1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: Training Camps open for business. Kyle Shanahan kind of cleared 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 2: things up with his accident and the report. Although he 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: did a private press conference, it's not on video. Like, 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: I don't why the shroud of mystery here? Just tell 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: us what happened. Day one, The Niners could have said, 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: our coach was in a car accident. He's been hospitalized, 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: he's got broken bones and broken nose. We will give 10 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: you an update. It's not life threatening. Another car was 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: involved in this and that person did not sustain any injuries. 12 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: So now it metastasized into this bigger story. It didn't 13 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 2: have to be. Just tell us what happened. Accidents happen 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: all the time. But this is a head coach as 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: he's going into training camp. I don't even know is 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: he going to be available for all of training camp. 17 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 2: I mean, that's all I'm concerned about. I don't need 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: to know anything else. I know that he said he 19 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: dropped his phone and he was looking down and then 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: he ran into another car. Okay, let the police tell 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: me that. If they choose to tell me that, all 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: I need to know is if I'm a Niner fan, 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: football fan. Oh, Kyle Shanahan was in a car incident, okay, 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: not life threatening injuries, Okay, He's gonna miss ten days, okay, 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: and then he can come back and he can talk 26 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: about his injuries and that nobody was hurt. The initial 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: report was it was the other driver's fault, which Kyle 28 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 2: Shanahan did clear that up. But I don't know why 29 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: unless he doesn't feel comfortable being on camera with the injuries. 30 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. But if you tell us that, oh, 31 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. It just became more of a 32 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: okay up, maybe not full disclosure, whatever it is. You 33 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: made it more of a story than it needed to be. 34 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: And hopefully this is it as we move into training 35 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: camp and he'll be able to coach this year. But 36 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 2: training camp open for business, and so are the Philadelphia Egos. 37 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: They signed up Jalen Carter to a big deal and 38 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: he is literally a big deal. I was talking about, 39 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: you know, like Vita Vea, I love nose tackles. I 40 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 2: just I got to start my defense with that. Everybody 41 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: focuses on the edge, man, I want it right in 42 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 2: the middle. I got to have somebody there and I'll 43 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: go back to John Randall, Warren Sapp. I mean, there's 44 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: so many great players. You know, Chris Jones made a 45 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: name for himself, Aaron Donald. There's a lot of these players, 46 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: or it feels like there's more of these players because 47 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: I think defensive coordinators realize if I can put pressure 48 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: up the middle, I'm really disrupting your offense. And Jalen 49 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: Carter got a big deal. You also have the Baker 50 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: Mayfield situation. He's looking for a new deal and it 51 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: looks like he's going to play this season out and 52 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: become a free agent. But I started to look at 53 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 2: the numbers here and even when this is a couple 54 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: of years ago, and I like Baker Mayfield. You know, 55 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: it's strange to be a Heisman winner, be the number 56 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: One pick, and have a chip on your shoulder. But 57 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: he will have a chip on his shoulder the rest 58 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: of his career. And I understand it because he had 59 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: success with Cleveland, made the playoffs, then he had the 60 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: shoulder injury. Then you bring in OBJ, which I thought 61 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: was terrible. Not because I don't like Obj, it's now 62 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: I have to make sure he gets his touches. And 63 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: I thought Jarvis Landry was a better receiver for Baker Mayfield. 64 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: OBJ needs to show that he's OBJ, and I thought Baker, 65 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: you know, was probably going to him looking to him 66 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: more than he needed to. That's beside the point. But 67 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: he gets kicked to the curb. He's in Carolina, he's 68 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: running the scout, he's on the scout defense in Carolina. 69 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 2: Him and Sam Darnold are in Carolina. Forgotten, kick to 70 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 2: the curb, Give it a football timeout. You got the 71 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 2: Rams situation, which probably did help him understand the quarterbacking 72 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: position with Sean McVay. And then all of a sudden 73 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 2: you replaced Tom Brady and you lead them to the 74 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: playoffs and more than just that. So this is since 75 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three when he joined the Buccaneers. He ranks 76 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: first in games started in all NFL quarterbacks. He's third 77 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: in passing yards. He's second in passing touchdowns. He is 78 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 2: tied for fifth and fourth quarter comebacks. He is tied 79 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 2: for ninth in QB wins. His cap hit was twenty 80 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: six million dollars. He also helped Liam Cohen and Dave 81 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: Canalis get head coaching jobs. They were offensive coordinators for him. 82 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: He's a bargain right now. I don't know what he's 83 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: asking for, but I would think if you signed that 84 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,559 Speaker 2: three or one hundred million dollar deal, which we thought 85 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: it would be thirty five million dollars, I thought that 86 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: that was the sweet spot. It's that second or third 87 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: time around for a quarterback like Sam Darnold. He said, 88 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 2: don't price yourself out of a job, get a job, 89 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 2: be a starter because you're team friendly. And look what 90 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: happened with Sam Darnold. Baker Mayfield is going to get paid. 91 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: Now. 92 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: You want to pay him three years, one hundred and 93 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: fifty million dollars, one hundred and twenty million guaranteed, whatever 94 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: it's going to be. I mean, this is a division 95 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 2: that is up for grabs, and if you're Tampa, you 96 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: might lose Videvea and that's a big loss too. But 97 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: with Baker Mayfield, the number there, he put up, put 98 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: up good numbers, came in and replaced Tom Brady, a 99 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: tough tough position to walk into, but he did it. 100 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: Now the question is is he going to now? I 101 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: think he's got a stance here, at least his agent does. 102 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: We're not going to negotiate once the season starts. And 103 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: you hear this a lot. That doesn't mean there won't 104 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 2: be negotiations going on. Baker Mayfield's not going to be 105 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: talking about it, and neither will the Buccaneers. But he'll 106 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: be a valuable commodity if he plays. 107 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: Now. 108 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: He only had twenty six touchdown passes, I believe, last year, 109 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: but I think he had mid forties, forty one maybe 110 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 2: forty two a couple of years ago. Now he's had 111 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: good receivers. But Baker Mayfield looks like he is going 112 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: to play this season out and then take his chances. 113 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, Poe, it does feel like the timing of those 114 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 5: last two seasons is what prevents the contract. Forty one 115 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 5: touchdowns in twenty twenty four, he was a seventy two 116 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 5: percent passer. He did everything forty five hundred yards. Last 117 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 5: year he just cooled off a little bit. And it's 118 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 5: one of those things like the Bucks are playing the 119 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 5: wait and see thing, which is understandable. 120 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 4: Twenty six touchouts. 121 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: You know, once again, he's valuable. He's valuable with the 122 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: right team, right situation, and I get it. You know, 123 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: you gonna have a chip on your shoulder the rest 124 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: of your career, even when you're around him. He walks 125 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: around even in Tahoe, he walks around like he's got 126 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: a chip on his shoulder. It's like a easy man. 127 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 2: It's just it's a pro am golf tournament. You know 128 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: you're not playing in the playoffs. Yeah, Paul, I. 129 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 5: Think we brought this up a couple of years ago. 130 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 5: He should actually get a Laze Potato Chip deal and 131 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 5: start the season with the ad right on the shoulder. 132 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: Well, you know they're putting logos on jerseys, so maybe 133 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: you could get a Laze Potato Chip patch on there. 134 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: That was interesting. Yesterday the Ohio State announced that they 135 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: have a sponsorship deal where they'll have a patch on 136 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: all of their uniforms and it's I think seventeen eighteen million. 137 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: Notre Dame then quickly followed up and said, not so fast. 138 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: Where's ours is more valuable than yours? Illinois involved in this, 139 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 2: the big twelves involved in this. You're looking for any 140 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: stream of revenue, whatever it is you're looking for this. 141 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: UNLV's basketball coach Josh Passner came out and said, hey, 142 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: somebody want to pony up and I think it was 143 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: like nineteen million dollars. You can own the basketball team here? 144 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 2: And then I talked about this a couple of days ago. 145 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: I said, if I'm a billionaire and I can't buy 146 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: a team, can I buy a college football team? Can 147 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: I run a college football team? As you know, the 148 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,439 Speaker 2: sole source of revenue here? 149 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: Like? 150 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: What is my price tag to be that person? For 151 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 2: let's throw out at Ohio stick, Like how much would 152 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: you pay to run Ohio State football? But what kind 153 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: of power do you have? Because if you're an owner 154 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: of an NFL team, you have power. If I'm putting 155 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 2: up fifty million dollars, how much power do I have? 156 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: Am I more powerful than the athletic director? Am I 157 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: more powerful than the coach? Can I decide who plays 158 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: and who doesn't? This is my money and that? I 159 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 2: hope we're not headed in that direction, but we could be, 160 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: because it feels like everything is on the table. Everything 161 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: has a price tag now, But Notre Dame. They're going 162 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: to have a patch. And I know we get caught 163 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 2: up in Oh you can't do that. You can't stay 164 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: in these jerseys. Well, the Yankees did it to the pinstripes. 165 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 2: Everybody's doing it, the Dodger. You know, everything's open for business, 166 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: Everything has a price tag. And I look at the 167 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 2: Premier League. You'll see an old clip of David Beckham 168 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: and then he's got Sharp written across his chest. There 169 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: that's the sponsor. I mean, they have advertising. They're not 170 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 2: even kidding, like you have to go, what kid is that? 171 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 2: Oh that's Manchester City. Oh okay, can't really see it. Yes, Tom, 172 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: I'm only half. 173 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 6: Joking here, but tongue in cheek. Is there ever going 174 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 6: to be any price that's so exorbitant that they would 175 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 6: change the name of the team And now the product 176 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 6: of the company is the team? 177 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: Like the Duncan Donuts Celtics. 178 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, like the Boston duncan tell you you lose to something, 179 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 6: You're not the Astros anymore. You're seven to eleven or whatever. 180 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: Well, the Premier League teams aren't. You know, it's not Sharp, 181 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 2: it's you know, it'll be Manchester United. But the sponsorship 182 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: is there for everybody to see. It's just the crest 183 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: where you go, what team? Oh, that's that's West Ham. 184 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I didn't know that. I don't think we'll 185 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 2: get to that point, but I wonder. And there's this 186 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: in college football of how large we're small. The patch 187 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: can be. It might be four inches by four inches. Yeah, Pauline, 188 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: I do have one example. I had to double check 189 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 2: this on my head. But MLS the New York Red Bulls, 190 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: they named their team the New York Red Bulls because 191 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 2: of the sponsor, so it was a early sponsorship. It 192 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: was like their inception. So that's an example. They paid 193 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: for the nickname. So that's an example where Frissy's right. 194 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: Yes, Dylan, Yeah, if that does happen in college football, 195 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: it's just going to be a bunch of financial services 196 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: companies playing each other. 197 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, Hio State was like JP Morgan Chase, right, 198 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: something like that. 199 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 4: Let's go ahead. 200 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: Spons be sure to catch the live edition of The 201 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am 202 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 203 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 7: Hey, we're Cavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 204 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 7: five to seven pm Eastern. But here's the thing, we 205 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 7: never have enough time to get to everything we want 206 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 7: to get. 207 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 8: To, and that's why we have a brand new part 208 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 8: called over Promised. 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Listen Over Promised 228 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 8: with Cavino and Rich on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts 229 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 8: or wherever you get your podcasts. 230 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: Spring in Chase Daniel the Breakdown his YouTube channel. Former 231 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: NFL quarterback Let me start there because I thought this 232 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: was too his chance to say, hey, you know what, 233 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 2: Dolphins made a mistake, kicking me to the curb. 234 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 3: Here. 235 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: You got all those weapons there, What do you expect 236 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 2: to play out in Atlanta? 237 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 4: Look, I think Tua and Michael Pennix, those are obviously 238 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 4: the two guys. You know, It's it's not even August, 239 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 4: like you were saying, we're talking about Cooper Rush. I 240 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 4: woke up check my phone on X and of course 241 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 4: it was chefty breaking news. Oh, Cooper Rush is hunning. 242 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 4: But then looking at some more, I think it's gonna 243 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 4: be fine for Tua, I think that he is the 244 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: guy for the job right now. Look, I like this 245 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: Kevin Stefanski offense. It's based on timing. Look two is 246 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 4: gonna have to play under center a little bit more. 247 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 4: And we've seen Tua be really good at times, like 248 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 4: really really good at times, top ten quarterback at time 249 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: when he plays in rhythm right and Michael Pennicks the 250 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 4: jury's still out on him. But when you really look 251 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 4: at to and you look at and break down to 252 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 4: his best place from his time in Miami, it's all 253 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 4: about timing. It's all about rhythm. 254 00:13:59,240 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: He sees the. 255 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 4: Feeling really well, he anticipates stuff really well. And Stefanski 256 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 4: that offense is very difficult to really get a handle 257 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 4: on so to a going to that offense and now 258 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 4: missing time and training camp when it starts. I mean, 259 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 4: hopefully this is a week long injury and it's just say, hey, 260 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 4: we're just making sure it doesn't flare up anymore. But 261 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 4: that's one thing you can't miss as a quarterback when 262 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: you're learning a new offense and you're learning new playmakers 263 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 4: and skill players, like you want to be out there 264 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 4: on the first, second, third, fourth day of training camp 265 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 4: because it's such a small period of time for you 266 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 4: to get the timing right. 267 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: Look. 268 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 4: I understand people like, oh, I'm sure he was thrown 269 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 4: with the you know, Kyle Pitts and Drake London and 270 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 4: b genre in the offseason. It's just not quite the same, 271 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 4: and you know he's gonna be locked in for meetings. 272 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 4: But I want to see him out there. 273 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 3: Man. 274 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: We have more of a quarterback competition in Cleveland or Minnesota. 275 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 4: Oh, I don't think there's one in Minnesota. I mean 276 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 4: they say there is. I think it's JJ McCarthy without 277 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 4: a doubt, so I would say Cleveland. 278 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: But wait, wait, wait, wait, yeah, JJ McCarthy is going 279 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: to be the starting quarterback. 280 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 4: Sorry, sorry, sorry, Kyler, Okay, Kyler. Yeah, I said that wrong. 281 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 4: I said that wrong. Sorry, I think it's Kyler. Look 282 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 4: the second day. Sorry, it's early here on the Pacific, 283 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: you know, Cohast, No, I think it is Kyler Murray. 284 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't. I Look. I think they can 285 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: say all they want. There's a reason why these two 286 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 4: parties wanted to be together. It's because they really truly 287 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 4: believe that Kyler's football is still ahead of them. And 288 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 4: with Kos's offense, there's a lot that's put on him 289 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 4: at the line of scrimmage, and I think that's something 290 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 4: that Kyler's really good at. Obviously he can still run 291 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 4: and scramble and everything like that. But when you look 292 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 4: at what Kyler has done at his time in Arizona, 293 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 4: where the organization they didn't put a lot of things 294 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 4: around him, it's not a great organization in terms of winning. 295 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 4: For a quarterback. Last one to do. I think Kurt 296 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: Warner right, like, it's just one of those things where 297 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: you get into a really good system with Kaos, He's 298 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: just gotta make the layups. I think that's sometimes a 299 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: lot of quarterbacks get bored. Taking a profit is what 300 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 4: we say. Taking a prophet means like take the easy completion, 301 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 4: and you get bored playing quarterback because you're like, oh, 302 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 4: he's calling another play where it's a smash route, where 303 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 4: it's a hitch outside and you're just rolling to the left, 304 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 4: and I just gotta take the easy completion. Just play 305 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 4: boring football. 306 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, we benefited more from that than Tom Brady. 307 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: So the greatest quarterback of all time would take that 308 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: three yards, four yards, five yards, and that is. 309 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 4: What set and Drew Brees would do that too. People 310 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 4: think Drew Brees is just I'll play with him for 311 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 4: five years. People think he's just taking the big post 312 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 4: over the top. Look, there are certain times in games, 313 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 4: and usually there's ten to twelve plays in every NFL 314 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 4: game from a quarterback perspective where you can take a 315 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 4: shot down the field because they're gonna call these shot 316 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 4: plays like we have a little when Sean Payton was 317 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 4: oc or calling plays or Andy Reid, there's a play 318 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 4: on the call sheet that's called shots like shot plays 319 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 4: down the field, and there's anywhere between eight and twelve 320 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 4: depending on the game, and Sean would call all of 321 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 4: them and we'd be lucky if we got to pass 322 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 4: twenty yards down the field on two of them because 323 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 4: it's just you have to get the right look at 324 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 4: the right time. But KMFC has to be able to 325 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 4: trust the quarterback to know, hey, I don't need to 326 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 4: force a post versus two high safeties because it's not there, 327 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 4: like check the football down. And then when they do 328 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 4: get in Manda Man I mean Peyton Manning is last 329 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 4: year in Denver did the best job of it. He 330 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 4: was checked down. Charlie would check the screens. He would 331 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 4: do also as soon as they would play Manda Man 332 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 4: say enough of this checkdown. He would take shots down 333 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 4: the field. So you just have to be just get 334 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 4: boring quarterback play out of Kyler, I mean with the best. 335 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 4: I mean they have a really good offensive staff. So 336 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 4: I'm excited to see Kyler play. 337 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 2: Okay, so we have quarterback competition in Cleveland. 338 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 4: I think there is Like I would say, if you 339 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 4: were at OTA's and you were hearing everything out of 340 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 4: camp like, oh, Deshaun Watson's doing this, and oh Deshaun 341 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: Watson's doing that, you weren't hearing a lot of shador 342 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 4: and then as as it got closer to the end 343 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 4: of OTA's Monk and was like, oh, you know, because 344 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 4: he said he wanted to make a decision. Anytime you 345 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 4: get a quarterback competition that's like this going into training camp, 346 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 4: this one just this one feels different. 347 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: I think. 348 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 4: I think Shador Sanders has done a really good job 349 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 4: from everything I've been hearing of, really growing from year 350 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 4: one to year two, right, And I think with this 351 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 4: offense it's really spread out. They use eleven personnel, which 352 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 4: is one back, one tight end, three receivers a lot. 353 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 4: It's similar. There are similar things to what Shador did 354 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 4: in Colorado. And quite honestly, Dan like I never judge 355 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 4: rookie quarterbacks because quarterback play is so difficult. Now, there 356 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 4: were some dumb mistakes that Shador made last year. He'd 357 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 4: be the first one to tell you. But I do 358 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 4: think if you can really just play within that scheme, 359 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 4: they're gonna scheme some stuff up and not make stupid mistakes. 360 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 4: He has to play a lot faster. I think that's 361 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 4: really where the biggest jump from first to second year 362 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 4: quarterbacks is is processing speed. Can he get his processing 363 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 4: speed when he breaks the huddle up. I don't know 364 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 4: it's gonna be a fascinating thing, but I think Chador 365 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 4: sort of has the inside track of the job. I mean, look, 366 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: the Browns have two first round picks next year. Let's 367 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 4: be honest. They're going after Arts Manning, Are there going 368 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 4: after Dantemore? Are they going out whoever it is there? 369 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 4: If you don't get really good quarterback play out of Shoodoor, 370 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 4: I don't think there's any chance. Even if Deshaun plays 371 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: at a Pro Bowl level, he's gonna be back there. 372 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 4: They've wasted so much money on him. Every time he's 373 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 4: played since Houston, it's been like, okay, it just didn't 374 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: push the ball down the field. But I like Schador 375 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 4: in this battle. 376 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: We're talking to Chase Daniel, ESPN College Football NFL analyst 377 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: and his new YouTube channel, The Breakdown, Patrick Mahomes. From 378 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: what you've seen, impressed. 379 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 4: Look the clips I broke down on the page, and 380 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: everything that we've gotten so far had been rookie mini 381 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: camp because the quarterbacks report early with the rookies, or sorry, 382 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 4: rookie training camp like the start because they want to 383 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 4: get going. When I was watching him doing quarterbacks center 384 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 4: exchange and you know, rolling out to the left, it's 385 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 4: clearly his knee is not one hundred percent and neither 386 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 4: it shouldn't be. I think the injury was December thirteenth, 387 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: so you know you count the months, it's it's still 388 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 4: a month and a half, a month away from games. 389 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 4: It's gonna be fascinating. I don't think there's any way 390 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 4: that Patrick Mahomes missus week one. But what's interesting to 391 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 4: me is what happens with that offense because I don't 392 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 4: think he's going to be one hundred percent. He's not 393 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 4: going to be able at first with the big bulky 394 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 4: brace on the left knee. That's what looked to me 395 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 4: to be hindering him a little bit. It's it looks 396 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 4: a little gimpy still, and it should be right. It's 397 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 4: not a full speed it's not one hundred percent. How 398 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 4: does he react when people are around you? I think 399 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 4: that's the biggest thing. But more importantly, how does that 400 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 4: offense change? Because with Andy right, there's already a lot 401 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 4: of quick game. He relies on it a lot. But 402 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 4: where Mahomes is the best is breaking pocket, breaking, containing 403 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 4: getting outside of the pocket. He ain't gonna be able 404 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 4: to do that. And I think there's a reason why 405 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 4: they spent I think it was sixteen seventeen million dollars 406 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 4: on Kenneth Walker is to actually have a running back, 407 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 4: and they have other good running backs there too, But 408 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 4: I was seeing a ton of under center stuff. Maybe 409 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 4: it's where you're getting into that. Hey, we're in two 410 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 4: tight ends, we're in twelve personnel. We're not just gonna 411 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 4: be spread it out while Mahomes gets back. And I 412 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 4: think that's so sort of an underrecognized part of mahomes 413 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: game is under center play action. Just how does he 414 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 4: react with people around him? 415 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 2: Is there a knee If you were gonna have knee surgery, 416 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: that would be better to have. 417 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 9: As far is coming back from you asked the great questions, 418 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 9: because I was just about to say it's I think 419 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 9: it's the left knee, because the left knee is your 420 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 9: push off leg, but it's not your plant leg, meaning 421 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 9: you're pushing off away from under center with your left leg. 422 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 4: If you're a right handed quarterback, which he is, your 423 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: plant leg is your back leg. So when you are 424 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 4: dropping back and trying to get away from the line 425 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: of scrimmage as much as possible, you have to put 426 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 4: a lot of pressure in your back knee to then 427 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 4: drive up within the pocket right you want to set 428 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 4: around ten yards and move up to about nine and 429 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 4: a half yards back from the line of scrimmage so 430 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 4: the tackles can run their guys by. That's how Andy 431 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 4: Reid really does it. But I mean, no knee would 432 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 4: be better, right, but I would say the left knee. 433 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 4: The thing that I'm going to be really watching is 434 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 4: is he going to be throwing all arm? Because when 435 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 4: you're a quarterback and you hurt your left knee, especially right, 436 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 4: that's your landing knee. When you're throwing, you're stepping with 437 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 4: your left foot, and a lot of times if you 438 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 4: can't step all the way or maybe a long enough 439 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 4: stride length, your arm lags behind, and you're really throwing, 440 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 4: you're you're sort of whippy rather than rotational. I'm getting 441 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: nerdy a little bit on it, but that that's something 442 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 4: that is the reality of the situation. And we see 443 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 4: Mahomes on these short intermediate RPO run pass options. We 444 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: see him fake and throw all arm, But I don't 445 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 4: think he's ever, you know, gonna have to worry about armstring. 446 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 4: He can throw it a country mile, but it will 447 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 4: be interesting in a tight pocket. Right at first, how 448 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 4: does he handle the pass rush and it's not even 449 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 4: getting sacked. I don't think getting hid is gonna mess 450 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 4: with it. I think him trusting his knee when there's 451 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 4: a push in the pocket because he's so good in 452 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 4: a phone booth, that's what you call it, throwing in 453 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 4: a phone booth. How is that gonna affect his accuracy. 454 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, though, has made a career of not really 455 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: planting that backfoot. He's back and he's still going back, 456 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: and he's still able to fire around the round the field. 457 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 4: I would say Aaron Rodgers is one of the gray 458 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 4: gatest throwers in terms of arm creativity of all time. 459 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 4: Not many people can be like that arm slot, arm strength, 460 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 4: arm creativity is what you sort of call it. But 461 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 4: if you look at if you look at Rogers' really 462 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 4: career in Green Bay, seventy percent of that stuff is 463 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 4: quick game and then the other thirty percent is him 464 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 4: just making stuff miss. So it was a lot of 465 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 4: quick game. He's checking out the line of scrimmage. It's 466 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 4: a little bit of a different offense. I mean, it's 467 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 4: definitely what mahomes can do. But I'm sure as a thrower, 468 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 4: your arm's gonna get sore if you're doing it differently 469 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 4: than you ever have, right, because you're you're using muscles 470 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 4: that you haven't really needed to in his career. And 471 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 4: I just think, I just I just don't understand the doubt, 472 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 4: like with the Chiefs and Mahomes and everyone's like, oh 473 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 4: down you Like, I just I would take him against 474 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 4: the field if I'm being honest. 475 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 2: I opened the show talking about Baker Mayfield with what 476 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: he's done since he got there, replacing Tom Brady, and 477 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 2: he's put up the number and they won, and here 478 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 2: we are with him looking for a new contract and 479 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 2: now it feels like maybe he goes into this season 480 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: playing this last year. What is his value if you're 481 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: gonna put him with other quarterbacks salary wise, where do 482 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: you place Baker Mayfield? 483 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 4: It's very similar to Brock party, right, Brock's making fifty 484 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 4: five ish, Like I think what Baker has done in 485 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 4: Tampa is very similar to what obviously Perty took him. 486 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 4: Like deep, I get that, but if you look at 487 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 4: the numbers and you look at what he's done at Tampa, 488 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, it's impossible to replace Brady 489 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 4: when they went to Super Bowl, but he's done that 490 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 4: and he's sort of taken on the weight of the organization, 491 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 4: and he's got that chip on his shoulder. I loved 492 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 4: watching Netflix and then in the quarterback thing with him 493 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 4: and his wife Emily, Like, I just he's always got 494 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 4: that chip on his shoulder and it looks like he's 495 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 4: gonna bet on himself again. But I'm guessing his camp 496 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 4: onces similar to brock Party my I mean, you're gonna 497 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 4: look in two or three years and the quarterback, top 498 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 4: quarterback in you know the world's gonna be making seventy million. 499 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 4: So I mean, this is sort of out of touch 500 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 4: a little bit. What is fifty five million for a 501 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 4: guy that has won in Tampa, right, So I'm guessing 502 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 4: that's what he I mean, this is completely just guessing. 503 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 4: I'm guessing that's sort of the similar contract that he 504 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 4: wants with some financial stability, and it doesn't seem like 505 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 4: they're they're gonna give it to him. So it will 506 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 4: be an interesting year because Tampa in general, it's not 507 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 4: the hardest division, right, and I think they could be 508 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 4: really really good. They've got a lot of receivers back 509 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 4: from injury, so it'll be interesting to see how Tampa 510 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 4: plays out with with with the quarterback situation. 511 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 2: Mant who's a better quarterback right now? Party or Baker. 512 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 4: Better? In what term you're gonna kick me? 513 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 2: Oh? Better in what you're gonna start your season just 514 00:26:53,280 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: this season? What offense, well, whatever offen you want. 515 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great question because it does come down 516 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 4: if they're if they're in similar offenses. Like I, I 517 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 4: sort of tend to go brock Purty, say you're both 518 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 4: putting in mcaal Shannon's offense. I I really like brock Purty, 519 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 4: Like I we just we just released a breakdown video 520 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 4: on him on the on the channel, And first of all, 521 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 4: he looks like he's gotten a little bit more swollen. 522 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 4: He looks like, you know, people in the comics were 523 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 4: calling him Quadzilla. It looks like he's like, you know, 524 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 4: it's it's the old Bill Parcell's adage, like hey like 525 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 4: lift and run. But I I like what the forty 526 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 4: nine ers have, like if they can stay healthy like this, 527 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 4: is that their receiver corps is is going to be 528 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 4: really good. I think the sneakiest signing of the off 529 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 4: season is Mike Evans going over there the receiving corp 530 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,479 Speaker 4: in general, stribbling the rookie out of a moment, he's 531 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 4: looking like he's gonna be really good. The biggest thing 532 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 4: CMC is healthy. Can you stay healthy? 533 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: Right? 534 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 4: And and that that's what Shannan has to deal with. 535 00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 4: It's a long season. Keep those boys healthy and you 536 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: gonna make some noise. 537 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 2: I think I didn't even have time to get to 538 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 2: the Cowboys with that great next time, next time. I 539 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 2: love Dak oh next time, but that offense. I mean, 540 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 2: if they they come close to replicating that. The point 541 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: I keep saying is you give me a top fifteen 542 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 2: defense in Dallas with that offense, Now you got a 543 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 2: chance to do some damage. Go to an NFC title game. 544 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 4: I look, and I know it's the America's team, and 545 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 4: I know all this stuff, and I'll be quick and 546 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 4: I would say, top give me a top twenty defense. 547 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 4: Give me a defense that gives up yards, just doesn't 548 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 4: give up points in the red zone, maybe creates some takeaways, 549 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 4: because I'm telling you and I will die on this hill. 550 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 4: Last year, Dak Prescott for most of the year was 551 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 4: the best quarterback outside of Matthew Stafford in the game. 552 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 4: Like you really break down the film and he is 553 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 4: he's sort of the last of the dying breed him 554 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 4: and Dak they're true pocket passers. They go through progressions, 555 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 4: they get in and out of the right places. I mean, 556 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 4: there's some other guys like that, but to do it 557 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 4: at a high level consistently, and then you get ce 558 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 4: Lamb and then you get George Pickt and it's it's 559 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 4: they compliment each other. Well, Shody deserves a lot of credit. 560 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 4: Just give me. Yeah, I mean, I'll go with top fit. 561 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 4: Give me a top fifteen defense. 562 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: I'm with you, and they could go to the NFC 563 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 2: title game, I think so. Yeah. 564 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 4: I mean, there's some good defenses in the NFC, but 565 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 4: no one was really thinking they would do anything. Last 566 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 4: year with Brian Shoteimer was like, who's Brian SCHOTTEI why 567 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 4: are they hired him? 568 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 3: Who's this? 569 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 4: And there's that I'm trying, I know. I mean Drew 570 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 4: Drew Breese was obviously coached by him, and just to 571 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 4: see her, hear Drew talk about him, and to see 572 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 4: the year he had last year. He was sort of 573 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 4: the overlooking guy. Overlooked guy. Yeah, I mean, and I 574 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 4: like the draft. I love that kleeb downs guy too. 575 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: No, I do too. That was a great pick. He'll 576 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: be the leader on that defense. Okay. I always love 577 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 2: having you on. I spent, you know, way too much 578 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: time that I'm supposed to, but you know I can't resist. 579 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 2: Thank you. Good luck with the YouTube channel. We'll talk 580 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: to you soon. 581 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 4: Thanks Dan. 582 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 2: That's Chase Daniel. 583 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 584 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 585 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 586 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: listen live. 587 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: He's the voice of the SEC. He's Paul Finebaum, host 588 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: of The Paul Finebaum Show, Man Big ten Media Day, 589 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: Tony Battiti, the commissioner kind of poke in the SEC, 590 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: and Greg Sanke. What'd you make of that? Paul? 591 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 592 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 10: Dan, when you show up with three trophies right by you, 593 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 10: you're definitely telling the SEC where are you once. 594 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: Sat and where you are now? So listen. 595 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 10: I mean, I love a great show, so there's no 596 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 10: way I couldn't appreciate that. 597 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: But how important is this upcoming season for the SEC 598 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: in football? With those three you know, back to back 599 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: to back titles, and I don't know how much pressure 600 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: is on the SEC as a whole. 601 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 10: Yeah, Dan, I can give you a live report from that. 602 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 10: I just spent four days last week at SEC Media Days, 603 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 10: and you can't put your order in at Starbucks without 604 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 10: here hearing somebody talk about it. 605 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 3: It's on everyone's mind. 606 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 10: And I was stupid enough last year in one of 607 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 10: these interviews in August to say that if the SEC 608 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 10: can't beat the Big Ten this year, I'm leaving their country. 609 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 10: I lost so much money betting against Indiana last year. 610 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 10: I didn't have enough money to leave the country. So 611 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 10: I'm still here. 612 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: I'm not making that claim anymore. 613 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 10: Quite frankly, I'm no longer I jumped off the Titanic. 614 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 10: I'm no longer saying that the SEC is the best conference. 615 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 10: As you know, I wrote a book about eleven or 616 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 10: twelve years ago saying the SEC, my conference, can beat 617 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 10: your conference. Why the SEC school rols college football? And 618 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 10: by the way, Dan, I can get you that book 619 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 10: very cheap right now for mere pennies on the dollar. 620 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 10: But yeah, but the Big Ten is the best conference. 621 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 10: I mean, I mean, I thought we'd get through Media 622 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 10: Days without anyone claiming that, and then on Friday there 623 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 10: is my good friend and yours, Mike Greenberg, interviewing and 624 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 10: I love when people say your colleague Nick Saban, hold on, 625 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 10: he's not my college. 626 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: He's got nine. 627 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 10: Houses, he makes one hundred million dollars a year. He 628 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 10: owned about three Mercedes Benz dealerships. We shared the same 629 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 10: makeup person last week at SEC media Days, not the 630 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 10: same hair person. 631 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 3: His hair person worked on him for about an hour. 632 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 10: They look at me and just shake their head. But 633 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 10: he said, the SEC is still the best. And again 634 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 10: I realize he's on the payroll at Alabama, but the 635 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 10: SEC is not the best. 636 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 3: Dat Okay? 637 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: What happened though? When did it stop being the best? 638 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 3: And why? 639 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 10: A couple of things happened. It was happening a little 640 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 10: bit before. I mean, Saban leaving didn't help. He did 641 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 10: win six national championships during his tenure at Alabama one 642 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 10: before that at LSU. But I think the end of 643 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 10: Saban uh and and really some very weird, bizarre and 644 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 10: bad coaching hires h l s U has had three 645 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 10: straight coaches to win a national championship, Saban less miles. 646 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 10: Now when less Miles wins the national championship? A year school. 647 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: Talent? 648 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 649 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 10: And then oh now, oh you'n you know he had 650 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,719 Speaker 10: Joe Burrows and you know endless number of the NFL 651 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 10: wide receivers. But Brian Kelly couldn't you know, I was 652 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 10: getting to Brian Kelly eventually. Uh he was a bus 653 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 10: Uh No one really saw that when coming. Other other 654 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 10: coaching mistakes were made. But the person that really I 655 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 10: think is responsible for it is Kirby Smart because he 656 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 10: took over for Saban. He won two in a row, 657 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 10: probably should have won two or three more. And then 658 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 10: in the last couple of years, I mean three years ago, 659 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 10: I think, not to start a war with the dealer 660 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 10: deally departed Jim Harball, but I think Georgia had the 661 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 10: best team in the country in twenty three and they 662 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 10: found a way to lose the SEC championship game, which 663 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 10: meant they didn't go to the playoff and today they 664 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 10: would have. 665 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 3: So that was one year, and then the next two 666 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 3: years Georgia found. 667 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 10: A way to lose the Notre Dame in the Tugar 668 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 10: Bowl and last year, so I think some of it's there, 669 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 10: and just some very average coaching decisions made in the 670 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 10: SEC where the big ten went out and really started 671 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 10: shoring it up. 672 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 3: And you know, Signette's already been litigated, but Dan Lanning. 673 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 3: You know, he's an SEC guy. 674 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 10: He worked for Saving, he worked for Kirby, he's at Oregon, 675 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 10: and you have other situations like that. And you know, 676 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 10: the biggest surprise is Ryan Day. I mean, he was 677 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 10: about to get fired a couple of years ago and 678 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 10: he screwed everyone up by winning of the national championships. 679 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,720 Speaker 2: Talking to Paul Finebaum, host of The Paul finebaumb Show, 680 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen playoff feels it's not a question of if, 681 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 2: but when I agree, yeah, and. 682 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 10: Again Tony Fatigi wants it. Now what does Tony fatd want? 683 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 10: He's the Big Ten commissioner from Queens as the Harvard 684 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 10: law degrees. But in baseball, been in television. It's the 685 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 10: television play He said, I'm more than willing to give 686 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 10: up the Big Ten Championship game. The SEC is not. 687 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,239 Speaker 10: The SEC claims the Big Ten Championship. The SEC Championship 688 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 10: game is worth one hundred million dollars. Dan, but the 689 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 10: s What they don't really want you to know is 690 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 10: that right now, ESPN controls the College Football Playoff at twelve. 691 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 10: If it starts getting larger, they lose the exclusivity, which 692 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 10: means that they. 693 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 3: They get to. 694 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 10: Sell those early games between Liberty and Oregon and Chiulane 695 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 10: and Ole miss that that even ESPN at the risk 696 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 10: of I don't want to go down the road a 697 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 10: few weeks ago. But SPN outsources those games. They I mean, 698 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 10: you work there, Did they ever outsource games when you 699 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 10: worked at ESPN? No, they outsource those because they're played 700 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 10: like eleven o'clock in the morning and three in the 701 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 10: afternoon while you're doing Christmas shopping. 702 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 2: Who is Indiana this year? If it's not Indiana, Yeah, I. 703 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,760 Speaker 10: Don't think it is Indiana because they have a really 704 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 10: difficult schedule. I don't I'm not convinced they can get there. 705 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 10: But Penn State has a chance. And in case you 706 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 10: missed it, James Franklin is no longer there, so they 707 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 10: will be good again. Rest assured that national nightmare of 708 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 10: twelve years is over. They have a very good coach 709 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 10: in Matt Campbell. He was always on somebody's list, the Cowboys, 710 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 10: this school of Acts. 711 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 3: They had the easiest schedule in the country. 712 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 10: They don't play any of the top three teams in 713 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 10: the Big ten Ohio State, Indiana, Oregon. So if you 714 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 10: missed that's three losses, right, there that they can overcome. 715 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 10: If they can find a way to nine ten wins, 716 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 10: they're probably gonna need ten wins because there are three 717 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 10: non conference games are against Alleghany Altoona in East Pittsford 718 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 10: High School. 719 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 2: How did Lane Kiffin do last week at the SEC 720 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:16,439 Speaker 2: media day? 721 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 3: Oh? 722 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 10: I missed that, Dan. I wish you would let me 723 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 10: know he was going to be there. I would have 724 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 10: paid more attention. He did great, And I'll tell you 725 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 10: why he didn't say a word. He got in there 726 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 10: in philibuster. You probably you probably played the clip, but 727 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 10: I mean the most profound statement he made when asked 728 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 10: why he left, why he left Ole miss in the 729 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 10: midst of a playoff run. He got into a dietrob 730 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 10: about his dad dying, which everybody feels badly about the 731 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 10: famous coach Montey Kiffin, and then he connected his dad 732 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 10: dying to the death of Hulk Cogan. 733 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 3: He said, I just never saw that coming. Listen. 734 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 10: I saw the thirty for thirty on Hull Cogan. How 735 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 10: he made it to forty, I'll never know, let alone 736 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 10: sixty eight or whatever it was when they tagged his toe. 737 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 10: So I just don't know, Dan, what Kiffen was trying 738 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 10: to prove other than he didn't really want to talk 739 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 10: about it. But he'll get a few more opportunities in 740 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 10: case some of you folks have missed it. First game 741 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 10: of the season primetime Flemson at LSU, and then the 742 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,959 Speaker 10: third game, stop me if you got this one marked 743 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 10: on your calendar. September nineteenth, Lane goes back to Ole 744 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 10: Miss And what's even remarkable about the LSU schedule In November, 745 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 10: Lane gets to go back to Tennessee, so. 746 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 3: He will be. 747 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 10: Hated twice to the there will be a brawl in 748 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 10: the street somewhere between Miss and Ole Miss fans and 749 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,240 Speaker 10: Tennessee fans about which school hates Lane Kiffin the most. 750 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 2: He doesn't play USC though. 751 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 10: No, but can you imagine that's the first round of 752 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 10: the playoff, Wayne Kiffin and he has to go to 753 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 10: Southern Cow. 754 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 2: Always great to talk. You're in mid season form already. 755 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 2: I'm very very impressed. 756 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 3: Then it's a pleasure. Thank you very much. 757 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: Thank you, Paul. That's Paul Fine on