WEBVTT - Paternity w/ Isabel Gillies

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies. These episodes are based on.

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<v Speaker 1>These are our stories.

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<v Speaker 3>Dune done.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, it's that's messed up? An SVU podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Liza Trigger and I as always am Kara Klank

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys hopefully should know the drill. We talk

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<v Speaker 1>about an episode of Law and Order, sview a true

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<v Speaker 1>crime that is based on and interview an awesome celebrity

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<v Speaker 1>guest from the episode. And today is our one hundred episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I forgot. That was a truly surprise. I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>so excited.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't believe, Like surprise, Lisa.

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't believe we've done a hundred fucking episodes.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe we've talked to one hundred people I

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<v Speaker 2>know and a hundred crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>And one hundred crimes even more because sometimes we do

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<v Speaker 1>two crimes, Oh my god, and yeah, and it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like yesterday, like I still talk to people, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like it's kind of new, like it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>new podcast, but it's like we've been going on for like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like almost two years in a couple of Like

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<v Speaker 1>we started in October recording, but the first episodes didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come out until December.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, you know what, And the first crime we did

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<v Speaker 2>is Leona Hemsley. And I didn't post these photos. I

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<v Speaker 2>forgot because I had my Central Park photos that I

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<v Speaker 2>loved so much laying on the ground.

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<v Speaker 4>But I there's Hemsley buildings in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you're doing a lot of poses next

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<v Speaker 2>to all the Hemsley's everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Where you like, send out the dog. I was just

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<v Speaker 4>reminiscing about her. Trouble Dog's name was Trouble. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>just that's very cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I recorded in so many different places, which is

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<v Speaker 2>wild and situations and different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really yeah, And like I thought, I I thought, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the back of my mind, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if I'll get bored just like asking people

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<v Speaker 1>about their s F experience.

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<v Speaker 4>But like I haven't at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Like everyone we've talked to, I feel like has been

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and has had something different to say. And I

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<v Speaker 1>like love everyone that we've talked to on this pod.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess there's probably one or two that

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<v Speaker 1>weren't my shape, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm here the name names.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not gonna name names, but like, obviously you guys

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<v Speaker 2>have favorites and not favorites too. Listen, there's some dishes. No,

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<v Speaker 2>No one was like, I don't think so, but no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been very exciting and I like meeting everyone. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just cool to be in people's days, you know, it's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like people listen as they do their laundry or

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<v Speaker 2>do the dishes, or commuting or working out or like

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<v Speaker 2>doing their makeup, and so it's like very cool to

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<v Speaker 2>be in people's lives, routines, in their ears.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it feels cool and not to be annoying. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is my job to tell you guys. But I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to be in your life even more when we

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<v Speaker 1>come to your city on tour.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode is wide releasing on November first, which means

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<v Speaker 1>you've still got two weeks or so to get tickets

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<v Speaker 1>for our Midwestern run of our tour. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in Rosemont, Illinois, which is right outside of Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>on eleven thirteen, Chicago at Zany's on eleven fourteen, Indianapolis

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<v Speaker 1>on the fifteenth, Columbus on the sixteenth, Cleveland on the seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit on the eighteenth, and Madison on the twentieth. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>come see us, and I think on the nineteenth are

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<v Speaker 1>we going to stand up in Madison or in Detroit? Girl,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know. Well, we're doing stand up at

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<v Speaker 1>one of those places.

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<v Speaker 2>So come see us do stand.

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<v Speaker 3>Up to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And of course in December, we're gonna be in Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa on the first, Miami on the third, and Orlando

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<v Speaker 1>on the thirtieth of November. Sorry, I forgot about that

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<v Speaker 1>Orlando date because it's kind of hanging off the edge

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<v Speaker 1>of November there.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, we're going to stay an umer day and

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<v Speaker 2>like go to Universal Studios. Probably not, oh man, I

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<v Speaker 2>would love to, or like i'd even go to like

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<v Speaker 2>Bush Gardens.

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<v Speaker 1>I fucking love amusement parks.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's go to a chiller one. I don't need

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<v Speaker 2>to go to a popular one. The less people the

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<v Speaker 2>better for me. What is Bush Gardens. I've never heard

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I forget. It's a big Florida No, it's a I

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<v Speaker 1>might have animals, but it's a big Florida amusement park.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll look into where I've been to it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was in Saint Petersburg. I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I will find out and we can maybe go because

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<v Speaker 1>I love amusement parks. But yeah, we love you guys

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<v Speaker 1>so much. We really love meeting people on our tours.

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<v Speaker 1>We meet and greet like everybody afterwards, and we.

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<v Speaker 4>Have exclusive merch for a tour only.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love sellar. Yeah, we sell cool merch that's

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<v Speaker 1>only for SA on the tours. So yeah, even if

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<v Speaker 1>you're coming by yourself, people are always like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have anyone to go with me. Everybody makes a friend

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<v Speaker 1>when they come to the show. So many people come alone,

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<v Speaker 1>they always meet other people that listen. At the very least,

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<v Speaker 1>you have our podcast in common. You can just sit

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<v Speaker 1>and have a drink and watch our podcast together. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the end of my selling speech. I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you the other day about the newest one of

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<v Speaker 1>the newer episodes I have many times on this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that one of my most haunting episodes is Nicole

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<v Speaker 1>Sullivan from Mad TV, like being raped on a subway

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<v Speaker 1>car while many people are watching, and it's like so

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<v Speaker 1>horrific to me and then one of the recent episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of SVU, they just did it again in season twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>They just had this sixteen year old girl get assaulted

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<v Speaker 1>in front of her entire family while by gang members

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<v Speaker 1>with a machete, and then the dad gets like attacked

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<v Speaker 1>as well with the machete.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you guys are bringing me back to

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<v Speaker 1>that episode and I didn't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was intense, the machete being with the family.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine. It's was a lot. It was a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I just like, I agree with what you were telling

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<v Speaker 1>me the other day, Like it's just feels like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a seriousness and like a heaviness And not that not

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<v Speaker 1>that the show's subject matter does not deserve seriousness and heaviness.

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<v Speaker 4>It is the most serious and heavy subject matter, But.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what the reason one of the reasons we

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<v Speaker 1>love the first like twelve or so seasons so much

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<v Speaker 1>is because like Munch brought some levity, ic t brought

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<v Speaker 1>some levity, Like there was a little bit of humor

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<v Speaker 1>in it, and like.

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<v Speaker 4>Craigan had little clips like yeah, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like Benson's just like fighting the world constantly

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<v Speaker 2>and these bad bosses and these horrific heavy things like

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<v Speaker 2>you said, and it's like there just used to be

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<v Speaker 2>a little comedy banter and a little spirit and funny

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<v Speaker 2>lines and silly headlines and shit like that, and like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm missing the humor. It's just like because like

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<v Speaker 2>silly websites, like you know, just things that were like

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<v Speaker 2>when you see us on tour.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, this isn't totally unrelated.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we do a lot of we do mostly episodes

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<v Speaker 1>from the first twelve seasons. Those we only do because

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<v Speaker 1>they're the most fun to kind of like they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>the only ones that have like a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>camp to them that we can make fun of on

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<v Speaker 1>like when we do the live show, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>some people have been asking, they're like, are you guys

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<v Speaker 1>going to cover these on the podcast? And just to

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<v Speaker 1>let you know, our live shows are always not based

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<v Speaker 1>on crimes. They're the ones that are not based on crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>And they although a few of them I've gone back

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<v Speaker 1>to look at and they are so maybe we will

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<v Speaker 1>do a couple of them, but not what you see

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<v Speaker 1>at the live show. Because the live show has PowerPoint,

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<v Speaker 1>has all this visual stuff we show clips, we bring

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<v Speaker 1>people up on stage, we can't get like releases for

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<v Speaker 1>these people. Releases for these clips we can't show, so

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<v Speaker 1>we and it wouldn't make any sense to just listen

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<v Speaker 1>to it. So unfortunately, the live show is a singular

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<v Speaker 1>experience and we will not be able to release them

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere except when we do live streams. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just like feel like I'm really missing Munch these days,

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<v Speaker 1>like just someone who's like a conspiracy theorist or as

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<v Speaker 1>something funny going on. It's like like Amanda Rollin's like

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<v Speaker 1>rethinking every choice she's made in her life, or like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even her relationship with Kreese seems like heavy,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's just there's no there's all that much lightness.

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<v Speaker 1>I love to see a little bit more lightness on

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<v Speaker 1>the show, just little DIBs and dabs. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>makes it so you don't walk away from everyone being

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<v Speaker 1>like every episode being like that was horrific because the

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<v Speaker 1>world is doing enough of that already, right And.

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<v Speaker 2>When we were talking, I said, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>credit Neil Bear, this might that might be a Neil

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<v Speaker 2>Bear signature, Hutch, because maybe that's the Warren light vibe

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<v Speaker 2>is here. I don't know what it is, but I

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<v Speaker 2>do credit Neil Bear a little bit to the little

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<v Speaker 2>nod the Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, like, but Marishka is also like an

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<v Speaker 1>EP on the show, so like you think that she

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<v Speaker 1>has like some say of that.

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<v Speaker 4>And everyone she's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly like ninety five out of one hundred guests or

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<v Speaker 1>like she's so funny. So I'm just like, yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to the I guess we talked to Mrshca One

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<v Speaker 1>day we'll get to ask.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we can't tell her the show you see funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go, what.

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<v Speaker 4>Happened to a funny vibe?

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<v Speaker 1>Girl? When did things get so serious? I'm gonna go,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's the thing they were able, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>you said joker.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was talking to someone and we were talking tattoos,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I was saying how I would love hand tattoos.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's like so cool, but I would never

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<v Speaker 4>do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And someone was like, oh, yeah, my friend has the

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<v Speaker 2>Joker face on his hand, like on the what's.

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<v Speaker 1>This part called yeah, yeah upper.

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<v Speaker 2>D yeah, and it's like the jokers smile, and I go,

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<v Speaker 2>that's disgusting. He'll never get a date ever in his

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<v Speaker 2>life and he goes, WHOA, he is single. I go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's like the international sign of like no one will

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<v Speaker 2>fuck you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he said his friend in cell calling card.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he said.

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<v Speaker 2>His friend is fifty and single and has never really

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<v Speaker 2>been in a relationship and can't figure it out. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, and I'm sure this joker hand

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<v Speaker 2>tattoo is not helping.

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<v Speaker 4>Do an experiment and wear a glove on a date.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, it obviously infiltrates the personality, like you're just

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get the joker on your hand, you know. But

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if people when they see me around how

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<v Speaker 2>chili prepper tattoo, if they kind of assume something about

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<v Speaker 2>me that is real or not?

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<v Speaker 4>Like I wonder totally.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what's funny is like my brother Colin,

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<v Speaker 1>who you've met, who is like not He's like a

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<v Speaker 1>funny gay man, like not an inceel at all. Like

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<v Speaker 1>was obsessed with the heath Ledger joker. Like the heath

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<v Speaker 1>Ledger Joker. He had like a poster of it in

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<v Speaker 1>his room. Like he was so in that way different

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like it's changed, right, heath.

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<v Speaker 2>Ledger was something special and like I didn't even watch it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I feel like it's the Joaquin Joker.

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<v Speaker 4>Everyone's talk.

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<v Speaker 2>You're talking, it's like a stand up comic who's depressed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, yeah, this is depressed women, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand, you know, it's not getting fucked Kathy

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<v Speaker 2>the comic and she just eats cheetahs. Like it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's crazy what these men. These men cannot handle it.

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<v Speaker 2>They just really can't. Oh my god. I had like

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<v Speaker 2>a cool moment, you know, I think I was telling

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<v Speaker 2>you this, but at a comedy club, like a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of wo were hanging out outside and this guy was

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<v Speaker 2>just like flipping out about something, just like like really

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<v Speaker 2>flipping out. And then he said two women told him

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<v Speaker 2>to like relax, and he was like, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>women just go off of their emotions. And then I calmly,

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<v Speaker 2>have never been so calm in my Life's just like,

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<v Speaker 2>seems like you're pretty emotional right now. And he couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>even handle it or admit that he was being emotional.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just like, I'm just explaining, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Like I'm just explaining and it's like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>in an angry tone. And then he goes, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>I can't here, and like you just got to protect

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<v Speaker 2>your own and it was like I'm not protecting, but

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<v Speaker 2>just admit, like, simmer down, bitch. They say that this

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<v Speaker 2>isn't an original thought, but like men think anger isn't

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<v Speaker 2>an emotion, they like call women emotional and then they're

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<v Speaker 2>just starting wars.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you think emotional is only crying? They do,

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<v Speaker 1>like they do.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't think punching a hole in a wall is

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<v Speaker 2>being emotional.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And this guy was like truly yelly.

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<v Speaker 2>Like twelve other people were hanging out in silence as

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<v Speaker 2>this dude was like flipping out about something and he

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<v Speaker 2>was just like I'm just explaining, like I'm just passionate.

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<v Speaker 2>You would know if I'm mad. And it's like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I see you all the time. You are really mad

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. Like you you are very emotional.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, wait, can we please explain the video

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<v Speaker 1>that you sent me this tweet yesterday? But then today

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<v Speaker 1>I see retweeted it, so I think it's like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of going viral like this guy. There was this like

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<v Speaker 1>funny moment on like the People's Court where this guy

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<v Speaker 1>is talking to the judge and being like, I, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't be happy with women or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and the judge says, like, I don't know, he's happy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been married twenty years and points to this like

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<v Speaker 1>really jacked bailiff who's there. And they have this funny

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<v Speaker 1>conversation and the guy goes, I don't know, you look angry,

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't look happy, and then they like, everyone funny,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a funny haha People's Court moment. Everyone's laughing, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they cut to news footage of this bailiff known

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<v Speaker 1>for the People's Court a suspect in his wife's murder,

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<v Speaker 1>like so wild, Like I'm going to retweet it on

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<v Speaker 1>our account from uh from ice so everyone knows what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>But fuck that was I was like, where's this going?

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<v Speaker 2>I tweet the one that I sent you the caption

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<v Speaker 2>whoever reposted it wrote that escalated quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>The bailiff was going to like jump and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>hit the guy. I thought it was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the court room, like I ever thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>going to escalate to like and you know, I see

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<v Speaker 2>who's chill as fuck on the internet. Was like this

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<v Speaker 2>is wild crazy, like His caption is like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I love as damn you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I think would be I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>this before we leave, just like the way I just

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<v Speaker 1>said joker and you like had a story for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it would be funny to do a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>with you where I just come in with like five

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<v Speaker 1>six random words prepared every week and we see where

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<v Speaker 1>you go with them. I really think it would be

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<v Speaker 1>so funny to just come in and be like Corvette

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<v Speaker 1>and then you just like.

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<v Speaker 2>Are like, oh no, I actually have a story about that.

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<v Speaker 2>But the joker wasn't even like how did you get there?

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<v Speaker 1>The word is equal to oh, yes, that was an

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<v Speaker 1>easy one. Yeah that was.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes it's like, but I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Been in a Corvette and can I just say the

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<v Speaker 2>leg room is nice, really nice? Like I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I get it, you know, like it felt nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like being that close to the street like

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<v Speaker 1>with these like low to the ground like sports cars.

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<v Speaker 4>I like being high up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my god, you know who I want to

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<v Speaker 2>shout out, don our fucking mechanic. I mean his name's

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<v Speaker 2>not Don, it's Don's auto shop. His dad bought it.

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<v Speaker 2>He works there and the best customer service I ever

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<v Speaker 2>ever got in anywhere. He knows, he knows everyone's don's

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<v Speaker 2>I walk in, he goes Lisa right away, and then

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<v Speaker 2>so the next person came in, knew her name, knows everything,

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<v Speaker 2>like so nice, always a good banter, like I love

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<v Speaker 2>dropping my car off, I hate doing errands.

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<v Speaker 1>They actually couldn't do something for me one time and

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<v Speaker 1>sent me to another.

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<v Speaker 2>Guy who gave me like a really good price.

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<v Speaker 1>And because I was like, oh he sent me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like very neighborhoody shit.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason I thought of him because he has

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<v Speaker 2>three cars, two he doesn't drive and one he does,

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<v Speaker 2>so he has a sport like a racing car, his baby,

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<v Speaker 2>and then his Audi that he uses.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, I got it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well we should also I thought you were going

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere different with that. Thank you, But we should also

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<v Speaker 1>thank our producer, Casey. Casey, it's our one hundredth episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for thanking our great producer and everybody at

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right, thanks for a hundred episodes.

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<v Speaker 4>Should we shout out On a Lease they've been a

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<v Speaker 4>part of On a Lease are amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Hannah at the beginning we've had an We've

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<v Speaker 1>had an amazing list of great are We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>great booker named Patrick. Guys, everybody at exactly right is

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<v Speaker 1>awesome some and we are psyched to be here and

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<v Speaker 1>passing our one hundredth milestone, and we hope to be

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<v Speaker 1>here for our five hundredth episode because as view just

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<v Speaker 1>has to keep going or we won't be able to wait.

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<v Speaker 2>But we should say some sort of memories from our

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred I guess this is a big deal. We're

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<v Speaker 2>like talking about bailiffs murdering their wives, like we should.

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<v Speaker 2>We should talk about something with us.

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<v Speaker 4>I also like our merch. It's cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we have new merch coming who knows when

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<v Speaker 1>they already dropped.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully by the time you hear this, I hope you've

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<v Speaker 2>seen that we have new merch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hopefully. We don't know the waiting, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Trying to get it in for the holiday season.

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<v Speaker 1>We're part of, oh yeah, it'll be in for holidays,

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<v Speaker 1>but this comes out like November first. I don't be

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<v Speaker 1>ready by then, but it'll be down for holidays for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that's messed up. Live dot Com is our tour, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Come see us, come help us celebrate one hundred amazing episodes.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have like a favorite interview, Like no, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think about Helen Shaver a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the director. I really liked her.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I whenever I brag about guests, like

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm out in a bout with like just socializing,

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<v Speaker 2>I always say, lou Diamond Phillips, that's where.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye start you do. He is your baseline brag. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always like, we got Y Cleft because he was so

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<v Speaker 1>huge for like my college music life.

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<v Speaker 2>But and then I go to the cast, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I say, we've got Beady Wonk. But I depending on

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<v Speaker 2>who I'm talking to you, it's like the actor's name

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<v Speaker 2>or the characters. But if it's an I'm like, we

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<v Speaker 2>got Craigan, Yeah, we got Novack, we got Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 2>think Bert Trevor was the most like I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>You're just the hottest person ever, so hot. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like Andy Powers I was very smitten for that was

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<v Speaker 2>like an exciting one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you loved Andy Powers, That's true. I really love

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<v Speaker 1>Jacqueline Smith gorgeous, a woman who has never done a podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting looking beautiful in her in her California.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a few first podcasters on yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Karen Lee we just had it was her first podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Delaney Williams had never done a podcast, so we're breaking

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<v Speaker 1>them in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and hopefully they'll keep on coming. I mean Marcia

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<v Speaker 2>gay Harden. I remember when she was booked. That was

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<v Speaker 2>that was a moment for us.

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<v Speaker 1>It was hard to continue from there. We just like

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<v Speaker 1>came out of the gate almost with an Oscar winner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and even right away, I feel like we we

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<v Speaker 2>were good.

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<v Speaker 1>We were challenge.

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<v Speaker 4>Well yeah, congratulations too.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, me and you like us like we I love us.

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<v Speaker 4>Our dynamic, our virgo dynamic.

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<v Speaker 1>It works, Yeah, the opposite sides of some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>wild virgo spectrum.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I like Jeffrey Kobert. That's how.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you say we love.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Like I feel like I was transfixed with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, meditate, okay, I'll rub a horse.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Missy Pile, I was like best friends with

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<v Speaker 1>Missy Pyle. I keep I'm like I'm going to DM

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<v Speaker 1>her and be like you want to get dinner. I tried.

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<v Speaker 2>I did try to dm did you say I tried

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<v Speaker 2>to do a group chat. I don't think she responded, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>she never.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she's on there very much. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we tried to just tell her, hey, everybody loves

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<v Speaker 1>your interview, and she was just like not.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know if she's on very much. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Mark first. I mean that's newer, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>like freshman head. But like we said, it's one hundred episodes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like tough to even put them all together. It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but let's let's dive into the episode because I

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<v Speaker 1>will say I love our guest today. We had an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing today, huge hundred of guests. I think for us

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<v Speaker 1>we loved talking to this person. You guys are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>love it. But let's get started with today's episode because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a fucking class seek and thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, we love you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Today we're doing Paternity season nine, episode nine, Brooklyn nine nine.

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<v Speaker 4>We open on.

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<v Speaker 2>All watching this, didn't remember anything. I was on the

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<v Speaker 2>ED Jimmy see like, I think it's and I started crying.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is like a William Lewis for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I avoided on purpose. Oh really, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like fully crying when the accident happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I was tearing up.

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<v Speaker 1>The accident is dramatic, and I think that, like I

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<v Speaker 1>always remember there being the accident, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the accident almost overshadows the rest of the plot of

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<v Speaker 1>the episode. That's why I was like, yeah, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, anyway, we'll get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, yeah, I didn't know anything. I saw the

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<v Speaker 2>mom I'm like, who is this woman? Like I just

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<v Speaker 2>really it's like I was watching it for.

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<v Speaker 1>The first time, which is sometimes can be fun, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not in this case. We open on a little

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<v Speaker 1>blonde bowl cut like bobbing and weaving down a Manhattan sidewalk.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little kid and there's a grown man chasing him,

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<v Speaker 1>telling him to stop, and it's like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just not the that's really not the way to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. If you're just like a man running after

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, you gotta be like Bobby stop, Like he

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<v Speaker 1>was just like stop, Like he seemed like a villain.

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<v Speaker 1>So right as he grabs the kid, they're in front

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<v Speaker 1>of this nice lady who's like, what's up sketchball? What

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<v Speaker 1>did you do to this kid? He's got blood all

0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:03.520
<v Speaker 1>over the front of him, And this is our cold

0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:05.760
<v Speaker 1>open moment, and so when the parent then we cut

0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:07.840
<v Speaker 1>to the paramedics checking him out. He actually has no

0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:10.920
<v Speaker 1>visible injuries, like he's covered in someone else's blood, which

0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:14.560
<v Speaker 1>is good news. Uh, but also, who was that guy?

0:21:15.680 --> 0:21:15.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was a guy. I honestly think he

0:21:18.119 --> 0:21:19.399
<v Speaker 1>was a guy that just saw a kid covered in

0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:21.840
<v Speaker 1>blood and was like, hey, kid, stop, let me help you, okay,

0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:26.120
<v Speaker 1>and like yeah, and then it looked very sketchy unfortunately, because.

0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:29.280
<v Speaker 4>Al yeah, like he even looks trustworthy.

0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I think they want you to think, like, what is

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<v Speaker 1>going on here? Yeah, but totally the gel helps with that.

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<v Speaker 1>So the paramedics, yeah, check him out, and Benson and

0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Stabler are there and they're like, yeah, like give us

0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:42.439
<v Speaker 1>the clothes, we're gonna run it for DNA. And they

0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:45.800
<v Speaker 1>asked the boy's name and he says Tommy. And we

0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:48.920
<v Speaker 1>have a listener named Christine. I think it's it's Christine s.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say her last name in case

0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:52.200
<v Speaker 1>she didn't want it. And she's been contacting us since

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of our podcast, and notice has always noticed

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<v Speaker 1>that there is an insane number of Tommy's in the

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<v Speaker 1>SVU universe, Like, and she made a list of them

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<v Speaker 1>and sent it to us, and there are thirty seven

0:22:04.160 --> 0:22:07.879
<v Speaker 1>characters on her list name Tommy. And it's wild because

0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:11.320
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I know, Dick Wolfe has kids named Elliott, Olivia, Serena,

0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and Rex who have all been characters in the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, does he have a dog named Tommy?

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<v Speaker 1>What's with the Tommy? There are a lot of Tommy's, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>this one is one of the cutest ones. He's in

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<v Speaker 1>competition with that other little boy, but like he is, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a very cute little Tommy McGrath's name is Tommy, Like,

0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's a lot of Tommy's. Anyway, they ask

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<v Speaker 1>him his mom's name and he says Mommy, And you know,

0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:38.240
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of proud because I'm like, Rosie is

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<v Speaker 1>also three years old, as is this child, and she

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<v Speaker 1>definitely knows her last name, and she knows her names

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<v Speaker 1>are Jared and Kraba because she calls us that all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. So if you asked her, she'd be like,

0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:50.639
<v Speaker 1>my dad is Jared Jared, Like she only says his

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<v Speaker 1>name in my tone of voice, like when I'm yelling

0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:57.679
<v Speaker 1>at it. It's really funny. But anyway, Tommy goes, I

0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:01.000
<v Speaker 1>want my daddy and leaps into Elliot's arm arms, something

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:03.040
<v Speaker 1>most of the internet would also love to do, I'm sure,

0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:05.479
<v Speaker 1>and Stabler's like, we're going to find him, and then

0:23:05.520 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 1>it's the credits. Okay, at the precinct, little Tommy is

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:14.640
<v Speaker 1>still baby Koala with Daddy Koala just like on top

0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:16.919
<v Speaker 1>of Elliott head on his shoulder. My kids will never

0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:18.600
<v Speaker 1>lay their heads on my shoulder, and I love it

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<v Speaker 1>so much, and they'll never do it because they're not chill.

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:23.600
<v Speaker 1>But I just really love when a kid just chills

0:23:23.640 --> 0:23:26.639
<v Speaker 1>on your shoulder with his head and Live is telling

0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:28.879
<v Speaker 1>Craigan what the deal is. She's like, he's been like

0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:30.680
<v Speaker 1>this for an hour. He will not let go of

0:23:30.800 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Daddy's Addie, Stabler, and then we've got Finn and Lake

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<v Speaker 1>on the case and they're like, nothing's popping up a

0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.919
<v Speaker 1>missing person's we're canvassing, but it's like we found him

0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:40.840
<v Speaker 1>on the Upper West Side. There's like six hundred apartments

0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:42.919
<v Speaker 1>around the block where he was found, and they're like,

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:44.760
<v Speaker 1>someone's got to know this kid, and they're like, what

0:23:44.800 --> 0:23:46.680
<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't live in that neighborhood. Maybe someone killed

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 1>his parents and dropped him off far from the crime scene.

0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Like there's spitballing ideas. Craigan's like, I'm going to call

0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:54.360
<v Speaker 1>in my connects at the local news station and get

0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Tommy's face out there and lives like why not make

0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:58.199
<v Speaker 1>it a live story and milk it? And it's like,

0:23:58.240 --> 0:23:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know what the point of that is.

0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I feel like a photo would have worked fine. But

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<v Speaker 1>we cut to Stabler on the news looking into camera

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:07.760
<v Speaker 1>holding Tommy being like, if you know Tommy, please come forward,

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 1>and or if you know this boy? I think maybe

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:12.480
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't say the name. That would have been smart

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:14.600
<v Speaker 1>to not say the name, and they're pleading for anyone

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>who recognizes him to come forward, and then the woman

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:19.399
<v Speaker 1>who is the news reporter goes, we'll have more on

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<v Speaker 1>than the story of Tommy the boy with no last name.

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm Jackie Judd live from SVU, and I like her already.

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I want more Jackie Judd. Craigan wants them to drop

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Tommy at ACS, but Elliot, it's like, naw, this kid's

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 1>gonna freak out if I leave him. Why don't I

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:35.679
<v Speaker 1>stay here and man the phones and then you and

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:37.159
<v Speaker 1>Finn and Lake can go out and do all the

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:39.680
<v Speaker 1>work and live is like okay, but like he needs

0:24:39.840 --> 0:24:42.359
<v Speaker 1>rest and a bath and fresh clothes, and Stabler's like,

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm on It. Cut to Stabler and his wife Kathy,

0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 1>who is massively pregnant, bathing Tommy at their house, and

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:52.359
<v Speaker 1>I was just loling all night about the idea of

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 1>an NYPD detective being able to just take a little

0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:58.240
<v Speaker 1>boy home to his house to give him a bath, Like, Okay,

0:24:58.280 --> 0:24:59.800
<v Speaker 1>you go home and take a bath with this cop

0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:02.320
<v Speaker 1>and we'll try to find your parents. Like it's so

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>TV and funny. They're talking about how they haven't done

0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>this in fifteen years, and she's like, are you ready

0:25:07.720 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 1>to do it all over again? And so I was like, wait,

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 1>how long has it been? Like what are the kids' ages?

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Because I forgot that he knocked up Kathy at seventeen,

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>So at this point, Maureen is twenty three, Kathleen is nineteen,

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:25.160
<v Speaker 1>and the twins are fourteen. It's so beyond my level

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:28.720
<v Speaker 1>of comprehension to then have a baby when your youngest

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 1>kids are teenagers.

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<v Speaker 4>Was it planned?

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I doubt it?

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 4>Was oh, maybe it.

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Wasn't planned, but oh yeah, they're of course not going

0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>to do any kind of selective but I just couldn't.

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, nope, not out, Like I don't know

0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:43.159
<v Speaker 1>if I was like done. I mean, she's having her

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>fifth baby at the time that I basically had my

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 1>second baby in her life, so it's like, I'm not.

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I definitely waited longer than seventeen to have kids, but

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just wild the age gap. I like didn't realize

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Eli was so much younger than the rest of the kids.

0:25:55.920 --> 0:25:58.480
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, Kathy's like, I really think I'm having a

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 1>girl and I haven't been wrong yet, and she's like,

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:02.639
<v Speaker 1>but you really want a boy, right, And Stabler's like,

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I just want it to be healthy, but like, duh,

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:06.879
<v Speaker 1>he definitely wants a boy, Like he's basically kidnapped Tommy,

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 1>like he wants a boy, and Kathy's like, we can't

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 1>keep him, and Stabler's like, I know, but you can

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.639
<v Speaker 1>tell he's kind of disappointed because he wants to keep Tommy.

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:16.679
<v Speaker 1>And so now at the precinct, Finn is interviewing this

0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>woman who says she's Tommy's mom. But when Tommy comes

0:26:19.680 --> 0:26:21.640
<v Speaker 1>in he does not know this woman, and the woman

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>is like immediately fruit looping out. It's like in Annie

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>when all the people come out of the woodwork to

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 1>say that they're Annie's like real mom with the locket

0:26:29.840 --> 0:26:33.680
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. So anyway, they get the nutball out of there,

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and then Finn's like, sorry, she sounded legit on the phone.

0:26:36.200 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know she was from planet zero, which I

0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 1>don't really know what that means, but burne And now

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>suddenly they they send it another guy and it's a

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 1>handsome blonde banker man in a suit and he's frantically

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>asking for Tommy. And this guy looked familiar to me.

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.359
<v Speaker 1>He's like a very generic hot guy. His name is

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Mark Valley, and he was like a regular on Boston

0:26:55.520 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Legal for a long time, and then he was on

0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:00.639
<v Speaker 1>Harry's Law. He was on the show called Hume Target,

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>like where he was just like a hot guy. Yeah,

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 1>like he's just like a hot action man kind of.

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 1>But then has also been in some legal.

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:10.639
<v Speaker 2>Showsay, Human Target reminded me of something off topic. But

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:15.040
<v Speaker 2>do you read about that woman with Alzheimer's No, So

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 2>the son donated his mother's body to science to Alzheimer's research,

0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:23.199
<v Speaker 2>and then the government sold it to like NASA and

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 2>they strapped her body into like a spaceship and exploded

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 2>her body. What Yeah, like the government sold her for

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:34.440
<v Speaker 2>like six thousand dollars or bought her and then exploded

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 2>her in some kind of ship or how did people

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.720
<v Speaker 2>even find out about this girl? I don't know, And

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, I didn't click the article.

0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just.

0:27:42.400 --> 0:27:45.399
<v Speaker 2>Saw woman and Alzheimer's like take it. But then the

0:27:45.440 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 2>comments were so mean towards the guy. They're like, yeah,

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 2>this piece of shit son didn't want to spend money

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 2>on a funeral and just gave his mother to research.

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:54.760
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, I didn't realize that that's

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe a thing I forgot, Like they're preying on the

0:27:58.160 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 2>poor in a different way.

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but also she had Alzheimer's. He's donating her body

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 1>to science. He's doing a.

0:28:04.280 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Service, like instead of what like paying thousands of dollars

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:10.600
<v Speaker 2>for her to rot in the ground as worm food

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 2>like ew. Well, that point was just like the internet's

0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 2>wild with opinions like I would have never even thought

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 2>about that. Oh, let me write Alzheimer's woman explosion, Like

0:28:20.840 --> 0:28:24.239
<v Speaker 2>hold on, let me see it elderly blown up by

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:25.640
<v Speaker 2>US Army explosive.

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I just don't even get how the story got out.

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 1>Someone must have leaked it, because like, the government wouldn't

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 1>be so stupid to be like, hello, we're like writing

0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>to let you know that we've blown your mother up.

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for donating her body.

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, explosives testing, and she looks just like an She

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.160
<v Speaker 2>was then supposedly strapped in a chair on some sort

0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:44.960
<v Speaker 2>of apparatus and a detent detonation took place underneath her

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 2>to basically kind of get an idea what the human

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 2>body goes through when a vehicle is hit by an ied.

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, So it wasn't space, they just exploded her.

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was the Archemy, not NASA. Yeah yeah,

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 2>that which makes more sense to be hones.

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 4>Sure, but horrific.

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Like I'd honestly, I'd rather my grandmother be shot into

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:06.239
<v Speaker 1>space and blown up than just like blown up by

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the army, honestly. Oh yeah.

0:29:08.480 --> 0:29:11.640
<v Speaker 2>And so the family is now suing Biological Resource Center,

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 2>the company that sold her body to the US Army.

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>It good get that money. That's fucked up.

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:20.720
<v Speaker 2>Biological Research Center has since closed this doors after the

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 2>FBI raided its facility in twenty fourteen.

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh so this is a while ago. Damn, that's fucking crazy.

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:28.479
<v Speaker 1>It is crazy.

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:30.320
<v Speaker 4>I can't believe you didn't see that, but I'm glad

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:31.080
<v Speaker 4>I let you know.

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 1>Sure didn't. But yes, thank you for telling me. Yeah,

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 1>be careful where you die. I also once again lessons

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:39.880
<v Speaker 1>in where Lisa's mind goes. I don't know what that

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 1>has to do with human target, but I love that

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>that jogged you and that we got to that story.

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, Yeah, this guy, Mark Valley, he's chiseled, jaw

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 1>generic hotman, comes in and he's like, my name's Jake Keegan.

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm Tommy's dad. They're like, why didn't you report hi missing?

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>He's like, because I thought he was at home, Like

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 1>my cousin just saw him on the news. Like what

0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 1>the fuck is going on? And Tommy is standing with

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Elliott like on the other side of the window because

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't want Tommy to be exposed to anymore kooks,

0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>and so he's like, did you see anyone out there

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that you know? And he goes, Daddy, you finded him

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>a positive ID And Tommy goes running out to his

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>dad and Jake's like, oh my gosh, I'm not even

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:19.160
<v Speaker 1>sure how he got the door open. Like he's acting

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 1>very chill, like, okay, now that I have Tommy, everything's fine.

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, hey, have you talked to your wife?

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Because your son was covered in blood when we found him,

0:30:25.480 --> 0:30:27.080
<v Speaker 1>So now Jake seems very concerned.

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:29.840
<v Speaker 2>They all go to the apartment. There's like blood on

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 2>the walls. Jake is yelling Leah, Leah, Leah, his wife's name.

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>They find a blonde woman lying face down in the bed,

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:40.640
<v Speaker 1>blood everywhere. She's very dead, and then Jake gets closer

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and realizes, oh, that's not my wife. It's Jody, our nanny.

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 1>But she was supposed to be off today, so dune done.

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>What's going on? Melinda tells them now as she zips

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 1>up the body bag, that Jody was raped and then

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>beaten to death around eleven am this morning. There's fresh

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>semen on the comforter, so they do have DNA. They

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 1>need to get Jake's DNA to exclude him, and Stabler's like,

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe don't exclude him. He's not the first guy trying

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>to diddle the babysitter. And I have to say, I

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:08.600
<v Speaker 1>really hate diddle. I don't know if I've talked about

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>this on the podcast before, but they say it on

0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the show all the time, like this guy likes diddling

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>little kids, like I don't. It's like it sounds like

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to make it cute. I don't really like diddle.

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 1>It's gross. It sounds like child talk to me. I

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 1>don't like it. So Jake has no idea where his

0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>wife is. He's like, we spoke this morning. She said

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 1>she was going to be home all day. And then

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Finn's like, oh, her credit card was used to gas

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 1>up on the New Jersey Turnpike at twelve thirty, and

0:31:34.320 --> 0:31:37.719
<v Speaker 1>then the security camera shows her at a toll booth

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 1>with a man in the passenger seat. And then Finn

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>shows us a crisp picture of this on his BlackBerry,

0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 1>which is so funny to me because like we used

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>to think that BlackBerry photos were like I could not

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>believe the sharpness of a BlackBerry photo. I was like,

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I can't believe I could take a

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 1>photo on my phone. And now when you look back

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>at those, you're like, was there vasoline on my camera?

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>It's wild? Anyway, the husband immediate goes she must have

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 1>been kidnapped. And it's like, this bro is so confident

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 1>that his wife is not just like cheating on him

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>or lying to him about where she is, that he

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 1>immediately goes to kidnapping where the kidnapper, Where the kidnapper

0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 1>makes her drive the car, like she's.

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 4>Just handing money on that would work.

0:32:16.600 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, there is a dead babysitter in the bed,

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 2>So your brain is like, it is probably going to

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.479
<v Speaker 2>the worst case scenario. True, that's true. That's true.

0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 1>Once you've seen a dead babysitter, you're like, it's the

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>guy who did it, and he took my wife.

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 4>God, yeah, that does make sense.

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 1>But when he goes away, they're like, listen, there is

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 1>a second charge on the card for a motel room

0:32:36.320 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>in Morristown, New Jersey. So now they're like that they

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>were discreet about they were discreet. That's nice. They were

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>they were doing they were doing a solid for Jake Keegan.

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>So now they're at the motel and some dorky guys

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>like bringing them to the room. When they get there,

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>they hear screams coming from inside the room, so they

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 1>let themselves in with the key, guns drawn and they

0:32:55.560 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>find two people having clearly loud sex and she he's like,

0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:02.480
<v Speaker 1>what do you people think you're doing, and like you

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>can't just bargein here, And then they're like it's okay, Leah,

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>you're safe, and she's like, what are you talking about?

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>This is my boyfriend. And as usual, they were like

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>very busy buying into the kidnapping theory that they were

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:14.400
<v Speaker 1>very shocked that this one was just having an old

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>fashioned affair, which I guess, which I get now that

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.880
<v Speaker 1>you've explained to me. Like everyone thinks that whoever killed

0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 1>this girl has now taken the wife since she was

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be home. So this woman's missed a lot

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>of crazy stuff while she was just fucking in a

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:32.560
<v Speaker 1>shitty New Jersey motel, like and also it's like wild

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:34.840
<v Speaker 1>to just turn your phone off like for all of that.

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.280
<v Speaker 1>But you know, she missed a lot. Her son was lost,

0:33:38.280 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 1>her son was found, you know, she was tracked down.

0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot. There was a whole news report. So

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>now Tapaac two, Leah's at the precinct, like tears in

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>her eyes, explaining that she loves Jake, but he's a workaholic.

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 1>She was lonely Matt made her feel special, and I

0:33:52.600 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>do immediately hear an accent on this woman and she

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 1>is British. Her name is Anastasia Griffiths. She was in

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite shows, Damages, as well as Royal

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Pains with our new bff Mark Feyerstein.

0:34:04.640 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 4>So she's been working.

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 5>Bro.

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that you like Damages this. Oh my,

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:12.480
<v Speaker 1>you've ever mentioned it? Oh no, haven't I mentioned it before?

0:34:13.080 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 1>When I used to watch Damages, Lisa, I was like

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>an addict, Like I would be up at three in

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the morning, and I'd be like, what does it matter

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 1>if I go to bed at three? Verses four, Like

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna watch one more episode. Like I was

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>crazy how obsessed with that show I was and what

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:25.799
<v Speaker 1>it was.

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 4>It's Glenn Close, right.

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:29.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's Glenn Close and Rose Burne. It's like Rose

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Byrne's first breakout thing. And what are they lawyers? Lawyers,

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:37.240
<v Speaker 1>the high fucking high fucking power lawyers. Like she's Glenn

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Close is very like Devilwar's productesque, like Top of but

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 1>without the funniness, Like it's there's like murder and intrigue

0:34:44.200 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and backstabbing and like manipulation it's like it's really good.

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 4>I believe it. Great actresses.

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 1>Also.

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you know this, but Tone Bell

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.960
<v Speaker 2>was in Mark Feuerstein's show JKL for nine or whatever.

0:34:56.040 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 1>No, he was the neighbor. Oh man, he gets out

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>there and work. He's working.

0:35:02.480 --> 0:35:05.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's working, always working, always booked.

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>He had such a fun show with Joe DeRosa about

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:09.919
<v Speaker 1>hip hop at the Meltown that I went time once

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>and it was so fun. It was called can I

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Kick It Anyway? Okay, So Anastasia slash Leah, the mom

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:18.440
<v Speaker 1>is just like get me out of here, like I

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 1>need to go see my son Tommy. And they're like, uh, hello,

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:23.520
<v Speaker 1>one quick thing. You're dead nanny and she barely cares.

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 1>She's like, listen, she was a nice kid, a Mormon

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 1>from Utah. I don't know anything. And Stabler immediately is

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 1>like Judge, Judy. He's like, oh, well, I mean, it's

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:34.759
<v Speaker 1>just like you brought your nanny in on her day

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 1>off so you could go have a New Jersey fuck fest,

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 1>and now you don't want to help us like figure

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.680
<v Speaker 1>out anything about her and lives, like please like answer

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:43.359
<v Speaker 1>a few of our questions, and she goes, I'll talk

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 1>to you, but I'm not talking to Detective Dick. And

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 1>that's what she calls stabler.

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 2>But it's like you are truly unfazed that this woman

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 2>was brittally murdered in yeah, yeah, yeah, and it could

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:56.359
<v Speaker 2>have been her.

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 1>I guess, like, you know, we don't know what happened, right,

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:02.400
<v Speaker 1>so or like your son, I mean, I guess she

0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 1>wants to get to her son because he possibly witnessed

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>a full murder, Like it's really you know, traumatic, so

0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 1>poor Tommy, Oh my god. Okay, So she says she

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>won't talk to Detective Dick, and she tells live how

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 1>they found Jody. They advertised in a paper in Utah

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>because Mormons make the best nannies. They don't drink, they

0:36:21.880 --> 0:36:25.800
<v Speaker 1>don't smoke, they come from big families, and they speak English. Okay,

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:28.359
<v Speaker 1>but like it feels like they can only be your

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 1>nanny for like a minute until their boyfriends get home

0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 1>from their missions. But whatever, if you're looking for a

0:36:33.719 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>life long nanny, I don't think these are the ones.

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:38.240
<v Speaker 1>But she's the only one. Jody was the only one.

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 2>With another I can't believe these Mormons are going to

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:40.960
<v Speaker 2>New York City.

0:36:41.000 --> 0:36:43.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's in my notes, that is in my fucking notes.

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, these girls are in New York, Like, it doesn't.

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 1>So she tells them that Jody is the only other

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>one with the key to the house, and she would

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>never have opened the door of a complete stranger, so

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:55.839
<v Speaker 1>it must have been someone she knew. And she goes,

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I only know two of her friends. They're Becca and Kimberly,

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:00.880
<v Speaker 1>two other Mormon nannies. So now we are at this

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>playground on Columbus on the Upper West Side, which does

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>not exist because I check the address and it's one

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>block from my old apartment and it's not real. But

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the Mormon nannies are dressed extremely mormonly and like you know,

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the neck sweaters with collared shirts underneath, and like kneelink skirts.

0:37:16.880 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>And the first thing we hear is one girl going,

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>oh my heck when she hears about her dead friend. So,

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, consummate religious girls, they're not going to break

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 1>and say the F word, so or the H word. Actually,

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:31.680
<v Speaker 1>what would you say? Oh my hell, oh my heck.

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, honestly, the whole phrase makes no sense. So

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:36.400
<v Speaker 1>they tell the detectives that she was engaged and that

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>her fiance was on his mission in Peru and that

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.120
<v Speaker 1>they'll all go home after their boyfriends get back, and

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I wrote, yeah, like it's so hard for me to

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:45.400
<v Speaker 1>believe that Mormon parents are like, Okay, while your boyfriend's

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 1>on his mission, we're going to send you to the

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:48.720
<v Speaker 1>evil city of New York.

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:49.160
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, the nannies are clearly hiding something, and stablers

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>like spill it and they do. They're like, listen, Jody

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.760
<v Speaker 1>was acting weird the last few months, dressing kind of slutty.

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Stop coming to the playground and they're like, well, where

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 1>was she going? And they're like, just online, like she

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:06.680
<v Speaker 1>missed her boyfriend and she was looking for someone to

0:38:06.680 --> 0:38:09.399
<v Speaker 1>talk to. They said they stopped by the house last

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 1>week and they saw Jody kissing some guy who was leaving.

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:16.560
<v Speaker 1>And what was the website called faceunion dot com and

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>this episode, yeah, and this episode is from November of

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven, and I joined Facebook literally October

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>of two thousand and seven, so I think they're definitely

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:29.720
<v Speaker 1>jumping on, like when everybody was like getting into Facebook

0:38:29.760 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 1>around that time. The face Union feels a lot more

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 1>like Tasty Sugar, Like they go to it and It's

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 1>like Jody has hot picks up and is like advertising

0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 1>herself as like a hot young nanny looking for fun.

0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Like I always thought face Union was just like Facebook,

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>like friends chatting and not like what's up, I'm horny

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>and young, come over, you know. But in her face

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Union account they find her corresponding over email with multiple dudes.

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Three dudes okay. One is named Taylor Braville who's a

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:01.480
<v Speaker 1>junior in college, the other is Raphael Gardener or aka Casanova,

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 1>and the other guy's user name is Jesse James, also

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>known as Gilbert Matthews. So Lake goes to check out

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:09.399
<v Speaker 1>Gilbert and he's like, yeah, I hooked up with Jody

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:11.759
<v Speaker 1>a couple of times. I stopped doing it because one

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 1>time we were getting busy and Tommy walked in and

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 1>was like watching us hook up, and it freaked me out.

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:20.799
<v Speaker 1>So his alibi is that he was at a motivational

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>seminar in Yonkers, and he goes, I paid two hundred

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:25.799
<v Speaker 1>and fifty dollars to hear Donald Trump talk, and I

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>was like, fuck, even in two thousand and seven, this

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 1>guy knows he's getting ripped off, like so good. So

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>then there we're now we're at Taylor Braville's house and

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 1>we find out that he's in India on his semester

0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:39.000
<v Speaker 1>abroad and his little brother, Caleb, has basically been catfishing

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>girls on his face Union account. He looks like he's

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 1>nine years old and I really like him, and the

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 1>mom's like, he's really cute. I know he's So he's like, sorry, mom,

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 1>and the mom's like, he's incorrigible. He's been using my

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:54.280
<v Speaker 1>visa like take him away. So that's a cute little moment.

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:56.880
<v Speaker 1>And now the final guy is Raphael. Finn goes to

0:39:56.880 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>see him aka Cassanova. Finn goes to see him. The

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 1>guy rolls out from underneath the car and Finn's holding

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>his BlackBerry with the guy's face Union photo and he's like, damn,

0:40:06.719 --> 0:40:08.719
<v Speaker 1>you got to update this photo. This is you, like

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty years ago. So he starts talking to Raphael, and

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Raphael admits that they had sex, but looks like shocked

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>to hear that she died, and Finn's like, well, when

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>did you guys have sex?

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:23.239
<v Speaker 4>Like we have DNA? Are we going to find out

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 4>that it's yours?

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:26.439
<v Speaker 1>And then we cut right to interrogation and the guy

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 1>is there going, yeah, we had sex and then I

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 1>left and he's like, I would never hurt her. We

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:33.359
<v Speaker 1>were passionately in love. And then liv walks in with

0:40:33.440 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 1>like a handful of receipts. She's like, I'll say, thirty

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 1>six emails in eight days. You seemed very obsessed, like

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.560
<v Speaker 1>my starts reading quotes like my darling, I will make

0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>you feel like a real woman and all this shit,

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 1>and he's like I just know what women want and

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.040
<v Speaker 1>lives like yeah, but Jody just wanted to hook up,

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>and Rafael's like, I don't think so. And then they

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 1>show in pictures like she was fucking these two other

0:40:55.719 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>guys too, even though we know she wasn't with Taylor

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>that was a nine year old. But they're leffing him

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:03.040
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. They're like, she's into hot young guys,

0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>not you, gramps, and he goes, I'm not old, and

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:07.439
<v Speaker 1>it's like very funny the way he says it, because

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>it's clearly like an insecurity that he has. So let's

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 1>start familiar to me.

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 2>But I looked him up and I don't same anything,

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 2>but this.

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:16.879
<v Speaker 1>Same he looked so familiar to me, And I looked

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:18.279
<v Speaker 1>him up and was like, yeah, I don't know this guy,

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:20.200
<v Speaker 1>but he looks very familiar and he's.

0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Working and it said that he was in Scarface, so

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 2>like sure, but yeah, I have no idea.

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:29.279
<v Speaker 1>Right, I've never seen Scarface, so really no, you know,

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of blind spot movies like Scarface, Godfather,

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:33.439
<v Speaker 1>like classic movies I haven't seen.

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen Godfather, but that's because it takes itself seriously.

0:41:37.160 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Scarface is like fun, right MIAMII guns I know, like.

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Say hello to my little friend and Tony Montel like

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:45.920
<v Speaker 1>the whole like snorting the mountains of coke. Like I

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>know all the stuff from Scarface. I just haven't seen it.

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:53.239
<v Speaker 1>But liv starts playing this guy Raphael like with her

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>flirty kind of like, you know, I totally understand what

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, but these young girls are so dumb, like

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 1>she should have seen how her love was real. She

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.800
<v Speaker 1>was so lucky to have you, like flirty, flirty Benson.

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>And then the violent music starts to swell, and you

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 1>know a confession is coming, and he's like, she led

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 1>me on, she said she wanted me, and then I

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>went over there and she laughed at me. She slammed

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 1>the door in his face and so he pushed his

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 1>way in. He was so mad he lost control. The

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 1>next thing he remembered was Tommy coming in crying, and

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 1>he saw what he had did and he ran so

0:42:24.840 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 1>in a blind rage over being rejected by this teenager,

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:32.040
<v Speaker 1>he rapes her and then murders her, which you know

0:42:32.840 --> 0:42:35.319
<v Speaker 1>is kind of tracks for how men react to being

0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:38.120
<v Speaker 1>laughed at, and so he's like, I could have made

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 1>her so happy, she didn't give me a chance.

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 4>All she saw was my age.

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>So this guy's really insecure and a psycho. So Elliott

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:49.360
<v Speaker 1>is watching all this through the one way glass. Melinda

0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:52.280
<v Speaker 1>shows up with some news, but it's not about Jody's

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:57.160
<v Speaker 1>murder per se. She ran the Tommy's blood and his

0:42:57.280 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 1>dad's blood to exclude them from like the murder scene blood,

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:04.760
<v Speaker 1>and it turns out done done. Jake is not Tommy's dad.

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 1>They have no matching alleles, which I remember from bio

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:12.080
<v Speaker 1>means you ain't related. So now Benson and Stabler are

0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 1>having one of their classic debates about morality and ethics.

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Liv Is like, we gotta tell Jake he has the

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 1>right to know that his wife's been cheating and his

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>son is not biologically his and Stabler's like, it's not

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 1>our place. He's still Tommy's father. They love each other.

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:27.800
<v Speaker 1>So they're arguing back and forth, and then they're walking.

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 1>They're doing a walk and talk, argue and when, and

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.319
<v Speaker 1>then Stabler yells, if Leah Keegan wants to tell her

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:37.840
<v Speaker 1>husband that Tommy is not his, that's her choice, not ours.

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Of course he uses full name, so there's no way

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 1>this can be mistaken as talking about someone else. And

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:46.359
<v Speaker 1>sitting right behind them is Jake Keegan. So now he knows.

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, wait, what like so now he knows

0:43:49.760 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 1>his son is not biologically his. So in the next scene,

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:56.400
<v Speaker 1>top of AC three, he's talking to Stabler about how

0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 1>his marriage definitely hits some rough spots, but he's always

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 1>stayed for Tommy and now it turns out Tommy's not his.

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>He shows Stabler a picture of him and Tommy and

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:06.400
<v Speaker 1>his wallet, and he's like, I used to see myself

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 1>in him. It's like, yeah, you are both blonde. It's

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:09.919
<v Speaker 1>pretty easy to see it, even if it's not real.

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>And he tells Stabler about how they would go fishing

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:14.800
<v Speaker 1>at this lake house. It was the best week of

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:16.759
<v Speaker 1>his life, and then last week he bought the lake

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 1>house and he was going to get Tommy a little

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:21.360
<v Speaker 1>fishing rod for Christmas. It's all very cute and sad,

0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 1>and Stabler is like, this doesn't mean you love him

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:26.160
<v Speaker 1>any less, and He's like, well, what about when he

0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:27.920
<v Speaker 1>gets older and he wants to like just wants his

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 1>bio dad. And Stabler's like there's plenty of adopted kids

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 1>who don't care about that, and Jake's like, yeah, but

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 1>I did not adopt this boy, like I watched him

0:44:34.239 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 1>be born. I cut the cord. He was my child,

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 1>and Stabler's like he still is. And it's like, I

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:42.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Men are just so fucked up about it

0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>having to be their DNA and passing down their seed

0:44:45.719 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and all this stuff. Like I mean, I would I

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 1>would be like shocked if I were this man, but

0:44:50.800 --> 0:44:52.479
<v Speaker 1>I would also be like, yeah, he's still my son,

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 1>and he's kind of acting like maybe he should just

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 1>walk away now.

0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like classically men are always like is

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.680
<v Speaker 1>it mine? Like it has to always be they have

0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:06.760
<v Speaker 1>to spread their seed and like have it be their DNA,

0:45:06.880 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and they're like lineage or whatever. You know, it's a

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:13.880
<v Speaker 1>weird thing. I feel like men do anyway, He asks Stabler,

0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:16.520
<v Speaker 1>what if you found out one of your kids wasn't yours?

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:18.839
<v Speaker 1>And Stabler is speechless because I don't even think Jake

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>knows he's got one on the way. So now we're

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:24.239
<v Speaker 1>at Stabler's house and Kathy is talking about how she

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:26.120
<v Speaker 1>has a doctor appointed the next day, but the car's

0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:28.400
<v Speaker 1>in the shop. Stabler's fully not listening to her, and

0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 1>she's like, I guess I'll ride my bike like he's

0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>She's like calling him out for not listening, and then

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:35.600
<v Speaker 1>he's like, oh, I'll take you. And then we find

0:45:35.600 --> 0:45:37.719
<v Speaker 1>out what's really on his mind and which we know,

0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:41.440
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, when we were separated, did you see anyone?

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>And then they both admit that they did see other people,

0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and Kathy says she went on a couple of dates,

0:45:48.160 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's no one he knows, and he's like, did

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:52.359
<v Speaker 1>you sleep with them? And she gets pissed, like, what

0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the fuck do you think this kid isn't yours? And

0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 1>then right at that moment, Stabler gets a call from Live,

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:01.400
<v Speaker 1>so putting a pin in this convo. At the Keegans,

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 1>now the cops are breaking up a fight between Jake

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and Leah's boyfriend Matt, Like two uniformed officers were like

0:46:08.000 --> 0:46:10.440
<v Speaker 1>holding the guys back, and Matt just Matt showed up

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 1>because he wanted to see Tommy because he's the real father.

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:15.439
<v Speaker 1>And then Jake was like, she.

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 4>Has been fucking this dude for a while, a while,

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:18.440
<v Speaker 4>three year.

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean the kid's three, you know, so at least

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 1>three or four years she's been having this long term affair.

0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>And so Matt has shown up to see Tommy. Leea's like,

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:32.799
<v Speaker 1>he's got to be the father. He's the only other

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 1>man I've been with. And Jake's like, who knows this

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.200
<v Speaker 1>bitch cheated on me? She probably cheated on you. And

0:46:37.239 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Matt's like, don't talk to her that way. We're in

0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 1>love and we have been for years. She was going

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 1>to divorce you, And he's like, when after she took

0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:45.279
<v Speaker 1>all my money, the GAP's not good enough for this

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:48.680
<v Speaker 1>whoor She needs Prada and pooci. Damn. I just love

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 1>that he said poocy. I did too. I had a

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 1>pooci wall at once that I bought in Italy and

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 1>my roommate brought home a random hookup who stole my

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:00.400
<v Speaker 1>purse and the poochi wallle it was gone.

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:04.759
<v Speaker 4>I was really sad. Try to cover the costs. No,

0:47:06.680 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 4>he's a sketchball.

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:09.359
<v Speaker 1>He did not try to cover the car at him.

0:47:09.400 --> 0:47:11.839
<v Speaker 1>But the girl, no, No, the roommate was a guy,

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a gay guy. So he brought home a guy and

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:17.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, well, my purse went missing, and he was

0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:19.440
<v Speaker 1>just like I don't know, and I'm like, but it

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 1>was in your room and like you had this hook

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 1>up and like now it's not here, and so that's

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.879
<v Speaker 1>definitely what happened to it. I was like, I didn't

0:47:25.920 --> 0:47:28.000
<v Speaker 1>throw my purse out the window in a drunken rage,

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:32.759
<v Speaker 1>although stranger things have happened. So anyway, Jake is like,

0:47:32.960 --> 0:47:34.839
<v Speaker 1>do you even have a job, and he goes, I'm

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 1>an actor. Jake goes, you mean you're a waiter. It's

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:40.800
<v Speaker 1>pretty funny because it's like meta that they're all actors. Anyway,

0:47:41.160 --> 0:47:43.479
<v Speaker 1>He's like, you can't afford her. She spends more money

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:45.759
<v Speaker 1>on shoes than you make it a whole year, and

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:48.720
<v Speaker 1>it's just making Jake Moore madd He's like, this loser

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:50.480
<v Speaker 1>screwing my wife and I'm paying for it.

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:51.719
<v Speaker 4>He lunges at Matt again.

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 1>They pulled him apart, just as Tommy comes out and

0:47:54.520 --> 0:47:57.120
<v Speaker 1>is like, daddy, like what's going on? And Jake's like,

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:59.439
<v Speaker 1>go back to bed, and the actor boyfriend, Matt, tries

0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 1>to be like, did you have a bad dream? And

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:04.319
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's he is seriously trying to connect with

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the kid, but it's like funny because it's like this

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:07.600
<v Speaker 1>guy does not know you. He's not going to tell

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you about his bad dream. And Leah's screaming for them

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 1>to stop. She's like not in front of Tommy. She

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:14.399
<v Speaker 1>picks up Tommy and goes to put him back to bed,

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:16.359
<v Speaker 1>and then Stabler and Benson bring both of the guys

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:19.680
<v Speaker 1>into the precinct. When we're there, our girl, Casey Novak

0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:21.520
<v Speaker 1>is like, oh, this is just about to get a

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 1>lot worse, and she says, because Jake and Leah were

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 1>married when Tommy was born, there is a doctrine of

0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:31.680
<v Speaker 1>presumptive paternity that means that Tommy is Jake's child in

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the eyes of the law. Legally, Matt has no rights,

0:48:35.040 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 1>not even for visitation, and if they get divorced, he's

0:48:38.000 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 1>got to pay child support and alimony. So like Stabler's like,

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:43.319
<v Speaker 1>so if Matt and Leah end up together, Jake could

0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:45.839
<v Speaker 1>be paying for it, and Casey's like, yeah, the law

0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:47.920
<v Speaker 1>looks at what's best for the child, which makes me

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>think about the little boy in the episode Stolen that

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 1>we did, like where you would think there would be

0:48:52.520 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 1>a presumptive doctrine of paternity for adoptive parents that took

0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 1>him in, but maybe because it was adoption, it wasn't

0:48:58.640 --> 0:48:59.319
<v Speaker 1>the same thing.

0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:03.680
<v Speaker 2>But like, well, they're really switching it up from that episode.

0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought it's DNA.

0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 2>This other biological dad has no rights, but the biological

0:49:08.200 --> 0:49:11.719
<v Speaker 2>dad of the guy who had the adoption switcheroo like

0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:15.279
<v Speaker 2>was not had all the rights. Like it's confusing, which

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:18.160
<v Speaker 2>we know that Matt can sue for custody, which you

0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:19.319
<v Speaker 2>know eventually he's going to.

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:23.359
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, apparently even if a woman tricks a guy

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:26.400
<v Speaker 1>into getting her pregnant like hole in the diaphragm, whatever,

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 1>he's still responsible. So Casey says, you know, both these

0:49:31.120 --> 0:49:33.560
<v Speaker 1>guys punched each other, it's a draw, let's cut them

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:35.440
<v Speaker 1>both loose, and Stabler like looks out the window with

0:49:35.560 --> 0:49:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Jake for a moment, and we understand that Stabler feels

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:41.279
<v Speaker 1>bad for Jake. So now at home in bed at

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:44.839
<v Speaker 1>the stabler residence. We see Kathy sleeping, Elliott lying wide awake,

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:47.720
<v Speaker 1>wondering if his slut wife is carrying another man's child.

0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 2>It's a quick moment, but also with Jake, it's like, yeah,

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:52.560
<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't have worked so much.

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:55.520
<v Speaker 4>You know she's gonna get fucked somewhere, Like.

0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:00.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but do you think he needed to work to

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:03.120
<v Speaker 1>keep up with her expensive tastes? Do you think she

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:05.399
<v Speaker 1>would have been okay wearing less fancy shit if he'd

0:50:05.400 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 1>been around more. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 1>who knows.

0:50:09.680 --> 0:50:13.759
<v Speaker 2>It's a good She looked trashy. She looked like a

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 2>sandy ag.

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, telling me that she likes Prada and Pooci.

0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not liking the outfits. Money can't buy you class.

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.920
<v Speaker 2>But also she looks like trash like there's no way

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:26.919
<v Speaker 2>that she knew what Poochi was before Jake.

0:50:27.520 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 1>But their house looks nice too, So he's got to

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:32.160
<v Speaker 1>pay that mortgage. I don't know. I don't know. I agree,

0:50:32.200 --> 0:50:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you got to have a work life balance. So the

0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 1>next day, in the workroom, Craigan tells Benson and Stabler

0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:39.680
<v Speaker 1>that Matt has just filed for custody of Tommy and Shocker,

0:50:40.440 --> 0:50:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and then Stabler and Benson starts squabbling about the ethics

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:45.080
<v Speaker 1>of it all again, and she's like, Matt deserves to

0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:47.839
<v Speaker 1>know his kid, and Stabler's like, I think he's Jake's kid,

0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:50.799
<v Speaker 1>and Craigan says it's not for us to decide, but

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:52.759
<v Speaker 1>Benson and Sabler both have to get to family Court

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:55.160
<v Speaker 1>for an emergency hearing, and Elliot's like, oh shit, I

0:50:55.200 --> 0:50:57.919
<v Speaker 1>do have this doctor appointment for Kathy. But just then

0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Lake walks in with Tommy and they're like, what's Tommy

0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:03.560
<v Speaker 1>doing here and Jake and Lake's like, oh, well, Jake

0:51:03.640 --> 0:51:05.239
<v Speaker 1>was double parked and he asked me to bring Tommy

0:51:05.320 --> 0:51:07.919
<v Speaker 1>upstairs for the appointment with Stabler, and Stabler's like, there's

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 1>no appointment, and he asked Tommy what's going on, and

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:13.719
<v Speaker 1>he's like, well, daddy went away, and what about your mom?

0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:16.200
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, mommy went away to like Jody, and

0:51:16.239 --> 0:51:18.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like, rout row. This is not good news. So

0:51:18.920 --> 0:51:21.800
<v Speaker 1>they head to the Keegan's house and they do sadly

0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:25.240
<v Speaker 1>find Leah. Although we were just talking badly about her clothes,

0:51:25.280 --> 0:51:26.799
<v Speaker 1>I did not want her to die. She does have

0:51:26.840 --> 0:51:29.200
<v Speaker 1>a child and she is dead.

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:31.480
<v Speaker 2>And I think we can all assume what happens, and

0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:32.400
<v Speaker 2>it's like, what did you do?

0:51:32.560 --> 0:51:32.719
<v Speaker 5>Bro?

0:51:33.000 --> 0:51:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:35.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now you're not going to be with your kid

0:51:35.160 --> 0:51:37.560
<v Speaker 2>at all, and actually the person you didn't want to

0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 2>raise him will do well now have him, Yeah, and

0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:43.000
<v Speaker 2>probably not bring him to jail to visit your dumb ass.

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:46.840
<v Speaker 2>So she is dead on a pool, pool of blood

0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:48.760
<v Speaker 2>around her head, face down on the floor.

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 4>Where's Jake? Of course there is a reason that we are.

0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:56.239
<v Speaker 1>We were hearing all that seemingly pointless info about the

0:51:56.280 --> 0:51:58.400
<v Speaker 1>lake House because that's clearly where Jake has gone. I

0:51:58.400 --> 0:52:00.880
<v Speaker 1>think it's like off on Long Island and Live is

0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:03.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna call the local sheriff out there to watch the house,

0:52:03.200 --> 0:52:05.640
<v Speaker 1>and Stabler's gonna head there, But what about Kathy's appointment?

0:52:05.719 --> 0:52:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Lives like, as usual, I'll cover shit with your wife,

0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:11.759
<v Speaker 1>and Stabler doesn't even say thank you, he just heads out.

0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 1>So we get to the lake House and there's a

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 1>sheriff there, and this is wild to me. There's an

0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 1>ambulance pulling away from the house and Stabler's like, is

0:52:20.560 --> 0:52:22.759
<v Speaker 1>that our guy? And he's like, no, that's just one

0:52:22.760 --> 0:52:24.320
<v Speaker 1>of my officers fell into a gopher.

0:52:24.360 --> 0:52:25.359
<v Speaker 4>Hole and broke his leg.

0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:27.360
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, did you guys get an ambulance on

0:52:27.480 --> 0:52:29.040
<v Speaker 1>set just for that plotline?

0:52:30.400 --> 0:52:31.320
<v Speaker 4>Like that's wild.

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:34.640
<v Speaker 1>They like hired an ambulance to be like just kidding,

0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:37.480
<v Speaker 1>that's not Jake. It's like not really enough of a

0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:40.880
<v Speaker 1>red herring. Do you think they own an ambulance or

0:52:40.880 --> 0:52:42.880
<v Speaker 1>they're always rend Even if they did, they had to

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:46.000
<v Speaker 1>get it from like fucking New Jersey where they keep

0:52:46.000 --> 0:52:46.920
<v Speaker 1>all their shit to lung.

0:52:47.239 --> 0:52:48.879
<v Speaker 4>I mean, who knows, maybe they shot this in New Jersey.

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:49.400
<v Speaker 1>You're right, I don't know.

0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:51.160
<v Speaker 2>It's supposed to be Long Island. It just seems like

0:52:51.200 --> 0:52:52.440
<v Speaker 2>a wild extra thing.

0:52:53.080 --> 0:52:56.239
<v Speaker 1>And now they've actually the guy tell the sheriff says, no,

0:52:56.280 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 1>we've got Jake around back. He had a gun, but

0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:00.319
<v Speaker 1>my guy's disarmed him. And so Stabler goes to talk

0:53:00.360 --> 0:53:02.439
<v Speaker 1>to Jake and they have this like you know, man

0:53:02.480 --> 0:53:05.080
<v Speaker 1>to man talk where Jake's like, you know you were

0:53:05.120 --> 0:53:05.960
<v Speaker 1>right about Tommy.

0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:08.600
<v Speaker 4>I was up all night watching him sleep. He's my son.

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 1>It was my job to kill his mom and leave

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:14.520
<v Speaker 1>him parentless. Like I don't really understand this man at all.

0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:17.000
<v Speaker 1>But he says, Leah told me that she was going

0:53:17.080 --> 0:53:19.120
<v Speaker 1>to divorce me, and that Matt filed for custody. I

0:53:19.160 --> 0:53:22.040
<v Speaker 1>was going to lose Tommy. And then she laughed at

0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:24.680
<v Speaker 1>him and he snapped. So this is the second woman

0:53:24.719 --> 0:53:28.000
<v Speaker 1>in this episode to get murdered for laughing at a man.

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:31.719
<v Speaker 1>So a theme, okay, And he knew Tommy would hate

0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:34.480
<v Speaker 1>him forever. So so Stabler's like, so did you come

0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:36.560
<v Speaker 1>out here to die? And like, he doesn't answer, so

0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:38.759
<v Speaker 1>we think, you know, maybe I don't know why you

0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:40.799
<v Speaker 1>didn't just do it where you were.

0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 4>Why do you have to drive out to a lake

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:42.880
<v Speaker 4>house to do it?

0:53:42.920 --> 0:53:45.759
<v Speaker 1>But you know, he realized that he had fucked up

0:53:45.840 --> 0:53:47.560
<v Speaker 1>right after he murdered his wife.

0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:49.360
<v Speaker 2>So Stabler's phone rings.

0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:52.040
<v Speaker 1>It's Olivia and she's driving Kathy to the appointment, and

0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:54.400
<v Speaker 1>he and Kathy say they're like little I love yous,

0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:57.839
<v Speaker 1>and then he finally says thank you to Olivia. Now,

0:53:57.880 --> 0:54:00.960
<v Speaker 1>for two seconds, we're in this quiet car and then

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere, a car runs the intersection and smashes

0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:09.279
<v Speaker 1>into the car carrying Kathy and Olivia. So scary car

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:12.959
<v Speaker 1>crashes in movies and TV really shake me up. And

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:17.480
<v Speaker 1>they've gotten way more graphic, like they do they I

0:54:17.520 --> 0:54:20.520
<v Speaker 1>remember in the movie adaptation, there's this scene where you're

0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:23.160
<v Speaker 1>they're backing out of a driveway and the camera is

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:25.720
<v Speaker 1>in the backseat of the car, so you just see

0:54:25.760 --> 0:54:28.480
<v Speaker 1>this truck flying at the car and the smashing.

0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:31.399
<v Speaker 2>It just didn't used to be so POV. It didn't

0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 2>used to be.

0:54:32.200 --> 0:54:35.799
<v Speaker 1>So I'm feeling what it's like to be smashed out

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:37.640
<v Speaker 1>of nowhere in a car crash, and it's like they're

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:39.920
<v Speaker 1>just they've made them too scary for me now. But

0:54:40.880 --> 0:54:44.200
<v Speaker 1>a top of act four, Live comes to she sees

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:48.080
<v Speaker 1>what's going on. Kathy is unconscious in the car. Live

0:54:48.120 --> 0:54:50.640
<v Speaker 1>grabs her walkie and calls in a bus and the

0:54:50.680 --> 0:54:53.040
<v Speaker 1>fire department and tells them that Kathy's legs are pinned

0:54:53.040 --> 0:54:55.799
<v Speaker 1>and we can see like her legs cannot move. Then

0:54:55.880 --> 0:54:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Live like smashes her own window and climbs out of

0:54:58.920 --> 0:55:01.120
<v Speaker 1>the car. The fire trucks are there within a minute,

0:55:01.120 --> 0:55:03.799
<v Speaker 1>which is impressive. The paramedics want to check out Live

0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:06.120
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, I'm fine, I'm fine, Just go help Kathy.

0:55:06.560 --> 0:55:09.800
<v Speaker 1>And they explained to Olivia that Kathy's airbag didn't deploy

0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 1>and they need to deactivate it so that it doesn't explode,

0:55:12.200 --> 0:55:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, she's Olivia's like hysterical, like you got

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:16.800
<v Speaker 1>to just get to her. The baby could be in distress.

0:55:17.200 --> 0:55:20.040
<v Speaker 1>And she's like, how's the other driver and they're like

0:55:20.120 --> 0:55:22.480
<v Speaker 1>he's fine. And we quickly flash on like a businessman

0:55:22.520 --> 0:55:24.879
<v Speaker 1>who's like, what's going on? And they said the car

0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:26.839
<v Speaker 1>reeks of booze. So this is just an asshole who

0:55:26.840 --> 0:55:29.560
<v Speaker 1>was driving extremely drunk in the middle of the day.

0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:33.880
<v Speaker 2>He reminds me of the old shady guy from the office.

0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh Creed, Yeah, he reminded me of a Creed vibe.

0:55:38.320 --> 0:55:43.400
<v Speaker 2>He had a Creed vibe for sure, Creed thoughts Dot Blogspot. Okay,

0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:49.480
<v Speaker 2>So they disarmed the bag and then they pop all

0:55:49.520 --> 0:55:50.120
<v Speaker 2>the tires.

0:55:50.280 --> 0:55:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that that was like something they did.

0:55:51.680 --> 0:55:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess they don't want the car to like roll anywhere,

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:55.600
<v Speaker 1>but they pop all the tires and now they have

0:55:55.719 --> 0:55:58.240
<v Speaker 1>to get Kathy out, but they can't use the jaws

0:55:58.239 --> 0:56:00.399
<v Speaker 1>of life to do it until they stabilize her neck

0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:02.400
<v Speaker 1>and head in case she has a spinal injury. And like,

0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:04.799
<v Speaker 1>when I became a lifeguard, we learned all about these

0:56:04.800 --> 0:56:07.040
<v Speaker 1>spinal injuries. Like you really got to keep everybody's head.

0:56:07.080 --> 0:56:08.799
<v Speaker 1>You never know what could happen, Like, even if they're

0:56:08.840 --> 0:56:12.360
<v Speaker 1>moving and fine, something could snap and they can like

0:56:12.400 --> 0:56:16.160
<v Speaker 1>never walk again. So the paramedics can't get to Kathy

0:56:16.560 --> 0:56:18.200
<v Speaker 1>to see how she and the baby are doing because

0:56:18.200 --> 0:56:20.960
<v Speaker 1>it's too tight inside the car, and lives like, well,

0:56:21.000 --> 0:56:22.759
<v Speaker 1>I got out and I can get back in. So

0:56:22.800 --> 0:56:25.520
<v Speaker 1>she climbs back in through the window that she is shocking.

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Obviously for television, we need Benson in there. But if

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:30.880
<v Speaker 1>Benson can get in there, so can a paramedics. So

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:32.799
<v Speaker 1>can a trained nurse or paramedics.

0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like, yeah, thank you for you know, the scene

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:38.359
<v Speaker 2>and Olivia stressing out.

0:56:38.440 --> 0:56:40.839
<v Speaker 1>Find it mean, but like I don't buy it. Yeah,

0:56:40.880 --> 0:56:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I was for sure TV Magic. We needed it to

0:56:43.080 --> 0:56:45.640
<v Speaker 1>be Olivia out. Nobody would care about a paramedic helping Kathy.

0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:49.040
<v Speaker 1>It needs to be Olivia for the emotional stakes of

0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:50.040
<v Speaker 1>it all. And so.

0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:52.880
<v Speaker 4>She climbs back in.

0:56:52.960 --> 0:56:54.799
<v Speaker 1>She gets into the backseat of the car, so she's

0:56:54.880 --> 0:56:58.200
<v Speaker 1>behind Kathy like stabilizing her neck and face and everything

0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:01.680
<v Speaker 1>and uh, and they're like we're gonna have to cut

0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:03.279
<v Speaker 1>the roof off of the whole car, and it's like

0:57:03.320 --> 0:57:07.640
<v Speaker 1>holy shit. So Olivia is putting a neck brace around Kathy.

0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Just as Kathy comes to and she's like got blood

0:57:10.440 --> 0:57:13.400
<v Speaker 1>on her head and she's like, what's going on? She

0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:16.560
<v Speaker 1>has great acts. Yeah, she's so confused. Yeah, it's like

0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:19.480
<v Speaker 1>so real, Like this shit looks so real to me.

0:57:19.920 --> 0:57:23.000
<v Speaker 1>And then she tells Olivia my water broke, and we

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:25.640
<v Speaker 1>like panned down to her dress which is like wet.

0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:29.360
<v Speaker 1>And meanwhile on Long Island, Finn goes to pick up

0:57:29.400 --> 0:57:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Stabler and they're going to chop her back to the city.

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:34.720
<v Speaker 1>So back at the car crash, the paramedics are walking

0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Olivia through how to help Kathy. She puts the neck

0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:39.560
<v Speaker 1>brace on and then Kathy loses consciousness, like she just

0:57:39.640 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 1>like passes out and they notice also coming from like

0:57:43.560 --> 0:57:48.160
<v Speaker 1>her lower body, she's bleeding, so she needs fluids. And

0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:51.240
<v Speaker 1>this guy paramedic is walking Olivia through how to put

0:57:51.240 --> 0:57:53.360
<v Speaker 1>an IVY in her arm, and it's like, I have

0:57:53.640 --> 0:57:55.880
<v Speaker 1>had so many ivs in my arm because of having

0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:58.680
<v Speaker 1>children and or having I had so much blood taken

0:57:59.280 --> 0:58:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and you you really have to know what you're doing

0:58:01.400 --> 0:58:03.600
<v Speaker 1>to find a vein. Like it's I've had them poke

0:58:03.640 --> 0:58:05.240
<v Speaker 1>at me for a long time before they find one.

0:58:05.280 --> 0:58:07.360
<v Speaker 1>But not to brag, I have super tiny veins. Anyway,

0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:11.320
<v Speaker 1>she finally gets the blood in there, and like we

0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:13.560
<v Speaker 1>see blood and so she gets the bag hooked up

0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:16.280
<v Speaker 1>and she's pumping the fluids like manually with her hand,

0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:18.560
<v Speaker 1>squeezing the bag and pumping the fluids into Kathy.

0:58:18.920 --> 0:58:20.440
<v Speaker 4>Kathy wakes up pretty immediately.

0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:22.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to know that's how fluids work, if it is,

0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and great work, Benson. So Kathy's back with us and

0:58:27.360 --> 0:58:29.960
<v Speaker 1>getting fluids, and they tell Kathy we're going to take

0:58:29.960 --> 0:58:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the roof off the car. They cover her face with

0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:35.040
<v Speaker 1>a coat. At this point, I'm like traumatized because like,

0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I gave birth like in a hospital bed with an

0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:41.200
<v Speaker 1>epidural and it was still fucking hard and traumatic. And

0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:44.360
<v Speaker 1>so to be covered in blood, getting a roof sowt

0:58:44.400 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 1>off a car, your husband's not there, like it just

0:58:47.120 --> 0:58:50.560
<v Speaker 1>seems like this is a fucking nightmare. Cool.

0:58:50.600 --> 0:58:53.919
<v Speaker 2>I did like watching Benson squeeze the ivy bag. Yeah,

0:58:54.000 --> 0:58:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I wish I could squeeze an ivy bag.

0:58:56.320 --> 0:58:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I think if you fill up a ziplock with water,

0:58:58.120 --> 0:58:59.200
<v Speaker 1>it's the same sensation.

0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:03.840
<v Speaker 2>No oh, it's a thicker plastic and you know it.

0:59:03.840 --> 0:59:04.840
<v Speaker 1>It's it.

0:59:05.520 --> 0:59:07.040
<v Speaker 4>Ivy bags are thicker yeah.

0:59:07.360 --> 0:59:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, this one looked like it was some kind of

0:59:09.360 --> 0:59:10.280
<v Speaker 2>portable IVY bag.

0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:12.160
<v Speaker 1>It looked like thinner to me. It didn't look like

0:59:12.160 --> 0:59:14.960
<v Speaker 1>the ones that are in the hospital. Yeah, but whatever,

0:59:15.000 --> 0:59:17.920
<v Speaker 1>you're a doctor, If you could, somebody please send ly'sa

0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:20.920
<v Speaker 1>an IVY bag, we'd really love to get her. Even used,

0:59:20.960 --> 0:59:24.240
<v Speaker 1>I won't like use it. Yeah, we don't need the

0:59:24.280 --> 0:59:27.040
<v Speaker 1>iv we just need the bag, Like really, yeah, just

0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:28.000
<v Speaker 1>send that bag over.

0:59:28.920 --> 0:59:31.880
<v Speaker 2>When I was young, I was obsessed with that, like like,

0:59:31.960 --> 0:59:34.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, before they take your blood in the test tube,

0:59:34.120 --> 0:59:36.480
<v Speaker 2>there's like stuff already in there.

0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:38.280
<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, gunk.

0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I made I made some phlebotomus give them to me.

0:59:41.120 --> 0:59:43.040
<v Speaker 2>I used to be like obsessed with collecting them. So

0:59:43.080 --> 0:59:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I'd be like, what is that? Can I have one?

0:59:45.120 --> 0:59:45.919
<v Speaker 1>And I would take them.

0:59:46.200 --> 0:59:49.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, A fascination At an early age.

0:59:49.640 --> 0:59:50.080
<v Speaker 2>I like that.

0:59:50.160 --> 0:59:51.720
<v Speaker 4>But I don't know what they're for.

0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure tons of people were explaining it to me,

0:59:54.160 --> 0:59:56.280
<v Speaker 1>but I think the stuff that's in there is probably

0:59:56.320 --> 0:59:58.840
<v Speaker 1>just some kind of like preservative or something that's like

0:59:59.120 --> 1:00:01.880
<v Speaker 1>keeps the blood from coagulating or something. I don't know,

1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:04.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe blood can't coagulate out of the body. I have

1:00:04.040 --> 1:00:06.280
<v Speaker 1>no idea anyway. I am not a.

1:00:06.160 --> 1:00:09.800
<v Speaker 4>Love of those pens that looked like syringes.

1:00:10.920 --> 1:00:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, with the blood, like the fake blood in it. Yeah,

1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:13.920
<v Speaker 1>those are fine.

1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't Yeah, what's up with me? But I'm liking

1:00:16.160 --> 1:00:17.720
<v Speaker 2>all this medical supply stuff.

1:00:18.000 --> 1:00:22.400
<v Speaker 1>You're a phleblotomy girl, what can we say? So they

1:00:23.040 --> 1:00:26.480
<v Speaker 1>are like, yeah, I just am like not giving birth

1:00:26.520 --> 1:00:28.080
<v Speaker 1>is so hard. It's like you don't need a head

1:00:28.120 --> 1:00:30.680
<v Speaker 1>wound and a fireman like lurking around. It's just very

1:00:30.760 --> 1:00:32.920
<v Speaker 1>seems very traumatic. And a Live just keeps being like

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<v Speaker 1>are you okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Kathy?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you okay? And it's like she's definitely not okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and Live tells the she keeps having contractions is essentially

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. And Live tells one of the fire

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<v Speaker 1>guys she's like, the contractions are three minutes apart, like,

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<v Speaker 1>and she tells the paramedics like we got to give

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<v Speaker 1>her something to slow down the labor, and the paramedics

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<v Speaker 1>like I just don't carry that shit with me, like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have it.

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<v Speaker 4>And so just then I have.

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<v Speaker 2>Called nine one one and dealt with paramedics and I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot imagine them having the skills to do this in

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<v Speaker 2>the way that these TV paramedics did. It. Really the

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<v Speaker 2>dumbest people I've ever met. I mean, obviously there's amazing paramedics,

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<v Speaker 2>but when our friend, when I saved her from choking

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<v Speaker 2>the Heimlich before I realized that it had dislodged, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I didn't know what to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was dragging her outside while calling nine one

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<v Speaker 2>one because I was like, maybe someone at the bar

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<v Speaker 2>across the street, yeah, do Behin'm like better, but I

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<v Speaker 2>did dislodge the fry, and so the nine one one

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<v Speaker 2>operator was like, well, we still have to send the paramedic.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you call, we have to send it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, but we're fine, and she's like, we have to.

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<v Speaker 2>So these paramedics show up and they keep telling our friend.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, was it boyfriend trouble? Are you sure it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't your boyfriend bothering you? And she goes, no, I

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<v Speaker 2>choked on a fry I was eating, and he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, seems.

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<v Speaker 4>Like boy trouble, what the fuck? Psychotic?

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<v Speaker 2>And then finally like we did the play Bible and

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<v Speaker 2>she's like, well, I was on the phone with my

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<v Speaker 2>boyfriend and he goes see Jack, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>My god, I'm going to kill someone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were just like disheveled, did not seem that cool.

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<v Speaker 4>Also like they were parking for forever.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe it's because they knew we didn't really need

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<v Speaker 2>them anymore, but like they were slow, they weren't helpful,

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<v Speaker 2>they were sexist, they were like WEIRDO.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that does seem like you got bad paramedics.

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<v Speaker 1>They feel like paramedics are really hard working, underpaid people

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<v Speaker 1>in general.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely underpaid, especially if you're this guy. But I was

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<v Speaker 2>like with these guys, I was like, I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 2>them giving birth to Kathy's baby and helping her.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah they would, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I just can't imagine this guy is like a superstar.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, I wish.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember what else, But I remember them being like

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<v Speaker 2>so fucking up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really gross and annoying. It's like, just deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the metal. You don't really need to know the background

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<v Speaker 1>of what was happening before or with the fry, like

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<v Speaker 1>just a fry, just deal with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, can you also not flirt with a woman

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<v Speaker 2>who almost just died and like life flashed before her eyes?

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<v Speaker 2>Like give her a second. But when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>I went to the hospital all the time, and I

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<v Speaker 2>remember the paramedics being fine, probably annoyed because I shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have been going.

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<v Speaker 1>But these guys were shlubs, not good, not good.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was watching this guy, I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>this is is this a fantasy?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well this guy is a good is good at

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<v Speaker 1>his job. But he's like, I do not have the

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<v Speaker 1>drugs that you're talking about, Like I don't carry that

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<v Speaker 1>with me in the ambulance.

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<v Speaker 4>So sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>And so just then Daddy Craigan arrives with Elliott on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone and he's like I'm here, babe, are you

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<v Speaker 1>all right? And she's like yeah, Olivia's taking really good

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<v Speaker 1>care of me. And it's like so fucked up. I

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<v Speaker 1>would be like, I don't have time to talk, just

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<v Speaker 1>get here, like I don't know. They say I love

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<v Speaker 1>you to each other, and now the roof has been

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<v Speaker 1>cut off already and they're using the jaws of life

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<v Speaker 1>now to free her legs, and it's just like it

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<v Speaker 1>is a very like it's a very realistically shot scene.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like like I've never seen the Jaws of

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<v Speaker 2>Life really work like that. It was like This is

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<v Speaker 2>so scary how cars are just like these metal like

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<v Speaker 2>balls that were in that can just collapse in on

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<v Speaker 2>us and we have to get out. But Craigan is

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<v Speaker 2>stand doing nothing as their jaws of lifing her out

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<v Speaker 2>of there. Everybody keeps telling Kathy, hang in there, hang

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<v Speaker 2>in there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so fucked. One guy calls her, honey, I you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, we don't need that. And then finally

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<v Speaker 1>her legs are free, and they've got to put her now,

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<v Speaker 1>they've got to Finally her legs are free, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the nightmare just continues. Now we've got to put

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<v Speaker 1>her on a spineboard. Okay, they've got They keep telling

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<v Speaker 1>her to stay still, and this is like my full nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>It's your nightmare is to be giving birth and people

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<v Speaker 1>keep telling you stay still, don't move, like nightmare. So

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<v Speaker 1>Live is right there with her. Craigan says, we're holding traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>She'll be at the hospital in ten minutes, and they

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<v Speaker 1>say hold on, hold on, and she's like, I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>fucking hold on. This baby is coming. So now they're

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<v Speaker 1>on the ambulance and she's like, this baby is coming.

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<v Speaker 1>They've abandoned the spinal board. I guess they're like, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I guess they because I think you're supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>wait until you've been fully checked to make sure you

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a spinal injury.

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<v Speaker 1>But but this is.

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<v Speaker 2>A wild what can you do? It's a wild scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's off the spinal board, she's leaning up against Olivia,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's pushing because she's dilated, and the baby is crowning.

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<v Speaker 4>So now she's pushing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, we get three big pushes and the

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<v Speaker 1>baby is out. It's a boy. So now she had

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<v Speaker 1>to be wrong on top of all of this trauma.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's holding the baby and it's like a happy

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<v Speaker 1>moment for a second. But then she starts to like

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<v Speaker 1>slowly lie back and she's passing out and the machine

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<v Speaker 1>starts to beep like she's her bread blood pressure is crashing,

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<v Speaker 1>she's coating. This is bad.

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<v Speaker 2>So then Olivia so shocked, like the look of shock

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<v Speaker 2>on Olivia's face.

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<v Speaker 1>Hat they just hand her the baby. We never even

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<v Speaker 1>see an umbilical cord get cut. But like she's now

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<v Speaker 1>holding the baby and we're all thinking, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>Kathy's gonna die live has the baby wrapped in one

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<v Speaker 1>of those silver marathon blankets. Like it's wild, like they

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<v Speaker 1>haven't even the baby's not even washed off yet, so

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<v Speaker 1>we don't know what's going on. We're thinking, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>is Kathy gonna die? Now? At the hospital, Elliot runs in.

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<v Speaker 1>We still have no idea what's going on. He goes

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<v Speaker 1>into the hospital room and there we see Kathy alive

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<v Speaker 1>holding the baby. She has cuts on her face, embrace.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank god they're on the other side of this massive drama.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Stabler goes, hey, little man, welcome to the world.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your daddy, and like holds the baby and Kathy goes,

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<v Speaker 1>you are his father and he's like yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like okay, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess with Stabler's philosophy, whether that was one of Kathy's

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<v Speaker 1>like we were on a break babies or not, he

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<v Speaker 1>would have still been the father. I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like who knows, because that's the way he was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Jake the whole episode. So outside the hospital room,

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<v Speaker 1>a live is like staring into space, looking exhausted and traumatized.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Elliott comes out and she asks about the baby,

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes, the baby's great, and then he walks

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<v Speaker 1>past her, and I'm like, what the fuck You're just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like walk past the woman who just like saved

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<v Speaker 1>your wife and babies life. And then he spins around,

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<v Speaker 1>grabs Olivia and pulls her in for a huge hug,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think the Benchler fandom this must be one

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<v Speaker 1>of the horniest scenes of their entire lives. Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a very very emotional hug.

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<v Speaker 2>Live looks like eyes are closed, like it looks weirdly, weirdly, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Like sexual this hug.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think I remember when this episode was on,

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<v Speaker 1>when I watched it live, I remember thinking, oh, fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>are they actually gonna let it happen? Are they gonna

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<v Speaker 1>kill Kathy and let Sabler and Olivia be together? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of viewers were like, fuck, man,

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<v Speaker 1>like that could have been it, and it wasn't. So

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<v Speaker 1>the long intense hug ends and they look at each

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<v Speaker 1>other and Live breaks attention and it's like, so, did.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys pick a name?

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, Kathy wants to name the baby after me,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, it's like, not the man who was there

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<v Speaker 1>for the birth, but the other guy who was barely

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<v Speaker 1>around the baby should have been named Oliver if you

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<v Speaker 1>ask me, and uh, liv goes just what the world needs.

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<v Speaker 1>Another Elliott STABLERL. And then that's Dick Wolf Baby, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's paternity A very.

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<v Speaker 2>Good I'm jealous that you watched it live and have memories.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just thinking this must have been so wild

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<v Speaker 2>to watch life.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember that was one of the only besides

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<v Speaker 1>their divorce they got back together. So you were like,

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<v Speaker 1>when they got divorced, you kind of thought, oh, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>this is something. But then he got together with Beck

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<v Speaker 1>and then when they got when they when this accident happened,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh, maybe this is it, Like maybe they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna maybe they're gonna kill her, and then they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>So because they're never gonna let them be together, I

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<v Speaker 1>want everyone to know that they're never gonna let it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And I love that the people on Twitter are like,

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<v Speaker 2>why does Dick Wolf hate us? Just give us what

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<v Speaker 2>we want? And it's like, why would they let you

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<v Speaker 2>guys decide? Yeah, you're nuts, You're nuts, all right, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do some crimes after these messages. So today's episode

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<v Speaker 2>is based on obviously a super sad case mostly around

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<v Speaker 2>the babysitter, I would say, and it's about a girl

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<v Speaker 2>named Christina Long, and this is a crime in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, Dan Barry, what year we'll get to it?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, did I not write? I know dan Berry two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and two and two?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Did this?

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<v Speaker 4>Did this hit your brain? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>You know if it was the fall of two thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>I was living in Connecticut, so it's wild. But the

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<v Speaker 1>dan Berry Fair Mall I always was obsessed with because

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<v Speaker 1>it has a fair has a carousel in it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was always like, can we go to the dan

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<v Speaker 1>Berry Mall mom? And like it's it's kind of far

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<v Speaker 1>from where I live, but kind of wild that this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't jogging any Well, tell me the whole story maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it will.

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<v Speaker 4>So, yeah, this is Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 2>So Christina Long was the sixth grader at Saint Peter

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<v Speaker 2>Roman Catholic School in dan Berry, Connecticut, and she had

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<v Speaker 2>good grades, led the cheerleading squad, and was an altar girl.

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<v Speaker 2>But like any classic SVU story, she had a different

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<v Speaker 2>life online. She came to live in Danberry with her aunt,

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<v Speaker 2>Shelley Rilling because her parents had substance abuse problems.

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<v Speaker 1>So her parents were.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like not very good so she came to stay

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<v Speaker 2>with her aunt, and her aunt says that she had

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<v Speaker 2>no idea about Christina's online life, but her screen name

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<v Speaker 2>was long.

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<v Speaker 1>Too hot for You Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she had a slogan that said I will

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<v Speaker 2>do anything at least once, and she was having sex

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<v Speaker 2>to people she met in chat.

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<v Speaker 1>Rooms in sixth grade. Oh she was thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So her aunt Shelley basically dropped Christina off at

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<v Speaker 2>the Dan Barry Fair Mall and then called the police

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<v Speaker 2>when she never returned. She ended up sadly being strangled

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<v Speaker 2>by a married restaurant worker she met on the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>So his name is Saul Dose Race and he was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five years old, and they kept saying undocumented, undocumented,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, I don't think that matters, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. It seems like if he was illegal

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<v Speaker 2>immigrant or not, or how he came here or if

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<v Speaker 2>he was born here, like isn't important. But they did

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<v Speaker 2>really like to hammer in that he was undocumented, and

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<v Speaker 2>he actually so he came from Brazil and he's been

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<v Speaker 2>in the state since he was ten years old and

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<v Speaker 2>had no criminal rept His screen name was hot e

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<v Speaker 2>S three hundred, which referred to a Lexus model, and

1:11:07.080 --> 1:11:09.920
<v Speaker 2>she really liked cars too, like she liked Audi's, and

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<v Speaker 2>so they kind of bonded over liking cars.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was not so.

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<v Speaker 2>This mall incident was not the first time they met.

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<v Speaker 2>They have met several times before the murder. They found

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<v Speaker 2>emails indicating the two had agreed to meet this Friday

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<v Speaker 2>night on May seventeenth, two thousand and two. Dos Race

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<v Speaker 2>claims that he accidentally strangled Christina while they were having

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<v Speaker 2>sex in his car in a mall parking lot.

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<v Speaker 4>Accidentally.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't buy it, And there's more evidence later where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, yeah, there's no fucking way.

1:11:38.920 --> 1:11:39.479
<v Speaker 1>It's sad.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't buy that stuff, like accidental sex stuffs.

1:11:43.080 --> 1:11:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, buy it.

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<v Speaker 2>That means you're not like a pretty intune partner in

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<v Speaker 2>any way, right right, someone's turning.

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<v Speaker 1>Blue, like, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? But he then dumped her body twenty five miles away.

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<v Speaker 2>He confessed to the killing and led the officers to

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<v Speaker 2>the body. And that's reported to CBS News by US

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<v Speaker 2>attorney John Danaher the third.

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<v Speaker 1>Her what nothing? I just like when you said the third.

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<v Speaker 2>Her body was found in a remote ravine in Greenwich

1:12:13.920 --> 1:12:15.360
<v Speaker 2>damn Greenwich's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the town next to mine. Yeah, it's really sad.

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<v Speaker 2>And so during the trial, though, he tried to create

1:12:22.320 --> 1:12:26.559
<v Speaker 2>an alibi after Christina's death by writing an email asking her, so,

1:12:26.800 --> 1:12:29.080
<v Speaker 2>how was that date with the guy last night? And

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<v Speaker 2>then The New York Times said that the email was

1:12:30.800 --> 1:12:33.080
<v Speaker 2>actually expressing regret that he had not been able to

1:12:33.120 --> 1:12:36.240
<v Speaker 2>meet her. But either way, he was sending emails after

1:12:36.280 --> 1:12:38.920
<v Speaker 2>he dumped the body, trying to like make it seem

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<v Speaker 2>like he was not the one she was meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>In April of two thousand and three, he did finally

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<v Speaker 2>plead guilty to federal charges of crossing state lines to

1:12:47.479 --> 1:12:50.599
<v Speaker 2>have sex with a child, which should be rape.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay government.

1:12:53.560 --> 1:12:56.760
<v Speaker 2>He was also convicted of state charges of manslaughter and

1:12:56.840 --> 1:13:00.280
<v Speaker 2>sexual assault. He entered a plea under something called the

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<v Speaker 2>Alfred doctrine, in which she did not admit guilt but

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<v Speaker 2>conceded that the state had enough evidence to convict him.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so he took an Alford plea. Yeah so you

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<v Speaker 1>know about this? Oh yeah, they talk about these on

1:13:12.120 --> 1:13:15.400
<v Speaker 1>SVU and stuff like. It's basically like you can also

1:13:15.479 --> 1:13:17.840
<v Speaker 1>do this with like a speeding ticket or like other

1:13:18.479 --> 1:13:21.799
<v Speaker 1>tickets you could plead NOLO. It stands for NOLO contender.

1:13:22.040 --> 1:13:23.880
<v Speaker 1>It means like, I don't contest this, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>admit that I'm guilty. Yeah. I never knew about that. Yeah, yeah,

1:13:27.880 --> 1:13:30.679
<v Speaker 1>because I've pleaded NOLO for like speeding tickets before, because

1:13:30.680 --> 1:13:32.479
<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, I don't think I was speeding, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna pay it because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep coming up to New Hampshire to pay it like

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<v Speaker 1>due trials, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, and then his mom during the trial was

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<v Speaker 2>sobbing the whole time, and it's like, excuse me, Yeah,

1:13:45.760 --> 1:13:47.920
<v Speaker 2>there's no room for that in my eyes, Like you're

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<v Speaker 2>sitting next to this aunt who lost her niece and

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<v Speaker 2>you're crying because your son is getting appropriate punishment. Like

1:13:54.200 --> 1:13:56.760
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck are you talking about? Go cry in

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<v Speaker 2>your own home. This is not the place, right. It

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<v Speaker 2>bothers me. Shelley told the La Times, if I had

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<v Speaker 2>my way, he'd be in jail for life. The poor

1:14:05.400 --> 1:14:07.360
<v Speaker 2>me stance. I don't buy it at all. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he is absolutely a monster. And how old was he?

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty five? So why are you fucking a thirteen year old? Like, God,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't the first one.

1:14:16.960 --> 1:14:21.040
<v Speaker 2>He's also there was evidence that he raped a fifteen

1:14:21.120 --> 1:14:24.040
<v Speaker 2>year old as well, that he met online. So and

1:14:24.160 --> 1:14:28.080
<v Speaker 2>he was married and stuff, but was cheating on his

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<v Speaker 2>wife with children.

1:14:29.600 --> 1:14:31.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was charged in both the state and federal

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<v Speaker 2>courts for his crimes and was sentenced to thirty years

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<v Speaker 2>in prison. The aunt came with another quote and said

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<v Speaker 2>to the News Times, the longer he's in jail, the

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<v Speaker 2>safer other children will be just kind of a badass,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like. But while he was in federal custody,

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<v Speaker 2>The New York Times reported that he was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>find pen pals online. Like They found a profile he

1:14:56.400 --> 1:14:58.800
<v Speaker 2>made on a site for inmates seeking pen pals in love,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said he was an hour going heterosexual male

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<v Speaker 2>in his mid twenties looking for female pen pals to

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<v Speaker 2>correspond with and said that he was romantic and always

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<v Speaker 2>funny and enjoyed music and dancing, and that he always

1:15:11.680 --> 1:15:16.240
<v Speaker 2>has a positive attitude. And then he also wrote that

1:15:16.320 --> 1:15:19.479
<v Speaker 2>he's very good at telling stories which can and will

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<v Speaker 2>have you shiver. But it's like, take a break from dating.

1:15:23.600 --> 1:15:26.000
<v Speaker 2>You just got to prison, Like what is happening? I

1:15:26.000 --> 1:15:28.679
<v Speaker 2>don't understand this, Like got to get back out there,

1:15:28.720 --> 1:15:30.599
<v Speaker 2>Like why don't you think about your crime?

1:15:30.720 --> 1:15:34.880
<v Speaker 4>How about that? Oh God, take a break from dating.

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<v Speaker 2>This is truly out of control, and it pisses me

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<v Speaker 2>off because I kept trying to find more and more

1:15:40.240 --> 1:15:43.679
<v Speaker 2>information about Christina, and all I could find was articles

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<v Speaker 2>about him and these cases and his lost stuff and

1:15:46.800 --> 1:15:50.280
<v Speaker 2>like this article about him trying to date from prison,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's like I wanted to know about Christina.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's also like why do the prisons not

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<v Speaker 1>have those sites blocked? I don't think if you need

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<v Speaker 1>to use Google to like write a report for school

1:16:00.200 --> 1:16:02.559
<v Speaker 1>in jail or whatever, fine, you don't need to be

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<v Speaker 1>on faceunion dot com or whatever.

1:16:05.680 --> 1:16:08.599
<v Speaker 2>No, and the people there said that everything's actually written

1:16:08.680 --> 1:16:10.680
<v Speaker 2>and then sent to that whatever it is. I think

1:16:10.680 --> 1:16:13.000
<v Speaker 2>it's bullshit. It's kind of like the Impostor episode that

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<v Speaker 2>we did, the Stranger episode where it's like he was

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<v Speaker 2>still making phone calls from prison and it's like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't let him.

1:16:20.000 --> 1:16:21.799
<v Speaker 1>Damn it is this happening.

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<v Speaker 4>Stop giving them these privileges, and it just.

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<v Speaker 2>It all bothers me and a lot of the articles

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<v Speaker 2>it was all about just like like Christina, what a slug? Oh,

1:16:34.880 --> 1:16:37.240
<v Speaker 2>this girl was having sex from people on it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure in Connecticut.

1:16:38.520 --> 1:16:42.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure in Connecticut that was also like like even

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<v Speaker 1>more hyper.

1:16:43.720 --> 1:16:46.759
<v Speaker 2>There were all these chriss just like she dressed really

1:16:46.920 --> 1:16:49.759
<v Speaker 2>provocative and her makeup was heavy and all this stuff,

1:16:49.800 --> 1:16:52.080
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, we talked about this a lot, like

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<v Speaker 2>what were her parents, like, what was her life?

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<v Speaker 4>Why is she so sexual? And why don't we think

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<v Speaker 4>about that?

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<v Speaker 2>And like, yeah, So researching was kind of disappointing in

1:17:02.120 --> 1:17:04.920
<v Speaker 2>how much information I found about him and then the

1:17:05.040 --> 1:17:07.719
<v Speaker 2>lack of information about her outside of what a slug

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<v Speaker 2>you know, no, wa, it's it's just fucking tragic.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, his wife obviously divorced him too, And I know

1:17:18.360 --> 1:17:22.360
<v Speaker 2>it's an attorney's job to protect their client and represent them,

1:17:22.520 --> 1:17:27.000
<v Speaker 2>but his attorneys' comments were so fucked up. So his attorney,

1:17:27.000 --> 1:17:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Peter Tillham, told The New York Times that he was

1:17:30.200 --> 1:17:33.320
<v Speaker 2>just maintaining contact with the outside world, and to suggest

1:17:33.360 --> 1:17:35.519
<v Speaker 2>that this is in some way dangerous to the public,

1:17:35.880 --> 1:17:38.080
<v Speaker 2>or that he's trying to meet girls is just silly.

1:17:38.560 --> 1:17:42.720
<v Speaker 2>It's silly given his pass Like, oh my god, why

1:17:42.760 --> 1:17:45.080
<v Speaker 2>else would he be on this pen pal site? Obviously

1:17:45.160 --> 1:17:48.800
<v Speaker 2>to find right right to think we're the ones that

1:17:48.840 --> 1:17:50.880
<v Speaker 2>are wrong, thinking that he's going to do this poorly.

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<v Speaker 1>So this attorney, fuck this guy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, is he penpaling with any dudes?

1:17:54.800 --> 1:17:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Is he penpaling with any like forty year old dudes,

1:17:57.760 --> 1:18:00.920
<v Speaker 1>because that's contact. Sure, those guys have cool stories, can

1:18:00.960 --> 1:18:04.439
<v Speaker 1>tell you about football or whatever. Such a good point.

1:18:05.880 --> 1:18:09.519
<v Speaker 2>But this is where my detective little thing was going

1:18:09.560 --> 1:18:12.720
<v Speaker 2>off is and it says in his dislikes on this

1:18:12.800 --> 1:18:15.920
<v Speaker 2>pen Po website, it said he doesn't like dishonesty, lies,

1:18:16.080 --> 1:18:19.920
<v Speaker 2>and disrespect and disrespect. To me, like saying that is

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<v Speaker 2>a red flag because it makes me feel that choking

1:18:22.720 --> 1:18:25.559
<v Speaker 2>was more deliberate, like she could have maybe laughed or

1:18:25.680 --> 1:18:27.360
<v Speaker 2>was not into it or said like I want to

1:18:27.400 --> 1:18:30.160
<v Speaker 2>go back to them, like who knows. But for that,

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<v Speaker 2>for disrespect to be one of your big pet peeves

1:18:33.400 --> 1:18:36.560
<v Speaker 2>to me is a sign that you're an unhinged lunatic. Yeah,

1:18:36.840 --> 1:18:37.880
<v Speaker 2>what's disrespect?

1:18:38.360 --> 1:18:42.559
<v Speaker 1>That's one of your main dislikes is being disrespected. That's crazy.

1:18:43.120 --> 1:18:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't like cilantro, you know what I mean.

1:18:46.320 --> 1:18:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So to me, it's like it just reminds me

1:18:50.000 --> 1:18:53.320
<v Speaker 2>of every bad person, Like because disrespect to me means

1:18:53.320 --> 1:18:56.880
<v Speaker 2>that you're doing anything that's not what I'm saying. Yeah,

1:18:56.920 --> 1:18:59.439
<v Speaker 2>and this accent. I mean, he's in jail for thirty years,

1:18:59.479 --> 1:19:04.280
<v Speaker 2>so like good. But I don't think it was an accident.

1:19:05.120 --> 1:19:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I.

1:19:06.200 --> 1:19:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Just with that one quote, that's just my that's just

1:19:09.120 --> 1:19:13.439
<v Speaker 2>my opinion. This case caught the attention of Congress, though,

1:19:13.479 --> 1:19:16.000
<v Speaker 2>and was the reason the House of Representatives voted three

1:19:16.040 --> 1:19:18.920
<v Speaker 2>hundred and ninety six to eleven to broaden the power

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<v Speaker 2>of investigators to seek wiretaps for suspected sexual predators. And

1:19:24.120 --> 1:19:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't actually know if that's good or bad, but

1:19:27.000 --> 1:19:28.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling yeah, because I don't know if it's like

1:19:28.600 --> 1:19:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Patriot Acts stuff where it's like, Okay, well now you're

1:19:30.720 --> 1:19:32.559
<v Speaker 2>taking this case to now like fuck.

1:19:32.360 --> 1:19:33.600
<v Speaker 1>With all of our celebrities.

1:19:34.080 --> 1:19:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Or is this good to make sure these fucking

1:19:36.520 --> 1:19:38.120
<v Speaker 2>sexual predators are not?

1:19:38.680 --> 1:19:39.479
<v Speaker 4>We need Munch.

1:19:39.800 --> 1:19:42.200
<v Speaker 1>We need Munch to come and tell us what's what's

1:19:42.240 --> 1:19:44.080
<v Speaker 1>what on this? We need Munch.

1:19:45.360 --> 1:19:49.000
<v Speaker 2>And then for some reason, the Westchester magazine wrote about

1:19:49.000 --> 1:19:53.600
<v Speaker 2>this case and quoted the former manager of Dunkin Donuts

1:19:54.080 --> 1:19:56.000
<v Speaker 2>who said that she used to order her bagels with

1:19:56.040 --> 1:19:59.479
<v Speaker 2>strawberry cream cheese. So I guess I was wanting more

1:19:59.479 --> 1:20:02.760
<v Speaker 2>information about her. And I love strawberry.

1:20:03.000 --> 1:20:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, it's like when you're thirteen, it's like

1:20:06.960 --> 1:20:09.360
<v Speaker 1>you do cheerleading and you hang out with your friends

1:20:09.360 --> 1:20:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and you get bagels with strawberry cream cheese. I don't

1:20:11.760 --> 1:20:13.360
<v Speaker 1>know if there's it's.

1:20:13.280 --> 1:20:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Just wild for a paper, this magazine to like go

1:20:16.439 --> 1:20:18.600
<v Speaker 2>talk to the Dunkin Donuts manager.

1:20:18.400 --> 1:20:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, it's just so sad because this is like

1:20:22.160 --> 1:20:24.320
<v Speaker 1>this guy knew who to go after. Like he's going

1:20:24.360 --> 1:20:27.280
<v Speaker 1>after a girl who's vulnerable, who's like young and has

1:20:27.320 --> 1:20:30.479
<v Speaker 1>had like probably most likely some trauma in her life. Right,

1:20:30.520 --> 1:20:32.680
<v Speaker 1>she's not living with her biological parents and they were

1:20:33.040 --> 1:20:37.519
<v Speaker 1>substance abusers. Like it's just really tragic the whole thing.

1:20:38.160 --> 1:20:41.200
<v Speaker 2>It is really tragic, and it's dangerous to meet people online.

1:20:41.240 --> 1:20:44.200
<v Speaker 2>And I mean this episode's from season nine and now

1:20:44.240 --> 1:20:48.080
<v Speaker 2>it's like so much of meeting people is from the internet.

1:20:48.240 --> 1:20:53.559
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like kind of crazy to think about. Yeah,

1:20:53.600 --> 1:20:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and it's like where would you go now to like

1:20:57.120 --> 1:20:59.800
<v Speaker 1>meet people online, like not Tinder, like if you were

1:20:59.840 --> 1:21:02.519
<v Speaker 1>like thirteen or something like that, Like, because are there

1:21:02.600 --> 1:21:05.560
<v Speaker 1>still chat rooms like AOL and like, I feel like

1:21:05.640 --> 1:21:08.080
<v Speaker 1>most people are on message boards like Reddit and shit,

1:21:08.120 --> 1:21:09.880
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. I'm sure there are chat rooms

1:21:09.920 --> 1:21:11.360
<v Speaker 1>that I just like don't know about. But when I

1:21:11.439 --> 1:21:13.840
<v Speaker 1>was when I was this girl's exact age, when I

1:21:13.840 --> 1:21:15.640
<v Speaker 1>was like eleven and twelve, I would go on to

1:21:15.760 --> 1:21:18.479
<v Speaker 1>AOL when I was babysitting, and I would tell people

1:21:18.520 --> 1:21:20.479
<v Speaker 1>I was in college and I would flirt with guys

1:21:20.560 --> 1:21:24.040
<v Speaker 1>like over I am, you know, and like there were

1:21:24.120 --> 1:21:26.920
<v Speaker 1>chatrooms in AOL. There were chatrooms an instant messenger. But

1:21:26.920 --> 1:21:28.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know what if that stuff's all like

1:21:28.920 --> 1:21:31.760
<v Speaker 1>around anymore. I don't know what the new frontier is.

1:21:32.280 --> 1:21:35.000
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I've discussed this before, the frustration of

1:21:35.080 --> 1:21:37.759
<v Speaker 2>like the Christian right pretending they care about sex workers

1:21:37.800 --> 1:21:40.719
<v Speaker 2>but just like fucking with porn hub, yeah, and taking

1:21:40.760 --> 1:21:45.439
<v Speaker 2>away people's stream of money. But Facebook has more human

1:21:45.479 --> 1:21:49.800
<v Speaker 2>trafficking instances than porn hub ever, will like, yeah, millions more.

1:21:49.920 --> 1:21:52.080
<v Speaker 1>So I know you're right. I bet people are just

1:21:52.160 --> 1:21:54.519
<v Speaker 1>messaging on Facebook and shit too. I just don't think

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<v Speaker 1>of that as something that like teens use anymore because

1:21:57.439 --> 1:22:01.400
<v Speaker 1>it seems so old. But I bet there's something Instagram,

1:22:01.479 --> 1:22:04.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, and Instagram too, like, and I know they

1:22:04.880 --> 1:22:09.120
<v Speaker 1>changed Craigslist, but like, yeah, Craigslist I think was the place.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I it's just really scary.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm literally asking because I'm like, what websites

1:22:17.560 --> 1:22:19.280
<v Speaker 1>am I supposed to keep my children off of?

1:22:19.439 --> 1:22:22.080
<v Speaker 4>Like eventually, you know, like I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to figure that all out because I have a

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<v Speaker 2>really distinct memory from eighth grade where this girl was

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<v Speaker 2>dating a twenty two year old really and we were

1:22:31.439 --> 1:22:32.400
<v Speaker 2>like looking at photos.

1:22:32.600 --> 1:22:33.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was fucked.

1:22:33.840 --> 1:22:37.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's why it's like these men are predators.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't really know what to do, but I do remember

1:22:41.439 --> 1:22:43.559
<v Speaker 2>this friend I had was dating at twenty two year

1:22:43.560 --> 1:22:44.719
<v Speaker 2>old in eighth grade.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so crazy. Yeah, I remember like a camper that

1:22:49.320 --> 1:22:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I had who and who actually now is one of

1:22:51.160 --> 1:22:53.240
<v Speaker 1>my friends because she's only like four years younger than me.

1:22:53.680 --> 1:22:56.960
<v Speaker 1>But I remember when I was like sixteen, I went

1:22:57.000 --> 1:22:58.360
<v Speaker 1>to go to the Little Girls camp and she had

1:22:58.360 --> 1:23:01.479
<v Speaker 1>a picture of like her boyfriend and she was twelve

1:23:01.520 --> 1:23:03.559
<v Speaker 1>and he was like sixteen or seventeen, and I was like,

1:23:03.600 --> 1:23:06.960
<v Speaker 1>this is making me feel uncomfortable. But she looked really old,

1:23:07.120 --> 1:23:09.280
<v Speaker 1>like this girl has looked like she was an adult

1:23:09.320 --> 1:23:10.679
<v Speaker 1>since she was like ten or eleven.

1:23:11.240 --> 1:23:12.840
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, no, I'm.

1:23:12.680 --> 1:23:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Not saying he's oh, I'm not saying he's no I know,

1:23:15.320 --> 1:23:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, these are the kind of girls. I

1:23:17.000 --> 1:23:20.479
<v Speaker 1>think sometimes these guys you were also young, right, Because

1:23:20.520 --> 1:23:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I was saying, because when I see kids now, you

1:23:24.200 --> 1:23:27.480
<v Speaker 1>can tell they're a kid. Yeah, Like to you at sixteen,

1:23:27.680 --> 1:23:29.880
<v Speaker 1>you probably thought you looked more mature too, and then

1:23:29.920 --> 1:23:31.479
<v Speaker 1>you looked at this kid and you're like, whoa, you

1:23:31.520 --> 1:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>look mature. But like if you're twenty five, you know

1:23:34.040 --> 1:23:36.160
<v Speaker 1>those you know that that's a thirteen or a twelve

1:23:36.200 --> 1:23:36.599
<v Speaker 1>year old girl.

1:23:36.800 --> 1:23:38.400
<v Speaker 2>When I even see college and even now when I

1:23:38.439 --> 1:23:40.120
<v Speaker 2>go out to bars are like out and about and

1:23:40.120 --> 1:23:42.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking I mean, I mean, I'm staying in Williamsburg

1:23:42.200 --> 1:23:44.320
<v Speaker 2>right now, and it's like, these people are young. These

1:23:44.320 --> 1:23:46.840
<v Speaker 2>are the children. I'm sure they're twenty two, twenty three,

1:23:46.880 --> 1:23:50.479
<v Speaker 2>but even that to me looks so young.

1:23:51.080 --> 1:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but these guys, it's like, I don't even what it's.

1:23:55.400 --> 1:23:57.479
<v Speaker 1>It's what they're attracted to. But it's also the fact

1:23:57.479 --> 1:23:59.120
<v Speaker 1>that they can like tell them what to do, like

1:23:59.160 --> 1:24:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a twenty year old might tell them, like her thoughts

1:24:02.000 --> 1:24:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and opinions, but they think a thirteen year old, fourteen

1:24:04.439 --> 1:24:06.559
<v Speaker 1>year old, fifteen year old, that's a girl that thinks

1:24:06.600 --> 1:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm older and cool and I can control everything that

1:24:08.760 --> 1:24:11.360
<v Speaker 1>they do. You know, on top of the fact that

1:24:11.360 --> 1:24:15.120
<v Speaker 1>they're probably pedophiles that are like attracted to the young. Anyway,

1:24:15.760 --> 1:24:20.400
<v Speaker 1>we do have an amazing interview as always to cleanse

1:24:20.439 --> 1:24:31.400
<v Speaker 1>your palette of all the sadness, So stay where you are, guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Our guest today is Svu Royalty.

1:24:35.040 --> 1:24:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Besides being an actor, she's also an acclaimed author with

1:24:38.040 --> 1:24:41.360
<v Speaker 1>a New York Times bestselling memoir Excuse Me called Happens

1:24:41.400 --> 1:24:45.320
<v Speaker 1>every Day, And you know her as the woman behind

1:24:45.320 --> 1:24:48.360
<v Speaker 1>the man who keeps Svu afloat and is constantly abandoned

1:24:48.360 --> 1:24:49.679
<v Speaker 1>by her negligent husband.

1:24:50.400 --> 1:24:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Guys, we got Stabler. We got Kathy Stabler.

1:24:54.960 --> 1:24:59.799
<v Speaker 1>Please enjoy our chat with the very talented and lovely

1:25:00.080 --> 1:25:00.879
<v Speaker 1>is the Belle Gillies.

1:25:01.520 --> 1:25:03.400
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, so happy, so great to.

1:25:03.360 --> 1:25:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Meet you at great to meet one of my This

1:25:06.920 --> 1:25:09.160
<v Speaker 1>is my first booking on this podcast that came through

1:25:09.160 --> 1:25:12.639
<v Speaker 1>my camp connections, and I'm really excited. I'm really excited

1:25:12.680 --> 1:25:15.400
<v Speaker 1>about it. I was it's so funny I was at

1:25:15.439 --> 1:25:17.320
<v Speaker 1>camp this summer. I took my kids to the family

1:25:17.360 --> 1:25:19.559
<v Speaker 1>camp and I was sitting with Jeremy Cutler and he

1:25:19.680 --> 1:25:22.120
<v Speaker 1>was like, how's your podcast doing? And he goes, you know,

1:25:22.240 --> 1:25:24.400
<v Speaker 1>one of the moms of the campers is on that show.

1:25:24.439 --> 1:25:25.639
<v Speaker 4>And I go who?

1:25:25.760 --> 1:25:27.599
<v Speaker 2>And he told me you, and I go, I go, yeah,

1:25:27.640 --> 1:25:28.719
<v Speaker 2>I think we're trying to get.

1:25:28.560 --> 1:25:29.320
<v Speaker 4>In touch with her.

1:25:29.400 --> 1:25:32.800
<v Speaker 2>And then like I was just like, can you maybe

1:25:32.800 --> 1:25:33.920
<v Speaker 2>see if she's interested?

1:25:34.120 --> 1:25:35.439
<v Speaker 4>And I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, We're honored to have you here because the big

1:25:39.840 --> 1:25:44.719
<v Speaker 2>running joke comment of our podcast is that Elliott Stabler

1:25:44.760 --> 1:25:48.439
<v Speaker 2>is a terrible father and it's never home. You're just

1:25:48.640 --> 1:25:52.679
<v Speaker 2>constantly like he's never at their birthdays, he can't pick

1:25:52.720 --> 1:25:54.680
<v Speaker 2>up stuff. And then sometimes he'll pretend he'll be like,

1:25:54.920 --> 1:25:56.920
<v Speaker 2>got to pick up stuff for the twins' birthday.

1:25:56.960 --> 1:25:57.920
<v Speaker 4>He'll never pick it up.

1:25:58.600 --> 1:26:04.160
<v Speaker 2>And you, without your character, without Kathy, there would be

1:26:04.160 --> 1:26:07.240
<v Speaker 2>no Elliott Stabler and we just need to talk about.

1:26:07.040 --> 1:26:09.960
<v Speaker 4>That, and those five kids would be in foster care.

1:26:10.040 --> 1:26:15.559
<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, we just literally did a live show

1:26:16.040 --> 1:26:19.200
<v Speaker 1>where it's like one of these things where it was

1:26:19.640 --> 1:26:22.160
<v Speaker 1>there was the episode Wildlife where Elliott is like trying

1:26:22.160 --> 1:26:24.120
<v Speaker 1>to take down an animal smuggling ring, and you keep

1:26:24.160 --> 1:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>being like you come home and help with your baby,

1:26:26.479 --> 1:26:28.719
<v Speaker 1>and you open the door and you think it's Elliott,

1:26:28.760 --> 1:26:30.840
<v Speaker 1>but it's Olivia, and there's like this look of disappointment

1:26:30.840 --> 1:26:32.439
<v Speaker 1>on your face. And we took a screenshot of it

1:26:32.479 --> 1:26:34.040
<v Speaker 1>for our live show. We were like, this is the

1:26:34.080 --> 1:26:37.120
<v Speaker 1>face of a woman who's expecting her husband to come home,

1:26:37.160 --> 1:26:37.600
<v Speaker 1>but in s.

1:26:38.760 --> 1:26:42.599
<v Speaker 4>It's Murshkar, Yeah, his emotional affair.

1:26:42.760 --> 1:26:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Friends. I remember that.

1:26:44.600 --> 1:26:48.439
<v Speaker 5>I remember that episode because there was I think we

1:26:48.520 --> 1:26:52.880
<v Speaker 5>had like tigers on set. Yes, I think they're hyenas, yeah,

1:26:52.880 --> 1:26:56.240
<v Speaker 5>And I remember wanting to go and see them. But

1:26:56.600 --> 1:26:58.120
<v Speaker 5>you know, I was always in the house. I was

1:26:58.160 --> 1:27:01.840
<v Speaker 5>never around all the cool stuff every once in a while.

1:27:02.320 --> 1:27:05.240
<v Speaker 1>So how did you like Kathy's Stabler Journey? Like start?

1:27:05.320 --> 1:27:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Did you just like you just went in an auditioned

1:27:07.479 --> 1:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and were like, I don't even know what this is.

1:27:09.280 --> 1:27:10.960
<v Speaker 4>Was it like you were on season one?

1:27:11.760 --> 1:27:14.599
<v Speaker 5>I was on season one, episode one, So it wasn't

1:27:14.680 --> 1:27:16.160
<v Speaker 5>like I didn't know what it was because I had

1:27:16.160 --> 1:27:19.519
<v Speaker 5>already been on Law and Order, okay, and I was

1:27:19.560 --> 1:27:23.200
<v Speaker 5>on the mother Ship in a kind of big episode

1:27:23.280 --> 1:27:27.040
<v Speaker 5>called Bad Girl and with Sam Waterston and I got killed.

1:27:27.120 --> 1:27:32.200
<v Speaker 5>I was executed and I killed the cop. It was

1:27:32.200 --> 1:27:34.600
<v Speaker 5>like this huge And that's the thing about Law and

1:27:34.680 --> 1:27:36.479
<v Speaker 5>Order which was so fun, is that you could do

1:27:36.520 --> 1:27:40.040
<v Speaker 5>these huge range stuff, you know, so because there was

1:27:40.080 --> 1:27:43.639
<v Speaker 5>all sorts of you know, like murderers and all kinds

1:27:43.640 --> 1:27:47.080
<v Speaker 5>of things like that and crying. And I went in

1:27:47.640 --> 1:27:53.479
<v Speaker 5>for Ted Kotschaf and I think Dick Wolfe and I

1:27:53.520 --> 1:27:55.760
<v Speaker 5>had done the big thing, and so I went in

1:27:55.840 --> 1:27:57.680
<v Speaker 5>and it was like a CoP's wife and I was

1:27:57.720 --> 1:28:01.280
<v Speaker 5>twenty seven, I want to say, and I was like,

1:28:02.240 --> 1:28:07.400
<v Speaker 5>come on, this is you gotta hire me. It's like

1:28:07.720 --> 1:28:09.679
<v Speaker 5>and I'd been in for Alaw and Order like over

1:28:09.720 --> 1:28:11.800
<v Speaker 5>and over and over and over, as all New York

1:28:11.920 --> 1:28:14.320
<v Speaker 5>City actors are, and I was like, I think this

1:28:14.479 --> 1:28:17.880
<v Speaker 5>is kind of my part. And then they didn't. I

1:28:17.880 --> 1:28:20.400
<v Speaker 5>didn't hear from them or anything. And then the costume

1:28:20.400 --> 1:28:22.880
<v Speaker 5>person called me and was like, we just want to

1:28:22.880 --> 1:28:26.040
<v Speaker 5>set up a fitting and I was like why and

1:28:26.120 --> 1:28:27.760
<v Speaker 5>they were like, because you got the what do you

1:28:27.760 --> 1:28:31.160
<v Speaker 5>tell you about you're on the call sheet. I was like, okay, well,

1:28:31.200 --> 1:28:37.120
<v Speaker 5>first big part, yeah, to not hear about it, but yeah,

1:28:37.120 --> 1:28:37.920
<v Speaker 5>and then that was.

1:28:37.840 --> 1:28:41.040
<v Speaker 1>That was it and then that was that, and like

1:28:41.080 --> 1:28:43.040
<v Speaker 1>you had no idea it was going to go on

1:28:43.160 --> 1:28:44.479
<v Speaker 1>for like a million seasons.

1:28:45.360 --> 1:28:49.840
<v Speaker 5>No no. And I remember meeting Marushka and in the

1:28:49.920 --> 1:28:52.240
<v Speaker 5>trailer and like meeting Chris and being like, oh, I

1:28:52.680 --> 1:28:56.720
<v Speaker 5>you know, and then meeting and being like I then

1:28:57.479 --> 1:28:59.400
<v Speaker 5>went to the I think it was like a kindergarten room.

1:29:00.280 --> 1:29:03.479
<v Speaker 5>And I also before I had kids, so I was like, oh, play,

1:29:03.640 --> 1:29:05.400
<v Speaker 5>I'm like pretending to be a mom.

1:29:07.000 --> 1:29:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, if we're gonna talk about this episode, I you know,

1:29:10.760 --> 1:29:14.000
<v Speaker 2>we've both seen a sview tons of times. We've seen

1:29:14.000 --> 1:29:16.519
<v Speaker 2>this episode a bunch. We both teared up watching the

1:29:16.560 --> 1:29:20.599
<v Speaker 2>car crash. It was like such an incredible performance and

1:29:20.880 --> 1:29:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I just couldn't believe. We both separately went on to

1:29:23.280 --> 1:29:25.280
<v Speaker 2>record and we were both were like, this made us

1:29:25.320 --> 1:29:27.479
<v Speaker 2>cry even though we've seen it. It was I think

1:29:27.520 --> 1:29:29.840
<v Speaker 2>for me, Like for me, it was making me cry

1:29:29.880 --> 1:29:32.360
<v Speaker 2>because like I've now since i've seen this the last time,

1:29:32.400 --> 1:29:34.479
<v Speaker 2>I've now given birth twice and I was just like,

1:29:35.520 --> 1:29:38.360
<v Speaker 2>this is so hard. Like giving birth is traumatic enough,

1:29:38.400 --> 1:29:41.080
<v Speaker 2>like in a nice hospital bed with an epidural, and

1:29:41.120 --> 1:29:43.800
<v Speaker 2>then it's like you are in a freaking car with

1:29:43.880 --> 1:29:45.559
<v Speaker 2>the roof getting sawed off.

1:29:45.360 --> 1:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Your head is real policeman, Like, oh my god.

1:29:48.840 --> 1:29:51.280
<v Speaker 2>It was just like I just it felt so real

1:29:51.360 --> 1:29:53.280
<v Speaker 2>that I was like, I feel so bad for her,

1:29:53.360 --> 1:29:55.800
<v Speaker 2>even though like I know you were not giving birth

1:29:55.840 --> 1:29:56.560
<v Speaker 2>in it.

1:29:56.560 --> 1:29:58.880
<v Speaker 1>It was just how was it to shoot that?

1:29:59.240 --> 1:29:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Like?

1:30:00.400 --> 1:30:00.800
<v Speaker 3>It was?

1:30:01.040 --> 1:30:03.519
<v Speaker 5>So the producers came to me and they said something

1:30:03.560 --> 1:30:06.920
<v Speaker 5>were because I never knew was happening. And usually I

1:30:06.960 --> 1:30:12.240
<v Speaker 5>was a very minor I means, as important of a

1:30:12.320 --> 1:30:16.040
<v Speaker 5>role as Kathy is, because she is you know, you

1:30:16.040 --> 1:30:19.719
<v Speaker 5>can't as and Dick Wolf, I believe designed the part

1:30:19.880 --> 1:30:22.160
<v Speaker 5>this way so that you know he was going to

1:30:22.160 --> 1:30:26.320
<v Speaker 5>be a sex crimes detective and to sort of buttress

1:30:26.439 --> 1:30:28.720
<v Speaker 5>that and to make it legit you had to have

1:30:28.720 --> 1:30:29.719
<v Speaker 5>a family.

1:30:30.080 --> 1:30:30.639
<v Speaker 2>So it was an.

1:30:30.600 --> 1:30:33.960
<v Speaker 5>Important role, but not a very big Ultimately, not a

1:30:34.040 --> 1:30:36.840
<v Speaker 5>very big role. I I, you know, come in and

1:30:36.920 --> 1:30:39.960
<v Speaker 5>like be like you're not here, Like I'm over here.

1:30:40.280 --> 1:30:44.320
<v Speaker 5>The kid's going to you know. And so they came

1:30:44.360 --> 1:30:45.880
<v Speaker 5>to me and they were like, we're writing a big

1:30:45.920 --> 1:30:47.920
<v Speaker 5>episode for you, and we're not quite sure what it is,

1:30:47.960 --> 1:30:51.120
<v Speaker 5>but it's going to be something that's kind of a

1:30:51.479 --> 1:30:57.559
<v Speaker 5>big and something that's like health related. So either I

1:30:57.560 --> 1:30:59.240
<v Speaker 5>think it was going to be like she got sick

1:30:59.400 --> 1:31:01.200
<v Speaker 5>or she's something was going to happen to Kathy.

1:31:01.960 --> 1:31:02.479
<v Speaker 3>I was like, oh.

1:31:03.000 --> 1:31:05.599
<v Speaker 5>And then I got the script and it was really

1:31:05.680 --> 1:31:08.920
<v Speaker 5>the first time that I had worked very heavily with Marishka,

1:31:10.360 --> 1:31:12.639
<v Speaker 5>and we were friends, but not like the best friends

1:31:12.720 --> 1:31:15.320
<v Speaker 5>or anything. We were just like fred Lee on the set.

1:31:15.400 --> 1:31:20.960
<v Speaker 5>And the script was great and it was so so

1:31:21.040 --> 1:31:25.439
<v Speaker 5>the first day it's like an eight day shoot. Every

1:31:25.439 --> 1:31:28.559
<v Speaker 5>episode is an eighth day shoot pretty much. And then

1:31:29.120 --> 1:31:31.320
<v Speaker 5>the first day they they were like, all right, we're

1:31:31.320 --> 1:31:34.679
<v Speaker 5>going to crash these cars the car that I'm in.

1:31:35.960 --> 1:31:37.840
<v Speaker 5>The only way to get it to look like that

1:31:38.080 --> 1:31:41.639
<v Speaker 5>is to actually crash cars. So we were up shooting

1:31:41.680 --> 1:31:44.759
<v Speaker 5>in Harlum and Marishka and I got on the corner

1:31:44.960 --> 1:31:47.519
<v Speaker 5>and watched these cars. I mean, they have professionals. You

1:31:47.560 --> 1:31:52.200
<v Speaker 5>can professionally crash cars and it doesn't harm anyone. So

1:31:52.200 --> 1:31:56.479
<v Speaker 5>they crashed the cars, which was horrifying. So we started off,

1:31:56.479 --> 1:31:58.679
<v Speaker 5>and I don't know if the producers or the director

1:31:59.040 --> 1:32:05.680
<v Speaker 5>was aware of how impactful pun how you know, what

1:32:05.760 --> 1:32:08.559
<v Speaker 5>a meaningful way it was to start off that shoot.

1:32:08.720 --> 1:32:12.680
<v Speaker 5>But also we shot pretty much sequentially, so sometimes you'll like,

1:32:12.760 --> 1:32:16.720
<v Speaker 5>shoot we could, so we shot the car crash, but

1:32:16.800 --> 1:32:19.240
<v Speaker 5>deep deep de de and then the berth and then

1:32:19.280 --> 1:32:21.080
<v Speaker 5>the you know, it wasn't like we could have started

1:32:21.120 --> 1:32:25.000
<v Speaker 5>with a berth that just like that's but it's really

1:32:25.000 --> 1:32:27.120
<v Speaker 5>good that we didn't in that way because we could

1:32:27.160 --> 1:32:30.000
<v Speaker 5>see the car crash. That was really upsetting. And what

1:32:30.040 --> 1:32:34.479
<v Speaker 5>they do is they vacuum all the glass out and

1:32:34.560 --> 1:32:39.880
<v Speaker 5>put in fake glass, you know, rubber glass. So every

1:32:39.960 --> 1:32:43.120
<v Speaker 5>day we would like it took four days to shoot that,

1:32:43.680 --> 1:32:48.959
<v Speaker 5>so we would like crawl into the crashed car and

1:32:49.040 --> 1:32:51.400
<v Speaker 5>then they'd put blood all over us and put the

1:32:51.400 --> 1:32:54.000
<v Speaker 5>glass all over us. And then to do the Jaws

1:32:54.040 --> 1:32:58.000
<v Speaker 5>of life, they had real the whole thing. They have

1:32:58.360 --> 1:33:03.200
<v Speaker 5>an I think always online or there's they have real

1:33:04.120 --> 1:33:09.080
<v Speaker 5>fire department and real police officers. So and it's a

1:33:09.120 --> 1:33:13.840
<v Speaker 5>mix of like actors and playing fire department people.

1:33:13.920 --> 1:33:15.439
<v Speaker 4>And I don't know if we knew that, I'd ever

1:33:15.479 --> 1:33:15.760
<v Speaker 4>heard that.

1:33:16.640 --> 1:33:21.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And so one thing that was incredible was that.

1:33:22.120 --> 1:33:26.000
<v Speaker 5>And you're acting the whole time, and and when you're acting,

1:33:27.760 --> 1:33:32.840
<v Speaker 5>you know modestly like well, when it's when it's when

1:33:32.840 --> 1:33:35.400
<v Speaker 5>it's happening, when you like really truly believe you're in

1:33:35.439 --> 1:33:38.599
<v Speaker 5>the car craft, which which I did. Like you something

1:33:38.680 --> 1:33:40.880
<v Speaker 5>clicks in your you're like playing for tend. It's like

1:33:41.160 --> 1:33:43.800
<v Speaker 5>you know when you're playing pretend when you're little, and

1:33:44.240 --> 1:33:46.879
<v Speaker 5>like I used to play Little House in the Prairie

1:33:46.920 --> 1:33:49.200
<v Speaker 5>and stuff like that when I was little in the forest,

1:33:49.320 --> 1:33:53.000
<v Speaker 5>and I would pretend so hard and like imagine so

1:33:53.160 --> 1:33:55.960
<v Speaker 5>hard that I really thought I was, you know, making

1:33:56.120 --> 1:33:59.439
<v Speaker 5>stew with pine needles and stuff like that. So I

1:33:59.520 --> 1:34:02.560
<v Speaker 5>was like imagining my way into being in this situation.

1:34:03.600 --> 1:34:05.479
<v Speaker 5>And then I really felt like I was in the situation.

1:34:05.640 --> 1:34:08.120
<v Speaker 5>And then when you're doing that, like the vibe that

1:34:08.200 --> 1:34:11.839
<v Speaker 5>comes off you is feels real. So then I remember

1:34:11.880 --> 1:34:18.840
<v Speaker 5>a real fireman getting all like freaked out, welled up,

1:34:19.040 --> 1:34:22.599
<v Speaker 5>and after he was like whoa, it's like, yeah, you're

1:34:22.720 --> 1:34:25.680
<v Speaker 5>like in it, you know, yeah, because they had you know,

1:34:26.520 --> 1:34:32.759
<v Speaker 5>you can't operate an actor can't operate Jaws of Life, right,

1:34:33.120 --> 1:34:38.160
<v Speaker 5>those big huge scissors that cut metal. That professional has

1:34:38.160 --> 1:34:39.720
<v Speaker 5>to do that. So they had to be I mean,

1:34:39.760 --> 1:34:41.639
<v Speaker 5>if you watch it, you'll see it's like a real

1:34:42.040 --> 1:34:46.120
<v Speaker 5>fireman and real fire trucks. We can't drive. Actors can't

1:34:46.200 --> 1:34:47.160
<v Speaker 5>drive fire trucks.

1:34:47.600 --> 1:34:51.719
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, they could sit in one for a minute,

1:34:51.840 --> 1:34:54.920
<v Speaker 6>but you know, the not seeing the fire trucks come in,

1:34:55.040 --> 1:34:58.439
<v Speaker 6>they shut down the whole neighborhood.

1:34:58.000 --> 1:35:02.840
<v Speaker 5>And then it's there must have been ten vehicles of

1:35:03.160 --> 1:35:06.240
<v Speaker 5>some sort with their you know, so it felt.

1:35:05.960 --> 1:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Really real and they just had to set that up

1:35:08.000 --> 1:35:11.439
<v Speaker 1>like every day for four days. While that's wild.

1:35:11.560 --> 1:35:14.599
<v Speaker 5>Oh it's huge what they do, it's huge.

1:35:14.640 --> 1:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>And then so you said, like you and Marishka, did

1:35:17.200 --> 1:35:19.320
<v Speaker 1>you guys become better friends after that episode?

1:35:19.680 --> 1:35:20.240
<v Speaker 3>That was it?

1:35:20.600 --> 1:35:23.680
<v Speaker 5>That was like we were in there and you know,

1:35:23.840 --> 1:35:26.840
<v Speaker 5>she's saving my life and saving my baby, and I'm

1:35:26.960 --> 1:35:31.160
<v Speaker 5>and I'm very much giving her what she needs to

1:35:31.520 --> 1:35:33.800
<v Speaker 5>feel like it was. I mean, we were really just

1:35:33.960 --> 1:35:37.280
<v Speaker 5>locked into each other and we were kind of like, oh, Hi,

1:35:37.400 --> 1:35:39.880
<v Speaker 5>who are you joining them to my wedding? I was

1:35:39.920 --> 1:35:44.280
<v Speaker 5>getting married in real life right after that, and I

1:35:44.320 --> 1:35:46.400
<v Speaker 5>was like, I think you have to come to my wedding.

1:35:46.439 --> 1:35:50.040
<v Speaker 5>She's like, yes, I believe I have to. So now

1:35:50.080 --> 1:35:51.439
<v Speaker 5>we're really really good friends.

1:35:51.560 --> 1:35:54.960
<v Speaker 4>I loved us before you had kids. Yeah, so what.

1:35:54.960 --> 1:35:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Gave you the No?

1:35:56.960 --> 1:35:59.560
<v Speaker 5>It was after I had kids, So you knew I

1:35:59.680 --> 1:36:04.120
<v Speaker 5>love this episode because it was like eight years in

1:36:04.320 --> 1:36:08.760
<v Speaker 5>or ten years Yeah, maybe, so I had had kids,

1:36:09.000 --> 1:36:12.480
<v Speaker 5>so I got before I got the part. I got engaged,

1:36:12.640 --> 1:36:16.719
<v Speaker 5>I got married, I had two kids all on the show.

1:36:17.280 --> 1:36:21.439
<v Speaker 5>I got divorced, I got engaged, and I got married

1:36:21.439 --> 1:36:23.720
<v Speaker 5>all one.

1:36:24.479 --> 1:36:28.720
<v Speaker 1>Wow, Kathy Sable A busy Wait, it was ten, So

1:36:29.200 --> 1:36:31.240
<v Speaker 1>you had already had kids when you did this, so

1:36:31.320 --> 1:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>you were already like you already knew the process of

1:36:34.200 --> 1:36:36.320
<v Speaker 1>like how oh my god, and you're just like in

1:36:36.360 --> 1:36:38.880
<v Speaker 1>an ambulance passing out giving birth. Oh my god.

1:36:39.320 --> 1:36:41.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's part the pushing part. I felt like I

1:36:42.120 --> 1:36:45.080
<v Speaker 5>was pretty authentic. And then passing out. I was like,

1:36:45.720 --> 1:36:47.799
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, I never even got close to passing

1:36:47.840 --> 1:36:50.400
<v Speaker 5>out when I was really having kids, So that was

1:36:50.439 --> 1:36:51.040
<v Speaker 5>just like a.

1:36:52.960 --> 1:36:55.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, Well, I was just gonna say you had

1:36:55.439 --> 1:36:58.479
<v Speaker 1>this marriage with Christopher Maloney for years, like obviously you

1:36:58.520 --> 1:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>guys see you seem to have a good rapport on screen.

1:37:02.120 --> 1:37:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Tell us like, we've talked to a lot you know,

1:37:04.439 --> 1:37:06.880
<v Speaker 1>you're our one hundredth guests. Actually we will mention it,

1:37:07.760 --> 1:37:12.800
<v Speaker 1>you're a one hundredth guest isolation, and we like, so

1:37:12.880 --> 1:37:15.320
<v Speaker 1>we've talked to ninety nine other actors who have worked

1:37:15.360 --> 1:37:17.519
<v Speaker 1>on the show, some not with him, because obviously he

1:37:17.600 --> 1:37:20.559
<v Speaker 1>left halfway through, but you know, most people tell us

1:37:20.560 --> 1:37:23.000
<v Speaker 1>he was really nice, but kind of serious and just

1:37:23.040 --> 1:37:26.320
<v Speaker 1>like off doing his own thing. We hear, we hear

1:37:26.320 --> 1:37:28.840
<v Speaker 1>about Marishka. We hear she's like an angel on earth

1:37:28.880 --> 1:37:32.800
<v Speaker 1>and like, you know, God's gift to being the number

1:37:32.880 --> 1:37:35.720
<v Speaker 1>one on the show. And so I'm just wondering, Like,

1:37:35.800 --> 1:37:37.599
<v Speaker 1>you guys seem like you have like a fun rapport

1:37:37.640 --> 1:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>you and Maloney. You're like smiling and joking and stuff.

1:37:40.400 --> 1:37:42.479
<v Speaker 1>So like, what was your relationship like with him?

1:37:43.200 --> 1:37:45.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we had We always had a good time together.

1:37:45.360 --> 1:37:48.439
<v Speaker 5>We always I mean, you know, I think when you

1:37:48.479 --> 1:37:51.120
<v Speaker 5>do a show every day for fifteen hours a day,

1:37:51.320 --> 1:37:55.160
<v Speaker 5>there's just things you need to do to preserve your

1:37:55.200 --> 1:37:59.360
<v Speaker 5>sanity and and and everyone's different, right, So Marushka I

1:37:59.400 --> 1:38:03.240
<v Speaker 5>think gets a lot of energy from being super connected

1:38:03.400 --> 1:38:07.479
<v Speaker 5>to everyone on the set and you know, just very

1:38:08.200 --> 1:38:12.439
<v Speaker 5>giving of herself. I'm sure there's things she does to also,

1:38:13.080 --> 1:38:15.880
<v Speaker 5>you know, keep you know, get from her abundance, not

1:38:15.920 --> 1:38:18.800
<v Speaker 5>from her essence. Right, So she and Chris just has

1:38:18.840 --> 1:38:22.240
<v Speaker 5>different So Chris is you know, has had a dressing room,

1:38:22.280 --> 1:38:24.160
<v Speaker 5>and it was he was in there a lot, but

1:38:24.200 --> 1:38:27.160
<v Speaker 5>he was doing his thing or wherever, but we had

1:38:27.280 --> 1:38:30.400
<v Speaker 5>I mean, the two of us and whoever whatever kid

1:38:30.439 --> 1:38:33.879
<v Speaker 5>was on set had a kind of like we're family,

1:38:34.080 --> 1:38:39.719
<v Speaker 5>we are playing a family. We are It was sort

1:38:39.720 --> 1:38:46.160
<v Speaker 5>of even though he you know, was like never home

1:38:46.360 --> 1:38:49.400
<v Speaker 5>and he ended, you know, everyone was really rooting for

1:38:49.520 --> 1:38:52.280
<v Speaker 5>him in Marishka all the time. There was sort of

1:38:52.320 --> 1:38:56.400
<v Speaker 5>a baseline understanding that we were playing a family, like

1:38:56.439 --> 1:39:02.479
<v Speaker 5>the world whoever was going to watch it needed to

1:39:02.960 --> 1:39:07.600
<v Speaker 5>believe in us as a family and I It was

1:39:07.680 --> 1:39:11.240
<v Speaker 5>unspoken for sure, but there was a very sort of

1:39:11.439 --> 1:39:17.120
<v Speaker 5>loving vibe. Not in not like we weren't best buds,

1:39:17.160 --> 1:39:18.760
<v Speaker 5>like I don't even think I have a cell phone

1:39:18.840 --> 1:39:21.559
<v Speaker 5>number how to do, but like it wasn't like we

1:39:21.560 --> 1:39:24.560
<v Speaker 5>were texting being like let's let's you know, go on

1:39:24.640 --> 1:39:25.840
<v Speaker 5>vacation together or whatever.

1:39:25.920 --> 1:39:26.479
<v Speaker 3>It was just.

1:39:28.200 --> 1:39:34.400
<v Speaker 5>A mutual respect maybe and and also very professional, like

1:39:34.520 --> 1:39:36.760
<v Speaker 5>we'd arrive in the set and be like, how you know,

1:39:37.000 --> 1:39:39.680
<v Speaker 5>let's go do our thing. What was hard for me

1:39:39.720 --> 1:39:42.360
<v Speaker 5>as an actor is that I didn't work every day.

1:39:43.400 --> 1:39:47.559
<v Speaker 5>So every it's like it's like if everyone's running across country,

1:39:47.640 --> 1:39:49.280
<v Speaker 5>you know what I mean, and they're just in a

1:39:49.360 --> 1:39:52.280
<v Speaker 5>pace and going, and then I'd have to like run

1:39:52.280 --> 1:39:55.000
<v Speaker 5>in from the sidelines and catch up. And it was

1:39:55.040 --> 1:39:58.120
<v Speaker 5>hard because I just, you know, acting is a lot

1:39:58.200 --> 1:40:02.960
<v Speaker 5>about muscle memory and just knowing the there's fifty people

1:40:03.000 --> 1:40:05.880
<v Speaker 5>on the set, like knowing everyone's names and it feels

1:40:05.960 --> 1:40:07.800
<v Speaker 5>like a family. Well, it doesn't really feel like a

1:40:07.840 --> 1:40:10.240
<v Speaker 5>family if you're only working once every six weeks or

1:40:11.040 --> 1:40:14.280
<v Speaker 5>once a month or whatever. So you know, sometimes in

1:40:14.320 --> 1:40:16.280
<v Speaker 5>the beginning, I'd be on set and they'd be like

1:40:16.400 --> 1:40:17.320
<v Speaker 5>kind of like, who are you?

1:40:17.479 --> 1:40:18.440
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, I'm.

1:40:18.240 --> 1:40:23.160
<v Speaker 5>Katie Stabler, like know who I am, But you know,

1:40:23.240 --> 1:40:25.840
<v Speaker 5>they didn't because I wasn't on set a lot. So

1:40:26.040 --> 1:40:28.640
<v Speaker 5>then it was like this big role and then not

1:40:28.760 --> 1:40:33.280
<v Speaker 5>a lot of you know, practice in a way. And

1:40:33.360 --> 1:40:37.679
<v Speaker 5>the first first season, I was on two shows. Oh

1:40:37.800 --> 1:40:40.880
<v Speaker 5>I was on an NBC show too, on the Street.

1:40:40.960 --> 1:40:43.919
<v Speaker 5>It was a Darren Starr show where I played a stripper,

1:40:44.040 --> 1:40:46.320
<v Speaker 5>so and she was like stripper with a heart of gold,

1:40:46.360 --> 1:40:48.639
<v Speaker 5>and I'm playing the other like cop mom on another.

1:40:48.760 --> 1:40:51.439
<v Speaker 4>So it was just like, you know, wow, what a

1:40:51.439 --> 1:40:52.800
<v Speaker 4>busy year for you.

1:40:53.520 --> 1:40:55.200
<v Speaker 5>I was busy then. And then I had a b.

1:40:57.400 --> 1:41:02.080
<v Speaker 2>And moved to Ohio, So oh, really, you moved to

1:41:02.120 --> 1:41:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Ohio and then you would just like come back to

1:41:04.640 --> 1:41:05.200
<v Speaker 2>do Kathy.

1:41:06.360 --> 1:41:08.760
<v Speaker 5>And then so I moved My ex husband is a

1:41:08.840 --> 1:41:14.240
<v Speaker 5>poetry professor, and we moved to Ohio so he could

1:41:14.800 --> 1:41:17.400
<v Speaker 5>do his job, and they'd fly me in and they

1:41:17.400 --> 1:41:19.240
<v Speaker 5>were about to kind of write me off the show.

1:41:19.280 --> 1:41:22.680
<v Speaker 5>I think, man, I don't know that. But we were

1:41:22.680 --> 1:41:24.880
<v Speaker 5>getting a divorce. I don't know if you remember, like yeah,

1:41:24.960 --> 1:41:27.120
<v Speaker 5>Chris and I were getting a divorced and then we

1:41:27.200 --> 1:41:29.640
<v Speaker 5>were literally did anybody know it? But I was My

1:41:29.800 --> 1:41:33.080
<v Speaker 5>husband was leaving me. So I came back to New

1:41:33.160 --> 1:41:36.040
<v Speaker 5>York with my two kids. I've written a whole book

1:41:36.040 --> 1:41:41.800
<v Speaker 5>about this, by the way, and moved in with my

1:41:41.880 --> 1:41:46.760
<v Speaker 5>parents and lost thirty pounds and I had There was

1:41:46.800 --> 1:41:49.680
<v Speaker 5>an episode where I think I was going to like

1:41:49.720 --> 1:41:53.400
<v Speaker 5>get divorced, like sign the papers, and I came back

1:41:53.439 --> 1:41:57.599
<v Speaker 5>to shoot it and I was like thin and I

1:41:57.680 --> 1:42:00.600
<v Speaker 5>had this like mojo that was like, don't fuck with me,

1:42:00.880 --> 1:42:06.519
<v Speaker 5>and the producers were like, what is happening? Got written

1:42:06.680 --> 1:42:10.840
<v Speaker 5>back onto the show, didn't get the divorce, did paternity

1:42:11.280 --> 1:42:13.080
<v Speaker 5>like got it? I remember they were like, Kathy's going

1:42:13.120 --> 1:42:16.360
<v Speaker 5>to have a different wardrobe, She's gonna have gotten a job,

1:42:17.080 --> 1:42:19.920
<v Speaker 5>Like there's now me and Maurushka where I'm like in

1:42:19.960 --> 1:42:21.120
<v Speaker 5>a purple coat.

1:42:21.400 --> 1:42:24.120
<v Speaker 1>It was like Kathy's Stabler got her groove back for sure.

1:42:25.000 --> 1:42:27.599
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, because I got divorced in real life.

1:42:27.640 --> 1:42:31.559
<v Speaker 1>Well so then how did you feel then when they

1:42:31.560 --> 1:42:33.360
<v Speaker 1>wrote you back in? You get like kind of a

1:42:33.439 --> 1:42:35.880
<v Speaker 1>juicy thing whatever. And then in season twelve you would

1:42:35.920 --> 1:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>just like find out after that that Maloney's just not

1:42:38.080 --> 1:42:40.160
<v Speaker 1>coming back, and so the whole Stabler family is just

1:42:40.160 --> 1:42:40.639
<v Speaker 1>like goodbye.

1:42:40.720 --> 1:42:41.120
<v Speaker 3>What was that?

1:42:41.160 --> 1:42:42.759
<v Speaker 5>I find out on the internet.

1:42:43.280 --> 1:42:45.200
<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh.

1:42:45.600 --> 1:42:47.080
<v Speaker 5>They didn't even.

1:42:47.160 --> 1:42:49.439
<v Speaker 4>Call me, like they have the wrong number for you.

1:42:49.479 --> 1:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>They're calling some wrong person and being like, hi, you

1:42:52.040 --> 1:42:53.519
<v Speaker 1>have the role of Kathy's Stabler.

1:42:53.640 --> 1:42:54.120
<v Speaker 5>Hi yah.

1:42:54.160 --> 1:42:56.439
<v Speaker 1>The whole Stabler family is leaving. But it's like a

1:42:56.520 --> 1:43:01.519
<v Speaker 1>voicemail of a woman named Susan. Okay, so that was it.

1:43:01.840 --> 1:43:04.280
<v Speaker 5>I was like, oh, I guess I'm not having a

1:43:04.360 --> 1:43:09.200
<v Speaker 5>job anymore. So that was a barn But you know

1:43:09.320 --> 1:43:13.680
<v Speaker 5>then I I can't even remember when that was, but

1:43:13.880 --> 1:43:17.080
<v Speaker 5>I had think I don't remember when that was, but

1:43:17.240 --> 1:43:20.200
<v Speaker 5>I had become a writer, like I so I've written

1:43:20.200 --> 1:43:24.880
<v Speaker 5>four books and I just like I just shifted kind

1:43:24.920 --> 1:43:27.799
<v Speaker 5>of into a different career. Yeah, not that I wouldn't,

1:43:28.000 --> 1:43:31.040
<v Speaker 5>you know, if I had a friend or like, well

1:43:31.080 --> 1:43:33.120
<v Speaker 5>now I'm dead on Law and Order, but well you know,

1:43:33.840 --> 1:43:36.600
<v Speaker 5>but if they ever were like ghosts come back, you know,

1:43:36.920 --> 1:43:40.160
<v Speaker 5>i'd go back or whatever. But I uh, yeah, So

1:43:40.240 --> 1:43:44.040
<v Speaker 5>I just got a new career. And I also I

1:43:44.080 --> 1:43:48.000
<v Speaker 5>remember going to an audition for pan M. It was

1:43:48.040 --> 1:43:53.439
<v Speaker 5>going to be a big series about flight attendants, but

1:43:53.560 --> 1:43:55.439
<v Speaker 5>in the sixties, like it was going to be like.

1:43:55.400 --> 1:43:58.479
<v Speaker 1>I remember a commercials for Christina Ricci was in it.

1:43:59.200 --> 1:44:01.679
<v Speaker 5>She might have been in it, yeah, And I went

1:44:01.760 --> 1:44:04.880
<v Speaker 5>in for it and it was like a twenty five

1:44:04.960 --> 1:44:08.000
<v Speaker 5>year old who was the producer, and they were talking

1:44:08.040 --> 1:44:10.880
<v Speaker 5>about me, like no shade on them. But I just

1:44:10.920 --> 1:44:13.160
<v Speaker 5>did not have a very good experience with that audition

1:44:13.200 --> 1:44:14.960
<v Speaker 5>where I felt like I was being man's plain too

1:44:15.000 --> 1:44:17.600
<v Speaker 5>and they were like talking about me when I was

1:44:17.960 --> 1:44:20.760
<v Speaker 5>I was like, excuse me, I'm like a mother of

1:44:20.800 --> 1:44:23.080
<v Speaker 5>two and have been on television or in the movies

1:44:23.120 --> 1:44:26.880
<v Speaker 5>for like eighteen years or something like that, so don't

1:44:26.920 --> 1:44:29.400
<v Speaker 5>talk about me when I'm not there. And I left

1:44:29.439 --> 1:44:31.920
<v Speaker 5>the audition and called my current husband and I was like,

1:44:32.240 --> 1:44:34.599
<v Speaker 5>is it okay? I of course I'm asking permission, which

1:44:34.600 --> 1:44:35.600
<v Speaker 5>I probably wouldn't.

1:44:35.240 --> 1:44:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Do today, but haha.

1:44:36.080 --> 1:44:38.160
<v Speaker 5>I was like, if I'm quit, I just don't want

1:44:38.200 --> 1:44:40.479
<v Speaker 5>to act anymore. I don't want to go into that

1:44:40.760 --> 1:44:44.200
<v Speaker 5>kind of dynamic where I'm just this sort of like

1:44:45.040 --> 1:44:47.839
<v Speaker 5>they see me as I don't know, something less important

1:44:47.840 --> 1:44:50.000
<v Speaker 5>than I feel like I am. So I was like,

1:44:50.080 --> 1:44:50.479
<v Speaker 5>I'm out.

1:44:51.280 --> 1:44:53.040
<v Speaker 1>And did you always write?

1:44:53.960 --> 1:44:57.880
<v Speaker 5>No? Okay, no, no, no, I was dyslexic. I was like,

1:44:58.400 --> 1:45:01.280
<v Speaker 5>totally didn't think I was a writer at all. And

1:45:01.320 --> 1:45:04.639
<v Speaker 5>then this experience happened to me, and I was writing

1:45:04.680 --> 1:45:06.720
<v Speaker 5>to my friend's emails about it and they were like,

1:45:07.200 --> 1:45:09.200
<v Speaker 5>this is you have to write and I was like,

1:45:09.280 --> 1:45:12.840
<v Speaker 5>I can't write. And then a friend Mine's like, you

1:45:12.880 --> 1:45:15.760
<v Speaker 5>really should write this book. And so I went to

1:45:15.840 --> 1:45:19.479
<v Speaker 5>the library. I drop my kids off at kindergarten when

1:45:20.000 --> 1:45:24.200
<v Speaker 5>they were little, drop them off at school, take the

1:45:24.360 --> 1:45:27.080
<v Speaker 5>Crosstown busk, and went to this library and I just

1:45:27.160 --> 1:45:31.479
<v Speaker 5>wrote every day and like at the end it was

1:45:31.880 --> 1:45:33.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't know it was a book, and so that's

1:45:33.960 --> 1:45:36.640
<v Speaker 5>another story. But then that got published and it was

1:45:36.640 --> 1:45:38.240
<v Speaker 5>a New York Times bestseller and.

1:45:38.280 --> 1:45:41.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, was this was this the book happens every day?

1:45:42.320 --> 1:45:42.679
<v Speaker 5>Okay?

1:45:42.800 --> 1:45:44.160
<v Speaker 1>We were going to ask you about that that's on

1:45:44.240 --> 1:45:49.880
<v Speaker 1>our list. So that's like a memoir. And then are

1:45:49.880 --> 1:45:51.760
<v Speaker 1>the other ones memoirs or are they.

1:45:51.640 --> 1:45:54.920
<v Speaker 5>Fiction or the second one's a memoir, the third one's fiction,

1:45:55.000 --> 1:45:57.000
<v Speaker 5>and the fourth one is like kind of like a

1:45:57.120 --> 1:46:01.120
<v Speaker 5>manifesto sort of. It's called Cozy about the truth of

1:46:01.160 --> 1:46:05.160
<v Speaker 5>who you are and knowing that and then locating that

1:46:05.200 --> 1:46:07.599
<v Speaker 5>in the world so that you can feel good anywhere.

1:46:07.600 --> 1:46:09.920
<v Speaker 5>So you could, like if you know who you are

1:46:10.280 --> 1:46:11.880
<v Speaker 5>and you know like what makes you tick and what

1:46:11.920 --> 1:46:14.760
<v Speaker 5>you like and what speaks to you, then if you're

1:46:15.200 --> 1:46:19.000
<v Speaker 5>in a bumber situation in the world, which always happens,

1:46:20.040 --> 1:46:22.200
<v Speaker 5>you can try like let's say you're in a hospital,

1:46:23.160 --> 1:46:25.479
<v Speaker 5>but well, if you know that you know you're from

1:46:25.520 --> 1:46:29.920
<v Speaker 5>the South and you like Southern accents or whatever, you

1:46:29.920 --> 1:46:32.840
<v Speaker 5>can like listen for that, or you can like, you know,

1:46:33.120 --> 1:46:38.040
<v Speaker 5>I like putting my hand in between like the mattress

1:46:38.080 --> 1:46:41.920
<v Speaker 5>in the wall. I just sometimes put my hand in there,

1:46:42.320 --> 1:46:44.960
<v Speaker 5>and that just makes me feel good. And like cozy

1:46:45.120 --> 1:46:47.400
<v Speaker 5>must be some old thing. But like if I don't

1:46:47.439 --> 1:46:51.400
<v Speaker 5>feel right, I can know that I can do that

1:46:51.760 --> 1:46:54.800
<v Speaker 5>and feel good. So I talk to like nurses and

1:46:54.840 --> 1:46:56.840
<v Speaker 5>I talked to all these people and they were all like,

1:46:56.880 --> 1:46:59.720
<v Speaker 5>oh yeah, Like cozy is like one nurse head in

1:47:00.080 --> 1:47:04.840
<v Speaker 5>her workstation had this little shelf that exactly fit her

1:47:04.880 --> 1:47:07.920
<v Speaker 5>cup of coffee and she just loved it and it

1:47:08.040 --> 1:47:10.879
<v Speaker 5>just made her. That little movement of putting the coffee

1:47:10.920 --> 1:47:13.000
<v Speaker 5>in the thing just made her. And she was a

1:47:13.080 --> 1:47:16.040
<v Speaker 5>trauma she was an ICU nurse, and she was like

1:47:16.320 --> 1:47:19.439
<v Speaker 5>just knowing that that's there, it helps me do my job.

1:47:20.000 --> 1:47:22.759
<v Speaker 5>So I kind of identified that as the word cozy,

1:47:22.840 --> 1:47:25.000
<v Speaker 5>not like sweaters and fires and.

1:47:25.080 --> 1:47:25.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah all that.

1:47:25.760 --> 1:47:27.760
<v Speaker 5>But so that was the fourth book.

1:47:28.560 --> 1:47:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Did you What was it like when you guys all

1:47:30.439 --> 1:47:34.200
<v Speaker 1>reunited like last year to make that big episode.

1:47:35.040 --> 1:47:40.240
<v Speaker 5>That episode, it was wild. There was a one we

1:47:40.240 --> 1:47:42.760
<v Speaker 5>were waiting for lighting or something and I was in

1:47:42.840 --> 1:47:47.400
<v Speaker 5>the thing in the bed and it was very emotional. Actually,

1:47:49.640 --> 1:47:53.400
<v Speaker 5>I like was totally. I was always crying on that job,

1:47:53.720 --> 1:47:57.800
<v Speaker 5>but I was crying. I was. We were sitting there

1:47:57.880 --> 1:48:03.000
<v Speaker 5>like waiting for lighting, and the was were like wow, wow, wow, wow,

1:48:03.120 --> 1:48:06.240
<v Speaker 5>Like we're here. You know, we hadn't been this, yeah

1:48:06.040 --> 1:48:09.280
<v Speaker 5>you Chris and Marishka had barely been on set together

1:48:09.400 --> 1:48:14.519
<v Speaker 5>at that point. So it was really wild, you know,

1:48:14.640 --> 1:48:16.920
<v Speaker 5>it was like what ten years later or something.

1:48:16.960 --> 1:48:20.760
<v Speaker 1>It was yeah, yeah, pretty much exactly because it was yeah,

1:48:20.800 --> 1:48:23.320
<v Speaker 1>he left around twenty twelve and then twenty.

1:48:23.200 --> 1:48:24.120
<v Speaker 5>Was like twenty twenty one.

1:48:24.240 --> 1:48:25.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, so it was.

1:48:25.720 --> 1:48:29.800
<v Speaker 5>It was very moving and we just shot it in

1:48:29.880 --> 1:48:32.600
<v Speaker 5>one go and that was yeah, but it was it was.

1:48:32.760 --> 1:48:34.479
<v Speaker 5>It was great, It really was.

1:48:35.000 --> 1:48:40.439
<v Speaker 2>So you mentioned this earlier with like, you know, the

1:48:40.479 --> 1:48:44.480
<v Speaker 2>will they won't they have the Libya and like the viewers,

1:48:44.800 --> 1:48:48.920
<v Speaker 2>but internally was did did you guys know that like

1:48:49.520 --> 1:48:52.200
<v Speaker 2>that was never gonna happen or was that always a

1:48:52.240 --> 1:48:53.559
<v Speaker 2>possibility within the writer.

1:48:53.760 --> 1:48:56.400
<v Speaker 5>That's such a good, such a good question. I never

1:48:56.640 --> 1:49:02.559
<v Speaker 5>thought about that, Yeah, because usually I guess there was

1:49:02.600 --> 1:49:04.320
<v Speaker 5>this thing that I kind of knew that it was

1:49:04.320 --> 1:49:07.919
<v Speaker 5>annoyed because some of the script was like this is annoying,

1:49:08.000 --> 1:49:11.440
<v Speaker 5>like you're always with Olivia, but then like in paternity,

1:49:11.880 --> 1:49:15.360
<v Speaker 5>Olivia drove me to my appointment or whatever.

1:49:15.800 --> 1:49:18.400
<v Speaker 1>But in this episode, I feel like they were teasing

1:49:18.439 --> 1:49:20.360
<v Speaker 1>the viewers almost that they were going to kill you,

1:49:20.479 --> 1:49:22.280
<v Speaker 1>like that you were going to die in childbirth. Like

1:49:22.360 --> 1:49:25.439
<v Speaker 1>I think that because like Olivia is there saving you.

1:49:25.439 --> 1:49:27.760
<v Speaker 1>You pass out like twice, then they have you at

1:49:27.760 --> 1:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>the hospital where Elliot comes running in. We don't even

1:49:30.200 --> 1:49:32.320
<v Speaker 1>know that you're there and alive. He could just be there,

1:49:32.360 --> 1:49:33.960
<v Speaker 1>like you know, it could just be the baby.

1:49:34.000 --> 1:49:35.120
<v Speaker 2>And so then he.

1:49:35.120 --> 1:49:38.479
<v Speaker 1>Has this like really emotional hug with Olivia afterwards. And

1:49:38.520 --> 1:49:40.800
<v Speaker 1>I feel like when I was watching that in two

1:49:40.880 --> 1:49:44.040
<v Speaker 1>thousand and whatever seven and I want to let you

1:49:44.080 --> 1:49:46.120
<v Speaker 1>know right now, we are not a pro Olivia and

1:49:46.240 --> 1:49:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Elliott podcast at all.

1:49:47.880 --> 1:49:49.400
<v Speaker 4>We do not think they belong together.

1:49:49.800 --> 1:49:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I remember thinking, Oh, they're they're going to try to

1:49:52.720 --> 1:49:55.040
<v Speaker 1>make us think that Kathy's dying now, so that Elliott

1:49:55.040 --> 1:49:56.880
<v Speaker 1>and Olivia finally have a chance to be together. But

1:49:56.920 --> 1:49:59.360
<v Speaker 1>then of course they didn't do it, because they're never going.

1:49:59.200 --> 1:50:00.719
<v Speaker 2>To do them.

1:50:01.360 --> 1:50:03.400
<v Speaker 1>We could probably talk to you for a lot longer,

1:50:03.439 --> 1:50:08.680
<v Speaker 1>but this remain I want that. Yeah, cozy, Yeah, do

1:50:08.720 --> 1:50:11.320
<v Speaker 1>you have anything you want us to like plug to

1:50:11.400 --> 1:50:13.040
<v Speaker 1>our listeners just like your books?

1:50:14.000 --> 1:50:16.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, my books. I'm writing a new book. I'm writing

1:50:16.240 --> 1:50:16.719
<v Speaker 5>a novel.

1:50:17.439 --> 1:50:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Nice.

1:50:18.560 --> 1:50:20.960
<v Speaker 4>So do you write every day? Is that how it works?

1:50:21.200 --> 1:50:25.479
<v Speaker 5>I've been a little bad about it. This My youngest kid,

1:50:25.520 --> 1:50:28.160
<v Speaker 5>Our youngest kid just went to college.

1:50:28.760 --> 1:50:30.840
<v Speaker 1>So you're alone, your empty nest.

1:50:31.760 --> 1:50:36.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, a little adjustment time for ig, but no, I

1:50:36.560 --> 1:50:39.240
<v Speaker 5>try and write from eight thirty to eleven thirty every day.

1:50:40.120 --> 1:50:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well we'll let you go. I'm sure you would

1:50:43.240 --> 1:50:44.280
<v Speaker 1>rather be writing.

1:50:44.160 --> 1:50:45.200
<v Speaker 4>Thank you so much.

1:50:49.000 --> 1:50:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was fun.

1:50:53.840 --> 1:50:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know how Casey's going to cut that down,

1:50:55.920 --> 1:50:59.920
<v Speaker 1>because like, that was a full hour of fun. Walter

1:51:00.160 --> 1:51:02.679
<v Speaker 1>Wall Chat, Yeah, it really.

1:51:03.439 --> 1:51:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I loved her journey. I loved the writing. I loved

1:51:06.240 --> 1:51:09.160
<v Speaker 2>her honesty and openness. I loved your guys a little

1:51:09.160 --> 1:51:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Camp moment, you know.

1:51:11.760 --> 1:51:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I like him so I love for our one hundredth

1:51:13.960 --> 1:51:16.559
<v Speaker 1>episode that we got a guest through camp. It's like

1:51:16.720 --> 1:51:22.920
<v Speaker 1>so serendipitous and yeah, she gave us like a lot

1:51:22.920 --> 1:51:27.280
<v Speaker 1>of cool info. And I just like that episode. I've

1:51:27.320 --> 1:51:30.360
<v Speaker 1>seen it five times, but it really hit me different

1:51:30.400 --> 1:51:33.800
<v Speaker 1>this time, like I I mean, yeah, it was a.

1:51:35.760 --> 1:51:38.040
<v Speaker 4>Jaws of life pregnant giving birth.

1:51:38.040 --> 1:51:39.400
<v Speaker 1>I get it's just because I haven't seen it since

1:51:39.439 --> 1:51:42.639
<v Speaker 1>I gave birth twice, so it's fucking nuts.

1:51:42.640 --> 1:51:45.720
<v Speaker 2>But well, you know what, another guest from our one

1:51:45.760 --> 1:51:48.080
<v Speaker 2>hundred episodes just came to mind that I was really

1:51:48.080 --> 1:51:52.240
<v Speaker 2>excited for. I'd like to give a shout out. Oh Catherine,

1:51:52.400 --> 1:51:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Catherine Moriarty, Kathy, what was Kathy Moriarty. Kathy Moriarty, that

1:51:57.400 --> 1:52:00.080
<v Speaker 2>was it was a special get for me as a

1:52:00.200 --> 1:52:01.720
<v Speaker 2>soap dish psychotic.

1:52:02.360 --> 1:52:04.200
<v Speaker 1>She was a special get for me. I was so

1:52:04.240 --> 1:52:05.400
<v Speaker 1>happy to have for her life.

1:52:05.560 --> 1:52:05.720
<v Speaker 5>It was.

1:52:05.720 --> 1:52:06.720
<v Speaker 1>But I'm a cheerleader.

1:52:07.200 --> 1:52:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, love, we're both Yeah, we really both combined to

1:52:10.720 --> 1:52:12.920
<v Speaker 2>be very We can't forget her with our best STU

1:52:13.040 --> 1:52:14.320
<v Speaker 2>but truly we.

1:52:14.280 --> 1:52:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Didn't mention it.

1:52:15.080 --> 1:52:18.600
<v Speaker 2>We still have to eat the pizza. Pizza, No, I

1:52:18.600 --> 1:52:20.800
<v Speaker 2>mean we've talked to everyone that's like amazing and cool

1:52:20.840 --> 1:52:23.280
<v Speaker 2>and we get jazzed every time, or we get like

1:52:23.320 --> 1:52:26.840
<v Speaker 2>super surprised and taken different places with people. Yeah, but

1:52:27.120 --> 1:52:29.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm a stoner. I'm giving you what it

1:52:29.120 --> 1:52:31.240
<v Speaker 2>comes at the top of my head. I mean I'm

1:52:31.280 --> 1:52:34.880
<v Speaker 2>not even Yeah, like Isabelle gilly Is, that was fucking fun. Yeah,

1:52:35.000 --> 1:52:36.759
<v Speaker 2>I want to read her. I want to be cozy.

1:52:36.880 --> 1:52:38.479
<v Speaker 2>I like these little minute things.

1:52:38.600 --> 1:52:40.479
<v Speaker 1>I like that. And just like she's gone through a

1:52:40.479 --> 1:52:42.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff in her life and it's just like

1:52:42.280 --> 1:52:45.400
<v Speaker 1>zigging and zagging, like move to Ohio, like got it

1:52:45.439 --> 1:52:49.040
<v Speaker 1>as divorced, like decided to like pivot from acting to writing,

1:52:49.120 --> 1:52:50.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know a lot of a lot of

1:52:50.800 --> 1:52:51.439
<v Speaker 1>cool stuff.

1:52:51.439 --> 1:52:53.000
<v Speaker 4>I think that she has a lot that we can

1:52:53.400 --> 1:52:53.720
<v Speaker 4>and I.

1:52:53.680 --> 1:52:55.479
<v Speaker 2>Love that her goal is like, yeah, I write for

1:52:55.520 --> 1:52:57.640
<v Speaker 2>me at thirty to eleven thirty, and that's like, what

1:52:57.720 --> 1:53:00.320
<v Speaker 2>a nice goal. Three hours? Get it yeah, in get

1:53:00.360 --> 1:53:04.879
<v Speaker 2>it in. Oh my god, So you know my sexy

1:53:04.920 --> 1:53:05.800
<v Speaker 2>acting job I.

1:53:05.760 --> 1:53:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Have right now. Yeah.

1:53:08.120 --> 1:53:11.120
<v Speaker 2>One of the wardrobe guys is the best smelling man

1:53:11.240 --> 1:53:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I've ever smelled in my life, like fresh, Like it's

1:53:15.840 --> 1:53:18.280
<v Speaker 2>like I'm in a waterfall, in a jumpt like I

1:53:18.640 --> 1:53:21.400
<v Speaker 2>it's the freshest law sent I've ever had. And he

1:53:21.439 --> 1:53:24.639
<v Speaker 2>says he layers the sense and it lasts and it's

1:53:24.720 --> 1:53:27.519
<v Speaker 2>not overpowering. And every time I'm near the scent, I'm

1:53:27.560 --> 1:53:29.880
<v Speaker 2>like happy to have it back in my life, and

1:53:30.160 --> 1:53:32.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm hopefully I'll write it down. It seems you in

1:53:32.040 --> 1:53:33.880
<v Speaker 2>a sex like I might try to engage with the

1:53:33.920 --> 1:53:37.880
<v Speaker 2>smell because I was like, every time he comes around,

1:53:37.920 --> 1:53:40.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm like hmmm, Like it just was like the cleanest,

1:53:40.680 --> 1:53:41.840
<v Speaker 2>freshest scent I've ever smelled.

1:53:41.880 --> 1:53:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, people really love us talking about sense because when

1:53:44.040 --> 1:53:46.000
<v Speaker 1>we talked about Bessie Johnson, a lot of people wrote

1:53:46.040 --> 1:53:48.559
<v Speaker 1>in and were like, yes, more about the fragrances you like.

1:53:48.600 --> 1:53:50.639
<v Speaker 1>And I will say that my brother, Colin, the joker

1:53:50.680 --> 1:53:53.360
<v Speaker 1>loving the heath led your joker loving brother of mine. Colin,

1:53:54.280 --> 1:53:57.920
<v Speaker 1>he wears tom Ford for men and it smells I

1:53:57.960 --> 1:53:59.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's just on him or what.

1:53:59.600 --> 1:54:01.360
<v Speaker 4>It's smell so fucking good.

1:54:01.800 --> 1:54:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Like he's my brother, but I'm just like, every time

1:54:04.240 --> 1:54:06.439
<v Speaker 1>he's around me, I'm like, God, that smells good. I

1:54:06.439 --> 1:54:08.240
<v Speaker 1>would never have Jared wear it because, like, I don't

1:54:08.240 --> 1:54:11.520
<v Speaker 1>really like too much Colone, but I love my brother's Colone.

1:54:12.439 --> 1:54:13.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm not scared to say it.

1:54:13.840 --> 1:54:16.520
<v Speaker 2>I love that my dad grew He was a maniac.

1:54:16.600 --> 1:54:19.080
<v Speaker 2>He like would go to the dollar store by aftershave

1:54:19.160 --> 1:54:20.759
<v Speaker 2>and fucking dump half.

1:54:20.560 --> 1:54:22.920
<v Speaker 1>A bottle on it. Yeah, and then we'd have to

1:54:22.960 --> 1:54:23.120
<v Speaker 1>go to.

1:54:23.160 --> 1:54:25.760
<v Speaker 2>A Russian restaurant to get wasted at brunch and it

1:54:25.880 --> 1:54:27.960
<v Speaker 2>was like he would just smell up the car.

1:54:28.160 --> 1:54:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Motherfucker perfect one hundredth episode. We are not getting at

1:54:32.920 --> 1:54:35.080
<v Speaker 1>all to the point of anything right now. At the

1:54:35.160 --> 1:54:37.240
<v Speaker 1>end of that episode, I'm excited.

1:54:37.240 --> 1:54:37.800
<v Speaker 4>What do we want?

1:54:37.840 --> 1:54:38.160
<v Speaker 1>What is this?

1:54:38.360 --> 1:54:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I paternity, don't fucking kill the mother of your children?

1:54:42.160 --> 1:54:44.600
<v Speaker 1>Is that a lesson? Is that something you guys needed

1:54:44.640 --> 1:54:49.360
<v Speaker 1>advice on stop the post mortem of this episode. I

1:54:49.440 --> 1:54:53.280
<v Speaker 1>feel like we got to talk about how it's wild

1:54:53.320 --> 1:54:55.320
<v Speaker 1>to act like someone's only related to you if it's

1:54:55.360 --> 1:54:57.880
<v Speaker 1>like through blood. There's so many different ways to have families,

1:54:57.920 --> 1:55:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Like you did not have to kill all these I

1:55:00.640 --> 1:55:04.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know, like fucking men in their sperm dicks. It's

1:55:04.040 --> 1:55:07.640
<v Speaker 1>like the men in there together too obsessed with proliferating

1:55:07.680 --> 1:55:09.160
<v Speaker 1>their sperm all around the world.

1:55:09.160 --> 1:55:09.680
<v Speaker 4>Anyway.

1:55:10.680 --> 1:55:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Also be careful with like online dating. I mean, honestly,

1:55:14.560 --> 1:55:16.840
<v Speaker 1>it's fucked up somebody I actually just read. You know,

1:55:16.880 --> 1:55:19.080
<v Speaker 1>we talk about it all the time. Men are a friend,

1:55:19.400 --> 1:55:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Women are afraid that men will kill them. Women are

1:55:21.280 --> 1:55:22.840
<v Speaker 1>afraid that men will laugh at them. I believe it's

1:55:22.840 --> 1:55:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Margaret Atwood who wrote The Handmaid's Tale that that's attributed to.

1:55:26.160 --> 1:55:27.800
<v Speaker 2>You might have said it back you might have said

1:55:27.800 --> 1:55:29.240
<v Speaker 2>it backwards, but I think we all know.

1:55:30.080 --> 1:55:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Women are afraid that men will kill them, and men

1:55:33.120 --> 1:55:35.640
<v Speaker 1>are afraid that women will laugh at them. Yeah, would

1:55:35.640 --> 1:55:39.879
<v Speaker 1>they say different? Okay, so two women in this episode

1:55:39.920 --> 1:55:42.160
<v Speaker 1>get killed because they laugh at a man, and like,

1:55:42.400 --> 1:55:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I just feel like, I don't know, Well, maybe my

1:55:44.280 --> 1:55:46.520
<v Speaker 1>post mortem advice is like don't be alone with a

1:55:46.560 --> 1:55:48.760
<v Speaker 1>strange man and laugh at him. But yet they're the.

1:55:48.680 --> 1:55:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Ones that are always like, have a sense of humor.

1:55:50.680 --> 1:55:53.080
<v Speaker 2>I was joking, women are funny, and then they're the

1:55:53.080 --> 1:55:57.400
<v Speaker 2>way you are, correct, Margaret, that would yeah, but they're

1:55:57.400 --> 1:55:59.600
<v Speaker 2>always the ones that are first to get pissed and

1:55:59.600 --> 1:56:02.520
<v Speaker 2>get diffensive. I was watching below Deck in a hotel,

1:56:02.680 --> 1:56:06.640
<v Speaker 2>great binge watch, and some guy is pissed because girls

1:56:06.680 --> 1:56:09.160
<v Speaker 2>like drunkenly were like called him a bitch, but like

1:56:09.280 --> 1:56:12.080
<v Speaker 2>what up, bitch? Yeah, and he lost it and he's

1:56:12.160 --> 1:56:14.080
<v Speaker 2>the bosin, so it's like you have to professional.

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<v Speaker 4>He wouldn't even look at this woman for like days.

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<v Speaker 2>He went straight to the captain and was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to be called a bitch. I went to

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<v Speaker 2>the Marines and was like, oh, okay, chill out, and

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<v Speaker 2>even like then then the girl later in her confessional

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<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, if you get this upset being called

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<v Speaker 2>a bitch, like you need to look inward and know

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<v Speaker 2>why you're that upset and not like yell at everyone

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<v Speaker 2>like we didn't do anything. Yeah, there was the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that did that where I was like, oh my god, girl,

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<v Speaker 2>you won't believe it.

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<v Speaker 4>And he's like I'm not a girl, don't say that.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like okay, but you wouldn't be mad if

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<v Speaker 2>like someone said, dude or guy, just like chill. Why

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<v Speaker 2>is that so crazy to you? It's like the way

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<v Speaker 2>I speak, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like toxic masculinity for the loss, Yeah I hate it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like these leads a murder.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want toxic masculinity, that's not that horrific. I

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<v Speaker 2>would watch below Deck, but well, watching them these men

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<v Speaker 2>get fired is gets me off. They had to fire

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<v Speaker 2>a chef for being bad, and it was like get

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<v Speaker 2>rid of this piece of shit.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt good to watch. It must be kind of

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<v Speaker 1>freeing to be on a reality show because you can

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<v Speaker 1>kind of say anything you want to men because there's

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<v Speaker 1>cameras there, Like it's like every you know, you're a

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<v Speaker 1>bit protected. You can like say, but dudes are like

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of what you say. It's like, dudes aren't scared.

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<v Speaker 2>There was one below Deck where it was a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of dudes and one of the dudes grabbed one of

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<v Speaker 2>the stews and like picked her up and she's like

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<v Speaker 2>put me down, and they didn't like it, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you gonna do call like the boat police.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like there's cameras all around you, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>not scared at all. This woman is telling you and

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, I'm not even like they are not worried,

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<v Speaker 2>they are not scared. They are out there touching lower

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<v Speaker 2>backs and raping and everything in between, everything in between.

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<v Speaker 1>God, okay, yeah, I didn't want to go there.

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<v Speaker 4>I want, I want. Yeah, should we do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's pick our favorite most haunting crime of the one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred we've done to celebrate our podcast. I really was

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<v Speaker 2>upset when that woman was yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who's your favorite victim? No, I'm kidding, We're obviously kidding,

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<v Speaker 1>we're joking.

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot that via text. No one can tell stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote no way to someone and they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry. I just wanted to let you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not a problem, please disregard, and I was like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>no there.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like this was a lighthearted, like no way, jose.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this wasn't like no, but keep people on their toes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you gotta keep people toes with the tone.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's all right, memories. No, we should go, we

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<v Speaker 4>should go.

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<v Speaker 1>We should probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrap it up, but let's do. This week's what would

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<v Speaker 2>Sister Peg Do? Wake Cara, Which one of my recording

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<v Speaker 2>locations have you liked the most?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking the Jewish Condo.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the Jewish Condo was fun, but I do like

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<v Speaker 1>this one because I like looking at.

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<v Speaker 4>Your art behind you, like the little core Gee.

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<v Speaker 1>I like you know, your Lisa, your Miranda, you know

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<v Speaker 1>you have good, good stuff. So I do like that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well let's get into this week's what would Sister Peg Do?

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<v Speaker 1>Our weekly segment where we point you to a resource,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a website, an article, a book, something to

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<v Speaker 1>flesh out a little bit more about what we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about on today's episode, And for our one hundredth what

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<v Speaker 1>would Sister Peg Do, I just want to point you

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<v Speaker 1>guys to a helpful resource at RAIN. And we've called

1:59:29.960 --> 1:59:33.880
<v Speaker 1>out RAIN many times. We love them. That is the Rape,

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<v Speaker 1>Abuse and Incest National Network, So helpful, the nation's largest

1:59:37.320 --> 1:59:41.760
<v Speaker 1>antisexual violence organization. Amazing resources, but one in particular I

1:59:41.760 --> 1:59:44.920
<v Speaker 1>wanted to highlight today was they have a section that's

1:59:44.920 --> 1:59:48.480
<v Speaker 1>called Online Dating and Dating App safety Tips. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's like sometimes I think people are doing stuff

1:59:50.600 --> 1:59:54.040
<v Speaker 1>on Tinder or the apps where they're you know, maybe

1:59:54.040 --> 1:59:56.879
<v Speaker 1>not following protocols to keep themselves as safe as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just wanted to highlight this article because this

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<v Speaker 1>isl in the episode did get murdered by a man

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<v Speaker 1>who didn't look like his picture, And you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>want everyone to be safe out there. I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to be all dating and hooking up, but in a

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<v Speaker 1>safe way. So there's a lot of helpful tips on there,

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<v Speaker 1>like don't use the same photo in your dating profile

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<v Speaker 1>as your Facebook. Like I wouldn't have thought about that.

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<v Speaker 1>You obviously think you want to use your best photo,

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<v Speaker 1>but they can like revert, people can reverse reverse image

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<v Speaker 1>shirt you find your Facebook stuff like that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you probably want to use the different picture, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>second dairy picture.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah. So like if there's stuff there that even

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<v Speaker 1>like you hadn't thought of, I feel like there's probably

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<v Speaker 1>a couple tips in there that everybody can check out,

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<v Speaker 1>and like just tips on how to meet someone in

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<v Speaker 1>person that you've met online, Like what's the safest way

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, and it's not necessarily always just like

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<v Speaker 1>a coffee shop. Like, there's some other tips, So check

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<v Speaker 1>out the link. It's in our show notes and as always,

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<v Speaker 1>will be on our Instagram stories and in our highlight

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<v Speaker 1>called WWSP and yeah, that's that. And thanks for all

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<v Speaker 1>of the last one hundred episodes for the supporting all

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<v Speaker 1>the organizations that we shout out. A lot of you

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<v Speaker 1>have told us that you donate, and that's like means.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot to us, it really does. You guys are

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<v Speaker 4>amazing people.

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<v Speaker 2>When we're on tour, all the stuff always says that

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are the best, and we know that. I

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<v Speaker 2>see you out and about, I see you out in

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<v Speaker 2>the bars in the streets, and you're nice. I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say about the day for some I clicked into

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<v Speaker 2>a live yesterday and it was two dating coach matchmakers

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<v Speaker 2>arguing over bikini picks or not in your dating profiles.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And one was like totally fine, me like yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>just don't agree, and the other one kept wanting to

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<v Speaker 2>argue and the other woman kept being like, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>fine and we just disagree. Like the other woman just

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<v Speaker 2>could not deal with that, but it was whatever. Next

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<v Speaker 2>week we have another episode as always one oh one Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like an intro class in college.

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