparing
Speaker 1: herself to Gail and writing down her own shortcomings. Willing
Speaker 1: to do anything to save their marriage, Clara joins a gym,
Speaker 1: has her nails and hair done, and goes to a
Speaker 1: tanning salon. She puts some money down at a plastic
Speaker 1: surgeons for a tummy tuck and breast augmentation. She even
Speaker 1: leaves her job to be more available for David's sexual desires. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me just let that sink in from say you
Speaker 1: leave your job. I can see that my peripheral vision.
Speaker 1: Jackie laughing into her fist. YEP, she is, Okay, did
Speaker 1: I get that right, Bobby Bosh? I probably an investigator,
Speaker 1: believe me an investigations. Clara Harris quits her job to
Speaker 1: be more sexually available to her husband, but they don't
Speaker 1: think they can't work around. I did not hear that
Speaker 1: she actually quit her job. She may have not gone
Speaker 1: to some days of her job, but she didn't actually quit.
Speaker 1: So when she came to us, it was in the
Speaker 1: afternoon after she got off of work. You know, she
Speaker 1: may have taken some days off that I don't think
Speaker 1: she quit her job, so she was actually still working,
Speaker 1: but she had taken days off. But Clara, actually, you
Speaker 1: know what an idiot David was. I mean, you would say, oh,
Speaker 1: your your feet are big, her feet are small, she
Speaker 1: has big yes to change her feet? Yeah, he said,
Speaker 1: she has pete petite, she has tiny feet and you
Speaker 1: have big feet. Um, she's small framed and we fit
Speaker 1: well together and you're big frames and we're awkward together. Um.
Speaker 1: She's got small, pretty little teeth and you've got big teeth. Um,
Speaker 1: how did you change your teeth? How do you change
Speaker 1: your feet? She's got big breasts and you have small breaths. Um,
Speaker 1: she's small, she's tiny, and you're heavy. So I think
Speaker 1: she was weighing probably like one eight five time she'd
Speaker 1: had twins, her beautiful bloody and had twins. Yeah. So um,
Speaker 1: so you know, so he was, you know, he was
Speaker 1: an idiot to admit it. But now also she made
Speaker 1: him do it. Well wait a minute, wait a minute.
Speaker 1: You know Ash Willcott, Jess and trial lawyer. Of course
Speaker 1: he'd the anchor I've seen mini meny divorces as part
Speaker 1: of criminal law that end in a felony, usually somebody
Speaker 1: taking a shot at somebody grounds for a divorce. You
Speaker 1: have big feet. You ever heard that? God, that's what it's.
Speaker 1: I've just been biting my tongue, Nancy, because I just
Speaker 1: starting to sing together. Now, Oh my gosh. Clearly, clearly,
Speaker 1: clearly there are bigger issues in this marriage, because all
Speaker 1: of these things he's coming up with, that he's making
Speaker 1: up just means that he has no interest in his
Speaker 1: wife and doesn't want to be married to her. Please.
Speaker 1: The other thing I have to say is, you know
Speaker 1: she was described as the dominant force in the marriage
Speaker 1: that David would jump when it doesn't justify his one
Speaker 1: out and having an affair. He doesn't even want to
Speaker 1: be with his wife, and he's coming up with all
Speaker 1: these little things about her. He doesn't even like. You know.
Speaker 1: Another thing I heard earlier that like, for instance, she
Speaker 1: would pick the vacation. That means nothing to me. I
Speaker 1: pick our vacations, where we're gonna go, how we're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. David works like a maniac. He really has
Speaker 1: his nose to the grindstone. If I didn't come up
Speaker 1: with a vacation plan. The whole thing. Go rent the RV.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't have a vacation. It's just that simple. So
Speaker 1: he couldn't care less where we go. He loves being
Speaker 1: with us. He goes willingly, but he doesn't stop and
Speaker 1: make a plan. I don't hold that against him because
Speaker 1: I like what I plan. So long story short, that
Speaker 1: means nothing to me about her being quote dominant, because
Speaker 1: she would pick vacations and other similar examples. But when
Speaker 1: she finds out about the affair, take a listen to
Speaker 1: our cut seven Sharon Martin. On July twenty three, Clara
Speaker 1: walked into the Blue Moon Detective Agency. She wanted us
Speaker 1: to get close and listen to conversations if we could,
Speaker 1: because she wanted to know what his plans were, and
Speaker 1: of course that he went to a hotel or anything
Speaker 1: like that. To document any adultery, because even though he
Speaker 1: had invest you still have to document the adultery. For
Speaker 1: court in Texas, everything is split fifty fifty. Unless she
Speaker 1: can prove adultery, you can ask for up to ninety
Speaker 1: percent of the assets. Blue Moon assigned an agent named
Speaker 1: Lucas to the case and a few days later, she
Speaker 1: checked back with the agency to see how things were going.
Speaker 1: Lucas finally called them back. He said, your case is
Speaker 1: going fine. They're at a hotel fourth or sixth floor.
Speaker 1: You'll get a full report tomorrow after noon. Clara knew
Speaker 1: just which hotel, and she wasn't going to wait until
Speaker 1: tomorrow afternoon to get a full report sixteen year old
Speaker 1: Lindsay in toe. Clara climbed into her Mercedes and headed
Speaker 1: down to the Hilton to confront David head On. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what I don't get. She grabs her husband's bio child,
Speaker 1: sixteen year old Lindsay and takes her to go confront
Speaker 1: her dad about having a fair I don't think I
Speaker 1: would take the children along on that particular joy ride.
Speaker 1: She also knows she's no idiot that in Texas there's
Speaker 1: a fifty fifty split of marital assets unless adultery has
Speaker 1: proven and the wrong spouse can get up to ninety
Speaker 1: percent of the assets. Wow, well you know what to do? You,
Speaker 1: Ray Ki Puto, lead anchor Orlando's Morning News, I mean, Dbo, Ray,
Speaker 1: they get to the hotel, what happens then, well, simply
Speaker 1: put Nancy clariflies into a rage. You know, she's got
Speaker 1: Lindsay with her. First thing she does is she goes
Speaker 1: up to Gal's navigator in the parking lot and she
Speaker 1: gets the windshield wipers and she bends the blades that
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the plastic part. We're talking about
Speaker 1: like the metal part that's really hard to bend. I mean,
Speaker 1: it just shows how angry she was, you know. And
Speaker 1: then from there she goes from the parking lot and
Speaker 1: messing with the suv, she storms upstairs into the lobby
Speaker 1: of the Hilton where presumably David and gall Or out
Speaker 1: when she's got Lindsay and toast still and you know,
Speaker 1: things just keep getting worse. Wow, crime stories with Nancy
Speaker 1: Grace guys and well loved and respected local orthodonist is
Speaker 1: victim to quote death by Mercedes and joining me right now.
Speaker 1: The private investigator who worked on the case, Bobby Basha,
Speaker 1: and as it happened to be, you guys apparently were
Speaker 1: there surveiling him. Is that correct? We were surveying David
Speaker 1: And obviously what was unknown to it, something that no
Speaker 1: one knew at the time, was Clara was, you know,
Speaker 1: so worried about not finding David that night that she
Speaker 1: actually asked the assistance that was worked with David that
Speaker 1: night to fallow him. Unknown to us, the assistant that
Speaker 1: told her about the affair. So when you said Clara
Speaker 1: flew into a rage and got into her car, she
Speaker 1: was already at the hotel when she called us wanting
Speaker 1: an update on the base. She knew the hotel. She knew, Wow,
Speaker 1: Well what did you see? What did you observe? We
Speaker 1: saw David, basically we saw data and meet up with
Speaker 1: Scale and her navigator was parked in the back and
Speaker 1: his car was parked in the back. He basically left
Speaker 1: his work, went to an ATM machine, got cash, went
Speaker 1: straight to the hotel. He met up with um, you know,
Speaker 1: the other woman, Gale and her navigator, and they parked
Speaker 1: in the back. They went inside the hotel and they
Speaker 1: sat in the bar at the bar. So you saw,
Speaker 1: you saw all of that happening, right, And they said
Speaker 1: at the bar talk okay, and hour went back to
Speaker 1: the car, then eventually checked back into the hotel. And
Speaker 1: you saw all of that. We got all of that.
Speaker 1: And so there these two are going up to their
Speaker 1: hotel room. Take a listen to Clara Harris herself speaking
Speaker 1: to our friends at ABC. As Clara Harris continues her story,
Speaker 1: she and Lindsay called David Harris on his cell phone.
Speaker 1: He had told them he was going to a restaurant,
Speaker 1: but instead he and his mistress come out of a
Speaker 1: room at the hotel. When the elevator opens into the lobby,
Speaker 1: Lindsay and Clara are there. He was holding her hand
Speaker 1: up like he used to hold my hand many times
Speaker 1: when he would call me that I was his princess,
Speaker 1: in his sweetheart, in the very special manner. And I
Speaker 1: just looked at her. She was in the even surprised
Speaker 1: to see me. I grabbed her by her hair on
Speaker 1: their mind side, and I remember Davidson. Oh no, no, no.
Speaker 1: A fierce struggle erupts. David Harris shouts at his wife
Speaker 1: it's over, it's over. He and Gale Bridges are escorted
Speaker 1: outside to her car, while another hotel employees steers Clara
Speaker 1: and Lindsay to her mercedes, saying don't go where they're going. Wow.
Speaker 1: So this turns into and outright brawl. So Clara Harris
Speaker 1: to wife, goes up the elevator into her husband's teen
Speaker 1: girl and they confront the two getting off the elevator.
Speaker 1: Listen to this. Clara grabbed Lindsay and returned to the Mercedes.
Speaker 1: The two women got back in the car. What happened
Speaker 1: next would be debated for years to come. From witness statements,
Speaker 1: what I was told was that she had pulled out
Speaker 1: of her parking spot, had drove around to where Miss
Speaker 1: Bridges was parked, struck the navigator and mister Harris. He
Speaker 1: flew approximately twenty five to thirty feet and he crossed
Speaker 1: a grassy median. Two grassy medians, which about twenty five
Speaker 1: feet apart. Oh while Lindsay sat in the passenger seat.
Speaker 1: She crossed over the first one. She crossed over the
Speaker 1: second grassy median, and from what witness has told us
Speaker 1: was that she had ran over him again. Police were
Speaker 1: soon summoned to the scene. At that point, I did
Speaker 1: not know he was five or dead. I was told
Speaker 1: that m he was injured, pretty battling, but I did
Speaker 1: not know if he was alive or dead at that time.
Speaker 1: I didn't know until I was contacted later by my
Speaker 1: lieutenant from the hospital. David Harris was pronounced dead at
Speaker 1: ninety eight pm. She had to go over two medians
Speaker 1: to run him over Ray Kaputo two medians. Well, that
Speaker 1: that was the distance that David was thrown. So she
Speaker 1: hits him and he's tossed about twenty five thirty feet,
Speaker 1: which is a couple of car length, and then she
Speaker 1: gets her car and kind of starts doing a donut
Speaker 1: and in that radius, she covers that distance and ends up,
Speaker 1: according to witnesses, hitting David again. Now she denies this,
Speaker 1: but that's what several witnesses upset. Bobby Bosha is with me,
Speaker 1: private eye at Blue Moon Investigations who was actually hired
Speaker 1: by Clara Harris to follow her husband David. So what
Speaker 1: did you guys observe happen in the parking lot? Bobby Bosha, Well,
Speaker 1: this was one of the first videos actually caught a
Speaker 1: murder caught on a video. We caught a video of
Speaker 1: David actually being run over, you know, tonuts over him,
Speaker 1: like several times. We counted five. The jurors basically thought
Speaker 1: it was more. They agreed that at least three times,
Speaker 1: maybe four. I've never seen an autopsy report with actual
Speaker 1: tire marks on the victim, and this one did had that.
Speaker 1: It was very very very obvious he was run over
Speaker 1: and that's what we caught on our video and by
Speaker 1: the way, he landed in the parking lot of where
Speaker 1: Clara and David had their wedding reception. Okay, same parking lot. Wow, irony, guys,
Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to a detail
Speaker 1: of David Harris's injuries. Take a listen to Sharon Martin
Speaker 1: flows from the lower job. The right colin was broken.
Speaker 1: Six of the right ribs were broken. But then as
Speaker 1: the tire progressed across the left side of the chest,
Speaker 1: the car was supported by nothing except the ribs, and
Speaker 1: so the left ribs essentially from the first rib to
Speaker 1: the tenth rib, we're all fractured multiply. The left side
Speaker 1: of his chest was essentially collapsed. Clara was arrested and
Speaker 1: charged with murder. But was it murder or a tragic
Speaker 1: mistake by a desperate woman. That would be up to
Speaker 1: the jury to decide, and they would have plenty of help.
Speaker 1: The Blue Moon Detective Agency called the whole Thing team,
Speaker 1: joining me doctor Chris Sperry, former chief medical Examiner for
Speaker 1: the whole State of Georgia. Doctor Sperry, can you analyze
Speaker 1: his injuries predominantly he's going to have tremendous crushing injuries
Speaker 1: to the chest and then the abdomen with a lot
Speaker 1: of organs torn to pieces, maybe the liver christ and
Speaker 1: the heart torn loose, and all of these would correlate
Speaker 1: with the tire marks or the outside of the body
Speaker 1: that shows where the vehicle went over his body and
Speaker 1: then disrupted all the internal organs beneath that. So with
Speaker 1: multiple areas of tire marks, it's a little more challenging,
Speaker 1: but you could still see the injuries very readily on
Speaker 1: the inside and even an assess how long he was conscious,
Speaker 1: perhaps how much pain he was he sustained before he
Speaker 1: finally lost enough blood or had a brain injury. Say
Speaker 1: that you know that would render him unconscious. So this
Speaker 1: could be put put together pretty well, I mean to
Speaker 1: you joining me Cheryl McCollum, director a cold case research institute.
Speaker 1: When you put it to a jury what happened and
Speaker 1: they hear about her apparently doing donuts over his body,
Speaker 1: it's easy to throw out the phrase death by Mercedes,
Speaker 1: but you also have evidence where he told her he
Speaker 1: was having an affair because the new woman who he
Speaker 1: called my princess, her words, not mine, she had small feet,
Speaker 1: and the wife had big feet, and she was petite,
Speaker 1: and the wife was tall like an amazon. And he
Speaker 1: says she had big breasts and the wife has small breasts.
Speaker 1: You know, you get the right jury for a defense lawyer,
Speaker 1: and you'll end up with not guilty. The rest of
Speaker 1: the story Clara Harris Convicted. Final epilogue Clara Harris released
Speaker 1: from prison after just fifteen short years, and as she
Speaker 1: was released for the camera's watching, she smiled. Nancy Grace
Speaker 1: Crime Stories signing off goodbye friend.