WEBVTT - Keep On Suing! 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:06.360 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:11.080 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty Armstrong and 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:27.320 Gatty and he Armstrong and Leddy Welcome, how are you doing? 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:34.040 Happy Monday? This is always enlightening and a pleasure to 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.240 talk to Onastasia Boden, the Senior Attorney for Equality and 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.480 Opportunity at the Pacific Legal Foundation Ona Stasia is also 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.760 the host of the very popular In Descent podcast on 0:00:43.840 --> 0:00:44.200 a Stagia. 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:45.680 How are you doing? 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:48.240 Great? Great to be here, great, Great to have you 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.240 as always, So I know you have a couple of 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.519 things you want to talk about. Then I've got I'm 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:55.400 going to alert you to the next frontier of First 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:59.680 Amendment law and privacy law Monday case in case you're 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:01.520 not to it, and I have a feeling you are, 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.520 But anyway, I in a number of folks read with 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:09.119 interest last week that the President put out a couple 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:14.600 of new orders restricting birthright citizenship, including quote unquote birth tourism, 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.880 after the Supreme Court struck down the first attempt seemed 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.080 a little narrower, maybe a little more carefully crafted. What's 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:22.880 your take on it? 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:23.559 Will it work? 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:24.720 Yeah? 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:26.640 Well, we you know, it was just a few weeks 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:29.480 ago that the Supreme Court, you know, shut down Trump's 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:33.640 first birthright citizenship and saying that our constitution broadly grants 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:39.200 birthright citizenship with very narrow exceptions, no birthright citizenship for 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:44.960 enemy occupiers or diplomats. So now Trump kind of seized 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:48.080 on that language and issued two new executive orders. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:49.680 The first one attacks birth. 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:53.400 Tourism, as you say, it denies or evokes visas to 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.520 people who are coming here just for birth tourism, and 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:01.920 actually authorizes enforcement action against people who facilitate birth tourism. 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.720 The other one seizes on those narrow exceptions and says, Okay, 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.880 if enemy occupiers don't get birthright citizenship, we're going to 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:13.480 designate a whole host of countries as terrorist organizations and 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.240 say anybody, any member of those terrorist organizations, uh, can 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:20.520 no longer have birthright citizenship. And then it says not 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:26.560 only diplomats or foreign ministers, which has been the historical exception, 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:30.920 but also just basic employees of embassies or you know, 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.160 people who work at the World Bank who are here 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.280 for a temporary amount of time, they don't get birthright 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:37.600 citizenship either. 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:39.799 I don't think that's going to work. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.280 But we do know that, you know, a couple of 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:46.400 the justices who struck down the first executive order had 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.600 some kind of hymning and hung language in there, just 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:53.120 as Kavanaugh in particular. That left open, you know, the 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.160 door for Trump to kind of expand on the historical exceptions. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:57.760 So we're going to We're gonna have to see about that. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.160 I assume they went to some at least to define 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.760 what birth tourism is exactly. 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.079 It has to do with the length of stay or not. 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:10.600 Really no people who come here, you know, specifically for 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.320 the purpose of giving birth and then returning, So coming 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.959 here temporarily with no interest in actually being here for vacation. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.639 You know, that's the idea. That's what the language gets at. 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.040 But yeah, as you say, that's kind of how how 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:24.640 are they even going to enforce that? How do you 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:28.240 know when somebody, you know, wasn't it our World Cup 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:32.560 soccer player, his you know, the Baligan, the one who 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:34.800 got the famous red card and all that at the 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:35.280 World Cup. 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:36.680 His mom was here. 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:38.560 He was only born United States because his mom was 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.760 here for vacation and she was so close to giving 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:43.520 birth that they wouldn't let her fly back, and so 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.040 she d up giving birth in America, and that's how 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:47.320 we got a great World Cup player. But you know, 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.880 who would Who's to know whether that's an accident or 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:50.560 birth tourism. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:51.680 I don't know, it might be a little bit. 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:52.640 Yeah, of course. 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:55.680 Wait a minute, you're a mom, right, how many women 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:58.160 do you know who are nine months pregnant and engage 0:03:58.160 --> 0:03:59.560 in international travel? 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.320 Well, that's true, it's weird, but I think that truly 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.600 was an accident. She didn't come here for birth tourism. 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:06.640 I'm surprised they even let her on the plane to 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.040 begin with to get here. But yeah, I mean, we'll 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.640 see how it works out. There's also a lot of 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:15.120 questions about how big of an issue birth tourism really is. 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:18.080 The Trump administration says that it's you know, three and 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:21.240 a half million people a year coming here for birth tourism. 0:04:21.560 --> 0:04:23.520 You know, other people I've heard figures as low as 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.440 twenty six thousand, So it's not clear. You know, how 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.560 sillyent this issue really is or more of a political 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:29.560 talking point. 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.400 Well, yeah, yeah, I would. 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:35.080 I would advocate the thought that it's more salient than 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.760 it might seem based purely on the numbers, if the 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:41.240 communist Chinese are doing it intentionally to get themselves lots 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.640 of loyal little quote unquote US citizens that they can 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:48.680 command like they command all the all their subjects. 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.039 Yeah, it does seem like the balance has sort of changed, 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:55.920 Like historically people thought of it differently, and now we're 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:58.839 thinking of it more. As you know, there's like some 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:03.320 serious foreign foreign affairs issues going on in national security 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:08.240 concerns versus you know, historically people used pejorative terms like 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.719 anchor babies or something. I think there's two different things 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:11.560 now going on. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.960 Yeah, yeah, so I know you're about the law. Just 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:18.159 a quick note on the politics. Chuck Schumer called the 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.520 president's orders illegal quote. Trump has just sent himself up 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.360 for yet another loss in the courts. Democrats will challenge 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:27.719 this order and we will win, coming out in favor 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.120 of birth tourism, which seems like an odd stance politically, 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.839 but they just knee your compose everything. So do you 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:38.480 think there's any chance that the administration's more narrowly drawn 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:42.720 measure will pass muster with the courts, even the Supreme 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.159 Court well. 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:47.320 With the birth tourism order that one has to do 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.200 with immigration enforcement. 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:51.720 So the president has a lot of. 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:56.440 Authority and discretion to sort of deny or revoke visas 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.960 and exclude people. You know, I think he probably is 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.760 on firmer ground and saying, hey, if you're coming here 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:07.360 for the specific purpose of giving birth versus vacation, which 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.680 is or whatever you say to get your visa, that's 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:11.360 a form of fraud and we can deny you. I 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.400 think that one's going to be harder to challenge, just 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:17.560 because the president has so much authority over those kinds 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.240 of decisions. But when it comes to birthright citizenship, you know, 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:27.120 the Supreme Court used pretty clear language saying our constitution 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:32.200 is different than you know, European countries. The Framers deliberately 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:37.320 granted broad birthright citizenship, and you know, this attempt to 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:40.120 sort of seize on the very few exceptions and widen them, 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:41.839 I think Trump's going to have a hard time again. 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.520 Can Congress cut down on this or would it have 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:48.320 to be an amendment to the Constitution? 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:50.240 True and amendment? 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:51.960 Yeah? Okay, all right, fair enough. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:56.160 Anastasia Boden of the Pacific Legal Foundation is online. All right, 0:06:56.200 --> 0:07:00.440 here's my exciting new frontier and first Amendment law and 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.200 The case that really got my attention was did you 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.599 see this? It was a high powered attorney in New 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:09.880 York City who was smooching with his much younger employee 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:12.040 on a park bench in I don't know if it's 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:13.800 I don't think it was Central Park is in a 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:17.720 park in New York City, and this online provocateur, dude, 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:20.720 influencer guy whatever he was who does this sort of thing, 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:26.080 videotape them and then asked and then said, hey, what 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:27.640 are you doing their kids around? 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:29.720 Quick making out, get a room, blah blah blah. 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:33.200 And they immediately reacted with embarrassment and chagrin knowing they 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.120 were being taped, and tried to get his phone and 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.120 blah blah blah. So I know there's no presumption of 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:42.720 privacy in public, but what about if you have people 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:48.880 who are exploiting that for profit knowing that it will 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:50.960 embarrass you, damage your reputation, etc. 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:52.840 That might not be their purpose. 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:56.280 It's not like, you know, slander libel, But that is 0:07:56.320 --> 0:08:00.440 the inevitable result. I mean is that does does the 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.840 law take that on at all at this point? Or 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:04.920 is that just a completely brand new gray area? 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:05.840 Yeah? 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.280 Well, first, can I say I hate this cultural moment. 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:10.960 I did say that because it was it went viral 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.680 because apparently it's a you know what's some high powered 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:17.200 attorney and then he's having an affair with one of 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:19.840 the low powered attorneys or the new attorneys, and so 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:21.880 they're calling it like the cold Play moment of. 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.600 Twenty twenty six, right when when that was. 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.160 Caught on camera, and I just I hate this moment 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:31.840 that that goes viral and moral so interested in everyone's life, like, oh, 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.480 it's it's horrible. But in terms of the law, I 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.000 think I think that's going to be a tough one. 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:41.800 I mean, we're balancing different privacy interests with First Amendment 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:47.079 interests and generally, yeah, when you're out in public, you're 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.880 you know, you know that you're being watched. But that 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.800 the problem is that technology has evolved so much like 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.320 you can be out in public. It's like, can we 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:59.040 not leave our homes anymore? Because you have no expectation 0:08:59.120 --> 0:08:59.680 of privacy? 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.040 Horrible and you could be recorded at audio video for 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:06.720 a very long time before you had any awareness of it. 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:10.360 And then this intersects with you know, the flock cameras, 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:14.000 the license plate cameras that are now all over America. 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:18.920 And so you've got and I was told years and 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.480 years ago that a surveilled society is an obedient society. 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.560 It just changes behavior in a thousand ways you don't 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.640 even think about, in a way that's very un American. 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:32.040 And I'm just really really concerned. 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:33.920 And I don't know what to do about it, that 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:37.800 the society that assumes every single moment when they leave 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:41.760 their house and because of certain laws, literally into their 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.760 fenced off backyard, even they could be observed by. 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:46.280 A drone because that's not illegal. 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:51.880 It's just gonna really twist the way Americans behave in 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:52.959 a way that's not healthy. 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:57.240 Yeah, I think that's that's absolutely right. And if the 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.400 government is using that footage, there's gonna be a lot 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.760 more protections on you know, what they can collect and 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.080 what they can do with it. But when it's just 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.160 private people out in public, you know, Unfortunately, I don't 0:10:07.200 --> 0:10:10.040 know that there's gonna that there's any constitutional at least 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:12.840 claims against people like that. I guess Congress could or 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:15.720 the state legislators could pass some laws saying you can't 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.480 use it, but it's gonna that would be subject to 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:18.800 some First Amendment challenges. 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.079 So I don't know with private people. 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:22.600 The problem is in this day and age, and this 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:25.320 gets to like the recent debates over other things, is 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.960 you know, we've always had this line between the private 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.160 sector and then the government. The government is subject to 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.000 the Constitution and you know the public is not. But 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:39.720 you know, corporations, individuals wield so much power that sometimes 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:41.800 the line becomes blurrying. And that's why a lot of people, 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:48.240 you know, when Facebook and Twitter were we're deplatforming certain 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:50.640 political views, people were really upset about that, and they 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:53.720 thought that there should be restrictions on it. But you know, 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:57.160 unfortunately only the government usually is subject to those restrictions, 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.360 not there's a First Amendment right to do what you 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:02.400 want with the everything else for the public right. 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.360 But you know the problem with that from the example 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.480 you gave is that a lot of what the private 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:10.400 companies did was at the behest of government officials who 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:14.480 have regulatory power over them, taxation power over them, and 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.400 all sorts of other things. So at what point, you know, 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:20.680 if I have a cattle prod and I tell poor 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:24.120 Michael to rob a bank, you can't pretend that Michael 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:25.000 robbed the bank. 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.240 He was compelled to so man. 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:29.520 Yeah, that's right, that's right. 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.600 So that's the tricky thing to disentangle. But certainly when 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.679 the governments get involved, then you know, call me up 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:40.720 if they're surveilling you and using your footage or their 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:42.240 footage of you, or you know, let me know. 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:42.920 We'll sue them. 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.840 Meanwhile, I'll just roam around in parks trying to find 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:49.880 people I can embarrass for profit. Great Scott, oh boy, 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:53.800 oh boy. Your careers, Uh yeah, I know you and 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.680 your pals at the Pacific Legal Foundation are going to 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.280 be busy for the rest of your lives, your children's lives, 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:00.440 and your grandchildren lives. 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.239 But the price. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.880 Of liberty, in my opinion, Anastasia, is eternal vigilance. 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:10.120 So I'd love to sue myself out of a job. Though, 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:10.959 you know, I love it. 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.360 I wish I wish I wasn't so busy, but here 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:13.640 we are. 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:19.680 Yeah, yeah, what are you gonna do? Reality? It's so impressive? Yeah, 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:23.280 no kidding. Do you have a bumper stickers that says that? 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:24.080 I do? 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:27.240 I have a sweatshirt that says A constitution says no. 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:28.760 That? 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:31.560 Oh I love that? 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.319 Or those? Really I'll google it, honest. Age Bowden to 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:36.920 the Pacific Legal Foundation. Hey, it's always great to talk. 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.160 Keep up the good work and let's stay in touch. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.960 Thanks for having me on all right, of course, yeah, 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:42.440 our pleasure. 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:43.680 More to gum stay with us. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:45.800 Yet. 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.079 Been meaning to get to this for a little while. 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.360 I haven't squeezed it in yet. But a piece in 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.319 the New York Times that got a fair amount of 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.960 attention gen Z fell out of love with work. I 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:02.839 don't blame them, and it's a super self pitying. 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:03.839 Piece by a young woman. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.920 And there's a great reply by Alex Demus in the Dispatch. 0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:14.080 We can't indulge gen z malaise. Gen Z's crisis of 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:17.040 agency deserves compassion, but that doesn't mean it's well founded. 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:18.600 And it has to do with the fact that the 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:20.920 entire history of the world and economics and everything is 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.360 ups and downs and variations. And this becomes a little harder, 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.640 but that becomes easier. And rents are high, but that's 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.160 low and blah blah blah, and just the idea that 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.440 woe is me, the world is so tough now I've 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.880 given up is just it's pathetic, and it's always, always, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:37.480 always been pathetic anyway. That's a super brief summary, but 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.160 it really fits with Bill Maher and Micro's conversation the 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.520 other day. The two of them got together. Here's what 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:43.120 it sounded like. 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:48.120 Well, there's seven million men who able bodied men, mostly young, 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.480 who are what they call nilph. Nilph is in odd 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:54.680 labor force. In the labor force. This is different than unemployed. 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:58.680 Unemployment means you're looking, but you can't find a job. 0:13:58.760 --> 0:13:59.960 This is not looking. 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.080 That exact number right now, it's like six million, nine 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:06.920 hundred and ninety thousand able bodied men, not only not working, 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.680 not looking. That's never happened in our country, not in 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:10.240 peace time. 0:14:10.320 --> 0:14:11.320 Why aren't they looking? 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.160 I think it's because the porn is too good. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.040 The porn is excellent, but. 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.800 It takes away the motivation. You have to be motivated. 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:20.640 You have to Oh, I got to get a job 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:22.720 to get a girl. Yeah, now they don't want a 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:23.800 girl because they said home and. 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:28.160 Take matters into their own head. 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:35.000 They do, putting aside the mirth at the masturbation humor, 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:36.160 let's get back to the topic. 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:40.000 Question doesn't start with what are they doing? It starts 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:44.720 with what aren't they doing. They're not volunteering at their 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.840 local church. They're not in the Kawanis Club, They're not 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.800 in the Boy Scouts or Skills USA. They're not contributing 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:52.680 anything in their community. 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:53.680 What are they doing? 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:57.480 On average, they're spending between two thousand and two thousand, 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:01.800 one hundred hours a year on their screen. It is 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.160 just we just haven't seen the like of it before. 0:15:05.520 --> 0:15:08.600 How are they able to survive? That's I don't I 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:10.720 can't paint with too broad a brush. Maybe some of 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.000 them are trust fund kids. Maybe some of them have enough. 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.840 A lot of it is money from other generations. Sure, 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.840 you know, they just hate our generation, except when we 0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:19.520 give them money. 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:20.520 That's always okay. 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:23.600 Yeah, it's always okay when you get daddy's money. Then 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:24.800 the boomers aren't so bad. 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.080 End of one Hour of the Hour one of the show. Rather, 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.040 we always do the freedom loving quote of the day. 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.520 It's different every day, obviously. Sir Benjamin Collins Brody, who 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:37.320 was eighteenth nineteenth century English surgeon, said nothing in this 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.080 world is so good as usefulness. It binds your fellow 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:42.160 creatures to you, and you to them. It tends to 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.320 the improvement of your own character, and gives you a 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.840 real importance in society, much beyond what any artificial station 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.880 can bestow. And these are men, millions of men who've 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:55.680 consented to just being useless. One final note. 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:59.520 A lot of people with a really expensive credential are 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.200 in the whole in a big way, and they're pissed. 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.600 And I don't blame them, honestly. I mean, you can 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:09.040 say what you want about it. But they took our advice. Man, 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.560 they took our advice. We said, borrow whatever it takes, 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:17.040 go follow your dream, and then go get your dream job. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:18.960 And that was a bunch of nonsense. 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:21.080 Yeah, they don't want to borrow money to get a 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.320 degree for a job that doesn't exist. 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:25.760 And I don't want to lend them money that they'll 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.640 never be able to pay back to get their credential 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:29.320 for the job. 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.840 So on that note, Michael, keep that clip around because 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.360 that's going to kick off a big segment tomorrow on 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:37.600 the show that I want to talk about the college 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:38.480 financing and how. 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:42.480 That's perverted practically everything. How much time do we have? 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:46.640 You're looking stressed? You all right? All right, okay, all right, wow, 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:48.760 he looks like he's about to puke in there. It'll 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:49.520 all be fine. 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.280 Well, I tell you what we'll talk about that when 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:56.720 we talk about that, I should mention that Coming up, 0:16:56.760 --> 0:17:00.880 we'll be talking to author and reporter Columnist and reporter 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.680 Bill Gertz about some of the issues with China these days, 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:08.480 including the whole missile stock pile controversy that's in the news. 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.199 How bad are things, why is somebody leaking it? And 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.680 what does it mean if China decides to jump ugly? 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:16.800 That coming up next, Stay with us if you can't 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:21.679 grab the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand Armstrong and Getty. 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:26.520 It's probably the number one defense related story people are 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:27.680 chatting about these days. 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:31.280 The question of US. 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:35.240 Military weapons stock piles of various sorts of missiles and munitions, 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:40.280 how low are they thanks to the granting of some 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:43.840 supplies to Ukraine and the conflict with Iran? How do 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.879 we stand in terms of preparedness to get into a 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:50.440 major conflict with obviously China. To discuss these topics and more, 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:53.800 please welcome Bill Gertz, columnist and reporter currently with The 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:57.800 Washington Times and author of eight books, several of them. 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.360 Having to do with the threats from China. Well, how 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.040 are you, huh? 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.280 Very good, Thanks, having a great summer. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:06.720 So far, so good. 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.720 Yeah, I can't complain. So let's talk about the US 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:13.640 weapons stockpiles. I'm sure you've been following the story. It's 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.719 almost a tangent to the main topic. But does it 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.680 bother you at all the amount of leaking there's been 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:22.600 about our weapon stockpiles. 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.439 No, I think it's pretty clear. In fact, in my 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:32.280 recent column, I reported that the current Defense policy Bill 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:36.080 in the House of Representatives contains a section that calls 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:40.920 on the Pentagon to report the effects of unplanned global taskings, 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.719 in other words, the use of weapons and how that 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:49.119 could affect our ability to deter China. So the information 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.159 is out there. I know that the Secretary of Defense, 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:55.199 Secretary of warpete Hexath, and the President have said we 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:59.040 have plenty of munitions, but I think it's clear that 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:03.040 we do have a shortage of missiles and especially missile 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:07.520 defense interceptors, and that it's very difficult to speed up 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:11.240 the development of more of those. That's really the issue, 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:15.240 how quickly can we replace the stocks that we've used 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.200 recently in the Iran conflict. 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:22.960 So you would argue that the folks leaking that information 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:27.760 are actually intent on upping the pressure so that we 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.399 as a country wake up and start producing this stuff 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:31.159 more aggressively. 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:37.080 Well, you know, most of the mainstream media is virulently 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:40.400 anti Trump, so they just want to report anything that's 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.240 going to make the Trump administration look bad. But I 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:46.840 think it's a real issue aside from that fact, and 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:51.840 I think the Heritage Foundation, which is really strong mega outlet, 0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:57.080 just produced a report recently which raised this issue of 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:01.760 the shortage of missiles and missile defense. So yeah, there's 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.800 that part of it, but it's also a real issue 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.680 that has to be addressed, I'm pretty sure. Also, the 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:14.119 Deputy Secretary of War recently sent a memo and to 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:18.280 defense contractors and gave them like twenty one days to 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.760 come up with a plan to develop how to produce 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:27.240 more missiles, precision guided missiles, and more missile defense interceptors. 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:30.120