1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Let not your heart be troubled. You are listening to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity Radio Show podcast. So, like many of you, 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: I have trouble sleeping. I have insomnia. No matter what 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: I tried, it wouldn't work until I met Mike Lindell 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: and I got my very own my pillow. It has 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: changed my life. What makes my pillows so different is 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: my pillows patented adjustable fill. In other words, you can 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: adjust the patented fill to your exact individual needs so 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: you get the support you need and want to help 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: you get to sleep faster and stay asleep longer. 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We'll get to Matt Lauer, everything 30 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: you need to know, and then some things you'll wish 31 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: you never heard about this Matt Lauer. We'll get to 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: the tax plan, We'll get to the NFL. Uh. We'll 33 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: get to the next person who's gonna be caught in 34 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: sexual harassment. I don't know who it is, but it's 35 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: a three hour show. Somebody will be caught before this 36 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: is over. It'll be song. I guarantee you. Before the 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: show's over, somebody will come out. Congressman Conyers may have 38 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: a press conference, will bring it to you live if 39 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: it happens. If I were him, I would just go 40 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: into hiding, just doing Al Frank and he too. Anybody 41 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: says anything, I'm deeply embarrassed. I'm ashamed. I'm uh that, 42 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: Al Franken. How many apologies is this now? Like thousands? 43 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: And now we could close the deficit. We just had 44 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: a dollar for every time this guy apologizes. So General Flynn, Uh, 45 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: where do we even begin? It was this morning that 46 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: it leaked out this uh Mueller investigation loves to leak, 47 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: so it leaked it out first that General Flynn would 48 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: plead guilty, and he did earlier this morning. He went 49 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: into a courtroom pled guilty. So I guess that makes 50 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: him convicted. Now the deal is he will testify, he 51 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: will become a witness for Mueller, and an exchange for that, 52 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: he will get prison time from zero to six months 53 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: if his cooperation, his testimony, If everything holds up, it 54 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: will most likely be zero but at the most, at 55 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: the most it would be six months, but probably zero. 56 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: H Here's the thing about Mueller. He has absolutely, most 57 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: likely absolutely no case. Nothing. He's uncovered absolutely nothing. All 58 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: you can do in a case like that when you 59 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: uncover nothing is try to indict people on anything. You 60 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: get manifort on a crime from back in the nineties 61 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: or from his lobbying days. You find some financial thing 62 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: he did and you indict him on that, and you 63 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: threatened to send him to prison unless he gives you 64 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: something on this case. So, even though you found nothing 65 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: in this case, by doing that to him and you 66 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: indict his associate, you threatened to send them to prison 67 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: if they don't give you something on this case because 68 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: you can't find it. Maybe he can give it to you. 69 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: And if you've really got no case, then you bust 70 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: into Manifort's house at four in the morning with guns 71 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: drawn and his wife, and Manifort and his wife are 72 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: in bed. You put the guns right in their face. 73 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: This is when you've got no case at all. If 74 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: you've got a great case and you found stuff, you 75 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: don't have to pull any of this stuff. So in 76 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: the case of General Flynn, if you want to get 77 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: something on him, you indict his son. You go after 78 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: his children, you get them in a legal news and 79 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: then you threaten to indict his son unless he cooperates. 80 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: And very often what they do in these beyond interrogation. 81 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: They'll come interview for three hours and I'm gonna come 82 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: back a week later, an interview for three hours, then 83 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: they'll come back a week later an interview for three hours. 84 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: Then they'll carefully compare all these transcripts to find any discrepancy. 85 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: If there's one syllable discrepancy, you've got a problem. By 86 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: the way, it's interesting a note with the Hillary uh interrogation, 87 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: they didn't make notes because that's when you can trap 88 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,559 Speaker 1: them in a perjury thing. That's why they deliberately didn't 89 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: make notes. So, but somehow Flynn got himself caught up 90 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: in something. Probably not the best attorneys on that, because 91 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 1: that's what an attorney will deal. Make sure you don't 92 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: say anything that could be considered lying to the FBI, 93 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: because that's where he's charged. He's not charged with any 94 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: specific crime, but what they call a process crime. Somewhere 95 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: in the process he lied, so that's what he's charged with. 96 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: Now there's probably other charges. That's something. That's another thing 97 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: they do when they have no case. They don't charge 98 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: you with everything. Sometimes you'll say, well, if it was 99 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: really that, by why didn't they charge that. They hold 100 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: those charges back, and they'll let you know they're holding 101 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: them back. For instance, here's another thing you do and 102 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: you have no case. In the case of Paul Manifort. 103 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: A lot of people are saying, well, if he really 104 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: did all that stuff with the money, how come they 105 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: didn't charge it with tax evasion. They deliberately didn't do that. 106 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: They're holding that one back. And the reason they hold 107 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: that one back is the only thing Manifold could say 108 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: is I'll get a presidential pardon, I don't have to worry. 109 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: But they're holding the tax charge. And if he got 110 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: a presidential pardon, they'll go ahead with the tax charge, 111 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: but they'll do it locally. They'll do it in New 112 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: York State and the presidential pardon won't apply. So these 113 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: are the kind of things you have to do when 114 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: you have to terrify people into talking. And sometimes even 115 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: if they haven't got anything, you know what, they'll make 116 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: up something. They'll come up with something. Or when you've 117 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 1: got them terrified and you're gonna put their kid in jail, 118 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: you could say to them, didn't the President the direct 119 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: you to do that? And you'd say, yeah, yeah, I 120 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: think so. You'll testify that, yeah, I think so. So 121 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: sometimes you get that kind of a situation. So, uh, 122 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: here's the problem with General Flynn. It looks like everything 123 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 1: they're talking about. And what they're talking about is that 124 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: at some point he spoke to the Russian ambassador or 125 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: spoke to somebody Russian and tried to say, you know what, 126 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: don't do anything. Get on the sanction, she said another word, 127 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: started setting up communication. But from everything they've said so far, 128 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: it's after the election, so it's the president elect. Now 129 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: you could find some law where technically you're not supposed 130 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: to do that till you're actually the president. But if 131 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: you ever got in front of a jury, I don't 132 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: think they'd worry about that little technicality. Average juror would 133 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 1: say himselves, you know what, he's the president elect. He's 134 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: basically just sending a message to Russia you hold off, 135 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: wait till we get in office. Well, it won't sound 136 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: too outlandish to a jury, So I can't see a 137 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: jury convicting anybody on that. You remember the miss clip 138 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: of President Obama where he leans over to the Russian 139 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: ambassador before the election and says, tell Vladimir, after the election, 140 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: I'll have more flexibility. My last plection yet unless my 141 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: lection that I have more flexibility undertake disunished the listener, 142 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: Unless that Jason is so slow took him like half 143 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: a millisecond to find the cliff getting old. So that's 144 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: the other thing. If you ever went to a courtroom, 145 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: they would just play this clip of President Obama. He 146 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: did exactly the same thing. And then the Muller people 147 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: will argue, but technically, you can't do it unless you're 148 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: the actual president. The president elect can't do it. But 149 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: to the average juror, they're really not going to be 150 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: bothered by that little technicality. I said, I don't see 151 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: any conviction here. Uh should the president worry? Well, if you, 152 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: it depends if you watch Fox. That's a little another 153 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: little chess move in the game. But I had more 154 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: fun just for an hour watching MSNBC. The president is 155 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: practically in the electric chair. If you watch MSNBC, it's 156 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: talking about the exposure he faces. This is the Uh, 157 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: this has never been anything like this. This is unbelievable. 158 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: The firing of Comy, that's the other thing. It's all 159 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: supposedly goes to the firing of Comy. He fired Comy 160 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: to protect Flynn. Well, let's say you ever did get 161 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: into a courtroom, all you have to do is run 162 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: a video. It's up on YouTube. There's a montage of 163 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: every major Democrat demanding that Coomy be fired. This is 164 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: the day before, the week before, they all demanded Coomy 165 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: be fired. Just show that to a jury, every Democrat, 166 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: everybody was calling for Comy to be fired. The only 167 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: question is why did he wait? Why didn't he fire 168 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: him the day after he took office? So I don't 169 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: see how any of this would would mean much in 170 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: front of a jury. But let me know what you think. 171 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: One nine, one Sean is the number one nine for 172 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: one Sean. It's a strange world, isn't here trying so 173 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: hard to put General Flynn in jail? But bo Bergdahl, 174 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: you can go. You didn't do anything. What a world 175 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: we live in. So we got lost to get to 176 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: We got to, of course get back to General Flynn. 177 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: Throughout the program, remind me to get to al Franken. 178 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: Uh you know, they said, h this now, how many 179 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: areas six six accusers of al frankins a sixth accuser 180 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: and it's getting worse for al frank And the last 181 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: one was in a lawmaker And they just keep saying 182 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: a lawmaker, somebody in Congress, or it might have been 183 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: a local legislator, but they keep saying a lawmaker. She's anonymous, 184 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: but she's the sixth accuser. The fifth accuser is a 185 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: military woman, a veteran. So this doesn't look good. This 186 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: looks pretty bad for Al Franken. He's gotta go. He's 187 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: gonna be out by i'd say January. Somewhere by January, 188 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: he'll be gone. He'll have to resign. He just can't 189 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: face it. As I said Congressman Kanyers, we'll hold a 190 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: press conference for bringing that live. When that happens, I 191 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: assume when you hold a press conference, you're gonna resign. 192 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: But everybody keeps saying open he's gonna he's gonna hold 193 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: his press conference and say he's gonna fight till the end. Uh, 194 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: it's a little crazy. He's already paid off accusers, he'd 195 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: made payments. Obviously guilty. He's got a long history of this. 196 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: Everybody is has been talking about it for years, so 197 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: he'll try to hang in there. Hey, the other question is, 198 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: and I keep asking this, nobody can answer this. You 199 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: know this all started this looking for sexual harassers. It 200 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: was to take out uh, you know some of those groups, right. 201 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,239 Speaker 1: They wanted to take out conservative broadcasters, so they targeted 202 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: them and then they might have gotten a couple. But 203 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: once you open that can of worms, for the last 204 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: two months, it's been taken out dozens and dozens and 205 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: dozens of liberals, broadcasters, anchormen, uh, people in government. So 206 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: if you take the list of everybody that's been caught 207 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: in all of this, it's nine point nine percent liberal. 208 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: Now why is that? I don't mean to make this partisan, 209 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: but it's in me question, why is it ninety eight democratic? 210 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: I could see it being democratic seventy percent, but why 211 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: is it almost all Democrats? And you could argue, well, 212 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: when you get into Hollywood, it's all democrats there anyway, 213 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: when you get into broadcasting the networks, that's all Democrats. 214 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: But it's interesting, isn't it? And from what I hear, 215 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: the next one is coming again all Democrats. So let's 216 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: take a college. Let's go to Brian in Arizona. Brian, 217 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: how you doing? Yes, pretty good? Thanks for taking the call. 218 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: Where are you from? Originally from Belfast? Very good? Excuse 219 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: me family, I've lived here in the States from nine. 220 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: We're both legal aliens at the time. We took our 221 00:11:54,720 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: American citizenship two years ago on January the eight on 222 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: our coach, and the primary was for our sitting president, 223 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: President Trump, who is doing a fantastic job. Well, thanks 224 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 1: support from my household. Thanks for calling. Good call from Arizona. Yeah. 225 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: You know, if you just step back, uh, totally nonpartisan. 226 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: You just step back and look at the first year 227 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: of President Trump. The stock market has broken records six 228 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: times now, it's at an all time high. The stock 229 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: market has added six trillion dollars in value, uh in 230 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: market cap. You've got growth at three point three percent. 231 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: We're praying to get the three percent where three point 232 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: three percent. Unemployment at a low that we haven't hit 233 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: in a million years. We're down to four percent. It's 234 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: been a great first year. A lot of that is 235 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: the result of taking out nine and seventy regulation. It's 236 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: been a blockbuster first year. As far as jobs the economy. 237 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: You've got all kinds of factories, companies coming over to 238 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: America for the first time. You got that deal that 239 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: he made in China. By the way, if you're an 240 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: MSNBC view or you won't know about this. It was 241 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: not reported, but on that China trip, besides all the 242 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: other successes, China agreed to invest two and fifty billion 243 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: in this country. Virginia Loane is getting eighty billion of it. So, 244 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: I mean, great things have happened in the first year, 245 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: but everybody makes it look like it's a total disaster. Uh. 246 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: One more call. Let's go to Frank and Glendora, California. Hey, Frank, Hey, 247 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: how are you doing? Good? Good talking to you. I've 248 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: you ever talked to you before? I can tell what 249 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: you want to say. Frank. Well, Uh, I wonder whether 250 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: this is all leading to with the president because I 251 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: know they're trying the obstruction of justice angle. Uh, but 252 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, like you said, it is more or everyone 253 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: called for Comey to be fired. So that's not what 254 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: law are they after? Is it carm paigne finance laws? Well, 255 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: do you bring up a good question. It's a very 256 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: good question, Frank. But here's the here's the bottom line 257 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: all of this call me h. Mueller and Comey. I 258 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: think they're working together. But Mueller has been on this 259 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: for a year. We're almost a year into this and 260 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: at the end of the first year they've found nothing, 261 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. If they opened up this case and they 262 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: found all kinds of things going on, you would never 263 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: hear a leak. You wouldn't see anybody gett indicted for 264 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: these little process crimes or getting indicted for something from 265 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: ten years ago. If they had found big things, they 266 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: would keep very quiet. They would hold a press conference 267 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: one day and announce these big, blockbuster things they found 268 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: and that would be it. But that's not the case. 269 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: They found nothing. So when you find nothing again, you 270 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: got to go into Manafort's house in the middle of 271 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: the night with your guns out and try to terrify him. 272 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: You got to indict him on money laundering or something 273 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: like that from his lobbying days from a million years ago. 274 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: And you've got to indict General Flynn's kid and try 275 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: to scare him that way. That's when you've got nothing. 276 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: But we'll keep talking about this. Mark Simone here, Hey, 277 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter, Mark Simone and Wyatt Twitter. A 278 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: lot of stuff up there, Mark Simone in Wyatt Twitter, 279 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: and Sean will be back on Monday. You don't forget 280 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: Hannity tonight, nine o'clock Fox News Channel back in a moment. 281 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: And you know how I love hearing great American success 282 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: stories and sharing them all with you. Well, our favorite 283 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: T shirt underwear sock company, Tommy john Well that's one 284 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: of them now. 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You know, 303 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: and every contract in broadcasting is what's called the morals clause. 304 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: If you get caught in a terrible scandal and you 305 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: bring disgrace to the network, they can end the contract. 306 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: They don't have to pay off the contracts avoided by that. 307 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:46,239 Speaker 1: And there's no more dramatic example of getting caught in UH. 308 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: That's morals clause coming into play. So they just fired him. 309 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: They don't have to give him anything. But there was 310 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: a year and a half remaining on the contract, and 311 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: that would be a year and a half would be 312 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars. So he's demanding the money, and you're 313 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: saying to yourself, well, they'll never pay that. They don't 314 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: have to. They'll pay it. He'll get the money. I'll 315 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: tell you why. Everybody at NBC knew about this. Everybody 316 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: on the Today Show knew about this. Everybody running NBC, 317 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: all those UH people knew about this, and they covered 318 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: it up for years. And Matt Lauer can pretty much 319 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: a document that he can talk about times he's discussed 320 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: it with them, So they need to keep him quiet. 321 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: He'll get his thirty million. Maybe they'll negotiate it to 322 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: twenty million, but he could spill the beans on a 323 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: lot of NBC management and other anchors in that so 324 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: he'll probably get the money. Hey, Greg, Jared will be 325 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: with us. He is the great Fox News legal analysts. 326 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: We'll go over General Flynn and exactly what could happen here. 327 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: It's Mark Simone for Sean Hannity. Sean will be back 328 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 1: on Monday. We've got lots coming up, Larry Cudlow and more, 329 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 1: all later in the show. John Kanyes may hold the 330 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: press conference at any moment. We'll bring you that live 331 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: to stay with us. Mark Simone here on the Sean 332 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: Hannity Show. The administration's effort to continually dismiss all of 333 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: these figures, I'll be anxious to hear what they say 334 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: when their National Security advisor again please guilty in terms 335 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: of lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian 336 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 1: stan one step courser to proof of collision. Listen, I 337 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: think we have got more work to do, and we're 338 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: gonna do the take as long as it takes to 339 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: get all of the facts. You know it. We've got 340 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: a number of major figures like Donald Trump Jr. I 341 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: want to bring back Jared Kushner, particularly in light of 342 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: some of the supposed comments that General Flynn may have 343 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: been making. Um, we've got other individuals like Michael Collin 344 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: and others that we still need to come back. But 345 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: we've got more facts to gather. But there seems to 346 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: be this. You know, we've got now two people pleading guilty. 347 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: We've got a campaign manager and his deputy still under indictment. 348 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: How many more figures have to be brought to justice 349 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: because of their ties with Russia before we end up 350 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: connecting all these others. Hey, it's Mark Simone here for 351 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity. Uh, we got lots to talk about Greg Jared. 352 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: Is he one of your favorites? Now? Everybody keeps saying that. 353 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: Of course absolutely, Fox News legal analysts all over the 354 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: place on Fox News, and great to have him here 355 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: with us. Gregg Jared, how you doing, Mark, Pleasure to 356 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: be with you. Hey, am I right, You're like you've 357 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: seen a million of these cases. If the Mueller team, 358 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: if they're leaking stuff out, if they're trying to indict 359 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: people's kids, if they're breaking into your house with guns 360 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: drawn in the middle of the night, that usually indicates 361 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: they have an uncovered blockbuster stuff they're trying to squeeze 362 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: people to get something. Is that would that be correct? Yeah? 363 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: I think it's right. And I think we've seen some 364 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: rather thuggish tactics so far used by Muller and his 365 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: chief prosecutor, Andrew Weissman. And Wiseman in particular has a 366 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: long and distinct his track record of abusing power and 367 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: engaging in conduct which is ethically questionable. So that doesn't 368 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: surprise me. But and and honestly, today's you know, guilty 369 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: plea by Michael Flynn doesn't surprise me. He lied not once, 370 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: but twice, lied to the Vice president and got fired 371 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: for it, lied to the FBI, and now to be 372 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: punished under the law. You know. The question is whether 373 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: he'll implicate anybody in the Trump administration, and if so, 374 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: for what crime? I don't see any Why would he 375 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: lie to the FBI. I would assume a guy like 376 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: this would give himself some top attorneys before he spoke 377 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: to the FBI, and they would make it clear to 378 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: him not to lie about anything. How can you make 379 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: that mistake? Even smart people do stupid things. Um, you know, 380 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: I I long ago sort of gave up trying to 381 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: figure out why they do that. I mean, I understand why. 382 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: You know, Papadopolis may have have lied because he's what 383 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: years old? You know, I was pretty stupid when I 384 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: was twenty or thirty years old, or at least I 385 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: did some stupid stuff. Uh, Flynn, it's curious. Um, you know, um, 386 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: maybe he was in the intelligence community for so long 387 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: that he you know, he thought that lines. Okay, yeah, uh, 388 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: let's say, because it looks like what he may have 389 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: done is uh. And Trump apparently at that point was 390 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: already president elect. He may have tried to contact Russia 391 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: to give him a message, you know, don't worry about 392 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: the sanctions. But you can do that when you're president. 393 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: I guess technically legally you're not supposed to do in 394 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: your president elect. But when you get in front of 395 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: a jury, are they going to really worry about that 396 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: little distinction. Well, I don't think that it would ever 397 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: get in front of a jury. And here's why. It 398 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: is only arguably a crime under the Logan Act. But 399 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, Mark that was passed in sevent It makes 400 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: it a felony for a private citizen to interfere and 401 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: international disputes between the US and foreign governments. Nobody has 402 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: ever been prosecuted under the Act. Why because most lawyers 403 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: and judges agree it's likely unconstitutional. Uh. And second of all, 404 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: Flynn was not acting as a private citizen, as the 405 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: law defines it. He was acting in a wholly different 406 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 1: capacity as a government representative of a president about to 407 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: assume office. And this is what presidential transition teams do. 408 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: I I talked to several months ago with a professor 409 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: in Texas who wrote a book on it. It's called 410 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: Presidential Transitions in American Foreign Policy, and he said, are 411 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: you kidding me? This is the kind of stuff that 412 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: transition teams routinely do and must do. It's irresponsible not 413 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: to do it. So I find it hard to believe 414 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: that a Logan Act violation would ever be charged. So 415 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: let me go back to that question. I write that 416 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: if if he had uncovered big, big bombshells, we would 417 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: not hear a leak, nothing would happen one day, they 418 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: would just be a press conference they unveil these bombshells. 419 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: The fact that we're doing this petty little stuff means 420 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: he's found nothing. Well, I can say this for sure, 421 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: he's found nothing about Trump Russian collusion during the campaign. 422 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: Let's remember it's you know, I mean, it's not a 423 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: crime to talk to a Russian even though the ignorant media, 424 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: mainstream media seems to think so. Show me the statute 425 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: that makes it a grid a crime of collusion in 426 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: in anti trust law, but not in a campaign. Now, 427 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: having said that, there is a campaign election law that 428 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: prohibits the exchange of money between UH campaign officials and 429 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: foreign nationals, such as the money that was given to 430 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: foreign nationals by the Clinton campaign to obtain negative information 431 00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: the so called Trump dossier. That would be a crime. Hey, um, 432 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: all that's leaked out so far. I said, he's going 433 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: to testify against President Trump. He's going to say that 434 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: he directed me to make contact with Russia. And wouldn't 435 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: that also proved there was absolutely no collusion. Why if 436 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: there was collusion, why would he need to start making 437 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: contact with Russia. Well, that's a that's a valid point out. 438 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: I mean, look, I have read the documents made public 439 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: by Mueller today, which is the statement of offense that 440 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,400 Speaker 1: was signed by Flynn. Um, he doesn't say in that 441 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: statement that President Trump directed him to do things to 442 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: engage in conversations with the Russians. Uh. It simply refers 443 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: to as a senior transition officials, our own John Roberts, 444 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: who is reporting that based on a reliable source. That's 445 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: kat McFarlane, who was the senior official President Trump. So 446 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, she would arguably be facing a Logan Act violation. 447 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: But as I said, I just don't see it a violation. Um. President, 448 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: you know, there is no evidence in this statement issue 449 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: today by Mueller about Trump Russian collusion during the campaign. 450 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: It's it's not in here. Huh. I know Katie McFarland. 451 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know Katie McFarland. And there's no finer 452 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: person working harder for a country than Katie McFarland. I 453 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: can't imagine a prosecutor trying to make something out of that. Yeah. 454 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: And look, she she worked all the way going back 455 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: to the Reagan administration. She's very experienced. She knows what's 456 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: legal and what's not legal. And I'm sure that she 457 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: felt as these conversations didn't violate the Logan Act. And uh, 458 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 1: and she may have also been of the opinion is 459 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 1: less lawyers, judges, and legal scholars are that the Logan 460 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: Acts is not constitutional, So forget about it. Hey, Greg Jared, 461 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 1: great legal analyst Fox News. As long as I got 462 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: you on the line, listen, can I just ask you 463 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: about Matt Lower For second, every shirt, every contract has 464 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: the morals clause. If you've get in terrible disgrace and 465 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: you bring all kinds of embarrassment to the network, they 466 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 1: can fire you. And clearly he did that, and clearly 467 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: they can use the morals clause and cut his contract. 468 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: But he's asking for thirty million dollars. Now if he 469 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: has information, if he could actually testify that they knew 470 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: about it, We've had talks about it in the past, 471 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: they were covering up they knew about it. You think 472 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: that way he could get a payoff a thirty million 473 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: You know, anything's possible, and and sometimes you know, a 474 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: payout of a portion of a contract is you know, 475 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: hush money. I've certainly seen it before where a company 476 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: doesn't want an employee to start talking about something that's 477 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: damaging a controversial so they just pay out their contract. Um. 478 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: There's also another argument that he gets a severance pay 479 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: based on the twenty shott years he's worked on The 480 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: Today Show. Uh and sometimes that's considered to be a 481 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: month for every year you've been there, and given his pay, 482 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: that would be a substantial amount. So we just don't 483 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: know what's in his contract. Yeah, but if there had 484 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: been uh talk of this through the years and it 485 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: had gotten up to NBC management, are they then vulnerable 486 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: to vulnerable to a million lawsuits from victims? They absolutely are, 487 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: because that would make them complicit. Um. You know, it's 488 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: the equivalent of aiding and abetting in criminal cases. Um. 489 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, they have a duty to uh police their 490 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: own uh employment a situation in the halls of NBC, 491 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: and failure to do that and being negligent is actionable. 492 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: I don't believe Andy Lack for one moment when he said, oh, 493 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: do you I did nothing about it. I don't believe 494 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: Jeff Zucker, who's now at CNN but you know, presided 495 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: over NBC News, who says, oh, it's surprised to me. 496 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: I knew about it. I didn't even work there. I know, 497 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: it's sort of like everybody everybody knew. But you know, 498 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: there was a friar's roast of Matt Lower was about 499 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: five years ago, and I forgot. I was reminded today 500 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: and these are all as friends and everybody doing the rest. 501 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: They were all making jokes about him fooling around, So 502 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: it was that well known. So it wasn't even a 503 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: best kept secret. It was it was pretty open. If 504 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: you're the NBC insurance company, are you telling NBC right now? 505 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: You know you've got to be careful. You're vulnerable here 506 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: to a lot of lawsuits and this could cost a 507 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: fortune and settlements. Yeah, although some companies are self insured 508 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: up to a certain limit and then they only buy 509 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: excess liability coverage. So who knows you know whose pocket 510 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: this comes out of. Wow, Well, great work has always 511 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: and you can watch great Jared all over the Fox 512 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: News Channel, Fox Business Network and keep up the good work. 513 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us, my pleasure. Mark, all right, 514 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: take care. Oh interesting stuff. Who's next? Who's next? Well, 515 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: we'll see if we can figure it out. We'll take 516 00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: some calls. Sean is the number. Mark Simone here for 517 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: Shawn Hannity, follow me on Twitter, Mark Simone n Y 518 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: at Twitter and of course Hannity dot Com and Hannity 519 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: at Twitter, and we'll take some calls in a minute. 520 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: Larry Cudlow and more coming up on the Shawn Hannity Show, 521 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: Bad for America, CBS TV, and it's the news like 522 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: nobody else. This is the Shawn Hannity Show. Hey, welcome back. 523 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: It's Mark Simone here for Shawn Hannity. Sean will be 524 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: back on Monday. It's been a long week. I can 525 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: see where he took the day with a long week, Linda, 526 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: Are you okay? Something's wrong with Linda? You know it's 527 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: been a long week. When I get to day and 528 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,719 Speaker 1: I have a hat on, I'm just too tired. You've 529 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: been talking like this all day? What's wrong with what 530 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking? I come in and you go, hello, how 531 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: are you normally walking? I wanted to ease you in. 532 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: I figured we all had a rough week. I figured 533 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: i'd stopped barking orders. It's Friday. First of all, that 534 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: was from when I was out thick and they had 535 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: they recorded me just so that if Sean acted up. 536 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: You know, they had a little little something in the 537 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: Can you listener on the phone? What do you want? 538 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: Come on? Hurry up? But I listen to the phone. Hello. 539 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: You know we're supposed to be friends. Okay, nice stop? 540 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm gonna hear that. My sleep. That's right. 541 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you a little MP three of us 542 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: so you can wake up to it every day. Could 543 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: I have a copy of that? Make that my ring tone? Hey? 544 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: I hear in Hollywood they're very, very worried about the Oscars. 545 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: There are panic meetings trying to figure out how to 546 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: handle everything. Normally, you got all the big producers. Harvey 547 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: Weinstein is a big part of the Oscars. You got 548 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: these other guys, these Rehet Rattner's first of all, the 549 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: whole front two rows. They're not gonna be there this 550 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: year because they're all either hiding, are gonna be in jail. 551 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: By then. I thought they were all on sex therapy. Yeah, 552 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: they're all sex therapy on the rehabilitation center together. And 553 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: they got Kevin Spacey and a million others. I also, 554 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: I hear there's a bunch of actors who are about 555 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: to go down. You will not be seeing them. So 556 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: they have Jimmy Kimmel as the MC. That's because they 557 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: want a really funny model. I go out there and 558 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: just make a lot of great jokes. Now they're in 559 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: panic about the let's go over this exactly what you're 560 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: gonna say? Uh? And exactly what you're gonna do, and 561 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna believe me. There's maybe no child stars coming 562 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: on stage. They gotta edit every film clip very carefully. 563 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: They're very sensitive about this. I don't know you've watched 564 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: the Carny Awards. That's on Saturday night. It's on Cozy Oh. 565 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: I love that one. Our friend Elvis Duran is on 566 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: at Tom bergeron his host This is a great one. 567 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: It's all the character actors. It's like the uh Oscars 568 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: of character actors. You know, the certain people. You don't 569 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: know the guy's name, but I've seen that guy. He 570 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: was in Steinfeld, he was in Everybody Loves Raymond. He's 571 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: in a million shows. And they're all the nicest people 572 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: because they're very they're all working constantly, but they're not 573 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: big stars. If they brought you in the dressing room 574 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: and hit the button like Matt Lower locks the door, 575 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: you wouldn't care. You kind of like me. You know, 576 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm a supporting actor. You're the star. You know, we 577 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: just step aside make room for the big name. Yeah. 578 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: And this Matt Lower when he said to the obviously 579 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: the NBC engineers had to install this button. He had 580 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: a special button under his desk. He had locked the doors. 581 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: They must have gone to somebody and said, you know 582 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: what he wants us to do. And when he explained that, 583 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: whoever it was, these low life NBC executives, they actually said, 584 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: man put it into whatever he wants. But he wasn't 585 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: the only one. Isn't that correct? I've heard there were 586 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: multiple people with these locks, he says there were. I don't. 587 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: I don't think Lester hold neither one of those locks. 588 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody else. By the way, Lester whole 589 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: knew about Matt Lauer. Everybody knew about Matt Lower. Jeff 590 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: Zucker knew about Matt Lauer. They all knew about Mattler. 591 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: I hear him all now. I had no idea. There 592 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: was never even a hint of this. Believe me, there 593 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: were plenty of hints of this. You see the Savannah 594 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: Guthrie on TV crying she should get the Oscar for 595 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: Best Actress of the Year. I'm still trying to process this. 596 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: She knew all about it. She's works ten feet away 597 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: from the guy. I'm I don't even work there, and 598 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: I knew about it. You knew about it, didn't you? 599 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: I mean they knew about it. There were plenty of rumors, 600 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: but I just I, definitely I did not know about 601 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: the lock under the desk. I have to say that 602 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: was news to me. I didn't know about the bag 603 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: of sex toys, even though there's audio of it. First 604 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: of all, if you're Jeff Zucker and you didn't know 605 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: about this, you need to resign immediately. That means you 606 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: have the worst instincts for news. You're the world's worst reporter. 607 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: You two, Savannah Guthrie and Lesterhold. You couldn't spot news 608 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: going on four ft away from you. How can we 609 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: ever think you're a newsperson ever? Again, unbelievable. Well, we 610 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: got lots to get to uh in the next hour. 611 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: We got UH. We got Senator representatives Elden, we got 612 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: the Doug shown and more. Larry Cudlow is coming up. 613 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: It's Mark Simone. Follow me on Twitter, Mark Simone, n 614 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: y a Twitter Sean Hannity Show. He'll be back on Monday. 615 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: And don't forget Hannity tonight. Tax cuts have already passed 616 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: the House of Representatives, big Us, big ones. The eyes 617 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: of the world now turn to the United States Senate. 618 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: A successful vote in the Senate this week will bring 619 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: us one giant step closer to delivering an incredible victory 620 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: for the American people, massive tax cuts and reform. I 621 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: don't even mention the word reform because people don't know 622 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: exactly what we're talking about. You know, for years they 623 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: have not been able to get tax cuts, many many 624 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: years since Rakan. And the problem was they talked about 625 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: tax reform, not tax cuts. I said, don't call it reform, 626 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: call it tax cuts and reform. So every once in 627 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: a while we'll add the name reform. We're also going 628 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 1: to eliminate tax breaks and complex loopholes taken advantage of 629 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: by the wealthy. Who are they? I don't know. I 630 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: think my accounts are gone crazy right now. It's all right, Hey, 631 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: look I'm president. I don't care. I don't care anymore. 632 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: I don't care it some of my wealthy friends care me. 633 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: I don't think this is a higher calling. Do we agree? 634 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: As Hillary said, what difference does it make? Well, we'll 635 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: also cut taxes for the millions of small businesses that 636 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: file as individuals. And that's gonna come out of the hopper. 637 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: It's getting there, and it's it's going to be better 638 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: and better. We're reducing the tax burden on businesses of 639 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: all sizes and of every single kind. As a candidate, 640 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: I pledged to fight for American jobs. I think it's 641 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: possibly the number one reason I got elected. And I 642 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: think we've done a lot better at this point than 643 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: anybody ever even thought possible. Think of that, two million 644 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 1: jobs since the election. Two million more jobs in this 645 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: country since the election. Nobody expected that. Excuse me, I 646 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: didn't even expect that. But you know, you cut those regulations, 647 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: and you give people spirit and incentive, and when you 648 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: have the highest ratings in terms of confidence that the 649 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 1: country has had in many, many years, maybe ever things happened. 650 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,320 Speaker 1: The tax cut will mean more companies moving to America, 651 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: staying in America, and hiring American workers right here. So 652 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 1: that's so important. Right, Well, you've got a lot to 653 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 1: talk about tax cuts. Uh, let's go to a representative. 654 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: Lee's Eldon Great, congressman from New York, and he was 655 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: against the House tax bill and then Paul Ryan as 656 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: a result, canceled a fundraiser for him. Congressman, welcome to 657 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: the show. What the hell is going on down there? Congressman? 658 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 1: Oh boy, Well, you know the President gave a great speech. 659 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 1: And the American people when they went to vote in 660 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: November of sen and they elected President Trump, they were 661 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: they were thinking of the issues that might lead to 662 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 1: Kate Stanley's death. They want tax relief, They want to 663 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: take care of our military and our veterans. They wanted 664 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: the Obamacare repealed. They were fired up, and that's why 665 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 1: Donald Trump became President Donald Trump, and you know, we're 666 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: working hard on the tax reform issue. There's, uh, there 667 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,479 Speaker 1: are ways that we can make it better. By the way, 668 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: if we were having this conversation you know a year 669 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: or five years from now, ten years and now, we're 670 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: always gonna be talking about ways to make things better. 671 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: But you know, there's much needed tax relief on you 672 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: know for those businesses that that want to grow, that 673 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: want to create new jobs. There are businesses overseas that 674 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: that would absolutely love to come back here. So there 675 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: are some good things in the bill. Uh, you know, 676 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: there are some unique challenges that we're trying to to 677 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: work on addressing. Uh some you know geographically that it 678 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: created actually a tax increase on the personal side for 679 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: a state like New York. Yeah, not good. Uh, So 680 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, being being a New York congressman representing a 681 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: New York congressional district. I obviously am at doing doing 682 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 1: my job representing my constituents as we work through this process. Uh, 683 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: something that adds the challenges. You know, we happen to 684 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: have a governor like like Andrew Cuomo, who's you know, 685 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: he's already running for president. He basically should just step 686 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 1: down as governor of New York at this point if 687 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: that's what his ambitions are. But you know, you need 688 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: tax relief at you know, at all in the Albany level, 689 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: at the state capitals or city hall, and uh, you know, 690 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: and that and that's important. Tax Leaf has provided all 691 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: levels of government, but specifically you go ahead, Well but 692 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. I understand the thinking. 693 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: Why would you get rid of the deduction for state 694 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: and local tax Well, that way, the states like New 695 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: York are forced to lower their taxes. They won't be 696 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 1: able to charge crazy high taxes. The federal deduction gives 697 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: them a little air cover. So you take that away, 698 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: they'll have to bring down their taxes. But there'll be 699 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: a five year gap, ten year gap. And what do 700 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: people do in the meantime. Yeah, So in my district, 701 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 1: we don't vote for Andrew Cuomo for governor. He lost 702 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: an area like mine. My district went over fourteen and 703 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: a half points to Donald Trump. So you know, we 704 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: and obviously we don't like build the Blasio to be 705 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: the mayor of New York City. What I don't like 706 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: is the idea of getting my hard working constituents jammed 707 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: up in the crosshairs of you know, this effort. So 708 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: if you were going to make a change the local 709 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: tax deduction, it's been around for over a hundred years, 710 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: is one of the ways Abraham Lincoln help finance the 711 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: Civil War. Some people claim that they that they're subsidizing 712 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: New York, but you look at overall tax policy spending policy, 713 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: New York is by far one of the biggest net 714 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: contributors across the board to Washington. But putting that aside, 715 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: even if you're going to make a change to the 716 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: state local tax deduction, you don't put a bill on 717 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: the President's desk on Christmas and then tell Albany in 718 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: New York City that you need to fix this by 719 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 1: New Year's I mean, it's not just an unreasonable request, 720 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: it's actually an impossible request. And and Trump voters end 721 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: up seeing a tax increase because they get caught up 722 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: in across there's that, and that's that's avoidable. We could 723 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: fix it, and that's what I'm advocating for. Um. Yeah, 724 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 1: this whole thing is a mess. You know, we have 725 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: corporate tax it's triple tripple every other country in the world. 726 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: And I know the real reason we have it that way. 727 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: Every company has to go to Congress with lobbyists and 728 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: buy every break, every carve out every loophole. But why 729 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: can't everybody in Congress just get together and say, you 730 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: know what, let's lower the corporate text to what it 731 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: is everywhere else in the world. But that can't be 732 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: done Kennett, Well, you you have to make our corporate 733 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,319 Speaker 1: tax rate more competitive. And these companies are becoming more 734 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: global and more mobile. Uh so if we you know, 735 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,680 Speaker 1: I had one company that was in my district. They 736 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: wanted build hundreds of thousands of square feet. They calculate 737 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,920 Speaker 1: their effective tax rate of doing that project in my 738 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 1: district to be in the low fifties. If they did 739 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,959 Speaker 1: the project overseas, Uh, they were going to be paying 740 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: in the teams. So they moved to that other country. 741 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: And you have not just all of the jobs to 742 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: build the hundreds of thousands of square feet, but you 743 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: have all the long term jobs to the people who 744 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: are going to show up there every day to work. 745 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: So now it's it's gone. But a lot of these 746 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 1: companies want to come back here, and in doing so, 747 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,800 Speaker 1: in improving the corporate tax rate and becoming more competitive 748 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: in the global economy, you're increasing GDP, consumer spending will 749 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: go up, wage growth, more jobs, it's all good. People's 750 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,800 Speaker 1: pensions are going up, they're saving more for retirement. We 751 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 1: also have to improve the issue as it relates to 752 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: the pass through to make sure that that people aren't 753 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: being penalized because they're in you know, personal service occupation, 754 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 1: or they're being penalized because they're a small business. So 755 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm just somebody who's always advocating for trying to make 756 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: things better, and you know, I have no apologies or 757 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 1: regrets about that. Yeah, what's gonna happen next? Where do 758 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: you do you think we'll end up? Well, it seems 759 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: like the Senate has the votes to pass the bill, 760 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: so we'll go to conference committee. I believe that there's 761 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: a vote scheduled in the House for Monday evening, the 762 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 1: bill go to Conference committee, and then you'll you have 763 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: to hit agreement between the House and the Senate, and 764 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: if any change is made as is anticipated at a 765 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: conference committee, each chamber would have to repass it in 766 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: order to send it to the President's desk. And the 767 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: timeline that the House and the Senate is working off 768 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 1: of is trying to get a bill to the President's 769 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: desk by Christmas. Yeah, well, we'll see. But if the 770 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: Senate has the votes to pass the bill the Senate 771 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: to a conference the beginning next week, that's a that 772 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: still is a doable timeline, and hopefully we can continue 773 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: to at conference committee be able to work out some 774 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: of the remaining issues. And there are good things in 775 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: you know, a House bill that might not be in 776 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 1: a Center bill, or good things in a Center bill 777 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: that may not be in a House bill. So part 778 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: of that process is trying to get the best of 779 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: both bills into that final product. Because you flushed out 780 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: some issues in in one chamber but not the other. 781 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: We all right, Congressman Lee's Eldon, good work down there 782 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: in Washington. Keep it up. I know it's not easy, 783 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: but keep up the good work for New York. All right, 784 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. It's tough down there. It's 785 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: very tough, and uh you know sometimes well, first of all, 786 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: in every case where we've cut taxes, every time we've 787 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 1: cut taxes, revenue goes up. It always goes up. But 788 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: you see these uh uh CBO different organizations saying, well, 789 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: this will bring down the revenue. It never happens. But 790 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: let's say it did bring down the revenue. So what 791 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: that's great. Shrink the government a little less revenue. Good, 792 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 1: you have to cut the size of government, but it 793 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: always increases revenue. We'll take some calls in a minute. 794 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: One one Shawn is the number. We'll get to Matt Lower, 795 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:24,360 Speaker 1: we'll get to uh uh al Franken uh lots to 796 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: talk about, and we'll take your calls. Eight nine one Shawn, 797 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: it's the number. Mark Simone here for Sean. I get 798 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 1: Hannity tonight at nine on the Fox News Channel and 799 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: Sean will be back on Monday. Welcome back. It's the 800 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,360 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. Mark Simone here for Sewan. One hundred 801 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: nine for one Shaan is the number. One nine f 802 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: one Sean. So the President earlier saying, uh, did they 803 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 1: actually say that Rex Tillerson will stay. Yeah, I think 804 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 1: he actually came out and said that Rex Tillerson will stay. 805 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: But that can change at any time. Uh, they're calling 806 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: it rexit, rex Tillerson leaving at some point. One good 807 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: thing he's done at the State Department is and remember 808 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: he's a CEO, a lot of management experience. You know, 809 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: when they keep telling you that, uh, the president hasn't 810 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: filled all these jobs. There's two thousand jobs still not 811 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: filled in the administrator, good, don't fill them. You've got 812 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,760 Speaker 1: you've got too many people in the government. Each department, 813 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: State department, you've got six thousand people. Let's say it 814 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 1: was only two thousand. It's just fine. You know what 815 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 1: did you'd probably be eight hundred. But one thing Tillerson 816 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: has accomplished over there is, uh is just getting rid 817 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: of a lot of people. There's layers of bureaucracy you 818 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: don't need, just waste expense. It just slows the whole 819 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: thing down, streamlining these organizations. That's one thing you can 820 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 1: get when you have a businessman and a CEO in there. 821 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: So whatever else you think of Tillerson, apparently it's been 822 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 1: very good at cutting the fat and the bloat and 823 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 1: the waste over at the State Department. UM. Then you 824 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: get some of these people to make these comments, you know, 825 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,320 Speaker 1: the presidents of moron. The President's dumb, the McMaster was 826 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 1: reported to have said that. But when you actually talk 827 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: to people there, apparently the problem is. One thing about 828 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump smart, super smart. He's like nine steps ahead 829 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 1: of you in a conversation. I've been talking him for 830 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: thirty years, and one thing I've always learned, don't worry 831 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,399 Speaker 1: about how you phrase it or what this guy looks 832 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 1: at you. With sonar and radar, he can he can 833 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,879 Speaker 1: see everything you're saying. And McMaster is one of those 834 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: guys if you ask him a question, wants to come 835 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: in and give you a forty minute briefing with graphs 836 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: and charts and slides. And apparently every time he does that, 837 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: the presidents just get to the point just tell me, 838 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:32,359 Speaker 1: oh no wait, let me go through this step by 839 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: just tell me I gotta go through this step. But 840 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: so he just couldn't take these. You know, he asked 841 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 1: him what time it is? You got a forty minute 842 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: history of the watch and everything. So the speeding up 843 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,440 Speaker 1: of McMaster caused the resentment and that's why McMasters sometimes 844 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: would shoot his mouth off here and there. Let's take 845 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: a call or two. Let's go to uh, let's go 846 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 1: to h Larry in Kentucky. Larry, how you doing. Welcome 847 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: to Sean Hannity Show, Mark, Thanks for taking my call. 848 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 1: Thanks for calling. Yes, I was just curious. We've got 849 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: General Flynn here with the line of the FBI. I 850 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: must be missing something. Why is Hillary noticing the same 851 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 1: charges for the line of FB. Well, because the whole 852 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 1: process was rigged for Hillary. Now the way, oh no, 853 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, it really was. The way you get 854 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: caught online. They bring in for a long, late, lengthy interview. 855 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 1: They interrogate you for a couple of hours, then they 856 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: come back in a couple of weeks, they interrogate you 857 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: again for a couple of hours, and sometimes they come 858 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,839 Speaker 1: back a third time and then carry a terrogag you again. 859 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: Then they carefully compare the transcripts to see for if 860 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: there's any discrepancies. That's how it's always done. Now you'll 861 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: notice in the case of Hillary, that's not how it 862 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 1: was done. There was only one investigation and one interrogation, 863 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 1: just one, and no transcript was made, so you couldn't 864 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,800 Speaker 1: possibly catch you in a lie because you had no 865 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: record of the interrogation that was done deliberately. I'm not 866 00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: saying was Comy's idea. It could have been Comy's idea, 867 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: or he might have been ordered to do that by 868 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,760 Speaker 1: Loretta Lynch, or it might have come right from the President. 869 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: But it was fixed, it was rigged. It's the only 870 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 1: time in history they didn't make a transcript of the interrogation, 871 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 1: and one of the very few times ever, certainly the 872 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 1: only time in an important interrogation where they didn't come 873 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: back into a second round so they could compare things. 874 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: Let's go to Sharon in Mississippi. Sharon, Welcome to John 875 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: Hannity's show. Hi, Mark Um, I'd like to know what 876 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: you think about the fact that I've got an idea 877 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,800 Speaker 1: that Ummulart's not going after the president over collusion with Russia. 878 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: I think he's going after him on obstruction of justice. 879 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 1: Like Comy laid out the case when he testified, he 880 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,399 Speaker 1: said the President asked him do you like your job? 881 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 1: Do you want to keep? And later on he said 882 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,279 Speaker 1: drop the Flynn thing. Well, he didn't say that, but 883 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 1: I understand what he said. You're making a very good 884 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: point there, Sharon. Now that's true. There is no collusion, 885 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: and Mueller would know that by now after you're investiging. 886 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,160 Speaker 1: There's no collusion. So that's all he could hope for 887 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: a substruction of justice. He'll go after. What the President 888 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: said to Coomy was what were the exact words, It was, 889 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 1: can't you see your way clear? To you know? Going 890 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: easy on? But it sounded to me like in that 891 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: conversation all he was doing was asking for mercy for 892 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: a war hero, a general, a military guy. That that 893 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 1: sounds like that's all it was. And as far as 894 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: Comy being fired you could get in fact, it's just 895 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: go on YouTube and you'll see it. There's endless video 896 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,240 Speaker 1: of every major Democrat just before that demanding that Comy 897 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,760 Speaker 1: be fired. So it was universal that Comy should be fired. 898 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 1: Nothing nothing funny going on there, Uh, Comy Muller of 899 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: course close friends. Muller should actually accuse himself from this, 900 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,320 Speaker 1: but uh, and they have a history of blunders, but 901 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: which we'll get to a little later on. Doug shown 902 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,240 Speaker 1: will be with us in a moment that should be interesting. 903 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 1: It's Mark Simone here for Sean follow me on Twitter, 904 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 1: Mark Simone and why at Twitter or Instagram, all of that, 905 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 1: and of course Hannity dot Com and Hannity every night 906 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: at nine on the Fox News Channel. I hope you 907 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 1: can see your way clear to letting this go, to 908 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 1: letting Flynn go. That's the exact quote. You know, we 909 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: want to get this job done, but we want to 910 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 1: be complete. And again one more, you know that we've 911 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: seen some uh and obviously including the President who said, hey, 912 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 1: you know nothing here, let's try to shut this down. 913 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody that's following this story now 914 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: in the light of another admission of guilt coming from 915 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,280 Speaker 1: a senior Trump official, this time the National Security Advisor, 916 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 1: that we don't owe the American public to follow through 917 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,640 Speaker 1: on this investigation until we get all the facts out. 918 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: Previously tell you about this conversations, I am the focus 919 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: is are we going to be able to do this 920 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: investigation in a way where we get access to all 921 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,400 Speaker 1: the witnesses. We are going to do that, and I 922 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 1: think again I was I was proud of what the 923 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 1: chairman said that in his in the New York Time 924 00:50:53,640 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: story that he acknowledge that the just stay away from 925 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,839 Speaker 1: the White Hospital what is what's what's the real issue 926 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: here is You've got this repeated pattern of the President 927 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:14,279 Speaker 1: United States who's trying desperately to stop this investigation. Cost 928 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: Jim Comey his job because he wouldn't stop the investigation. 929 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 1: He intervened with senators, intervened with other senior intelligence officials. Uh. 930 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 1: I think the American people and a lot of us 931 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 1: asked me, why is he so desperate to have this 932 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,800 Speaker 1: investigation stopped, particularly as we see more and more people 933 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: either plead guilty or come forward under indictment. Hey, we 934 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 1: all love Doug Showing, the great political strategist and Fox 935 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: News analyst and author. You know, he wrote a great 936 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 1: book called Putin's master Plan about a year ago. He's 937 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: got a new book called Putin on the March, and 938 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 1: he's always great to talk to, Doug Showing. How you doing. 939 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm doing good, Mark. I can't thank you enough for 940 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,919 Speaker 1: that very kind of air. Dutchy, Well, this is quite 941 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 1: a book now. Listen, Putin is supposed to be the 942 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 1: most brilliant mastermind in the world, and we just went 943 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 1: through eight years of President Obama, who didn't look like 944 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 1: the most brilliant mastermind in the world. They looked like 945 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 1: the most disengaged, laid back American president when it came 946 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 1: to foreign policy. Uh. And Trump has a history of 947 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: tangling with every kind of treacherous character in his business career. Uh. 948 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: Do you think he's on the right track at least 949 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: trying to establish more of a relationship with Putin? No, 950 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 1: I don't. Frankly. I think he's on the right track 951 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 1: with Isis. I think he's on the right track with 952 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 1: North Korea, with Iran. I think we have to get tough, 953 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 1: but I don't think Putin understands anything other than strength. 954 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: And I think that the real point of the Russian 955 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,840 Speaker 1: incursion into our election, and I say this in Putin 956 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,800 Speaker 1: on the March, the real point of the incursion was 957 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,440 Speaker 1: to divide America, which he has appeared to do. And 958 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,879 Speaker 1: with the SoundBite you just played, with all the um 959 00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: indictments and the guilty pleae book today and earlier, I 960 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 1: think the Russians have managed to play us again. We're 961 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 1: not only divided, but we've had numerous criminal charges and 962 00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: the president is at the very least in arms arm's way. 963 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 1: All right, But if you want to really get tough 964 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:17,919 Speaker 1: with somebody, and the president would know this, having dealt 965 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: with the most treacherous New York characters. If you really 966 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,800 Speaker 1: get tough with somebody, it's not about huffing and puffing 967 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: and threatening. It's like the Godfather sometimes, you know, keep 968 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,799 Speaker 1: your enemies closer. You know that kind of a thing. 969 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: Doesn't look that way to me. Looks to me like 970 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 1: Putin has a strategy. As I say, in Putin on 971 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: the March, he has a strategy. He's succeeded in the 972 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:50,319 Speaker 1: Middle East with Syria, he's selling arms to Egypt. Now, 973 00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: he is negotiating on oil prices with the Saudis. He's 974 00:53:55,680 --> 00:54:00,800 Speaker 1: helped the North Koreans, he certainly has facilitated Theran, and 975 00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: he's trying to destabilize Europe. I give you know, game set, 976 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,760 Speaker 1: not matching point, but game and set the Vladimir Putin, 977 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: and I would say, if it's Putin on the March, 978 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 1: it's it's Trump on the ropes. But for instance, how much, 979 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 1: how how vulnerable is the Putin uh to the oil market. 980 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,240 Speaker 1: How much of the Russian economy is depending on oil 981 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: right now? Good? But with oil prices coming back now 982 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 1: and with them trying to reduce supply through OPEC, I 983 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: think he's in a lot better shape than he was 984 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Yeah, and uh, with what's 985 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,799 Speaker 1: going on in Saudi Arabia now this purge is take 986 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 1: over this how is that going to affect the oil situation? Well, 987 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 1: I I think we don't know yet. I mean, we 988 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 1: have to see what the OPEC meaning. We have to 989 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 1: see how they react. I mean, I think they made 990 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: a mistake a couple of years ago from their point 991 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 1: of view, not restricting production. We will see going forward 992 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,280 Speaker 1: if the Russians and the Saudis and the other members 993 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 1: of OPEC uh do what I think is reasonable for 994 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 1: them to do under the circumstances we faced. Well, it's 995 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,799 Speaker 1: a great book by Doug Shown. It's Putin on the March. 996 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 1: Important book to read. But yeah, let's go back to 997 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,319 Speaker 1: the election. Vladimir Putin, why on earth would he want 998 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump as president? Hillary would have been perfect for him. 999 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 1: He's able to do whatever he wants to with her 1000 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,239 Speaker 1: a secretary of State. She's a pay for play politician. 1001 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 1: You can usually buy whatever you need from her. Wouldn't 1002 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 1: that be the perfect president for him? Well? I think 1003 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 1: he felt that because of Trump's conciliatory approach towards Russia, 1004 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,759 Speaker 1: he'd be better, But I think the larger purpose was 1005 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:44,879 Speaker 1: to put Americans against Americans, and candidly, Mark, I think 1006 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: he has succeeded. You look at these investigations and whether 1007 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: you think they're warrant it or not, it's sure the 1008 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 1: case that we've spent an inordinate amount of time on 1009 00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:00,080 Speaker 1: Russian investigations and very little time on strategy. These to 1010 00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:05,280 Speaker 1: be Russia, uh and the havoc they've caused in the world. Okay, 1011 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 1: but first, after a year, you've got absolutely no evidence 1012 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: of any collusion. You've got this little nitpicky stuff. Hold on, wait, 1013 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,239 Speaker 1: you got General Flynn trying to make contact, which would 1014 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: prove there was no collusion up until that point. I 1015 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 1: am not ready to say that now. I believe that 1016 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 1: General Flynn, through what he has pled guilty to and 1017 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:34,239 Speaker 1: what he has uh certainly suggested, raises questions about whether 1018 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 1: there has been collusion. I don't think you can make 1019 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 1: the blanket statement now, and I think that this has 1020 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 1: has more chapters uh to go, this investigation, and this 1021 00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: was a giant step of an adverse nation nature against 1022 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 1: the Trump administration and the president personally. But Doug shown. 1023 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: You're in old Washington hand. You know, if they found anything, 1024 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 1: if there was any real, real evidence of anything, Mueller 1025 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 1: wouldn't be doing all this little nitpicking nonsense getting me 1026 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,440 Speaker 1: on a call this. Look, I go where the facts are. 1027 00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 1: I don't believe this is nit picking. I think they 1028 00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,240 Speaker 1: have the only guy who can give them, the President, 1029 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: And I think there is a tantalizing suggestion you're right, 1030 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:22,760 Speaker 1: not evidence yet, but a suggestion that the President may 1031 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 1: well have been complicit with whatever General Flynn was doing. Well, apparently, 1032 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,000 Speaker 1: only all General flun is going to say is that 1033 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 1: the president directed him to make contact with Russia, which 1034 00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,080 Speaker 1: would indicate there was no contact with Russia unto that point. 1035 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: And the president points out, I asked him to make 1036 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 1: contact with the thirty five countries. And maybe you're not 1037 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 1: supposed to do that till you're technically president, but it's 1038 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,919 Speaker 1: done all the time by a president elect. Well, let's 1039 00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: let's let's wait and see. I'm not ready based on 1040 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 1: what happened today to say no collusion. Certainly, what happened 1041 00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: about the sanctions before UH in December of the conversations 1042 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,360 Speaker 1: that Trump had obviously that Flynn had with Kisley are 1043 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 1: the issue of what Jared Kushner may or may not 1044 00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 1: have done. Mark, I think we're in chopp ecs for 1045 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 1: the president. H He hasn't his boat hasn't capsized yet. 1046 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 1: But this is not a sea of calm. I know. 1047 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 1: But you're talking about logan act of violation of law 1048 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 1: from seventeen hundred that's never been used on anybody. Uh. 1049 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 1: That doesn't indicate big blockbuster bombshells coming. As I said, 1050 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was in a better position yesterday than he 1051 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 1: is today. I think you'd agree with that. I'll give 1052 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 1: you that. That looks a little messy. Uh. Well, in 1053 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,919 Speaker 1: the end, what would Putin want more territory, more money. 1054 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 1: He wants more territory, more influence, and most of all 1055 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,959 Speaker 1: to reconstruct the Russian Empire, which is all our part 1056 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 1: of the former Selvi Union. Would you say Putin is 1057 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 1: the wealthiest man on earth? It's certainly seems that way 1058 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: today from everything I read. I mean, I know I 1059 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,800 Speaker 1: don't have those kind of lofty networks, but let's just 1060 00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 1: say he's almost certainly in the billions, not millions. Oh, 1061 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 1: I think they say it's like a yeah, I'm downplaying it, 1062 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 1: but yes, that's the end that those are the reports, 1063 00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 1: and I would I would suspect he's not a poor man. Yeah. Uh. 1064 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 1: And and if let's say something that happen to Putin, 1065 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,320 Speaker 1: if Putin was suddenly going, who else is there in 1066 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: the Russian government? There are other forces looking to rise up. Yeah, 1067 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 1: it's a very good question. I don't know who would emerge, 1068 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 1: but I do believe it would not be a reformer. 1069 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: I believe the Putin model has been a successful one 1070 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 1: in the context of Russian politics, and I don't think 1071 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 1: that necessarily removing Vladimir Putin is going to change the 1072 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 1: approach of the Russian Federation and its government and the 1073 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: way it works now in the Russian world. There there's 1074 00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 1: no opposition, and if there is, they're keeping that very quiet. No, 1075 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 1: no opposition. But he there's no real opposition. He will 1076 01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 1: be re elected to another term. I think it's in April. Yeah. Well, 1077 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 1: it's a great book. It's Putin on the March. You 1078 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 1: gotta get this book by by Doug Shan and uh read, 1079 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, nothing better on Putin on Russia. And it's 1080 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 1: a great book and great work has always Doug shown 1081 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for being with Mark thank you for the very 1082 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 1: kind words now at always, thank you so much. All right, 1083 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: take care, Uh great stuff, and uh we got lots 1084 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 1: of talk about we'll get to Matt Lower and more 1085 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 1: coming up in al Franken. Hey, whatever happened to John Conyers, 1086 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 1: who's gonna have a press conference? But I don't know. 1087 01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,960 Speaker 1: Maybe he's busy at the moment with something. Who knows, 1088 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,200 Speaker 1: maybe something came up. I don't know, but we'll see 1089 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 1: if it it happens, we'll bring it to you live. 1090 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 1: It's Mark Simone here for Sean Hannity. We'll take some 1091 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 1: calls him. Minute one eight one. Sean is the number 1092 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:57,160 Speaker 1: nine for one Sean. Don't forget Hannity tonight at nine 1093 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 1: o'clock on the Fox News Channel. Go back. It's Mark 1094 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 1: Simone here for Sean Hannity, Uh, Matt Lower, Charlie Rose, 1095 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein, you know, forget. It goes back to Billy Bush, 1096 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 1: the famous Billy Bush tape that came out and then 1097 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,800 Speaker 1: at some point NBC how to get rid of Billy Bush. 1098 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 1: And people always say the last few days, Ken, Matt 1099 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 1: Lower ever come back, Ken Charlie Rose ever come back? Well, 1100 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,560 Speaker 1: Billy Bush is coming back. Apparently, Uh, he thinks it's 1101 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,240 Speaker 1: time to come out of hiding. He will make his 1102 01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:32,960 Speaker 1: first appearance where else The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. Obviously, 1103 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,720 Speaker 1: the Colbert people want him to say something bad about 1104 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,920 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. It's a it's called The Late Show with 1105 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,600 Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert, but it's been renamed The Hate Show with 1106 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert. It's just a hate Trump Show for a 1107 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 1: whole hour. Obviously, Uh, there's some something to that. That's 1108 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 1: why Billy Bush has chosen this outlet. So I think 1109 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 1: that's what he's gonna do. It's gonna be Trump bashing. 1110 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 1: He sees that as his ticket to coming back to 1111 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,720 Speaker 1: being accepted by people. As long as you're a Trump hater, 1112 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 1: this crowd will embrace you no matter what else. You know, 1113 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,400 Speaker 1: you look back to that Billy Bush tape and you say, 1114 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,760 Speaker 1: the things Trump said sounded bad, but you'll all the 1115 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 1: first thing I noticed, one thing nobody's really zeroing in 1116 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,000 Speaker 1: on the first half of the conversation is missing. NBC 1117 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,880 Speaker 1: dropped the first part of the conversation and you only 1118 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 1: hear where Trump comes in. Well, obviously you can tell 1119 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,800 Speaker 1: from Trump's conversation that Billy Bush had been telling him 1120 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 1: quite a few stories. I think that's what happened there, 1121 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 1: because I've never heard Trump talk like that. But I 1122 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 1: think Billy Bush was telling him some amazing stories, and 1123 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 1: the old veteran there trying to play can you top 1124 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 1: this with him, and just started embellishing and exaggerating. But 1125 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 1: we need to hear the first part of that conversation 1126 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:47,360 Speaker 1: conveniently edited out. I am sure Colbert will not ask 1127 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: him what were you saying just before that? I guarantee 1128 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,040 Speaker 1: a Colbert won't even bring it up. Ken Matt lowerd 1129 01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,560 Speaker 1: ever come back? He can. Why do you say that, 1130 01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 1: I don't think you can come back? Yeah, because he's 1131 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 1: a demick out and Democrats are always welcomed back into 1132 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,640 Speaker 1: the fold and forgiven for their transgressions. I don't know 1133 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 1: if you read some of those stories. I mean, it's 1134 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 1: one of them that appears to me to be rape 1135 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 1: in his office. He has a button under the desk 1136 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 1: that can lock the door. And I won't even tell it, 1137 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,919 Speaker 1: but it's a graphics story. It appears to be rape. 1138 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 1: She passed out in the middle of it, and the 1139 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 1: show a nice guy he is. In the story, it says, uh, 1140 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 1: he didn't told his assistance. She's passed out on the 1141 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 1: floor to take her to a nurse, not even a doctor, 1142 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,440 Speaker 1: just a nurse. Uh. I don't know. When you read 1143 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,919 Speaker 1: something like that, you can't come back from. But see, 1144 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,960 Speaker 1: this is what I don't understand. So the woman has 1145 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,200 Speaker 1: taken to the nurse, and the nurse doesn't ask questions 1146 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 1: like what happened? What's about? But he knew At NBC. 1147 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 1: I guarantee you the nurse reported it. Everybody seems so 1148 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:52,800 Speaker 1: odd to me. I mean, there are reports of this, 1149 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,040 Speaker 1: and there are reports taken to corporate headquarters, and executives 1150 01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: knew about this and they still did nothing. That's that's 1151 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 1: totally complicit. Everybody's complicit. All those people at NBC, all 1152 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 1: those management people knew. You see the statement, it was 1153 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 1: very carefully worded. Nobody in current management knew. Hey, they 1154 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:13,240 Speaker 1: all knew. Jeff Zucker, who's now at the CNN, what's 1155 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,000 Speaker 1: his name, Cappus, all these guys I heard about it. 1156 01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 1: I guarantee you they heard about it. And that's going 1157 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 1: to come out. I hear there's another dozen matt Lower 1158 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,920 Speaker 1: women that The New York Times is now checking their stories, 1159 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 1: and they'll be coming out there's a lot more Frankin 1160 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 1: coming out. Al Franken, there's more people coming. Look at 1161 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,040 Speaker 1: his last two accusers. One's a legislator, one's a veteran. 1162 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 1: These are very credible people. You know. We had a 1163 01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 1: caller earlier and he dropped off, but he made a 1164 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 1: really good point and he said, you know this is 1165 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,040 Speaker 1: this is a lot more widespread than we think. And 1166 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean And he said, well, 1167 01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 1: he said, you think that this is bad. What's happening 1168 01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 1: in politics if they ever uncover who exactly got some 1169 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 1: money for their constituents, who use money from the slush fund, 1170 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:52,880 Speaker 1: who paid off food. But wait till it gets still 1171 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,360 Speaker 1: college campuses. We find out about professors and I was like, 1172 01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 1: oh man, that's a really good point. Professors, more liberals. 1173 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,800 Speaker 1: And wait till it gets to the tech industry. Wait 1174 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 1: till it gets to Silicon Valley or Silicon Alley here 1175 01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 1: in New York where all the tech companies are. It's 1176 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,760 Speaker 1: gonna keep growing and growing. Hey, coming up in the 1177 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 1: next hour, Larry Cudlow will be here, the one of 1178 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,560 Speaker 1: the geniuses when it comes to the economy, and we'll 1179 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,040 Speaker 1: talk about the tax plan and Jess Guitarlof will be 1180 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 1: with us and more. It's Mark Simone here for Sean. 1181 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 1: He'll be back on Monday. Follow me on Twitter, Mark 1182 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,480 Speaker 1: Simone and Wyatt Twitter or Mark Simone and y At 1183 01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,439 Speaker 1: at Instagram. Don't forget Hannity tonight on the Fox News 1184 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,800 Speaker 1: channel just moments ago and they seen his chairman Andy 1185 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:38,480 Speaker 1: Lack sent the following note to our organization, Dear colleagues, 1186 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,200 Speaker 1: On Monday night, we received a detailed complaint from a 1187 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:45,400 Speaker 1: colleague about inappropriate sexual behavior in the workplace by Matt Lower. 1188 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 1: It represented, after serious review, a clear violation of our 1189 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 1: company's standards. As a result, we have decided to terminate 1190 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,000 Speaker 1: his employment. While it is the first complaint about his 1191 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,400 Speaker 1: behavior in the over twenty years he has been at 1192 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,800 Speaker 1: NBC News, we were also presented with reason to believe 1193 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 1: this may not have been an isolated incident. Our highest 1194 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,080 Speaker 1: priority is to create a workplace environment where everyone feels 1195 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 1: safe and protected, and to ensure that any actions that 1196 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 1: run counter to our core values are met with consequences, 1197 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,960 Speaker 1: no matter who the offender. We are deeply saddened by 1198 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,320 Speaker 1: this turn of events, but we will face it together 1199 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 1: as a news organization and do it and as transparent 1200 01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 1: a manner as we can. That is the statement from 1201 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,560 Speaker 1: our chairman, Andy Lack. And we just learned this moments ago, 1202 01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,240 Speaker 1: just this morning. As I'm sure you can imagine, we 1203 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 1: are devastated and we are still processing all of this. 1204 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,240 Speaker 1: And I will tell you right now, we do not 1205 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,640 Speaker 1: know more than what I just shared with you, but 1206 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 1: we will be covering this story as reporters. As journalists. 1207 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure we will be learning more details in the 1208 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 1: hours and days to come, and we promise we will 1209 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:56,040 Speaker 1: share that with you and hold to I mean, you know, 1210 01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 1: for the moment, all we can say is that we 1211 01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,480 Speaker 1: are heartbroken. I'm heart again for Matt. He is my dear, 1212 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:03,920 Speaker 1: dear friend and my partner, and he is beloved by 1213 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 1: many many people here. And I'm heartbroken for the brave 1214 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 1: colleague who came forward to tell her story and any 1215 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 1: other women who have their own stories to tell. And 1216 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 1: we are grappling with a dilemma that so many people 1217 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,840 Speaker 1: have faced these past few weeks. How do you reconcile 1218 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:24,360 Speaker 1: your love for someone with the revelation that they have 1219 01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,360 Speaker 1: behaved badly? And I don't know the answer to that, 1220 01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 1: but I do know that this reckoning that so many 1221 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:35,080 Speaker 1: organizations have been going through is important. It's long overdue, 1222 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,920 Speaker 1: and it must result in workplaces where all women, all 1223 01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:43,360 Speaker 1: people feel safe and respected. As painful as it is, 1224 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:48,000 Speaker 1: this moment in our culture and this change had to happen. Yeah, 1225 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,800 Speaker 1: it did. This is a very tough morning for both 1226 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 1: of us. Um I've known Matt for fifteen years and 1227 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,280 Speaker 1: I've loved him as a friend and as a colleague. 1228 01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:58,240 Speaker 1: And again, just like you were saying, Savannah, it's hard 1229 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 1: to reconcile what we are hearing with the man who 1230 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 1: we know, who walks in this building every single day. 1231 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 1: We were both woken up with the news kind of 1232 01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 1: pre dawn, and we're trying to process it and trying 1233 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,080 Speaker 1: to make sense of it, and it'll take some time 1234 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 1: for that. We're processing it with all of you at home, 1235 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:20,160 Speaker 1: and we promised to be transparent and be straightforlwill and 1236 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,400 Speaker 1: continue this important conversation. So this morning, it is a 1237 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 1: difficult morning here again because our top story is once 1238 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 1: again about our former colleague, Matt Lour And in fact, 1239 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 1: we just moments ago received a statement from Matt, and 1240 01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 1: let me read it to you. There are no words 1241 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:37,519 Speaker 1: to express my sorrow and regret for the pain I 1242 01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,639 Speaker 1: have caused others by words and actions. To the people 1243 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,320 Speaker 1: I have hurt, I am truly sorry. As I am 1244 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,960 Speaker 1: writing this, I realized the depth of the damage and 1245 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,120 Speaker 1: disappointment I have left behind at home and at NBC. 1246 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,000 Speaker 1: Some of what is being said about me is untrue 1247 01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,879 Speaker 1: or mischaracterized, but there is enough truth in these stories 1248 01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 1: to make me feel embarrassed and ashamed. I regret that 1249 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,599 Speaker 1: my shame is now shared by the people I cherish dearly. 1250 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:05,479 Speaker 1: Repairing the damage will take a lot of time and 1251 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:08,920 Speaker 1: soul searching, and I'm committed to beginning that effort. It 1252 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,720 Speaker 1: is now my full time job. The last two days 1253 01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 1: have forced me to take a very hard look at 1254 01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,799 Speaker 1: my own troubling flaws. It's been humbling. I am blessed 1255 01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 1: to be surrounded by people I love. I thank them 1256 01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 1: for their patients and grace. This just in Savannah Guthrie 1257 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:29,880 Speaker 1: has been nominated for Best Actress. Pretending she didn't know, 1258 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,559 Speaker 1: but just the whole time I'm processing it, I knew 1259 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,479 Speaker 1: about it. I don't even work there. She's two feet away. 1260 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,000 Speaker 1: Believe me, they all knew about it. Every one of 1261 01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,439 Speaker 1: them knew about it top the bottom at NBC. Anyway, 1262 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,640 Speaker 1: let's get to h. Jessica Tarloff is the head of 1263 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 1: research at Bustle, and she's an excellent Fox News contributor 1264 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,920 Speaker 1: and always a great guest. Jessica, how you doing. I'm good? 1265 01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:53,720 Speaker 1: How are you? Thanks for having me. I don't know 1266 01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,280 Speaker 1: how I am. I'm processing it. Give me a minute. Now, 1267 01:09:57,320 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 1: I'll give you a minute. Everybody knew about Matt Lauer. There, 1268 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,679 Speaker 1: you know. It's I have to say that this entire saga, 1269 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,840 Speaker 1: which has been heart wrenching on a number of levels 1270 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,960 Speaker 1: for the women at it seems every organization that have 1271 01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,599 Speaker 1: suffered at the hands of various powerful men, uh run 1272 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,840 Speaker 1: amuck has been a lesson to me in what I 1273 01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,080 Speaker 1: thought I knew and what I didn't know. And there's 1274 01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,880 Speaker 1: so many open secret quote open secrets that I didn't know, Like, 1275 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 1: for instance, I didn't know about Charlie Rose. I had 1276 01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:32,240 Speaker 1: heard about Matt Lower. Oh you're talking. You heard about it, 1277 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,799 Speaker 1: and Savannah Guthrie didn't. Well, he had a very famous affair, 1278 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,080 Speaker 1: right was Natalie Morales. And it was funny. I was 1279 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:42,560 Speaker 1: talking to the friend yesterday about when the time transformed 1280 01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,800 Speaker 1: past a morality clause having to do with infidelity, because 1281 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,360 Speaker 1: that's what it was for in the first place. Right 1282 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 1: that there was supposed to be harassment was never to 1283 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,439 Speaker 1: be tolerated, but there used to be some standards as 1284 01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,960 Speaker 1: to how you would conduct yourself. Now, if you're having affairs, 1285 01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,519 Speaker 1: that's apparently not a big deal at all for an 1286 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,800 Speaker 1: organist station. And I guess times change and we moved 1287 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:06,000 Speaker 1: over to you know, when you're actually assaulting people. Um, 1288 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,040 Speaker 1: but Matt Lower was a bit of a known scoundrel. Yeah, 1289 01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,760 Speaker 1: and it turned out well, uh, I think this will 1290 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,200 Speaker 1: come out in more detail, but there's many more women 1291 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,080 Speaker 1: coming out, and it will come out that a lot 1292 01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,360 Speaker 1: of this was reported to NBC management through the years, 1293 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,280 Speaker 1: that there's been a number of times they were warned 1294 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:27,800 Speaker 1: about it and they all look the other way. Uh So, well, 1295 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,639 Speaker 1: that was the interesting part of Andy lack Steven which said, 1296 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, the current administration never received any complaints. And 1297 01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that that's true anyway, but I definitely 1298 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,519 Speaker 1: zeroed in on that to put some time on it 1299 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,519 Speaker 1: that maybe he could then blame his predecessor for having 1300 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,680 Speaker 1: ignored whatever complaints came forward. But I totally agree with you, 1301 01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,599 Speaker 1: it looks like it's going to be um many many 1302 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:58,920 Speaker 1: women uh coming forward, absolute mess. Uh. Hey, it started 1303 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,240 Speaker 1: with some conservatives, but then if you take the last 1304 01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:06,920 Speaker 1: twenty cases, it's liberals. Is this just because it's mostly 1305 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,560 Speaker 1: in show business or broadcasting where you tend to have 1306 01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:14,680 Speaker 1: mostly liberals. Yeah, I think so. I think you're definitely right. 1307 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:18,599 Speaker 1: And I mean we've certainly had a bad few weeks 1308 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 1: in terms of that, and I think it is a 1309 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,519 Speaker 1: more difficult position to be. And I mean everyone is 1310 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,439 Speaker 1: ashamed of this kind of behavior. But then when you're 1311 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,519 Speaker 1: a prominent member of a political party that champions itself 1312 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,960 Speaker 1: as the party of women, that you know, we have 1313 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,720 Speaker 1: policies that advocate better for women. I believe that. I 1314 01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,240 Speaker 1: think that our policies would make a woman's life better 1315 01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 1: in America than conservative policies. You definitely get that extra 1316 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 1: added bonus of hypocrisy to the argument. Hey, all these 1317 01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:49,400 Speaker 1: these Charlie Rose, Matt Lower, all these uh, these liberal anchors, 1318 01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,200 Speaker 1: they were all a year ago telling us how bad 1319 01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,280 Speaker 1: Mike Pence was on the women's issues, and now look 1320 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,120 Speaker 1: at them. Well, I think that's very different. I mean, 1321 01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:00,320 Speaker 1: I'd be very happy to debate the plot forms the 1322 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,160 Speaker 1: Democratic and Republican platform for women, or who actually Mike 1323 01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:06,160 Speaker 1: Pence is now famed policy of not eating alone with 1324 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 1: a woman actually hurts women professionally because it hurts their 1325 01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:12,479 Speaker 1: chances at having a mentor and a close relationship with 1326 01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,680 Speaker 1: a boss or a man in power frankly who can 1327 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,720 Speaker 1: help you advance. Uh. So I'm not a fan of that, 1328 01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,519 Speaker 1: but certainly you know, right now people would say, well, 1329 01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,599 Speaker 1: Mike Pence makes better decisions than Louis c k. Yeah, 1330 01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:26,840 Speaker 1: and you could say, well, your Democrats believe in a 1331 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:28,760 Speaker 1: woman's right to choose, unless you happen to be in 1332 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:33,360 Speaker 1: their office at the moment. I'm sure we'll get to 1333 01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,599 Speaker 1: the part as we continue to go through the slush fund. 1334 01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:39,160 Speaker 1: And we saw today, Uh the first lawmaker, a Republican 1335 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,280 Speaker 1: from Texas is the first person that we know now 1336 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:45,160 Speaker 1: settled a sex harass and claimed with taxpayer funded money. Uh, 1337 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 1: Blake Fahrenhold. I believe it is his name from Texas. Uh. 1338 01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,560 Speaker 1: We'll be getting more details of that. I wouldn't be 1339 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,479 Speaker 1: surprised if we saw a manner to who claims to 1340 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:58,000 Speaker 1: be pro life having done something not so pro life, 1341 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,000 Speaker 1: or we talked with Jessica Guitar law. Um, I wanted 1342 01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,800 Speaker 1: to debate Kate Steinley with you, but what the what 1343 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,120 Speaker 1: the hell is debate? There's nothing to debate. I mean nothing, really. 1344 01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:09,360 Speaker 1: I was on Sean Show last night, and I don't 1345 01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,040 Speaker 1: think we've nodded at each other this much since I 1346 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 1: met him three years ago. Uh, except when we got 1347 01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:16,920 Speaker 1: to whether all of them are going to all the 1348 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,280 Speaker 1: sanctuary cities are going to get defunded, which I don't 1349 01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:23,320 Speaker 1: think is what's going to happen. Um. But I drew 1350 01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,960 Speaker 1: his attention, and I'll offer to you as well. I 1351 01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,920 Speaker 1: think that what happened in Virginia with Ralph northm is 1352 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,880 Speaker 1: instructive on this issue and how Democrats may change because 1353 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,920 Speaker 1: Ralph Northam came out against sanctuary cities towards the end 1354 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,719 Speaker 1: of the race, and there was outcry from immigrant groups 1355 01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,760 Speaker 1: and he stuck to it and clearly understood that immigration 1356 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,480 Speaker 1: and illegal immigration was a hot button issue for all Americans, 1357 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,559 Speaker 1: which is, you know, part of why Donald Trump wont um. 1358 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,080 Speaker 1: So I do think there's an opportunity for Democrats to 1359 01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:54,320 Speaker 1: be more reasonable about sanctuary cities and at least say 1360 01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:55,920 Speaker 1: something like we're not going to get rid of all 1361 01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,519 Speaker 1: of them. In New York and Chicago. San Francisco, they're 1362 01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:02,479 Speaker 1: never going to get rid of that title. I don't 1363 01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:03,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what the term is to get rid 1364 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 1: of that. But it's more than that. In San Francisco, 1365 01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,080 Speaker 1: this is a city that's been run by super liberal 1366 01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,280 Speaker 1: Democrats and it's one of the most beautiful cities in 1367 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 1: America that we're slowly losing. I've been talking to tech 1368 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,960 Speaker 1: billionaires who are moving out because the crime is out 1369 01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:21,040 Speaker 1: of control. It's one big homeless camp in their neighborhood, 1370 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,880 Speaker 1: and it's it's going to become the next Detroit. We're 1371 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,160 Speaker 1: gonna lose this city to crime and homelessness and all 1372 01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,600 Speaker 1: sorts of stuff if something doesn't happen. And you see this, 1373 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:33,440 Speaker 1: this case is symbolic of the whole thing. Yeah, the homelessness, 1374 01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:35,880 Speaker 1: I think is a really interesting point. My uh, my 1375 01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,960 Speaker 1: parents work in Portland, Oregon, also a huge liberal bastion, 1376 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 1: and the homelessness is out of control. New York is 1377 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:43,760 Speaker 1: way worse than it was. I think it's more at 1378 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:49,240 Speaker 1: the bladio problem than a liberal problem. Um. But yeah, 1379 01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:51,720 Speaker 1: I think that these cities have changed in a lot 1380 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,840 Speaker 1: of ways for the worst. So I will not turn 1381 01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,080 Speaker 1: on Democrat role. I think that Democrats do a lot 1382 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,800 Speaker 1: of good for a lot of people, especially middle and 1383 01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,320 Speaker 1: lower income people. Well that could be, but in a 1384 01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,200 Speaker 1: case of being mayors, they've made a mess of things. 1385 01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 1: Whether it's Washington, Baltimore, Detroit, or now San Francisco, they're 1386 01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,960 Speaker 1: losing these cities to all kinds of crime and homelessness. 1387 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,439 Speaker 1: You know, And if you're in San Francisco because of 1388 01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,679 Speaker 1: these Democrats with their codes, if you touch one brick 1389 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,680 Speaker 1: on your house, you get fined. But if you put 1390 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:20,599 Speaker 1: up forty homeless tense in the middle of the street, 1391 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:26,360 Speaker 1: nobody touches you. You're okay there, Yeah, it's not good. 1392 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure it looked more. Have looked more in depth 1393 01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:32,080 Speaker 1: into this then I have. But there's no doubt that 1394 01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:33,640 Speaker 1: there are a lot of liberal policies that are going 1395 01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:38,200 Speaker 1: to be reevaluated, um, heading into election years when we're 1396 01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,719 Speaker 1: looking for a wave right. Um. But in first and foremost, 1397 01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,080 Speaker 1: it's a tragedy what happened to Kate Steinley, and uh, 1398 01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,800 Speaker 1: that man should have never been in this country, certainly 1399 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,960 Speaker 1: in the first place. But having accepted that, the eleven 1400 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,960 Speaker 1: million who are here are not going to be booted 1401 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,680 Speaker 1: out the second, third, fourth, spifth and six times. He 1402 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,680 Speaker 1: certainly shouldn't have been here. Okay, maybe I'm generalizing, but 1403 01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,479 Speaker 1: there's something to this. If you take democratic mayors of 1404 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:04,439 Speaker 1: Baltimore or of Chicago, Detroit, Washington, all these cities and 1405 01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,559 Speaker 1: you look what happens. Maybe Democrats shouldn't be mayors, Maybe 1406 01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,720 Speaker 1: they should stick to Congress or something. M hmmm. No, 1407 01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't go that far right. I think there are 1408 01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,200 Speaker 1: a lot of policies, as I said, for working families, 1409 01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,519 Speaker 1: they get pushed through, and we have higher minimum wages 1410 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,680 Speaker 1: in Democrat run cities, which I think is good for 1411 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,200 Speaker 1: Americans and good for the economy. I think a lot 1412 01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:25,360 Speaker 1: of it is core issues surrounding gang violence. That's what 1413 01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,040 Speaker 1: the problem in Baltimore. It's a problem in Chicago, San 1414 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,920 Speaker 1: Francisco not as much um and we need to look 1415 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:34,960 Speaker 1: into that. We have a gun problem on a number 1416 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,080 Speaker 1: of levels, on a mass shooting level and then also 1417 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:43,360 Speaker 1: in gang violence problem level, So that needs to be examined. 1418 01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:47,240 Speaker 1: But I certainly wouldn't boot all the liberal mayors. Well, 1419 01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:49,640 Speaker 1: even though I didn't want to Blasia to win reelections. 1420 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,479 Speaker 1: We had that problem in New York. It was out 1421 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,160 Speaker 1: of control of New York is out of control as 1422 01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,840 Speaker 1: it could be anywhere, and Rudy Giulianti just fixed the 1423 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,880 Speaker 1: whole problem. Why wouldn't every city called Rudy Giulianti and 1424 01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,040 Speaker 1: pay him, he's consultant, come to our city, show us 1425 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,000 Speaker 1: how to get do what you did in New York here. 1426 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:08,080 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't everybody do that? Well, they have called Ray Calle, 1427 01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,519 Speaker 1: Ray Kelly, and Bill Bratton. I mean, the police chiefs 1428 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,360 Speaker 1: are really cool to this, and they do work as 1429 01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:17,640 Speaker 1: consultants as well, and they're part of these super organizations 1430 01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 1: where they all work together and each of them actually 1431 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,599 Speaker 1: are advocates for sanctuary city policies. Them in the goal, 1432 01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,479 Speaker 1: and Rudy Giuliani was himself. The goal of the policy 1433 01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,559 Speaker 1: is to create an environment in which people who are 1434 01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:31,120 Speaker 1: illegal can come out of the shadows to talk about 1435 01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,040 Speaker 1: what's going on in their neighborhoods with law enforcement. If 1436 01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,000 Speaker 1: they think they're going to get deported, they're not going 1437 01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,640 Speaker 1: to report a crime, and they're more likely to live 1438 01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:41,800 Speaker 1: in neighborhoods where bad things are happening. Um So, when 1439 01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,439 Speaker 1: you actually look at the organizations of mayors and of 1440 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:48,120 Speaker 1: police chiefs. They're all largely supportive of sanctuarying. But both 1441 01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,599 Speaker 1: those I think it's interesting. Those police chiefs are friends 1442 01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:51,920 Speaker 1: of mine and they've told me when they get to 1443 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:53,920 Speaker 1: the city, they don't listen everything they tell them, they 1444 01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:55,920 Speaker 1: don't do what they tell them to do, and it 1445 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,920 Speaker 1: just never gets done. So yeah, bureaucracy is a problem 1446 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:01,880 Speaker 1: right on any level. I wish you had more time, 1447 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,200 Speaker 1: but it's always great talking to you and Jessica tar 1448 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,559 Speaker 1: Off where people should follow you on Twitter and uh 1449 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:11,559 Speaker 1: where else Fox and vote Democrats and then I'll be happy. Yeah, 1450 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:15,760 Speaker 1: that'll make everything up, just fix everything. It's always great 1451 01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,000 Speaker 1: talking to you. Thanks for being with us weekend. Thanks 1452 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,080 Speaker 1: for having me. Take care. It's it's Mark Simmone here 1453 01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,320 Speaker 1: for Sean Hannity. We'll take some calls in a minute. 1454 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,679 Speaker 1: One eight hundred nine f one. Sean is the number 1455 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,559 Speaker 1: nine one Sewan. Hey, follow me on Twitter, Mark Simone 1456 01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:33,800 Speaker 1: and y at Twitter or Instagram or Facebook, and don't 1457 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:39,000 Speaker 1: forget Handity. Tonight nine o'clock on the Fox News Channel. Hey, 1458 01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,920 Speaker 1: welcome back. It's the Sean Hannity Show. Mark Simone here 1459 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,680 Speaker 1: for Sean. You watched Seinfeld anymore? You know body so 1460 01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,080 Speaker 1: Ebery episode five thousand times? You still watch it? Go 1461 01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,840 Speaker 1: watch it now. It's hysterical at how outdated it is. 1462 01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,440 Speaker 1: It's like watching I Love Lucy. It's like so primitive. 1463 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,439 Speaker 1: There's one episode where they talk about who you should 1464 01:19:56,439 --> 01:20:00,960 Speaker 1: put on speed dial? Remember that episode? Like he said, 1465 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,519 Speaker 1: why aren't I? But that's not bad? You know? Well 1466 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,760 Speaker 1: the Joel Rifkin one is a little out day. Yeah no, 1467 01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,439 Speaker 1: But if you're twenty years old, you don't know what 1468 01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,719 Speaker 1: that is. What is speed dollar? You can't even imagine 1469 01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,679 Speaker 1: what such a thing is. That's because you don't dial anymore. 1470 01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,160 Speaker 1: You too busy texting me. Everything is instant dial. You 1471 01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:17,880 Speaker 1: just touch a button. So you gotta explain to a 1472 01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:19,840 Speaker 1: kid what speed dial is. They won't know what you're 1473 01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:23,280 Speaker 1: talking about. You gotta explain what a pencil is. Yeah, 1474 01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:27,719 Speaker 1: and also Kramer keeps coming over to tell him everything 1475 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:29,960 Speaker 1: and everything. Why why wouldn't he just text him? There 1476 01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:32,439 Speaker 1: was no text back then. Your kids today, you don't 1477 01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:33,759 Speaker 1: know what it was like to live in that world. 1478 01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,720 Speaker 1: No text, a flip phone, you'd open it up. But 1479 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:40,559 Speaker 1: do you remember the episode where George is caught sleeping 1480 01:20:40,680 --> 01:20:44,160 Speaker 1: with the cleaning woman in his office on the desk. Remember, 1481 01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:46,760 Speaker 1: the guy calls him in and he says, it's come 1482 01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:48,880 Speaker 1: to our attention that you had sex with the cleaning 1483 01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,360 Speaker 1: woman on the desk. And there's a long pause and 1484 01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:57,720 Speaker 1: George says, is that not right? Is that? Because if 1485 01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,760 Speaker 1: it is, nobody told me so. Is that frowned upon? 1486 01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,040 Speaker 1: Remember that episode and he's this, you're fired. So I 1487 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,639 Speaker 1: guess that's that happened to Matt Lauer where the guy said, 1488 01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:07,960 Speaker 1: this come to our attention that you had a button 1489 01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:09,680 Speaker 1: under your desk, you locked the door, and then you 1490 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,120 Speaker 1: sexually assaulted a woman and she passed out and you 1491 01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,080 Speaker 1: had your assistant drager to the nurse. And I guess 1492 01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:20,920 Speaker 1: he said, yeah, was that not right? Is that round? So? 1493 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. George Costanza. They ought to take that 1494 01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,519 Speaker 1: episode up and run it again. He would be in 1495 01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 1: jail now if that happened. Anyway, when we come back, 1496 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:34,679 Speaker 1: Larry Cudlow economist, brilliant economist, neck, welcome back. It's Mark 1497 01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:36,960 Speaker 1: Simone here for seawn. He's just second a day off 1498 01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 1: and he'll be back on Monday. H Larry Cudlow, Uh, 1499 01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,880 Speaker 1: brilliant when it comes to tax policy, the economy. You 1500 01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,040 Speaker 1: want to understand all this stuff, that's nobody better. Of 1501 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,639 Speaker 1: course you know him from CNBC. And if you're really 1502 01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,280 Speaker 1: interested in tax policy, the Reagan tax cuts, all that 1503 01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:56,200 Speaker 1: sort of stuff, get his book JFK and the Reagan Revolution. 1504 01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,320 Speaker 1: This is the history of the whole thing. It's the 1505 01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,439 Speaker 1: best book on the subject. A. FK and the Reagan 1506 01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:05,840 Speaker 1: Revolution by Larry Cudlow. Larry, how you doing, Thank you, Mark, 1507 01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:10,840 Speaker 1: You're wonderful. Appreciate it very much. I uh I hear 1508 01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:15,880 Speaker 1: they have the votes now in the Senate. Is that true? Yes? Um, 1509 01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,040 Speaker 1: they have fifty and they may get to fifty one, 1510 01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:22,960 Speaker 1: and the odds hotly. This thing was dead in the 1511 01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:28,000 Speaker 1: water twenty four hours ago. The whole thing unraveled, okay 1512 01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:34,160 Speaker 1: because Bob Corker and Jeff Flake. But all of a sudden, 1513 01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:40,759 Speaker 1: after the Republican Senate Conference meeting today, it came back together. 1514 01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:46,120 Speaker 1: And it actually is better than it was twenty four 1515 01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,000 Speaker 1: hours ago when we thought we had it locked up. 1516 01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:53,400 Speaker 1: It's actually coming out better. What's better A couple of things, Um, 1517 01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:57,240 Speaker 1: Probably the biggest thing is small businesses so called sub 1518 01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:02,200 Speaker 1: chapter has passed through Yeah, um, self employed you know, 1519 01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:09,280 Speaker 1: holy owned companies. Um, they are getting now a discount 1520 01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:14,480 Speaker 1: off their taxable income. That is because of Ron Johnson, 1521 01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:17,559 Speaker 1: Senator Ron Johnson, a good friend of mine. Been talking 1522 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:21,840 Speaker 1: to him about this all week. He fought and he won, 1523 01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,880 Speaker 1: and so all of a sudden, the pass throughs, which 1524 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:31,040 Speaker 1: we're kind of forgotten and we're kind of shafted now, Uh, 1525 01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:34,280 Speaker 1: they're actual tax rate, their effective rate's going to come 1526 01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:38,720 Speaker 1: in something like So that's really good. That's it. That's 1527 01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:43,759 Speaker 1: a new added and the repeal of the individual mandate stays. 1528 01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,439 Speaker 1: That's okay. And Susan Collins signed off on that, and 1529 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:52,920 Speaker 1: she's voting yes on the bill. So that's good. And sorry, 1530 01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:56,479 Speaker 1: we would like to have corporate tax down like it 1531 01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,240 Speaker 1: is in most countries. Where where are we in that 1532 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:05,360 Speaker 1: we're twenty the average of the you know, is about 1533 01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,360 Speaker 1: But the Senate was going to fiddle with this. This 1534 01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:13,160 Speaker 1: was the awful thing last night is they were going 1535 01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,799 Speaker 1: to have this crazy idea where you'd cut the corporate 1536 01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,360 Speaker 1: tax for a couple of years and then you'd start 1537 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,640 Speaker 1: raising it after that. And uh, I talked to a 1538 01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:25,320 Speaker 1: few centers about that, and I said you know, I 1539 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,720 Speaker 1: can't support that, and my supply side group can't support that. 1540 01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:33,320 Speaker 1: But that's all gone. That's all gone. So it's and 1541 01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,599 Speaker 1: the only glitch and the Senate is they they want 1542 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:41,439 Speaker 1: to start at nineteen. They should start at the houses. 1543 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:46,000 Speaker 1: And I think will come out of the conference. Hey, 1544 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:48,920 Speaker 1: your book is JFK and the Reagan Revolution. If you 1545 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,560 Speaker 1: read this book, and it will explain it to you 1546 01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,680 Speaker 1: that whenever you do this with the tax cuts, you 1547 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:57,559 Speaker 1: increase revenue. It's happened every single time. It will always 1548 01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,840 Speaker 1: happen every time. Read the book. It will explain it all. 1549 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,000 Speaker 1: But why is it every one of these organizations, CBO 1550 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,439 Speaker 1: and everything. Whenever they do the projections, they always show 1551 01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:11,320 Speaker 1: it lowering revenue. Yeah, because they don't understand growth mark. 1552 01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:17,280 Speaker 1: They don't understand incentives. They don't understand if you keep 1553 01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,640 Speaker 1: more of what you earn or more of what you 1554 01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,800 Speaker 1: invest that this has you coming back to do more 1555 01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:28,639 Speaker 1: and more. They don't understand that trillions of dollars will 1556 01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:31,519 Speaker 1: be unlocked and invested in the US. I mean, they 1557 01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:36,880 Speaker 1: don't understand it. The Joint Tax Committee says one less 1558 01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:41,720 Speaker 1: than one tenth of one cent increase in growth all right, 1559 01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:46,919 Speaker 1: let me repeat that, less than one tenth of one percent. 1560 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's unbelievable. And as you say, history proves otherwise. 1561 01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. The economy is going to grow. This thing 1562 01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:58,960 Speaker 1: goes through on the business side alone, the economy is 1563 01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,439 Speaker 1: going to grow three to four percent for as far 1564 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:05,280 Speaker 1: as the eye can see. And you're right, revenues will 1565 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,360 Speaker 1: come in stronger and stronger, and it will wind up 1566 01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:12,240 Speaker 1: paying for itself, just as it did under JFK and Reagan. 1567 01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,559 Speaker 1: That's what's gonna happen. But these dopes, you know, Mark, 1568 01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:18,840 Speaker 1: we got to drain the swamp. These these models are 1569 01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:23,240 Speaker 1: part of the swamp. The drain. Uh. Let's say there 1570 01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,240 Speaker 1: was a tax pun where it did lower revenue. Let's 1571 01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,880 Speaker 1: say the revenue came down a little, So what great 1572 01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,800 Speaker 1: cut the size of government? Do it that way? Right? 1573 01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,920 Speaker 1: What's wrong with that? Let's keep right, Let's let the 1574 01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:37,120 Speaker 1: let the folks keep the money, exactly right. Let the 1575 01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,960 Speaker 1: folks keep the money. It's not the government's money, it's 1576 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,960 Speaker 1: your money. It's my money. Ye, our efforts work for 1577 01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,240 Speaker 1: I mean, if you had to decide how to spend 1578 01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,800 Speaker 1: your money, that's probably better than Chuck Schumer deciding how 1579 01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:52,599 Speaker 1: to spend your money. Thank you, that's right. I mean, 1580 01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:57,639 Speaker 1: what what you had last night? Bob Corker. I wanted 1581 01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:02,439 Speaker 1: this crazy trigger where if the revenues came in short, 1582 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:09,840 Speaker 1: we would be raising taxes, so that if the economy 1583 01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:14,519 Speaker 1: is softer, they're gonna raise taxes and make it worse. Yeah. 1584 01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never seen anything so stupid. Fortunately that's 1585 01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:20,439 Speaker 1: all been stripped out. Hey, if the revenue was less, great, 1586 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,000 Speaker 1: But Bob Corker, one of the worst alligators in the swamp, 1587 01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,720 Speaker 1: doesn't want that money because he likes to spend it 1588 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:31,000 Speaker 1: on his waist and bloat and favors that he buysan 1589 01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:35,320 Speaker 1: though whatever. But no, he has no record. He has 1590 01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:39,120 Speaker 1: no record of fiscal conservatism. Mark, let me just say 1591 01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:42,360 Speaker 1: that he has no record for that. This is a 1592 01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:47,479 Speaker 1: lot of bony bologny self seeking publicity, you know. I mean, 1593 01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:52,200 Speaker 1: he's going to be out of the Senate. He's he's retiring. 1594 01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,760 Speaker 1: He would have lost his seat anyway, So this is 1595 01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,640 Speaker 1: a very strange story. I know the guys. It's a 1596 01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,160 Speaker 1: nice guy, but I don't know what he's up to. Well, 1597 01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:01,760 Speaker 1: we know what he's up to. You know, when you're 1598 01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:03,519 Speaker 1: in the Congress. When you're in the Senate, you want 1599 01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:06,479 Speaker 1: to goll out favors and spend money in the right places. 1600 01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,760 Speaker 1: And it's not your money. So if the bridge is 1601 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:10,920 Speaker 1: eight hundred millions, so what if it ends up being 1602 01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:19,960 Speaker 1: four billion. Here's the money that's he want. Corker, you know, 1603 01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:23,040 Speaker 1: he's ahead of the Foreign Relations Committee. He likes to 1604 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,640 Speaker 1: put more money into the State Department. Yeah, and the 1605 01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,760 Speaker 1: State Department generally runs its own farm policy, doesn't listen 1606 01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:33,559 Speaker 1: to the president. So that's Corker's Uh, that's Corker's court. 1607 01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,960 Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes I hear people complain about President Trump. 1608 01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:38,840 Speaker 1: They said, you know, there's two thousand jobs he hasn't 1609 01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,800 Speaker 1: filled yet in the government. Good, don't fill them. I know, 1610 01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,200 Speaker 1: you're exactly right. And by the way, he'll he'll tell 1611 01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,280 Speaker 1: you that. I mean, that's part of the strategy. We 1612 01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:53,800 Speaker 1: don't need nine hundred assistant secretaries for Energy or Interior. 1613 01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,000 Speaker 1: We don't or state. We don't need that stuff. Okay, 1614 01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:04,599 Speaker 1: So spot on, reorganize the rollback regulations. Stop punishing success mark, 1615 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:08,040 Speaker 1: stop punishing investment. Hey, let me ask you an important 1616 01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,599 Speaker 1: question about the tax plan. Will we still be able 1617 01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,280 Speaker 1: to deduct local and state taxes. I know, it's uh, 1618 01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:17,160 Speaker 1: get rid of that and forces the states the lower 1619 01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:19,360 Speaker 1: the taxes. But in the meantime in New York, will 1620 01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:23,320 Speaker 1: we still be able to deduct that. You'll probably wind 1621 01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:31,200 Speaker 1: up getting a ten thousand dollar deduction from your property taxes. 1622 01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:36,320 Speaker 1: That's all. That's it. That's it. That's in the House bill, 1623 01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:38,760 Speaker 1: and it was in the Senate. It was put into 1624 01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:44,400 Speaker 1: the Senate bill today. And the problem with that story, 1625 01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, long run, we shouldn't allow that deduction. 1626 01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:53,080 Speaker 1: All it does is give left wing governors a chance 1627 01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:56,479 Speaker 1: to raise more taxes and spend more. But the problem 1628 01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:01,200 Speaker 1: the story is true tax reform. You're supposed to really 1629 01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:05,400 Speaker 1: slash the individual rate, you know, like Reagan brought him 1630 01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:10,800 Speaker 1: to fifteen this bill. First of all, the top rate 1631 01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:14,040 Speaker 1: is not going to move probably, and the middle rates 1632 01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,799 Speaker 1: are going to drop by three percentage points, which is nothing. 1633 01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,519 Speaker 1: So really a lot of folks are going to get hurt. 1634 01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:24,880 Speaker 1: I think unnecessarily this didn't have to happen. But it's 1635 01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:29,000 Speaker 1: all about these crazy scoring and the CBO and your 1636 01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:31,439 Speaker 1: friends at the Joint Tax. Maybe you really should talk 1637 01:30:31,520 --> 01:30:34,960 Speaker 1: to the market the joint tax. You should get get 1638 01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:38,000 Speaker 1: copies of your book JFK and the Reagan Revolution. Go 1639 01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:40,240 Speaker 1: over there and give one to each person, Say read 1640 01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:43,800 Speaker 1: this before you do anything. They won't let the door 1641 01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:48,240 Speaker 1: over there. I've been trying to end that since I 1642 01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:52,840 Speaker 1: worked for Raying thirty five years ago. You know, that's 1643 01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:54,599 Speaker 1: a very good question to ask you, because you did 1644 01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:57,760 Speaker 1: all this with Reagan thirty years ago. What's different now? 1645 01:30:57,880 --> 01:30:59,759 Speaker 1: Is it harder to do this now? Is it easier? 1646 01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:04,439 Speaker 1: Did you go through all these problems back then? We 1647 01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:07,240 Speaker 1: went through a lot of them, but we didn't have 1648 01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:13,280 Speaker 1: the political polarization. In other words, Reagan sold his tax 1649 01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:18,040 Speaker 1: cuts to a whole bunch of Democrats. The first tax cut, 1650 01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:23,560 Speaker 1: which was one he had something like sight democrats in 1651 01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:28,080 Speaker 1: the House and many Democrats in the Senate. And the 1652 01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:34,600 Speaker 1: second one in eight six was totally bipartisan. Um Richard Gephard, 1653 01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:40,400 Speaker 1: Bill Bradley. Even Danny Rostenkowski from Chicago, the head of 1654 01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:43,439 Speaker 1: the Ways and Means Committee, served a little time later 1655 01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:47,040 Speaker 1: in the Pokey he was a favorite of the six. Today, 1656 01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, Chuck Schumer, it's all partisan soaked. The rich 1657 01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:58,200 Speaker 1: hate the rich, hate Trump. Nobody wants to talk across 1658 01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:01,720 Speaker 1: the alt at saying, you know, that's a big obstacle 1659 01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,960 Speaker 1: when you want to do these gigantic reform bills. And 1660 01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:07,479 Speaker 1: I think, you know, that's too bad. I regret that. 1661 01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,240 Speaker 1: But also nowadays is it just extremely transactional. If you 1662 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,479 Speaker 1: need to get somebody's vote, it's not that you explain 1663 01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,040 Speaker 1: it to them. It's you go over there and say 1664 01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,200 Speaker 1: you need a bridge in your state, or how would 1665 01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,559 Speaker 1: you like to give out ten billion in defense spending. 1666 01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:23,720 Speaker 1: It's that kind of stuff, isn't it. Yeah, Well, listen, man, 1667 01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:26,280 Speaker 1: I we did it in any one. We had a 1668 01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:29,120 Speaker 1: few bridges to nowhere. We had a few judge ships. 1669 01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:33,559 Speaker 1: I don't deny it. But Mark, even that doesn't work 1670 01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:38,800 Speaker 1: anymore with Democrats. I mean they're like lock step behind U, 1671 01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:43,280 Speaker 1: behind Schumer and Pelosi. I mean there might be there 1672 01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,880 Speaker 1: might be a couple of Democratic senators, okay in the 1673 01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:50,600 Speaker 1: final bill, gal like Joe Manson in West Virginia or 1674 01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:55,480 Speaker 1: Heidi hide Camp but North Dakota, maybe Joe Donnalley of Indiana, 1675 01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:59,800 Speaker 1: maybe even Claire McCastle of Missouri. So you might get 1676 01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:02,840 Speaker 1: a up. But as I said, during the Reagan years, 1677 01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, we we we had tremendous Democratic support. So 1678 01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:11,519 Speaker 1: it's a different town. But listen, man, I mean the 1679 01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,519 Speaker 1: Democrats are slitting their own throat. You know, they're trying 1680 01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:18,000 Speaker 1: to block all these tax cuts. They're waging, you know war. 1681 01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:22,920 Speaker 1: It's all class warfare, it's all redistribution. It doesn't help them. 1682 01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:27,360 Speaker 1: I mean, Obama won for president, but they lost everything 1683 01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:30,360 Speaker 1: else during his years with this class warfare stuff. They 1684 01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,360 Speaker 1: lost the Senate, they lost the House, they lost state houses, 1685 01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:36,599 Speaker 1: they lost you know, local legislatures. It doesn't help them. 1686 01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:38,960 Speaker 1: That's a good point. They're on a Kama Kaze mission. 1687 01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:40,800 Speaker 1: Very good point. That's why they're going to have to 1688 01:33:40,880 --> 01:33:43,080 Speaker 1: change at some point. I had several out of time. 1689 01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:46,160 Speaker 1: But everybody, get the book JFK and the Reagan Revolution. 1690 01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,120 Speaker 1: It's Larry Cudlo's but the best book ever written on 1691 01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:51,080 Speaker 1: these tax cuts. And uh, you know it's Christmas coming up. 1692 01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,320 Speaker 1: Everybody buy one and send it to everybody at the 1693 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:56,840 Speaker 1: CBO and that Tax Commission and tell him he just 1694 01:33:57,080 --> 01:34:01,280 Speaker 1: read this before he or anything. Read the fuck JFK 1695 01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:03,639 Speaker 1: and the Reagan Revolution. Of course, you can see Larry 1696 01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:07,400 Speaker 1: on CNBC. Larry Cudload, thanks for being with us. Mark 1697 01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:10,160 Speaker 1: Simone You're wonderful. Thank you, so you soon take care. 1698 01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:12,200 Speaker 1: Uh oh, we'll take some calls in a minute. One 1699 01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:16,200 Speaker 1: eight nine one Sean is the number. One nine f 1700 01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:19,439 Speaker 1: one Sean. He'll be back on Monday, and don't forget 1701 01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,839 Speaker 1: watch Hannity tonight at nine on a Fox News Channel's 1702 01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:28,400 Speaker 1: Mark Simone here for Sean Hannity. Hey, welcome back. It's 1703 01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:32,160 Speaker 1: Mark Simone here for Sean Hannity. We got lots of 1704 01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:34,360 Speaker 1: people calling it. Let's take a caller to Let's go 1705 01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:37,040 Speaker 1: to uh who's been hanging on the longest. Let's go 1706 01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:40,920 Speaker 1: to Mary in Indianapolis. Hey, Mary, Hi, Mark, how you 1707 01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:45,040 Speaker 1: doing good? Okay, I just want to ask you, said 1708 01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:48,519 Speaker 1: Hillary earlier. They only interviewed her once. They don't tape it, 1709 01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:52,560 Speaker 1: so everything is okay. We don't worry about it. When 1710 01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:56,280 Speaker 1: the Republicans do this, they crucify him. Why aren't these 1711 01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:00,519 Speaker 1: people held accountable for doing something illegal? To be again, lift, 1712 01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,519 Speaker 1: I hear this all the time on talk radio um 1713 01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,560 Speaker 1: where it's a cricket investigation or they did this or that. 1714 01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:09,080 Speaker 1: People lost their jobs, and then the next day we 1715 01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:11,719 Speaker 1: just go on and everything's okay again. I don't understand 1716 01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,479 Speaker 1: why they're not held accountable. Well, it's a very good point, 1717 01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:17,519 Speaker 1: as I pointed out what probably happened with General Flynn. 1718 01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,080 Speaker 1: What they do in an FBI interrogation, They call you in, 1719 01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:23,400 Speaker 1: they interrogate you for hours, they would make a trans transcription, 1720 01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:25,599 Speaker 1: they transcribe the whole thing. Then a couple of weeks 1721 01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:27,479 Speaker 1: later they come back and they do it again, and 1722 01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:29,160 Speaker 1: sometimes they do it a third time, and then they 1723 01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:32,200 Speaker 1: compare the transcripts to see if there's any discrepancy in 1724 01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:35,280 Speaker 1: your story, and that's where they get you for lying 1725 01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:37,880 Speaker 1: or not telling the truth. But in the case of Hillary, 1726 01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:41,280 Speaker 1: and I've never heard of this happening, No transcript of 1727 01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:46,320 Speaker 1: the interrogation, no recording of it, nothing. I mean, that's 1728 01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:51,480 Speaker 1: really really really rigging things. And uh, it's just absolutely 1729 01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:53,479 Speaker 1: unheard of. That way, they can't possibly get you on 1730 01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:55,920 Speaker 1: a line to the FBI because there's no record of 1731 01:35:55,960 --> 01:35:59,280 Speaker 1: the interrogation. So I think what happens here. You know, 1732 01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:01,360 Speaker 1: it's like when they out it with the sexual harassment 1733 01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:04,920 Speaker 1: going after people. It was originally some people trying to 1734 01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:07,760 Speaker 1: take out some conservative broadcasters, but they opened up a 1735 01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:10,760 Speaker 1: can of worms and next thing you know, hundreds of 1736 01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:12,960 Speaker 1: liberals are being caught up in this, from Matt Loward 1737 01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,280 Speaker 1: to Charlie Rose, to Al Frankin to all sorts of 1738 01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,200 Speaker 1: people think the same thing happens here with Muller and Company. 1739 01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:20,559 Speaker 1: And I think they've opened up a can of worms 1740 01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:22,880 Speaker 1: here before this is over. You know what, I bet 1741 01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,479 Speaker 1: you there is a special prosecutor looking into Uranium one 1742 01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,800 Speaker 1: and Hillary and the emails and all that. And in 1743 01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:31,639 Speaker 1: the end they're not gonna find anything on Donald Trump, 1744 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:34,760 Speaker 1: and this is gonna find anything. This is all I 1745 01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:36,840 Speaker 1: got with Flynn is maybe the Logan Act, the law 1746 01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:41,160 Speaker 1: that's never enforced, especially before the end of next year. 1747 01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:44,960 Speaker 1: There's another special prosecutor in Hillary ends up Matt Loward 1748 01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:48,000 Speaker 1: and all of this. Well, we're out of time. Sean 1749 01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:50,640 Speaker 1: will be back on Monday. Great being with you is 1750 01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:52,519 Speaker 1: always normally you can hear me on w o R 1751 01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,320 Speaker 1: in New York. He can go to my website Mark 1752 01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:57,519 Speaker 1: Simone dot com or follow me on Twitter Mark Simone 1753 01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,639 Speaker 1: n Y Twitter. Make sure you watch Hannity o'clock tonight 1754 01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:03,840 Speaker 1: now the number one show in cable news, every night 1755 01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:07,200 Speaker 1: nine o'clock on the Fox News Channel. Have a great weekend,