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Speaker 1: Nice. Hell le Loo, welcome to be Naughty but Nice show.

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Speaker 1: I'm your Headstrom shooter and it's Thursday. My favorite day

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Speaker 1: have Loopy with us, it's also a great night to

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Speaker 1: go out in New York City. It's my favorite night

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Speaker 1: Caba Ray. I know. I'm so so excited about that. Hey, Loopy,

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Speaker 1: are you there? What are you doing tonight?

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Speaker 2: I saw De Vido at MSG. It was a great show.

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Speaker 2: And so I've been just going out every night, you know,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I love it. I love it. Yesterday Morning

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Speaker 1: Guys on Z one hundred with Elvis Durant. Thank you

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Speaker 1: Elvis for having us on. He's such a good friend.

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Speaker 1: Elvis loves gossip, but he likes naughty but Nice. He's nice,

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Speaker 1: He's not a mean guy. You've met Elvis many many

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Speaker 1: and so yesterday our podcast numbers exploded thanks to Elvis plugin.

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Speaker 1: So if you're a new listener, welcome welcome, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Naughty but Nice Show. My name is Rob Shooter,

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Speaker 1: and I'm one of America's most read, most respected entertainment

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Speaker 1: reporters gossip columnists. In fact, I think the National Enquirer

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Speaker 1: said that I'm the most red gossip columnist in America.

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Speaker 1: Look at that Mark Boom boom boom. So welcome to

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Speaker 1: the party, everybody. For the next twenty minutes, We're going

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Speaker 1: to have a lot of fun, lots of celebrity gossip

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Speaker 1: in a naughty but nice way. We're not mean girls

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Speaker 1: here on the Naughty but Nice Show. We're not mean

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Last night I saw a concert too. I saw Barry

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Speaker 1: five sold out concerts. It was fabulous. I love Barry,

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Speaker 1: And while I was waiting to go into his little

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Speaker 1: jump into a shall What time is it, my friends?

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Speaker 1: It is tea time time. Laurenceannges, who you know as

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes you have to leave ignorant comments to

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Speaker 1: But it's a lesson for all of us. When you

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Speaker 1: back with grace after harsh criticism. My question is, would

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Speaker 1: She's really very, very nice and gosh in person, she's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about someone who is no stranger to criticism,

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Speaker 2: Tory Spelling. Oh, she says she has the lady parts

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Speaker 1: But this is what Tory does. Tory doesn't hold anything back,

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Speaker 1: nice Tory. Normally we love you here, but today not

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Speaker 1: so much. Okay, moving along, the executor of OJ Simpson's

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Speaker 1: But now he's changed his mind and saying that the

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Speaker 1: Just a sad, sad to a sad, sad story. No

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know this happens to be the thirtieth anniversary.

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Speaker 2: This June is the thirtieth anniversary of the brutal killings.

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Speaker 1: our dear friend Mark Lupo, Hey, loopy, let's get to

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Speaker 1: listening to The Naughty but Nice with Rob and Mark show,

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Speaker 1: Nice, take care of everybody.

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