1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off. Now give you 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: a little roadmap to where we're going here. Corey Lewindowski 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: seen your campaign official for Trump twenty twenty four. It's 4 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: going to be with this bottom of this hour and 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: next hour Bernie Marino, who is running for Senate in Ohio. Look, 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: Ohio is good for the Republicans, I think on the 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: presidential side, but it's going to be a tight senate race. 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 2: You know. 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: You always got to remember we should start to call 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: it the it's the Basher effect, Clay, where even in 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: a very red state you can have very very blue 12 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: sadness happened. 13 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: You know. 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: The governor of Kentucky, which is a very red state, 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: is a Democrat. You could have a Democrat senator in 16 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: Ohio unless Bernie Marino comes out on top, and I 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: think I think you will. We'll talk to him. Third hours, 18 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: just lett. You know, we got two great guests. Also, 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: if you're a VIP for example, and you want to 20 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: get a question to us about what you want to 21 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: know about the Trump twenty twenty four campaign, we got 22 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: Corey Lewandowski. He was with Trump going way back to 23 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, as you know, working on the campaign, so 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: we can get him some good questions about ground game turnout, 25 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, door knocking, opo ads, you name it, right, 26 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean the real nuts and bolts of how you win. 27 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: And that's really what the focus has to be right now. 28 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: So we will get into all of that. But Clay, 29 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: I'd mentioned this before, just because you know, we we 30 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: should have our buddy Vivak back on the show sometime soon. 31 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be with him tomorrow in La, Buck, I'll 32 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: get him on with us. Why don't you tell him 33 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: to come hang out? Tell him to tell him to 34 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: come hang out. He's got to come on the show. 35 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: Maybe I get him on the show tomorrow. 36 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,639 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna be in La with him all day tomorrow, 37 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: So let's see how it goes. 38 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: And so I think that, by the way, it's funny, 39 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: you know how Kamala Harris every always says she's like 40 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: she's like the person who's trying to extend the word 41 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: limit of what she's writing about the book report without 42 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: having read the book. I want to see if we 43 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: could get Viveke like we should just ask Vivic random 44 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: questions to which it's not even feasible that he could 45 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: know the answer and see how good his answers would, 46 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: because I think they'd be very good. Like Vivike, you 47 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: don't speak hieroglyphics or you know, you don't speak ancient Greek, 48 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: but what do you think about ancient Greek in the 49 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: falling context? Anyway, Vic's obviously very skilled orator, and that 50 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: was on display here in this In this exchange with CNN, 51 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: you had one of their anchors. I don't really know 52 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: much about their anchors these days. They're pretty you know 53 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm not the only one, right, So 54 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: don't they're not in airports anymore? 55 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: Right? 56 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: They that deal CNN used to pay to be in 57 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: the airports. I check that out right, They used to 58 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: pay the airports to carry the programming and nobody want 59 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: to watch. I don't know if they're still doing this 60 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: or not, but I think that deal went away. Anyway, 61 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: Here is one of their anchors. And this is critical 62 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: because this goes to the heart of the whole demokrat 63 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: you know magic show right now, which is you know, 64 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: look here, but don't look here, like they're making things 65 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: appear out of nowhere or disappear. In the case of 66 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: Kamala's record, and they took them to task on this. 67 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: Listen to what he had to say. 68 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 4: You brought up some claims about Kamala Harris. I want 69 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 4: to finish that discussion. She said she didn't favor a 70 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: ban on fracking. Now, the reality is she was one 71 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 4: of the strongest proponents of that ban, so much so 72 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: that when she was in California she sued the Obama 73 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: administration over granting fracking permits. She didn't just favor the 74 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: abolition of private health insurance. She was a co sponsor 75 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: of the bill with Bernie Sanders as a US Senator 76 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: for Medicare for All for America. The reality is, when 77 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: you think about the Green New Deal, she was the 78 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 4: chief proponent, not just as a co sponsor of the legislation, 79 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: but going further and saying she would end the filibuster 80 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 4: in the Senate to ram that through. So the reality 81 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: is she can say what she wants to say. Now, 82 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 4: those are actions she has taken. Is someone allowed to evolve, 83 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 4: Of course they are, But she deserves to explain exactly 84 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: why she's changed those positions, exactly what her position is. 85 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 4: If it's not a ban on fracking, what exactly is it? 86 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: What exactly is. 87 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: Her healthcare plan if she no longer favors abolishing private 88 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 4: health insurance, which just four short years ago when she 89 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: ran for president, she did. And that's the kind of 90 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 4: scrutiny that's been missing. I think Donald Trump has received 91 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 4: plenty of scrutiny, and I give credit to him for 92 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 4: sitting for hostile interviews that Kamala Harris has not. 93 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: Okay, the latter part of it. We know she's not 94 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: going to explain it because there is no explanation. I 95 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: think Clay what's critical and Viveig pointed this out and 96 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: eloquently laid this out on CNN. You can tell the 97 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: anchors like, gosh darn it, which one of my producers 98 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: booked this guy, this is a bad idea, although it 99 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: is getting them some attention, so that CNN's got that 100 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 1: going for it. Clay, Kamala wasn't just another Democrat senator 101 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: or Democrat candidate for the presidency. Kamala Harris was far left. 102 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: She was on some of the most hardcore left wing 103 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: policies are the Democrat Party. She was in the vanguard. 104 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: I mean, this is essentially like if Bernie Sanders all 105 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden showed up and he's like, you know what, 106 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm a centrist. Everything that I used to say, I 107 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: don't believe it anymore. 108 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 3: That's great, Bernie Sanders. I give credit to Viveike because, 109 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 3: as you mentioned, this is on CNN and we're now 110 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: into the persuadable voter part of the twenty twenty four 111 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 3: election cycle. We're sixty two days out. There are five 112 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 3: to ten percent of voters out there that may not 113 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: have made up their minds because they've been paying little attention, 114 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: because they got kids or grandkids, and they're running around 115 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: on a day to day basis, and they have their 116 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 3: life going on and they aren't obsessed with the TikTok 117 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: of daily political debate. But here on CNN and on MSNBC, 118 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: you have an opportunity to make arguments. And I would 119 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: say this, whatever you think about Viveke and jd Vance, 120 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: they are TV thoroughbreds. They can show up and handle 121 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 3: a question, knock it back out of the park. In response, 122 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 3: who do you think honestly? Buck on the Democrat side 123 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: is actually a debate thoroughbred where when they get a question, 124 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: you may not agree with them, but you say, man, 125 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: that is an absolute clinic. I don't know they have any, 126 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 3: And I think the answer is because they are so 127 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: used to living in a world where the media carries 128 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 3: the water for them that it makes them that makes 129 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: their argument weak and unrefined. And I think you saw 130 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 3: that with DeSantis versus Newsome, when they actually got a 131 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 3: little bit of pushback, he had no idea how to 132 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: deal with facts. 133 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: Well, you see this at a different level, but it's 134 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: the exact same phenomenon you're talking about with college Republicans 135 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: versus the college leftists democrats running around. They are so 136 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: used to the consensus of their left wing ideas on 137 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: campuses that when these you know, young men and women. 138 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: We always say kids, but they're young men and women 139 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: are confronted with serious arguments from the other side, they 140 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: get emotional and they melt and they snowflake and they 141 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: freak out and all that. Right, Whereas college Republicans, because 142 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: the professors and most of the kids around you, they've 143 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: been it's like they've been in in you know, fight 144 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: club the whole time, and people want to throw a 145 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: punch with them. They're ready to go the other side. 146 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: They're not used to it at all. And maybe we 147 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: in this fight club wear boat shoes and blue blazers 148 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: with brass buttons, but we still, as college Republicans, know 149 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: how to throw a punch. I was at GW today, 150 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: George Washington University, speaking and I got a question in 151 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: the audience buck, and it was how do you deal 152 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: with misinformation and disinformation in the political arena? And I 153 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: think the guy was stunned with my answer. I said, well, 154 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: you have more speed. 155 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: So the cure for. 156 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: Lies and for deceitful speech is not trying to have 157 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: somebody out there with a magic wand saying we've got 158 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: to censor this, We've got to take this out. It's 159 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 3: to allow a more full throated debate. And I think 160 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: Republicans are used to it, or at least like you 161 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 3: and I. I would bet this quite strongly. If CNN 162 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: had us on and they said, hey, can you argue 163 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: the leftist perspective? I think you and I could argue 164 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: the left wing perspective better than most left wingers, because 165 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 3: in order to make right wing arguments or centrist arguments, 166 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 3: you have to understand the whole scope of argument. And 167 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: I don't think most Democrats do because they are so 168 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: out of touch with what Republicans are saying, whereas I 169 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: think republicans know very much what democrats are saying. The 170 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: exposure to arguments is much stronger on the right than 171 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: it is to the left. Oh, I could do a podcast, 172 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: you know, I could dye a patch of my hair 173 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 3: purple and get a nose ring or three, and I 174 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: could do a podcast as a leftist tomorrow, and as 175 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: long as I could disguise my voice, no one would 176 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: have any idea was to put on I know exactly 177 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: what they think. 178 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: Right. 179 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: That's another difference about about left and right, And this 180 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: is there's been some pretty look, most sociology is just 181 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: the advancement of left wing ideology through the pseudo lens 182 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: of science or the lens of a pseudoscience. But there 183 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: has been some research to show this that when we 184 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: say this is what I think democrats think, not just 185 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: you and me meeting clay and but anyone on the 186 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: right has a much better idea of the left wing argument. 187 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: I mean, for example, the left wing argument, and you'll 188 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: see this all the time on abortion is always just 189 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: about they just say, you know, why do you want 190 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: to control our bodies? And they never even address because 191 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: they believe the right or the pro life position is 192 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: there's another body, there's a little baby, there's a little body. 193 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: They don't even address that. It's always just why do 194 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: you want to control our bodies? I mean they're saying 195 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: that Trump, the guy who was like the owner of 196 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: the Miss Universe competition, is going to force women into 197 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: Burkah's or or you know whatever it is from that 198 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: Handhandmaid's Tale. Yeah, this is it. Yeah, the burke is 199 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: obviously a Taliban thing. But I'm saying, like this is 200 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: this is insane. But I do think the conservatives have 201 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: a better understanding of what the other side believes. I 202 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: also think that the uh and this was a Christopher 203 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: Hitchins argument, who's now departed, was good on some things 204 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: and bad. He's kind of like rfkage you and you're 205 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: very good on some things, wrong on others. But he 206 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: would say that Clay, it's not just about your point 207 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: about the censorship and shutting down. It's not just that 208 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 1: you need to hear the right argument, which is the 209 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: the the answer that you get from so many of 210 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: the disinformation experts, and they all say that their voice 211 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: has to go up a few octaves. Disinformation Russia collusion. 212 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: It's that you need to hear the wrong argument too, 213 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: because then you can actually understand what the formulation is 214 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: for the other side and know that the right argument 215 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: is right. You can't actually know what the truth is 216 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: if you are never exposed to what is not true 217 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: in political argument, in political debate, you know what I mean, 218 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: That's another part of it. 219 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 3: And also it allows you to know what the counter 220 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: punch is. No successful argument or debate can just be 221 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 3: you throwing punches. And a lot of people I talk 222 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 3: to this about the people we hire it out kick Hey, 223 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: you're going to write opinion pieces everything else. When you 224 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: write your opinion piece, make sure that you are aware 225 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: of what the two or three best counter punches are 226 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: to whatever your argument is. In an ideal world, you 227 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 3: address them in the context of your argument and dismiss them, 228 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: but at least be aware of it. And I think 229 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 3: what social media created, particularly on the left buck is 230 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: they don't actually consider when you throw a punch and look, 231 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 3: I box three days a week. I loved box. I 232 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: don't get punched, Thankfully, I got too much out of 233 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: my head. I gotta make sure that it still works. 234 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 3: But a huge part of training to box is not 235 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: just thinking about what you're doing on your initial punch. 236 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 3: It's that you have to contemplate the CounterPunch. And if 237 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 3: you watch boxing, people generally get knocked out, not because 238 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: they have not punched enough or something like that, it's 239 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 3: because when you punch, you open yourself up to a 240 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: devastating counter attack. And I don't think Democrats because they're 241 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 3: being protected by the media. They basically have officials jumping 242 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: in and trying to stop them from ever having to 243 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: take the consequences of their CounterPunch. Their ideas are flabby, 244 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: they're not in shape. And if Trump is disciplined in 245 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 3: six days, I think Kamala is going to leave herself 246 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: open to one devastating CounterPunch after another in that debate 247 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: because she's taken every side of every perspective. Now, I'm 248 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: not sure that Trump will be disciplined enough to kind 249 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 3: of weigh back. Trump is more of a puncher than 250 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: a counterpuncher, but you often win debates with counterpunches, not 251 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 3: with punches, and that to me is where Kamala and 252 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: many Democrats are wide open in this perspective. 253 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: I think she's also going to try to if she's 254 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: if she has any real skill or attacked up there, 255 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: which I'm not sure she will, but she's going to 256 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: try to get, you know, under Trump's skin and gone 257 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: off the handle on something that's the best. She's not 258 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: going to expose Trump on policy, because he's right on policy. 259 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: It's it's not about oh, when you know this thing 260 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: about Trump, then you're gonna it's she's going to try 261 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: to use. I should say, her only strategy to victor 262 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: true victory is she goes after Trump and tries to 263 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: bait him personally and get him to to flip out 264 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: up there. 265 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: We can't have bad Trump that showed up for the 266 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: first debate against Joe Biden. Trump the worst debate performance 267 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 3: of Joe of Donald Trump's career, in my opinion, was 268 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 3: the first debate against Joe Biden in twenty twenty. If 269 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: he had had the same debate performance in the second debate, 270 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: I think Trump, even with all the rig job, would 271 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 3: have won. I think he lost a lot of people 272 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 3: with that first debate. He just needs to keep it 273 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 3: between the lines, don't perform poorly. 274 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: He was excellent against Biden too. I know people can say, oh, 275 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: but you know it was so easy. No, he made 276 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: the right decision, which was let everyone see Biden. 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Find them on 312 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 5: the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 313 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,359 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show Buck Tomorrow, 314 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: the NFL returns, And right before we went on the air, 315 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: Donald Trump posted on truth Social I don't know that 316 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 3: we've talked about this, but let me read what he said. 317 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 3: I want to thank beautiful Brittany Mahomes for so strongly 318 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 3: defending me. Uh, it's nice. And then he talks about 319 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: how Biden is a disaster, and then he says, it's 320 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 3: nice to see someone who loves our country and wants 321 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 3: to save it from doom. What a great couple. See 322 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: you both at the super Bowl. Brittany Mahomes married to 323 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes. I don't know that we've talked about this, Buck, 324 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 3: but Patrick Mahomes's Kansas City Chiefs are going to play 325 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 3: tomorrow night against Lamar Jackson's Baltimore Ravens. Brittany Mahomes has 326 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 3: been liking Donald Trump posts on Instagram, getting attacked for 327 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: it and saying that she's not going to apologize for it. 328 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 3: And now Trump has thanked Brittany Mahomes for liking him, 329 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 3: saying that he will see them at the super Bowl. 330 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: This is intriguing. I would just toss this out. 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If you love America. 355 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Clay and Cory Lewandowski is with us 356 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: from twenty twenty four, senior campaign official, a veteran of 357 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: the Trump Wars politically speaking, Good to have you back, Corey. 358 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: Thanks for being on the show. 359 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's a pleasure. Thank you for having me. 360 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: Look, let's get let's just give you the ball that 361 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: you're run with it here you have the connectivity and 362 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: the perspective to see how it's looking for Trump in 363 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: a way that everybody wants to hear. I mean, we 364 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: can just sort of start by honing in on some 365 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: of the battolet ground states. How's the campaign, how's the 366 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: ground game? How are we looking? 367 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 2: Let me give your listeners some historical perspective of this, 368 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: and I'll just go back four years of where the 369 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 2: campaign was on this day in twenty twenty on the 370 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 2: Real Clear Politics average. In twenty twenty, we were down 371 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 2: seven points to Joe Biden. Today Rasmusen has us up 372 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: four points. But let's go to the big states, the 373 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: states that are going to matter, where this election is 374 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: going to be decided first and foremost in Arizona. On 375 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: this day four years ago, we were down five points 376 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: of Joe Biden. Today, according to Real Clear Politics, we're 377 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 2: up five point five for a net swing of ten 378 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: and a half points. When you look at where we 379 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: are in the battleground state of Michigan four years ago, 380 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 2: down three point three to Biden, today we're up two 381 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: point two for a net swing of five point five. 382 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: And then let me just go down to Pennsylvania. We 383 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: were down three to six. We're now up three to 384 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 2: one for a net swing of six point seven. And lastly, Wisconsin, 385 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: Wisconsin today, four years ago we were down four point 386 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: four points. Today we're up three point zero and the 387 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 2: Real Claire average for a net of seven point four 388 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 2: point swing. All of that is to say we are 389 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: in the strongest position Donald Trump has ever been in 390 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: his life to seek this reelection and have victory in November. 391 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely no question. 392 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 3: Corey Kamala Harris's campaigning in New Hampshire today, I told 393 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 3: our audience we started the show, look at where Kamala 394 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 3: is going. 395 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: It will tell you how she sees the race. 396 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: Is it to you a sign of nerve br business 397 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 3: that Kamala is in New Hampshire and in Virginia, two 398 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 3: states that Biden won comfortably in twenty twenty one. New 399 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 3: Hampshire by seventy won Virginia by ten. Doesn't that kind 400 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 3: of indicate to all of us what her internal polling 401 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: is showing. 402 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 2: Oh, it absolutely does. Look you know, we've got public 403 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 2: polling that shows that the state of Virginia is a 404 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: three point race. Right now, We've got public polling that 405 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 2: shows that New Hampshire is dead. Even she is afraid 406 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 2: because if she loses the four electoral votes in New 407 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: Hampshire and the electoral votes in Virginia, she has no path. 408 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 2: Where is Donald Trump recently and where is he today? Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nevada, Arizona, 409 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 2: North Carolina, Rinse and repeat why, because that's where this 410 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: race is going to be won and lost. When you 411 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: look at the battleground states and my home state of 412 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: New Hampshire, we're going to continue to have people on 413 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 2: the ground there a strong presence. I will always advocate 414 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: for the President to go up and see those people. 415 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 2: But Kamalawa Harris, her first campaign stops of this election 416 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: cycle are in a state like New Hampshire. It tells 417 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: you everything you need to know that she is so 418 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 2: concerned that she's going to lose that state that she's 419 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: putting her first campaign stops there, and look, I think 420 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 2: it's very possible she does lose. Donald Trump lost the 421 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 2: state of New Hampshire in twenty sixteen by about two 422 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: seven hundred votes. And now the people know what's at stake, 423 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: and they know that his record will bring them economic prosperity, 424 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,919 Speaker 2: shafety and security, and an opportunity for everybody in that 425 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: granted state to have a better future. 426 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: Speaking of Corey Lewandowski, senior campaign advisor for Trump twenty 427 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: twenty four, Corey, to that end, on the economic side 428 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 1: of things, what is the primary messaging that the campaign 429 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: has running in these particularly in the swing states, on 430 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: what the Trump economy would do? And also, how is 431 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: the Trump campaign defining the Kamala economy? Because I don't 432 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: think that the Kamala campaign knows really, But so how's 433 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: that going? 434 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: Well, it's very simple, right, Donald Trump has a record 435 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: while he was in office of passing the largest tax 436 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 2: cut in American history. And what's amazing and your listener 437 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 2: should be aware of this is Donald Trump and Kamala 438 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: Harris have actually never met. And the reason for that 439 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: is because she was so ineffective as a US senator 440 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: that she wasn't part of any of these bipartisan negotiations 441 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 2: to help provide economic relief to the American people. So 442 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: where are we right now? We know that the you 443 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 2: know what they used to call bidnomics, she's walking away from. 444 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 2: She's no longer supporting that because of the devastation has 445 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: entailed and told on the American families. It doesn't matter 446 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: if you are rich or poor, black or white, green 447 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 2: or blue, it doesn't matter. You are feeling the crunch 448 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 2: of the Biden Harris Walls administration, which is more money 449 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: to put food on your plate, is more money to 450 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 2: put gas in your car, is more money to make 451 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 2: sure your kids have the school supplies that they need 452 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: to go back to school. And people are tired of 453 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: it because it's unsustainable. 454 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: Corey, when you look at the larger landscape of this race, 455 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 3: it seems to me the easiest path for Trump winning 456 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 3: is North Carolina, Georgia, Pennsylvania. Now there's a lot of 457 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 3: other states we just mentioned New Hampshire, Virginia, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, Arizona. 458 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 3: There's a lot of states in play out there, But 459 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 3: when you look at the map, is that the pathway 460 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 3: of Hey, we win North Carolina, we win Georgia, we 461 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 3: win Pennsylvania, those three states, and it's done. Is that 462 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: part of the way You're thinking, how would you assess 463 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: the map here as we sit sixty two days out? 464 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: Well, look, I think North Carolina's a state that's been 465 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: very good to us over the last two cycles. Georgia, 466 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: you know, is a state that we have clearly an 467 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: opportunity to be successful there. Historically speaking, they've a number 468 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 2: of Republicans who've been elected down there and has been 469 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: a state that's been good to us. That being said, 470 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: Pennsylvania is always the Great White Whale, and until Donald 471 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 2: Trump won it in twenty sixteen, Republicans always thought they 472 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 2: could win it, but they could never pull it off. 473 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: But his message is particularly when he juxtaposed that to 474 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 2: Kamala's message of fracking, is what Donald Trump supports, she 475 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 2: opposes it. You know, we have seen what outsourcing jobs 476 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: has done to the state of Pennsylvania. We've seen what 477 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: the outsourcing of manufacturing has done. So Pennsylvania is a 478 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 2: battleground state, for sure. But look what we've been able 479 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: to do in Michigan. Look what the auto workers have 480 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 2: come around to Donald Trump because Joe Biden is willing 481 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: to put those autofactories down in Mexico. Look at the 482 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: state of Wisconsin, and I just want to go back 483 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 2: to those numbers. Four years ago today we were down 484 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: full point four points in Wisconsin. Today we're up three. 485 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: If anybody thinks that Tim Wallas has been in addition 486 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: to this campaign for Kamala Harris, they are sorely mistaken. 487 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 2: He is the most, if not the most very close 488 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: to the most radical governor in America, and his Midwest 489 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 2: values have not given them any bump in those battleground 490 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 2: states of Michigan, Wisconsin, or Pennsylvania. 491 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: Corey, we know you talked to Trump on a regular 492 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: daily basis. The debate coming up, there's one debate that 493 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: Kamala has agreed to so far, Right's still just one. 494 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: I think that she said, okay, yeah, I'll show up 495 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: for that one. What should we expect from the big guy? 496 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: Look, I think Donald Trump has been preparing for debates 497 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 2: his entire life. We know that, and I've heard it 498 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: hundreds of times. If Donald Trump would just do this, 499 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 2: he will win, or if he'll just stop talking. You know, 500 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: he has a record of winning presidential debates, whether it 501 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: was in the primary process all the way back in 502 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 2: fifteen and sixteen, which I know many of you remember, 503 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 2: or it was when he debated Hillary Clinton and he 504 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: said you'd be in jail. It was that one liner, 505 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 2: the off the cuff, you know, extemporaneous statement that he 506 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: made that everybody started laughing. Or at the last debate, well, 507 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is ruling on himself and Donald Trump turned 508 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 2: and said, I don't know what that guy just said, 509 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: and either does he. I mean, you know, it's so 510 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: funny because this guy has such a quick wit that 511 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 2: I would anticipate a line like that is going to 512 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 2: happen in this debate, and it's going to show the 513 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: humanization of Donald Trump, because I believe Kamala Harris is 514 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 2: just going to try and be a robot. She's going 515 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 2: to tell us how she prosecutes criminals like Donald Trump, 516 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 2: and how she has made her way and broken through 517 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 2: the glass ceiling and all of those things. The reality 518 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: is she doesn't know what she's for and what she's against. 519 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: And this is going to be the first time truly 520 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 2: that the American people will have a chance to see 521 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: and hear from her because most of the media has 522 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 2: given her a free pass for the last forty five days. 523 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 3: Corey, do you think that Kamala camp is starting to 524 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 3: panic a little bit? It feels like they got the 525 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 3: sugar high in August, then they didn't get as much 526 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: as they thought coming out of the DNC, and the 527 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: numbers have continued to tick back. Have you seen that 528 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 3: in the internal pole with the Trump team and does 529 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: that kind of characterize why we've seen it feels sort 530 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 3: of like a frenetic Kamala Harris campaign of late, where 531 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 3: they're just desperately trying to erase the things that she 532 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 3: said she's four in the past and now claim she's 533 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 3: against them. 534 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, her staff is out actively telling all the members 535 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 2: of the media what Kamala now stands for. We haven't 536 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: heard it from her, we haven't heard it from the candidate, 537 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: but our staff is doing it on Friday nights and 538 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 2: you know, privately with members of the media because they're 539 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 2: afraid because coming off of the Democrat Convention, she should 540 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 2: have gotten a five to seven point bump, but she 541 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: did not. And the reason she didn't get that bump 542 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: partially is because we received and secured the RFK endorsement 543 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: the following day. And I don't want to overlook that, 544 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 2: but that RFK endorsement in Glendale, Arizona might have been 545 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: the largest crowd and rally and applause I have ever 546 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: heard for anybody on a debate on a stage other 547 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: than Donald John's Trump. The crowd was in love with 548 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: this guy. And what we're seeing and what the polling 549 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: data is indicating is those women who are twenty five 550 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 2: to forty years old, who have multiple children or children 551 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: are coming to the Trump campaign in record numbers because 552 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 2: they're concerned about what Kamala and Joe did to their 553 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: kids forcing them. With the vaccines and the RFK Junior 554 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: endorsement and the Tulsa Gabbard endorsement are paying significant dividends 555 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: of the campaign in both the short term and then 556 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: we'll continue to do so in the long term. 557 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: We got one more question for you from one of 558 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: our VIPs. VIP Joe asks Corey where all the commercials? 559 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 1: Please tell me the battleground states are going to get 560 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: flooded with commercials. I haven't heard or seen one single 561 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: Trump commercial. What can you tell me about how he's 562 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: in by the way in Mississippi. So I think some 563 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: people out there in red states are seeing I ain't seeing much. 564 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: Corey. 565 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 3: My bet is going to be you're feeling pretty good 566 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: about a lot of states. 567 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, if we got trouble in Mississippi, fellaws, we're 568 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 2: in big right. I think we're gonna be okay down 569 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 2: and those are our people. But that said, don't forget. 570 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: We are just under nine weeks away from election day, 571 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: although early voting in balloty going out as early as 572 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: Saturday in the States, So we are running TV commercials. 573 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: But I want people to remember this, fifty percent of 574 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: the electorate no longer receives their communication from television, from 575 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: mainstream media. They getting it through social media platforms, They're 576 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: getting it from their phone. So our ability to communicate 577 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: with those people continue to evolves as the delivery platforms 578 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: continue to evolve. And that's what we're trying to do 579 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: is make sure that the right people are getting the 580 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: right messages at the right time. 581 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 3: Corey Buck and I have both said that we're going 582 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 3: to vote early. We're going to get our ballot in. 583 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 3: For people out there that are listening right now, would 584 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 3: you encourage them to go vote early? If so, why 585 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 3: what is the impact? 586 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 2: Well, let me tell you something. I am a big 587 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: believer and now I live in a state of New 588 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 2: Hampshire that we don't have really voting. We don't have 589 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: a voting You have to vote on election day shy 590 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: of you know, a major health crisis. But in places 591 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: that allow people to vote early, absolutely take that opportunity. 592 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: You know, Republicans always win on election day because our 593 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 2: people tend to wait. But the Democrats have mastered disability 594 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: to go to people and get them to vote early 595 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 2: and put that money in the bank for later. To 596 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: put that vote in the bank for later. I think 597 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: what we're going to see It may just be one debate, 598 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 2: It may be and maybe two or three. We don't know. 599 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: Kamala's team won't commit to that. But if you get 600 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 2: your ballot, don't wait and hold it for sixty days. 601 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: If you already know that you're voting for Donald Trump, 602 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 2: you put your name on that envelope, fill it out, 603 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: vote for Donald Trump, and get it back in. Because 604 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: that's how we're going to be successful is making sure 605 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: that every person who has the opportunity to vote early 606 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: is doing that. And if we can maintain parody with 607 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 2: the Democrats and their early vote in the addit voting, 608 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 2: we know that we'll win on election day and we 609 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 2: have to have a system and an election outcome that's 610 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 2: too big to rig. 611 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 3: Corey, keep up the good work. Tell President Trump to 612 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: have fun tonight in Harrisburg with Sean Hannity. We know 613 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: he will in six days from now. We can't wait 614 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 3: to watch that first debate. 615 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: Thank you, guys. 616 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 3: That is Corey Lewandusky. He is fighting hard for Trump 617 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 3: every single day. 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That's pound two 636 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 3: five zero say Clay and Buck. 637 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 5: Have fun with the guys on Sundays This Sunday hang podcast. 638 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 5: It's silly, it's goofy, it's good times. Fight it in 639 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 5: the Clay and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app 640 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 5: or wherever you get your podcasts. 641 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 642 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 3: of you hanging out with us. Brand new breaking news story. 643 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 3: By the way, Kamala Harris, this is from the Wall 644 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 3: Street Journal literally just popped up. Kamala Harris evidently getting 645 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 3: so much heat on her economic policies that she is 646 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 3: not going to increase the capital gains tax rate as 647 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: much as President Biden to do. She's supposed to speak 648 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 3: Wednesday afternoon, New Hampshire. They're declining to comment but they 649 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 3: are now saying that they will not be willing to 650 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 3: increase as much as had previously been the case. Now 651 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 3: it's still going to be awful for anybody out there 652 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 3: that is involved in making investments. You don't want to 653 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 3: be involved in the Kamala Harris economic plan. But she 654 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 3: is supposedly going to address this in New Hampshire, and 655 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 3: you just heard from Corey Lewandowski. I think this is 656 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 3: a big deal. The fact that Kamala Harris, immediately after 657 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 3: the start of the official race, right with Labor Day, 658 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 3: would run to New Hampshire is a sign that the 659 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 3: polling is really moving in a bad direction for her. 660 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 3: And in fact, as I am talking to all of you, 661 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 3: Trump has now opened up a six point lead in 662 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 3: the gambling markets in Pennsylvania. What you should be preparing 663 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 3: for is pure desperation in the next several weeks, particularly 664 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 3: if the debate six days from now doesn't really break 665 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 3: Kamala's way. Buck you just mentioned with Corey, I do 666 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 3: think this is significant. Trump said, hey, I'll debate you 667 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 3: two times three times. He's gonna be on with Sean 668 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 3: Hannity tonight from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Kamala has still only committed 669 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 3: to one debate. I think she's waiting to see how 670 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 3: September tenth goes and how her polling looks to make 671 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 3: a decision about whether she wants to debate Trump more 672 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 3: than once. I really think that's why she hasn't made 673 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 3: that direct pronouncement of sure, I'll do two debates, I'll 674 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,959 Speaker 3: do three debates. I think she's hoping to get away 675 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 3: with only one. I really do. Oh yeah, oh, absolutely. 676 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: Look, Biden should have taken my advice given freely on 677 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: this air, which was that he shouldn't have debated Trump. 678 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: He'd be the nominee. And I think the Democrats without 679 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: that debate, I think Biden's far more competitive against Trump 680 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: than people realize now. But with Kamala, familiarity breeds concern 681 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: among Democrats when it comes to this campaign. The more 682 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 1: they know, the more they're like, I don't think we 683 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: can get this done. So one debate one and done. 684 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: Absolutely my expectation. But I think she's going to be 685 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: in rough shape. And I actually think Trump's going to 686 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,280 Speaker 1: have an interesting decision to make because if he continues 687 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: to have things move in his direction and does a 688 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: good job, which I think he will on September tenth. 689 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: I think she's going to be begging for debates and 690 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: Trump won't actually necessarily need to do for them, which 691 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: would put her in a really tough spot. Play some 692 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: audio for you, Stelter back on C and N when 693 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: we return.