1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: So there's a story that everybody is working on, and 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: that is what really happened behind the scenes with the 3 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: parting of the ways with Tucker Carlson. There's gonna be 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: a lot that's gonna be said that's just not gonna 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: be true. There's gonna be some that is said that's 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: gonna be taken out of context. There's gonna be some 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: that have said that is gonna be blown up bigger 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: than it actually is. The Wall Street Journal is running 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: a headline this morning, Tucker Carlson's vulgar, offensive messages about 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: colleagues helped seal his fate at Fox News. The primetime 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: host called a senior executive the c word. Yeah, that's 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: their headline. Several weeks ago, The article reads, Fox News 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: lawyers were preparing for a courtroom showdown with dominion voting systems. 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: They presented Tuger Carlson with what they thought was some 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: good news they had persuaded the court to redact from 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: a legal filing the time he called a senior foxhw's 17 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: executive the sea word. 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: According to people familiar with. 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: The matter, mister Carlson, Fox News's most watched primetime host, 20 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: wasn't impressed, he told his colleagues that he wanted the 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: word the world to know what he had said about 22 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: the executive in a private message. The people said, mister 23 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: Carlson said comments he made about former Presidential Trump quote unquote, 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: I hate him passionately that were in the court documents 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: were said during a momentary's spasm of anger, while his 26 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: dislike of the executive was deep and enduring. The Wall 27 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: Street Journal says this morning in their newest breaking story 28 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: on this The messages were part of a trove of 29 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: emails and texts from Fox executives and hosts that were 30 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: made public as a result of Dominion's defamation lawsuit. The 31 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: voting machine company accused Fox News of varying false claims 32 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: by hosts and guests that Dominion helped rig the outcome 33 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty US presidential election in favor of 34 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Fox HW's parents' parent company, Fox Corporation, last 35 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: week agreed to pay seven hundred and eighty seven point 36 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: five million to settle that dispute on Monday, Mister Carlson's 37 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: famously combative stance towards members of Fox hu's management and 38 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: other colleagues caught up with him as the network abruptly 39 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: announced it was parting ways with him. The Wall Street 40 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: Journal rights just minutes after informing mister Carlson of the change, 41 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: private message in which mister Carlson showed disregard for management 42 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: and colleagues, were a major factor in that decision, according 43 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: to other people familiar with the matter, Although many portions 44 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: of the dominion court documents are redacted, there is concern 45 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: among Fox Corp. Executives that if the redactive material were 46 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: to become public, it would lead to further embarrassment for 47 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: the network and the parent company. With an average audience 48 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: of three point five million viewers, mister Carlson's Tucker Carlson 49 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: to Night was the network's most watched evening show and 50 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,399 Speaker 1: the second most popular telecast overall, behind the afternoon talk 51 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: show The Five with Fox. Within Fox's management, reservations had 52 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: been mounting about risks mister Carlton presented for the network, 53 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: people familiar with the matter said to The Wall Street Journal. 54 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: Some of the people pointed to concerns that the populous 55 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 1: firebrand had come to believe himself bigger than the network. 56 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: A cardinal sin in Fox Corporation the chair Rupert Murdoch's 57 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: empire and was increasingly operating as his own island, which 58 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: was also a problem. Mister Murdoch and his family are 59 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: largely are the largest large shareholders in Fox Corp. And 60 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: the Wall Street Journal parent company News Corp. So if 61 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: you want to know why the Wall Street Journal is 62 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: doing this article, so the Wall Street Journal is part 63 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: of News Corp. And so of course they're going to 64 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: get this insider information so that people maybe don't like 65 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson as much. This is what you call a 66 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: planted story in the Wall Street Journal. Just so you 67 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: know how the corporate hierarchy of these articles get written. 68 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: They get rid of somebody, They then take some of 69 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: the information, they hand it over to the Wall Street Journal, 70 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: which is a part of News Corp. 71 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: And then you write this article on air. 72 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: Mister Carlson had turned up the volume on commentary that 73 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: had expanded beyond a conservative viewpoint on politics into more 74 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: of an attack on marginalized groups. The Wall Street Journal 75 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: rights his show more than those of his primetime colleague 76 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: Sean Hanny. Laura Ingram frequently landed the network in hot water, 77 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: particularly with advertisers. Mister Carlton sometimes trafficked and what critics, 78 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: including some higher ups within Fox, felt with thinleaveield racism 79 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: on a show, such as when he recently suggests a 80 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: Tennessee lawmaker got into a good college only because of 81 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: his skin colors. 82 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 2: Some of the people said. 83 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: Mister Carlson declined to comment on his departure to The 84 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal. In recent years, battles between mister Carlson 85 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: and Fox management had got so bad that former Trump 86 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: aid Raj Shaha was appointed to be his internal advocate 87 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: and an intermediate intermediary between mister Carlson and Fox's communication department. 88 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: According to people familiar with the arrangement and filing in 89 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: the dominion case, that is a weird communication link. I 90 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: would agree with that, Okay. I think everybody knows that. 91 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: If you don't know who this guy is. Raj is 92 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: A was a former government official, a physician and health 93 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: economists who served as a sixteenth in the sixteen administration 94 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: of the United States Agency for International Development from twenty 95 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: ten twenty fifteen. He then went into the Trump administration 96 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: after that. He is a very smart guy who is 97 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: very very kind. He is also senior vice president of 98 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: Fox Corporation, which is exactly why he would be used 99 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: in this scenario. So it's not like you as an 100 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: outsider brought in. His title is senior vice President Fox Corporation. 101 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: Just so you know, that's a pretty significant role, okay. 102 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: He served as again. Prior to joining Fox, he served 103 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: as senior roles in the White House Press and Communications offices. 104 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: Among his responsibilities, he oversaw strategy and communications for the 105 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: White House's successful effort to confirm Justice Brett Cavanaugh the 106 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. Referred to by a leading reporter as one 107 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: of the most highly regarded operatives in the White House 108 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: press shop, he made himself invaluable with the White House 109 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: staff for his political research skills. During the twenty sixteen campaign. 110 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: Raj served as research director and deputy communications director of 111 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: the Republican National Committee as the party retok the White 112 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: House and held both Houses of Congress. So he has 113 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: a long understanding of how politics works and how communications work. 114 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: So this idea that you know, they try to frame 115 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: it in this article that somehow this guy's like an 116 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: outside that was brought in just so they could communicate. No, 117 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: he's a senior vice president of the Fox Corporation. Okay, 118 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: he's been there for three almost four years now. Tucker 119 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: clearly liked him. But the idea he was appointed to 120 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: be his internal advocate and an intermediary between him and 121 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: Fox's communications department, the guy works in communications. 122 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: I think that's a stretch, is my point. 123 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: According to people familiar with the arrangement and filing in 124 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: the dominion case, quote unquote, the Wall Street Journal continues, 125 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: mister Carlton was livid Fox News didn't do more to 126 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: protect him from the negative press coverage around the dominion case. 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I'm going to go 152 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: back to this article from the Wall Street Journal. So 153 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: you know the Wall Street Journal is owned by News Corp. 154 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised this article came out. It makes sense. 155 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: They want to make it look better for Fox News 156 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: Channel so you'll be not as mad at Fox News Channel, 157 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: and so they're going to leak out information the Wall 158 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: Street Journal, which they own. Back to the story, mister 159 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: Carlson was livid that Fox News didn't do more to 160 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: protect him from the negative press coverage around the Dominion 161 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: case that he was expected to testify in, given that 162 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: the primary actor actor's responsibility for the false election fraud 163 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: claims at the hearthst suit were other Fox hosts and commentators. 164 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: According to people familiar with the matter, in the message 165 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: In the messages released in the legal proceedings, mister Carlson 166 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: voice skepticism about Sidney Powell, the primary purveyor of the 167 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory that Dominion's technology helps steal the election from 168 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: mister Trump, given that, mister Carlson felt the narrative and 169 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 1: press coverage should have been different and let Fox executives 170 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: know of his displeasure, the people said. The Dominion court 171 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: filings are filled with examples of him disparaging colleagues, from 172 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: calling for the firing of a Fox News reporter for 173 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: fact checking mister Trump's false claims about the twenty twenty election, 174 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: to complaining about the network's news coverage, including the decision 175 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: to call Arizona for mister Biden on election night. Inside 176 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: of Fox News, there has been a growing sense that 177 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: mister Carlson couldn't be managed, and viewed himself as untouchable, 178 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: people familiar with the company said. Legal documents also revealed 179 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: mister Carlson was unafraid to run basically attacks on the 180 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: for those whose views or actions he didn't like. Although 181 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: mister Carlson had spent much of the COVID nineteen era 182 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: doing his show out of his main home, joking recently 183 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: in a Heritage Foundation speech over the weekend that he 184 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: hadn't been in an elevator for three years, his presence 185 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: still loomed large inside and outside the network's New York headquarters. 186 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: Protesters frequently gathered in front of the building, carrying cardboard 187 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: cutouts of his head, sometimes with an X over it. 188 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: A door were the most recent incendiary quotes in the 189 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: dominion case Discovery mister Carlson's fall from grace in the 190 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: eyes of the Murdocks was swift. Just a few weeks ago, 191 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: Rupert Murdoch invited mister Carlson to his bel Air, California 192 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: home to dine with his en fiance, Anne Leslie Smith, 193 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: the coining of appep. Familiar with the gathering, Miss Smith couldn't 194 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: be reached for comment. Mister Carlson and had bonded somewhat 195 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: with the executive chairman Fox News executive chairman, the Younger Murdoch, 196 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: Rupert Murdock's son, with whom he shared a love of 197 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: the outdoors and conservative politics, according to people familiar with 198 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: the matter, but it was the younger son, in consultation 199 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: with Fox News chief executive Suzanne Scott, who made the 200 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: decision to oust mister Carlson, The Journal reported on Monday. 201 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: San Francisco native mister Carlson, fifty three, joined Fox News 202 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: as a contributor in two. 203 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: Thousand and nine. 204 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: Just so you know the backstory on his employment there, 205 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: He rose to get his own show in twenty sixteen, 206 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: eventually landed the eight pm time slot. His past career 207 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: included tours of both CNN and MSNBC, as well as 208 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: an enterprisal stint as the co founder of The Daily Caller, 209 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: the conservative web publication that aimed to injected dose of 210 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: original reporting into the commentary heavy center right media ecosystem. 211 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: The Wall Street. 212 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 1: Journal says, besides his nightly presence on Fox News, Miss 213 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: Carlson was also prominent on Fox Nation, the newschannel's direct 214 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: to streaming service, on which his content was essentially an 215 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: unplugged version of his daily show. In November, he aired 216 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:26,479 Speaker 1: a three part special called Patriot Purge that inaccurately suggested 217 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: the January sixth, twenty twenty one riot at the host 218 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: Capitol was a plot of extreme left wing groups. And 219 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: then even the FBI played a part that programs at 220 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: the stage. For a March broadcast on his Fox News show, suggesting, 221 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: using video provided to him by speaker Kevin McCarthy, that 222 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: the attack wasn't nearly as violent as the media had suggested, 223 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: was heavily criticized by lawmakers on both sides of the isle. 224 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: While mister Carlton Start Carlson Tonight was popular, it was 225 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: also repellent to blue chip averageers. And by the way, 226 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: let's be clear, blue chip advertisers have left conservative media 227 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: long ago. I've talked about this several times on the show. 228 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: Blue chip advertisers will not advertise now on conservative talk radio. 229 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: They will not advertise in the same way on TV 230 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: with conservative TV. They are bigots, and their liberal boards 231 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: are bigots, and they hate conservatives and they want to 232 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: destroy conservatives. 233 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: Make no mistake about that. 234 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: The idea that Tuger Carlson couldn't get advertiser is also 235 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: just completely ridiculous. He absolutely had advertisers and brought in 236 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: plenty of money to pay his twenty million dollar or 237 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: whatever it is a year salary, depending on which report 238 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: you believe. Now, how much money would I be making 239 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: right now and others if we had the same ability 240 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: to get advertisers as liberals like on MSNBC, we would 241 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: all make millions of dollars compared to what we make. 242 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: That's how big of a difference it is. 243 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: It is very hard to make make a good living 244 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: and conservative medium now because there are so many different 245 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: advertisers that won't even talk to you, regardless of how 246 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: big your audience is. 247 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: So to imply somehow that Tucker Carlson had. 248 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: Like not as many Okay, like that his was, like, 249 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, completely banned and boycotted, not true. I just 250 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: want to be clear about that. You could write this 251 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: about everybody, Okay, you really could. You could write this 252 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: about anybody. 253 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: I I this. 254 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: There is certainly some propaganda in this. It's the Wall 255 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: Street Journal that's owned by news Court, but it's also 256 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: giving some insight into what happened with Tucker Carlson. At 257 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: the end, I'm not saying that I support any of it, 258 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: believe in any of it. I'm just giving you the 259 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: news and this is the probably the most accurate synopsis 260 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: of what actually happened at the very end. All right, 261 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to go back to this article from the 262 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: Watreet Journalist as quote. While mister Carlson's Tuger Carlson Tonight 263 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: was pop, it was also repellent to blue chip advertisers. 264 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: Top tier marketers tend to steer clear of content they 265 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: deemed too controversy on the show, with sometimes a target 266 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: of advertiser boycotts. Every successful show at Fox, by the way, 267 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: is boycotted. The left will come after you. Different groups 268 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: will come after you, just so you understand, and they'll 269 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: do anything they can to try to destroy or hurt you, 270 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: you personally. This is what happens. This happened a long 271 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: time ago actually, when Glenn Beck was very effective in 272 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: his show and it got to the point where they 273 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: had boycotted him so successfully that they couldn't make money 274 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: off of the show at Fox, and then he left. 275 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: They do this and they try to do this with podcasts. 276 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: I've been targeted. They tried to do it with the 277 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: radio show. I know I've been targeted multiple times over 278 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: the years, these liberal groups that get money from big 279 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: Democratic donors, and that all they try to do is 280 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: drum up hate towards you and your brand, and they 281 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: go out the advertisers and they try to basically blackmail 282 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: them into submission to stop advertising on your show. It 283 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: has destroyed the ability for conservative talk radio and conservative 284 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: media to make real money like you could do twenty 285 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: years ago mainstream brands. I can't tell you how much money. 286 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: I'll go go go back to Limbaugh. For example, there 287 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: was a time when Limbaugh's advertisers were the biggest of 288 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: the biggest. They were you know, major insurance companies, they 289 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: were major car companies. They were major advertisers like John 290 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: Deere and All State and State Farm, like the same 291 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: stuff you see on the nightly news are in during 292 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 1: football game commercials, basketball game commercials. 293 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: The biggest of the biggest. 294 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 1: It was just, look, he's got a massive audience as 295 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: a conservative group, people with high net worth, high income. 296 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 2: We want advertise to that group. People you bought Russe Limbaugh. 297 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: Then Democrats got smart and they organized, I say got 298 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: smart it's pure evil, it's anti American, it's anti freedom. 299 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: But this was their thing there. 300 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: All right, let's start just attacking him every day, and 301 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: let's write these nasty articles about him, and all we're 302 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: gonna do is then get a bunch of liberals to 303 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: go to those advertisers demanding, okay, demanding that they silenced them, right, 304 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: demanding that you shut it down, demanding that you that 305 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: you don't advertise with him anymore. And eventually it started 306 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: to work and it became the norm. The amount of 307 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: hundreds of millions is probably what it cost Rustling Bass 308 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: radio show, because then you had to go to direct 309 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: to you know. And this is how companies like my 310 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: pillow got created because there was such a void of 311 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: advertisers that you could build companies around advertising conservati talk 312 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: radio because you could get a better deal. And it's 313 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: really sad, but that's the that's the reality. Look at 314 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: the advertisers on Fox News Show during the commercial breaks 315 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: compared to that of CNBC, of MSNBC, of CNN. 316 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: It's night and day different night and day. 317 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: You had the biggest advertisers on CNN even when their 318 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: ratings sucked, because that was considered a safe audience. It's 319 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: hardcore leftists, anti American rhetoric. They didn't care because the 320 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: woke left of these companies, that's what they would do. 321 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: Back to the article, top tier marketers tend to steer 322 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: clear of content they deem too controversial. On the show 323 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: was sometimes the target of advertiser boycotts. As advertisers have 324 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: fled prime time, some have shifted to airing commercials on Fox. 325 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: At other times, Mister Carlson's shows filled the most the void, 326 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: mostly with ads from direct response advertisers and My Pillow Inc. 327 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: The Pillow manufactured commercials star CEO Mike Lindell, who's also 328 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: appears a guest on Tiger Carlston to Night and was 329 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: one of the most prominent people spraying the false election 330 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: fraud narrative. Direct response advertisers typically or smaller businesses whose 331 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: ads encourage people to take actions such as ca calling 332 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: a toll free number. The lack of advertiser demand meant 333 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: the commercials in many cases weren't being sold at a 334 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: premium order rate that would connect with the audience size, 335 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: which meant it wasn't providing a financial windfall to the network. 336 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: People familiar with the network's operations said as of late 337 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: mister Carlton ratings ratings popularity on the network were surpassed 338 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: by the afternoon panel show The Five. The popularity of 339 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 1: mister Carlton's show, along with other Fox News programs, continued 340 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: to give the network leverage when negotiating distribution deals with 341 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: cable and satellite operators to carry the channel. Fox News 342 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: cost those providers about two dollars a month for a subscriber, 343 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: so if you have one of their boxes in your house, 344 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: two dollars of what you're paying for cables going to Fox. 345 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: According to industry estimates, over the next two years, Fox 346 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: News will be renegotiating deals with major with most major distributors. 347 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: The dominion court filing were hardly the first time that 348 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: the momentator's take on other personalities at the network was 349 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: on display. In twenty nineteen, mister Carlson attack then Fox 350 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: News anchored Shepherd Smith on air for a show mister 351 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: Smith had done in which Fox News contributor Judge Andrew 352 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: Nepolotanos said mister Trump had been guilty of criminal behavior. 353 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: Mister Carlton and mister Smith traded barbs at each other 354 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: on their respected shows, with mister Smith calling mister Carlson's 355 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: criticism mister. 356 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: Repugnant. 357 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: Shepherd Smith left Fox News soon after that tiff with Tucker. 358 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: Shepherd Smith didn't respond to requests for comment from The 359 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal for this newest article. Fox News founding 360 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: chairman and CEO Roger Ayles, who was forced out in 361 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen after numerous allegations of sexual harassment that he denied, 362 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: was known for being able to manage the larger than 363 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: life personalities of some of the on air talent. Mister Ales, 364 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: who died in seventeen, made sure that there was no 365 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,959 Speaker 1: shooting inside the tent. People who worked under him have said. 366 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: In mister L's absence, longtime Fox News insiders lament the 367 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: talent often seem to get their way, and that producers 368 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 1: and executives who ever see their shows are reluctant to 369 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 1: challenge them or use a heavy hand to rain them in. 370 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: Fox News could suffer some rating decline should some of 371 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: mister Carlson's audience leave with him, or if his replacement 372 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: isn't as big of a draw. On Monday Night, the 373 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: morning show anchor Brian kill Me to filling in the 374 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: show drew two point six million viewers, according to Nielsen. 375 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: That beat rival news channels, but it's smaller than Carlson's 376 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: usual audience by almost a million. By the way, other 377 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: big name Fox Who's anchors, including Bill O'Reilly, Megan Kelly, 378 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: and Glenn Back, have left without harming Fox News' ratings overall. 379 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: Some of them have gone on to a chief financial 380 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: success with new media ventures. Mister Raley makes nearly thirty 381 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: million a year and Miss Kelly will make well into 382 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: eight figures. People familiar with their finances have said inside 383 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: the network, the mantra among executs is that no one 384 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: personality is bigger than the brand. History would show that 385 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: the talent needs Fox more than Fox needs any particular talent, 386 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: said Jonathan Klein, a former scene in president. Which is 387 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: just funny that they're asking CNN to comment on Fox 388 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: and a former scene and employee that got the living 389 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: crap beat out of him by Fox. You have to 390 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: laugh about that one, just a little bit, don't you. 391 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: There's also something else that very interesting that happened, and 392 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: that is Bill O'Reilly. It's Bill O'Reilly, who had been 393 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: fired from Fox before, who was replaced by Tucker Carlson 394 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: had this to say yesterday on his Ospins show Zone Listen. 395 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: This was a shock to Tucker Carlson and his staff 396 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 3: this morning. They were putting together tonight, Monday Night's program. 397 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 3: They were actively involved with making the rundown, as all 398 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 3: of us do. Who go on television each night to 399 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 3: talk to you In the middle of that boom, Tucker 400 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 3: Carlson his history at the Fox News Show. That's how 401 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 3: fast it came. Nobody knew and that's in stone. Okay, 402 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 3: that's not speculation. So what was the decision making process? 403 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 3: There are a number of things in play. First of all, 404 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 3: if you watched sixty Minutes last night, you saw a 405 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 3: man named Ray Epps, right tell the audience that Tucker 406 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 3: Carlson ruined his life. I'm going to deal with mister 407 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 3: Epps in the final thought of today's broadcast. But that 408 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 3: was a pretty strong assertion on sixty minutes. And when 409 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 3: I saw it, I said, oh, here comes a lawsuit 410 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 3: against Tucker Carlson and Fox News from Ray Epps. If 411 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 3: you don't if that name isn't familiar, Mister Carlson hypothesized 412 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 3: that he was involved with staging the January sixth Riot. 413 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: All right, that's a very shorthand. Vergion f of course 414 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 3: denies any of that. He was there, but he says 415 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 3: he wasn't an undercover FBI agent or whatever other stuff 416 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 3: was floating around. Again. I'll get to that at the 417 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 3: end of the program. Number one, number two. There are 418 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: a number of lawsuits going to be filed shortly against 419 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 3: Fox News board of directors, people who sit on the board, okay, 420 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 3: by shareholders, people who own the stock. And by the way, 421 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: Fox News stock was down big today, Okay, so FNC 422 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 3: is aware those lawsuits are coming. And the board of 423 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: directors themselves, the individuals sitting on the board, Okay, you're 424 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 3: gonna have to they're gonna to defend themselves. That's big. 425 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 3: And then Smart Mattic, which I don't think is a 426 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 3: very important lawsuits since the smart Mata company only had 427 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: one county in the twenty twenty election where their machines 428 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 3: were used. So they're suing for two point six billionaire 429 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: that's just InSync. They'll settle, I believe, with Fox, but 430 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: for not nearly what the menion got. But that's an 431 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 3: opinion of mine, all right, But the fact is this 432 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: litigation against Fox News is ongoing and destructive. Tucker Carlson 433 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 3: is the lightning rod. Okay, so an interesting piece of history. 434 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 3: When I left six years ago, the Factor was averaging 435 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: close to four million viewers at eight o'clock and another 436 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: two at eleven o'clock for our rerun at six million people. Right, 437 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 3: no cable program has approached that, all right since I left, 438 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 3: because that's a pretty lofty number. Carlson took over for me. 439 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: In the first two years, he lost about a million 440 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 3: of my viewers. Okay, he was doing around three to 441 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: eight two million, eight hundred thousand. Then he made a 442 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 3: very shrewd decision. And Tucker Carlson himself is a smart 443 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 3: man and a talented broadcaster. Anybody who thinks he isn't 444 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: is a fool. I mean, he knows what he's doing 445 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 3: on television. So he decided to go to get viewers 446 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: from the committed right, all right, a lot like Rush 447 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 3: Limbaugh did. And he went into that precinct and he 448 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: programmed for those Americans. His base was about three million people, 449 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: which in this day and age puts him ahead of 450 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 3: most other cable news outfits. Okay, so, but in doing that, 451 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 3: his commentary became in many cases conspiratorial. And again, you 452 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 3: can make a lot of money doing that, and there's 453 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 3: nothing wrong with doing that as long as you tell 454 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 3: people this is my opinion. It's speculation. But this is 455 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 3: what I think is not wrong with that. I don't 456 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 3: disparage that. I'm a hard news guy. My opinions are 457 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 3: based on facts. But the conspiracy industry is huge. Russian collusion, 458 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: I mean, that was insane. And every news organization except 459 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 3: Fox embraced that conspiracy, did they not. 460 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: It's an interesting take from Bill O'Reilly. There also. 461 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: Mayor Pete doubling down on his request of twenty million 462 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: in taxpayer funding for female crash dummies to be more inclusive. 463 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: It's a woke priority. It's going to cost you twenty 464 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: million dollars. 465 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: I don't think it's woke to build good infrastructure. I 466 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 4: just saw Fox News taking a run of me for 467 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 4: the work that we're doing on a safety including the 468 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 4: use of crash test dummies that simulate men, women, and children. 469 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 4: And somehow this is considered a woke priority to have 470 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 4: female crash test stummies, even though not something that's been 471 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 4: around for a very long time. 472 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: We have crash test stummies by the way, that are 473 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: like just look like humans. He wants them to look 474 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: like women. It's going to cost you twenty million dollars 475 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: twenty million. 476 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: Dollars to do that. 477 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: Just to put it in perspective, how insane these people are. 478 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: Please share this podcast with your family and friends. Please 479 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: make sure you write us a five star review wherever 480 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 1: you're listening to this podcast, so that will help us 481 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: reach more people. 482 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: And we will see you back here tomorrow.