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Speaker 1: Here we go. It's Monday, Seattle Seahawks super Bowl victory Monday.

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Speaker 1: We are live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Wherever

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Speaker 1: you may be and however you may be listening. Matt

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Speaker 1: Hasselbeck is five minutes away. So wow. You know, sports

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Speaker 1: is so great. You just never know what you're going

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Speaker 1: to get in sports. It's just so amazing. My sister

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Speaker 1: didn't even like sports my old whole childhood. And then

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks, you know, they get the Russell Pete John

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Speaker 1: Snyder thing. And now she's I got emoji's firing at me.

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Speaker 1: She's all fired up about I call her after the

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Speaker 1: game last night. She's like, ah, we were setting off fireworks.

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Speaker 1: We're all going crazy here in Grayln, Washington. All right,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Colin Wright, Colin Wrang.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold seven hundred yards, five touchdowns, no picks, and

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Speaker 1: a one h two passer rating in the Superior NFC

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Speaker 1: playoffs in Super Bowl. I never wavered on Sam because

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Speaker 1: quarterback is about traits, arm size, mobility, toughness, humility. I

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Speaker 1: always ask people in the league who I respected, and

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Speaker 1: the smart people always said, he just needs the right fit.

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Speaker 1: He came into the league at twenty in New York

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Speaker 1: and he just didn't have great college coaching. He just

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Speaker 1: got overwhelmed. Just wait until he gets the right coach.

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Speaker 1: Way to go, Sam. Where Colin was wrong, Seattle dominated

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Speaker 1: the scoreboard more than I thought. I thought it would

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Speaker 1: be close, but Drake May was so ineffective. Some of

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Speaker 1: it is Will Campbell, who will eventually, my guess is

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Speaker 1: get moved inside. But I mean three nothing in the

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Speaker 1: turnover department for the Seahawks. They got better quarterback play.

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Speaker 1: I mean, by the early second quarter, it felt like

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Speaker 1: we had the makings potentially of a blowout, and that

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Speaker 1: I knew it was a potential outcome. But it's not

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Speaker 1: the outcome I predicted. Where Colin was right, I said

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Speaker 1: last week the one thing I was certain about in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, New England would not be able to

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Speaker 1: run the ball. Their offensive line not good enough. They're

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Speaker 1: not dynamic enough. They had forty two yards rushing by

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Speaker 1: running backs, and again Drake May had a couple of

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Speaker 1: scrambles that makes it look more dynamic. But they still

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Speaker 1: need to attack the offensive line in the draft. We

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Speaker 1: had said throughout the course of the playoff run, the

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Speaker 1: Patriots are still a draft away from elevating their tight

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Speaker 1: end group, elevating their offensive line. But my concern in

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Speaker 1: And he was one in seven in games in which

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: I did not have Christian Gonzalez in my top ten

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Speaker 1: an eleven or twelve. He's phenomenal. He does get banged

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Speaker 1: the Packers. He looks, I mean, he is literally an

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Speaker 1: Adonis with no body fat. He's just a remarkable athlete.

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Speaker 1: And on this this ball is a little behind JSN,

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right, I said.

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Speaker 1: After Seattle lost to the Rams, I said, what team

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Speaker 1: They just got to clean their act up and if

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was wrong.

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Speaker 1: Defensive head coaches won the day. McVeigh, Ben Johnson, Kyle

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Speaker 1: Drake May. Where Colin was right, Devin Witherspoon, to me,

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Speaker 2: Go get him where Colin was right?

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Speaker 1: Well, I said Matt Stafford should be MVP over Drake May.

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Speaker 1: And the reason isn't stats or analytics. It's because Matt

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Speaker 1: see how good that Seahawk defense is. Stafford tore apart

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Speaker 1: big plays. Stafford is something that Drake May can't possibly

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Speaker 1: be yet at twenty three years old. The maturity. I

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Speaker 1: said before, Matt Stafford has more fourth quarter comeback wins

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Speaker 1: than Drake May has. Pro starts. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear about analytics and starts. They're just different quarterbacks. And

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Speaker 1: that's why, as Tom Brady said last week, so many

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Speaker 1: twenty nine. Look at Sam Donald. He is a different

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Speaker 1: Colin Wright, Colin wrong with that? A very happy man

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Speaker 1: is joining us live. Matt Hasselback a decade with the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: eighteen years in the NFL. Look at that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if happy he's the right way right now, Colin.

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Speaker 3: Maybe regretful should have gone to bed earlier.

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Speaker 1: Man, Hey, man, there's one.

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Speaker 3: I was avvy yesterday. I was haavy yesterday. I know

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Speaker 3: that for sure. I got a few days to recover.

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Speaker 3: There's going to be a parade in Seattle on Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: I got some time.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, what an incredible day yesterday.

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Speaker 1: You know it's funny, I don't you didn't hear this

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Speaker 1: believe he said it. He goes, well, if Seattle doesn't

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Speaker 1: you when you're watching them and you can tell stuff,

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Speaker 1: at that and go, man, Seattle just looks a little different.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, with the exception of the defense for New

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Speaker 3: you know, it was like Felix Sihawks were dominating, especially

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Speaker 4: So much, you know, so many football games.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, you know that defense for New England they just

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Speaker 3: so many punts. I think it was like eight punts

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Speaker 1: You know, Mike McDonald calls his own plays. I always

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Speaker 3: Well, you got to remember why you got hired in

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Speaker 4: And there's a great feel for that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this Seahawks defense was so good at getting

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Speaker 4: It was a blitz fest and there was blood in

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Speaker 3: They were shark circling and they were like, you know what,

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Speaker 3: usually we're not going to be a blitz repeating team,

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Speaker 4: It's not normal.

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Speaker 3: You know, Devin Witherspoon's an incredible, incredible corner, incredible corner

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Speaker 4: And then I think, you know, twenty minutes.

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Speaker 3: Later they said, no, that was a pick six, But

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Speaker 3: that's a Devin Witherspoon and Mike McDonald touchdown in my mind. So,

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Speaker 3: I mean, they were just the great defenses. I mean

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Speaker 3: I thought. I think that's what I saw to Seattle yesterday.

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Speaker 1: It was interesting. Matt as somebody that's at home and

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Speaker 1: just a sportscaster who's never been on the field in

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Speaker 3: And to me, I think when I look at the

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Speaker 4: They're young.

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Speaker 3: I think they're going to get better someday. It was

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Speaker 3: You're our guy, Sam, you're our guy. You don't have

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Speaker 3: People in the building were probably saying, now, he's not

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Speaker 1: Room Yeah, the you know, Drake May J. Mack had

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Speaker 3: And I was very impressed to see Kenneth Walker at

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Speaker 4: He looked great.

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Speaker 3: Mike McDonald looks like he slept twelve hours. I don't

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Speaker 3: right and see anybody awesome Colin.

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Speaker 1: Five teams, and it's not just going to be record.

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Speaker 1: You are going to feel differently about these teams positively

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Speaker 1: next year and then five teams and some of the

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Speaker 1: teams that I have going down are are teams that

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Speaker 1: will be good, but I don't think they'll be as special.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna play five up, five down. Let's start

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Speaker 1: glass half full se who I am at my core?

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Speaker 1: First of all, five up, the New York Giants is

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Speaker 1: the easiest pick on the board. I like their roster,

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Speaker 1: top ten zero line, top ten D line, I think

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Speaker 1: eleven according to PFF. They were one in seven in

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Speaker 1: one score games. Jackson Dart now gets an elite coach

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Speaker 1: and a culture center. They have the number five overall pick.

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Speaker 1: They can trade down and accumulate more picks. Their lines

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Speaker 1: are good enough. They got to get a right tackle,

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Speaker 1: a tight end probably another weapon. Scataboo Jackson Dart four

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Speaker 1: and thirteen Giants are my pick to double their win total.

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Speaker 1: They'll look different by mid September. The Commanders same division.

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Speaker 1: They get Jayden Daniels back. They were five and twelve.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're going to win ten games,

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Speaker 1: but they have a lot of cap space. They're the

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Speaker 1: oldest team in the NFL. The Commanders are going to

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Speaker 1: be a different looking team again. Seven to one score games,

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Speaker 1: they won only two. Dan Quinn is solid, if not

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Speaker 1: exceptional cap space, lost a lot of close games. They

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Speaker 1: get their quarterback back. Just don't forget how gifted he

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Speaker 1: was as a rookie. The third team is the Detroit

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Speaker 1: Lions at nine to eight, they're going to get back

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Speaker 1: into the twelve win territory. I love. I was surprised

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Speaker 1: they didn't get more positive feedback the higher of Arizona's

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, Drew Petsing. Didn't anybody else watch Arizona this

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Speaker 1: year and go, how the hell are they scoring all

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Speaker 1: these points? With Jacoby Brissett, he's clever, Maybe not Ben Johnson,

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Speaker 1: but their stars are locked up. Goff is still in

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Speaker 1: his prime. Amaran Saint Brown, Pinasoul Hutchison, gibbson a rookie deal,

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Speaker 1: not a very good team in close games. Dan Campbell

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Speaker 1: had to take over the offense. This is still an

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Speaker 1: elite front office that drafts well and acquires well. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna get their mojo back. They struggle at OC nine

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Speaker 1: to eight to probably an eleven or a twelve win team.

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Speaker 1: The Chargers. Now they were eleven and six and they

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Speaker 1: may only go twelve and five. They will feel different.

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel probably the best coordinator higher in the sport.

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Speaker 1: They get both offensive tackles back and both are way

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Speaker 1: above average. Third most cap space. They have drafted well

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Speaker 1: with Jim Harbaugh. Again, they have been a defensive first

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Speaker 1: team that survives offensively that we're not considering a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl team. Next year there'll be an offensive led team

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Speaker 1: that won't be as good defensively, but you will feel

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Speaker 1: very early in the season, oh, this team could win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Whether they do or not, they'll have

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Speaker 1: a totally different feel and finally an easy one. The

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs two years ago, they won every close game.

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Speaker 1: Last year they lost every close game. One and nine.

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Speaker 1: You know you're gonna get in the middle somewhere around there. Also,

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Speaker 1: their offensive tackle position when Josh Simmons wasn't playing and

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Speaker 1: he's really talented, was a mess. Key's back. Mahomes is healthy.

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Speaker 1: Travis kelce I argued for him to return one more year. Listen,

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Speaker 1: you just have to be honest about it. When you're

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Speaker 1: drafting at the bottom of rounds, it's really hard. GMS

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Speaker 1: will tell you after about the eighteenth pick you wish

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Speaker 1: you could just have more second and third round picks.

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Speaker 1: They're going to be fine, They're going to improve. Six

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Speaker 1: and eleven. My guess becomes eleven and six. Here's five

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Speaker 1: down Houston, twelve and five. Could they have dominated their

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Speaker 1: division the last two years? Ten and two. That's not

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Speaker 1: happening again. That's not happening again. Tennessee is going to

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Speaker 1: be much better. Jacksonville is really good. They've also been

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Speaker 1: five to nine the last couple of years against teams

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Speaker 1: that make the playoffs. I love CJ. Stroud. I think

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Speaker 1: he throws the prettiest ball. On some Sundays in the league.

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Speaker 1: He has regressed to an eighty nine passer rating guy

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Speaker 1: who turns the ball over way too much. They will

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Speaker 1: be good as long as Demico Ryans is the coach.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think they feel the same. I don't

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Speaker 1: think offensively they've got the right rhythm. Twelve and five

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Speaker 1: to me becomes like what nine and eight, ten and

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Speaker 1: ten and seven? But you never feel like they're a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl team. I would say the Patriots, Okay, fourteen

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Speaker 1: and three is not happening. AFC is going to be

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Speaker 1: much better. The Chiefs will be better, the Charges will

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Speaker 1: be better. Cincinnati, Baltimore, Jacksonville's only getting better. And Liam

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Speaker 1: Cohen's second year, they're not going fourteen and three my

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Speaker 1: guest closer than ten eleven wins. Also, it's the Dan

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Speaker 1: Reno thing. They get to solve their offensive line. Dan

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Speaker 1: Marino with Don Schuel never got back to a super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: It was a really bad year. I mean they got

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Speaker 1: Let's be honest, if b Nicks plays, they probably don't

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Speaker 1: make the super Bowl. They were completely overwhelmed by Seattle.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't necessarily close. I love Rabel, Drake May's good,

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Speaker 1: but you start looking at the AFC, there's just too

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Speaker 1: many good quarterbacks. There's too many good coaches, there's too

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Speaker 1: many good coordinators. They take a step back. Forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers who I love, twelve and five. George Kettle probably

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Speaker 1: not available till mid season. Robert Sala had an unbelievable

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Speaker 1: year as defensive coordinator. Bosa aging getting hurt more often.

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Speaker 1: What are they gonna do at receiver? Brandon neu Ayuk's gone?

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Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings is a free agent? What are they gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey comes off a four hundred and fifty touch

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Speaker 1: season and he is now thirty. So I again, they

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Speaker 1: did it with smoking mirrors last year. They'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're at twelve and five team Cowboys

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Speaker 1: seven nine to one. I think they unravel. They're a mess.

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Speaker 1: How Jerry Jones a business man? How can you be

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Speaker 1: this big of a mess. They're twenty nine million over

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Speaker 1: the cap. They want to pay George Pickens. That's going

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Speaker 1: to cost you twenty nine million dollars. Worst defense in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. They're spending an NFL high seventy million on

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Speaker 1: their interior defensive line and an NFL low six million

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Speaker 1: on their edge rushers. How are they this big of

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Speaker 1: a mess? Stop trying to get discounts. Hire a real GM,

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Speaker 1: pay big money for a coach. Seven nine to one,

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Speaker 1: they're going down and finally Philadelphia had eleven and six.

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Speaker 1: How many coordinator changes can you make? You just had

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Speaker 1: a top offensive line coach, say, I'm out. You've got

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Speaker 1: some older offensive linemen who are getting banged up increasingly

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Speaker 1: and may may decide at some point. I'm out. I

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Speaker 1: think they've been doing it a little bit, just on

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Speaker 1: Howie Roseman's roster. But I don't feel Sirianni's an elite coach.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about the record, and I think the

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Speaker 1: books in on Jalen Hurts not beloved in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: I've got that sourced. I also I think he struggles

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Speaker 1: throwing the ball down the field. I said it yesterday.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to give Sam Donald any credit. Donald

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Speaker 1: sits in that pocket, doesn't turn it over in the

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Speaker 1: last month, and throws the ball right into the heart

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Speaker 1: of the defense. I'm sorry. On the market, I think

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Speaker 1: GMS take Donald over Jalen Hurts. So Giants, Commander's Lion, Chargers,

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Speaker 1: Chiefs up down, Texans, Patriots, Niners, Cowboys, Eagles. I also

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Speaker 1: think Tennessee should be better, but I'm not ready to

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Speaker 1: commit one more.

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Speaker 1: So I was thinking about this. I know it's really

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Speaker 1: really early, but the NFL season is over, and once

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Speaker 1: an NFL season ends, there are three ways to improve

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Speaker 1: your team. Number one is the coaching and staff hires.

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Speaker 1: Number two is free agency, and number three is the

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Speaker 1: dry Those are the primary ways. I think the draft's

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Speaker 1: worth about fifteen percent. I think free agencies are worth

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Speaker 1: about fifteen percent, and I think Ben Johnson and Mike

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Speaker 1: Vrabel are proof. The coaching is about seventy percent. Now,

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Speaker 1: most rosters don't radically change, and if they do, like

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Speaker 1: New England change this year, well it's up to Mike Frabel,

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Speaker 1: the coach. Okay, so to me, the coaching thing really matters.

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Speaker 1: So if you look at the teams that have made

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Speaker 1: big jumps in a year, Ben Johnson, Mike Rabel, Jim Harbaugh,

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Speaker 1: Liam Cohen, Sean Payton, it's not all players. It's mostly

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Speaker 1: the coach. And if they do change the roster, the

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Speaker 1: coach has big say in that. The coach making eighteen

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Speaker 1: million a year has a lot of say in even

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Speaker 1: the draft and free agency so I mean the Titans

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Speaker 1: and Giants had a lot of money last year, they

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Speaker 1: didn't have the right coaches. Okay, New England had a

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Speaker 1: lot of money last year. In free agency, they had

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Speaker 1: the right coach. I mean Jackson Dart and Drake Mayor

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Speaker 1: both talented. It's the coach and Seattle the draft. So

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Speaker 1: it's not the draft. Seattle as the draft. They had

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Speaker 1: two guys, a guard and a safety out of the

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Speaker 1: draft class. They had an impact two of twenty two starters,

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Speaker 1: and that's not counting special teams, and their special teams

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Speaker 1: in Seattle were impactful. So I do believe you can

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Speaker 1: look after all the coaching hires. I'm going to do

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Speaker 1: a top ten, after the coaching hires, after free agency,

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Speaker 1: and after the draft, and I would say, here we go,

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Speaker 1: number ten. I think the Chiefs. I'd put them at

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Speaker 1: number ten right now. They've got three really good picks,

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Speaker 1: three of the top seventy five picks. They need to

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Speaker 1: get a rush end, an offensive tackle, probably a running back.

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Speaker 1: If they get that notre name running back in the

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Speaker 1: first round, I don't think they will, but if they

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Speaker 1: do absolute home run, I have them at ten. Number

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Speaker 1: nine would be Buffalo Okay, Buffalo doesn't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of cap space, and they don't have a pro bowler

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Speaker 1: on defense right now. Joe Brady. Is he an upgrade

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Speaker 1: over Sean McDermott. I don't necessarily think so. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: wait and see. Their schedule is brutal rams Texans, AFC

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Speaker 1: West and North, brutal, brutal schedule. Number six the Patriots

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Speaker 1: or number eight the Patriots. I like New England, but

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Speaker 1: Drake May was sacked sixty eight times this year. The

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Speaker 1: O line doesn't need a tweak. It mostly outside of guard,

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Speaker 1: needs an overhaul. Three straight playoff games with eight plus

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Speaker 1: points at one point in the Super Bowl, eight drives,

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Speaker 1: eight points and seven completions. They also played an incredibly

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Speaker 1: weak schedule. Next year, I think it's a top six,

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Speaker 1: most difficult schedule. They'll be a very good team. I

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Speaker 1: don't think in the AFC they'll represent the conference in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Number seven I would say the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 1: I really like their OCA higher out of Arizona. I

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Speaker 1: was surprised how good the Cardinals offense was at times

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Speaker 1: this year. With to Kobe Brissaid. I think they've got

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Speaker 1: their star players all signed and They've got star players

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Speaker 1: at key positions pass rusher, tackle, weapon, quarterback. I have

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Speaker 1: the Lions at seven, number six Liam Cohen. Year one.

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Speaker 1: What a turnaround by the Jaguars. Top ten in offense

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Speaker 1: and defense. They're only going to get better. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: first coach to ever win thirteen plus games taken over

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Speaker 1: a team with four fewer wins only first year head coach.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty good. That's pretty good team. So and I

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Speaker 1: think they didn't have Travis Hunter playing much. He should

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Speaker 1: play a role going for Jags at six. I think

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Speaker 1: the Chargers are going to feel like a super Bowl

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Speaker 1: team in September. Upgrade at oc bolt tackles back, tons

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Speaker 1: of cap space, and I think they're going to spend

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Speaker 1: it on offense to protect Justin Herbert as they should.

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Speaker 1: The defense may not be as good without Jesse Miner.

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Speaker 1: It'll be fine, but I think they're going to look

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Speaker 1: like a different team offensively next year. I'd put the

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Speaker 1: Bears at four. I know you think it's high. The

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Speaker 1: Rams had to play a perfect game and beat him

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Speaker 1: in overtime in the playoffs. Last four losses all came

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Speaker 1: in one score games. Teams, by the way, went two

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Speaker 1: to fourteen and one after they played the Bears. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what that means, but it's something. They did

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Speaker 1: not take the ball away in the playoffs like they

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Speaker 1: did in the regular season. I think they have to

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Speaker 1: suspend almost their entire draft capital on defensive players. Number

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Speaker 1: three the Denver Broncos. Not only were they missing bow Knicks,

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Speaker 1: but JK. Dobbins and two of their top three receivers

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Speaker 1: in the playoff game. They should have been the super

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Speaker 1: Bowl team. They matched up with Seattle much better. I

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Speaker 1: think Seattle would have won, but Denver kind of felt

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Speaker 1: like between the blizzard and their injuries, they got bad breaks.

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Speaker 1: Fewest sacks allowed tied from the fewest sacks allowed and

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Speaker 1: the most sacks on defense. I'm sorry. I like the coach,

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Speaker 1: the roster, and the quarterback. Number two, and maybe they

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Speaker 1: should be Number one. I'd put the Rams out gained

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Speaker 1: opponents even in their five losses this year, highest quidded offense,

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Speaker 1: highest quided defense according to PFF, played the toughest schedule

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Speaker 1: by any playoff team. I worry about Matt Stafford's age,

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Speaker 1: but there's an argument they'll be the best team in

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Speaker 1: the league next year. Number One Seattle between Mike McDonald,

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Speaker 1: John Snyder, his drafting record, Sam Donald, so many of

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Speaker 1: it's like it's like watching a little bit like watching

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Speaker 1: OKC last year, the Spurs this year. They have so

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Speaker 1: much upside and they're already really really good. So Seattle

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Speaker 1: just doesn't miss. And they've last four years they have

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Speaker 1: hit on their top two picks, and I mean stars

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Speaker 1: the last four years in the draft top two picks,

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Speaker 1: so they're not even paying those guys yet. That would

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Speaker 1: be my top ten right now. I don't have Green Bay,

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Speaker 1: but they've been a number seven seed in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: haven't they this year? There were seven seed with the

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Speaker 1: seven seed the year before. J Mack, You A, you're

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Speaker 1: just puzzled by.

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Speaker 5: This, listen. I know, I know, we have a guest

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Speaker 5: usually here. I got a lot to say about this one.

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Speaker 5: So they've weisted wait a little bit. I mean it's

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Speaker 5: kind of wild here, coward really So no Eagles anywhere

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Speaker 5: to be found, No Joe Burrow, no Lamar Jackson. I mean,

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Speaker 5: were you the one they had? Nine?

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson that new contract, he's gonna get that that

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Speaker 1: the Ravens are gonna have to move off. People?

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Speaker 5: Where are the Houston Texans is eleven or something like.

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Speaker 1: Aren't you the guy that kept complaining that C. J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud was regressing?

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Speaker 5: I think he's not a very good quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So also, you don't have a very good quarterback.

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 1: How are you better than Mahomes and Josh Allen and

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Speaker 1: Drake May and Jared Goff?

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Speaker 5: The defense is elite, and we just saw it's not

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Speaker 5: about quarterbacks, it's about defense at this point, I'm surprised

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Speaker 5: he Atlanta Falcons. Okay, I'm just that's just a joke.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, this is uh three from the AFC West. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: two from the NFC West.

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Speaker 4: No Niners.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you know how I like Mendoza Raiders. Maybe eleven

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Speaker 1: by September A couple stop