Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of The Black Effect
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Speaker 1: a legendary queen's rapper. He's like Green is your boy
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Speaker 1: What's going on as d J e F and this
Speaker 1: militating crazy wall drink chess? Yeah, yall banks up and
Speaker 1: right now. You know I usually do a big, illustrious,
Speaker 1: long intro, but what we're gonna do be a little late,
Speaker 1: so we on time, but we're gonna get to it
Speaker 1: right now. When I look at the left, I look
Speaker 1: at the NBA star person that was drafted first round,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Um went on, he had
Speaker 1: an illustrious career and then came out and then switched
Speaker 1: it all up after the NBA and invested in cannabis,
Speaker 1: and from what I believe, it is the first black
Speaker 1: owned cannabis company in California. I'm not sure we'll get
Speaker 1: to the that. Then the next brother right here, he
Speaker 1: worked with vir later rackets by later Management. I saw
Speaker 1: him in the office stretched out. I knew him when
Speaker 1: he had air. He worked with Kanye West, pure Kanye.
Speaker 1: He's got a lot to do with the air fact. Joe,
Speaker 1: Mr Elliott, anybody you want to you want to name,
Speaker 1: and the music business, John Monopoly has had a part
Speaker 1: of it. So case you don't know who we're talking about.
Speaker 1: So my al motherfucking heritage and John the monopoly. So John,
Speaker 1: I want to stop with you right because we read
Speaker 1: this article that comes out that says that you're the
Speaker 1: cheap strategy officer Village which is uh out, and are
Speaker 1: the partner they founded Village in Viola and together we
Speaker 1: are the largest black owned cannabis companies. Make some noise
Speaker 1: for that. That's what it makes the largest. It's the largest.
Speaker 1: How is the first? It's not the first, it's the largest, Okay,
Speaker 1: So what made you all right? Cool? Because he was
Speaker 1: burning when he was in the league, rights to it,
Speaker 1: all right, So that cool? You're playing. You you you
Speaker 1: get injured. You know what I mean, they prescribed you
Speaker 1: these these medications, right do you did you ever comply
Speaker 1: to that? Yeah? I mean obviously I had a bunch
Speaker 1: of injuries, So I had like twelve, I had twelve
Speaker 1: surgeries throughout my career. So I definitely had my fair
Speaker 1: share a c l back, both my shoulders, my hand.
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of stuff in my knees, both knees,
Speaker 1: so uh, you know, definitely had my fair share surgery.
Speaker 1: Definitely had my fair share prescriptions. And you know what's
Speaker 1: crazy about that is like when they give you prescriptions,
Speaker 1: they give you like endless amounts of prescriptions, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And then they wonder why guys end
Speaker 1: up you know, yeah, yeah, to give you a lot
Speaker 1: Molly poker set like that everything. Okay, what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: whatever you want for the most yeah, exactly. So you know,
Speaker 1: and and a lot of players, you know, suffer from that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, They get to the point
Speaker 1: where they struggle with addiction. And you know, obviously I've
Speaker 1: changed that perception, you know what I'm saying in regards
Speaker 1: to you know, professional athletes, and cannabis shoes. So he
Speaker 1: wasn't burning in the league. I was not. I just
Speaker 1: want to know. I was scared bro from Jersey, so
Speaker 1: like where I grew up, as you know, it's like, yeah, bro, range,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, waring drugs. You know, I
Speaker 1: was going in eighties, so you know I'm an eighties
Speaker 1: babies and I saw like kids get you know, locked up.
Speaker 1: You know, I've been stopped in frist because I was
Speaker 1: always bigging in my age. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that I looked or whatever. So I was always afraid
Speaker 1: of wead, you know what I'm saying. But when I
Speaker 1: got to the NBA, you know, getting drafted out of
Speaker 1: high school, first training camp, you know, some of the
Speaker 1: vets called me because they wanted me to make a
Speaker 1: store run for him. And when I get it's really
Speaker 1: like that they make the rookie go to the store.
Speaker 1: You gotta do everything, bro, Like you ain't got some cigars.
Speaker 1: I got two young to get cigars. I had to
Speaker 1: get like baby wipes, Baby's baby. Like, Bro, I walked
Speaker 1: in the room, Bro, cloud of smoke came out room
Speaker 1: and I walk in and then they're blowing it down.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking around and whatever. They like rookie batt
Speaker 1: and I say ship like I ain't gonna say nothing
Speaker 1: or whatever. So I run the store, do what I
Speaker 1: gotta do. And they really do call your rookie when
Speaker 1: you don't call you your name, but everybody here rookie,
Speaker 1: US three rookies on. So yeah, bro the next day
Speaker 1: and practice dog he was dogging into practice killing. No
Speaker 1: we his crea team. I don't know if you know
Speaker 1: what that, beau, his creer team is. Yeah, it makes
Speaker 1: you better team. That's good coming from John. You had
Speaker 1: one of the greatest opportunities in the world at one point,
Speaker 1: like he was directly working with Chris Lady and the
Speaker 1: later like how did that come about? And how did
Speaker 1: how did that happen? Um? I was a party promoter
Speaker 1: in Chicago and uh timbu two right, yeah, timbucto. He
Speaker 1: would he would j in my clubs back in the day,
Speaker 1: Dragon Room, Biology by all these clubs. Rest in peace,
Speaker 1: Tim and I became friends with somebody who used to
Speaker 1: come to my club who was friends with Chris, and
Speaker 1: she told Chris about this guy that was throwing parties
Speaker 1: like he did and managing Producers because I was managing
Speaker 1: and I at the time, but there was nobody. You
Speaker 1: couldn't you couldn't you could, you couldn't give us right
Speaker 1: now cool. So me and Chris got cool. He would
Speaker 1: let me take meetings with him, and then he was like, YEO,
Speaker 1: if you ever decided to come to New York, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll give you a shot. And I was a little
Speaker 1: little timid, but you know, I just I looked up
Speaker 1: to him so much. And and Mono, you know, embraced
Speaker 1: me in top Moscow Woods and I got cool with
Speaker 1: James Cruise and the whole crew. And so that's how
Speaker 1: I became a Violet and I'm a Violetist for life,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean to this day. But how
Speaker 1: different was that, like, you know, going for managing producers
Speaker 1: and then being a part of a company. Because this
Speaker 1: company is l L COO J. This is Miss Elliotts,
Speaker 1: the biggest, this was the biggest management company in hip hop.
Speaker 1: It was, uh, it was culture shock, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because I was, you know, a kid from
Speaker 1: Chicago trying to figure it out. And then I went
Speaker 1: to New York and all the stars that I had
Speaker 1: been seeing on television and trying to be around I'm
Speaker 1: not in business with I was. It was to me
Speaker 1: being having experience in violated Violator, you would be a
Speaker 1: part of Bolt, but then you would be a part
Speaker 1: of certain people's projects. So whose projects was you in
Speaker 1: charge of? Right? So I was the head of producer management,
Speaker 1: so I handled Missy Elliott to me and Missy did
Speaker 1: a project together for Monica. It was actually Monica's last
Speaker 1: hit album and it was like, was so gone on
Speaker 1: all these records? So I handed Missy Elliott. I had
Speaker 1: a seven A really is who was a huge producer
Speaker 1: for Murdering, which he'd be like, he's weird, he's weird,
Speaker 1: but he's done. So Havoc from mob D, who's incredible
Speaker 1: we work with have you know as recently as last
Speaker 1: year with yeah and um yeah absolutely his family of course. Um.
Speaker 1: So it was Havoc, Missy and Happen primarily and I'm
Speaker 1: sure I'm forgetting somebody, but those are like the main three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Because I was ahead of producer management, so I was
Speaker 1: just shopping everybody's beach, trying to keep them and working,
Speaker 1: you know, make sure our producers were constantly working. And
Speaker 1: now we got a space here, which one you want
Speaker 1: to open? I want a water. I can't drink Jesus
Speaker 1: the roads. All right, cool, I'm gonna let you open that, sir. Goddamn. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as approved was making wants the more, I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: with water somewhere. You know, I got hold bag of it.
Speaker 1: I think you left it. I let a whole or
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know. So all right, let's moving on this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta hold it in my hallway. So you get
Speaker 1: out the NBA. And how do you get this opportunity
Speaker 1: to become involved with cannabis, especially if you're sticking to
Speaker 1: your story, you didn't, Um, you ain't smoking the lead?
Speaker 1: So what made you start to say, you know what
Speaker 1: can in the business is my way of life? What
Speaker 1: happened for me? Um? You know when I was I
Speaker 1: went to I signed in Denver for the Denver Nuggets
Speaker 1: and uh, you know cannabis, was you gotta open that?
Speaker 1: I'm stay so yeah? So I so we went to
Speaker 1: Denver and you know out there that the cannabis programs
Speaker 1: was kind of just starting or whatever. And my grandmother
Speaker 1: seventy nine years or convince convinced of the um, come
Speaker 1: see me play and Normally she would say no, because
Speaker 1: you know she can't dry that she's not trying to go.
Speaker 1: But for some reasons she said yes. Put on the plane.
Speaker 1: She got there, took her bags down, said she had
Speaker 1: me bring a back back up. And as I'm bringing up,
Speaker 1: I can hear it shaking. It sound like a pill back.
Speaker 1: So I get it upstairs, put on the counter. She
Speaker 1: come upstairs. She opened it up and she takes like
Speaker 1: thirty pills. So I just look at it them, like, Grandma,
Speaker 1: are you taking so much medicine? What's going on? And
Speaker 1: she was like, I got high blood pressure, diabetes, glaucoma.
Speaker 1: And I was like, glaucoma, got coma. I was like Grandma.
Speaker 1: I was just like Grandma was just reading newspaper two
Speaker 1: days ago, how cannabis. I was calling the cannabis, How
Speaker 1: cannabis helps glad coma, and it does this that in
Speaker 1: the third and she said, are even more professional when
Speaker 1: we call the cannabis. I just feel like it's a
Speaker 1: lot easier for weed. And and it was cannabis in
Speaker 1: the article used to sound like crack. That's no, but
Speaker 1: that's what she called it. She was likely She asked me, like,
Speaker 1: what is cannabis, and I was like, marijuana weed. She's
Speaker 1: like read like a smoking and I was like, no, Grandma,
Speaker 1: looks like I said, it's medicinal as doctors prescribed this,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. She like no. Next day I come home,
Speaker 1: she's sitting in the kitchen and I'll come back from
Speaker 1: shooting around. She's sitting at the table like this. So
Speaker 1: I walked into my grandma, what's up? So she like squinted,
Speaker 1: She's like, is that you baby? Dogs? Like, yeah, how
Speaker 1: are you doing? She smoked it? No, it's not yet.
Speaker 1: She's just looking at she like she's like, my eyes
Speaker 1: hurt so bad today I can barely see. So I said, well, Grandmama,
Speaker 1: she just tried, you know, try to cannabis. And I
Speaker 1: was like the sea group won'ta tell nobody. I'm made
Speaker 1: so much paining day I try and I called my
Speaker 1: boy he bringing back vietnamuse and then the volcano back
Speaker 1: from her had a smoking right to stand. I didn't know, like,
Speaker 1: I'm not a smoke I didn't know. I just sounds
Speaker 1: because she goes and she's smoking and she's smoking and
Speaker 1: blowing it out her nose. And she didn't even blow
Speaker 1: I'm looking at him, like, Grandma, you showing you on
Speaker 1: smoke with blowing it out. So I taken outstairs. I
Speaker 1: go taking that hour in the athlete. I go check
Speaker 1: on her, and when I knocked on the door, I
Speaker 1: don't hear nothing. So I knock again. I opened the
Speaker 1: door and back to the door and she's looking down
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Grandma, how are you feeling? I gotta
Speaker 1: smirk on my face. And she turned around. She's crying
Speaker 1: to She's like, I'm helled. She's like, you're not having
Speaker 1: been able to read the words of my bike went
Speaker 1: over three years, she's downstairs reading a bikey weather. She
Speaker 1: got that much of candidate. So that's how I started, man,
Speaker 1: That's how we got into the game. And that's how
Speaker 1: I started to learn more about cannabis, and I learned how,
Speaker 1: you know, help kids with epilepsy and siegures, people that
Speaker 1: have like HIV and cancer termally ill like just a
Speaker 1: better quality and like because me, like me, I just
Speaker 1: want to get hot. Just being honest with you, right,
Speaker 1: but just being honest right. But there is like the
Speaker 1: medical benefits and all this that people like you. I
Speaker 1: love hearing stories where people like you when you actually
Speaker 1: have these better who benefits of it? Like, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like me, I like, I'm just being honest.
Speaker 1: I just want to get like I just don't want
Speaker 1: to be sober, right, But there is this medical benefits
Speaker 1: and have you been able to explore those? Yeah? Definitely.
Speaker 1: I mean you know, when we first started, one of
Speaker 1: our extractors or whatever, he had a patient that had
Speaker 1: like a hundred and twenty tumors on his lungs or whatever,
Speaker 1: and he saw to him making him miss Rick Simpson oil,
Speaker 1: which is pretty much all the cannabinoids and playing. Now
Speaker 1: I'm talking like a nerd ain't at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, he gave it to this dude. They gave
Speaker 1: him six months to live or whatever. He started eating
Speaker 1: them or whatever. Due ended up living like six years
Speaker 1: and all the tumors went off his lungs. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, these are like things that I'm
Speaker 1: seeing when I very first get into the game, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So and you go from that
Speaker 1: to like, you know, one of my aunties have breast cancer.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I made her capsule is
Speaker 1: the same thing she took them throughout her whole chemo.
Speaker 1: She gained eight pounds through chemo. You know, you know
Speaker 1: obviously you know I'm saying stuff like that, So you know,
Speaker 1: I just have all kinds of stories of like how
Speaker 1: magnificent this plan is. And it's just cool because we
Speaker 1: just beginning the journey to like run attack into figuring
Speaker 1: out all the things cannabis really can help. Now, how
Speaker 1: is it to get it into dispensaries because obviously they
Speaker 1: say that, Um, it's harder for for black people because
Speaker 1: we started later. It has been hard for you because well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's been difficult right in just serve areas.
Speaker 1: So every state is different, right, so you know some
Speaker 1: places is a lot easier to get you know, now
Speaker 1: dem is actually very very uh highly regulated. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: oversaturated too, but like it's the it's probably the tough.
Speaker 1: But I glom minds in Denver, right, So that's what
Speaker 1: is that easier easier for me? Yeah? Well, I mean
Speaker 1: you just gotta if you have a license, you have
Speaker 1: a license in that state, you can operate, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you'll work with somebody either for
Speaker 1: distribution to different things like that. So it just depends
Speaker 1: on the state's model. Every state is different, which is
Speaker 1: very difficult. And that's why when you really look at
Speaker 1: what we've been able to accomplish as being the biggest
Speaker 1: multi state you know, Black operating company is really really
Speaker 1: have to take your hats off to us because you know,
Speaker 1: currently we raised about thirty million dollars combining both companies,
Speaker 1: and our competitors have raised three, four or five hundred
Speaker 1: million and some of them not even around anymore, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you know, it's it's extremely difficult.
Speaker 1: It's very uh, it's very expensive, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: to operate because if you want to have quality, which
Speaker 1: which we smoke, you know what I'm saying, you have
Speaker 1: to grow it yourself. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 1: can't really rely on a partnership in another state to
Speaker 1: you know, pretty much grow you know, candidacy where you
Speaker 1: want to consistency across the states if you're gonna have
Speaker 1: a product to maintained. But not only that, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're come back too, but not only at Like I
Speaker 1: see you like in the Soul House and see you
Speaker 1: in l A and you will always like you know,
Speaker 1: pass off. And the good thing about it is you've
Speaker 1: never gave me something that was whack. And not only
Speaker 1: that it wasn't it was always greatly packaged. It's like,
Speaker 1: y'all take your time on packaging it. And and I
Speaker 1: think that a lot of times people just think that
Speaker 1: we're supposed to support black because it's black. We want
Speaker 1: to support quality, we want to support the best ship,
Speaker 1: and if it happens to be black, that's sucking awesome,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's one of the
Speaker 1: things that I loved about it. Like every time I was,
Speaker 1: you know, getting something that, always look at the quality.
Speaker 1: Always look how it's packaged, and look how it's roll,
Speaker 1: Look how it smells, look how and everything. So what
Speaker 1: made y'all like spend so much time in my opinion, Well,
Speaker 1: I always say, like, you know, for me, especially because
Speaker 1: I got into the Candidis game so late, and like
Speaker 1: having people like you, like when we did Biggs. When
Speaker 1: I think I'm at the first messig the second time
Speaker 1: me and you at the big birthday party, you know,
Speaker 1: the first thing you said to me when I gave
Speaker 1: you the wink, he was like, bro, straight up. He
Speaker 1: was like when somebody gave me a week before. I
Speaker 1: was like, it's a basketball player, just like gottest ship
Speaker 1: to the side. I finally got to smoke that. She
Speaker 1: was like this motherfucker's were smoking. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But you know, to your point, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: my whole thing is like playing the NBA sixteen years
Speaker 1: or One thing I learned with what they did with
Speaker 1: us was that they branded the hell out of us, right,
Speaker 1: So like when the season started, to give us ten
Speaker 1: sweat suits, they give us fifty pairs socks, hats, everything
Speaker 1: because it's the logo. It's like, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I realized that if you're gonna build a brand,
Speaker 1: that you got to be forward facing and at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, you gotta have products that people
Speaker 1: are gonna want to put up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So for us, like when we look at like packaging
Speaker 1: the product everything, we wanted to be the best of
Speaker 1: the best because to your point, right, we don't want
Speaker 1: you to support it just because we're black on when
Speaker 1: the super boats, because I should just fired, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The plus, you know what I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: give it like Our biggest thing is we want to
Speaker 1: give our community something that they can call their room.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, almost like the food model
Speaker 1: like when they was coming up. And one thing I
Speaker 1: can tell y'all, your packaging don't look like no other packages.
Speaker 1: Like me, I smoke everything every weed out there, right,
Speaker 1: And I want to even try to ship, like I
Speaker 1: want to try to ship like that's Bob. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't care. Let me you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I go buy it. And one thing for sure
Speaker 1: is everyone is kind of leaning towards like the sereal
Speaker 1: look the character and it's it's it's actually it's actually
Speaker 1: fucking up for the kids because it's cartoon. Is what
Speaker 1: made y'all. What made y'all say I'm gonna separate from
Speaker 1: that and like, you know, like it doesn't look like
Speaker 1: a cartoon. Well it's funny, right, It's because at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, the culture wants that, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I'm always a firm believe you
Speaker 1: kind of give the people what they want. But for us,
Speaker 1: we looked at it like we're gonna make that extra
Speaker 1: investment to kind of teach people who it's gonna look
Speaker 1: like in the future, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that's how we looked at that. Like with bags, you know,
Speaker 1: there's something to be said with bags made potentially keep
Speaker 1: the flower fresher and every things like that. We just
Speaker 1: felt like with the jars or whatever, like I wanted
Speaker 1: to be a surprise element, like you don't know what
Speaker 1: it is until you actually opening, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Bad motherfucker would do some lemon cherry gelato crazy in
Speaker 1: some violo galler I don't want to, don't. You don't
Speaker 1: got no insurance that is come up closes. You said
Speaker 1: you're smoking closes. That's well, I'm smoking a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of the ship too. You know, John Boom, you are
Speaker 1: not only Kanye West is like I want. Would you
Speaker 1: say somewhat of a mentor mentor No? No, brother, brother, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's I'm a couple couple of years older than him.
Speaker 1: So how how much did your phone ring after he
Speaker 1: left TMZ that day? It rain a little bit, I mean,
Speaker 1: but you know, we all go through what we go through.
Speaker 1: Something None of us are perfect. You know, maybe he
Speaker 1: made a mistakes here and there, but that's my brother
Speaker 1: you know, is what it is. How did you feel
Speaker 1: when he supported Trump? Um, it wasn't. It wasn't my
Speaker 1: personal take on how I do my politics. But I
Speaker 1: support him. That's my brother. I don't. I don't no
Speaker 1: matter what he does, you know, no matter how he
Speaker 1: decides to make put on his pants or wear a
Speaker 1: hat whatever, I shouldn't make me no mind. I love
Speaker 1: at How difficult is that? I don't know. I'm saying
Speaker 1: you agree with it or didn't disagree with it, But
Speaker 1: how difficult is that to have someone you call your
Speaker 1: brother and have him make a decision that the black
Speaker 1: community is just frowned upon? Is that difficult situation or
Speaker 1: is something that you used to because he's just in
Speaker 1: the public eye. I think, Um, I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was difficult, Just is what it is. I never
Speaker 1: really looked at it like I was under no extra
Speaker 1: pressure because my man was taking a particular stance. I
Speaker 1: think we're all free in this country to take whatever
Speaker 1: stands we want at any given time. And that's just
Speaker 1: what I say about that. What easy today for you? Man?
Speaker 1: I've seen a boast the gap the other day like
Speaker 1: this is this is you know, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: You know that jacket fire too. I just feel Gap
Speaker 1: is trash. I'm throwing it out there. If he can
Speaker 1: make Gap good, he's a bad motherfucker. Because listen, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, but he is a bad motherfucker. Yeah
Speaker 1: that too. Just watch, just watch if he gets me
Speaker 1: the wear guy. It's come on, but the jacket is
Speaker 1: all it's not my style. Okay, it's not my style.
Speaker 1: It's like the whole collection, the chance I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: a collection, the chance I'm gonna get a collection, the
Speaker 1: chance I wear Jess, I wear y Es. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: um but ga, that just like a weird like. That's
Speaker 1: like saying it's a personal thing. That's like saying, um, Elise,
Speaker 1: you remember Elise. That's like saying I'm bringing Elise back.
Speaker 1: You remember lottos? I lovember a lotto when you could you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do what I was talking about, y'all. Old Motherfucker's
Speaker 1: when I said, you know when you remember it up,
Speaker 1: you think us motherfucker could bring a lot on back,
Speaker 1: You gotta be a bad motherfucker. But let me ask
Speaker 1: if anybody could do it at the crop ships that
Speaker 1: he got us wearing, right, now we out a line
Speaker 1: in the world crazy, World Crazy. I don't wear them too.
Speaker 1: I don't get you want to tell you man, you
Speaker 1: want to come to so but is that the like
Speaker 1: the most difficult artists or the most unpredictable rather than not,
Speaker 1: let's not say difficult. What's the most unpredictable artists you've
Speaker 1: ever worked with? Probably Kanye Yeah, I managed Busted for
Speaker 1: a while. Gotta be yeah. I working with Bustle was
Speaker 1: always fun because I knew what it was coming. But
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, we might be here one day. I
Speaker 1: remember we was in Atlanta last year for three and
Speaker 1: a half months ago, were doing all this since and
Speaker 1: the next day we was gone. That's how he moved.
Speaker 1: That was part of the genius. And he's a superhero,
Speaker 1: so you can't funk with him. What's his white place
Speaker 1: in America? I mean, like, listen, man, that's just what
Speaker 1: Landa exactly he got. It's not my Knda bro, it's
Speaker 1: what Landa like because he got his own little white Harry.
Speaker 1: Y'all don't know what I'm talking about. Come on there,
Speaker 1: who know why it's only white? My brother never been
Speaker 1: there exactly. I mean, I ain't American sail listen to me,
Speaker 1: you know. But um, I see NAS go out there.
Speaker 1: Um this was actually the first time they invited me
Speaker 1: as press and um I didn't go, but this was
Speaker 1: the time to this coming. I think they've listen to
Speaker 1: NAS album on this album and the fact that I've
Speaker 1: seen people going crazy to go to Wyoming who've never
Speaker 1: been to Wyoming. I'm like, once you get there, once
Speaker 1: you leave, the rents just open. You can't go to
Speaker 1: seven of em nothing. They don't got a ya, none
Speaker 1: of that. So but how the hell because now I
Speaker 1: see Dave Chappelle. Now Dave Chappelle is doing the same thing. Well,
Speaker 1: I think, Hio, what does it want with these rich people?
Speaker 1: What do they do? They just they just go out
Speaker 1: there and just find out that nobody like you don't like?
Speaker 1: Now that's something. What doesn't mean? That's very too, that's
Speaker 1: very to piece of question. But why on me? That's
Speaker 1: like heavy Trump ship, that's Trump. No, it's not Trump,
Speaker 1: it's just heavy. Yeah, it's a lot of beautiful out there. Man,
Speaker 1: it really is. Come on, West, is it really is?
Speaker 1: It would be nice to you. I don't want you
Speaker 1: to listen, to be honest with you, if you're hanging
Speaker 1: with the right people, the right Republicans, you probably be good.
Speaker 1: But you know, for like, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like Democrats going out there, I'm just saying or liberal
Speaker 1: or you know in between. It's just a little crazy, man,
Speaker 1: It's a little crazy. So what I mean, I'm just
Speaker 1: being honest, like I'm not going to wire on me.
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest, like, it's not everybody. It's not everybody,
Speaker 1: but it is peace and quiet, it is piece and
Speaker 1: quite as beautiful. Yeah, you know that's you can get
Speaker 1: your zin chick. So do you smoke? I seen you
Speaker 1: looking at the smoke Champs. I smoked like a manniac. Okay,
Speaker 1: I seen you in Soho house. I'm no mallible, mallible.
Speaker 1: He was having dinner and and noble, God, damnit, shout
Speaker 1: out the noble and maniable. That's the best. That's the best.
Speaker 1: That's the best. And um the vibe, that's the vibe.
Speaker 1: I'm a restaurant guy. What's your favorite restaurant? Houston's hill Stones.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you some crazy shit. I love Hillstons.
Speaker 1: I hate Hillstones. It's the same. It's the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's me stones, but I love us. That's my favorite.
Speaker 1: That's your favorite favorite. If we had your last milling
Speaker 1: on earth, you would do it proticipe chicken. No, it
Speaker 1: depends on it depends. I might get the Hawaiian ribby
Speaker 1: all the ribs. Okay, okay, what's your favorite restaurant? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, that's the original Noble on the Hills. Uh,
Speaker 1: right down the block from the sls. Okay, I hate
Speaker 1: that spot. We did not know how to little. We
Speaker 1: did not know how to eat roll fish at the
Speaker 1: time he brung this us hood ass. We're sitting there.
Speaker 1: He ordered, what do you want it? He ordered the
Speaker 1: rest snap, But that's ship was like that. We don't
Speaker 1: want to act like so we even even Steve Rippin,
Speaker 1: but we don't want to act like we unsimilarized. So
Speaker 1: we all we all like that. Oh my god. We
Speaker 1: as soon as we finish, we go straight to fat
Speaker 1: Bird like yo, no, no, the same thing we that. No,
Speaker 1: you gotta go get something to the mcdowald's Gonna Street.
Speaker 1: Mcdowald's Street, for somebody is the best McDonalds in the world.
Speaker 1: I don't know why they gotta have the organic food
Speaker 1: came our favorite food. Fish I'm gonna be in once
Speaker 1: a weekend. I go to the organic food Kings. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Well, I go veg it wants
Speaker 1: a meal like everyone. Yeah, like you know what instead
Speaker 1: of like breths, thenner you go blunches out of here,
Speaker 1: going foolcage. You're organic. I'm a ship all day. God
Speaker 1: damn vegan food vigging vegan? Oh man, ship? Did you
Speaker 1: name your rest your favor restaurant? Okay, how about you?
Speaker 1: Bro mean? I like Brimstone the steak House and pember
Speaker 1: Punstone firing Brimstone. That a little sick? All right? Now?
Speaker 1: All right? What was yours? Yours? Noble? I'm a whole
Speaker 1: yeah kind of yeah. I'm finger popping everything. I'm finger
Speaker 1: popping every restaurant. I love it. I love it. I'm sorry, man,
Speaker 1: I'm just I just put Yeah, I'm a Dantanna Craigs,
Speaker 1: car Bone Noble crustaceans. You'll listen. It's been time I
Speaker 1: thought I went to l A just for crustaceans. I'm
Speaker 1: just being honest. They got cocaine and their noodles never
Speaker 1: ever had theirs, all the noodles, all my said dress up.
Speaker 1: Every time you put on hard bottoms in the in
Speaker 1: the college shirt did get in. I'm not even gonna
Speaker 1: tell it. You crustaces. Me and Fat Joe get bit
Speaker 1: one night. We just we fucked up. We're walking crust states.
Speaker 1: We got on nothing but sweatsuits. They shut us down, Yo, brothers,
Speaker 1: you can't come in here. The whole restaurant is looking
Speaker 1: like that's fucking Maria facto. Me and Fat Joe's too
Speaker 1: intosticated to say something intelligent back to the major D.
Speaker 1: So we're just like, I fucking fuck you were never
Speaker 1: coming back here? Oh fuss fuck you. The next day
Speaker 1: I go there, I get a dress up shirts, I
Speaker 1: get address this. I don't tell Fat Joe we need
Speaker 1: to commitment not to go in. We said for this place.
Speaker 1: I walk in and he looked like ire he coming back.
Speaker 1: It was great. It's a great time. But yeah, l
Speaker 1: A l A Cuisine, So y'are both live in l
Speaker 1: A Right, it was shut down. Yeah, y'all was shut down,
Speaker 1: shut down, shut down from shut down. How so how
Speaker 1: was that? Like y'all was quarantine. Y'all was quarantine, and
Speaker 1: when quarantine was over, that's it was crazy like like
Speaker 1: out there it had me feeling like if I left
Speaker 1: the crib, I was gonna get Corona Bro. They had
Speaker 1: this thing and that ship was like everywhere it was
Speaker 1: it was. It was Miami, Miami been open, it was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it been. It's been disrespectful, Rose Trees all comp was
Speaker 1: crazy to be glad you drink with me? You know,
Speaker 1: So John Music industry, all this luxurious things going on,
Speaker 1: You're going to switch to cannabis. Um. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's switching. I'm diversifying. I like that word. You know,
Speaker 1: we do first of far off sorry missing you know.
Speaker 1: I mean I still work full time with you and
Speaker 1: still involved in a couple of different things. But I'm definitely, uh,
Speaker 1: heavily involved in this. I'm proud to be working with
Speaker 1: these brothers and about to take over the world. How
Speaker 1: about um, is there any other clients that you work
Speaker 1: with that is involved with cannabis? Any other clients? Um? No,
Speaker 1: this is the only My only cannabis venture is Village
Speaker 1: Viola cool? And are you trying to get it into Chicago? Chicago? Yeah? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and we're working on getting a license in the state
Speaker 1: of Illinois. Make some noise for that. Is there any
Speaker 1: full side they're going federal from your perspective, I'm not
Speaker 1: an expert in that. I'm honestly new to the space,
Speaker 1: so I'd rather not answer. Um, what do you think
Speaker 1: on that? Yeah, I think that within the next I
Speaker 1: mean obviously within the next ten years, that's like a
Speaker 1: big number, but maybe like next administration, like web becomes
Speaker 1: in next I think we'll probably push it to imagine
Speaker 1: preparing for that, because that's but if they do that,
Speaker 1: are they doing that state from state? Are they gonna
Speaker 1: do with the whole United It would be federal would
Speaker 1: be federal alcohol, like what happened with it, so they
Speaker 1: don't have to do with state like let's can can
Speaker 1: Minnesota say I'm a federal legalized that can that happen?
Speaker 1: Or whole federal would be the whole United States. I'm
Speaker 1: sure each state can tweak certain details of the laws,
Speaker 1: just like you know, the same thing with alcohol, but
Speaker 1: that would be the game change, like having potency like
Speaker 1: in Utah you can't like the liquids different you know,
Speaker 1: percentages in Utah the rest of the country, So changes
Speaker 1: like that, Like Um and Denver you could buy psychedelics, yeah, tabs,
Speaker 1: acid and what's the other ship? Yeah, you can buy
Speaker 1: that ship the aid though I don't know by yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's a natural version of acid, like a natural
Speaker 1: person like kind of only. The only place in that
Speaker 1: country where you could do everything legally is in Oregon,
Speaker 1: real Oregon. Everything. Nobody don't want to go to Oregon, right,
Speaker 1: nobody except for the Nike outlet. That's it. Right, It's
Speaker 1: like it's gonna go to the Knight Doud and that's it.
Speaker 1: Let's get the funk about it there. Let's see the Oregon.
Speaker 1: But that's where everybody, y'all, you could do anything you
Speaker 1: want to or anything you want. Things about hooks too,
Speaker 1: that's New York, New York by hookers. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: they said they know the sex crime is not a
Speaker 1: crime no more. They say, go fuck but you know
Speaker 1: if it's basically because it's a girl now, because it's
Speaker 1: a girl like Vegas in New York, I think so
Speaker 1: they got the rent like district, like we gotta take it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just sit around even this kind of love me a smile.
Speaker 1: He's like it's gonna be like men and oh my god,
Speaker 1: all right, man, is it quick time of slive? Yet? No? Really? Alright? Cool?
Speaker 1: So he's not drinking. So this is this is on you,
Speaker 1: all right, So this is this is what happens, This
Speaker 1: is what this is what happened as a partnership. Right,
Speaker 1: so um quick, time of slime is very quick. You
Speaker 1: just name one or the other if you do want
Speaker 1: to name both, which we've set it up for you
Speaker 1: to name both because we feel like you're friends with both.
Speaker 1: So you just say both, and then you take a
Speaker 1: shot for it's no, it's nothing big, whatever shot you
Speaker 1: want you like, this is this is the summer. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we got to kill the guy black owners the killer too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta killer dam Every time I say booth, well
Speaker 1: taut with you. We're gonna take a shot with you,
Speaker 1: like first first old Thomas, first question. I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna take a shot. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Let's let's figure this out. Okay, are we ready? Quick
Speaker 1: time a slid? All right, but get a shot though,
Speaker 1: let's get ready. Let's get ready with the shot. Alright, cool, yeah,
Speaker 1: the first one and three I think you taking a
Speaker 1: shot in my opinion, I'm not sure. All right, let
Speaker 1: me do. I'm taking one with you though, Like I said,
Speaker 1: all right, here we go. Every time you take one.
Speaker 1: There's a couple. There's a couple one here. All right,
Speaker 1: are you ready? Even questions? Bro? Get ready? All right?
Speaker 1: Cool nas or jay z damn jay z. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: that was the mom. Okay, respect or loyalty. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: get let's get let's set them. We're not leaving you
Speaker 1: out there at alone. This is we with the guests.
Speaker 1: We're not leaving you out there alone. Baby ship sports
Speaker 1: edition drinking sport. Oh yeah, y'all gotta take shots to
Speaker 1: come on, come on, get your shots together, relaxed. I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about let's like we're gonna give him a
Speaker 1: shot to take a bone later though, just just for
Speaker 1: him to feel a part of the s V. That's
Speaker 1: the best way to describe it. All right, come on,
Speaker 1: let's go. I'll need a little ice, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: But boom, yeah, he might as well keep him loaded
Speaker 1: up because this text. Next one is gonna be it
Speaker 1: too slut Yeah, STU, all right, pretty, let's go DX
Speaker 1: or tupap another one. Let's go take that shot. Come on,
Speaker 1: when he got a little shot. But I'm all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you take this shot. But then this
Speaker 1: next one, I don't know since we got we never know,
Speaker 1: we never know, all right, in the camera solo solotlettle
Speaker 1: a little m hm. Alright. This next one, I don't
Speaker 1: know Miami or Toronto. Oh my god, are you right?
Speaker 1: My lord? Miami? Like this one, I don't know nineties
Speaker 1: or two thousand hip hop? I go uh two Thousand's okay?
Speaker 1: This one is up in the air for real or
Speaker 1: Kanye both? All right? We need them both for the culture,
Speaker 1: all right, I don't I don't want to. I'm gonna okay,
Speaker 1: I'm bugging out. I'm bugging out. I'm bugging now. I'm
Speaker 1: bugging now. All right, we move both of them. Bro Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's skip this one, but I'll come back to this one.
Speaker 1: Make sure I'll come back to it. Has Um sour
Speaker 1: or O G O G good one. Alright, This one
Speaker 1: is up in the air, Cardi bat or Nicki Minaj.
Speaker 1: Get your shot ready, No, I could pick I could
Speaker 1: pick a back. I'm gonna go with Nicki Minaj. Okay,
Speaker 1: Queen's in the building, all right, No, you can answer this,
Speaker 1: Pap Daddy or Chris Lady. You couldn't have me answer
Speaker 1: that one. So I'm gonna say pump okay, alright, okay,
Speaker 1: podcast or radio radio Okay, all right, this is for
Speaker 1: you now, depending on how you answer, hes gonna take
Speaker 1: the shot Kanye West or common sense. You can say both.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna Kanye. Yeah, okay, that's real. That's my dog. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is for you too, major or independent? Now independent?
Speaker 1: That was smooth, Okay, No I d or Kanye. Let
Speaker 1: him take a shot. Shot man, my brother. Yeah. You
Speaker 1: don't want to have to go back to Chicago. You
Speaker 1: don't look on any given Sunday Kanye got him fading, Okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: and no ideas obi wan, but all right, it is
Speaker 1: what it is. This is gonna suck you up. You're ready.
Speaker 1: J Cole or kind both get your shout. What you
Speaker 1: thought about J coole new album Love? We didn't about
Speaker 1: him playing the African League, Well, I thought it was
Speaker 1: dope earlier white. He's really I don't know. It seems
Speaker 1: like it ain't work out right. They lost, like an
Speaker 1: elimination thing or whatever. Right. He said that he had
Speaker 1: personal reasons he had to go back to the States,
Speaker 1: but I think he just got a lot of slack
Speaker 1: because people were mad that he got the position, and
Speaker 1: there were other players that were up for it, but
Speaker 1: just because he got the name whatever, Yeah, le he did,
Speaker 1: he did. He played all right too. I've seen the
Speaker 1: couple of games. All right, hold on, damn, what is okay? Here?
Speaker 1: We are all right, both of y'all. Foxy Brown, a
Speaker 1: little camp ship. I'm gonna say Foxy mm, I say
Speaker 1: both Bro, they let's go back there. We're not around
Speaker 1: watching this man. Yeah, that's how I feel. That's how
Speaker 1: I feel. This motherfucker. Hold on, hold on, tell you
Speaker 1: if we want to know, bro, is the first time
Speaker 1: I take? It's getting funky right now, Biggie or big Punt? So,
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't matter somebody taking a shot, big Biggie. Okay,
Speaker 1: what's up? What's up all y'all? So for me, like
Speaker 1: when I was when I was my senior in high
Speaker 1: schools and pun was like on this little run and
Speaker 1: I could see him. I can sneak into this one
Speaker 1: club in Manhattan. It seemed like every time I went,
Speaker 1: he was always in there. The Mage spot right off
Speaker 1: because I even went there after my high school street.
Speaker 1: It's right off of is the West Side Highway. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's that's the carpet of the Yeah, that's the one
Speaker 1: place I could sneak into it is the seventeen eighteen
Speaker 1: year olds, And it seemed like Poe was always in there,
Speaker 1: so obviously I would be like Biggie, right, just because
Speaker 1: I know, like you got a relationship. Take a shot,
Speaker 1: shot man, I don't worry about it, man, this is
Speaker 1: what we do. M over there, turn around. We were
Speaker 1: oh man, okay, we only got two more. Alright, Hey,
Speaker 1: nobody gave you the authority to have anything. You got
Speaker 1: to relax. I know I was coming back to that one,
Speaker 1: all right, Um Lebron or Jordan's Jordan? Yeah, Jordan? Want
Speaker 1: to serious? All right? This is Bron his number two
Speaker 1: hands down like hands down, ain't on discussion, but he
Speaker 1: got knocked out of the first round. And I'm just asking.
Speaker 1: I'm just asking. It's just like I think. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's just saying he wanted he got a movie coming
Speaker 1: out space jam Yeah, to promote that I made more
Speaker 1: money off that championship. I love your political asset. I
Speaker 1: love that. I love times the Bron. What's most important.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna seeve you Burner Bron before because you see
Speaker 1: drinking on lean Branny game. I think that was a
Speaker 1: right yeah, all right, and this is the last one.
Speaker 1: We got one more after this, after this one. This,
Speaker 1: This should be pretty easy for you. Bowls are the Knicks. Knicks.
Speaker 1: I'm not asking you, okay, because I know you're just
Speaker 1: gonna go both. Okay, I'm changing it up a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're gonna say. I think I
Speaker 1: should know what you're gonna say. Drink Champs or All
Speaker 1: the Smoke podcast. That's crazy question that shot to the shot, bro,
Speaker 1: Come on, don't hurt my feelings. Yeah yeah, who who
Speaker 1: match did our show? He did our show and last
Speaker 1: they're supposed to come to ast you man um man,
Speaker 1: um he did our show, but I think he did.
Speaker 1: He did our show. He was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I could do this ship too, and they grow and
Speaker 1: this show was great. Great. I love how because to me,
Speaker 1: that's the drink Champs of sports, Like like, um how
Speaker 1: they do it because they know y'all, Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's the same way we know that
Speaker 1: the artist and you know what I mean. Um, so
Speaker 1: I picked him up but um yeah, that was I
Speaker 1: switched it. I ain't gonna give it that. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? You mean yeah, I sound like DMX.
Speaker 1: Oh I gotta check my phone. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't got I ain't got. I ain't got hash
Speaker 1: oh oh oh this is the read this out out broke,
Speaker 1: Come on les Le, prostitution is legal. Yeah, out to
Speaker 1: the weirdo man man hands the whole city. Just man,
Speaker 1: oh ship, that's fun. Up the Stroke coming back the
Speaker 1: Brons where Huts Point is? Yeah, East New York. Let's
Speaker 1: not forget East New York. Damn the week Brother James,
Speaker 1: Holy movie got the moody god, damnit. Someone said, why
Speaker 1: does Boopy episode y'all had? I ain't never had none
Speaker 1: of that. They never had. I know, I get it.
Speaker 1: You ain't burning the NBA neither, I get it. Of
Speaker 1: the good guys. He was one of the Jersey bro
Speaker 1: Square Square, I know where you're from, brou Jery man.
Speaker 1: He want to rep it with you, man, so he
Speaker 1: told him, thank you. Yeah, man. I asked me though,
Speaker 1: coming from St. Patrick's, you know, Carrie Irvan came from St.
Speaker 1: Patrick Michael kick Good, Chris came. What was that recipe?
Speaker 1: Like they developed NBA players like now, so I coached.
Speaker 1: His name Kevin Boyle, so he down in Mount Verde Academy.
Speaker 1: Now he just he a master bro, Like he just
Speaker 1: know how he knows how to get the best out
Speaker 1: of us, you know what I'm saying. So like he
Speaker 1: was the first who ever played for that like cuss
Speaker 1: me out or like, but it's just somehow he motivated
Speaker 1: you to just always want to be better, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, that you're thinking about like all the
Speaker 1: other niggas he got in the league now, like Joel
Speaker 1: and b and the kid kid coming him coming in
Speaker 1: the league, Like he got monsters, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So he just can't identify talent. Because even when he
Speaker 1: picked me, bro, Like when he grabbed me from my
Speaker 1: high school went to Rozelle High School. I moved from
Speaker 1: Orange to Roselle and my freshman year I didn't even play.
Speaker 1: And then he seen me playing in the tournament in
Speaker 1: summer and pretty much convinced me to come to an
Speaker 1: all basketball school. And I ended up going from an
Speaker 1: unranked sophomore to the number one playing the country under
Speaker 1: like him and my a. But like how you felt
Speaker 1: becoming that from nobody to us, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know better. Bro, You're seventeen years old, dog, and
Speaker 1: the ship happened so fast and obviously like back then
Speaker 1: it wasn't like social media and ship like that. So
Speaker 1: when you was grinding, he was really grinding. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Really here getting reps off like it
Speaker 1: was stories like MS told about you. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. At that time, you know you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But like once I got to that level,
Speaker 1: getting to the league, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: walked in the first time in practice, like I said,
Speaker 1: even though niggas was bowling, like I felt like I
Speaker 1: was just as good as them. Player ever played against
Speaker 1: Grant Hill, hands down Grant. Like if Grant Hill did
Speaker 1: not if he did not get hurt, if he didn't
Speaker 1: get hurt, he would have had like Lebron kind of
Speaker 1: like numbers, Bro, Like you played against the bron I
Speaker 1: played against Brian Bronze. Obviously he's Bron's number two, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like he's the second. About Kovid,
Speaker 1: Kobe is probably three. You got Kovid have to Lebron.
Speaker 1: You want to make one thing, it's over stuff a long.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I live in that late so everybody
Speaker 1: want me to say Kobe, but like Bron, I like
Speaker 1: you keeping it with what what Brian does and brings
Speaker 1: to the game. He's a hard player. I haven't done
Speaker 1: that and he's done it for eighteen years at twenty
Speaker 1: five tenants and like, come on, dudes, don't do that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So he's definitely different. Never
Speaker 1: played against Jordan. I played against Jordan too, because Jordan,
Speaker 1: that's still Jordan. If you still on him, that's posts
Speaker 1: still working. So my story one time we're playing them
Speaker 1: in d C and somehow I get into it with him,
Speaker 1: Jordan shure. So you always like growing like growing up.
Speaker 1: The whole minute of that. The stories is like you
Speaker 1: never say nothing back to Michael Jordan. You see something,
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, He's gonna be like he's the person from
Speaker 1: the Wizard of Ours that you don't see but you
Speaker 1: hear exactly. Just don't say nothing to him. I feel me,
Speaker 1: but I said something, How does this happen? What's going on?
Speaker 1: We're just in the game. Is something happened? I ain't
Speaker 1: failing me, like you found me something something because he
Speaker 1: called everybody a home. That was his thing. Ever, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, just calm that. Okay, let's calm that. I
Speaker 1: got me. So wait a minute. So he goes for
Speaker 1: a shot. He thinks you found him, and he says,
Speaker 1: he found me up. I found him. I did found him,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, at the ref, I don't even touched him.
Speaker 1: You found me home. I'm like, man, who are you
Speaker 1: calling the hole? You know young from Joe? You don't
Speaker 1: know no better like I called you like I called
Speaker 1: you a home And I'm like, all right, So we
Speaker 1: go at it. So but he had forty one. I
Speaker 1: finished the game with thirty seven. But they won it.
Speaker 1: So they win the game. Whatever. I'm in the back mad,
Speaker 1: whatever we lose or whatever. And the ball boy comes
Speaker 1: walking in with his sneakers with Jordan and it's like
Speaker 1: it's like best wishes, keep working hard. I't even asked
Speaker 1: him for his shoes. Dude, shoes, did your kids shoes? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't even asked him shoes. Brot he said. But
Speaker 1: that's some ship that you could tell. Jordan gets the
Speaker 1: game like he gets like he gets like going at him,
Speaker 1: like I even think like even the Alan iverson moment
Speaker 1: where Alan like crushed them over. I felt like Jordan
Speaker 1: got hyped course to that, like like I cool, Like
Speaker 1: even when he talked about Kobe, he said that Kobe
Speaker 1: like whatever, he said that Kobe's friend of rule. He
Speaker 1: said that dat it was competitive to the very last minute.
Speaker 1: Is that's really like how the NBA is, Like, no,
Speaker 1: it is, did not know he was calling his host
Speaker 1: that's crazy you get from the East Coast. But it's
Speaker 1: like then Kevin gard Kevin Gardeck and PJ. Tucker they
Speaker 1: look that Look, that's the first time I felt like
Speaker 1: NBA got real again. Katie did. But but they but
Speaker 1: they but they went to college, They went to Coe
Speaker 1: when somewhere showing that stage at this bit right, sob
Speaker 1: like Katie came, you know what I'm saying. Something happened.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So let me because I'm
Speaker 1: bouncing around, right, I'm bouncing around everything. What do you
Speaker 1: feel about these super teams because right now it just
Speaker 1: feels like everyone is just like basically getting down with
Speaker 1: the gang. That's popping whoever let whoever got the best,
Speaker 1: Like well, I don't like, I mean, we don't like it.
Speaker 1: But it's just that's what the game is now. So
Speaker 1: you got to evolved with the times who fussed up
Speaker 1: the game for the super teams. I think Brian going
Speaker 1: to Miami is what started it, you know what I'm seeing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that that's what started Paul ray Allen and that
Speaker 1: that was a little different though, Yeah that wasn't one right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was still different like Brian going there and
Speaker 1: then like orchestrating that that wasn't orchestra that was Those
Speaker 1: was trades, you know what I'm saying. Like they were
Speaker 1: free agents with their free and they exploded. Of course,
Speaker 1: I who don't want to live in Miami and win championships?
Speaker 1: Mean why not? It's like living in l A winning championships.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. There's certain places where it's like,
Speaker 1: but we need to bring one back to New York though, bro,
Speaker 1: Like we don't look good to win the chip. I
Speaker 1: want to win. I want to win games. Bro. Like,
Speaker 1: if you think about coaching, you think about coming to coaching.
Speaker 1: Everybody cannabis. We're playing the team. We ain't working for
Speaker 1: nobody else, but we're working for no body. That's beautiful.
Speaker 1: What made you? That's what I'm saying, what made you
Speaker 1: didn't want to get down with all these other candidates
Speaker 1: companies already operated? What made you want to be black owned?
Speaker 1: I guess uh. You know when I first started like
Speaker 1: it was no option, I ain't had no way to go.
Speaker 1: Like now, remember now it's popular, bro, this We just
Speaker 1: we celebrating our teena anniversary of this ship. Take a
Speaker 1: shot for that. Take a shot for that ten year
Speaker 1: anniversary ship. And by the way, I'm drinking watermelons. Wellness, wellness, yes,
Speaker 1: salute man, the ten years of Viola and Harrison willness
Speaker 1: got damnit. So look what are you toasting with beer for?
Speaker 1: Come on by the mamajuana so is And this is
Speaker 1: the question for both of y'all. Is it really green gold?
Speaker 1: That's because that's how they're describing it right now. It's
Speaker 1: it's the green gold rush of everybody is you know,
Speaker 1: I got friends and I got people that know that
Speaker 1: invested in tobacco. When Chris was alive, I wanted to
Speaker 1: do a cigarette. I don't know what Chris like he did.
Speaker 1: I said, you had to change. I had to change,
Speaker 1: and I wanted I said Chris like, I don't know
Speaker 1: what he did, but he came back and said to me,
Speaker 1: we're not working with tobacco at all. And I don't
Speaker 1: know what he was. I've never seen like white, like
Speaker 1: white under his face, Like he was like like whatever
Speaker 1: he did, he tried to explore, like trying to get
Speaker 1: Newport to be like diligence and what and it was
Speaker 1: like that was the mafia, right, No, just in general,
Speaker 1: it was just bad. Yeah, Like if you notice, the
Speaker 1: only people that's doing tobacco that's like us is you
Speaker 1: have to do it in the Dominican Republic because I
Speaker 1: have to grab Mike, grab relief, grab a leef Dominican Republican.
Speaker 1: So what makes y'all say all right? Cool? Like, for instance, um,
Speaker 1: what was I saying before that? I was the green rush,
Speaker 1: that's what they call the green gold is? Is this
Speaker 1: what you guys feel that? This is what this is? Now?
Speaker 1: This is definitely the industry to be in, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Um, until like we fix like the
Speaker 1: tax laws around cannabis. It's hard for us to really
Speaker 1: make money in cannabis. Explain that because we can't write
Speaker 1: anything off. So there's a tax officer or two a
Speaker 1: d or whatever which you can write off like ordinary expenses.
Speaker 1: So like normally, like if you work for me or whatever,
Speaker 1: this is my employee, I can usually write you off
Speaker 1: through the business. In cannabis, you can't. So at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it takes away from all of
Speaker 1: our margin, you know what I'm saying. Essentially to run
Speaker 1: these businesses now cultivation, which means like actually growing the plant.
Speaker 1: That is probably the most profitable part of the business,
Speaker 1: the most difficult. It is the most difficult hands indoor
Speaker 1: operation though, right and no matter where is that it
Speaker 1: can fail, can go bad. Bro you can get bugs,
Speaker 1: you can kind of you get mold, all these different
Speaker 1: things that can affect the plant in which will make you,
Speaker 1: you know, especially in legal environments, its test thing, so
Speaker 1: they test for all this stuff they're regulated to so
Speaker 1: you if you you know, have if you cross certain
Speaker 1: thresholds or whatever, you literally have to throw your entire
Speaker 1: crop out. And it depends on the side, you know,
Speaker 1: Like for us, like our biggest facility in Michigan, we
Speaker 1: produced three hundred pounds of money I'm saying, but that's
Speaker 1: equivalent to like seven hundred to a million, seven hundred
Speaker 1: thousands to a million dollars in revenue per month. You
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying. And if you have one of
Speaker 1: those issues, bugs won't any of that. We literally got
Speaker 1: to throw it away. Yeah yeah, so and you don't
Speaker 1: know the quality of that. But until it's blooming, until
Speaker 1: it's done, until you actually get it tested, you know
Speaker 1: that's the results. Yeah, wow, damn yeah, man, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's extremely difficult, bro. And that's what I try to
Speaker 1: tell people, like, don't think that like this ship is easy.
Speaker 1: It's not easy at all, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because you know, in our teen year journey, we've had
Speaker 1: a lot of ups and downs. So how many other
Speaker 1: black owned cannabis companies do you see out there? Black Latino,
Speaker 1: same thing you see other people that's minorities, that's there's
Speaker 1: other companies out there. You know. You got like gas House,
Speaker 1: you got House gas House, you got Ball Family Farms,
Speaker 1: you got Family Farm, Ball Family Farms. Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: like like like like blacks another dude, um, you know
Speaker 1: you got him, you got bluntsed more what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So there's a couple of companies out here at a
Speaker 1: black own that's out here doing anything or whatever. Is
Speaker 1: there ever any fear that like big Tobacco will just
Speaker 1: try to take over the industry. It's big fear that,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And that's that's how they're
Speaker 1: gonna set it up. I mean, if you look at
Speaker 1: like Amazon just recently announced it they're no longer testing
Speaker 1: their employees for cannabis, giving you signs that obviously Amazon
Speaker 1: want to be the biggest distribute of the week, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So like these are the things
Speaker 1: that I'm looking at as I'll sit back and look
Speaker 1: at the industry and what's going on, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But yes, tobacco companies are gonna come in,
Speaker 1: they're gonna try to buy I think the brands that
Speaker 1: are making the most noise, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: So like the violas and the cookies and different things
Speaker 1: like that that out there really moving a lot of products.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on yeah, damns but left
Speaker 1: Rock yeah, we all we all drink chas Lave, yeah
Speaker 1: right now through businesses, I think. So, I mean, just
Speaker 1: like this distribution is becoming a big thing, you can
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I could see them
Speaker 1: trying hit me up hit me up. I see you
Speaker 1: have black family, Flower come on family. So what I'm
Speaker 1: doing is, uh, We're gonna create like our own like
Speaker 1: maybe Collis you might to call it. But eventually, like
Speaker 1: I vision black Flower family being like wait wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait a minimum, wait a minute, you just say black
Speaker 1: let I need to be down. I need to be
Speaker 1: damn with black Flower Family. I don't need that ship
Speaker 1: gonna be. It's gonna be all the black owned cannabis brands,
Speaker 1: Monogram Cannabis, every Monogram, whoever. It is like us being together.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because I think that yeah,
Speaker 1: black Wall Street, but you know I got this black
Speaker 1: Flower family like bff. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that's my vision of that is like all black you know,
Speaker 1: own brands kind of working together. And I think that
Speaker 1: at some point, if we, you know, continue to build together,
Speaker 1: we can start dictating a lot of the way to
Speaker 1: the market. You know what I'm saying. Could we push everything, bro,
Speaker 1: like this man Virgil and all like think about it, bro, everything, music,
Speaker 1: fucking fashion, everything, But it started with us, Bro, Like
Speaker 1: they use us and we take ship and make it
Speaker 1: those viral. You know what I'm saying that's how I
Speaker 1: feel about cannabis is the same thing. Like I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of you know, these companies that have
Speaker 1: come in that uh, you know, obviously well funded, but
Speaker 1: don't really represent the culture. They fail, they're just not
Speaker 1: having the success that they should have, and it becomes
Speaker 1: a branding player. Really at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like if you think about like the
Speaker 1: Mexican cartels, like they're not the ones making the coke,
Speaker 1: making the drugs, but they became more valuable than Colombia
Speaker 1: and the guys in Peru because they were the ones
Speaker 1: that were, you know, ahead of it, in front of
Speaker 1: it in the market. That's what it becomes like branding places.
Speaker 1: You're in the market, you're cool in the market, You're
Speaker 1: you're you're relevant to the market. Now, that's what it is,
Speaker 1: and that's what we're trying to do. Kanye West could
Speaker 1: do a versus what oh and that's just the music.
Speaker 1: That's just like that's like words versus you see what
Speaker 1: he just said. He said, Oh yeah, it's Jack he said, Oh,
Speaker 1: I like did that. I don't think either one of
Speaker 1: them coming out of the house, probably not. They break
Speaker 1: the internet, they could do it from the house and
Speaker 1: I'm still break in and that should have breaked in
Speaker 1: and nah, you already Jersey Jersey Hell. I always asked
Speaker 1: what verses? I always say, like, who Chris Brown going against?
Speaker 1: That's what we're just talking about. What Tim So, what
Speaker 1: you think I think Chris Brown gets Usher? Everybody everybody
Speaker 1: sound bugging that. What would you say? I think Chris
Speaker 1: Brown gets that? Thinks we've said that. I think that
Speaker 1: Timberland is picking Usher. That's what they know. Chris Chris Brown.
Speaker 1: He picked Chris. Yeah, that was Chris. Yeah. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: can't say destroyed, no, not destroyed, no disrespect to us.
Speaker 1: I think he'll suck him up too, you know he
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson of our error. Chris Brown is if he didn't,
Speaker 1: I don't think about you would be the biggest start
Speaker 1: in the world. About that in the world. But they
Speaker 1: both had I think we got twenty How about all money?
Speaker 1: You said Kanye against jay I? That's crazy, man? What
Speaker 1: who else? Or Dre? Kanye and Dress That's what beats.
Speaker 1: It's two different producing artist Kanye, it's about no, no, Kane.
Speaker 1: Kanye gets too. He's an artist and he's a producing rap.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about they're gonna put out those things.
Speaker 1: It's about the twin against that. Listen against that and
Speaker 1: I saw it, bross check. That was a bad match.
Speaker 1: That's a bad match. I don't know what you don't
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sign at black Man. There was the match. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think you ain't drank would work too,
Speaker 1: because they don't. I think Missing Missing the first Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I tell you that. I don't like that, and I
Speaker 1: think you're right. I don't know what then you're talking
Speaker 1: about going on? Right, don't don't don't listen if you
Speaker 1: don't animated right, this is an animated like you know,
Speaker 1: like how bust this animated? They do? What the person
Speaker 1: that could mess with him is mystical they're doing. And
Speaker 1: I think Missical would go with who with the Boston Yeah,
Speaker 1: okay unless that ain't got enough ships. I like Missing,
Speaker 1: I like miss like Missing and busted Volt, but I
Speaker 1: think missing, but missing bust that about l L you
Speaker 1: think gets everybody's going crazy? It be caress one. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's what I keep seeing people. YEA want me to
Speaker 1: tell you the youth listen that ain't coming out of
Speaker 1: the house. I think so this other person, I don't
Speaker 1: think nobody gets Nobody gets him. Nobody gets drink nobody,
Speaker 1: no one, nobody, nobody, nobody. Let's go to the next subject. Yeah, no, nobody,
Speaker 1: nobody gets him. Son. Listen, Drake could do forty, forty
Speaker 1: R R and twenty. He could do forty. He could
Speaker 1: do battle Nobody getting call you in the same night
Speaker 1: I went to im. Sorry, I'm sorry out But you
Speaker 1: think like that, Like, um, what Kanye ever do something
Speaker 1: like that? I love the fact you taking a shot.
Speaker 1: We'ven at the gas. I love that. I love that
Speaker 1: I'm being ready to got damn there. I don't let
Speaker 1: you outshot me. Well, um, you think I didn't even
Speaker 1: do something like that, though, I don't think. So we'll
Speaker 1: put itself. He did do it with theft said album dropped.
Speaker 1: With album dropped, he did a different time though. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll see. I think any type of nigger here'll do
Speaker 1: like a gospel he want to go against like Kirk Franklin.
Speaker 1: He'll go outside the genre. I think that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He'd do kids even further out, like you'll go like
Speaker 1: Kirk colbein type ship. I mean, he's dead but you mean, like,
Speaker 1: I personally can't see him doing the verses at this
Speaker 1: point in his career. But you never know. You know,
Speaker 1: he said he wanted to Danny McBride to play him
Speaker 1: in the movie. That's what I knew. He's a legend,
Speaker 1: Danny McBride with the mullet, with the mullet. Kenny Powers
Speaker 1: would kill Kanye. It's a black Kanye, Kanye and jay Z.
Speaker 1: That would be crazy. That would be a good one.
Speaker 1: Who's the living It should be Kanye against Paul McCartney, right,
Speaker 1: some crazy like don't like that? Don't It won't work? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see that ship. I don't want
Speaker 1: to see. So what's the next step. What's the next
Speaker 1: move for y'all? We've got it in You've got a
Speaker 1: luxurious executive. So what's the next move are we? Are
Speaker 1: we trying to do tobacco like blunts because all people
Speaker 1: like blunts, although I'm gonna take something not tobacco, but
Speaker 1: not tobacco. Though they got ones that you like them?
Speaker 1: What the hip raps? The White Boys? No, I don't
Speaker 1: like those. Um, there is something that I like though.
Speaker 1: There's a company called Packwood do a great job of
Speaker 1: fake tobacco. It's not tobacco. It's a couple of companies.
Speaker 1: I don't want to keep naming them. But even Saucy,
Speaker 1: Saucy got a good blunt. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: Alex talk. I don't know if they got a great, great,
Speaker 1: great great blunt. So is that something that you guys
Speaker 1: are doing it? You guys are I'm gonna stick with
Speaker 1: papers from that, Um, I think that Yeah, we're eventually,
Speaker 1: like we want to say on the health and wellness
Speaker 1: side of it, you know what I'm saying, but also lifestyle,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So like that's so a
Speaker 1: lot of the products that we will create will be
Speaker 1: kind of aim in that direction. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Cans right, bro, Like we just just high end quality, bro.
Speaker 1: We just want every time you haven't experienced a Vidola
Speaker 1: Ford to be a good one. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That we have the product to let it kind of
Speaker 1: let it speak for itself. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That we think about adding like brothers like him to
Speaker 1: strategic partnerships and different things like that. It's really for
Speaker 1: us to try to figure out how do we put
Speaker 1: a strangle hole around the culture of candidates. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because a lot of the company needs
Speaker 1: that we're out here buying product from and stuff like
Speaker 1: they don't look like us, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's a crime. You know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 1: you really just think about what our community been through
Speaker 1: because of cannabis. You know what I'm saying, Any fibers
Speaker 1: in the all drug arrests and black communities, is cannabis related?
Speaker 1: Any initiative on on the company's side to help with that, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we work, so we work. So that's the thing. So
Speaker 1: I don't pick one thing, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I kind of go across all of it, right, So
Speaker 1: like within I give back. You know, we feed, We
Speaker 1: feed people, We do expongements. We help people with this
Speaker 1: company car and rebound where we helped them with re
Speaker 1: entry back into the community, so trying to help them
Speaker 1: find places to live, in jobs and different things like that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like my biggest thing is
Speaker 1: like social, social, and economic empowerment, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like we can, we could, we could, uh, we can
Speaker 1: march and do all that ship as long as we want.
Speaker 1: But until we can figure out how we can put
Speaker 1: money into the pockets of the people from the community,
Speaker 1: what's ever going to change, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's what we really focus on, is trying to
Speaker 1: hire more people of color and just really give them
Speaker 1: this opportunity so that they can participate. Because getting the
Speaker 1: job is one thing too, but we think ownership is
Speaker 1: another important thing, you know what I'm saying. So there's
Speaker 1: different social equity initiatives around the country. I think New
Speaker 1: York did an unbelievable job. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That they're smoking everywhere in New y'all. They're smoking everywhere
Speaker 1: and everywhere. But also when we talk about how they
Speaker 1: want to implement the program, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: they're providing funding and all these different things that we
Speaker 1: will need in order to be successful, because if we
Speaker 1: don't have no bread, there's no way to really participate.
Speaker 1: In a lot of times, the money that is available
Speaker 1: to us as predatory money, meaning first time we sunk up,
Speaker 1: we default, we can't pay back our loan, they take
Speaker 1: over our business opennies on the dollar. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So we're trying to change all of that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's what we're working on,
Speaker 1: and that's what John is now coming on with the
Speaker 1: Village side of the business is is really focused on
Speaker 1: you know, um acquiring licenses and excuse me, licenses and
Speaker 1: states where you know, the limited licenses you don't actually
Speaker 1: need your own dispensary, just get it into every other
Speaker 1: spent to me. Yeah, we can get right as a brand,
Speaker 1: we can do that, right, So we'd rather get a
Speaker 1: cultivation manufacturing and if we can get retail, that's icing
Speaker 1: on the cake. You know what I'm saying, we can
Speaker 1: really control fully you know or you know, our distribution.
Speaker 1: Like you said, it's limited licenses in every state. So
Speaker 1: it's a lot of effort to try to get those licenses. Effort.
Speaker 1: I mean, like seriously, Like in New York the first round,
Speaker 1: they gave out ten licenses, right, you know, each one
Speaker 1: of those people, none of them will be like they
Speaker 1: considered they checked the minority box because they take They
Speaker 1: gave three white women a license, but their husbands two
Speaker 1: of their husbands were billionaires, right, so that you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it's all kind of bullshit, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So we're trying to change that. We're
Speaker 1: speaking on that every day. It's in due time. But
Speaker 1: those licenses, just to give you an example, like those
Speaker 1: licenses are worth a hundred million dollars, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, and they cost them probably five million
Speaker 1: dollars to acquiry, you know what I'm saying. So when
Speaker 1: you think about like what it costs just to really
Speaker 1: be able to play in this game, it's like it's crazy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm It's like same prices or l
Speaker 1: A is is not as expensive, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But you know, the l A process, I've been a
Speaker 1: part of this process for the last two years, and
Speaker 1: it's really fucked up. I mean they really drag people out.
Speaker 1: You know. In order to you know, get a license,
Speaker 1: you had to be in control of the real estates,
Speaker 1: and I mean you had to have some form of
Speaker 1: a lease. You're paying money. I know people that like
Speaker 1: refinanced their homes or whatever just to be able to
Speaker 1: you know, pay those notes, and they still haven't been
Speaker 1: any licenses issue two years later, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So certain states is definitely. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 1: really kind of you know, twisted. But you know, like
Speaker 1: I said, I think New York is one that's a
Speaker 1: pretty good one working with you know, on a daily basis,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know around the country is just trying
Speaker 1: to figure out how we can impact and give people
Speaker 1: a real opportunity for ownership in the cannabis space. Do
Speaker 1: you watch the show? You don't watch it? You gotta
Speaker 1: watch this shot on TV that kind of changed the
Speaker 1: hit actor with the dreads and yeah, Jaco Lattimore and
Speaker 1: all that listen, um Leno White, that's the whole I
Speaker 1: do not watch it because that's my homegirl. I watched
Speaker 1: it because, like, by the way, I'm black and Latino.
Speaker 1: I have black and Latino family in Chicago. I have
Speaker 1: Black family and Latino family that live a course of
Speaker 1: street from each other, never seen each other for thirty
Speaker 1: years because they was warring. And when I came out there,
Speaker 1: it's the first time that I had my my black
Speaker 1: family and my span my Puerto Rican family meet together.
Speaker 1: And they're like what a living Courser street had it?
Speaker 1: But they're not a family, you understand. I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'm making sense but and that's my own. That's
Speaker 1: my only critique of Leno Whites. The shot is I said, yo,
Speaker 1: she said, I said, yo, this is my favorite show.
Speaker 1: I love it so much. I'm so sorry to be
Speaker 1: that guy that gives you a one critique. And she's like, well,
Speaker 1: what's the one critique? You know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I didn't see a Puerto Rican in there,
Speaker 1: Like there's no Chicago, there's no Humble Park, there's no
Speaker 1: there's no that. That's probably the only critique criticism. And
Speaker 1: Mexicans a lot of Mexican now, Mexican is now. But
Speaker 1: if you really, if you really really even searching Latino gangs,
Speaker 1: that origin is from Lan King's Chico. The biggest gangs
Speaker 1: folk folk nation all came to Black Pea Stones all
Speaker 1: that just like like Chicago. I feel like this, I
Speaker 1: l A was gangbanging first, but Chicago showed them how
Speaker 1: to separate the land. Like Yo, t Rogers, t Rogers
Speaker 1: south Side. Let me pick up to my people Gangster
Speaker 1: Chronicle podcast, who was doing a documentary on t Rogers
Speaker 1: right now. He's from Chicago. Originally he went to the
Speaker 1: Jungles and Broad Black Peace Stones, Black Pea Stoles, which
Speaker 1: is originally originally a Chicago gang brought up to l A.
Speaker 1: And now it's thousands of members all over the world.
Speaker 1: You're growing up and hearing these local street gangs and
Speaker 1: now you know, twenty years later you're like what, like,
Speaker 1: I know, you gotta be buddying, like, so, what's crazy?
Speaker 1: Because I'm from the low end um area called Lake Meadows,
Speaker 1: which was right off A thirty third in Cottage. About
Speaker 1: a mile away was the fort which was the black
Speaker 1: Stone that was the headquarters. Okay, that's um. The brothers
Speaker 1: for the four Brothers that Jeff Ford and Johnny for well,
Speaker 1: I know now I'm from looking listen, come on, keep going,
Speaker 1: come on. So I grew up like like right around
Speaker 1: all of that. I was never you know really the documentary.
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't want to look at like I
Speaker 1: was down with the Four Brothers, you know, the documentary.
Speaker 1: But I was, you know around in my name bhood,
Speaker 1: you know, new people on both sides, and that was
Speaker 1: like the Black Panthers. They was feeding the kids that
Speaker 1: that gang essentially that I watched as a youth is
Speaker 1: was a part of what was going on in l A.
Speaker 1: Because he brought them out here, I mean out there
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, you know it's it's crazy how much
Speaker 1: you know the street organizations had impact on as children
Speaker 1: and tell your funny ship my first time in Chicago
Speaker 1: as Nori. I've been in Chicago as Poppy and vicked
Speaker 1: Santiago with my family, but now I've come back as
Speaker 1: Nori and I wore my hat to the wrong side,
Speaker 1: to the wrong side, didn't and the person said, move
Speaker 1: your hat, move your hat, fix your hat. You're like,
Speaker 1: what what you mean? He told you that like trying you.
Speaker 1: You just remember me being like, what what the you mean?
Speaker 1: Moved my hat? And then they looked as soon as
Speaker 1: they heard by accidents, like yeah, he don't know no
Speaker 1: better my sock, i'ld have my socking up in a
Speaker 1: certain way. I'm poorter week and so I always put
Speaker 1: put money in my sock. I don't know why, and
Speaker 1: like they would check me, like you'll put your sock down,
Speaker 1: Like what the funk? Like is that something you just
Speaker 1: grew up a part of and you just knew that
Speaker 1: or that's something you had to learn. Chicago is like
Speaker 1: something you had to learn quick if you were in
Speaker 1: the city. You know, I came from the city. I'm
Speaker 1: a city kids, so you know, when I'm moving around
Speaker 1: trying to throw my little parties and stuff and trying
Speaker 1: to be cool with certain sides, you just have to
Speaker 1: know how to move and you know how to be
Speaker 1: respectful to know who's what you know and your new
Speaker 1: tro You could be newtro, I could be I was
Speaker 1: affiliated on a couple of sides. But I'm very neutral,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I was never. I was never.
Speaker 1: I was never a game bag. I was never you
Speaker 1: trying to make it and it's time was you're not
Speaker 1: trying to at this story young, you know, coming from
Speaker 1: a certain neighborhood. It's just like if you're from this
Speaker 1: neighborhood and it's a g D neighborhood and you're kind
Speaker 1: of g D. But I wasn't. Never, I wasn't. It's
Speaker 1: that like something that's funny because right now there's g
Speaker 1: D in New York, there's g D is everywhere, the
Speaker 1: biggest black guy in the world. But that was something
Speaker 1: that again was originally in chicag on the South side
Speaker 1: of Chicago. And you you ever thought you'd be seeing
Speaker 1: ship like that, is it bumped out to see it
Speaker 1: when you go with another place and see it because
Speaker 1: Larry Jr. And I grew up together, and when you
Speaker 1: hold on listen book because you know when he's saying, Larry, Larry,
Speaker 1: who Trump's gonna part of him? Bro? I don't know
Speaker 1: why you put that call in, man, I just I
Speaker 1: just I just know. But little Larry Yes. So it's
Speaker 1: just like just seeing you know, and he's just so
Speaker 1: chill and just like that a good brother and his
Speaker 1: family they're all great people, and you know, just like
Speaker 1: seeing how much impact him and his family had throughout
Speaker 1: my youth and just seeing how it just grew and exploded.
Speaker 1: Like I would never think that there would be g
Speaker 1: ds in Brooklyn, you know what I mean, but out
Speaker 1: of there everywhere, you know what I mean. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a crazy thing about going to Chicago. I always
Speaker 1: loved Compete Green. You known, my club was across the street,
Speaker 1: and remember remember the ticket spot called Sammy's. I used
Speaker 1: to go there all the time and the police is
Speaker 1: to come out like, yeah, what are you doing here?
Speaker 1: I just didn't know. I was like, I love the
Speaker 1: ticket spot Sammy's. But gone. Yeah, So now let me
Speaker 1: ask you something that we're gonna move on to something
Speaker 1: pretty pretty generic. But in my opinion, I'm outside looking
Speaker 1: and I'm not from Chicago. I have mean on both
Speaker 1: sides from Chicago, Black and Latino. Right, But in my opinion,
Speaker 1: when the O g S was around, when the competing
Speaker 1: greens was around, Chicago was an organized place. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: seems like to me they took they took out all
Speaker 1: the ogs and once they locked up and the body
Speaker 1: just fell right right at once they took out the
Speaker 1: O G S. I felt like, now it's wild wild West.
Speaker 1: It's like they do this thing. It's like, uh, they
Speaker 1: call it a b K E b K anybody killer,
Speaker 1: everybody killer. It's kids as bad and that's why so much,
Speaker 1: you know, and they're doing it everywhere, you know, it's
Speaker 1: not it's not just on the South Side. Now they
Speaker 1: got duck on Oak Street or Walton, which is like Rodeo.
Speaker 1: Imagine you know, guys pulling up on Rodeo and Chicago
Speaker 1: they got dunk there. That's what they got, you god bless. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But thought it this bad because like, like like I
Speaker 1: said earlier, I don't know if he was here, but um,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here, I'm a little late, and I go
Speaker 1: to the barbershop and I hear all this new music,
Speaker 1: but I never get to see the videos. Right. So
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there in the barbershop and every here's my dog,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about every video they're like this, and
Speaker 1: I'm like that. I remember they used to monitor us.
Speaker 1: I remember the most person who would get away with
Speaker 1: lyrics on Violator was Missy. That was it, Like Missy.
Speaker 1: If you literally listen to miss these lyrics, you're like, damn,
Speaker 1: he's saying some ship. She's like saying some games ship.
Speaker 1: But she said and you ain't saying you ain't realized
Speaker 1: that she's saying, I'm beating you up then up, Like
Speaker 1: but you ain't realized she's saying that. Like what she's saying.
Speaker 1: But so us, we had to remix our lyrics, someone
Speaker 1: to say for us to have a commercial record. Right now,
Speaker 1: they're letting these records go out and then the the
Speaker 1: videos play with like I forget. I think it's Polo
Speaker 1: G from Chicago, Chico. I think it's Polo G. He
Speaker 1: got a video where he just wakes up and someone's
Speaker 1: just shooting at him. He's just he's just standing there
Speaker 1: and they're just shooting. I'm like, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's that on the recordar TV? Like are
Speaker 1: we not on YouTube? They're like no, this is on
Speaker 1: whatever whatever it was. I'm sitting back. We couldn't do that?
Speaker 1: Is that? Like, I'm sorry to get deep. Is that
Speaker 1: like a form of black genocide? Because just this thing
Speaker 1: about it? Come on, but not, Let's think about it.
Speaker 1: If these are the dudes, that's our heroes, right, I
Speaker 1: mean when when when I was doing the music, I
Speaker 1: was heroes to people. If these are the new dudes,
Speaker 1: that's heroes and that's the image they're portraying. How the
Speaker 1: fuck are we not? You just just see the two
Speaker 1: fifteen year old boys shoot the security guarden in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: Heard about that rolled up. It was like a video game, bro.
Speaker 1: They had mask on, they got the security this broad
Speaker 1: day life And I'm sitting back like what the what
Speaker 1: the fun will give year old kids? Yeah? So like
Speaker 1: is this like a form of like let us kill ourselves?
Speaker 1: This is the new music? You followed us this way?
Speaker 1: And I think so that's what I'm on. That's what
Speaker 1: I think. You could see your point like why is
Speaker 1: it now acceptable? Yeah? You know what I'm saying because
Speaker 1: once again, I feel like our kids are so impressionable
Speaker 1: that when they see that, they're starting to normalize and
Speaker 1: think it's okay. It's like just away of life, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I think that to your point,
Speaker 1: I think that these kids, it is a game to
Speaker 1: them life for death. Like for us, we value life,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Special that God bless for
Speaker 1: its past three days. I've heard of these three artists,
Speaker 1: and then when I heard of these three all I
Speaker 1: heard him being arrested. Like that's funked up. It is
Speaker 1: bro like when you come this, this is this business
Speaker 1: and you get a record deal, We're supposed to be
Speaker 1: celebrating you. I'm not supposed to be finding out about
Speaker 1: you because you got arrested. Does that make sense? Like
Speaker 1: that ship is like kind of funked up. I don't
Speaker 1: hear that only having like you said, you've always said,
Speaker 1: it never happens, it's just our But it depends on
Speaker 1: the actions though too. No, but it's glorified because it's
Speaker 1: coming from Yeah. Because see his point, like when you
Speaker 1: think about like the hardest songs on the radio right
Speaker 1: now is literally talking about like somebody that got smoked
Speaker 1: stories that it's like a lot of y'all. Ship was
Speaker 1: like storytellers because I'm hating a little bit. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I can't get away with that what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: you were telling us, so youre talking about somebody, but
Speaker 1: you saying the name like they're saying the name said
Speaker 1: then I was there, We shot him there. It's just different,
Speaker 1: like this whole storytelling. Now they're telling the truth. They're
Speaker 1: telling truth. Totally different. And I didn't know what was
Speaker 1: And tell my man Sharif, who's here. We was arguing
Speaker 1: about like who had the most influenced Chicago niggas or
Speaker 1: New York niggas whatever over there, and he was saying,
Speaker 1: obviously in Chicago, and he started talking about drill, drill, drill,
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting on the call because he argued with
Speaker 1: me and my man Nay and I have no idea
Speaker 1: what he means by drill music. And then I looked
Speaker 1: looked it up and realized that you didn't know what
Speaker 1: drill that these things just talking about killing. That's real,
Speaker 1: that's scary. I'm last stek just to Chicago last week, man,
Speaker 1: my man, damn I co founding Viola in village and
Speaker 1: we're at the Noble Hotel. We want to know who
Speaker 1: to grab some food uptime. These three kids in front
Speaker 1: of us, and as we were walking on the elevator,
Speaker 1: I could tell they start looking back, like kept looking
Speaker 1: at me in the California said no, we were in Chicago.
Speaker 1: No tell, he's three kids. They're walking. They get on
Speaker 1: the elevator, so we get't elevate. Then it's in front
Speaker 1: of me, so he don't kind of see. He just
Speaker 1: walks on the elevator. So I'm looking. I could tell
Speaker 1: the way they're looking, They're like, what's up. So we
Speaker 1: get on the elevator right and one of the ones
Speaker 1: in the back, he kind of stepped to the back
Speaker 1: and he's still like looking at us, like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like damn, They're like, why do we
Speaker 1: get on the elevator with them? So what I said
Speaker 1: to them, I was just like, yo, where y'all from?
Speaker 1: And he was like shot rack. He said that ship
Speaker 1: soon by by the time I said from, he was
Speaker 1: like shot Rack And I was like, oh, he was
Speaker 1: like where you from. I was like, I'm from Jersey.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you good He's like, yeah, I'm good, and
Speaker 1: he kind of calmed down. Yeah, you could tell like
Speaker 1: he was looking at an enemy. Yeah, bro, he was
Speaker 1: looking at us like what's going on? You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying? And like the boys in Chicago, they ain't
Speaker 1: playing them kids out there, bro, because these dudes they
Speaker 1: were kids. Yeah, it's funked up, but the music is
Speaker 1: definitely selling that ship. You know what I'm saying. Crazy,
Speaker 1: you gotta new artist. You got one of those crazy guys,
Speaker 1: a new Drill. Crazy guys. They're all crazy to me.
Speaker 1: I love him. I love him what I used to
Speaker 1: be used to be like, I'm looking like, no, not
Speaker 1: right now, right now, a little dirt. None of them does.
Speaker 1: I fun with them. I love all them, the young
Speaker 1: kids out of Chicago, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 1: got a lot of relationship with their management teams and
Speaker 1: all that, but I'm just focused on y and right
Speaker 1: he got that. How do we look at that? How
Speaker 1: did you look at that? Scene started? Let me just
Speaker 1: tell you something while I'm sorry, okay going there, Yeah sorry.
Speaker 1: What never mean by that is when they jumped on
Speaker 1: Chief Keith record, right Drill. That's where Drill went pop
Speaker 1: see drill was underground. Let me tell you something. I
Speaker 1: walked to my son's room one day and I saw
Speaker 1: him watching Chief Keith video. And I first did not like.
Speaker 1: I was just like, all right, cool because it looked
Speaker 1: like they was a colder sat It looked like they
Speaker 1: was like and I did not see that they was
Speaker 1: pulling off guns like I just saw it. They was
Speaker 1: just over there in the house, and I was just like, okay.
Speaker 1: I was like, I look, I said, that's what you're
Speaker 1: listening to, and then I left out. Then I realized
Speaker 1: these things got choppers, Like what the funk? I just
Speaker 1: allowed my son to just look at And then I
Speaker 1: met Chief Keep. Obviously it was great. But yes I
Speaker 1: met Chief Keep in front of the Mansion Hotels, looking
Speaker 1: awesome with your chief. Um. But Kanye made drill music
Speaker 1: go to that level when he jumped on that's that ship.
Speaker 1: I don't like the first record. It was what did
Speaker 1: you feel about that? Did you know what he was doing? Um?
Speaker 1: At the time, I wasn't working with you, but I
Speaker 1: was working with a kid named King Louis who he
Speaker 1: shouted out on that record. Um, King Louis, that's that's
Speaker 1: not um Okay, it was. It was like they were
Speaker 1: like the two kind of big drill guys at the time.
Speaker 1: It was Chief Keith and King Louis. And King Louis
Speaker 1: actually got on the Jesus album We Ain't and Esus Jesus.
Speaker 1: That's not my favorite, great album opinion, that great album,
Speaker 1: but the album I would say, you know, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a visionary and he saw, you know, what Keith was doing,
Speaker 1: and I think that's why he got on the record.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, that's just what I believe. He saw
Speaker 1: what was going going on with him and they had
Speaker 1: a relationship, and uh, it really helps it, like you say,
Speaker 1: but launched the whole movement because keep it still. You know,
Speaker 1: he's still a king of drill. He's still a king
Speaker 1: of drill. Can you define drill music? So cargo sub
Speaker 1: genre street like that from Chicago? Yeah, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 1: It's um, it's really at its core south side street
Speaker 1: hip hop of Chicago. That's what it really is. There's
Speaker 1: the drill artists all over the city and all over
Speaker 1: the country the world, over the world, but really it
Speaker 1: started out south and it's like some south side street ship.
Speaker 1: It's definitely hip. It's definitely hip hop because at First
Speaker 1: Street Ron when you do the Origin of Drill, we
Speaker 1: do the Origin of Drill, and you see these different
Speaker 1: clicks because they were all just like little kids. They
Speaker 1: were like basically just shotting out these games, all these
Speaker 1: different sets that we didn't know. But we were just
Speaker 1: listening to this ship like this is sound ill and
Speaker 1: then it kept going they kept going right, and um,
Speaker 1: now Chicago is the forefront of motherfucking right music. It's right,
Speaker 1: what what Kanye? And without them? Like, wow, is that
Speaker 1: something you brought of? Absolutely? Man, I've been working in
Speaker 1: the Chicago hip hop ship since eighty nine, So for me,
Speaker 1: it's just a you know, a dream come true. God
Speaker 1: bless that hopefully, Boli glacamole. Man, this is a good one.
Speaker 1: Good motherfucker. Sure doesn't necessarily gang music, right or is it?
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's up to your point
Speaker 1: of view. Yeah, because that's like saying gangster rap. Don't
Speaker 1: mean you a gangsters against rap falls under gangster. Yes,
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to music story? Yeah, I think tell
Speaker 1: the story, but stead this morning, the story doesn't end
Speaker 1: well for most cases, it's really game or is it
Speaker 1: just you start ton but it's street street. I think
Speaker 1: it's streets necessarily gang. I don't want to use that
Speaker 1: word because that, to me, that has like a street
Speaker 1: organization implication. I'm not saying that, it's just street stories.
Speaker 1: To me, it's like if you have be for somebody
Speaker 1: and then you put it on the record, and you're
Speaker 1: just putting that on the record. But that's I understand
Speaker 1: what my perception of it is. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: know for someone that's from there, even if you should
Speaker 1: be removed from there. No just and n w A
Speaker 1: telling the dollars because it said the police. But these
Speaker 1: kids to block and they're really shooting at each other,
Speaker 1: and we are we are removed from it because I
Speaker 1: guarantee on the street let they're gonna say, you guys
Speaker 1: don't know what the funk you're talking about. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Chicago dude, don't get a funk about the Chicago dues.
Speaker 1: They don't get about Chicago dudes neither. They just it's
Speaker 1: just it's not this Chicago thing. No, drill has now
Speaker 1: been worldwide, you know, drill everywhere he was he was
Speaker 1: speaking to the origins of drill. Like when he said
Speaker 1: when he said, he's correct it's about that, and it's
Speaker 1: just like hip hop, like alright, cool hip hop. The
Speaker 1: Bronx had it for so long, like this is just
Speaker 1: be clear. The Bronx had it. Yes, they invented it.
Speaker 1: We gotta give it to them. But eventually it went
Speaker 1: to Queens, Eventually it went to Brooklyn, eventually it went
Speaker 1: to whatever. And they couldn't just clean hip hop no more.
Speaker 1: Hip hop is everything the same thing with Drill. Drill
Speaker 1: started in the South Side of Chicago, but does not
Speaker 1: mean that a person in Liberty City, a person in
Speaker 1: Old Child, the person for the projects, a person then
Speaker 1: whatever can't can't can yeah, Bush can't can't do the
Speaker 1: same thing. But it goes back to my original question
Speaker 1: to you, John Um, and maybe you can answer it.
Speaker 1: Does someone like Kanye look back and think of Drill
Speaker 1: and say, like, what does he think of it? Ultimately?
Speaker 1: I can't answer that. I know that he respects or
Speaker 1: I would think that he respects the impact, But I
Speaker 1: can't answer, can you respect artists but understand the negative
Speaker 1: implications that this music has overall in the bigger scheme
Speaker 1: of it impact? I can can you, Yeah, you go
Speaker 1: watch porn without being a freak? Yes, you don't necessarily
Speaker 1: mean you know he is somebody boys some point we
Speaker 1: bust one out. Don't mean you're freaking just mean you
Speaker 1: had to let one go. Baby, have an interest, interest happens.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite part of the music business? They creating,
Speaker 1: creating the music and the actual content. Yeah, studio, studio stuff, studio,
Speaker 1: and then I think second behind that is uh working
Speaker 1: on rollout, but definitely the inception, like being there when
Speaker 1: they beat, the first time to beat is played in
Speaker 1: that first flow and all that. I just like, that's
Speaker 1: just always been my ship. Studio, right ship. So what's
Speaker 1: your favorite part or Kanye? Is it to do some
Speaker 1: part or is it the artist part. I'll do a shot.
Speaker 1: This work, it's my ground. Brendan real like someone like that.
Speaker 1: I don't want he hasn't drinking, want no no, this
Speaker 1: like that? That ye that, I'll take a show me
Speaker 1: take a shot. I can't let you take a shot.
Speaker 1: I take a riot. Yeah, I take a shot, but
Speaker 1: you know what, it's very interested. Let me let me
Speaker 1: take a let me take a shot, take a shot.
Speaker 1: Let's take a shot with you and for you. But
Speaker 1: salu okay, I'm gonna take a little bit take a
Speaker 1: little bit, just a little brow. I had to kill
Speaker 1: that cool. You took it down, but you took you
Speaker 1: took a shower. I can't really drink, you know. You
Speaker 1: know what's interesting to hear you say that? What's that?
Speaker 1: Is what I asked you. Is Kanye the artist or
Speaker 1: Kanye A the producer? But the producer is the artist
Speaker 1: and the artist is the producer. I mean, it's all artistry.
Speaker 1: It is all artistry. But I mean you mean the
Speaker 1: M maybe the artist artist. I mean when you say
Speaker 1: artists to me, the producer is the artist. Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: I should have said MC. Okay, all right, so MC,
Speaker 1: because it's like it's a totally different like when I
Speaker 1: look at for all as an m C and I
Speaker 1: look at him as an artist, is totally different. Um,
Speaker 1: I think I'm more of a fan of Kanye as
Speaker 1: an artist, but I can't say I'm less as a
Speaker 1: fan of Kanye as a producer. Like like, so it's
Speaker 1: it's a very hard because you first learned of Kanye
Speaker 1: as a producer and probably became a fan of his
Speaker 1: making beats on these different people projects, specifically jay Z
Speaker 1: and the whole fan Rock and all that. So like
Speaker 1: he was getting hot first as a producer. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? You know, how did you first come
Speaker 1: to you? Though? As I met him thirty years ago
Speaker 1: and ninety one through my boy Lucien. He was in
Speaker 1: a rap group called State of Mind. That was his
Speaker 1: first round group Kanye. It was Lucien, Kanye and another
Speaker 1: guy named Jean. You're already working with the time I
Speaker 1: started working with no I D and uh ninety uh
Speaker 1: six seven, You met in Kanye first? Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: no but I met no I D around the same
Speaker 1: time though, so I've known them both probably about thirty years.
Speaker 1: But um I started working with Kanye soon as soon
Speaker 1: as I met him, we started working together, Like as
Speaker 1: soon as he told me, he said, You've got to
Speaker 1: work with me, dude. You know he was always so
Speaker 1: ill like he wasn't never whacked. You never met with
Speaker 1: Mothercker who was never whacked. He just was never wacking.
Speaker 1: Beach was always crazy and raps was always hard like,
Speaker 1: he just was always just that NIGGD makes those for Kanye.
Speaker 1: M are we gonna make great bigs and James cous
Speaker 1: In here because because the bigs got to have an
Speaker 1: opinion of that too. Wanted to work. Come on, goddamnit,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, because James go along just two minutes.
Speaker 1: Come on now. But that's ill. I didn't um. You know,
Speaker 1: it's only certain people who can live in those two
Speaker 1: different lives, right, A great producer and a great artist
Speaker 1: right off top, I think of Dr Dre right, I
Speaker 1: think of Pump Daddy for sure. I think of Kanye.
Speaker 1: I think of for real. I think you just don't
Speaker 1: forget about cut cute tip, qute tip? Have it? Have it?
Speaker 1: Have it? For sure? I have it. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's pretty hard. That's pretty hard to maintain both. But
Speaker 1: even if you look at that list, you gotta kind
Speaker 1: of say, Kanye, is that really the right trip? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: well no, yeah, I guess what was? What was Chicago Rivals?
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something, Let me ask you something? Right, So, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, you can't do too. But it's this record
Speaker 1: that comes out right, and you know, hopefully you can
Speaker 1: help us with this. Big brother, my big brother, you
Speaker 1: used to be dame man. Big is brother, who is
Speaker 1: hip hop? Brother? Who is No? I did friend? No,
Speaker 1: I did man? Not a story again? So this record
Speaker 1: comes out. How do you feel hearing this record prior
Speaker 1: to it coming out, because this could be taking the
Speaker 1: wrong way this right, What do you think? What do
Speaker 1: you what is your first thought? I think he was
Speaker 1: just being honest, as he always was. If you just
Speaker 1: listened to him, he tells you what's on his mind.
Speaker 1: He never would hold back, and I think that's what
Speaker 1: really was so warm and um just welcoming to like
Speaker 1: the fans, and that's why people just love him so
Speaker 1: much because he never holds back. Still to this day,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean if you think know that
Speaker 1: that really happened. You know, we cool, but yo, back
Speaker 1: then we we was getting fronted on straight up. But
Speaker 1: I think you need to take the other shot. So
Speaker 1: really that was really like that, like yeah, but shout
Speaker 1: out to Biggs Man to us on our first private jet,
Speaker 1: man Big to me on my favorite. That was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun, a lot of fun. Oh man, this
Speaker 1: is history right here, man, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And you know the whole bottle bro Oh yeah you
Speaker 1: another one? I mean, you know another one. This is
Speaker 1: the finest of the finest, the oup so of I
Speaker 1: don't even know. This is black fantastic, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You know what I mean. Man, I was
Speaker 1: on be was on the group chat. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Biggs was there. What I want to you
Speaker 1: know somebody I had to tell him I drink more
Speaker 1: ace than you. Yeah, you don't. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You gotta relax, you gotta relax. But black this is
Speaker 1: what I love like you know what I mean? You know, uh,
Speaker 1: I think a uh the greatest product in the world.
Speaker 1: But then the fact that I know the brother who
Speaker 1: owns it, that secondary. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: know in the packaging, the package, look at it just
Speaker 1: looks sexy. Look that's it just looks sexy. Looks like
Speaker 1: you got the spinger Pops. Don't like that at Look
Speaker 1: at the rock. It's a don't forget brother here White,
Speaker 1: don't forget to get forgetting called me crazy. Don't got this?
Speaker 1: This all blank someone ship. He's starting lash. It's very expensive.
Speaker 1: So what's the end all be all viola? What are
Speaker 1: we trying to have viola in Mars seven? Yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: we want to be the biggest. We want to be
Speaker 1: when the coca is black. Cannabis are a lot little
Speaker 1: bit y'all just been letting this ship go down like
Speaker 1: I see you as he never snor you gotta sleep
Speaker 1: out there, Like right now we're in um. I think
Speaker 1: we're in six states. Six the states you're in. So
Speaker 1: when California, Oregon, Washington, Oregon, we get hi, all night rest, Colorado, Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: in Michigan. We're about to launch in Canada next month.
Speaker 1: And then we got Maryland in Missouri, we're about to
Speaker 1: launch in. We're getting we're working on New York. So
Speaker 1: New York is about to open up the new application process,
Speaker 1: so we're trying to get in Florida. Finish, I got
Speaker 1: that's your question, guys, whatever, But Florida. What's going on
Speaker 1: with Florida? Everybody got me, Like, I mean, Florida's kind
Speaker 1: of set up. They monopolize Florida, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They only gave certain people licenses and they running it up,
Speaker 1: especially like companies like Truly. But I think that they truly,
Speaker 1: You're out of line, man, that's what you You know,
Speaker 1: you you need your medicine. Yeah, I need it, I
Speaker 1: get it, you know what I'm saying. But we need
Speaker 1: Viola to get a license in or get a license
Speaker 1: in that you know what I'm saying that to be dope.
Speaker 1: Can we all get campaign. We're gonna work. We love Florida,
Speaker 1: We're gonna work on. We got to come up with
Speaker 1: a game plan how we can all benefited the smoke centuries. Bro,
Speaker 1: we got smoke Champs dispensaries. We've got smoke Champs, the brand,
Speaker 1: whatever the fun you want to have. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. With the licenses, the key that is the
Speaker 1: only can we partner? Yeah? Bro, like these licenses out
Speaker 1: hear me. Think about every license you get, you go
Speaker 1: open up thirty plus dispensaries with one license. But like
Speaker 1: most states, they don't have that. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They allowed to monopolize this state. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Mostly we get a cultivation that's just a cultivation license.
Speaker 1: Ain't got nothing to do with stores. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying now, yesterday, yesterday, if it's going to happen,
Speaker 1: But yesterday he said, I said, I think you're yesterday
Speaker 1: that vegan whatever you got that tag of balls. Ball,
Speaker 1: we're trying to talk ball. Let's change your life right now.
Speaker 1: Let's change here. He wasn't supposed to drink the whole bottle.
Speaker 1: Now he drink. That's why that side. That's much. That's
Speaker 1: that's too much. That's give me happy happen. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's it. I'm gonna take some much. You ain't taking that.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying wait, hold on, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold again. You want to say something. I want to
Speaker 1: say something. Listen. Our show was about giving flowers. While
Speaker 1: you hear I know you hear that statement so much nowadays.
Speaker 1: I we didn't invent it. We made it famous. We
Speaker 1: that's what we did for the last six years of
Speaker 1: our life. We just wanted to have a show that
Speaker 1: we get big up people. There's so many people that
Speaker 1: when you got ten years in this game, they want
Speaker 1: to give you away and say, funck, you put you
Speaker 1: to the side. We invented giving people their flowers to
Speaker 1: say something also fun time. There's no high school a
Speaker 1: high school athlete going straight to the NBA. That's not
Speaker 1: a lot of other people. Not to make people to
Speaker 1: do that. And you had a sixteen year glorious career
Speaker 1: and you manifested out of thirty four years old into
Speaker 1: a cannabis entrepreneurship company. Got that hate that yes ship.
Speaker 1: Now to get the poet bro yeah, it's the right there. Yes,
Speaker 1: now now now I move this away. You don't want that?
Speaker 1: Who has you gonna take some of that you get
Speaker 1: now you're gonna store some more. Bro, Come on, really
Speaker 1: that starts you come out, you get make sure you
Speaker 1: get the engineer because when the fans asked us, why
Speaker 1: the sound sound? So I just want everyone to focusing
Speaker 1: on that drinking yea it out. The attack of bone
Speaker 1: is different. I'm sorry, you're definitely not coming. We're gonna
Speaker 1: leave you the funk where you at this earlier? What's
Speaker 1: his favorite part of the game. I would like to
Speaker 1: ask you what was your favorite part of playing the
Speaker 1: game when we were playing it basketball? Yeah, my favorite
Speaker 1: part of the game was the It was the arena,
Speaker 1: just the things. What's your favorite arena? Favorite areas? It
Speaker 1: is the Massive Masson Square Guard. What's the second favure?
Speaker 1: My second favorite the United Center Chicago, Chicago, and your
Speaker 1: third American Airlines Arena Miami. Right, we was what are points?
Speaker 1: And Baron said he smoked his whole career and you
Speaker 1: ain't burned out one time with the y'all smoked the
Speaker 1: one time, Bro, it was it was only time I
Speaker 1: smoke at hal was in the Big Three black Man,
Speaker 1: but no Baron Davis. She smoked with him. One time
Speaker 1: I smoked with them was in Phoenix, Arizona. We had
Speaker 1: just was eliminated from the playoffs, and I remember how
Speaker 1: paranoid I was after smoking with him. You gotta eliminate this.
Speaker 1: You had an excuse still get you got excuse you.
Speaker 1: It's crazy though, we got I got to listen. What's
Speaker 1: pretty crazy about that? Though? I got drug texted the
Speaker 1: next day. But that's when I found out that, you know,
Speaker 1: part of the process never Yeah, you get one dollar
Speaker 1: a year in the program. So like they check you
Speaker 1: four times, they techt you four times, but one of
Speaker 1: them can be diluted. David Stern big shout out to
Speaker 1: Day You're gonna let it go. We're about We're about
Speaker 1: to launch this, uh this product a topical cream call
Speaker 1: replay with the players next just like CBD whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So for like you know, after the game, when you
Speaker 1: know you stiff and you know me anti inflammatories and
Speaker 1: ship like that. Because I took anti inflammatories of seven
Speaker 1: straight years. I took three pills a day, two in
Speaker 1: the morning, one at night, just so that I could
Speaker 1: feel good to go out and keep you know, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I know how important it
Speaker 1: is for athletes to recover. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because we always hurt, Bro, Like there's no such thing.
Speaker 1: It's like I think, once you would come a professional athlete,
Speaker 1: you're never got to get hurt. It's just always something constant, recovery,
Speaker 1: constantly recovery. Something's hurting Bro Constantly. I ask a question,
Speaker 1: please and no, no, go ahead please. I love how
Speaker 1: he's shaking. Ask you a question. In the Big Three
Speaker 1: and the Big Three. Ch Oakley gave you a good one.
Speaker 1: Charles gave you a hit in the nose. You fell,
Speaker 1: and he tried to apologize. I think you said, forget
Speaker 1: about it. It is what it is, part of the game.
Speaker 1: But how was that dealing with Charles Oakley? All I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, this is all I'm gonna say. When I
Speaker 1: was a rookie, there was a lockout, so Michael Jordan
Speaker 1: was retiring, but he was still trying to go through
Speaker 1: the process of helping us get through that process. And
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna see who it was. But all I
Speaker 1: know is we're staying in the lobby at the Hill
Speaker 1: and hotel in in uh in like Union Square or
Speaker 1: whatever that's hotel we right, And all I hear is
Speaker 1: like chill Oak, chill OK. And I watched oak Charles
Speaker 1: Oakley smack one of like the NBA like tough guys.
Speaker 1: That was did he say you don't know here? He
Speaker 1: smack Jordan? He smacked Jordan. No, he smacked somebody. That's
Speaker 1: crazy told that name. What who you said, Bobbley? That's
Speaker 1: crazy that he would say that name. But he smacked
Speaker 1: this guy. It seems like I wanted but he smacked
Speaker 1: this guy. And I'm I'm eighteen years old and I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there like what the fun bubble got smacked. Let's
Speaker 1: just start out. I'm not saying, I'm just see how
Speaker 1: is Let's say that name. Just spread the room. We'll deal,
Speaker 1: We'll deal with it. Smacked his face on his name,
Speaker 1: start with in the Hilton Hotel, Charles smack with my
Speaker 1: own eyes, it was two Charles, two Charles. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: so just think about that. It's being like a eighteen
Speaker 1: year old. It's a possibility that Charles Oldie smacked Charles Walking.
Speaker 1: Let's just throw it out there. It's a good chance
Speaker 1: it's a good chance. So when he hit me, you
Speaker 1: know it's just and what mean and and two dollars domestic?
Speaker 1: Abut in two dollars seventeen? Are you hit me in
Speaker 1: two dollar seventeen? Big three? In our season? Shot the
Speaker 1: ice cuel, he gave you a they gave you don't
Speaker 1: shot to the championship. So let's safe to say when
Speaker 1: Charles Oakley got kicked up the garden, was you mad
Speaker 1: or he was like, funk that? You get that? Now?
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I know we're OK. We'll go with
Speaker 1: some ship. Kicking up was the smartest thing they could
Speaker 1: have done. All right, I don't know. All right, let's
Speaker 1: weed clarification. So when you saw the footage, you felt
Speaker 1: like Oaks should have been kicked out and got kicked out.
Speaker 1: But because he said the next legend, no, I mean,
Speaker 1: they should have never done. They say out to right,
Speaker 1: get in. It's a difference. They go to another. No,
Speaker 1: I think I think we're oak Man, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: Oak's already in bent. They kicked him out. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: could tell he was bent. I said, I see that ship.
Speaker 1: Get a little drunk. People little drunk, but even drink
Speaker 1: chaps and stuff. Nah, he like if he work, he
Speaker 1: come on like Dad's okay, but he still shouldn't got
Speaker 1: kicked out, he said, he got kicked out. Man, he
Speaker 1: a leged like you said. But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I think they just, uh, they didn't let Patrick
Speaker 1: you in in the other day. Yeah, you don't let
Speaker 1: Patrick about that? Right about that because I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to get an NBA contract ever. But I remember the
Speaker 1: kid about having tickets and we have the worst owner
Speaker 1: in the next history wrong film, No, not what the
Speaker 1: James yeah, Ernie one before all right, kind of he
Speaker 1: was a g confused to be way too much James
Speaker 1: Dolan with his name and I don't want to be
Speaker 1: for him. Was I don't want to be bad for
Speaker 1: the Garden, but I don't need to give a funk
Speaker 1: like it's okay, I'm watching from the Irish paup around
Speaker 1: the corner. It's all right, um, but he's kind of
Speaker 1: like not really letting us live. He did this year, right,
Speaker 1: we got a couple of players, got the rolls back.
Speaker 1: Phenomenal Chicago. I'm sorry took it all right? What's what's
Speaker 1: the m v P? That was r m v P
Speaker 1: Julie Judith Randow and then um, what's the number one pick?
Speaker 1: Jarrett R J. Barrett. We were looking good for a second.
Speaker 1: We did right John to Atlanta. They take Philadelphia. Sorry,
Speaker 1: that's a little drake man ran a little drake t
Speaker 1: little drake like little Drake was just throwing up number one.
Speaker 1: He's all over the place, a little man. That's crazy,
Speaker 1: that little light skinned little things. It Bro, but I
Speaker 1: a lie. The fact that the Knicks even got there.
Speaker 1: It felt good as a New Yorker. But the guard
Speaker 1: was rocking. To Bro, I don't have to disrespectful fans
Speaker 1: when they threw through that. Yeah, that's but that's not
Speaker 1: I like that assholes. But listen, I'm gonna say I
Speaker 1: wanna say real quick, real quick. For me and my
Speaker 1: experience in the league, the loudest arena for me, hands down,
Speaker 1: has still been the Garden. So I was in the
Speaker 1: arena when Larry Johnson hit the four point play against
Speaker 1: the Basis, and Bro, I thought it was an earthquake,
Speaker 1: Like the motherfucking arena was like shaking, like it was
Speaker 1: like moving, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: for sure, like you playing older, you played the gold State.
Speaker 1: He was, yeah, he was. They was wild to but
Speaker 1: but they was like, see what I love about the
Speaker 1: Oakland fans, especially back then it wasn't corporate like now
Speaker 1: it was corporate. Now it was all the tech money
Speaker 1: and all that ship they got to. But before it
Speaker 1: was like the Nigga fans, like you see the white boy.
Speaker 1: Um he said, sons in four. Yeah, he was like
Speaker 1: sons in the four and he was right, And they
Speaker 1: swim from yesterday, get out of shout out of ja crowding.
Speaker 1: So dude, beat down. Dude gotta beat down. And they
Speaker 1: lost in four. They lost in fourth, so bad bro
Speaker 1: might take it this shit, he's got a good and
Speaker 1: what's the nut's looking like two and two? But but
Speaker 1: James Hardens her cap got hurt the other night with
Speaker 1: with an ankle. He's not playing game five honest, and
Speaker 1: Brook Lopez and Drew Holiday they might squeeze it through. Man,
Speaker 1: they might take it. Katie got to get fifty tomorrow,
Speaker 1: ain't um, what's what's up a man name? Um that
Speaker 1: came from the Clippers. No, he's not doing it, but
Speaker 1: the fucking man. But he's not number two. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna be able to do it. No, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: the man, but he's not gonna do it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think he's getting so yeah, yeah, Milwaukee got an
Speaker 1: opportunity to take over, and then it's gonna be Phenis
Speaker 1: Milwaukee and Jay Crowding CP three and fucking Devin Booker.
Speaker 1: They're gonna win it CP three to the Championships. That
Speaker 1: would be wh're CP three on de say Devin Booker,
Speaker 1: stop saying the other dude, you keep saying Jay crowd
Speaker 1: CP three and Devio Jay crowded first, No you got
Speaker 1: I'm how bad back? The reason I said j crowd
Speaker 1: because he played with Miami he last year and then
Speaker 1: they lost crying. Yeah, you know what you're going on? No,
Speaker 1: Jawder the truth, but he said cheap David Jake Crowder,
Speaker 1: You're right. I love this talk. I might go Cameron
Speaker 1: Pain before I go him too, but just we're talking
Speaker 1: about it after this show. We could talk about we're
Speaker 1: gonna bring in other people or not. Yeah, already, come on,
Speaker 1: come on, come on baby too bad Yo, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take a definite opportunity while we're in transition at Houlton.
Speaker 1: So what was it? What was the difference between Indiana
Speaker 1: Pacers and Golden State. You're coming in as rookie and
Speaker 1: then you transition into a better was a way better
Speaker 1: playing Golden State, but you had a better Uh. But
Speaker 1: we had the same We had the same kind of
Speaker 1: family environment. That's why I said the most suscept I
Speaker 1: had was on teams or like we was like brothers.
Speaker 1: You know that we're going to Indiana. Didn't go to
Speaker 1: save It's only two teams where I had that kind
Speaker 1: of vibe. That's hard because Matt Barnes and uh Stacks,
Speaker 1: they're like relatable. They deal with the real real we
Speaker 1: we talk as humans. Uh, Derrick McKee, Antonio Davis Dale Davis,
Speaker 1: Chris Mullen. Those are legends to me. So as you're
Speaker 1: going in as a young man from the high school,
Speaker 1: how you see them as veterans and then you deal
Speaker 1: with people that you relate to a different ambience. But
Speaker 1: for me, I had it. I mean I had to
Speaker 1: be with them niggas all the time though, so I
Speaker 1: ain't had no choice but to kind of learn and
Speaker 1: I learned man ship basketball like how to have a
Speaker 1: girlfriend and yeah, like they told me all that ship,
Speaker 1: I got to move you know what I'm saying. No,
Speaker 1: I respect that a percent. Being that you're an athlete
Speaker 1: and you're from New Jersey. I always want to relate
Speaker 1: that because this is definitely Miami, New York and drink champs.
Speaker 1: I'm the only one New Jersey. So every time I
Speaker 1: get Nordy by Nature Lords and Underground or anybody and yourself,
Speaker 1: I gotta say, relate that struggle. We don't get the love.
Speaker 1: But but you're being an NBA athlete and being an
Speaker 1: NBA veteran at a young age. You came in high school, professional,
Speaker 1: now your entrepreneur, and you're still young forty. That's young.
Speaker 1: So congrats to you and celebrity celebration to you on
Speaker 1: your efforts and endeavors. But how can you get back
Speaker 1: to let's say, New Jersey to the people, I don't
Speaker 1: got another How can you get back and say I'm
Speaker 1: doing it, I'm showing it, I'm proving it, and there's
Speaker 1: a future. So mostly what we've been doing is like
Speaker 1: obviously all the states where we you know, where we
Speaker 1: have licenses in or whatever. Like I said, we do
Speaker 1: mad ship in the community from like you know, rehabbing homes, rebuilt, refurbishing, parks.
Speaker 1: Like I said, always feeding people. There's just all about
Speaker 1: the community, you know what I'm saying, Because it's just
Speaker 1: under all Harrison Wellness, it's it's under Violar Cares. So
Speaker 1: we have a company called Viola Cares. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: Viola Kids. So that's why I said. We had the
Speaker 1: partnership with Ruined Rebound and we helped with the re entry,
Speaker 1: with the expungements, and then like I said, we just
Speaker 1: worked with just different people that we know within the
Speaker 1: community that can help us with the with the get
Speaker 1: back in regards to feeding, like turkey drives, clothing drive,
Speaker 1: toy drives, all of that. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's community accepting you for what you're bringing out or
Speaker 1: for what you was as an NBA player. No, I
Speaker 1: think now now like we're winning. Now I'm saying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's different. You know what I'm saying. It's cannabis. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Something that people don't expect mostly
Speaker 1: cannabi is any interaction with cannabies. So we led to
Speaker 1: something very negative, you know what I'm saying. So now
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, ship, like this is helping us,
Speaker 1: this is rebuilding us, is giving up, putting us in
Speaker 1: a better position to win. You know, I'm saying I
Speaker 1: want to congratulate you and say I followed that, and
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you gotta chair get with you, okay,
Speaker 1: coming in J threw you know it was it was
Speaker 1: a salute forgot to be here. Thank you for everything.
Speaker 1: Appreciate your drinking Sports Edition Space. No, that's called baby
Speaker 1: please please, that's that's that's my drink of choice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I ain't a lot of the way you open it.
Speaker 1: Let me open it, like I was very nervous. How
Speaker 1: you opened it. You just left the ship right there.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, because you know that's your bold Ye. Listen,
Speaker 1: we have bad experience bad experiences. I got you, I
Speaker 1: got you. You can't drink tis love chap all right now,
Speaker 1: we got some management powerhouse right here, right now. So
Speaker 1: I want to know between both y'all, well nor we
Speaker 1: already kind of alluded to you about who is the
Speaker 1: most don't say difficult, but what's the most difficult part
Speaker 1: about managing and artists? I don't say specific artists, trying
Speaker 1: to help them prioritize the difference between what they think
Speaker 1: is important sometimes and what's a real true priority in business,
Speaker 1: Like I feel for you dealing with like Kanye, for example,
Speaker 1: when you from the outside looking and you know, when
Speaker 1: we're looking at Kanye, it seems like he's unmanageable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he says that. I mean, I don't even look at
Speaker 1: myself as his manager. I'm just on his team, just
Speaker 1: helping him run his business, you know. And then my
Speaker 1: my specific focus is uh is on music. But um yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, if anybody is I'm managed,
Speaker 1: it's him because he just has so many different interests
Speaker 1: and he moves in so many different ways, you know,
Speaker 1: because I've I've managed artists myself, and and it feels
Speaker 1: like and I also feel like I'm a part of
Speaker 1: the creative process. I don't know if y'all feel. I'm
Speaker 1: assuming I think y'all feel that you're part of the
Speaker 1: creative process. And it just feels like it just takes
Speaker 1: so much energy to manage another human being. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: in my personal opinion, it's just me speaking. I don't
Speaker 1: find any part of management difficult because I don't take
Speaker 1: it as managing a person. I'll take it as managing
Speaker 1: an artist. I take it as managing the things around them.
Speaker 1: To help them excel and succeed and make their dreams
Speaker 1: come true. So it's not difficult because to see somebody
Speaker 1: else excel makes me happy, and making somebody else's dreams
Speaker 1: come true in turn make mind come true. That's how
Speaker 1: I approach management. But the one thing with an early
Speaker 1: artist that sometimes could be positioned as difficult to meet
Speaker 1: is business etiquette. Everybody's always trying to keep it real
Speaker 1: and want to talk a certain way and add a
Speaker 1: certain way. When you get into certain rooms, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, there has to be a certain amount
Speaker 1: of etiquette. I mean I heard, you know them talk
Speaker 1: about getting into the cannabis business, and you know there
Speaker 1: are certain rules and guidelines you have to follow. So
Speaker 1: when you're in certain rooms, those rooms and guidelines become
Speaker 1: very important and you speak a certain way in a
Speaker 1: certain approach to things. That's a difficult part in the beginning,
Speaker 1: but once they catch it and to see them find
Speaker 1: out okay to get into their zone, it becomes like, wow,
Speaker 1: look at that. Now, I don't need to sit here
Speaker 1: and close the deal for you. Close your own deal.
Speaker 1: That's what you want from an artist. Why Noriri grow
Speaker 1: into who he's become? You know what I'm saying. As
Speaker 1: an artist, he was difficult and his crew was difficult
Speaker 1: everything around. But it was wonderful to see his growth
Speaker 1: because it was so much influence from thest to owner
Speaker 1: of myself. So when you see that or that hard
Speaker 1: work becomes us worth it like graduated and not even graduated,
Speaker 1: it's like yeah, because we always knew he had it
Speaker 1: in it, because sometimes our job is identified talent before
Speaker 1: it knows this talented and to bring that talent out
Speaker 1: so you know, and then when you see it actually happened,
Speaker 1: it's like when you when you harvest that strange and
Speaker 1: it comes out perfect. You've harvested an artist. And now
Speaker 1: look where they look what they could do, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like, okay, all right on to next.
Speaker 1: You's good over here, next they need you. You got
Speaker 1: you got the best shirt on right now. One flower
Speaker 1: at a motherfucking time, flowing at the time, baby, all right?
Speaker 1: That is that the logo? Is it? The slogan? Nah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of kind of for us a movement, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And just it's designed internally for
Speaker 1: us to uh, you know, keep it, keep it one
Speaker 1: step at the time. Keeping grassroots obviously the temptations to
Speaker 1: be real big. We just want to make sure as
Speaker 1: we move and grow, we're impactful, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of internally what it means to me.
Speaker 1: So Marlboro come tomorrow and say I want to buy
Speaker 1: y'all say one flower the time or you saying at
Speaker 1: the time. Are you're saying we're selling? That depends on this.
Speaker 1: This is what I think. I think Marble is not
Speaker 1: gonna give me my value, and it's a compliment if
Speaker 1: they come, that's our value. I apologize. So I would
Speaker 1: take it as flattering that they're interested, but I would
Speaker 1: assume that they're not gonna give me the most that
Speaker 1: we can get for what we've built. I think that's
Speaker 1: not the best way to get where we're trying to go.
Speaker 1: It's tough, marm Bro. That's funny because you know, I
Speaker 1: love new pests that side of things, So I don't
Speaker 1: I just don't want to be hypocritical, because that's what
Speaker 1: like um, it seems like, you know, cannabis has headed
Speaker 1: towards like um. You know, these big tobacco companies that
Speaker 1: are losing money because people are smoking more marijuana nowadays
Speaker 1: that they're smoking tobacco and I feel like that's what
Speaker 1: is that is that factual? They're losing money. I have
Speaker 1: no idea for saying this is in my world, like
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know like in real life what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like in my world, I don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of cigarette smokers. I got about two left and
Speaker 1: our crew I think it's Deuce and Um Sunny D
Speaker 1: and they're like Toronto Source Rex's you know what I'm saying, Um,
Speaker 1: but everybody else is pretty much they moved on to
Speaker 1: James Cool. Look at James Crew smoking a big cigar.
Speaker 1: I mean not to say that that's even better than
Speaker 1: a cigarette, but it's it's it's um, it's it's more
Speaker 1: acceptable almost, you know what I'm saying. Like I could
Speaker 1: be anywhere that you could smoke a cigar in the pool,
Speaker 1: but you're smoke a cigarette. It's like like what are
Speaker 1: you doing? Still? Right? So? Um, are you guys trying
Speaker 1: to have products that like like a candagar? You know
Speaker 1: the beauty is to be honest, you for a weed
Speaker 1: and anything. I mean, I think for us, we want
Speaker 1: to maximize how beneficial it can be for people and
Speaker 1: and and leverage our position and our access to make
Speaker 1: sure that we kind of do that. A friend told me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a hair caroline product. It's just many ways as the
Speaker 1: way Canadas affected you at twenty two as where it
Speaker 1: affects you at forty two. Right, it's a different thing.
Speaker 1: It's just a lot of little avenues and lanes. But
Speaker 1: I mean you can put weed in anything. That's that's
Speaker 1: the beginning. We want to kind of make it makes
Speaker 1: sense and kind of perfect our craft as far as
Speaker 1: how we can affect your lifestyle. So that's the approach
Speaker 1: we try to take to it. But the Cannon gard no,
Speaker 1: I love you more and more. Smoking a better more
Speaker 1: something a better changed my life. You know, you ever
Speaker 1: thought we would be legal, James Gruls, I mean to
Speaker 1: be honest, it's part of the earth. It's a healing flower,
Speaker 1: you know, and there were so many uses for it
Speaker 1: that I never thought it was really loss as its
Speaker 1: legal illegal, But now I never thought that that would
Speaker 1: be this much of a great business for young blacks
Speaker 1: and Natinos to get into and to really benefit from.
Speaker 1: But it's also kind of for me, kind of double
Speaker 1: edged swords to see all the people incarcerated. That's that's
Speaker 1: what needs to be you know, that's what needs to
Speaker 1: be dealt with. It's like it's like the cure for
Speaker 1: the problem. It's like all these brothers incarcerated, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, for selling Tracy bags when he was young,
Speaker 1: you know, and now there's a bunch of young black
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs that are invested in the business, in the cannabis business.
Speaker 1: I just wish we were more invested in helping those
Speaker 1: guys out to get them out of jail, and not
Speaker 1: only to get them out, but also to help them
Speaker 1: come back into society a certain one. Things have changed
Speaker 1: a big of the Meek Male and Kim Kardashian, they're
Speaker 1: actually fighting for that for like for people and pushes
Speaker 1: or you just freestyling right now, but he let down
Speaker 1: with the feel about that. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: It's the reality we deal with every day. I got
Speaker 1: locked up seventeen times, So that's what I'm saying. No
Speaker 1: one came to me and saying sorry, and it's no
Speaker 1: black people their own one time I got this. This
Speaker 1: is how funked up it was in New York City
Speaker 1: at one point, one point, the police see me smoking.
Speaker 1: I threw this ship and I'm a good like Skelly player,
Speaker 1: So like when I throw the blood that I cannot
Speaker 1: find it. The police came and said I found your blood.
Speaker 1: I said, were because I wanted to, and they still
Speaker 1: locked me up, Like I'm a good you don't even
Speaker 1: play Skelly. Skelly, like this is a foul game like
Speaker 1: you do. So I listen, I saw the blood, so
Speaker 1: there's no way they found it, and they still locked
Speaker 1: me up. I'm smelling it and having the That's how
Speaker 1: bad New York City laws was, and then they legalized
Speaker 1: it and says you can't participate if you had a marijuana.
Speaker 1: Think there's a lot of layers to it, because if
Speaker 1: you think about it, like the fact that that black
Speaker 1: and Latinos are highly incarcerated, the amount of black incarcerated
Speaker 1: for as small we defenses, and then you see these
Speaker 1: big cannabis companies not reflecting that population, and I think
Speaker 1: there has to be something that balances that out, because
Speaker 1: if anything, you need to look at these guys and
Speaker 1: cars as pioneers of an industry. No, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think the issue is what are we gonna do about it?
Speaker 1: Like they're they're kind of doing it in front of
Speaker 1: our face. So you know, all alluded to the culture
Speaker 1: and and not knows the culture better than anybody. What
Speaker 1: are we gonna do with all our influence and power
Speaker 1: to the fact that they're taking us from us? Since
Speaker 1: billions and dollars A step said something. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's very important. We gotta understand all of our
Speaker 1: culture has been vultued. Right that the monograph ads like
Speaker 1: he's been taking shots at like he'd been having some
Speaker 1: people was arrested, but it's legal over here, like he's
Speaker 1: been taking shots like at the whole government. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've been people that like not as he should.
Speaker 1: I mean, is very hypocritical, but I think it's safe
Speaker 1: to say there's no way that that anybody is going
Speaker 1: to be able to compete with these big corporations, like
Speaker 1: a big tobacco company that has these infrastructures. Nobody's going
Speaker 1: to compete with that right now. No, No, what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say, you get it from a big tobacco company,
Speaker 1: they're not They're not there. When they get in it,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be different. What I'm trying to say to
Speaker 1: you is this is that I think personally is my opinion.
Speaker 1: The equity is the branding side of it and the branding.
Speaker 1: To me, we don't I don't think we put enough value.
Speaker 1: I mean we I think we know that there's a
Speaker 1: value in branding. But I think that's that's a lot
Speaker 1: of value that's brought to the table that when these
Speaker 1: people with these infrastructures get involved, they're gonna need the
Speaker 1: branding side of it. And that's where everybody. That's where
Speaker 1: like the cars are being held by the minority factions.
Speaker 1: I think the branding is everything. I think to have
Speaker 1: an effective brand, you want control of the supply chain
Speaker 1: now because you want a good weed. You want some kids.
Speaker 1: You know, I like, I really smoke. So I want
Speaker 1: to be able to influence what we're putting out smoking now, brother,
Speaker 1: you know I don't want to be too outs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, you gotta support your product. You
Speaker 1: can't say that light up, light up you want to
Speaker 1: shout to like shot God, he is a man of
Speaker 1: shot man. What you put you on tag a bone,
Speaker 1: don't do it. That's the one that's a killing. You
Speaker 1: need shot glass? All right? Cool? But the branding, the
Speaker 1: branding is everything. We support that, and what we're trying
Speaker 1: to do is facilitate opportunities for brands to kind of
Speaker 1: solve that problem with the supply and where you bro
Speaker 1: Chicago together. Okay, Chicago, Chicago, some drill ship in the cannabis.
Speaker 1: I respect that. God Damn, I'm just h and c J.
Speaker 1: Got we right? Whoopt? We right? We dropped, dropped three strains?
Speaker 1: We dropped and I got a pH d in the
Speaker 1: showing amount of time about this business. And hats off
Speaker 1: to you because I know you've been in front of
Speaker 1: pioneer from the beginning. It was a lot, but yeah,
Speaker 1: we dropped the three strains we dropped? Whoopt drops? Az
Speaker 1: U two cookies? No, it's through it's actually through Munchies,
Speaker 1: which is a mine already owned company out on the
Speaker 1: West coast um and our distribution is with cookies. But
Speaker 1: it's almost like a necessary branding tool right now, where
Speaker 1: you know, you don't want the artists to go parking
Speaker 1: money on a bus down and and and the chain.
Speaker 1: You want parking money somewhere to invest in future business
Speaker 1: and counterbusiness a great future business to invest in because
Speaker 1: it's still growing and it's becoming more legal as we
Speaker 1: go along, you know, I mean I saw soon now
Speaker 1: you know, one of the biggest Latin arts in the world,
Speaker 1: you know, just took over Puerto Rico. But with the
Speaker 1: grow and with the with the retail stores, it's growing
Speaker 1: and he's growing and they'll be retail ss in Puerto
Speaker 1: Rico with cookies parted with yes, Puerto Ricos, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: So there's this whole new business that and it's not
Speaker 1: just in hip hop world. It's also going more into
Speaker 1: the lat world. Just like you got to talking about
Speaker 1: drill before. I mean, Latin artists have driel records. Now
Speaker 1: you know, you got followed. You gotta how to follow
Speaker 1: you always. So it's like the culture is the time
Speaker 1: is shortening when people are picking up on what top
Speaker 1: and how to get involved. But we c J Yeah,
Speaker 1: we definitely did a strain on We learned a lot
Speaker 1: um and hats off guys, because you guys were there
Speaker 1: from the beginning. I cannot imagine what it was like
Speaker 1: that you guys are willing to do, like get along,
Speaker 1: get down with other artists to give them their own
Speaker 1: strain under your umbrella. Or it's like, yeah, we've been
Speaker 1: talking to a bunch of different artists to be honest,
Speaker 1: that that fit the right mode of what they're trying
Speaker 1: to do. You know what I'm saying. We've been having
Speaker 1: some great conversations and you're gonna be seeing some partnerships
Speaker 1: being announced in the very near future. Okay, we're enough
Speaker 1: for me? Yeah, enough for me. He's the least Papa.
Speaker 1: Are we good? I think it's I think it's like
Speaker 1: two more questions. Man, I think you got one left?
Speaker 1: What I got? I don't know. I don't know something.
Speaker 1: Yeah I do. I want I'm trying to get in
Speaker 1: the weed. Mother. The reason why I keep drilling down
Speaker 1: no pun intended on drill on the branding side is
Speaker 1: I feel that when this this thing could go national,
Speaker 1: it could go international, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: then when you have a brand that's just known, you
Speaker 1: can license license, license, license, lis So here's what they think.
Speaker 1: If there's gonna be twenty licenses in New York, a
Speaker 1: dirty licenses in New York or whatever, they feel like
Speaker 1: they can make the brand themselves and make a higher margin.
Speaker 1: So what ends up happening is you know some of
Speaker 1: this system, but it is you want the best product.
Speaker 1: They feel like, you know, so that's that's where that
Speaker 1: just gets tricky. So you have to have control of
Speaker 1: the supply chain. You gotta be able to grow it.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, that's a lot. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's black people in its farming, so for me, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not Do you think that the cultivation side of
Speaker 1: it is one of the most important parts for people
Speaker 1: to get involved in. I think cultivation and branding go
Speaker 1: hand and that's the most important part of the whole.
Speaker 1: The word is distribution and all of that land because
Speaker 1: I feel like you want, we want to be vertically
Speaker 1: integrated whenever possible, because we were in there early. So
Speaker 1: that's an option, but the way they're doing things, it's
Speaker 1: not necessarily as much of an option, you know, So
Speaker 1: distributions Frances France, I don't know about France already grows,
Speaker 1: already grows in France. You see Murder Mountain the documentary
Speaker 1: the first they're murdering people up there and we ain't
Speaker 1: up there and county. It's a whole different, every every
Speaker 1: state is different. Called Murder Mountain. Fam that's different, though
Speaker 1: it's not different. They're murdering people in the mountains, ram
Speaker 1: taking taking a week yea cocaine. If they're gonna watch
Speaker 1: the documentary, I knew, Like my people said, Yo, none
Speaker 1: of that. We don't want to come to Homeboll County
Speaker 1: with us. I was like, what, Like, I've been in
Speaker 1: the worst flits in America. Like that's a ChIL. I
Speaker 1: watched the documentary. I was like, I want to go there.
Speaker 1: I think I think I think he said something point
Speaker 1: ain't everybody it's got You got to be part of
Speaker 1: the coachure. You gotta live in the coaches has to
Speaker 1: be real, has to be authentic, right, just like the music.
Speaker 1: Same thing. That's important because the culture itself is growing exponentially,
Speaker 1: that's right, and it's all mixed, not about black and brown,
Speaker 1: mixed culture something that's right, you know. But it's gonna
Speaker 1: go corporate. That's the thing. It's inevitable. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to say, is how do we take advantage of
Speaker 1: something that it's inevitably going to go very corporate and
Speaker 1: they have a brand. That's what keeps saying, I can't,
Speaker 1: we can't be naive to that. You got a great team,
Speaker 1: you gotta knowledge. But you said something you said you
Speaker 1: were as like thirty million right, So who was the
Speaker 1: people that you went to to wasise this money? So
Speaker 1: it was some of my own money. Um, it was
Speaker 1: a bunch of ex athletes or whatever. And then like
Speaker 1: forensic Family. Okay, no, none of what you wanted. The
Speaker 1: name we had we just started to get institute was
Speaker 1: public yeah, like spot, like that's the start that corporated.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean that I want. I want
Speaker 1: to drill down in fact, this's billion dollar companies are
Speaker 1: four years old. They don't have they have a four
Speaker 1: year head start, So I get it. But I'm saying
Speaker 1: those people aren't as far along as you might think
Speaker 1: that are ahead of the curve. And at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it's still selling marijuana, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I don't want to overcomplicate what that's
Speaker 1: not just but it's not just to your point, not
Speaker 1: just matter wanted. It's it's also oils. It's also it's
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know we started in
Speaker 1: constant trates like I yeah, but at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's selling cannabis in some way shape fair enough,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, and I think y'all
Speaker 1: influence the culture, like no what I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: the branding thing. I just want to when it's monetized
Speaker 1: and want us to be in the best position, in
Speaker 1: the strongest position possible as far as the brand side
Speaker 1: of things. But I agree with you, the worldwide distribution
Speaker 1: of the cannabis brand is the you know, the way
Speaker 1: to go. Are people even like, all right, you know
Speaker 1: what all the States is going legal? People even think
Speaker 1: about Amsterdam like overseas all people like? But they are
Speaker 1: they all then when Denver first went, they nemorous. They
Speaker 1: were all in Denver trying to figure it out. Did
Speaker 1: you see a documentary about the seeds? No, there are
Speaker 1: scenes that course a million dollars. What's the name of
Speaker 1: that company? It's crazy. They're guys that go the seeds.
Speaker 1: There are guys that go to the Amazon to find
Speaker 1: a certain seed for a certain stream, and the seeds
Speaker 1: or a million dollars, Like the business is so diverse. Crazy,
Speaker 1: the seed itself, it's so diverse. I was like a
Speaker 1: million dollars for a seed. So it doesn't sure good crop.
Speaker 1: You're just getting seeds, good seeds. You don't know what
Speaker 1: kind of female you're gonna get, right, Yeah, But now
Speaker 1: got to be a female seed, right, but we planted
Speaker 1: you just you said, what kind of female seed? You know, females,
Speaker 1: that's a big word. I don't know what that at
Speaker 1: least that female, you know, I don't think it has
Speaker 1: an I'm saying female. It's a female. It's either or
Speaker 1: you want it to be female. Then you wanted to
Speaker 1: be dope because that's true. But it's just like it's
Speaker 1: like we come from the same mother and father, but
Speaker 1: you know, y'all could be brothers and y'all are totally different.
Speaker 1: So it's the same thing with the females of the seeds, right,
Speaker 1: they come from the same mother and father, but each
Speaker 1: one grows different. You don't want to grow nine times
Speaker 1: out of team. You don't want to grow the one
Speaker 1: that looked like me, not him. You went there that viola.
Speaker 1: I just felt like crippy. To be honest, you just
Speaker 1: love Miami. He just loved anything. Come out with crippy.
Speaker 1: Wait for it, I'm gonna come out with it again, crippy, crippy.
Speaker 1: But then, what's what's the league going to do? Nothing
Speaker 1: he got to do with my crippy, crippy, cripp What
Speaker 1: do you think? Hazes? Jada Kisses the last two people
Speaker 1: on earth that smoke hazes. So let me ask what's
Speaker 1: the real is the real haze? Where was that at? Sid?
Speaker 1: You get it only New York? I like your questions, sir, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure that out, Edie, that's a million
Speaker 1: out of seed. Like, did you imagine if you had
Speaker 1: a license to sell Hayes in New York? Leave? I'll
Speaker 1: be honest, but they don't got the nineteen double, you know,
Speaker 1: they don't got that Haye. But but but let's be clear.
Speaker 1: Creepy is Hayes. It's Hays little cousins mix, It's Hayes,
Speaker 1: little cousin. I look at us about it's o G.
Speaker 1: It's that's true. At one point they call you remember
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