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Speaker 1: What is that French accent? That was my high school

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Speaker 1: at like the fancy French restaurant. Is it French's Yeah,

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00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: it's a French restaurant in the chef that she's always

430
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: and she said, I'll take one of everything. Well, this

431
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 1: is this is because also she's a foodie and loves cooking.

432
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: She this is I think, Uh, this was during like

433
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: Food Network, the Pinnacle of Food Network, and Emerald was

434
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: on TV and so her Possibilities book is all like

435
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: recipes that she was in the modern days, she'd be

436
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: like on you know, like Tasty's Instagram. She like cooks

437
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: all these amazing dishes and gives them to her neighbor

438
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: and then eats Lean Cuisine. Um does that? Did anyone

439
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: eat Lean cuisines? Did I remember those Swedish meatballs from

440
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: Lean Cuisine? Hit? Oh? My good? Hit really hit. No,

441
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm just remembering it from like when I was broken

442
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: New York. I guess I have I have some Swedish

443
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: meatball trauma because of Ikea. Don't get me started the

444
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: era where everyone was like, let's go to Ikea for

445
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: the meat bawls. Weren't that damn good? No? No, and

446
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: like they were acting like they were it, like that

447
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: was culinary masterpiece, Like Queen Lativa cooked it and gave

448
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: it to her neighbor. So so Queen Latifa. Um. She

449
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: goes to the Grand Pop Hotel and she um like

450
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: makes her way into this group of rich people. One

451
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 1: of them is the guy who owns the department store

452
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 1: that she used to work at something, and she's just

453
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: doing all these amazing things. She goes base jumping. Oh

454
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: we also forgot Queen Lativa's love interest in this movie

455
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: is ll cool Ja who looks so good the movie

456
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: l l in a movie, Yeah, like get get him up,

457
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: the Kangol Hat, take him out of whatever. In c

458
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: I S City, he's in Everybody's in a Damp Show?

459
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: Or C S I. Which one is the one with

460
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: the goth girl who's like the forensics, Yes, the Polly Parette, right,

461
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: I think so, Yeah, I think it's n C I S.

462
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: Maybe I think she left she had a stalker and

463
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: it was a wild story. I love sker not for

464
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: their safety, but stalkers in general, just like amuse me

465
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: because everyone seems like a stalker these days. If you

466
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: had to stop, if you were to stalk someone, if

467
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: you see someone's tweets, it's just like, oh, you're stalking me,

468
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, like if Laura darn saw like a gay

469
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: tweets about her, just like, oh, stalker behavior. But the

470
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: stalker takes it to the next level of I'm outside

471
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: your house. Yeah, if that's stalk anybody, who would it be?

472
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I don't know what mine answer would be, actually,

473
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: I know it's like that sounds like a lot of

474
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: effort to stalk someone. If if you had a stalker.

475
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: Would you be secretly kind of into it? Oh? Absolutely,

476
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: I'd be obsessed and then pretend to hate it. Would

477
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: be like very Jena Maroni from Dirty Rock having like

478
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: a relationship with her stalker. That would be me. I'd

479
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: just be like showing her up to places with my

480
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: friend's life guys, sunglasses on. I'm so sorry, I think

481
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: I was. Yeah, exactly, I had to get a gun

482
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: this week security. So Queen Latifa is doing all these

483
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: amazing activities and it turns out at the end she's

484
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: not actually dying because the cat scan of the department

485
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: store was faulty, right, which makes sense. Don't get a

486
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: cat scan at your local department store. And it doesn't

487
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: even it doesn't even seem like a Nordstrom kind of

488
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: department store. It seems like Sears Level or Coals. It's

489
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: called Coles has become a through line of this podcast.

490
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: Did you spend a lot of time at Coles as

491
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: a as a youth? Oh? Yeah, all of my outfits

492
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: are from Coles. Is my favorite place to shop as

493
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: a child, spot you can get back to school. Yeah,

494
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: I have never jeans on sale. I've never been inside

495
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: of Coles. Wow. Well, we went to Sears. I'm from Florida, Okay, yeah,

496
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: from Milwaukee. Calls was very Midwest. How much cold cash?

497
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: Do you have? Too much? I could last holiday, but

498
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: I won't, but you good? Yes, Yes, I worked at

499
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: a department store. Walk worked at Macy's. No way, what

500
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: did you do? I worked in the women's shoe department.

501
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: Of course, I also worked at a department store. I

502
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: worked at Bloomingdale's and worked in the men's shoe department.

503
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: But I worked at the blooming Deals in Soho Um

504
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: for six months and then on New Year's Day, I

505
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: had done a bunch of ecstasy the night before, and

506
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: I was on the floor and was like the most

507
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: hungover I've ever been. And I just looked around and said,

508
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this anymore and walked out.

509
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 1: You walked out kind of like Queen Lativa did, now

510
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking about it, And I remember for weeks afterwards,

511
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: um my manager like thought, I was in rehab and

512
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: I was just watching Veronica Mars at home. Parallel taste.

513
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: I worked at the mazeas in Um Milwaukee, which also

514
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: mass and blooming Gales are basically the same store. Well,

515
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: their parents coming yeah, yeah, um, sister, it's always wild

516
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: thing like the Beverly Center. Here, it's like it's a

517
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: maze's here, blooming gals, here be one store. Um. I

518
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: worked in Milwaukee. It was so I moved here in

519
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: there's a brief period where right when I moved here,

520
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: I went broke and then I went home. For like

521
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: three four months, I worked at the Macy's shoot apartment there,

522
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: and I like just itching to get back to l A.

523
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, what am I doing here? And basically every

524
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: day to keep myself staying, I just told lies just

525
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: fantastic lives are Like my coworkers what kind of like

526
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: I think? I told them I was engaged. Love, that's good.

527
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, I just got to get back

528
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: to l A. You know, behind like my fiance he's there.

529
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: What did your fiance do in this scenario? He worked

530
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: in the music industry? I'm sure, yeah, I Love. Do

531
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: you have any other poignant memories of working in a

532
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: department store either you? Well, so did you work on commission? Yes? So,

533
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: like the like the older people at the department store.

534
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: I mean it makes sense because capitalism, right, who work

535
00:32:52,760 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: on commission like they are throw it commercial. It's if

536
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: they see you talking to a customer that they like

537
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: made even brief eye contact what they walked in the store,

538
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: they will be up next to you like that's my customer, Ira.

539
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, al right, girl, get your commission. It's also

540
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: such a the I think the scammiest thing about working

541
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: in a department store is signing people up for credit cards. Yes,

542
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: oh my god, Okay. I used to work in American

543
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: Apparel R I P. M at the Flagship in New York,

544
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: and we also worked on commission and they would have

545
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: a white board with everybody's like commission sales on it

546
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: and like arrange people and rank them. So that was

547
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: the first thing you saw when you like clocked into

548
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: work every day. It's also evil because for us, like

549
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: I think most people have figured it out. But you

550
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: can return anything to a department store. And the thing

551
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: about Macy's was it used to be um Marshals um,

552
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: and so you could return things that like you would

553
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: bought at Marshal's and like the nineties, you return anything.

554
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: That's the policy. I could take my bra off right

555
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: now and return it at a Macy's anywhere in they

556
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: take anything, and so The thing is you work on

557
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: commission in Milwaukee, like it snows there. The thing that

558
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: people would do would they would go and buy shoes

559
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: for like the holidays are like New Year's or whatever,

560
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: and then return them at the beginning of the year.

561
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: So like the money that you make on commission, when

562
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: someone returns it, that money comes back from dark yanked.

563
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 1: It gets yanked from you. So like you could have

564
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: a good ask Christmas and then in January when someone

565
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: returns ship, like you have a bad year. Chat. Yeah,

566
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I mean I was so Yeah.

567
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: I had moments where I would see a person that

568
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: I had helped walk back in the store like a

569
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: week later and just be crushed because I knew I

570
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: never noticed. I was laser. I only worked in American

571
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: mile for two months, but I was laser focused on

572
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: being like sop top sales person because at the flash

573
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: of American Apparel, the target demographics were like trust fund babies,

574
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: their mom's, gay guys, and then like girls looking for

575
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: Halloween costumes or girls looking for like outfits for their birthday.

576
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: And I am like the perfect person to sell close

577
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: to all of those people. You know what I mean,

578
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: you are um Ira. What was your sales style? Like

579
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: how did you get people to buy things? It would

580
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: just sort of like you have to lead into the game.

581
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: A girl look so good, like come on, give me

582
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: a little walk. That would work on me. Actually no,

583
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: I don't know because when I go into a store,

584
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to talk to me. And that's

585
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: the problem too. It's like being on that side, but

586
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 1: knowing when I walk into a store, it was like,

587
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: leave me alone. Yeah, I will ask you for help

588
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: if I need it, But to size great, give me

589
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: this like you walk into it, like the Bloomingdale's here,

590
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: Like you walk into I was like, you're looking at

591
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: one shirt? Can I start a room for you? Baby? No?

592
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 1: You cannot. God, okay. I My technique doing sales was

593
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: I would walk up and I would say, uh, and

594
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: if you need anything else, my name is Francisco, like

595
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Because they need to remember your name at

596
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: the register. You gotta give them you gotta have a gimmick. Yeah, yeah,

597
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: And that was always my thing, which is an insane

598
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: thing to say to a person. They would always be

599
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: like why didn't you just but that it would they

600
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: would always remember my name. But I used to. I

601
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: picked up at least two, if not three different guys

602
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: while working at American Apparel. American Apparel was very crazy.

603
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah crazy and yeah yeah people were gay idiots

604
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: and gay shoplifters and like that was the shoplifting t

605
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 1: was insane. I had friends. I had a friend who

606
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: worked at American Apparel, like right after college and had

607
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: figured out how to make it so that just when

608
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: they rang people up, it was like zeroed out. So

609
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: they would have their friends come in and bring them

610
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: up at the register and they would just leave with

611
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: bags of cloth. We would do that too, or in backstop,

612
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: you like stuff or bags or whatever. Um. I used

613
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: to steal from a Banana Republic like college. The Banana

614
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: Republic game was and and m was the easiest to

615
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: steal from. Yeah, it has become it has become so

616
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: much harder to steal. But I've noticed on TikTok now

617
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 1: there's some people who make um like shoplifting hack videos

618
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: about where you can get away with it, and you

619
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: know what, I you know what I love about shoplifting

620
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: is people really think that they are like Carmen San

621
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: Diego level spy getting away with it. No one knows

622
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: when they're walking around targets stealing things like baby Girl.

623
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: They know that they just don't care. The jig is up.

624
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: They know that you are taking that like Hayndes underwear,

625
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: like whatever. The only people who know, the only people

626
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: who care are lost prevention. I don't care. I see

627
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: you stealing something. I have a good day. I'm not

628
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: chasing you out the store of this Gap. I did

629
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: used to work at a GAP at a Banana Republic.

630
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: Used to work at a Banana Republic also my my

631
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: senior year of high school, like very briefly I worked.

632
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: So I worked at Gap in undergrad and during the

633
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: Red Campaign, by the way, and very very at the

634
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: Michigan Avenue of Chicago one so like I was so

635
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: sad that I started the day after like they got

636
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: the job and then they scheduled my first day for

637
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: the day after Oprah like came to the store and

638
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: at the Red campaign on TV. Fuck you gap um.

639
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: But then I went to Banana Republic. Uh, And Banana

640
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: Republic was the job that I used to transfer to.

641
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: When I moved to New York. I worked at the

642
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: rock Fellow Center. Been a Republic. I think I worked

643
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: for eight shifts day. I just stopped coming in. That's

644
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: how you have to do it in retail because like

645
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: we're in, when you're working in retail, everyone's interchangeable, like

646
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: they will forget about you immediately. I'm I'm a really

647
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: bad retail employee. I do not know how to sell

648
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: to people. I don't care if they buy anything. I'm

649
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: just they're trying to, you know, like get my money.

650
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: The best job was, honestly being at the cash register

651
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: because turn off your brain and you were scanning people.

652
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: Don't put me on the sales floor. Also, I have

653
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: to say in Bloomingdale's, the music that they played was hitting.

654
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't know who was making those playlists, but I

655
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: heard it put me onto a lot of things. But

656
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: like before they came out, So I mean, thank you too,

657
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: whoever I constantly heard. Is it any wonder it was?

658
00:39:52,640 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: I loved? Was it okay? So this is taking us

659
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: back to sort of, you know, like the moment I

660
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: guess that last holiday was released in you know, like

661
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: early mid adds culture. Yeah, two thousand six. Um, Queen

662
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: Latifa was I think hot off the heels of Chicago

663
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: and she had done Taxi beauty shop, like she was

664
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: in a lot of these, and this was really her

665
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: first rom com roll because she had always been you know,

666
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: she was Matron Mama Morton and Chicago, and she kind

667
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: of always did like buddy comedy movies and which I

668
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: used to own bringing down the house. But this was

669
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: her first leading lady rom com roll, and unfortunately it

670
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: was a flop. Yeah, it's sad because it's so good.

671
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: It's so good, holds up. I think it's really funny.

672
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: She's so charismatic carry like the plant of it in

673
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: and of itself is like obviously very predictable, but she

674
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: well it's also based on it's a rewike of like

675
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: a nineteen fifties you know movie or whatever. But she's

676
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: like so charismatic and she like carries and there's I mean,

677
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: there had never been really a rom com with someone

678
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: like her as like, you know, the romantic lead, you

679
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think I'm thinking a lot

680
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: about um. Do you remember when like Rebel Wilson was

681
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: like she was like I also I also tried to

682
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: personal beat well. First of all, background was like Rebel

683
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: Wilson was all like I'm the first plus size person

684
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: to be in a romantically blah blah blah, and everyone

685
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: was like, Um, Queen Latifa is right there, Ricky Lake

686
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: is right there. I don't know if that was I

687
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: don't know if that was a great Rebel Wilson because

688
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: she saw Australia. Oh is she really? I actually had

689
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: no idea. Well, she's my Nemessida tell us Okay, So

690
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: I was it. When I was still a journalist. I

691
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: was in London for the Cats Junket, and you know

692
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: for that movie, everyone had to be like pre approved

693
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: by the talents teams for you to be interviewing them. Um.

694
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: The night before I was in my hotel in London,

695
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: I was on Grinder and someone hit me up and

696
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: and said like, you look like Rebel Wilson. And I said, oh,

697
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: that's funny, which I was like, I didn't know if

698
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: it was a compliment or not. I think she's pretty um,

699
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: but I thought it was funny because I was interviewing

700
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: her the next day. So I took a screenshot of

701
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: it and tweeted it and said like, l O L

702
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: this is, you know, funny because I'm interviewing her tomorrow.

703
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: I showed up to check in and the PR girl

704
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: who was leading the junket, was like, um, just so

705
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: you know, you won't be interviewing Rebel anymore. And and

706
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, can you tell me why? And

707
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: she said, okay, I'll get back to you, and hours

708
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: later they said yeah, apparently her publicists just like you know,

709
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: said that they changed their minds about having you interview her.

710
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: And I did. I do think that her publicist was

711
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: you know, like trolling like or like looked up all

712
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: the journalists to make sure no one was gonna, you know,

713
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: like catch her out with a question or whatever. You

714
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: know what. I'm sure like the interview would have been

715
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: bad anyway, but that is my what have to say truly,

716
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: And also like because I think the problem was because

717
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: when I tweeted, I said, wouldn't it be funny if

718
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: I brought this up during the interview And I wasn't

719
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: going to. But also that would have been funny. And

720
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: those interviews, interviews are so awful, and when I when

721
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: I did them, I always tried to like make them

722
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: at least a little fun. And when you have a

723
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: good like good talent, they respond to it. For those

724
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: of you that don't know what a junket is, it's

725
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 1: based really like when they corral dozens of journalists, many

726
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: of them from like sealist and dealist, like you know,

727
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: media publications, and each of them gets two to four

728
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: minutes to interview celebrities in this like death carousel of

729
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: like interviews, um for whatever movie. It is like that's

730
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: the same thing every time. At least you get a

731
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: little glam though sometimes because you're on camera for these junks.

732
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: But sometimes it can go wrong because sometimes they have

733
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: like one person doing hair and makeup and it can

734
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: be rough. I hate the weird hotel. It's like I

735
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: don't love I tried to make them fun, and I

736
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: think that's why I like some of the some of

737
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: the interviews I've done have like gotten like good response,

738
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: and I think if I had been able to interview

739
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: Rebel Wilson, we would have had a great time, a

740
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: great time because also I looked I'd like watched some

741
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: of the interviews she did afterwards, and I feel like

742
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,479
Speaker 1: she was the one who was bringing up like, isn't

743
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: it so weird that like my my cat character is

744
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: naked and you can't see my vagina like whatever, Like yeah, um,

745
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean back to the main part of

746
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: the discussion. I mean Queen Latifa, I feel like, I mean,

747
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 1: I were like, what's your relationship to like the cultural

748
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: relevance of Queen Lativa, Queen Latifa, either at that time

749
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: or now or like to me, like, I feel like

750
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: her charisma really carries what could have been like a

751
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 1: very mediocre movie, right, Like, if you put anybody else

752
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: in that role, it really would not have been an

753
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 1: engaging watch. But she's so delightful to watch and actually,

754
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: like Roger Ebert and other critics at the time kind

755
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: of said similar things, even if they, you know, we're

756
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: kind of shady about the film. I've loved her to

757
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 1: live in single, you know, so like you grew up

758
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: on Miss Latifa, and um, that was a good era

759
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: for her. I mean, her career has always been so interesting.

760
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: I think because of that she was a black celebrity

761
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: and so it was sort of like she had this

762
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: relevance and also from like her hip pop career that

763
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: was before, which she didn't really do much of that anymore,

764
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: but it was just sort of She's just always a person,

765
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, is like a celebrity, this Queen Latifa, you know,

766
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: like she is a a Staple. Uh. And it was

767
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: nice seeing her get to do this but didn't really

768
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: work out, you know, like you think about this, you

769
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: think about just right. Yeah, where she's like from she's

770
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: romancing Common. She is is a physical therapist who loves basketball,

771
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: and Common has an injury and she's working as his

772
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: physical therapist. But her sister is into Common. The sisters

773
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: like going on dates with Common, but they have and

774
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: I think the sister baby Paula Patton uh, and they have,

775
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: but they start to fall for each other. That seems inappropriate,

776
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: That seems like a professional boundary, maybe like the beginning

777
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: of a medical malpractice immediately sued. But I mean, I

778
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: think is I wonder if that movie was successful when

779
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: Last Holiday wasn't. And I wonder if maybe, like you know,

780
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: because Queen Lativa is queer question Mark and like she's

781
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: acknowledged it, she's acknowledged her partner okay recently, and so

782
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: maybe like there was some dissonance with her being like

783
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: a straight romantic lead in these rom coms. But don't

784
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 1: debut at number four behind Iron Man two, Robin Hood

785
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,959
Speaker 1: and Letters to Juliet Oh, Letters to Juliett. I'm gonna

786
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: google right film stated theater seven days. Oh wow. But

787
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: but you know, like she put she put butts in

788
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: the seats because when we talked about Last Holiday, it

789
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: was Queen Latifa in Last Holidays. It could not have

790
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 1: been anyone else. She was the moment, she had the chrisma.

791
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: That movie was I'm sure written for her specifically, and

792
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: she slayed something that I only realized retroactively as well. Say, um,

793
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: Chloe and Hallie Bailey made their acting debut in this movie.

794
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: They play like five year olds in this movie. I

795
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: had no idea. I only saw like after I read

796
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: the IMDb um for Last Holiday. You know what the

797
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: one that was I think successful before that was um

798
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: Beauty Shot Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I mean

799
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: that was massive and that was Steel Magnolia's right. It

800
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: was supposed to like be a quote unquote adaptation of

801
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: Steel Magnolias or something like that. I don't know, but

802
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: I love that. I should say it was just sisters

803
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: in the Barbershop that's been off of Barbershop. Um, yeah,

804
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,959
Speaker 1: but I think that. I mean, I don't know which

805
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: Like Rose and I watched this movie um Last Holiday, um,

806
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: and it was like for me like such a um,

807
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: it was such a like an example of like what

808
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: it means to like enjoy your life. And obviously, like

809
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: I don't think the film is trying to make this commentary,

810
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: but it was very like, you know, fuck the man,

811
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: fuck your nine to five, fuck like you know, are

812
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: broken health care because like, well it's also very of

813
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: its time. It's pre Obama, pre recessional recession. You know,

814
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna blow it all. Yeah, yeah, And I think

815
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: in the movie, she like she could her health insurance

816
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: doesn't cover the procedure she needs. Yeah, she goes to

817
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: see that woman and the woman tells her it would

818
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: be like a crazy amount of money to get the surgery.

819
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 1: But also I feel like, is that how much money

820
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: she spends going on this holiday? Die? Which is a serve?

821
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: It's it's it's I feel like movies of this ilk

822
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: always lead into that though that like capitalism is like

823
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: the man is bad, like bosses or mean workers, that

824
00:49:55,480 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: it never translates, but the world like that capitalism is bad.

825
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: Let me go spend all this money and buy all

826
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: these things that will make me happy before I die.

827
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: But they do make her happy, they would make me happy. Well,

828
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: but the moral that she learns at the end is

829
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: that it's actually she's actually not happy being all alone

830
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: in this place that she's dreamed of all her life.

831
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: She wants to go back and be with the people

832
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: who love her. But by that point L cool J

833
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: has flown to Prague to see her, to see her,

834
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: and she's dying, I love you. And it's very romantic

835
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: because because the nosy neighbor shows him her Possibilities book

836
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: and he's in it, which also she's right all back.

837
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: It's really creepy. She's cut out his picture and her,

838
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 1: She's cut out their faces and put them on a

839
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: wedding photo, which, oh my god, I didn't even think

840
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: about it. I don't know if I saw that, well,

841
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: I probably would be flattered and I would be too,

842
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: but anybody else would be like what the fuck. But

843
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: also at the end of the movie, doesn't she she

844
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: doesn't the seat the boss or the CEO or whatever,

845
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: like yes of alleged and like she tells him like

846
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: life's worth living for, doesn't he want to jump because

847
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: he's like so destroyed by the fact that a woman

848
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: like Queen Latifa could have a better life than him

849
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: or something like. That's kind of why he decides to

850
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: commit suicide. Yeah, and also his assistant, who is his mistress,

851
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: has left him because Queen, because feeble power. Queen Latifa

852
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: was like, girl, you're better than him and this job.

853
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: You should do his job. Why are you sleeping with

854
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: him and being the mistress? And honestly they should have

855
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: gotten together. That's how the movie should have ended as

856
00:51:46,520 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: Queen Latifa and the red headed assistant. I do appreciate that. Like,

857
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 1: even though it is a rum come, I do feel

858
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: like when I watched this movie, it was predominantly spent

859
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: on like between Latifa, just like bibing, you know, just

860
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: like enjoying her life. The makeover Vermontage, a magup Vermontage

861
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: for all makeup Vermontages. What are some of your favorite

862
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: makeup vermontag isn't God definitely clueless? Obviously Princess Diremies Devils

863
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: product that is that is, I mean, that is the

864
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: iconic one, and then you get yes, such a vogue

865
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: and then it in then it ends with you know,

866
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: the are those the which I think we as a

867
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: community as a community need to let that it. It's

868
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: gotta go that along with like high Gay or like whatever.

869
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: I think High Gay is like recent enough that it's

870
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: still funny and there's more permutations of it to be done.

871
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: It's been a very long time. It's it's been when Christmas,

872
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: people do right, but people do the right? Are you

873
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: the eighth grade report card that I had my mom's basement. Yeah,

874
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 1: it's like all right, like everyone makes it into a

875
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: new thing. Let it. Actually, as much as I love

876
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: that movie, Devil wors Product, discourse could leave the Internet. Well,

877
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: the real villain of the the real villain of the

878
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: Devil war Is product is the friends we made along

879
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: the way. I think I tweet it was in my

880
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: hey day. I think I tweeted that the real in

881
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: the Devil Words product is all of you who were

882
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: shut up about this movie. I mean, Devil wors product is.

883
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: Can we categorize as a rom com? Also? I guess

884
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: technically maybe it's a workplace comedy, and it's a workplace comedy,

885
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: But you know, in the antheon of rom coms. You know,

886
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: as we're talking about Last Holiday, what are some of

887
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: your favorites? Yes, what are the best rob coms? One

888
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: of mine is Last Holiday. We were just talking about

889
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: how those are. That's like, literally Rosen my favorite. I'm Christmas.

890
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: Maybe don't watch the Holidays. The holiday we're talking about,

891
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 1: last holiday, last holiday. The holiday. Pretty Woman of course

892
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: is really iconic and like it's a it's a rom

893
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 1: com about a SECS worker, which I think is like

894
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: pretty cool. My best friend's wedding, Oh, my best friend's

895
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: wedding is it is Julia Roberts does a rom com. Okay,

896
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: America Sweethearts not one of my favorites, but it's it's good.

897
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, my best friend's wedding is the moment Cameron

898
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: Diaz's performance, and that is incredible. Yes, the scene in

899
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: the bathroom alone, I've never said that I would have

900
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: killed her if that. If I was getting married and

901
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: that was going on, I would have said, Julie Roberts,

902
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: you're dead. You've never seen it. Wait, this is my

903
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: best friend's wedding or yeah, oh, I have seen my

904
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: best wedding, and I remember empathizing with the diabolical nature

905
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: of trying to break up this marriage. I also love

906
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: the way it ends, because it ends with her not

907
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: winning and her being alone at the wedding and her

908
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: gay best friend comes and it's like, yeah, this sucks,

909
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: but like we have each other, who plays the gay

910
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 1: best friend again? So it opens up with like the

911
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: musical number that is that is cinema. Okay, that is

912
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 1: that is a good time at the movies. Marty Scorsese

913
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 1: agrees that is what we need back in film. Okay.

914
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: Oh god. I think my ultimate rom com obviously is

915
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: going to be Moonstruck. I mean I have it like

916
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: tattooed on my leg. I guess that is. It is

917
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: a rom com technique. Yeah it is. It's like a

918
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: prestige rama, is it, I mean, is it? Yeah? Yeah.

919
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna be like, because there's always the romantic dramas,

920
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: but it is a romantic comedy. It's comedy. Yeah, it's

921
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: intentionally comedic. I do. I do love a rom com.

922
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: And I think this era that Last Holiday came out

923
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: in was kind of the golden age of rom com

924
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: by the way they were really cranking them out, because

925
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 1: this was when j Lo was making all of her

926
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: rom coms. Kate Hudson, you know, the girls were working,

927
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: they were booked and busy turning these out a couple

928
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: of times a year. I love a teen rom com too,

929
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: you know, like, um, get over it never seen it

930
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: as a classic. Uh and then um, well the other

931
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,240
Speaker 1: two I love like feel more like Devils was probably

932
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: probably work force comedy. It's like, don't tell me, I'm

933
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: the babysitter's dad as elements, but I think it's a

934
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 1: workless or a family comedy. Why would you classify that movie.

935
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 1: I don't even know these like kind of a family comedy. Yeah,

936
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: there's hijinks and working girl, but it seems more like workplace. Um,

937
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 1: just like Devil, But I don't know. I like Devil.

938
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: I love that we've shortened it Devil. I was on

939
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: the plane the other day watching Devil, and then people

940
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: think you're talking about the night movie. Oh, that was

941
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: a horrible movie. Just takes place on an elevator, Yes,

942
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: it did. The whole movie takes place on an elevator,

943
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: which is probably where I will die on an elevator,

944
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: really on the Tower of Terror. On the Tower of Terror,

945
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: so you would die going up, or you would die

946
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: in the actual right itself. Well, now it's guards in

947
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: the Galaxy. Oh it changed in l A. But in

948
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: Florida for like lawsuit reasons, because no, because they just

949
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: wanted to add a Marvel ride but tower. People have

950
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: died on the Tower of tot Also, have you seen

951
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: the Tower of Terror movie starring Kirsten Dunst. It was

952
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: a Disney Channel original movie about Tower of Terror. I

953
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,960
Speaker 1: think it can maybe just a ride like as a

954
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: way to promote it. I feel like I've seen every

955
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: Disney Channel original every day. Yes you know that. I

956
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 1: that the girls were working specific age. If you were,

957
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: if you were watching Disney Channel as like like middle

958
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: school high school, you were like Friday Disney. If you

959
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: were our Lord and Savior Christy Carlson, Romano and newly

960
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: minted gay icon who also probably voted for drum Probably

961
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: um wait, I have seen this, Steve Guttenberg, Steve Gutenberg, Yes,

962
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: this is wild. If your life was a rom com,

963
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: what would the premise be? Love? I mean, I know

964
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: myself and my Leo behavior. My rom com would be

965
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: the one where like, oh, you're like you're you're like

966
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: in a high powered job and like you're you're sort

967
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: of mean and like you you yell at people and

968
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: then um, some like some person who like comes across

969
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: your path, Um, you find love? Love that I know exactly, Yeah,

970
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: you know, or like you know, I also think I

971
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: would be very much like intolerable cruelty like me and

972
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: my Like I could see myself in a rom com

973
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: where it's someone helps me find love, or it's the

974
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: reverse ones where it's like you are falling out of

975
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: love and you're feuding with your partner and then you

976
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: get back together at the ends, right right, you know

977
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: little Adam's rib moment. Mine would also be a workplace

978
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: comedy of some a workplace romcom of some kind, but

979
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: it would definitely be more of like an ugly Betty

980
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: scenario where I am, like, you know, executive assistant, like

981
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: can't fend for myself really like you know, just like

982
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: kind of bottom of the verial person in the environment.

983
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: And then it would definitely be makeover montage to like

984
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: win the guy or some thing like that. I don't know,

985
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: maybe my boss. Maybe it'd be a little risque, like

986
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: there's an element of like, you know, uh, forbiddenness to

987
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: our relationship. But I'm sure woman assistant love that pretty

988
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: woman meets the intern. Yeah, the intern y Yeah. And

989
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: my rom com would just be She's the man starring

990
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: a man to mine. No, that movie is iconic remains

991
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: in like the non binary of Pam Beyond. It's like

992
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: truly a transnarrative. I mean, my rom comm would definitely

993
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: be like derivative of a Shakespeare play. As I think,

994
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, like some of the best rom coms we

995
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 1: have are based on classic literature. That's our era, that's

996
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: our era. They were, they were studios were like, who's

997
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: the shakespeak another romo and Juliet Let Yeah, I want

998
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: to I want to do a rom com based on

999
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 1: the Tempest. That would be amazing. Get over it is

1000
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: been somewhere nice dream by the way, no way, Kirsten

1001
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 1: Dunt and they are doing a production of Midsummer Night's

1002
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: Dream play within a play. Yeah you got you gotta

1003
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: see this movie. It opens up with him him being

1004
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: dumped and um vitamin C and the rest of the

1005
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: town like show up behind him and saying Captain and

1006
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: Tinneil's love will bring us together. I love that. So

1007
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: as we talk about rom coms, I think rom coms

1008
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: were the way that a lot of us like learned

1009
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: what we thought relationships were like. But what I'm interested

1010
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: in is things that we found like sexy as kids

1011
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: are like that we thought were the models of what

1012
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 1: sexuality were like, and so I'm really interested in, like

1013
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: through media, what your first experience of something you thought

1014
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: was kind of sexy, you're like erotic? What? So I'll

1015
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: give my example, which is the Flintstones movie which one

1016
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: Viva Rock Vegas the originally so first some reason halle

1017
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: Berry and Kyle McLaughlin had to me this like insane

1018
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 1: electric sexual chemistry. And I remember as a child being like,

1019
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,080
Speaker 1: this is hot and this is how like adults are

1020
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: sexy with each other? Is there like scheming and like, um, barefoot,

1021
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: I love a scheme? Yeah, Taylor was in this movie. Yes,

1022
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: I feel like made me feel like every romance he

1023
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: pursue needs to have obstacles. Yeah, you can't just beat

1024
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: somebody and start dating them. It's you have to overcome

1025
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: them having another boyfriend, or it's like you are across

1026
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: the globe from each other, or someone's scheming to keep

1027
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: you apart. It's like you get turned on by obstacles. Unless,

1028
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: of course, as we've discussed on this podcast before, it

1029
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: is Twilight and there is no plot in the movie

1030
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: at all, and there's no stakes to their relationship in

1031
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 1: any way, and you're just in love and one of

1032
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: you's a vampire. Yeah, Ira, what was your media sexual awakening?

1033
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: I think about that. I mean it's so base, which

1034
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: was I love horror movies, but you're like one elm Street,

1035
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 1: you know, And it's it's not just like to like

1036
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: the actual homoe erotic one. It's just like, wouldn't I

1037
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: feel like those movies gave you like a hot guy

1038
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: like a Johnny Depp or something. Yes, in a crop

1039
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: top being stalked by the killer. Back to stalking, Yeah,

1040
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: back to stalking. Honestly, this whole podcast is rounding to

1041
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 1: a point, which is that stalking is hot and should

1042
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: be more socially if you would like to stalk any

1043
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: of us, and here are addressed security numbers. Here's my

1044
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: preferred coffee shop Dred Pennsylvani. Yeah, we did it, Joe.

1045
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: Well that could die too. That also could die. I

1046
01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 1: was with someone the other day who like earnestly was

1047
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 1: like we did it, Joe, and like not even like

1048
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: making you talk out of it, And I was like,

1049
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: we're still doing that. It's been a year. Girl. Also,

1050
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 1: what did you do? Um? Do you have a wish

1051
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: for the holiday? Like a holiday message to share with everyone?

1052
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: I do you know? Um? Be kind to one another,

1053
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: be kind, and most importantly, be kind to yourself. Spend

1054
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,959
Speaker 1: that money on yourself. That's right, Go buy a book,

1055
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 1: buy a trip to Prague. Everyone should do their version

1056
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: of like last Remember when everyone used to say, treat yourself.

1057
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: Everyone should like last holiday themselves? Oh my God should

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Speaker 1: Whatever you're like, If you're saving for something, look at

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Speaker 1: the world around you. Okay, look at it burning, and

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Speaker 1: take that thing you're saving for and go do something fun.

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Speaker 1: Just believing your possibilities. Yes, go to your sense, your

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Speaker 1: essence cart and and by the time, yes, we will

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Speaker 1: be back next week to have a discussion about, you know,

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Speaker 1: the birth of Jesus Christ, the War on Christmas. We'll

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Speaker 1: capitalist Christmas. So before next week you should all crack

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Speaker 1: open your bibles. Um, turn turn to the Book of

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Speaker 1: No I'm just kidding. Um. You can, however, call us

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Speaker 1: as a person watch or read or you know, listen

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Speaker 1: takes on this week's episode. Tell us what you really

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Speaker 1: think about Queen Latifa's red dress. Let me tell you.

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Speaker 1: producer is a Phoebe Inter, with support from Lindsay Hoffman,

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Speaker 1: Julian Weller, Jess Cranechitch and Nikki Etorp. Until next week,

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Speaker 1: See you later, her Jons. Christmas isn't canceled, but this

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Speaker 1: episode of this podcast is should We Hold Hands? And

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