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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We are

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Speaker 1: breaking down many different stories out there off the top.

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Speaker 1: We want to encourage all of you in the Tennessee

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Speaker 1: seventh Congressional district that stretches all the way from Kentucky

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Speaker 1: to Alabama, parts of Nashville, parts of Franklin, Brentwood, Clarksville, Waverley,

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Speaker 1: all the way down to the border with Alabama, all

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Speaker 1: of you listening perhaps in the Clarksville area, Fort Campbell,

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Speaker 1: A lot of you are familiar with that area. This

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Speaker 1: is in that district. Go vote special election today. Matt

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Speaker 1: Van Epps is the Republican. He's running against a crazy chick,

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Speaker 1: Afton Baine. We'll continue to talk about that during the show.

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Speaker 1: I went and voted already. This is my congressional district.

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Speaker 1: I do not want to be represent it by a

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Speaker 1: crazy chick that makes AOC sound sane. Now, as we

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Speaker 1: finished off the last hour, we were talking about the

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Speaker 1: boat strikes off Venezuela. A bunch of you want to

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Speaker 1: weigh in on those, and I was saying, again, this

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Speaker 1: is me behaving as a lawyer. Finish them off. Can

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Speaker 1: mean multiple things. It can mean to me, finishing off

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Speaker 1: the boat so that it's no longer able to do

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Speaker 1: what it was intended to do, so that the drugs

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Speaker 1: are not there, still floating that could be picked up

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Speaker 1: by another boat. And so what is and is not

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Speaker 1: intended by the orders is likely to be an issue

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Speaker 1: right now. I don't think the communication has been clear

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Speaker 1: buck as to exactly what the story is, just that

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Speaker 1: the White House has said, hey, we support the admiral here.

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Speaker 1: The President supports the admiral. The Secretary of War supports

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Speaker 1: the admiral and his ability to make decisions on the ground.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 1: We had a call from a individual who was still

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Speaker 1: with us, and that is I want to make sure

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Speaker 1: that I get his name right. I got so many

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Speaker 1: different text messages in here. That is, let's see Bobby

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Speaker 1: Charles from Maine. He's running for governor. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the primaries in June. Not a bad way to get

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Speaker 1: people to know about the primary. Here, Bobby, you've got

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Speaker 1: a pretty big radio show, so you're a smooth operator.

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Speaker 2: We like it.

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Speaker 3: I feel like you guys invited this one, so I'm

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Speaker 3: just gonna pick it up.

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Speaker 2: Oh we did, we did all right.

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Speaker 1: So, Bobby, when I say what finished them off means

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Speaker 1: this is me, being a lawyer. Finished them off can

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Speaker 1: mean a lot of different things. It can mean finish

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Speaker 1: the boat off. It can mean finish the survivors off.

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Speaker 1: That seems like a pretty clear defense. If I were

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Speaker 1: advising Secretary of War Headset, if I were advising President Trump,

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Speaker 1: if I were advising the admiral in this case, as

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Speaker 1: an attorney representing them, I would say, go ahead and

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Speaker 1: get your story out there.

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Speaker 2: What has finished them off? Mean?

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Speaker 1: We wanted to end the threat that this boat brought

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Speaker 1: to bear. We had not done that yet. It was

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Speaker 1: still floating out there. There was the possibility that drugs

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Speaker 1: could be picked up, and so we ordered a second

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Speaker 1: strike to.

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Speaker 2: Take out that boat.

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Speaker 1: Is that a valid argument from your perspective, based on

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Speaker 1: your knowledge of the rules of engagement?

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Speaker 3: Yes, So let me give you my perspective. I was

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Speaker 3: a US Court of Appeals clerk after Columbia Law School,

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Speaker 3: long before being Assistant Secretary, managing counter narcotics programs around

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Speaker 3: the world, among which were shoot down programs in Peru

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Speaker 3: and Columbia in which we gave orders we didn't give them.

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Speaker 3: I worked with the heads of southcom who gave them.

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Speaker 3: But those field commanders gave orders to finish off planes

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Speaker 3: that were in the sky carrying drugs. We had cute intelligence.

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Speaker 3: They refused to comply. They continued moving forward. The same way.

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Speaker 3: If you were in World War Two on a battlefield

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Speaker 3: and a tank is coming at you, and you've disabled

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Speaker 3: the gun, but the tank keeps rolling, you have every

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Speaker 3: think they should ask for this, and I think everything

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Speaker 3: else is a false bogie. There is a legal opinion.

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Speaker 3: I guarantee you, as a former Navy intelligence guy for

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Speaker 3: is a legal opinion in the file that says something

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Speaker 3: like this. That organization is identified as an FTO. It

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Speaker 3: an FTO, it is by definition engaging in premeditated, politically

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Speaker 3: motivated acts of violence against non combatant targets. Because it

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Speaker 3: destroy the drugs and to hit and destroy the boat.

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Speaker 3: And there is no under the rules of law and

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Speaker 3: combatant that you're going to do that if you hit

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Speaker 3: half the boat. And we currently have policies that the

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Speaker 3: US Coast Guard uses in a latoral waters with snipers.

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Speaker 3: They don't call them snipers, but they're snipers. They have

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Speaker 3: big they have big firearms in a slang dedicated to

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Speaker 3: fast drug boat. They've been there for twenty five years.

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Speaker 4: If we feel that we have not hit and disabled.

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Speaker 3: And finished the task of a combatant coming at us,

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Speaker 3: we have every right to do that. You do not

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Speaker 3: have a right to then shoot folks in the water.

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Speaker 3: But I will guarantee you that there is no legal

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Speaker 3: opinion in the file in the Defense Department. If they

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Speaker 3: subpoena and I did oversight for five years with Gingridge,

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Speaker 3: there is not going to be a legal opinion it

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Speaker 3: says you can finish off people.

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Speaker 5: In the water.

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Speaker 3: It will say just what I said here, and that

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Speaker 3: is what they're doing. And so it is completely lawful,

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Speaker 3: and it's protecting the national security of the United States

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Speaker 3: and every single American, including in states like Maine where

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Speaker 3: we had ten thousand overdoses last year.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a perfect argument why isn't the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: making that argument right now?

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing that as much as I'm a lawyer, I

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Speaker 3: hate lawyers. You know, if you're Irish, you get to

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Speaker 3: say words about the Irish, and I am that too.

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Speaker 3: If you're a lawyer, you get to hate lawyers. There's

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Speaker 3: lawyers in the Pentagon going, hey, we can't release that.

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Speaker 3: That's a legal document. Hey, we've got to back off.

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Speaker 4: We can't.

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Speaker 3: We can't get the legal argument involved in politics.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. What what I think Hegg says should do is

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Speaker 4: just say, look, I have every legal right to be

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Speaker 4: doing what I'm doing.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what I'm Hegseth is not we know him,

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Speaker 1: he's not an attorney. But what I'm saying is I

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Speaker 1: would if I were Secretary of War heg Seth or

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Speaker 1: I was advising him, I would be telling him to

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Speaker 1: say exactly what you just told us right now at

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Speaker 1: the press conference, because I think it would end this

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Speaker 1: so now they have the back and forth of different

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Speaker 1: versions of what happened and what was this and what

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Speaker 1: was that?

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Speaker 4: Why?

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Speaker 2: Sir, that's Mike we're all Bobby, why wouldn't he make

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Speaker 2: that case?

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Speaker 1: Well, because they screwed up, because they've screwed up the comps,

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Speaker 1: just like they screwed up the I mean, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: jump in and just say because they messed up, because

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Speaker 1: this is where we are right now, just like they did.

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Speaker 3: You know, the truth is, your point is well taken.

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Speaker 3: You take the world as it is. What has transpired

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Speaker 3: up to this moment in time. Has the future is

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Speaker 3: for us to define. They should do the press conference.

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Speaker 3: Take it verbatim what I said, that's the truth. I

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Speaker 3: don't know the exact wording of the legal memo, but

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Speaker 3: I guarantee before they took one shot there is a

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Speaker 3: legal memo there. They should release it. They should say,

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Speaker 3: we have every right to have done what we did.

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Speaker 3: Let's clarify the record and the facts of the facts.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think we're all aligned on this.

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Speaker 1: I just want to be clear, Bobby, because there are

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Speaker 1: people out there who are saying, oh no, When I

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Speaker 1: say people, I mean online. You'll see people who don't

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Speaker 1: know anything who are saying the clinging to the wreckage,

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Speaker 1: we could mow them down to No, that's not true.

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Speaker 1: But what you've laid out is the legal justification for

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Speaker 1: what we believe happened here, which we're all aligned with.

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Speaker 1: But I just want to be very clear, because I

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Speaker 1: have seen the argument made by people with followings and

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Speaker 1: buy people who are part of this conversation. If we

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Speaker 1: have to finish off people in the water, so be it. No,

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Speaker 1: that's actually not that's actually not how this goes, and

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Speaker 1: that's not what was going on here.

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, and in World War Two there were

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Speaker 3: bad mistakes made on both sides. This is one where

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Speaker 3: we don't have to make a mistake.

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Speaker 4: That would be a mistake. We're not going to do it.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you though, as a guy running

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Speaker 3: for governor in Maine, and I'm up by double digits

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Speaker 3: on everybody. But the reality is right now, people throw

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Speaker 3: crap at you that is untrue every day and you

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Speaker 3: just have to keep responding. And that's what hegseth I

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Speaker 3: suspect will do and that's what Trump does every day.

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Speaker 3: And that's what you got to do. You beat you know,

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Speaker 3: it's like the old Supreme Court case said, right, you

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Speaker 3: beat bad.

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Speaker 4: Speech with good speech.

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Speaker 1: You just keep going, Bobby, We're leveraging your expertise here

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Speaker 1: a lot. But I actually want to transition you because

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Speaker 1: you said you transition the topic.

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Speaker 2: I should. I should. Yeah, I'm going to transition the topic.

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Speaker 7: Dude.

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Speaker 1: Hey, gotta be clear these days to you said you

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Speaker 1: oversaw or involved in overseeing narco programs in the Caribbean. One,

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Speaker 1: how effective you think taking out these boats is actually?

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Speaker 1: And two talk to us about Venezuela. You would have

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Speaker 1: a very important perspective on what's going on there with Maduro,

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Speaker 1: the narco trafficking, the possibility of the overthrow. Talk us

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Speaker 1: through some of that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I have had multiple hats in life. Blessed

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Speaker 3: a thousand ways from Sunday. But the reality is, yes,

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Speaker 3: I did oversight for five years for Gangrich.

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Speaker 4: I was his top.

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Speaker 3: Oversight investigator looking at counter narcotics, but also the Pentagon

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Speaker 3: Justice I.

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Speaker 4: Did to Waco hearings all that.

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Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, our counternarcotics policy

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Speaker 3: in the Caribbean was effective when we could create twenty

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Speaker 3: five percent deterrence, So when we could cover twenty five

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Speaker 3: five percent, creating enough uncertainty that the traffickers thought they

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Speaker 3: would get more losses than it was worth. They shifted to.

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Speaker 4: The land bridge. What they will do right now.

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Speaker 3: It is relatively effective because it's creating that one thing

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Speaker 3: we know again, let's go back to World War two.

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Speaker 3: Everything is about deterrence versus appeasement. You do nothing, you

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Speaker 3: appease it. Same thing with people coming into this country.

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Speaker 3: You do nothing. You appease the behavior. Appease bad behavior,

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Speaker 3: you deter it. All of a sudden, they're going to

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Speaker 3: shipp drugs through the EPACH Eastern Pacific, which is where

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Speaker 3: some of the this is happening, or through the Caribbean.

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Speaker 4: And so deterrence works. It absolutely works.

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Speaker 3: But you always have to remember it's like trying to

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Speaker 2: Is that guy still there? You can pull him up,

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Speaker 2: all right, Doug in San Diego, light us up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Clay, Hey, you know that the vote was using

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Speaker 1: And we will say so, I don't really understand your argument.

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Speaker 2: Your you think?

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Speaker 5: I don't want to go that far, but I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: buck Sexton show. Sounds like Buck Island may have been

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Speaker 1: Look, you can make that argument, but that doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: in the water, you wouldn't have an issue with that.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't have an issue with that at all. After

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Speaker 8: letting in twenty million illegals.

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Speaker 1: I have appreciate is that your granddaughter in the background.

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Speaker 8: There no, no, no, I've got three dogs that are

442
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Speaker 8: laying on.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so I those dogs don't mess around. Those

444
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Speaker 1: are well behaved dogs.

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Speaker 2: Get around.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Linda, Linda is running into her

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Speaker 1: up with a with a browbie. Thank you for the

448
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Speaker 1: call there. Look, that would be a crime. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that if I had given the order, I

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Speaker 1: want Linda on my jury because I appreciate that she

451
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Speaker 1: is the Nathan Jess up there she.

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Speaker 2: Is. You're damn right.

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Speaker 1: I ordered the code ed, So thank you Linda for

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Speaker 1: that call. That would be illegal, That would be a violation,

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Speaker 1: That would be a war crime. So I don't think

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Speaker 1: if there were American soldiers floating around in the waters

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Speaker 1: off the shore of a foreign country and they ordered

458
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Speaker 1: for the American soldiers to be summarily executed or American citizens,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would say, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: have an issue with that, and it would be illegal.

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Speaker 1: That to me is not what occurred here. However, yes,

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Speaker 1: it would be a war crime. In fact, it actually

463
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Speaker 1: would be there. There is even with really bad people,

464
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Speaker 1: and even if Trump is in charge, we do need

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Speaker 1: to understand there is such a thing as a war crime.

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Speaker 1: We are saying one was not committed here because they

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Speaker 1: did not do anything wrong based on the facts. But

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Speaker 1: to my point, Clay, that I keep making of, people

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Speaker 1: need understand. We just had a caller who was like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, if we have the machine gun them in

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Speaker 1: the water, no big deal.

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Speaker 2: No, that's not good. We don't do that.

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Speaker 3: Jury.

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Speaker 1: If I'm Colonel Jessup, I will say that is a

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Speaker 1: war crime. And for people out there who say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is not a big story, they are. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the lead story right now on MSNBC and CNN is

478
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Speaker 1: about the boat strikes. Now, I think the communication here

479
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Speaker 1: we should also mention the cabinet meeting live on Fox

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Speaker 1: News has been going on now Buck for nearly two hours,

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Speaker 1: so our entire show. Trump has been allowing his cabinet

482
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Speaker 1: members to field questions from everybody out there.

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Speaker 2: Joe and Florida.

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Speaker 1: Retired Air Force colonel fighter pilot, what's your take on

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Speaker 1: the story so far as you can tell?

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Speaker 9: Hi, Well, first of all, I heard a previous callers say,

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Speaker 9: undeclared war, but we've been fighting the quote, Well, we've

488
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Speaker 9: not been fighting, but we've been participating in the quote

489
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Speaker 9: war on drugs for fifty years or so. Yeah, you know,

490
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Speaker 9: I came back from Vietnam. I flew one hundred and

491
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Speaker 9: fifty three combat missions over there in Tantoms, came back

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Speaker 9: to Homestead Air Base, and then we would sit on

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Speaker 9: the air defense of alert pad and intercept drug airplanes

494
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Speaker 9: that were flying into our territory, many of which were

495
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Speaker 9: actually over the Everglades, over our dirt throwing out at

496
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Speaker 9: that time bales of marijuana, and we would try to

497
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Speaker 9: get the tail number of the airplane to identify them.

498
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Speaker 9: Sometimes these same guys would just fly in daytime and

499
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Speaker 9: that made it easy to identify the tail number, but

500
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Speaker 9: generally they would get rid of that airplane and move

501
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Speaker 9: on to something else that over time that progressed to

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Speaker 9: I was a F sixteen count operational test pilot where

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Speaker 9: I worked on the program to outfit the airplanes with

504
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Speaker 9: night vision goggles, and then we could join on these

505
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Speaker 9: guys at night, look at the guy, look at the load,

506
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Speaker 9: look at the airplane's tail number, hand them off to customs,

507
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Speaker 9: and that air bridge where they would fly drugs into

508
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Speaker 9: the country basically was reduced. I can't say shut down,

509
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Speaker 9: but it was greatly reduced.

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Speaker 1: And then let me ask you this, Colonel and thank

511
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Speaker 1: you for all the work that you did in the

512
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Speaker 1: Air force. What would have happened if you had you know,

513
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Speaker 1: if you had ordered you shoot down one of those planes.

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Speaker 1: There are guys floating hanging on to the refuge of

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Speaker 1: the plane, and you said, we're gonna go by for

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Speaker 1: another pass. We want to machine gun those guys in

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Speaker 1: the water holding on to the holding on to the refuse.

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Speaker 9: Well, if I shut them down, I would do it

519
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Speaker 9: in such a way there'd be no survivors.

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Speaker 1: That's a great answer. But if and and by the way, uh,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that answer. But if there were and you

522
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Speaker 1: said we're gonna go by, and I want you to

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Speaker 1: lean out my tailgunner here or whoever's with you, and

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Speaker 1: I want you to pick off those survivors. And it

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Speaker 1: later came out that you had done that. Do you

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Speaker 1: think you would have had the ability to make that

527
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Speaker 1: decision legally?

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Speaker 9: You know, I would like it. Let me put on

529
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Speaker 9: my kernel sat now I was about to have the

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Speaker 9: survivors from an intel standpoint, Yeah, in fact, talking guys

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Speaker 9: about why are you still doing this? What are they

532
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Speaker 9: doing to motivate you to go out and risk your lives?

533
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Speaker 9: Because you know you're stand a good chance of dying.

534
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Speaker 9: I'm not a Navy guy. I'm an Air Force guy,

535
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Speaker 9: but I'm a top gun graduate. So I do want

536
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Speaker 9: to make the bad guys go away and pay for

537
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Speaker 9: their crimes. You know, in Vietnam, I had a guy

538
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Speaker 9: on the Mekong River shoot at me as I flew

539
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Speaker 9: by him, and so I went back and he and

540
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Speaker 9: I discussed the merits of twenty milimeters versus a K

541
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Speaker 9: forty seven, and he was not a happy camper.

542
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

543
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Speaker 9: As far as the Navy rules of engagement and the

544
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Speaker 9: international rules, I hate to admit it, I'm pretty much

545
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Speaker 9: clueless on that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, and thank you for all

547
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Speaker 1: the service, and I love that the number of people

548
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Speaker 1: we have listening to the best call. The callers are awesome,

549
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: can be top gun pilots who flew and Look, I'd

550
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Speaker 1: like to have Linda on my jury in this situation,

551
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Speaker 1: but you have to make the story.

552
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Speaker 2: Look, here's what I think is if you want me

553
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Speaker 2: to say, I appreciate what Linda is saying.

554
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Speaker 1: Linda wants to go full Genghis Khan on the enemies

555
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Speaker 1: of civilization, and I get that. But the challenges is

556
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Speaker 1: not is not a crazy cat lady For Kamala Harris,

557
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Speaker 1: I feel very competent. I would like Linda in my

558
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Speaker 1: foxhole with me. Let me say this. I think really

559
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Speaker 1: what this represents. I love the call where he said, hey,

560
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to leave any survivors.

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Speaker 3: Right.

562
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Speaker 1: They don't want to have to rescue these guys because

563
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Speaker 1: if they rescue them and bring them in as combatants,

564
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Speaker 1: they can challenge the policy in court. And I think

565
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Speaker 1: by the way, I think they go to it. Do

566
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: they go to GIDMO? Where do they go?

567
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: It's a great question. Where do we put them? That's right,

568
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: I think may be the answer.

569
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Speaker 1: Although you know, we've been trying to shut GITMO down,

570
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Speaker 1: but we can't shut it down because that's war on

571
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: terror stuff. Look, we can't even execute the nine to

572
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Speaker 1: eleven terrorists.

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Speaker 2: You know, they still you know this.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about it with some They haven't even been

575
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Speaker 1: able to prosecute the guys who were in GITMO because

576
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Speaker 1: they're worried about the interrogation tactics that were used on them,

577
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Speaker 1: such that I don't even know what the absolute latest

578
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: on that story was, but it was, hey, we're not

579
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Speaker 1: going to go for the death penalty. They're gonna admit

580
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: complicity in all of the deaths. It's been twenty four,

581
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: twenty four years since nine to eleven, and those guys

582
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: are still living in relative comfort now in Cuba and

583
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: we can't even prosecute them. So I guarantee you they

584
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: do not want to have these guys in possession for

585
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Speaker 1: the next twenty years. So when they said again they

586
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Speaker 1: should do a better job of communicating on this, But

587
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Speaker 1: when they said finish them off, they meant the boat.

588
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: That's the legal argument, and they wanted to make sure

589
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Speaker 1: that the boat was not able to continue its mission

590
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Speaker 1: to deliver drugs to the country. By the way, a

591
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Speaker 1: lot of great calls already on this, and we'll continue

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Speaker 1: to take your calls.

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Speaker 1: dive into It's gonna be very very exciting, very interesting

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Speaker 1: so much for that. I'm just going to say that

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Speaker 1: With this audience alone, it's pretty amazing. I mean, we'd

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Speaker 1: by this audience no.

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Speaker 2: Matter what we do. Sometimes you gotta sometimes you gotta

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Speaker 2: smoke the drug lords. And that's that.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, who is perfect called the dogs sitting

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Speaker 1: takes a drag, takes a drag on this cigarette. Waste them,

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Speaker 1: rubs the dogs. No retreat, no surrender from Linda. I like,

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Speaker 1: don't be a pussy Willow, take them out. Let's get

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Speaker 1: a Derek and Phoenix, Arizona listens on this is an

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Speaker 1: ff on talkback.

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Speaker 2: Hit It, hit It, This is a Derek got a buckey.

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Speaker 6: I served ten and a half years in the Marine

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Speaker 6: Corps and I'm sorry, but the rules of war do

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Speaker 6: not apply to non uniform people. Only applies to uniforms

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Speaker 6: that are by the country, i e. If it was

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Speaker 6: a Venezuhalen soldier in that in that boat, then.

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Speaker 4: Rules of war apply.

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Speaker 5: So sorry, I don't agree with that.

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Speaker 1: I think he's wrong, He's wrong, unfortunately. I mean, here's

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Speaker 1: that put it in perspective. You can't kill civilians if

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Speaker 1: threat to you, whether I mean, wasn't this the whole

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Speaker 1: my my lie, the whole massacre in Vietnam was basically

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Speaker 1: they just wiped out the whole village. And this is

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Speaker 1: why war crimes probably are going to be brought in

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Speaker 1: many of the actions that Russia has undertaken in Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Let's take let's take Matt in Arizona with a live

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Speaker 2: call here, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Matt?

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Speaker 4: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Hey, I just

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Speaker 4: had a different perspective. I wanted to throw out there

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Speaker 4: the left who's good at you know, smoking mirrors, and

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Speaker 4: they're kind of slimy deceptive. We all know that. What

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Speaker 4: if they're just accusing Pete hag Seth of something that,

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Speaker 4: whether it's true or not, I don't think any of

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Speaker 4: us think it's true. I don't even think they think

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Speaker 4: it's true. You know that that he's committed war crimes.

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Speaker 2: The the goal?

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Speaker 4: What if their goal is to delegitimize Pete haig Seth.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's the I mean, sorry, thank you for the call.

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Speaker 1: The entire goal is to delegitimize Pete Haggs. Yes, that

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Speaker 1: that that is the that is.

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Speaker 2: The heart of the enemy's plan here.

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Speaker 1: I don't need the secondary analysis so that when he

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Speaker 1: does X, yes, the goal is to completely delegitimize Pete

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Speaker 1: hegg Seth. And again the phrase finished them off. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they are trying to argue was a direct order by

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Speaker 1: the admiral to kill the guys. Again, I think we

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Speaker 1: hit on this, and I hope the White House is listening,

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Speaker 1: and certainly I think they could help themselves by specifically

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Speaker 1: explaining that finished them off meant in the boats ability

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Speaker 1: to interdict, to bring drugs into the country or for

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Speaker 1: someone else to come to pick up the drugs from

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Speaker 1: the boat. Right, They had to completely wipe it out.

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Speaker 1: We got a ton of emails, a ton of your calls.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to all those, plus Senator Marsha Blackburn I

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Speaker 1: think is with us in the third hour.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk with her too,