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Speaker 1: Dolphans And welcome to the Drive Time Podcast, part of
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins podcast network, covering your team, your Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: How's it going everybody? I am your host, Travis Winfield
Speaker 1: and as always I am here to bring you your
Speaker 1: daily dose of Miami Dolphins football. And on today's show,
Speaker 1: it's part two of our interview with ESPNS Jordan Reid.
Speaker 1: We're taking a look at the college football season that
Speaker 1: was in and get Jordan's top three players by position
Speaker 1: for this previous college football season, which now is a
Speaker 1: rap moving into bull season. From the Baptist Health Studios
Speaker 1: inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Drive
Speaker 1: Time Podcast Miami Dolphins. Let's go ahead and pick it
Speaker 1: right back up with part two of my interview with
Speaker 1: ESPN Jordan Read and joining us now for the second
Speaker 1: consecutive Drive Time Podcast. Happy to have him on, Jordan Read. Jordan,
Speaker 1: welcome back into my friend. Always a pleasure being here, Travis.
Speaker 1: Thanks as always. If you guys didn't hear the first
Speaker 1: part of this podcast, Jordan told us about one rookie
Speaker 1: class to a tongue by Lowes development, and much much more.
Speaker 1: He also we also did the congratulations about getting hired
Speaker 1: by ESPN, a dream come true for him and for
Speaker 1: so many folks that kind of worked this this career
Speaker 1: path in the draft industry. So if you haven't heard
Speaker 1: that episode, go ahead and go back check it out.
Speaker 1: And Jordan's Christmas is coming up right around the corner.
Speaker 1: You've got those two little girls. What are you getting
Speaker 1: them for Christmas? Man? I need some ideas. Help me
Speaker 1: out here, man. So we're still in the stage of Disney.
Speaker 1: Everything is Disney right now. So we're dealing with Mowanna.
Speaker 1: We're on Mickey and Minni Mouse right now. So just
Speaker 1: trying to get everything Disney related right now. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no limits anything Disney. We're gonna have on at
Speaker 1: the Christmas Tree this year. That's incredible. It's be our
Speaker 1: first Christmas where she's actually like capable of opening presents.
Speaker 1: Last year she was a little bit too young. But
Speaker 1: now right around twenty months, I think I cannot wait
Speaker 1: to watch her terror and two gifts. I don't even
Speaker 1: care what I get her. She's not gonna care either.
Speaker 1: She played with the boxes that she gets more than anything.
Speaker 1: So that's that's about where we're at. But Jordan, we
Speaker 1: wanted to have you on today because you know, I
Speaker 1: want to have you help me and my audience understand
Speaker 1: better this college football landscape. It's been a fun season.
Speaker 1: I don't get to watch as much of the live
Speaker 1: broadcast anymore because I'm so busy with with the Dolphins
Speaker 1: and everything. But I wanted to go position by position
Speaker 1: here and would you be able to give me your
Speaker 1: top three players by position from one season. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: this has been a very fun college season so far,
Speaker 1: and I mean, let's get right into it. I'm excited,
Speaker 1: you bet. Let's go ahead and start with the position
Speaker 1: you used to play, the cubes, the quarterbacks. Let's go, baby,
Speaker 1: what're your top three quarterbacks this last season? Yeah? So
Speaker 1: this past season, this past college season, I should say,
Speaker 1: has been very exciting, and it's been a little bit
Speaker 1: different as far as the quarterbacks, just because we've been
Speaker 1: so spoiled with a quarterback class over the past two
Speaker 1: or three years. I mean, you guys took one with
Speaker 1: two A tongue by Lowe who's turned into a terrific player,
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Kyler Murray. I mean, the list
Speaker 1: goes on and on, and some of these quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: we have seen, and even last year's Big Five with
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, Trey Lance, Mac Jones, and Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson too. But the thing that's a little bit different
Speaker 1: about this class is that there's no consensus one guy
Speaker 1: at the top. But the one that you will hear
Speaker 1: pretty much for the most part or the betterment up
Speaker 1: until April. I think he's Kenny Pickett from pitt and
Speaker 1: he's been phenomenal this year. I mean, he's throwing the
Speaker 1: record forty two touchdown passes in the a sec. Terrific background,
Speaker 1: was a three sport athlete coming out baseball player, basketball player,
Speaker 1: was a point guard coming out to And you know,
Speaker 1: the thing that I love about Kenny is that you know,
Speaker 1: he plays exactly to his strengths and he may not
Speaker 1: be as physically gifted as some of the other quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in this class, but when it comes down to in
Speaker 1: the NFL, is can you win from the pocket? And
Speaker 1: he has a decision making that you're looking for he's
Speaker 1: very accurate. I think he probably has a B level
Speaker 1: on him right now. Looking forward to I'm hoping he
Speaker 1: plays in the Senior Bowl. I think he could help him.
Speaker 1: I think he could help himself significantly if he goes
Speaker 1: down there and plays well in Mobile And you're hearing
Speaker 1: a lot of there may not be a quarterback drafted
Speaker 1: in the top ten, but I think if Pickett goes
Speaker 1: down there and plays well, I think he could enter
Speaker 1: into the discussions of going inside the top ten. But
Speaker 1: you know, last year, I should say his junior season,
Speaker 1: he battled through an ankle injury. He got hurt in
Speaker 1: the fifth game of the season, so you see him
Speaker 1: limping around and he's battling through. But he was really
Speaker 1: finally got healthy this year, and you saw that in
Speaker 1: this game. He acquired a newfound mobility ability. You saw
Speaker 1: him with the fake slide and the a c C
Speaker 1: Championship game, taking it fifty plus yards in that game
Speaker 1: in the big win over Wake four. So Kenney Pickett
Speaker 1: is the guy that you're going to hear about at
Speaker 1: the top. And then the other two to round out
Speaker 1: just the top three, Matt Corral from Old Miss who's
Speaker 1: done a heck of a job this year in that lane,
Speaker 1: Kiff and the offense once again, those disc or that
Speaker 1: throws that you see a lot of the r P
Speaker 1: O game. He's really good in that area. And then
Speaker 1: the thing about corre All is that he just needed
Speaker 1: to take care of the football. And you know, he
Speaker 1: had eleven interceptions the two games alone during his Richard
Speaker 1: sophomore season, has six against l s U and then
Speaker 1: excuse me, six against Arkansas and five against l s U.
Speaker 1: And that's reduced all the way down to four interceptions
Speaker 1: total this year, so he's done a much better job
Speaker 1: of taking care of the ball. And then the last
Speaker 1: one I think could be up for debate. You can
Speaker 1: see Sam how from North Carolina. You can see Malik
Speaker 1: Willis from Liberty. You can see Carson Strong from Nevada,
Speaker 1: and then Desmond Ritterd from Cincinnati, who has a big
Speaker 1: opportunity here in the College Football Playoff in his first
Speaker 1: game against Alabama, and then he's already accepted his invitations
Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl. So he's probably the one player
Speaker 1: of anybody throughout any position that has the most game
Speaker 1: over the next few weeks in the College Football Playoff.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you keep going back to the Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: because what a job Jim Naggie has done there to
Speaker 1: get that game to where it is with all of
Speaker 1: these first round and second round, third round picks and
Speaker 1: of course the rest of the draft too, but he
Speaker 1: just loads that game up with talent every single year,
Speaker 1: and this would be a good chance, like you mentioned,
Speaker 1: for Desmon Murder to get out there and maybe Slitt
Speaker 1: find him himself as what would you say, a possible
Speaker 1: first round pick. Maybe it just depends if he plays
Speaker 1: well at the Senior Bowl. I think we could see
Speaker 1: him start to enter the back end of those first
Speaker 1: round discussions. And then also if he goes out and
Speaker 1: he played with plays well against Alabama and they end
Speaker 1: up winning that game. I mean, we've seen how the
Speaker 1: college football playoffs can really skyrocket the draft stock of
Speaker 1: a lot of guys, and we know the postseason All
Speaker 1: star circuit can really help guys too. Yeah, the the
Speaker 1: the I don't want to use the word uncertainty, but
Speaker 1: I will around the quarterback position going in because, like
Speaker 1: you mentioned, all these loaded classes where you knew going
Speaker 1: in you had you know, I used the air quote
Speaker 1: generational types. You had your your risers and all these
Speaker 1: guys that have produced such a high level. I think
Speaker 1: it makes for even more intrigue going into the draft
Speaker 1: when you don't have those four or five guys across
Speaker 1: the board that you certainly know about as top ten,
Speaker 1: top fifteen Lettle picks. Let's move on now to a
Speaker 1: position that's also in the backfield, the running backs. I think, uh,
Speaker 1: the last couple of years we've seen some pretty good
Speaker 1: classes as well. Does this one kind of match up
Speaker 1: and what are your top three guys? Well, it's not
Speaker 1: as loaded and we as we have seen in years past,
Speaker 1: even going back to the nineteen class, which was really
Speaker 1: really talented in as well. I think both of those
Speaker 1: classes were loaded. I don't think there's similar to quarterback.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's no consensus guy at the top.
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of which type of flavor, what
Speaker 1: Scoopa ice cream really flows your boat, whatever type that
Speaker 1: you like. And you know, Breece Hall from Iowa State
Speaker 1: is one that you're gonna hear a lot about resting
Speaker 1: touchdown straight um, which was an FBS record that he
Speaker 1: said this year Iowa, Isaiah Spiller from Texas A and
Speaker 1: m is another name that you're here about. Kenneth Walker,
Speaker 1: the third from Michigan State, who was phenomenal this year
Speaker 1: after he transferred over from Wake Forest. And I mean
Speaker 1: there's plenty of other names that you go on and
Speaker 1: on and about. I really liked the senior backfield class too.
Speaker 1: You're talking about James Cook, Alvin Cook's younger brother down
Speaker 1: at Georgia, who's been used sparingly, but I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be a much better pro now that he's gonna
Speaker 1: be in a be a bit, He's gonna be able
Speaker 1: to shine a little bit more in a committee backfield.
Speaker 1: You have m Abram Smith from Taylor, who I think
Speaker 1: is an underrated player, to Brian Robinson Junior from Alabama,
Speaker 1: and the list goes on and on. As you can see,
Speaker 1: I think there's no headliner in this class, but as
Speaker 1: far as the depth of the group, I think you
Speaker 1: can really find some guys late day two, early day
Speaker 1: three that can come in and be those immediate type
Speaker 1: of commedia backfield contributors. Didn't Georgia start Cook in the
Speaker 1: SEC title game? Yeah? They did, and that was after
Speaker 1: he had been kind of the backup all season long, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And another guy in the backfield, Jamir White, with him
Speaker 1: probably going to be a late round guy that I
Speaker 1: think going to be helpful in the committee too. I
Speaker 1: know you're a former co worker Kyle Crabs love Kyle
Speaker 1: crabs her on the Drivetime podcast. Now you do you
Speaker 1: do as well? He's a big, a big fan of um.
Speaker 1: The other running back White there at Georgia. So good
Speaker 1: company there. Let's go ahead and move onto the receiver position.
Speaker 1: I have one guy that I've really zoned it on
Speaker 1: that I love watching this season. I'm just gonna wait
Speaker 1: and see if you mention him. But go ahead and
Speaker 1: talk about your receivers. Jordan's Yeah. So this class, it
Speaker 1: doesn't have the star power at the top like we
Speaker 1: saw with Jamar Chase and Jalen Waddle and DeVante Smith
Speaker 1: a year ago. But I really like the depth of
Speaker 1: this class, especially in the first two rounds, and I
Speaker 1: think we could see as many as five and six
Speaker 1: guys go in the top forty. We've seen what Jamison
Speaker 1: Williams at Alabama has been able to do in the
Speaker 1: SEC Championship game, and it's crazy that he's fighting for
Speaker 1: that one, that wide receiver one title of the guys
Speaker 1: that he was in the same wide receiver room with
Speaker 1: a year ago this time last year with Chris Olive
Speaker 1: and Garrett Wilson. Who are some other guys that I
Speaker 1: think are gonna be fighting to be in that wide
Speaker 1: receiver one discussion two And I think both of those
Speaker 1: guys could end up going in the first round. But
Speaker 1: I mean, and we didn't even talk about guys like
Speaker 1: Drake London from USC who was leading the FBS and
Speaker 1: receptions prior to suffering the lower extremity injury that he suffered.
Speaker 1: John Dodson from Penn State is another name that really
Speaker 1: has a lot of people excited. But one of my
Speaker 1: favorite players in this class as a whole is Trailing
Speaker 1: Burke's from Arkansas. He really reminds me of a J.
Speaker 1: Brown from not an Old Miss, that linebacker type build
Speaker 1: that has plenty of speed to combine with that. So
Speaker 1: I really like what this wide receiver class has to offer,
Speaker 1: especially in the first round. Trailing Brooks has been a
Speaker 1: breaking Twitter time he makes a catch, it's always a
Speaker 1: highlight reel catching he makes it under in Arkansas. He's
Speaker 1: he's impressive. But the guy you actually didn't match My
Speaker 1: guy produced David Bell. I've been a big fan of
Speaker 1: his game. Yeah, he he actually just put a Twitter
Speaker 1: post up saying that he's not gonna play in the
Speaker 1: Bowl game. Him and Carl Liftis. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: gonna play in the Bowl game, but they did officially
Speaker 1: declare for the NFL Draft. But yeah, David Bell, I mean,
Speaker 1: one of the best route runners, and you know, he's
Speaker 1: probably I think he's probably gonna run in the four
Speaker 1: or five range, But when you turn on the tape,
Speaker 1: he just understands how to naturally get open. And he
Speaker 1: had I believe it was um he had to produe
Speaker 1: record of five two yard games in his career, and
Speaker 1: I mean he just set the record books on fire
Speaker 1: when he was there, And everybody talked about Rondale Moore
Speaker 1: been a number one option when he was there, when
Speaker 1: David Bell really was the guy that was consistently producing
Speaker 1: when Randale Moore was battling his ailments and things that
Speaker 1: he was going through from an injury standpoint. But Bill
Speaker 1: has been able to constantly produce when he's been in
Speaker 1: the lineup. It kind of reminds me of like you
Speaker 1: have these different class of receivers in terms of what
Speaker 1: they do well. Like Michael Thomas and Terry McLaurin, two
Speaker 1: guys that come to mind is dudes that were just
Speaker 1: route running experts at the moment they entered the NFL.
Speaker 1: Can I see something similar with David Bell when I
Speaker 1: watched him on tape there for due? How about the
Speaker 1: tight end class, Jordan, This is the area that I
Speaker 1: sometimes overlook. I don't know why, for whatever reason, tight
Speaker 1: ends just kind of go past the by the wayside
Speaker 1: for me. Can you help educate me on this position? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So this is a group that is being really underrated
Speaker 1: right now in my opinion, just because there once again
Speaker 1: like quarterback and then Asto running back, where there's just
Speaker 1: no consensus guy at the top. But I think one
Speaker 1: that's really gonna rise to the top eventually, especially when
Speaker 1: we talk about the postseason All Star Game, is Trey
Speaker 1: McBride from Colorado State. He's about six ft four two
Speaker 1: and sixty pounds. He was everything for that offense this year.
Speaker 1: He had ninety catches for over or nearly yards, but
Speaker 1: only at one touchdown, So a little bit of a
Speaker 1: weird stat now, he had so many yards and so
Speaker 1: many receptions but was only able to get in the
Speaker 1: end zone one time, but it's because the defenses were
Speaker 1: so fixated on him where they were able to keep
Speaker 1: him out of the end zone. But he's your versatil guy.
Speaker 1: He can line up in line, he can line up
Speaker 1: to the hip of the tight end, you can all
Speaker 1: excuse me, the hip of the offensive tackle, and then
Speaker 1: you can flex him out too. I think he's probably
Speaker 1: a B plus level blocker. Still has some technique things
Speaker 1: that he needs to clean up as far as running
Speaker 1: his feet on contact, but he I mean, he really
Speaker 1: loves the process of understanding how the block and then
Speaker 1: just getting involved in the mix of delble teams or
Speaker 1: offensive tackles too. So Trey McBride is probably going to
Speaker 1: be that guy that I think ends up as the
Speaker 1: consensus number one guy. Then after that you have players
Speaker 1: like Jaden Jalen Widermeyer from Texas and then who got
Speaker 1: a lot of buzz coming into the year, had a
Speaker 1: really good year, to Cold Turner from Nevada who proved
Speaker 1: to be one of Carson Strong's best options down in Nevada. Two.
Speaker 1: And then there's some other players that you're gonna hear
Speaker 1: about two that I think are gonna rise to the
Speaker 1: top eventually too. So I'm really excited about this tight
Speaker 1: end class. And once again there's no consensus at the top,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of depth through out. Not like
Speaker 1: last year with Kyle pitts On not the same deal there, yeah,
Speaker 1: much much different players. We got a chance to watch
Speaker 1: him in training camp this UH this past August, and
Speaker 1: he was fun to watch. Eric Road did a good
Speaker 1: job on him though without the course of that week,
Speaker 1: I was a lot of fun for us to watch.
Speaker 1: Down here. Let's keep it on that particular part of
Speaker 1: the field, the offensive line. Kick in side here a
Speaker 1: little bit. Talk to us about this class here, Jordan.
Speaker 1: You can talk about tackles, guard, tenners, whatever you want.
Speaker 1: Just want to have you education on offensive line playing
Speaker 1: college football. I think this offensive taper classes loaded. And
Speaker 1: the crazy thing about it is that we've seen so
Speaker 1: many good offensive taper classes over the past few years.
Speaker 1: They just consistently keep turning them out college football. I mean,
Speaker 1: Evan Neil from Alabama is the one that you're canna
Speaker 1: hear about at the top, six ft seven three and
Speaker 1: sixty pounds, just a mammoth sized human being, but also
Speaker 1: a really good athlete. To eat him and Kwandu from
Speaker 1: NC State is another player that I had an opportunity
Speaker 1: to see live against Wake Forest and he was the
Speaker 1: real deal. It was every bit of everything that thought
Speaker 1: he would be in person. There's some there's some mix
Speaker 1: of pains as far as is he a guard, is
Speaker 1: the a tackle? I think he's shown plenty enough at
Speaker 1: left tackle this year to show that he can survive
Speaker 1: out there on an island by himself. Charles Cross from
Speaker 1: Mississippi State, who is one of my favorites of the bunch,
Speaker 1: only a richer sophomore this year, so we'll see if
Speaker 1: he ends up declaring in the end. An underrated FCS
Speaker 1: player that really has risen through the ranks since summer
Speaker 1: scouting is Trevor Penny from Northern Iowa. Another player that
Speaker 1: you'll probably start to see here in first round Montrafts
Speaker 1: Northern Iowa. Is he going to the Senior Bowl? Yes,
Speaker 1: he's like he was the first selection of the first
Speaker 1: acceptance of the Senior Bowl. I love that these smaller
Speaker 1: school guys, they always seem to find their way down
Speaker 1: like a Quinn Miners or a uh Ali Marpett. It
Speaker 1: seems like every single year we get a guy that
Speaker 1: goes down there, that comes up and has a big
Speaker 1: week and then gets drafted in the top couple of rounds. There.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and go over to the defensive side
Speaker 1: here in Miami is very deep at this position into
Speaker 1: your defensive lineman. Who are some guys you like there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know, this is one position that hasn't been
Speaker 1: very good as far as the depth at the top
Speaker 1: over the past few years. In Christian Barmer is one
Speaker 1: player that we've seen really had a really good year,
Speaker 1: but Lynn McGill levi Wzoreka help in Detroit. There are
Speaker 1: two other players that have been contributors. So while there
Speaker 1: hasn't been the star war that we have seen in
Speaker 1: years past, you know, like a Quentin Williams or some
Speaker 1: of the other players that we have seen amongst the
Speaker 1: interior defensive line class in years past, I think this
Speaker 1: class is very similar and that there's not a bunch
Speaker 1: of star power at the top. And I think this
Speaker 1: is one of the weaker position groups across the board,
Speaker 1: whether it's offense or defense. So some players that I
Speaker 1: do like, obviously you're gonna hear about Jordan Davis down
Speaker 1: at Georgia, who I think is that two down front
Speaker 1: stuff for that is very reminiscent of Lynbaal Joseph when
Speaker 1: he was coming out of e Cu end up being
Speaker 1: a second round pick. Perry On Winfrey from Oklahoma is
Speaker 1: another player that I think is probably gonna rise as
Speaker 1: the draft process goes along. They had a little bit
Speaker 1: of an unconventional defensive line rotation there at Oklahoma, so
Speaker 1: he would be in form the first series of the
Speaker 1: game and then you wouldn't see him again until about
Speaker 1: the third or the fourth series of the second quarters.
Speaker 1: They had a little bit of a weird rotation there
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma. But I think he's a player that once
Speaker 1: he gets more exposure or playing time, I think he's
Speaker 1: only going to get better and we're gonna see an
Speaker 1: opportunity for him down to the Senior Bowl too. Once again,
Speaker 1: another player that could rise through the ranks. Um. You
Speaker 1: know some other players that I liked at the position.
Speaker 1: For Darien Mathis from Alabama, He's I think he's a
Speaker 1: three down player that showed a lot more juice down
Speaker 1: the back stretch of the year. You saw him make
Speaker 1: plays all up and down the field in the SC
Speaker 1: title game, and then Devonte Wyatt from Georgia who was
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis's running mate along the interior. So while there
Speaker 1: isn't a bunch of star power at the top, I
Speaker 1: think there's some players that you can really fill out
Speaker 1: your depth chart with this group with. I can't even
Speaker 1: fathom Jordan Davis a size. There's that photo of him
Speaker 1: where he's with one of his teammates might have been
Speaker 1: who you just mentioned. And then also a staffer who's
Speaker 1: like a normal size human being, and Jordan Davis towers
Speaker 1: over not just the normal size human being, his teammate too.
Speaker 1: It's it's hard to comprehend how big that man is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it actually it was Davante if he would standing aside,
Speaker 1: and I think why, it's like six three three hundred
Speaker 1: pounds and he just towered over. I've never seen the
Speaker 1: crazier po that. Oh man, let's go ahead and keep
Speaker 1: this rolling hare out to the outside off the edge there.
Speaker 1: What do you think about us edge class coming into
Speaker 1: December here bull season? I love it. I think this
Speaker 1: is by far the strongest position group across the board
Speaker 1: of any offense or defense in this draft class. And
Speaker 1: we've seen Aidan Hudginson. The year that he's been able
Speaker 1: to put together, how well he stood out in the
Speaker 1: game against Ohio State. He's been doing that all year,
Speaker 1: said a Michigan single game or single season record and
Speaker 1: sacks this year. And then the other player that we're
Speaker 1: probably gonna see jockey and back and forth for the
Speaker 1: possible number one overall selection is Cavon Thibodeaux from Oregon,
Speaker 1: who has been able to create constant pressure this year,
Speaker 1: and he's been a little bit banged up. He had
Speaker 1: an ankle injury that he suffered against Fresno State, and
Speaker 1: I thought he showed some spurts of where he looked
Speaker 1: like the number one overall pick. But I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna come down to with those two whether you want
Speaker 1: the more polished player walking through the door, or do
Speaker 1: you want to take the more high upside type of athletes.
Speaker 1: And I think with Thibodeaux, he reminds me a lot
Speaker 1: of Daveon Clowney coming out of South Carolina, where you
Speaker 1: saw the splash plays, but you want to see a
Speaker 1: little bit more of those in between type of impacts
Speaker 1: in that gray area of when he's not making those
Speaker 1: splash plays. So Hutchinson. I think he's a little bit
Speaker 1: more diverse as far as his hand usage, his creativity
Speaker 1: and then what he's able to do off of the
Speaker 1: edges and run defender two. But I mean outside of that,
Speaker 1: we have plenty of other players. George Kyle Loftus is
Speaker 1: another player that you're gonna hear about a lot. He
Speaker 1: just declared for the two NFL draft. Traymond Walker from
Speaker 1: Georgia is another player that's still trying to figure out
Speaker 1: the song of this part said about six ft five,
Speaker 1: two ninety pounds. I think he's gonna start to creep
Speaker 1: up a little bit more draft wars too, So I'm
Speaker 1: really excited about this edge class. Do you think that
Speaker 1: first pick will be either Thibodeaux or Um Hutchinson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. And you know we're still five months
Speaker 1: away from the draft, so we can't speak in absolute
Speaker 1: but Um, if I had to guess right now, and
Speaker 1: if I had to put one down and Sharpie and
Speaker 1: and who I had to guess would go number one
Speaker 1: over all definitely be one of those two. Will you
Speaker 1: give me which one do you think it is? So
Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards Hutchison just because you know, It's a
Speaker 1: great story him staying in state in Michigan angle him
Speaker 1: being the Michigan guy stand And this is assuming Detroit
Speaker 1: gets the number one overall pick, but it would be
Speaker 1: a great story for him being staying at home, being
Speaker 1: a hometown kid, and then going on to be the
Speaker 1: number one overall pick. He just seems like a Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell type of guy, just the way he loved the game.
Speaker 1: So I would go with Hutcheson right now. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: would pair well there with the defensive tackles I drafted
Speaker 1: this year and brought into Detroit this past season. I'm
Speaker 1: also hoping to get across the street here and go
Speaker 1: watch that Georgia Michigan game and get a chance to
Speaker 1: look at him firsthand. You're gonna be any of the
Speaker 1: college playoff games, Jordan's So I'm not gonna be at
Speaker 1: the college football playoff. Um, that's something I'm still working
Speaker 1: out the kingswith. I'm still a new guy at ESPN,
Speaker 1: so um, that's something that I do plan to do
Speaker 1: next year. I definitely want to get there for the
Speaker 1: next year's college Football Playoff, but I will be at
Speaker 1: the Duke Mayo Bowl between South Carolina North Carolina crossing
Speaker 1: my fingers that Sam How does play in that game,
Speaker 1: so I want to see him throw a live But
Speaker 1: also South Carolina has an edge rusher that I want
Speaker 1: to see in Kingsley, Kingsley and Knagbury. He's a player
Speaker 1: that I think is going to be in contention to
Speaker 1: be a top forty pig. So A crossing my fingers
Speaker 1: that both of those guys do end up playing. But
Speaker 1: if they don't, it's completely understandable. I'll cross my fingers
Speaker 1: for you on that too. And if you do come
Speaker 1: down for an Orange Bowl, look me up. We'll get
Speaker 1: together and and hang out. Let's go ahead and knock
Speaker 1: out these other three position groups here, starting with the
Speaker 1: off ball linebackers. What do you think about that group?
Speaker 1: Jordan's Yeah, I like this group a lot, especially at
Speaker 1: the top. Nakobe Deane from Georgia is one player that
Speaker 1: you hear about, and he's a player that I say
Speaker 1: he just plays like he has an energy. He just
Speaker 1: plays like he has a battery back in his back
Speaker 1: and it doesn't lose any not just on the battery
Speaker 1: at all. And he was the catalyst of that vauntage
Speaker 1: Georgia defense. Proud of them playing in Alabama. Of course,
Speaker 1: we were talking about this possibly being one of the
Speaker 1: best college defenses ever, but it doesn't take long to
Speaker 1: find number seven team where you're looking up that defense
Speaker 1: and there's so many talent to players on that group.
Speaker 1: It says a lot with him still still being able
Speaker 1: to stick out amongst his peers, in his counterparts in
Speaker 1: that defense. And another player that I absolutely love is
Speaker 1: Devin Lloyd from Utah. We saw what he was able
Speaker 1: to do in the PAC twelve championship game and converted
Speaker 1: safety um and he still has those loose movements that
Speaker 1: you see at the position. Fantastic and coverage, run hit
Speaker 1: type of linebacker was the physicality portions of the game.
Speaker 1: Has six and a half sacks this year, so that
Speaker 1: goes to show you that he's having a negative effect
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmers too. Yeah, fantastic goods value too.
Speaker 1: So I really like what Devin Lloyd brings to the table. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then the last linebacker that I wanted to mention,
Speaker 1: I think is an underrated player who was in the
Speaker 1: Kobe Dean's running mate was Channing Tendall. Never started a
Speaker 1: game at Georgia, but he's still was George's leading tackling,
Speaker 1: which I think says a lot about him. And he's
Speaker 1: about six ft two two and thirty pounds and once
Speaker 1: again another player that will see down at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: I think he's quickly gonna rise up draft boards just
Speaker 1: because he's gonna test really, really well. I really hope
Speaker 1: I get a chance to see Van Lloyd the Rose
Speaker 1: Bowl and he doesn't opt out for that game, because
Speaker 1: that wud be a fun one to watch for for
Speaker 1: college football fans everywhere and draft fans as well. Two
Speaker 1: more possession groups Jordans with the cornerbacks, Pat uh We
Speaker 1: had pass for Tango last year. He's having a great
Speaker 1: season so far this year. Is it still derekstintly the
Speaker 1: top of that class? Tv D? I say to be
Speaker 1: decided and you see extinctly go at the top of
Speaker 1: my draft right now. But that twenty nineteen season kinda
Speaker 1: has lost a little bit of his luster, especially with
Speaker 1: him being banged up over the past two years. But
Speaker 1: he still was a really good player. But it's just
Speaker 1: a matter of do you trust that elite level of
Speaker 1: play transitioning all way over from nineteen and he has
Speaker 1: some things that he needs to clean up as far
Speaker 1: as the injury, the durability stuff that he needs to
Speaker 1: go through, but as far as the patients um, just
Speaker 1: the technique that he plays with and just how dependable
Speaker 1: of a man covered corner that he could be. He
Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of Marshawn Lattimore when he was
Speaker 1: coming out of Ohio State and we saw an immediate
Speaker 1: impact that he was able to make being the defensive
Speaker 1: Rickie of the year, and then just how well of
Speaker 1: a career he's going on to half So extinctly still
Speaker 1: is the guy at the top, but it's just a
Speaker 1: matter of him answering some of those durability questions. But
Speaker 1: this group overall was by far my favorite the study
Speaker 1: of any of these groups, because I mean, we couldn't
Speaker 1: see as many as four or five guys go in
Speaker 1: the first round, and after stingly you're talking about tire
Speaker 1: elm from Florida, a player who has a very notable
Speaker 1: name as uncle was actually matt Eland that was the
Speaker 1: first round pick for the Baltomore Ravens a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Andrew Bluth junior from Clemson who really came on during
Speaker 1: the back stretch of the year. Last time we saw
Speaker 1: him was against South Carolina. He had two interceptions, should
Speaker 1: have been three in that game. Trim McDuffie is another
Speaker 1: name that through here from Washington. And then another player
Speaker 1: that I got to see live that I was blown
Speaker 1: away by. It was a my Soace Gardener from Cincinnati. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's every bit of six ft three about I would
Speaker 1: say he's probably about one ninety two d and nine pounds.
Speaker 1: But if you're looking for a good on good matchup
Speaker 1: that I think is gonna be box office worthy, watch
Speaker 1: him against Jamison Williams in the college football playoffs. You're
Speaker 1: talking about two players that I think are probably gonna
Speaker 1: be near the top or at the top of their positions. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, my eyes probably won't leave that
Speaker 1: matchup in that game coming up here on New Year's Eve. Now,
Speaker 1: you talked a little bit about there about Kayer Ellen
Speaker 1: and Matt Ellen, who was a safety. Go ahead and
Speaker 1: finish up there, Jordan. I'm one of these weird guys
Speaker 1: that loves watching the safeties. I've heard the other draft.
Speaker 1: You know, people gurus and analysts don't really prefer it
Speaker 1: because it's you only get a few notable impact plays
Speaker 1: per game. Do you feel that same way, And I
Speaker 1: was talking about your safety class here. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's the most difficult position to evaluate, just because let's
Speaker 1: just say you're talking about a free safety or you're
Speaker 1: studying and free safety and he's just sitting on the
Speaker 1: roof the entire game. But if you get a team
Speaker 1: that runs the ball thirty or thirty or five times
Speaker 1: in that game, they're just sitting back there, not doing anything.
Speaker 1: So you just feel like you wasted a whole hour
Speaker 1: watching this guy when you the same clean notepad that
Speaker 1: you had coming to the evaluation. You don't know anything
Speaker 1: about it. So it's just a matter of with safeties,
Speaker 1: you just have to be really patient when you're evaluating them,
Speaker 1: just because there's some games where they don't do absolutely anything.
Speaker 1: But those games that you do, you do see them
Speaker 1: wearing different hats or satisfying the roles and then playing
Speaker 1: in You just have to take as much as you
Speaker 1: can from those games. So you have to be patient
Speaker 1: with those safety evaluations, and I think it's by far
Speaker 1: the most difficult position to evaluate. Yeah, I agree, I
Speaker 1: agree with you on that, But at the same time,
Speaker 1: when they do show up, and that's why I get
Speaker 1: so excited about because they do come down and appear
Speaker 1: on the screen. It's like, oh, okay, he can play
Speaker 1: a little bit like I remember Derwin James is that
Speaker 1: way for me, and then obviously Javon Holland too recently.
Speaker 1: But who is who are those guys this year? Who's
Speaker 1: your possible top draft picks this year? At safety? I
Speaker 1: mean it all starts with Kyle Hamlets at the top.
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking about a player that possibly could
Speaker 1: go in the top five or six peaks and he's
Speaker 1: that term that we like to use in scouting and
Speaker 1: that he's just a unicorn. And everybody has seen the
Speaker 1: play that he made against Florida State of where he
Speaker 1: was the single as safety becomes all the way out
Speaker 1: off the center of the center field and then he
Speaker 1: comes all the way to the out of bounds line
Speaker 1: and makes an interception. Just having that type of range,
Speaker 1: the fluidity at six ft four two hundred and fifteen
Speaker 1: pounds and come down heel the way that he does
Speaker 1: and being able to strike ball carriers behind the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, has those long strides, He's able to cover
Speaker 1: a lot of ground, very physical as a run defender, two.
Speaker 1: But I think the one question that he's gonna have
Speaker 1: to answer on the next level is just man coverage,
Speaker 1: just because he wasn't used in that faceted lot at
Speaker 1: Notre Dame outside of the red zone. The red zone
Speaker 1: is really the only area of where they used them
Speaker 1: in the red zone, and then when they did, he
Speaker 1: got a couple of holding penalty. So it's just a
Speaker 1: matter of him getting more exposure in that area. But
Speaker 1: he's that type of player that makes everybody's job easier
Speaker 1: on the first and second level just because of the
Speaker 1: ground that he's able to cover in the hats that
Speaker 1: he's able to wear on the third level, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of like as you mentioned that Derwin James affected,
Speaker 1: where he's able to play so many different positions. Do
Speaker 1: you think he can wind up as a second pick
Speaker 1: in the draft after one of those defense events goes off,
Speaker 1: or maybe third behind both of them. I don't think so,
Speaker 1: just because of the position of value. It's very rare
Speaker 1: to see his safety goes that early. I don't think
Speaker 1: we've had a safety go top three since like the
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. The status escaping me. I actually looked it
Speaker 1: up this morning. I think it was like eighty one
Speaker 1: the last time we saw safety go top three, so
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll go that early, but I think,
Speaker 1: you know, top eight. I could see somebody investing in
Speaker 1: him that early. But this safety class is loaded and
Speaker 1: that's we did this out yesterday and that I think
Speaker 1: we could see as many as you know, six or
Speaker 1: seven go in the top one. And Jordan Battle from
Speaker 1: Alabama is one that I have enjoyed studying. We saw
Speaker 1: what he was able to do with the pick six
Speaker 1: in the SEC championship game. He really could add too
Speaker 1: if you would have caught the one in the first quarter.
Speaker 1: He's really played well during the back stretch of the season.
Speaker 1: Jaquan and Brisker is another player that I think is
Speaker 1: probably gonna get first round considerations from Penn State. He's
Speaker 1: that true traditional for free safety that I think also
Speaker 1: could come down and play in the box to the
Speaker 1: way that they have been able to use him. And
Speaker 1: you know one that I liked that I think is
Speaker 1: really underrated as Brian Cook from Cincinnati. I was able
Speaker 1: to see him play live along with my gardener down
Speaker 1: to East Carolina. I was really impressed by him. Daxton
Speaker 1: Hell was another player from Michigan that you're here about.
Speaker 1: That's played more of a nickel slot role, and I
Speaker 1: think that's probably what he's gonna have to be on
Speaker 1: the next level. So there's so many different shapes and
Speaker 1: sizes that these guys come in and different roles and
Speaker 1: they can satisfy. I would like to safety class a
Speaker 1: lot from top to bottom. That's awesome to hear Jordan,
Speaker 1: and the entire thing was awesome. Man. We appreciate your
Speaker 1: time so much today I'll let you get out of here.
Speaker 1: You been for the last hour, so I appreciate you
Speaker 1: taking some time. How you're did to make that happen.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? And when does your workload
Speaker 1: as far as publishing content really ramp ups? We can
Speaker 1: we can consume that as much as we possibly can. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you can find me on Twitter at Jordan's Underscore
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Speaker 1: E I D on Twitter, and then you can find
Speaker 1: all my work on ESPN dot com. Just have one
Speaker 1: article a week coming out right now. But once once
Speaker 1: we hit January and then postseason All Star Game circuit
Speaker 1: starts to ramp up, you start to see me more
Speaker 1: on sports Center. You'll see me more with Mail Kuyper
Speaker 1: and Todd mcshaye on some of our draft date type
Speaker 1: of profiles on each team and then position groups and
Speaker 1: things of that nature too. So I'm excited about doing
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, So be on the lookout for
Speaker 1: all of that. Yeah, man, I'm excited to watch all
Speaker 1: that and see you do your thing. Man again. Congratulations,
Speaker 1: And you got your check checkmark back, didn't you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got it back. That was on me though. I
Speaker 1: changed my name by accident and then I lost it.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if you change your name on Twitter
Speaker 1: that you lose your check one. So luckily, i'll ESPN
Speaker 1: was able to help me get that back. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I have to have that bad. Nice little flex there
Speaker 1: from the from the from the from the brand. They're
Speaker 1: not not too bad, Jordan. Thanks again, man, I'll let
Speaker 1: you get out of here. We appreciate your time today,
Speaker 1: my friend, no problem. Thanks as always, Travings, thanks for
Speaker 1: having me. It's always a pleasure being here with you.
Speaker 1: The very best in the game. And I know you
Speaker 1: guys probably couldn't. I know you couldn't see it because
Speaker 1: it's on a video that you don't get to see
Speaker 1: right now. But my face lit up when he talked
Speaker 1: about being on Sports Center to watch him go from
Speaker 1: you know, amateur draft analysts to the top of the
Speaker 1: top of the big leagues right now, no one's more
Speaker 1: deserving than Jordan Reads. Awesome to see. I cannot wait
Speaker 1: to watch him do his like like I mentioned on
Speaker 1: television with Milk Kuiper on Sports Center, all that fun stuff.
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